Making the Marine Corps Gen 3 Plate Carrier slightly less garbage
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- Best way to fix this thing is go to CIF and exchange it for a Gen II.
This was uploaded for educational purposes. If you have any additional information on the subject or how to improve upon the equipment, please feel free to share.
Equipment displayed:
Shaw Concepts;
ARC Placard V3
Quad Insert
Rear Document Stacker
Molle Placard Adapter
Cordage Cummerbund Adapter
ARC Admin
MOS Tactical;
Skeleton Cummerbund w/ Tubes
Spiritus Systems;
32oz Nalgene pouch
Crye Precision;
556/762/MBITR Pouch
3 Band Skeletal Cummerbund AVS
QASM buckle/Clips Adapter were from Haley Strategic.
Shoulder pads are HSGI.
Below are links to other information and resources on the matter, please check them out:
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Arbor Arms USMC Gen III Plate Carrier Compatibility
• USMC GEN 3 Plate Carri...
Shaw Concepts: Improving the USMC Gen II Plate Carrier
• Improving the Marine C...
Shaw Concepts
/ @shawconceptsllc.8797
Spiritus Systems
/ spiritussystems
MOS Tactical
/ @mostactical
Musics totally copyright, I know that. Don’t sue me please. Thanks.
Great tutorial! Hadn't thought to reroute the shoulder straps like that. Thanks!
you can tuck that front part of molle instead of using a velcro adapter
Can confirm
This does work, however the Velcro on the carrier is garbage and doesn’t last long. After awhile I had to get an adapter because my placard couldn’t stay attached
@@masonrachels2439 I do the same but have a chest rig backpack molled to my back with their own cummerbun straps, that keeps it retained well. I think thats what has saved my velcro quite a bit too, lot less wiggling around
@@masonrachels2439 best military grade equipment
What that Velcro thing called on the back flak
I did the same thing but went to the Px and got the green sleeing pad and cut it to the shape of the soft armor to provide some comfort
Good ol CBD
Glad to see Marines still modding gear! Different Years, different Gear, same problems.
Good stuff man!
I did pretty much the same with my issued carrier in 2017. To make it even slimmer I used 550 to keep all the material taught in. Had to use a cleaning rod to tighten it down.
You guys don't know how good you have it, here in Canada we are still issued a frag vest and tactical vest that are of a late 90's/early 2000's design philosophy and we make it work
And you wonder why retention is asshole.
The pay sucks, the postings sucks, the gear sucks and there’s about a 1/3rd chance you’ll be forced to suck a senior officers dick if you’re a woman in the force.
Lots of suck and no deployments
Y’all got weed
Y'all got a viable military. 😭
@@OrangeSolaire Yes, is your Prime Minister?
I HIGHLY recommend the First-Spear shoulder pads. They’re a little more expensive but they’re SO much more comfortable all around.
I did almost the exact same thing to mine!
The little cut to the corners for easier adjustment of the straps is brilliant, I never did that.
The unfortunate bottom line is that until the separate front panel is replaced in whatever they choose for Gen IV, this thing will always be a step behind. Everyone should be rocking anything other than this.
As always, the more general purpose the 'solution', the more compromise is involved.
Nice video. Amazing how over-complicated contractors design things.
The Marine Corps designed it (specs) and contractors build it to those specs.
I'm showing this to anyone who thinks the VPA Gen III carrier is "basically a Strandhogg"
Goddamn this thing sucks. Thanks for making this video.
An aftermarket mod that I love, which turns any carrier into basically a Crye AVS, is the Eagle Ergo Harness. I use it on my Gen 2 USMC carrier along with an AXL Equinox and it's a godsend.
I have experience using vest with Kydex or Krydex quick release systems. Trust me when I say go with one. I was doing the Skirmish Paintball Invasion of Normandy event with 4000 players. I came out the mock up boat, went prone and so many things went wrong. Both quick releases on my cummerbund came undone.
Honestly as a Marine that is pretty cool, I'll probably would do that
Do it unless your Units SOP does not allow you.
@@ejomatic and if your units SOP doesn't allow you to do it then do it anyway because you're a maverick and hard charger.
@@YungBeezer this is the way
Really cool how similar this is to the Army's MSV carrier. I'll be using some of these tips
"Good idea, bad execution" comes to mind. Having the hard and soft armor is a good idea...but having essentially TWO plate carriers in one? Wut?...
We had the MTV when I was in. Thing was HUGE! lol
Those cummerbunds look fantastic...going to have to check those out...
“Good idea, bad execution” is the motto for the Democrat Party on almost everything lol
@@media6969 I see what you're going for, but nah...they aren't good ideas. They just FEEL good. The left is the side of feelings...ignore what you see, never mind what you know, how's it FEEL?
Its crazy how lighter and more modular plate carrier systems cost roughly the same amount as this entire plate carrier system lol. This whole system costs roughly $240, a Crye JPC 2.0 costs literally the same amount.
Big draw for this PC was the quick release tubes and buckles, and the added concealable carrier.
@@underdevelopedchild42 conceable carrier is going to be useless for most in the army use, it wont be used 99.9% of the time that's the dumbest shit I have ever seen 😂
Noted👍
@@spookythecat3055 as silly as it may be, it's only going to be seen as an added bonus to an acquisition department looking at prospective plate carriers.
Ive seen brand new issued gen III listed for over $600
What a funny looking vest. I'm glad we have a way simpler and useful design in the FDF. Good tutorial🤟
A bit more complicated than the 1941 pack system I started with in the summer of '65 at Parris Island. Later the Korean War flak jackets in Vietnam. OooRah old Corps Get some
Looks good! For trimming those corners and really any cutting of nylon webbing you can use a torch to heat up a butter knife and it will cut and seal at the same time. Just don’t use your barracks furniture as your cutting board!
Equipment displayed:
Shaw Concepts;
ARC Placard V3
Quad Insert
Rear Document Stacker
Molle Placard Adapter
Cordage Cummerbund Adapter
ARC Admin
MOS Tactical;
Skeleton Cummerbund w/ Tubes
Spiritus Systems;
32oz Nalgene pouch
Crye Precision;
556/762/MBITR Pouch
3 Band Skeletal Cummerbund AVS
QASM buckle/Clips Adapter were from Haley Strategic.
Shoulder pads are HSGI.
What placard is that to fit 4 mags? Are there actual pouches in there?
Gen 2 is so much better. I just switched out the cummerbund with the quick detach assembly, and real mag pouches.
Be glad you ain’t running around with the interceptors
Give him one! Keep ‘em coming.
Can we get a vid on how to make the high cut ECH better? Or like tips and tricks of the trade
Ill definitely keep this in mind. In the meantime, check out @buckskin_gunfighter on instagram. He’s got some guides on improving the Full cut and High cut ECH. 🤙🏽
@@localskinwalker Good looks on that insta recommendation. And dope vid, you beat Shaw to the punch :D
The song brought back memories of LCPL Beezer pre-gaming in his camp foster barracks room before getting progressively more shitfaced in American Village.
If you could move the male end of the first spear tube to the side of the front mag shingle you could tighten slim the front plate bag a little (see arbor arms combat wombat).
I'm really glad that you put your American flag on slightly crooked
Well done, Marine!
Great video very informative and thanks for sharing!
Immediate Sub.
Respect for taking the time 🙏
Perfect timing after the Senate race...
Wasnt expecting to hear “Yeah Right” by Joji as background music lol
I miss my Gen 2, I'm in the army now and the RFI issue PC with the fastex buckles under the cumberbund is just NOT IT. How could the army pick the absolute WORST solution, the chicken vest is not that bad tbh, nice when you're doing vehicle stuff (I have a Brad)
The spall vest is great for crew members, not so much for everyone else. Who makes you x4 mag pouch?
your pog is showing brother
I’ve used a number a plater carriers in the marines, and have worn a number of carriers outside the marines.
Overcomplicated. Thats the issue with every fucking carrier the marine corps issues.
And you don’t realize this till you get out, and use extremely simple and durable plate carriers that are also half the price.
Most plate carriers outside the marines that cost above $200 are significantly better than everything ive ever been issued, which shouldn’t be the case.
It's like the convo went like this
Marines: looks good but can you add more cordura?
First Spear: we could but why?
Marines: more please
I was issued IBA, so I kinda laugh at the "bulk" issue. But yeah I have to agree. The Army has/had the same issue. The hilarious thing? That carrier is $1100 on eBay right now. I'm over here in civi world with a $100 dollar slick carrier, that's IR coated, with a ferro style cummerbund.
@@fathead8933 I own a woodland IBA that was given to me by an airforce dude lol.
The guy had one in perfect condition, and gave it to me for free. It's crazy how much they are worth.
Rn I'm rocking the MEPC. I love the thing, it's a little more expensive, but it's just right for what I need it for etc.
@@spaceisalie5451 I was talking about the new carrier but yeah the IBA isn't cheap either.
I've got a Warrior DCS covert with an Eagle SFLCS H harness. There's nothing like being balanced, and able to smoothly transition from mounted to dismounted by just putting on or taking off the harness. 2 buckles to clip and I'm ready to step off
I wish the army got cool plate carriers like the marines do
I did not expect Joji music being played lol
Never let em know your next move
Where did the quad mag pouch come from
Edit: I’ve done some research and I think it’s from Shaw concepts
I still have the Gen 2 plate carrier. I had no idea that the Gen 3 had that weird inner "low-profile" carrier, wtf is the point of that
Pretty sure it was meant for vehicle operators to wear in conjunction with the harness and front panel.
I was rocking an I guess you can call it a gen 1 Eagle plate carrier in Afghanistan back in 2010/11. Supply was only issuing them to our vehicle crewmen and us scouts got the horrible MTV but I still managed to snag one for myself. That thing didn't even have a cummerbund, just a 2" strap with clips on each side that sucked but I took the cummerbund from my MTV and retrofitted it onto the carrier. How times have changed.
That’s what we did in 3/8. Our first time using the plate carrier was in Afghanistan. Thank god we didn’t use the MTV. The “Gen 1 “ with the mtv cummerbund worked very well.
@@Lifechanging99999 the rest of the scouts in the platoon had mtvs and they were all mad at me cause I had the carrier. I said it was their own fault they didn't go get one for themselves since supply was just handing them out and didn't ask if I was a scout or crewman. My gunny chewed my ass for having one and said he better not catch me wearing it. Lucky for me we were never around hq plt outside the FOB and once inside we dropped our gear and kept them locked in the vehicles.
@@thatonedoood were you with the LAR unit that was south of Gereshk? It’s odd for me to hear the term scout from a Marine. I usually think Army lol, since I’m not familiar with how LAR operated.
@@Lifechanging99999 yessir. 3rd LAR south of marjah/sangin/lashkar gah
@@thatonedoood my platoon stayed at an LAR compound in Jan of 2011 before we pushed into Gereshk. Only for a day.
where did you get the mag pouch from?
AXL Shoulder Pads are LEGIT and take a lot of the weight off your traps.
dude just wear the inner w the elastic cumberbunds. If your gunner says some bs about quickly being able to mount side sappis tell him to take a look at the inside of the cumberbund.
Please post more
bros actually wearing marpat frog with acu pants, nice vid tho
Now my brain can’t unsee it. They’re Marpat frogs but the color grading does drastically desaturate the pants.
Where did u get that 4 mag chest rig in the front
very first line had me dying. "how to somewhat unfuck.." kill
Got me there too, I was like thats not what the title originally said
Are the 556 pmags easy to pull out from the quad insert?
Beating shaw to the vid!! Nice just saw this
what kind of units get those plate carriers or do regular infantry marines get issued those?
Standard issue
This is why I started making my own gear, its very difficult to unfuck what came fucked up from birth.
Thanks for the vid and thank you mighty youtube algorithm for showing it to me
Are you able to let's say
>run a chest right with just front plate
>hook up a front H harness with backplate
Great video bro thanks
Instant sub, thank you for the glorified knowledge.
Nice Joji background music
can't wait to try this is COD MW2
A low-profile carrier, for all those covert missions your average marine goes on...
Lmao put the two halves together, throw some Amazon mag pouches on it and use it for airsoft/paintball when you're stateside.
That placard what brand is it????
Is it really that bad compared to the gen2? I only had to make a few mods on those to make them more comfortable
Can tell me what backpack is that?
This setup only allows you to carry 4 mags + 1 in the rifle?? I'm not a combat expert but isn't that capacity a bit low??
Yes, that would be substandard but the focus of this isn’t the loadout, it’s carrier improvement. I’ll humor you though, I use this general purpose setup in conjunction with a gunbelt. 4 in the placard, 2 on the belt, 1 in the gun.
Where did you get the mag pouch?
Where’d you get the placard?
A hot take I know, but I'd rather take a gen 2 carrier with an aftermarket cummerbund, probably has more to do with familiarity
This is the way
I'm army and the question I have is wouldn't some units have an SOP preventing this?
Generally, yes. Unit SOPs dictate some dos and don’t as far as kit setups can go. Then again, sometimes its better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.
Can y’all help me I’m looking for cummerbunds that don’t get in the way of my gun belt something on more of the elastic side
What kind of molle buckles are those ?
Good shit man
You can actually tuck that front flap in instead of putting on a Molled Velcro panel
Where the hell were you when the gave us these new ones
Are those the gen iii esapis?
So you tucked in the shoulder padding to add additional shoulder pads...ok.
If only they taught this in Infantry School!
I'm at imc right now
@@garrettmerrill9013 you're lucky to be apart of it, it's better training than ITB from what I heard.
@@garrettmerrill9013 good
Does make it look cleaner
For me tucking in those shoulder straps made little knots that hurt my collar bone like shit with a ruck or assault pack on
What kinda msg pouch is that?
Perfect
I didn’t know you were allowed to just slap on aftermarket parts on your issued equipment.
what will happen if i have only hard armor wothout soft?
How did you get this
Still better than the MTV 😂
More videos when??
is there a narrower shoulder pad? the hsgi hits my neck when i raise my arms
There’s a quite a few different options out there. I hear lots of good things from Qore Performance Ice Vents. www.qoreperformance.com/collections/shoulder-pads/products/icevents-aero
Haha drinking a nos so am I right now nice choice man
yeah right yeah right
The fact you roll your sleeves in instead of out, infuriates me to no end
Pog
Yo! Who sells the 4 mag pouch?
Shaw Concepts
I feel ancient. None of the gear they have now was around even a mere two years ago.
Army: y’all are still using those??
Still better than IBA's
Personally the thing i hated most about the gen 3 taht drove me crazy is how the FREAKING HIGH AND LOW THE CUMMERBUND IS!! Srrsly you cant leane without this biting into your hips or armpits!
wait is there a plate carrier in your plate carrier
What placard is that?
Shaw Concepts ARC Placard V3 w/ the quad insert
High gigle factor
typical Marine Corps. give you "upgraded" and "improved" gear that you just have to modify to make it work.
like here you go here's the PMAGs you wanted. oh by the way they won't fit in your mag pouches so here's a neat little trick involving pencils and hot water to make the mags we gave you fit into the pouches we gave you that don't work with the mags we gave you.
Mag pouch link?
shaw-concepts.com/collections/all-products/products/arc-placard-v3
What brand watch is that?
Seiko
When the hell did we get new PCs?!
Follow SSD for updates.
Oir 🤘🏻
good video i subcrobed
I like at least6 to 8 mags on pouch on me.