Leopard 2A8 and Challenger 3,which protection is batter?

Leopard 2A8 and Challenger 3 have been upgraded with a trophy active protection system during production, which is more effective than installing it after tank completion. However, the question remains about the effectiveness of this system and the strength of the tanks.

[@gordonlowe7157]

The most vital part of a modern tank is its crew, the challanger 2 which was hit by a mine and a drone saved its crew . How many t90 crews survived a hit?

[@Leptospirosi]

Engine has not been upgraded with an MTU unit. it is still a 1200hp with minor improvements

[@goodsoup6085]

Challenger 3 is 66 tonne, maybe you're talking about when it gets full tes loadout with all the extra stuff added, thats not the standard tank.
Which isnt far from the base chally 2 and has 300 extra hp and more torque so should be better than the chally 2s mobility

[@allesiofondressi2602]

Tanks really turned the tide in the recent conflicts......oh wait.

[@aguy607]

Certain areas of Ukraine leopards have been highly crucial. Chally 2s spearheaded Kursk and are now holding it. So yes
Anyone who says tanks are useless is a total muppet who watches a few propaganda videos and some new drone warfare. Drones will be countered, and most western tanks with decent crews can survive hits from them. Aps is becoming more common and u will have friendly drone squadron cover. Russians are just terrible at what they do same with Israelis

[@andreww1225]

I heard they are not making a leopard 2a8

[@robandcheryls]

Leopard by far

[@aguy607]

Not protection wise. It has a lot more power in its engine tho. Firepower’s more event now but leopard probs has some very minute edges cos the Germans will keep the best for themselves.