I like the Calepari vowel diagram. It seems to be more compatible with Danish than the unmodified IPA vowels. Danish has its own phonetic alphabet ("Dania") which fits the language, but it's my impression that many IPA vowels need diacritic to be correct. (and some times the difference is really noticeable, especially with the a sounds and the e) This diagram seems to more easily capture Danish vowels.
Yeah, the Canepari system has its advantages, especially for languages with many different vowel qualities (like Danish), and for comparing dialects, that often only differ slightly in their vowel qualities. Unfortunately, Canepari's system does not seem to be used much in the scientific world...
Nice video! The ɶ sound (number 12) does seem to be really rare, but it occurs in Austrian German, in words such as 'Seil' and 'weil'. A person who speaks with a 'well-educated' Viennese accent (I like to call it 'high Austrian') is unlikely to produce this sound, but people with a strong accent (and often living on the countryside) will produce this. Sources: IPA handbook and living in Austria :)
Very good summary and you pronounce them all! Helped my a lot (we try to create a new language and are looking for vowels as a first step). I'm glad to have found those tables (especially the last one lists interestingly many vowels) Thanks!
While making a script for s conlang, I tourd with a system which acted as though “vowel” was a single letter which possessed slight non-diacritical changes to describe the manners/places of articulation progression.
I did not add that sound, because it is very difficult to tell apart from its neighboring sounds. A non-rounded LMBC vowel would probably be perceived as an [ǝ]. A rounded LMBC vowel sounds almost the same as an [ɔ]. I do not know of a language that has one specific LMBC phoneme.
Lower Mid Back Central (in CanIPA) can be found in Romanian. It is designated by the letter "ă" (in stressed position, unstressed "ă" may sound more centralized, like /ə/) . You can listen to an example word "ăsta" on forvo: forvo.com/word/ăsta/#ro or cărți: forvo.com/word/cărți The rounded version of this sound could be found in French 'bonnet' in neutral accent (according to Canepari's criteria), but it can be pronounced differently in mediatic Parisian and other accents, so I'm personally not sure if I would be able to actually recognize it and not confuse it with other sound on the recording. The one on forvo sounds about right. You can also listen to the name of the Igbo language in Igbo, it should have the same sound: forvo.com/word/igbo/
I just found your channel! But it seems that you haven't uploaded anything since the last year. :/ You make very interesting content, which I was looking for, for a really long time. I hope you'll come back :^)
Thank you for such a nice video..I have a question .. that is how can I know whether I'm pronouncing the IPA vowels correctly?? And how do I know that how much do I need to open or close , spread or round my lips a particular vowel sound??
Asif Anowar i beleive there is a tool called “praat” that can listen to your voice and tell you what vowel you’re making... i’m not sure how hard it is to use though (i’ve never used it myself). Might be worth a try
@@nanalang7665 I checked into your tip. Turns out Praat is an audio transcription tool where the user can easily write in where each sound starts and ends. It actually doesn't do the transcription / sound analysis for you. Instead, you could check out this "IPA Chart with Sounds" page. www.internationalphoneticalphabet.org/ipa-sounds/ipa-chart-with-sounds/
Ha, Chinese and Korean have that central vowel 17. I don't know if it's a common vowel, but not many Non-Chinese or Non-Korean speaker could get it right.
Bird Aqua True, it is quite rare, but also appears in some Slavic languages like Russian or Polish. Some languages use a vowel between 16 and 17, like Turkish.
Yeah, the Korean 으 is often realized somewhere between 16 and 17. It's sometimes transcribed with the ipa character ɯ̽ to show that it's between the two, but to my ears it definitely feels higher than ɯ̽.
First, because Canepari's system is not very compatible with computers (there are many characters that are not present in any Unicode sets); Second, there are enough diacritics in the official IPA to describe vowels closely enough, so Canepari is basically reinventing the wheel with all his weird symbols. Plus, IPA is actually just a system to write pronounciation independent from orthography of a given language (if it has one).
With vowels, it is the whole tongue that moves. This usually happens unconsciously. Here is a link to the Encyclopedia Britannica article that shows different tongue positions. You can pronounce these words and try to feel the position of your tongue while doing this: "Phonetics - Suprasegmentals | Britannica" www.britannica.com/science/phonetics/Suprasegmentals
Theoretically, the vowel in "bird" is [ɜ], so it is less rounded and more central than [œ], so for [œ] the lips are rounded, for [ɜ] they are not. If you ask me, the difference is not a big one, especially in fast speech. ;-)
@@ConlangKrishna Actually, (according to known British linguist and phonetician Geoff Lindsey) there is an /əː/ sound in words like bird, nurse etc. in modern British English, not /ɜ/. Plus, some broad Australian and New Zealand accents (and even few British accents) actually do pronounce /œː/ or /øː/ in place of /ɜː/ or /əː/.
I like the Calepari vowel diagram. It seems to be more compatible with Danish than the unmodified IPA vowels.
Danish has its own phonetic alphabet ("Dania") which fits the language, but it's my impression that many IPA vowels need diacritic to be correct. (and some times the difference is really noticeable, especially with the a sounds and the e)
This diagram seems to more easily capture Danish vowels.
Yeah, the Canepari system has its advantages, especially for languages with many different vowel qualities (like Danish), and for comparing dialects, that often only differ slightly in their vowel qualities. Unfortunately, Canepari's system does not seem to be used much in the scientific world...
Nice video! The ɶ sound (number 12) does seem to be really rare, but it occurs in Austrian German, in words such as 'Seil' and 'weil'. A person who speaks with a 'well-educated' Viennese accent (I like to call it 'high Austrian') is unlikely to produce this sound, but people with a strong accent (and often living on the countryside) will produce this. Sources: IPA handbook and living in Austria :)
Your lessons are really inspiring
Thank you 👍
OMG!!! Thank you sooooo much for explaining vowel production!!! I've always had a hard time differentiating and producing these sounds!!!!
These videos are great, thank you so much! I feel like you will get me through the ear training part of my Speech Therapy training :)
I am glad I can be of help 😊
Very good summary and you pronounce them all! Helped my a lot (we try to create a new language and are looking for vowels as a first step). I'm glad to have found those tables (especially the last one lists interestingly many vowels)
Thanks!
Wow. I subscribed, Thank you very very much!! This videos is really good and I like that you pronounced each sound, it really helped me!
Finally I found who explain in the way that I understand. Thank
While making a script for s conlang, I tourd with a system which acted as though “vowel” was a single letter which possessed slight non-diacritical changes to describe the manners/places of articulation progression.
Congratulations to Krishna for your excellent and admirable work!
What an awesome job! Congrats!
Thank you. I'm an aspiring language learner but I have some difficulty distinguishing between sounds. This opened up my eyes a little 👍
Good video, thank you! Help me a lot.I really hope more examples of each vowel.As a foreigner I can hardly recognize the different between them.
Where can İ find out the Lower-Mid with Back-Central vowel sound?
Note: See on 8:04
I did not add that sound, because it is very difficult to tell apart from its neighboring sounds. A non-rounded LMBC vowel would probably be perceived as an [ǝ]. A rounded LMBC vowel sounds almost the same as an [ɔ].
I do not know of a language that has one specific LMBC phoneme.
OK! thank u.
Lower Mid Back Central (in CanIPA) can be found in Romanian. It is designated by the letter "ă" (in stressed position, unstressed "ă" may sound more centralized, like /ə/) . You can listen to an example word "ăsta" on forvo: forvo.com/word/ăsta/#ro
or cărți: forvo.com/word/cărți
The rounded version of this sound could be found in French 'bonnet' in neutral accent (according to Canepari's criteria), but it can be pronounced differently in mediatic Parisian and other accents, so I'm personally not sure if I would be able to actually recognize it and not confuse it with other sound on the recording. The one on forvo sounds about right.
You can also listen to the name of the Igbo language in Igbo, it should have the same sound:
forvo.com/word/igbo/
I just found your channel! But it seems that you haven't uploaded anything since the last year. :/ You make very interesting content, which I was looking for, for a really long time. I hope you'll come back :^)
7:23 some speakers of swedish use that instead of the one above which I personally tend to use. I don't find it weird though
Very interesting video! Bravo
Thank you for such a nice video..I have a question .. that is how can I know whether I'm pronouncing the IPA vowels correctly?? And how do I know that how much do I need to open or close , spread or round my lips a particular vowel sound??
Asif Anowar i beleive there is a tool called “praat” that can listen to your voice and tell you what vowel you’re making... i’m not sure how hard it is to use though (i’ve never used it myself). Might be worth a try
@@nanalang7665 I checked into your tip. Turns out Praat is an audio transcription tool where the user can easily write in where each sound starts and ends. It actually doesn't do the transcription / sound analysis for you. Instead, you could check out this "IPA Chart with Sounds" page. www.internationalphoneticalphabet.org/ipa-sounds/ipa-chart-with-sounds/
Playing with phonetics sounds messy but it's interesting as hell! I study phonetics at the university and totally love it
And Eurovision can be a great source of examples of rare languages!
great video
Are the vowels from the Capenari diagram mapped against English words in RP or GA in any book or website?
I am pretty sure, Canepari has compared different dialects of English. You can find lots of free material in his webpage:
www.canipa.net
@@ConlangKrishna Thx
Ha, Chinese and Korean have that central vowel 17. I don't know if it's a common vowel, but not many Non-Chinese or Non-Korean speaker could get it right.
Bird Aqua True, it is quite rare, but also appears in some Slavic languages like Russian or Polish. Some languages use a vowel between 16 and 17, like Turkish.
Yeah, the Korean 으 is often realized somewhere between 16 and 17. It's sometimes transcribed with the ipa character ɯ̽ to show that it's between the two, but to my ears it definitely feels higher than ɯ̽.
The Romanian lettter â has a similar pronunciaton.
@@altf4218 and î
Thank you very helpful
WHY IPA dont use the last chart. it makes a whole lot more sense than that skewed mess they use.
First, because Canepari's system is not very compatible with computers (there are many characters that are not present in any Unicode sets);
Second, there are enough diacritics in the official IPA to describe vowels closely enough, so Canepari is basically reinventing the wheel with all his weird symbols.
Plus, IPA is actually just a system to write pronounciation independent from orthography of a given language (if it has one).
we hope more video, you can update some.
I don't really get how the tongue positioning works. Is it referring to the tip? the whole thing? what?
With vowels, it is the whole tongue that moves. This usually happens unconsciously. Here is a link to the Encyclopedia Britannica article that shows different tongue positions. You can pronounce these words and try to feel the position of your tongue while doing this:
"Phonetics - Suprasegmentals | Britannica" www.britannica.com/science/phonetics/Suprasegmentals
Fantastic sir
like colours on the colour wheel !
That's a great comparison! ❤
Wonder if these vowels are pronounced differently in concrete languages, say English or French?
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Ótimo!!!!!
The oe (joined together) to me sounds exactly the same as the vowel in bird, hurt
Theoretically, the vowel in "bird" is [ɜ], so it is less rounded and more central than [œ], so for [œ] the lips are rounded, for [ɜ] they are not.
If you ask me, the difference is not a big one, especially in fast speech. ;-)
@@ConlangKrishna Actually, (according to known British linguist and phonetician Geoff Lindsey) there is an /əː/ sound in words like bird, nurse etc. in modern British English, not /ɜ/.
Plus, some broad Australian and New Zealand accents (and even few British accents) actually do pronounce /œː/ or /øː/ in place of /ɜː/ or /əː/.
wonderful
3:01 sounds of the vowels
And 12 occurs often in Danish. Like in "smør" - /ˈsmɶɐ̯/ , butter.
2:50
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ɶ is actually not so weird, it occurs in Swedish words like öra en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_front_rounded_vowel
Tom Kot It is weird. It's only in 3 languages
@Tom Kot I guess, he meant that [ɶ] is quite rare as a phoneme.
In case of Swedish (and Norwegian) [ɶ] is an allophone of /œ/ before /r/.
the pronunciation of [e] is wrong, i think.
@Danilo Croce Italian e is [e̞], german e is [e]
@@dragosb08 Actually, German /e/ is a bit hiɡher, than a cardinal /e/, so it's more like [e̝] (i.e. it's closer to /i/).
Nasal sounds?
Omg it all sounds the same 🤯
True, many vowels are very close to eachother. And no language has them all. Practice, practice, practice. 😉
/æ/ is very hard. (My native language is portuguese Brazil)
It's hard for me and English is my native language. My Northern Irish accent uses the a vowel Instead
Hướng dẫn chơi đi
algo
Krishnasya bhAsha
/ˈdænɪəl ˈdʒəʊnz wəz ə ˈbrɪtɪʃ fəʊnɪˈtɪʃn. aɪ ˈlaɪk ɪm./