@@nicholaschhay5892 Spoilers, and conjecture follow: So, around six million years into this Lostbelt's past, humanity still existed, and the man who would be known as Camazotz ruled as their king. Things were fine until ORT came knocking, ravaging the world and sending the deino species underground. All of mankind, all contained within Camazotz's kingdom, willingly volunteered to sacrifice themselves to their king's spirit origin, and he carries all one billion of their lives within his body. Effectively immortal, he fought the emergent ORT to a standstill and ripped out its heart, weakening it to the point where it had to fall into a deep slumber. He seeks to become the last Master of humanity because of his love for them, and a desire to never repeat the actions he took six million years prior.
@@Khn_2102 Spoilers The short ansnwer is that everithing that happened including The extincion of this lostbelt humanity he became insane and ironically a beast of humanity specifically he went and decided to become The last master of Chaldea to save the world by killing the protagonist. This is his line of thought
Camazotz and his fight against ORT are literally the definition of "The indifferent cruelty of the universe when the indomitable human spirit walks in" and we love him for that. Our King.
If he becomes summonable he will have a high rank "weak constitution" skill, surely his back is not in good shape after carrying the whole lostbelt in every way posible 🦇
Camazotz is quite a big G, but have you seen Tepeu? Or Kukulkan? Or Tlaloc? Or Eresh? Or Nitocris? This is a heavy LB for sure but we have many, many, many great characters carrying it.
In case you want to feel sad again, according to the tracklist for the upcoming OST release, the name of this track is "Saigo no Yuusha" -- The Last Hero
With the exception of Goetia and Fou, all beast eventually became our servants (yes, I'm counting Tiamat too, even though she's in the wrong game). However, as in previous LB Kings that became our servants, with the exception of LB 5, I'm afraid that Cama-bat will be stuck in NPC jail.
We got a Camazotz voice with the most recent trailer released before the valentines teaser. If he has a voice actor with actual lines, it’s much more likely he’ll be a servant in the future. I’d LOVE a Camazotz servant. Maybe they do 2 ssr banners at once, one for Kuku and one for Camazotz. Honestly sounds like a good idea. Most people didn’t roll tez so they have sq saved up.
how fast it went from "i can fix him" to "i'll spoil this man rotten then tell him you've done good job so pls go rest istg" i've never attached this much to a fgo's [villain] since kirsch, ophelia, and oberon
I am really surprised that alot of gods/goddess of the underworld in various parts of fgo helped,loved and cared a lot for humanity going for huge lengths to protect and help humanity Ereshkigal- has her own plan on protecting humanity,sealing tiamat in the underworld helped fujimaru without an exchange thereby breaking the rule of the underworld and disappeared by the repercussion Hades- one of the machine gods who fought for coexistence but when he was defeated he self destruct so that zeus wont get his authority and his domain so that the remaining godbreaker alliance can use it as a base Camazotz- because of the sacrifice of humanity in the lostbelt he gained immortality he fought ort for a very very long time and managed to get ort's heart and used it to power the sun of mictlan he loved his people going so far as to want to protect pan human history so that the incident of humanity in the lostbelt wont happen to the humanity of proper human history
Only in death does life find true meaning, all things that live must die so new things may grow, it teaches us, breaks and molds us. It makes sense that only a god of death can truly understand the very delicate balance and beauty of life.
I remember reading a comment about that. To summarize, it's most likely because the domains that they ruled over is the final place where all humans end up to. Thus, they are more susceptible to being influenced by humanity, to the point where they are biased towards them.
Imagine loving someone, doing everything for them, and then, one day, something just appears out of nowhere, and you can't do nothing about it, you're not strong enough, you're not smart enough, you're just... not enough, you give everything you have, but it isn't enough to protect the people you love so much, it will never be enough, and now, the people you loved, they are not there anymore... you're fighting a war for nothing now, and on top of that, someone tells you that the people you loved so much should've never existed on the first place, that your feelings, that your love, are just a mistake from an event way bigger than you You have literally nothing else left, only the love you once felt, and now someone is telling you even that was a mistake... and yet, that's the only thing that let's you keep fighting...
He's the Embodiment of His own People, When Tezcatlipoca only care about the Present, Kukulkan about the Future, He.., Never forget about the past, His people, He Always love them, Embracing them and Live for them, I really love this guy
Camazotz, the Unwilling Beast. May he finally rest, after doing all that was asked of him and more. He did his best Soulsborne player impression and then some! SPOILERS Being empowered by Humanity willingly sacrificing itself to Camazotz, to beat ORT, he became truly undying, locked in combat with ORT for thousands for years, fighting again and again. Since ORT regenerates, he had to learn EVERYTHING about ORT to finally get that chance to rip out the core and put ORT into hibernation, giving the chance for everything after to finally kill ORT. Bat God better not get stuck in NPC Jail.
Huh actually he doesn't able to inflict any wound in ORT because ORT's body is just so hard that even scratching him is impossible. He had neither the power nor ability to actually kill ORT or even damage it, so what happened was that he pulled an fgo stall tactic and gradually over the course of thousands or I think millions of years fought ORT until he finally managed to snatch it’s heart away by finding a gap in it's defenses and attacks, and the heart became the artifical sun, and after tezca & daybit arrival it turned into a god called Kukulkan.
Huge and long LB 7 Spoilers : Camazotz is Beast but not quite the Beast of Pan-Human History. To explain this, I would like to recap Camazotz's backstory: - In Pan-Human History , ORT crashed into the Earth and destroyed the dinosaur race. Then, the space moss-bearing meteorite, Malla, will come later and begin the process of creating the Aztec mythology we know. That's according to Nasuverse's Pan-Human History. - In this LostBelt, Malla comes first, make the dinosaurs evolve to Deinos and changes its name to Maia. At this point, the ORT is still on its way and will crash on the earth's surface same as Pan-Human History . Maia foresee this and sent the Deinos underground, Mictlan, to protect as many as possible. After that, ORT crashed and destroyed everything, Maia and the Deinos lived underground. However, both Maia and Deinos are photosynthesizer. Maia, who created an artificial sun for Mictlan, also ran out of energy and since then, the Deinos have fallen into a long hibernation. From here on, the history of mankind in this LostBelt continues to proceed as it does in Pan-Human History. Until the ORT wakes up. - Even without the concept of death, the impact damaged ORT's body causing it to go into hibernation to heal. After millions of years, ORT rises and destroys all of humanity. - Facing ORT , the humanity of this LostBelt decided to sacrifice everything for Camazotz, the king of humanity in this LostBelt , and bestow upon him immortality to defeat the ORT. - However, Camazotz only has immortality and no special ability to destroy ORT. However, for the sake of humanity, he had faced ORT for an unknown amount of time. It could be millions, billions, maybe millennia, he kept dying and resurrecting just to defeat ORT. Until a single chance appeared for him and he succeeded in grabbing ORT's heart and ripped it out. - Although ORT is not dead yet, without a heart, it has been in a long hibernation until Daybit arrives. - After defeating the ORT, Camazotz turns ORT's heart into Mictlan's new sun, causing Maia and Deinos to wake up. ---> After everything, Camazotz realized the humanity he loved was gone because they sacrificed everything for him, so he lost control and went mad. Later, he realized what he had done meant nothing because his Lostbelt would be purged . Unable to accept this, he decides to return to his true form and confront Chaldea with only one goal: to protect his world and protect the extinct human history he holds dear. That's why Camazotz is Beast of Oblivion . He is the Beast of a humanity that no longer exists
@@uwu1970 he and Morgan has the same story: hero fight the vain battle for what they love. In fact, that has been the theme of many people in this game.
I will not get over the fact that not only is he voiced by Nobuyuki Hiyama (aka voice of Gai Shishio) but his title in JP is 勇者王, or Yuusha-Oh, which translates to KING OF BRAVES.
@@MagicalGirlContractor yes and no. Yuusha is literally brave person. But western media, I believe because of DraQue, translates yuusha into hero for ease
Poor Camazotz... everything he's done, everything he endurered was for nothing. Now, imagine being Ritsuka, annihilating all hopes and dreams of the Lostbelt's inhabitants... we know how kind they are. Now, they have to destroy everything than Kamazotz accomplished after so much suffering. I hope Ritsuka can recover from all of this
I don't think what Camzotz did was all for nothing, sure he might have lost everything he valued but his sacrifice did allow Chaldea a chance in defeating ORT, without his sacrifce ORT would have been probably unbeatable. So Camazotz in the end might not have saved his humanity but he did indirectly helped Proper Human History to survive.
Beating ORT or not is not relevant in that situation. Imagine that you fought during millions of years an ultimate being who made all the ones you love sacrifice themselve to grant you a chance of beating it, you managed to do it after so much hardships, you tried to rebuild some semblence of a world then you realize that your world, your history, everything you fought for was not even valid cause it was a false reality... Camazotz holds on cause of the humans hopes in him, he wanted to honour them for all eternity then Chaldea came, proves that his reality isn't valid and needs to be fixed. Good or wrong isn't the problem here. For everything he lived, he wouldn't let them do this
@@Goldfinger1718 problem is that his people, the one that gave him the power to defeat ORT, the one that he FOUGHT for, is basically meant to be pruned. While you might argue that he's helping the PHH, it's at the cost of his own world.
Do not pity the brave... it just proved how pathetic you are. Rejoice in their accomplish; sang praise in their impossible deed of victory. Honor their mightiness in ballads and songs... make sure their immortal name is not forgotten.
A man who was beloved by his people, and who carried the undying loyalty of his subjects with him across six million years. A man who, fuelled by that love and an unyielding determination to protect his world and honour the ultimate sacrifice of his followers, fought the avatar of mankind's destruction for countless millennia - until finally accomplishing the impossible. A man who became a Beast out of desperate necessity, the inheritor of his world's will and the sole proof that his civilisation ever even existed, raging against the prospect of their annihilation. O wrathful king. O noble king. O, glorious, esteemed and peerless King of Braves. Your rage shall be quelled. Your torch shall be carried. Your name will be remembered.
(Huge Lostbelt 7 Spoilers) Keep in mind, this guy, the guy who ran around turning servants to alters is the same person who became literally unkillable, beat ORT, ripped it's heart out of it's body so it went into a 6 million year hibernation and used ORT's heart to power the sun of Mictlan. It might be hard to imagine but they are the same person
@@karlbenito9992 he was the king of humanity in that lostbelt. When ORT awoke and started to destroy the planet the humans decided to sacrifice themselves to camatotz to defeat ORT. With the power gained from the sacrifices of humanity Camatotz gained the ability of immortality, powerful enough to withstand ORT, but immortality was all he gained. He didn’t gain the power to kill ORT. With that power he fought ORT for God knows how long, each side not being able to kill the other. After how many years he found an opening in ORT’s defenses and snatched away its core, putting ORT back to sleep. He used that core as a new sun for the dinos, who were asleep while humanity sacrificed themselves.
@@karlbenito9992 long Story short, the previous Humanity of this lostbelt collectively gave up their lives to Camazotz to grant him Immortality, so that when he fought ORT, he will not die no matter what. This goes on for who knows how long until he was finally able to incapacitated ORT by ripping out its core.
@@karlbenito9992 Insert MGS Revengeance raiden punching armstrong meme for short context with ORT being Raiden and Camototz being Armstrong. Long context, they fought for so long Camototz was able to take ORTs heart because he couldnt die
I mean, it gotta be the easiest money grab of the century, just put him next to the word "Banner" and see how even the water dispensers at Lasagne's office put out money instead of liquid.
This hits harder when you discover that the Status as "Beast of Oblivion" Is something that he imposed over himself. His actual "Beast Title" Is "Beast of Salvation"
"My friend, we are going to continue the fight that you could not finish, but first we must give you the rest you deserve, don't worry, this will be fast" **puts all existing Latin American Servants in the game into his team for the fight**
Coming from me, a Kama-fanboy, I think this is saying a lot when I say this guy may very well be the coolest Beast-class character yet!! Everything about him, from his sick-ass design, his tragic backstory, his boss fight, and his role in the defeat of ORT, makes him to me the best thing to come from Lostbelt 7. Now let's hope he doesn't get the same treatment that so far both Solomon and Tiamat got (Arcade doesn't count!!!! At least according to the tiny voice in my head which I call Copium) and kept from being a playable servant in the main game. Please Lasengle, please please PLEASE don't keep him from us!!
Also I should add the fact that he was the one to make alter forms for some extremely beloved characters. For me in particular Nitocris and Kingprotea, two of among probably my top 10 fave characters. Thanks Camazotz!!!!!
He is surely gonna be a playable servant. There is nothing to stop him from becoming one. Tiamat is a Primordial Beast while Solomon literally erased himself from the Throne but Camaztoz has all the requirements to be a playable servant and a servant that Ritsuka could summon
@@PhiDuyanh I sure hope you're right. He certainly has the requirements, but there's still quite a stack of non-playable servants that for all intents and purposes should be playable, but aren't. Agravain, Joanna, Shibata Katsuie, just to name a few I'm still hoping for. The slight possibility of Camazots being NPC-only makes me quiver....
"Say my name! the brave of ca'an kingdom; the bat killed the spider; the king thrown away his crown .....the weak one who could not even save the world without the sacrifice of all of his citizens... i bet you challenge, the blood of Camazots! the true form of the terror of this Xibalba where ca'an citizen disposed their bodies!!!"
How Camazotz "defeated" ORT in LB7 (Spoilers) Before I proceed, here's a TL;DR: Camazotz is your average Soulsbourne player who is stuck with one boss for God knows how much time has passed. Mllions of years ago in this LB, humanity actually existed. And no, I'm not talking about the Deinos species, but the actual humans. Humanity in this LB had a really prosperous civilization and their societal and technological progress were high. Humanity was once a huge civilization under the Ka'an Kingdom, where Camazotz was their king (normal king, not Lostbelt King). This was prior to ORT's arrival in this LB. However, all of them fell into despair when ORT suddenly appeared and realization came that they can never defeat it, nor they can do anything about it. As a last and desperate attempt, ALL humanity in this LB decided to sacrifice themselves for Camazotz who was their king. This eventually led to Camazotz becoming the Beast of Oblivion. He has now acquired immortality and became even more powerful. Because the humanity he once ruled over (and loved) was long gone, his new objective was to fight ORT until it gets defeated. However, that was proven to be still incredibly difficult. Camazotz confronted ORT for over THOUSANDS of years, maybe even MILLIONS. He had to learn all of ORT's attacks and defenses while repeatedly DYING and REVIVING on the process. His ridiculous immortality was his saving grace. After what seems to be an eternity with fighting ORT, Camazotz eventually found a way to bypass ORT's defenses and ripped out its core or heart. This greatly weakened ORT and then went into a hibernation as if it switched to power-saving mode. This was when Camazotz finally "defeated" ORT. Camazotz then used ORT's core as the new sun for Mictlan. This eventually resumed life in this LB, especially the Deinos species. Meanwhile, ORT was in the 9th layer of Mictlan: Xibalba. It absorbed the LB Fantasy Tree and used it for sustenance. End of story. Now, I will clear some misconceptions: "Camazotz destroyed ORT" No he didn't. He simply found a way on how to bypass ORT's defenses and ripped out its core. He was never able to completely destroy this space monster. Not to mention this took him for over thousands/millions of years. Camazotz won by a technicality. "Camazotz fought a weaker ORT" No, he didn't. Camazotz fought LB ORT who was as powerful as its PHH counterpart. LB ORT became weak AFTER Camazotz ripped out its core. Also, the notion that "LB ORT is a subspecies" is only applicable to the one that Chaldea fought, since LB ORT is now a lot weaker than its PHH counterpart at this point in time.
Camazotz actually did fight a weaker ORT. ORT gets stronger by absorbing things it devours, and the surface was already scuttled by the time it arrived, so it had consumed nothing. That's why it's Lv 1.
You know what? What if... what if his tragic story is a projection to what will happen to us, the player maybe in the part 3? Imagine that after the part 2, we find out that all of our efforts and sacrifices didn't fix anything? Or even worse, what if after all that's happened, humanity betray us and brand us as the villain? I mean, I can see the same hero theme in FGO as in Fate/Stay Night and Zero. Singularity arc is a projection of an ideal hero. The pretty ideal that Shirou and Kiritsugu saw. Live in a pure way to safe everyone. The Lostbelt arc is the projection of a how being a hero really is. Even when you are a hero, you can't save everyone. Sacrifice will always have to be made. And following the hero theme life cycle that Emiya has been through, the next one is the cruelest realization that even if you save humanity, the nature of humanity will always fear and even betray you, their hero. Imagine that after fighting Beasts and divine beings, our last enemy is the corrupted humanity itself. And while human being human, something like the armgeddon happens or the real ORT come out to clean out the planet. And we will be given a choice, will we try to save them again or just let it be. Welp, my imagination and disgust toward humanity went wild lmao.
Maybe it's time to give Ritsuka a rest if PHH humanity came to hate the master just because for stupid reasons. I don't care if PHH ORT wakes up and nuke this planet to oblivion if Ritsuka did was all for nothing if humanity turned against him/her.
@@rogueascendant6611 it's not really about hate, it's about greed and fear. And let's be real, PHH sucks big time, humanity there is completely fucked and the only reason anyone is fighting for it is because Nasu has the idea of a new prosperous age after it, where humanity goes to space and "ascends". Even lostbelt introduced worlds that are far less fucked up like lb 3 and possibly lb 7 before ORT landed (hard to imagine humanity as a whole willingly sacrificing themselves for 1 goal in PHH). But yeah, Ritsuka as a character is a bonafide normie, he fights because that's what any other normie would do, fight for survival no matter what, no questions asked, no controversial opinions allowed. He isn't Shirou from Vow in the Snow who basically told humanity from his world to fuck off for the sake of his little sister, and he isn't Amakusa who has his own idea of what's best for us. He's more like Sieg from apocrypha, a bit higher as a character maybe because of his little breakdown when he learned that he's basically destroying worlds with his own hands.
A reminder that ORT still exist in PHH and will without a doubt, awaken one day. And it'll extremely unlikely for humanity to defeat ORT like we did in LB 7, so Camazotz isn't even wrong for wanting to take our spot as master. He might literally be the only one who can stop ORT in PHH.
IMO, any Beast, larva, lost or fully manifested, might handle that. There's an obvious implied compatibility issue. Camatoztz was stated as the strongest being in LB7 (over Archetype Earth there and Archetype ORT), with ORT inactive/dead. Even if wasn't a fully mature Beast. Rasputin stated U Olga recovered and can deal with that ORT and absorb it, and the only way she got hurt by Archetype ORT was because was caught off guard and protected the Border out of instinct and still was fine until Tezca's sneak attack. Kuku said beings like Kiara are banes to planets/celestial bodies in my room, aka an evil of humanity. Beasts are to be beaten...but by humanity or those worked as weapons by humanity, and if they manifest with a hefty price as a dark side of human's counterforce. Wich means conceptually only humanity and allies can overcome them. Type Moon is never about powerlevel direct scaling but about concepts and compatibility. Camatoztz couldn't be beaten by ORT but was by Nitocris and Chaldea for his own choice to remember and care, and such. Since we know humans' nature is so predatory that Arc once said would destroy the universe if evolved, Beasts are kind of a concentration of excesses and have the Power of Love on their side. It doesn't mean Camatoztz was stronger in a direct powerlevel contest with ORT, but like those beings are not a match toward an embodiment of concentrated humanity mean girl attitude.
@@thethessaliah Your opinion is wrong then. Beasts being meant to be brought down by humanity doesn't mean they can only be brought down by humanity. Concepts are not inviolable, seen mainly by every being without the concept of death, but they're far from the only example. There isn't any character called "Camatoztz". Also, Camazotz is not the strongest being in the Lostbelt, as he would be the Lostbelt King in that case and yet he's not, Kukulkan is. Rasputin's assessment was under the assumption of ORT still being dormant, and Kukulkan is only a piece of ORT, which is still significantly stronger than U-Olga even if she protected Shadow Border. Besides, this whole analysis just falls apart when U-Olga already lost to ORT outright. Even when fighting weakened ORT alongside Chaldea she died before ORT did. The Camazotz battle was not because of Camazotz being a beast, but simply due to the compatibility of their powers and his sheer persistence. Just how the battle with Chaldea ended in his defeat due to Nitocris having the right ability-set. Kukulkan's assessment on Kiara is not due to her Beast status, but again due to her unique traits. The Kiara summoned by Chaldea isn't even Beast-class. There isn't a statement from Arcueid saying humanity would destroy the universe. Maybe the planet as a reference to Notes, but not the universe.
@@shinji136 That's fine, you're free to have your opinion and I'm free to say mine. It's stated in LB7, Camazotz is the strongest being in that lostbelt along with inactive ORT (Archetype ORT is never on the other forms of ORT level, she barely can match the Servant version, meaning body is stronger than the Archetype), and being the Lostbelt King doesn't mean you're the strongest being (Skadi was weaker than Surtr), you know. But having authority over the place. Morgan was weaker than the calamities too. U Olga was ambushed and only took damage because she was protecting the Border. Rasputin flat out tells her to retreat so she can recover since if she was at full power and optimal, she could absorb ORT as planned when it goes to the South Pole. She refuses so in her weakened state because wants to protect Guda and Mash, without her heart (ORT had her heart), she helps to kill the body of ORT. She didn't use all her authorities or her NP. Kiara isn't the only evil of humanity that has such capabilities, humanity being predatory species in general and the evils are the worst of their excesses. Think closely why they are the ones who can confront them, and why humanity are the ones to overcome them specifically. Arc said humanity could destroy the Universe in the old Melty Blood, and Marisbury, a human, is recognized by an alien outside the Universe, as an enemy of the Universe. The destroyers of universe = humanity's potential if evolve from this present condition was also repeated in the Melty Blood manga crossover which is promoted as Singularity x part 2 Prologue that is being reprinted so might have foreshadowed Marisbury all along. Could destroy doesn't mean they will, but the whole theme of consumerism being something humanity wield and can mess up everything is even present in Mahoyo.
Camazotz fell. The bat god. The beast of mictlan was felled. Mash and the others reeled from the oblivion to see it. A man of aztec nature,with markings akin to the bat. Shimmering and flickering,Camazotz breathed a sigh of relief and looked at fujimaru. "Thank you...for ending this cruel suffering..." Fujimaru was stunned. But nodded. Closing his eyes...camazotz faded. And it was done. To be continued.
Advent Beast, Oblivion of Humanity CAMAZOTZ, KING OF BRAVES (note: Oblivion of Humanity is what i've seen as the translation for the stylized title in his battle intro)
Camazotz represents like how Dr. Strange defeated Dormammu the same way he did with ORT. You cannot win against it but you can always lose until there is a chance you can take. Reminds me of I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream novel
Anyone, can someone explain to me what exactly that He forgot so he become Beast of Oblivion? I kinda get why he get called Beast of Salvation, but I don't with Oblivion.
be forgotten by world and world where he belongs never exist in first place. fight until million decade again ort. finally, he became beast of oblivion
@@murdelidewantara900 oh, so he didn't forgot anything, it's him the one that have been forgotten? Okay, now that make more sense. Thanks for the info.
@@setsunakiritsune1297 He did forget it. Forget the sacrifices of his citizens. This is his PTSD. He may go suicide if he remember this. But this is NOT the reason he became the Beast. The reason is his achievement is forgotten by world. Just a coincidence.
@@setsunakiritsune1297 Nitocris as Anubis put a "forgetfulness is forbidden" law as master of that underworld (Camatotz gave her that underworld line previously).
@@StephanMok he might not even a have number. He's a beast of extinct humanity in that lostbelt. Not a beast of pan human history. He's accomplished what the beasts of pan human history could not: truly destroy humanity even if that's not what he wanted
@@Lainheart-84945 I think there's a basis for it. If one looks closely at the BEAST class symbol, the dot fills a different hole for each of their numbers. Going back to check Goetia, they do share the upper left pip.
@@zarakikenpachi6888 there is in fact an Archetype : Earth in that lostbelt. But because the inhabitants of that lostbelt are dinosaur thus the strongest lifeform from that lostbelt is a white Diplodocus named Xquic and she had a boyfriend named Tepeu who apparently has MEODP.
berserker and beast both are defined by madness. however, the difference is that a zerker's madness can be anything, but a beast's madness is always they have their own definition of mankind, and hellbent to remade the entirety mankind in said definition
@@Slayerofall21 actually nope, he isn't a grand, he was just pretending to be one altougth he claims to be a grand assassin candidate. There's still no confirmed grand zerker candidate
@@pablo9234 Really? Then why did his sprite popped up during U-Olga Marie's dream about fighting the 7 Grand Class Servants? He can't be a Grand Assassin because the CounterForce would simply reassign the seat to the First Hassan
@@Slayerofall21 Tez bugged the system and become a candidate of grand assassin. He has a line to First Hassan about it. Olga's dream has placeholders and shouldn't be taken seriously. Storywise Tez didn't proclaim himself as grand berserker.
@@Slayerofall21 to emphasize what they said of placeholders, just so you're not confused for whatever reason on who the other placeholders are: They're Castoria for G. Saber and Jiang Ziya for G. Rider
@@alreadyd1d It was a merciful kill, as he had suffered the loss of his people and knowing all those years he spent fighting ORT were for nothing, as his timeline became candidate for CounterForce Pruning Phoenomenon target practise He deserved to rest
![[FGO] - Kukulkan BGM](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mVz1KUjWvqs/mqdefault.jpg)
Knowing the context behind Camazotz's entire story, I'm so glad that this theme sounds so heroic.
Wait what’s the context?
Spoilers
In the lostbelt Camazotz was capable with his immortality to rip out ORT core and deactivate it after battling for possibly millenia
@@davidemaiocchi4264 Then why do we fight him right now?
@@nicholaschhay5892 Spoilers, and conjecture follow:
So, around six million years into this Lostbelt's past, humanity still existed, and the man who would be known as Camazotz ruled as their king. Things were fine until ORT came knocking, ravaging the world and sending the deino species underground. All of mankind, all contained within Camazotz's kingdom, willingly volunteered to sacrifice themselves to their king's spirit origin, and he carries all one billion of their lives within his body. Effectively immortal, he fought the emergent ORT to a standstill and ripped out its heart, weakening it to the point where it had to fall into a deep slumber. He seeks to become the last Master of humanity because of his love for them, and a desire to never repeat the actions he took six million years prior.
@@Khn_2102 Spoilers
The short ansnwer is that everithing that happened including The extincion of this lostbelt humanity he became insane and ironically a beast of humanity specifically he went and decided to become The last master of Chaldea to save the world by killing the protagonist. This is his line of thought
He ain’t the Lostbelt King, he’s just _THE_ king.
THE KING OF BRAVES
You can't be a BEAST without loving humanity even in some way..and Camazotz loved humanity so much
Camazotz and his fight against ORT are literally the definition of "The indifferent cruelty of the universe when the indomitable human spirit walks in" and we love him for that. Our King.
If he becomes summonable he will have a high rank "weak constitution" skill, surely his back is not in good shape after carrying the whole lostbelt in every way posible 🦇
Undying Will (Spine) EX: 3-stack unremovable guts (revive with full HP)
Camazotz is quite a big G, but have you seen Tepeu? Or Kukulkan? Or Tlaloc? Or Eresh? Or Nitocris? This is a heavy LB for sure but we have many, many, many great characters carrying it.
@@straypaper mid
@@straypaper Easily neg diffed lul
B@@SoccYThe made the Lostbelt. He carried.
In case you want to feel sad again, according to the tracklist for the upcoming OST release, the name of this track is "Saigo no Yuusha" -- The Last Hero
The last Braves.
The MVP of this entire Lostbelt. Dude is a fricking legend.
Him And Kukulkan
What a Chad he has been fighting all this time alone...
it's time to rest your fight is over CAMAZOTS
Man... i hope he is not stuck in npc jail. He is fucking cool af
Such a wasted opportunity if he stays NPC ngl.
They really wasted the best design from this losbelt on an npc
With the exception of Goetia and Fou, all beast eventually became our servants (yes, I'm counting Tiamat too, even though she's in the wrong game). However, as in previous LB Kings that became our servants, with the exception of LB 5, I'm afraid that Cama-bat will be stuck in NPC jail.
A male NPC with a cool design, he's definitely stuck there. Shinbei, Shinsaku, Black Wolf, Shibata... It goes on and on and on.
We got a Camazotz voice with the most recent trailer released before the valentines teaser.
If he has a voice actor with actual lines, it’s much more likely he’ll be a servant in the future.
I’d LOVE a Camazotz servant.
Maybe they do 2 ssr banners at once, one for Kuku and one for Camazotz. Honestly sounds like a good idea. Most people didn’t roll tez so they have sq saved up.
Absolute fucking gigachad and MVP of the Lostbelt.
how fast it went from "i can fix him" to "i'll spoil this man rotten then tell him you've done good job so pls go rest istg"
i've never attached this much to a fgo's [villain] since kirsch, ophelia, and oberon
He's QSH tier for me, both are my favourite lb characters. Developers should pay this guy some respect fr
He's not even a villain. He's our enemy, but to the people that sacrificed themselves for him? He's their hero.
@@alreadyd1d i never agree more than this tbh
@@kusanagi-no-tachi5303 yea. and him being the few gems we got in this lb makes more even thankful he exist
No like I'd die for him too
I am really surprised that alot of gods/goddess of the underworld in various parts of fgo helped,loved and cared a lot for humanity going for huge lengths to protect and help humanity
Ereshkigal- has her own plan on protecting humanity,sealing tiamat in the underworld helped fujimaru without an exchange thereby breaking the rule of the underworld and disappeared by the repercussion
Hades- one of the machine gods who fought for coexistence but when he was defeated he self destruct so that zeus wont get his authority and his domain so that the remaining godbreaker alliance can use it as a base
Camazotz- because of the sacrifice of humanity in the lostbelt he gained immortality he fought ort for a very very long time and managed to get ort's heart and used it to power the sun of mictlan he loved his people going so far as to want to protect pan human history so that the incident of humanity in the lostbelt wont happen to the humanity of proper human history
I always knew underworld gods are the most reliable.
They are the one to embrace human at the end of the day
Given that they deal with human souls every day, they are the most closest gods to humanity hence why they are so bias to them
Only in death does life find true meaning, all things that live must die so new things may grow, it teaches us, breaks and molds us. It makes sense that only a god of death can truly understand the very delicate balance and beauty of life.
I remember reading a comment about that. To summarize, it's most likely because the domains that they ruled over is the final place where all humans end up to. Thus, they are more susceptible to being influenced by humanity, to the point where they are biased towards them.
Imagine loving someone, doing everything for them, and then, one day, something just appears out of nowhere, and you can't do nothing about it, you're not strong enough, you're not smart enough, you're just... not enough, you give everything you have, but it isn't enough to protect the people you love so much, it will never be enough, and now, the people you loved, they are not there anymore... you're fighting a war for nothing now, and on top of that, someone tells you that the people you loved so much should've never existed on the first place, that your feelings, that your love, are just a mistake from an event way bigger than you
You have literally nothing else left, only the love you once felt, and now someone is telling you even that was a mistake... and yet, that's the only thing that let's you keep fighting...
He's the Embodiment of His own People, When Tezcatlipoca only care about the Present, Kukulkan about the Future,
He.., Never forget about the past, His people, He Always love them, Embracing them and Live for them,
I really love this guy
That turned him into a Beast
Basically, he's now a "fallen hero", don't you think?
@@pedroconde1038 an unwilling one that is
@@ginadihutama7109 Anakin was seduced by Sidious to be consumed by the Dark Side
@@ginadihutama7109 NOT ALWAYS is under their control become a "fallen hero", you know
Camazotz, the Unwilling Beast. May he finally rest, after doing all that was asked of him and more.
He did his best Soulsborne player impression and then some!
SPOILERS
Being empowered by Humanity willingly sacrificing itself to Camazotz, to beat ORT, he became truly undying, locked in combat with ORT for thousands for years, fighting again and again.
Since ORT regenerates, he had to learn EVERYTHING about ORT to finally get that chance to rip out the core and put ORT into hibernation, giving the chance for everything after to finally kill ORT.
Bat God better not get stuck in NPC Jail.
SPOILER
Him doing that pretty much resulted in Kuku so ... helps more i guess?
Huh actually he doesn't able to inflict any wound in ORT because ORT's body is just so hard that even scratching him is impossible. He had neither the power nor ability to actually kill ORT or even damage it, so what happened was that he pulled an fgo stall tactic and gradually over the course of thousands or I think millions of years fought ORT until he finally managed to snatch it’s heart away by finding a gap in it's defenses and attacks, and the heart became the artifical sun, and after tezca & daybit arrival it turned into a god called Kukulkan.
The power of memorize the attack pattern is real!!!
@@HerMi.T i'd say taking somethings heart is a wound
does that make him technically Kuku's dad since he helped create her?
Gotta love that intro. Both the theme and the visual are fking good.
We fr need more like these i hope we have more intros for important bosses
@@mulpa2154 it's weird how ORT doesn't have one despite him being the biggest threat of this LB ...
@@dedpenguin yeah i agree, it would've been a very nice little touch if they gave him one
@@dedpenguin maybe they are saving it for the final fight?
@@dedpenguin it does have that type of intro not just in start of fight.
Camazotz, The King of Braves, may you rest in peace.
Huge and long LB 7 Spoilers :
Camazotz is Beast but not quite the Beast of Pan-Human History. To explain this, I would like to recap Camazotz's backstory:
- In Pan-Human History , ORT crashed into the Earth and destroyed the dinosaur race. Then, the space moss-bearing meteorite, Malla, will come later and begin the process of creating the Aztec mythology we know. That's according to Nasuverse's Pan-Human History.
- In this LostBelt, Malla comes first, make the dinosaurs evolve to Deinos and changes its name to Maia. At this point, the ORT is still on its way and will crash on the earth's surface same as Pan-Human History . Maia foresee this and sent the Deinos underground, Mictlan, to protect as many as possible. After that, ORT crashed and destroyed everything, Maia and the Deinos lived underground. However, both Maia and Deinos are photosynthesizer. Maia, who created an artificial sun for Mictlan, also ran out of energy and since then, the Deinos have fallen into a long hibernation. From here on, the history of mankind in this LostBelt continues to proceed as it does in Pan-Human History. Until the ORT wakes up.
- Even without the concept of death, the impact damaged ORT's body causing it to go into hibernation to heal. After millions of years, ORT rises and destroys all of humanity.
- Facing ORT , the humanity of this LostBelt decided to sacrifice everything for Camazotz, the king of humanity in this LostBelt , and bestow upon him immortality to defeat the ORT.
- However, Camazotz only has immortality and no special ability to destroy ORT. However, for the sake of humanity, he had faced ORT for an unknown amount of time. It could be millions, billions, maybe millennia, he kept dying and resurrecting just to defeat ORT. Until a single chance appeared for him and he succeeded in grabbing ORT's heart and ripped it out.
- Although ORT is not dead yet, without a heart, it has been in a long hibernation until Daybit arrives.
- After defeating the ORT, Camazotz turns ORT's heart into Mictlan's new sun, causing Maia and Deinos to wake up.
---> After everything, Camazotz realized the humanity he loved was gone because they sacrificed everything for him, so he lost control and went mad. Later, he realized what he had done meant nothing because his Lostbelt would be purged . Unable to accept this, he decides to return to his true form and confront Chaldea with only one goal: to protect his world and protect the extinct human history he holds dear.
That's why Camazotz is Beast of Oblivion . He is the Beast of a humanity that no longer exists
Damn, that's sad backstory bro. I can't even imagine his pain. Bro is a true hero to this Lostbelt
And here i thought no one would top Morgan backstory or equally compare to it then Nasu drops this
GOAT backstory transcends Time and Space
@@uwu1970 he and Morgan has the same story: hero fight the vain battle for what they love.
In fact, that has been the theme of many people in this game.
Lasagne... I will EXPLODE OF RAGE if you don't put him in mobile for summon
I will not get over the fact that not only is he voiced by Nobuyuki Hiyama (aka voice of Gai Shishio) but his title in JP is 勇者王, or Yuusha-Oh, which translates to KING OF BRAVES.
FUCK THATS DOPE AS FUCK. I think Yuusha translates to Hero too no? EITHER WAY DAMN IF HES IN NPC JAIL ITS TOO SAD
@@MagicalGirlContractor yes and no. Yuusha is literally brave person. But western media, I believe because of DraQue, translates yuusha into hero for ease
Inhaling copium for playable Cama whose title is King of the Brave to exist
@@kusanagi-no-tachi5303I am getting kyoryuger flashbacks
Camazotz in DDS: you f**ing asshole!!!
Camazotz in fgo: the true dark knight.
It's okay.
You can rest now.
Leave humanity to us.
Pouring one out for my chap Camazotz. Godspeed you magnificent bastard.
Poor Camazotz... everything he's done, everything he endurered was for nothing.
Now, imagine being Ritsuka, annihilating all hopes and dreams of the Lostbelt's inhabitants... we know how kind they are. Now, they have to destroy everything than Kamazotz accomplished after so much suffering.
I hope Ritsuka can recover from all of this
I don't think what Camzotz did was all for nothing, sure he might have lost everything he valued but his sacrifice did allow Chaldea a chance in defeating ORT, without his sacrifce ORT would have been probably unbeatable. So Camazotz in the end might not have saved his humanity but he did indirectly helped Proper Human History to survive.
Beating ORT or not is not relevant in that situation. Imagine that you fought during millions of years an ultimate being who made all the ones you love sacrifice themselve to grant you a chance of beating it, you managed to do it after so much hardships, you tried to rebuild some semblence of a world then you realize that your world, your history, everything you fought for was not even valid cause it was a false reality... Camazotz holds on cause of the humans hopes in him, he wanted to honour them for all eternity then Chaldea came, proves that his reality isn't valid and needs to be fixed. Good or wrong isn't the problem here. For everything he lived, he wouldn't let them do this
@@Goldfinger1718 problem is that his people, the one that gave him the power to defeat ORT, the one that he FOUGHT for, is basically meant to be pruned. While you might argue that he's helping the PHH, it's at the cost of his own world.
Do not pity the brave... it just proved how pathetic you are.
Rejoice in their accomplish; sang praise in their impossible deed of victory. Honor their mightiness in ballads and songs... make sure their immortal name is not forgotten.
When I first got into the battle, I just sat on my chair and listened. Such a wonderful theme. I really hope he becomes playable.
A tragic song for a tragic hero.
Yes, he is a Beast, he is still a hero.
Make jokes about Bat Man
**Finishes Part 2**
He is THE BAT MAN
Exactly
HE is vengeance HE is justice HE is indeed THE BAT MAN
A man who was beloved by his people, and who carried the undying loyalty of his subjects with him across six million years.
A man who, fuelled by that love and an unyielding determination to protect his world and honour the ultimate sacrifice of his followers, fought the avatar of mankind's destruction for countless millennia - until finally accomplishing the impossible.
A man who became a Beast out of desperate necessity, the inheritor of his world's will and the sole proof that his civilisation ever even existed, raging against the prospect of their annihilation.
O wrathful king. O noble king. O, glorious, esteemed and peerless King of Braves.
Your rage shall be quelled.
Your torch shall be carried.
Your name will be remembered.
Peak comment bro 😭
My warrior! My citizen!
Am i a king worth sacrificing your life to?
Is this a country worth devoting your family to?
If it is...
THEN IT IS!!!
CAMAZOTZ IS OUR GUY
ORT: Death!! Useless BAT!!
Camazot: FIGHT!! FIGHT FIGHT!!! FIGHT!! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!
After Endless Battles
Camazot: I win... But what a cost....
This man is the best beast in fgo In everyway
(Huge Lostbelt 7 Spoilers)
Keep in mind, this guy, the guy who ran around turning servants to alters is the same person who became literally unkillable, beat ORT, ripped it's heart out of it's body so it went into a 6 million year hibernation and used ORT's heart to power the sun of Mictlan.
It might be hard to imagine but they are the same person
He beat Ort? How?
@@karlbenito9992 he was the king of humanity in that lostbelt. When ORT awoke and started to destroy the planet the humans decided to sacrifice themselves to camatotz to defeat ORT.
With the power gained from the sacrifices of humanity Camatotz gained the ability of immortality, powerful enough to withstand ORT, but immortality was all he gained. He didn’t gain the power to kill ORT. With that power he fought ORT for God knows how long, each side not being able to kill the other.
After how many years he found an opening in ORT’s defenses and snatched away its core, putting ORT back to sleep. He used that core as a new sun for the dinos, who were asleep while humanity sacrificed themselves.
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@@karlbenito9992 long Story short, the previous Humanity of this lostbelt collectively gave up their lives to Camazotz to grant him Immortality, so that when he fought ORT, he will not die no matter what. This goes on for who knows how long until he was finally able to incapacitated ORT by ripping out its core.
@@karlbenito9992 Insert MGS Revengeance raiden punching armstrong meme for short context with ORT being Raiden and Camototz being Armstrong.
Long context, they fought for so long Camototz was able to take ORTs heart because he couldnt die
This guy's gonna be the anniversary servant I can feel it.
I mean, it gotta be the easiest money grab of the century, just put him next to the word "Banner" and see how even the water dispensers at Lasagne's office put out money instead of liquid.
@@Gacha-Ritual-Master I gonna make such face palm if they don't make him playable, they should have learned their lesson by now with Oberon 😫
@@alesguer8651 not only playable, don't jinx that accursed name, it needs to be playable on FGO mobile, never in that.....place....
Easy whale money from me if he becomes playable.
God I wish.
*The Beast of Oblivion - Camazotz*
This hits harder when you discover that the Status as "Beast of Oblivion" Is something that he imposed over himself. His actual "Beast Title" Is "Beast of Salvation"
The real MVP in this lostbelt
"My friend, we are going to continue the fight that you could not finish, but first we must give you the rest you deserve, don't worry, this will be fast"
**puts all existing Latin American Servants in the game into his team for the fight**
Gotta say that Camazotz is the Hero we don't deserve
Yuusha Ou/King of Brave
Tanjou/Is Born
He’s such a daddy, I want to be a hero of justice for him
Truly everything I ever wanted from a man
mood, bestie.
mood.
"I promise. I'll be your superhero, Camazotz".
Kiritsugu: I was looking in the wrong direction. This guy, this bat-man, is the true hero of justice!
Based
Best Lostbelt 7 servant
YET EVER WE STILL STAND TALL
INVINCIBLE
NEVER WE FALL
Coming from me, a Kama-fanboy, I think this is saying a lot when I say this guy may very well be the coolest Beast-class character yet!! Everything about him, from his sick-ass design, his tragic backstory, his boss fight, and his role in the defeat of ORT, makes him to me the best thing to come from Lostbelt 7. Now let's hope he doesn't get the same treatment that so far both Solomon and Tiamat got (Arcade doesn't count!!!! At least according to the tiny voice in my head which I call Copium) and kept from being a playable servant in the main game. Please Lasengle, please please PLEASE don't keep him from us!!
Also I should add the fact that he was the one to make alter forms for some extremely beloved characters. For me in particular Nitocris and Kingprotea, two of among probably my top 10 fave characters. Thanks Camazotz!!!!!
He is surely gonna be a playable servant. There is nothing to stop him from becoming one. Tiamat is a Primordial Beast while Solomon literally erased himself from the Throne but Camaztoz has all the requirements to be a playable servant and a servant that Ritsuka could summon
@@PhiDuyanh I sure hope you're right. He certainly has the requirements, but there's still quite a stack of non-playable servants that for all intents and purposes should be playable, but aren't. Agravain, Joanna, Shibata Katsuie, just to name a few I'm still hoping for. The slight possibility of Camazots being NPC-only makes me quiver....
@@CrimsonGackt unlike them, camazotz plays a massive role in LB7 and he has pretty sick design too. So just rest assured, he will come eventually
@@PhiDuyanh Yeah good point. I suppose all that can be done is to, as Edmond Dantes would say, "wait and hope".
A tragic story of a True heroic god who stood up for his people and truly loved his people
"Say my name!
the brave of ca'an kingdom;
the bat killed the spider;
the king thrown away his crown
.....the weak one who could not even save the world without the sacrifice of all of his citizens...
i bet you challenge, the blood of Camazots!
the true form of the terror of this Xibalba where ca'an citizen disposed their bodies!!!"
I serious want Camazotz as Grand Berserk. I don't think ANYONE will ever topple him about deserving the title.
a 5 star version of teach or beowulf would be close
What a great theme
Cool boss music, design and his seiyuu is great now we only need him to be playable
If he doesn't become a playable servant I'm actually out.
His theme is sad and considering his history it matched perfectly
FGO batman sure hit different
How Camazotz "defeated" ORT in LB7 (Spoilers)
Before I proceed, here's a TL;DR:
Camazotz is your average Soulsbourne player who is stuck with one boss for God knows how much time has passed.
Mllions of years ago in this LB, humanity actually existed. And no, I'm not talking about the Deinos species, but the actual humans. Humanity in this LB had a really prosperous civilization and their societal and technological progress were high. Humanity was once a huge civilization under the Ka'an Kingdom, where Camazotz was their king (normal king, not Lostbelt King). This was prior to ORT's arrival in this LB.
However, all of them fell into despair when ORT suddenly appeared and realization came that they can never defeat it, nor they can do anything about it. As a last and desperate attempt, ALL humanity in this LB decided to sacrifice themselves for Camazotz who was their king. This eventually led to Camazotz becoming the Beast of Oblivion. He has now acquired immortality and became even more powerful. Because the humanity he once ruled over (and loved) was long gone, his new objective was to fight ORT until it gets defeated.
However, that was proven to be still incredibly difficult. Camazotz confronted ORT for over THOUSANDS of years, maybe even MILLIONS. He had to learn all of ORT's attacks and defenses while repeatedly DYING and REVIVING on the process. His ridiculous immortality was his saving grace.
After what seems to be an eternity with fighting ORT, Camazotz eventually found a way to bypass ORT's defenses and ripped out its core or heart. This greatly weakened ORT and then went into a hibernation as if it switched to power-saving mode. This was when Camazotz finally "defeated" ORT.
Camazotz then used ORT's core as the new sun for Mictlan. This eventually resumed life in this LB, especially the Deinos species. Meanwhile, ORT was in the 9th layer of Mictlan: Xibalba. It absorbed the LB Fantasy Tree and used it for sustenance.
End of story. Now, I will clear some misconceptions:
"Camazotz destroyed ORT"
No he didn't. He simply found a way on how to bypass ORT's defenses and ripped out its core. He was never able to completely destroy this space monster. Not to mention this took him for over thousands/millions of years. Camazotz won by a technicality.
"Camazotz fought a weaker ORT"
No, he didn't. Camazotz fought LB ORT who was as powerful as its PHH counterpart. LB ORT became weak AFTER Camazotz ripped out its core. Also, the notion that "LB ORT is a subspecies" is only applicable to the one that Chaldea fought, since LB ORT is now a lot weaker than its PHH counterpart at this point in time.
Thanks for the explanation, but i have 1 question. How do we defeat Camazotz, due to the fact he is immortal? Is it like Tiamat all over again?
@@xxnormandy4890 yeah, nitocris alter just do King hassan stuff again
Camazotz actually did fight a weaker ORT. ORT gets stronger by absorbing things it devours, and the surface was already scuttled by the time it arrived, so it had consumed nothing. That's why it's Lv 1.
The time is not specified, it is an assumption made by the community since the setting uses "millions of years".
bgmの盛り上がりがもうラスボス戦のそれなんよ
the real MVP🏆
You know what? What if... what if his tragic story is a projection to what will happen to us, the player maybe in the part 3? Imagine that after the part 2, we find out that all of our efforts and sacrifices didn't fix anything? Or even worse, what if after all that's happened, humanity betray us and brand us as the villain? I mean, I can see the same hero theme in FGO as in Fate/Stay Night and Zero. Singularity arc is a projection of an ideal hero. The pretty ideal that Shirou and Kiritsugu saw. Live in a pure way to safe everyone. The Lostbelt arc is the projection of a how being a hero really is. Even when you are a hero, you can't save everyone. Sacrifice will always have to be made. And following the hero theme life cycle that Emiya has been through, the next one is the cruelest realization that even if you save humanity, the nature of humanity will always fear and even betray you, their hero. Imagine that after fighting Beasts and divine beings, our last enemy is the corrupted humanity itself. And while human being human, something like the armgeddon happens or the real ORT come out to clean out the planet. And we will be given a choice, will we try to save them again or just let it be. Welp, my imagination and disgust toward humanity went wild lmao.
Well, humanity already betrayed mc in a way after part 1 and 1.5. It's just that lostbelt interrupted the whole process
@@alreadyd1d how so?
@@skyfire299 it was stated that mage association wanted to imprison Chaldea folks
Maybe it's time to give Ritsuka a rest if PHH humanity came to hate the master just because for stupid reasons. I don't care if PHH ORT wakes up and nuke this planet to oblivion if Ritsuka did was all for nothing if humanity turned against him/her.
@@rogueascendant6611 it's not really about hate, it's about greed and fear. And let's be real, PHH sucks big time, humanity there is completely fucked and the only reason anyone is fighting for it is because Nasu has the idea of a new prosperous age after it, where humanity goes to space and "ascends". Even lostbelt introduced worlds that are far less fucked up like lb 3 and possibly lb 7 before ORT landed (hard to imagine humanity as a whole willingly sacrificing themselves for 1 goal in PHH). But yeah, Ritsuka as a character is a bonafide normie, he fights because that's what any other normie would do, fight for survival no matter what, no questions asked, no controversial opinions allowed. He isn't Shirou from Vow in the Snow who basically told humanity from his world to fuck off for the sake of his little sister, and he isn't Amakusa who has his own idea of what's best for us. He's more like Sieg from apocrypha, a bit higher as a character maybe because of his little breakdown when he learned that he's basically destroying worlds with his own hands.
Not used to seeing a BEAST be an actual beast
W ost for a W character , i wish he was playable , RIP Comazotz
Bruh. So many (good) feels.
Просто лучший, других слов у меня нет.
A reminder that ORT still exist in PHH and will without a doubt, awaken one day. And it'll extremely unlikely for humanity to defeat ORT like we did in LB 7, so Camazotz isn't even wrong for wanting to take our spot as master. He might literally be the only one who can stop ORT in PHH.
The Prime Species that comes after humanity that comes after can face ORT, or humanity in one hundred years. Both work.
I think for humanity it actually would take waaaay more time (zelretch said that statement for him preparing to a fight with ort)
IMO, any Beast, larva, lost or fully manifested, might handle that. There's an obvious implied compatibility issue. Camatoztz was stated as the strongest being in LB7 (over Archetype Earth there and Archetype ORT), with ORT inactive/dead. Even if wasn't a fully mature Beast. Rasputin stated U Olga recovered and can deal with that ORT and absorb it, and the only way she got hurt by Archetype ORT was because was caught off guard and protected the Border out of instinct and still was fine until Tezca's sneak attack. Kuku said beings like Kiara are banes to planets/celestial bodies in my room, aka an evil of humanity. Beasts are to be beaten...but by humanity or those worked as weapons by humanity, and if they manifest with a hefty price as a dark side of human's counterforce. Wich means conceptually only humanity and allies can overcome them. Type Moon is never about powerlevel direct scaling but about concepts and compatibility. Camatoztz couldn't be beaten by ORT but was by Nitocris and Chaldea for his own choice to remember and care, and such. Since we know humans' nature is so predatory that Arc once said would destroy the universe if evolved, Beasts are kind of a concentration of excesses and have the Power of Love on their side. It doesn't mean Camatoztz was stronger in a direct powerlevel contest with ORT, but like those beings are not a match toward an embodiment of concentrated humanity mean girl attitude.
@@thethessaliah Your opinion is wrong then. Beasts being meant to be brought down by humanity doesn't mean they can only be brought down by humanity. Concepts are not inviolable, seen mainly by every being without the concept of death, but they're far from the only example.
There isn't any character called "Camatoztz". Also, Camazotz is not the strongest being in the Lostbelt, as he would be the Lostbelt King in that case and yet he's not, Kukulkan is.
Rasputin's assessment was under the assumption of ORT still being dormant, and Kukulkan is only a piece of ORT, which is still significantly stronger than U-Olga even if she protected Shadow Border.
Besides, this whole analysis just falls apart when U-Olga already lost to ORT outright. Even when fighting weakened ORT alongside Chaldea she died before ORT did.
The Camazotz battle was not because of Camazotz being a beast, but simply due to the compatibility of their powers and his sheer persistence. Just how the battle with Chaldea ended in his defeat due to Nitocris having the right ability-set.
Kukulkan's assessment on Kiara is not due to her Beast status, but again due to her unique traits. The Kiara summoned by Chaldea isn't even Beast-class.
There isn't a statement from Arcueid saying humanity would destroy the universe. Maybe the planet as a reference to Notes, but not the universe.
@@shinji136 That's fine, you're free to have your opinion and I'm free to say mine.
It's stated in LB7, Camazotz is the strongest being in that lostbelt along with inactive ORT (Archetype ORT is never on the other forms of ORT level, she barely can match the Servant version, meaning body is stronger than the Archetype), and being the Lostbelt King doesn't mean you're the strongest being (Skadi was weaker than Surtr), you know. But having authority over the place. Morgan was weaker than the calamities too.
U Olga was ambushed and only took damage because she was protecting the Border. Rasputin flat out tells her to retreat so she can recover since if she was at full power and optimal, she could absorb ORT as planned when it goes to the South Pole. She refuses so in her weakened state because wants to protect Guda and Mash, without her heart (ORT had her heart), she helps to kill the body of ORT. She didn't use all her authorities or her NP.
Kiara isn't the only evil of humanity that has such capabilities, humanity being predatory species in general and the evils are the worst of their excesses. Think closely why they are the ones who can confront them, and why humanity are the ones to overcome them specifically.
Arc said humanity could destroy the Universe in the old Melty Blood, and Marisbury, a human, is recognized by an alien outside the Universe, as an enemy of the Universe. The destroyers of universe = humanity's potential if evolve from this present condition was also repeated in the Melty Blood manga crossover which is promoted as Singularity x part 2 Prologue that is being reprinted so might have foreshadowed Marisbury all along. Could destroy doesn't mean they will, but the whole theme of consumerism being something humanity wield and can mess up everything is even present in Mahoyo.
Camazotz is the best this lostbelt has to offer. Hopefully he's not gonna be an NPC.
Camazots another homie GONE (for now) but never forgotten...
Now rest my sweet child so that you'll once again get your rematch and win for reals!!!
Camazotz fell. The bat god. The beast of mictlan was felled. Mash and the others reeled from the oblivion to see it. A man of aztec nature,with markings akin to the bat. Shimmering and flickering,Camazotz breathed a sigh of relief and looked at fujimaru.
"Thank you...for ending this cruel suffering..."
Fujimaru was stunned. But nodded. Closing his eyes...camazotz faded. And it was done.
To be continued.
Advent Beast,
Oblivion of Humanity
CAMAZOTZ, KING OF BRAVES
(note: Oblivion of Humanity is what i've seen as the translation for the stylized title in his battle intro)
I can imagine a chorus chanting king of braves alongside the music
Absolute Madlad
A banger OST
A very angy bat
Fun Fact: this man's loincloth does NOT cover his rear end.
Hold up, is that Goetia's throne in the temple of time in the background??????? What is going on the this Lostbelt?????????????????
Imagine using izo on this king size nargacuga
LMAO KING SIZED NARGACUGA
LMAOOOOOOO DONT DO MY MANS LIKE THIS
Correction, *GIGACHAD* size Nargacuga
@@Last_Legi0n_ nah its a badge of honor. he could be a new narga deviant
Not gonna lie, a MH collab with this gotta be god tier.
忘却を…禁ずる、忘れる事を…許さない、だと……！？
ぐっっ……おおぉ……ぐぉおおァァァｱﾞｱﾞｱﾞｱﾞｱﾞｱﾞｱﾞｱﾞｱﾞｱﾞ！！！！！！
theme of Gigachad
And now guess who's gonna be the next arcade-exclusive servant
Camazotz represents like how Dr. Strange defeated Dormammu the same way he did with ORT. You cannot win against it but you can always lose until there is a chance you can take. Reminds me of I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream novel
Or how Kamijou Touma "defeated" Othinus by losing for hundreds of billions times until the "perfect" chance arrived.
Lasengle : "musiknya biasa aja ya, ini bukan main villain kok"
Composernya :
Anyone, can someone explain to me what exactly that He forgot so he become Beast of Oblivion? I kinda get why he get called Beast of Salvation, but I don't with Oblivion.
be forgotten by world and world where he belongs never exist in first place. fight until million decade again ort. finally, he became beast of oblivion
@@murdelidewantara900 oh, so he didn't forgot anything, it's him the one that have been forgotten? Okay, now that make more sense. Thanks for the info.
@@setsunakiritsune1297 He did forget it. Forget the sacrifices of his citizens. This is his PTSD. He may go suicide if he remember this.
But this is NOT the reason he became the Beast. The reason is his achievement is forgotten by world. Just a coincidence.
@@tuyylihk hm? But aren't his voice line mentioning about his citizen's sacrifice?
@@setsunakiritsune1297 Nitocris as Anubis put a "forgetfulness is forbidden" law as master of that underworld (Camatotz gave her that underworld line previously).
Please be in this anniversary 🙏
I'm sorry for your loss (God I wish he was tho)
We sadly didn't get him for the anniversary. hopefully, we get him for New years or the 9th anniversary 😢
maybe one day we can see the grand beast class oooffff
He maybe my favorite male character in the entire Fate series... what a wasted if they let him stuck in npc jail
Does this mean we are getting unknown beasts if they continue the story in the future.
It is just that his number is not revealed yet I guess, like the case with Koyanskaya
@@StephanMok he might not even a have number.
He's a beast of extinct humanity in that lostbelt. Not a beast of pan human history. He's accomplished what the beasts of pan human history could not: truly destroy humanity even if that's not what he wanted
There is theory about him being another version Beast 1 like koyan, If Goetia pity human, we instead pity Camezot.
@@Lainheart-84945 I think there's a basis for it. If one looks closely at the BEAST class symbol, the dot fills a different hole for each of their numbers. Going back to check Goetia, they do share the upper left pip.
@@ennearerier402 I do agree with the theory, since in the fight his weakness are like what Goetia has.
This guys story is akin to retelling of Gilgamesh The King of Heroes in the lostbelt
I should read the danm title. Wanting 3 minutes confuses question why the video didn't start but the music still playing? Shiq
After this much chaos, Where's Rasputin ?
Is Arcueid a.k.a Archetype : Earth will come ?
Well, Arcueid is kinda there just in different form as well as tohno shiki
Wdym explain don't make me rise my hope for nothing
@@zarakikenpachi6888 there is in fact an Archetype :
Earth in that lostbelt. But because the inhabitants of that lostbelt are dinosaur thus the strongest lifeform from that lostbelt is a white Diplodocus named Xquic and she had a boyfriend named Tepeu who apparently has MEODP.
@@anggasudapamungkas4593 Tsukihime collab we all waited for!
This theme reminds me of THE LAST ROCKSTARS.
what if he was the grand berserker all along?🤔
It'd make sense
berserker and beast both are defined by madness. however, the difference is that a zerker's madness can be anything, but a beast's madness is always they have their own definition of mankind, and hellbent to remade the entirety mankind in said definition
This comments are making me regret no liking Camazotz.
What happened to u olga marie?
Dead
@@franpereiravmax damn
Food for Exaclicannon
Are we the bad guys just for SQ?
Does anyone know the actual name of the theme yet?
Actual names will be available when they announce part 6 of FGO ost, maybe after anniversary
Who is the grand berserker ?
That was confirmed to be Tezcatlipoca, who also qualifies as an Assassin
@@Slayerofall21 actually nope, he isn't a grand, he was just pretending to be one altougth he claims to be a grand assassin candidate.
There's still no confirmed grand zerker candidate
@@pablo9234 Really? Then why did his sprite popped up during U-Olga Marie's dream about fighting the 7 Grand Class Servants?
He can't be a Grand Assassin because the CounterForce would simply reassign the seat to the First Hassan
@@Slayerofall21 Tez bugged the system and become a candidate of grand assassin. He has a line to First Hassan about it.
Olga's dream has placeholders and shouldn't be taken seriously. Storywise Tez didn't proclaim himself as grand berserker.
@@Slayerofall21 to emphasize what they said of placeholders, just so you're not confused for whatever reason on who the other placeholders are:
They're Castoria for G. Saber and Jiang Ziya for G. Rider
What, this is not "El señor de la noche" this is not the real theme
Wasn't funny the first time and it certainly isn't funny now
EL SEÑOR DE LA NOCHEEEEEEEE
SOY MITAD HOMBRE MITAD ANIMAL
So what happened to this menace in the story?
He becomes one of the only people who can fight Ultimate One for millions of years and became the first Beast to wipe out all of Humanity
@@quanhominh4995 no, I mean what's the conclusion. Is he dead or not?
@@alreadyd1d As dead as a doornail
@@Slayerofall21 😭
@@alreadyd1d It was a merciful kill, as he had suffered the loss of his people and knowing all those years he spent fighting ORT were for nothing, as his timeline became candidate for CounterForce Pruning Phoenomenon target practise
He deserved to rest