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КОМЕНТАРІ • 573

  • @sxhrgvs
    @sxhrgvs Рік тому +80

    You’re so right about this “teams” thing. It’s everywhere on almost every topic. Not just religion or politics, but food, exercise, remote working, all kinds of things. It’s exacerbated by social media where the people from different teams get to shout at each other in public. Totally unhelpful. Great video Layne. Keep it up.

    • @carnivoroussarah
      @carnivoroussarah Рік тому +1

      We are tribal creatures, this makes sense why we form teams. We just aren't very good at competition with one another. We do better cooperating. This is why capitalism always ends in a monopoly.
      How big is Amazon now?

    • @przemysawj6499
      @przemysawj6499 Рік тому +3

      "divide and conquer". If people fight each another, it is easier to rule them.

  • @Christopher-md7tf
    @Christopher-md7tf 10 місяців тому +24

    3:33 onward is JP's entire MO lol, not just when it comes to nutrition

  • @TheRealJackMahoffer
    @TheRealJackMahoffer 20 днів тому +2

    "This is the problem with people who speak outside their area of expertise."
    That pretty much summarizes 99% of fitness influncers.

  • @Krommer1000
    @Krommer1000 Рік тому +43

    FTA. Also, love that Layne, for the most part, still sticks to "around" five minute videos packed with good info, as opposed to A LOT of creators, who go 12 -13 minutes just repeating the same info over and over.

    • @marcdaniels9079
      @marcdaniels9079 Рік тому +2

      Greg Doucette !!!!!!

    • @chriskrause6280
      @chriskrause6280 Рік тому +1

      That’s because UA-cam has a significant ad revenue bump once videos hit 10mins

    • @TheGreektrojan
      @TheGreektrojan Рік тому

      @@chriskrause6280 I thought that was a legacy thing that stopped a while back? Regardless, quick hitting info is good.

    • @mazachek
      @mazachek Рік тому

      Yep you can tell a video is going to be bullshit when they starting beating around the bush and getting repetitive early on

    • @Redfoot138
      @Redfoot138 11 місяців тому

      I think it's one of many reasons I lost interest in Thomas Delaurer's visits. But, then, when Layne posts something more longform, I'm more readily receptive to watching it.

  • @YMESYDT
    @YMESYDT Рік тому +160

    I'm not a fan of Jordan Peterson, but even if you are this is a really good example that confidence does not equal competence, particularly in a highly technical field like nutrition or biology.

    • @saiku7years1months56
      @saiku7years1months56 Рік тому +1

      I like his talks, but about nutrition topic, he absolutely not the right guy

    • @jwisor93
      @jwisor93 Рік тому +10

      Before he got famous, he was great. Then he joined the Daily Wire and seems like he feels the need to make everything he says sound deep and profound. He's mostly lost me now.

    • @sonja4164
      @sonja4164 Рік тому +1

      ​@@ginaherold damn

    • @sonja4164
      @sonja4164 Рік тому

      Well said

    • @jwisor93
      @jwisor93 Рік тому +2

      ​@@ginaherold LMAO this has to be a bot right

  • @Ryan_DeWitt
    @Ryan_DeWitt Рік тому +68

    This is a good example of you can like and agree with a lot of what a person says, but also at the same time think they are full of $hit on a specific topic.

    • @leylol6655
      @leylol6655 Рік тому +10

      Which should logically make you doubt his thought process on every plane of reality and in turn your own criteria given that you agree with someone whose way of thinking is fundamentally biased and flawed.

    • @Ryan_DeWitt
      @Ryan_DeWitt Рік тому +19

      @@leylol6655 Actually that is a logical fallacy. Just because you believe someone is wrong on a specific topic that does not by default make then less credible on another topic.

    • @starlitshadows
      @starlitshadows Рік тому +22

      @@Ryan_DeWitt not necessarily. If he gets on a platform and records a statement like this that is a blatantly incorrect correlation. Its not unreasonable to question other things that may come out his mouth. Does that mean assume everything he says is incorrect? No, but it's not unreasonable to question his reliability on other topics if he is willing to get on and make a video like this regarding things he seems to know little about. Clearly the man is fallible.

    • @fancyhitchpin8675
      @fancyhitchpin8675 Рік тому +6

      @@starlitshadows That's fair but, otoh, you should question everything everyone says, because, guess what, everyone is fallible. And sure Peterson is displaying a lot of unwarranted confidence here but it's obvious that he is biased by his and his family's rather extreme struggles with autoimmune issues, so I think it's pretty fair to compartmentalize the way he addresses this subject from his other work.
      Peterson's critics seem very concerned that his fans are some kind of cult waiting on his every word so they know what to think (and of course he's at any moment about to order them into their brown shirts). My experience and observation is quite the opposite, they take a high view of his insights and use them as a jumping off point for dynamic discussion, and are perfectly willing to disagree.

    • @uchuuseijin
      @uchuuseijin Рік тому +9

      Don't worry, there are a lot of other reasons to think JP is full of shit

  • @ethanw4766
    @ethanw4766 Рік тому +1

    Excellent work on this video Dr. Norton.

  • @Aaronsolnelson
    @Aaronsolnelson Рік тому +56

    Solid analysis and very fair criticism. Whenever I see something like this or something blatantly wrong in my area of expertise, I wonder how much out there sounds good to me, but I'm missing something significant. Drawing any conclusions from one time series of data and a supposed population shock is so difficult. I'm not sure what's been done, but I can't think of a research design that could actually determine causality from the food pyramid.

    • @nathanvanderpool1175
      @nathanvanderpool1175 Рік тому +4

      That’s because they’re two unrelated events. If anything, they’re “related” the other way, the food guide pyramid came out to tell people how to eat healthier because they were getting fat. And then people didn’t follow it and continued getting fat.

    • @jbmazhar2000
      @jbmazhar2000 Рік тому

      underrated comment

    • @tylerasmith52
      @tylerasmith52 7 місяців тому

      I have this same thought! I am a physical therapist. So when I realize how much of my own field is full of shit, i can only imagine that is EVERY field. But i an more skeptical within my own field and more trusting of others, when it should be the opposite

  • @miguelcrupovich
    @miguelcrupovich Рік тому +9

    I loved the edition, the pacman scene and the Layne inside Layne's brain just killed me 😂😂😂

  • @pouyankeliddarzadeh7591
    @pouyankeliddarzadeh7591 Рік тому +3

    Nice video, thanks for putting everything in context. BTW I love your App, CD-App helped me for making weight for my fight. 🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @UnitedHornet
    @UnitedHornet Рік тому +3

    Loved the video, editing is getting better each time xD

  • @nicorellius
    @nicorellius Рік тому +74

    Absolutely love the video special effects Layne adds to his videos... the back of the brain, the spears... classic

    • @JoeKool33
      @JoeKool33 Рік тому +4

      I have to admit I tuned out of what he was saying during the PacMan part....I was more concerned the ghosts were going to get him.

  • @4uto_4ddict
    @4uto_4ddict Рік тому +1

    The editing/production of your vids is getting better and better.

  • @danaso2567
    @danaso2567 11 місяців тому +60

    This guy is a perfect example that an intelligent person can say stupid things. He refuses to stay in his lane and believes himself an expert in anything.

    • @A_Turner
      @A_Turner 8 місяців тому +12

      Jordan Peterson is also a prime example of somebody stupid swallowing a thesaurus and using it to not sound dumb 😅

    • @AleksandarIvanov69
      @AleksandarIvanov69 8 місяців тому +1

      @@A_Turner copium

  • @aaron2684
    @aaron2684 Рік тому +87

    I was a huge fan of JP back in the day. I give him a lot of credit for me “growing up”. A lot of really good lessons on personal responsibility that I was completely unaware of.
    BUT, his side step into other fields are either really underwhelming or completely batshit(imo).
    Really great analysis because it shows that Dr. Layne does have respect for JP but he also knows that people are fallible

    • @Badabinger
      @Badabinger Рік тому +1

      Same for me as far as personal responsiblity and growth goes. But the main area where I see JBP stray too much is exactly on nutrition which he's not adept in (odd really because he's previously repeatedly admitted on Rogan to NOT being an expert on nutrition and he just follows what works with his allergies). His other tangents on stuff like environment seem spot on IMO, in the sense that to me he appears pragmatic and has actual experts on.

    • @przemysawj6499
      @przemysawj6499 Рік тому +2

      @@Badabinger I see this as people problem. He is smart guy (and I love him for his work) BUT, shit tone of "followers" want to know everything about their influencer. How much he sleep, what shoes size he wear, how he wipe his butt etc. I don't know why that happend, they won't become him or any more like him if they do shit exacly like him (espesialy when they admire his intelignece and wear his shoe size while having bigger foot). So... he have health troubles, he get rid of them, by his diet and I get it is nice to talk about it (i had similar problem, but my solution was to heal myself), but people keep asking and asking, then they do what he done and say it makes miracles. He talk more and more about and bam said something stupid. He shouldn't do this but it is hard when people ask you about live advices from psychology POV, but then demanding to help with their miserable live at any point. He push people in good direction, from then they should man up and take their live - and his principles - and be man, but they behave like children, not knowing what to eat...
      Rare little l for my man JBP. Everybody have to have one from time to time so they can get sober.

    • @GasDude1011
      @GasDude1011 Рік тому

      I completely agree

    • @yuurapik
      @yuurapik Рік тому

      how old are you

    • @casualgambit674
      @casualgambit674 Рік тому

      Everything he say is dumb propoganda + lil bit of common sense mixed with fake exaggerated word salad. He just speaks to make u agree to your bias. He is a failed corporate lawyer and became a terrible psychologist with his alt right conspiracies. Now he is exclusively a corporate psychological manipulation tool who talks against government. No wonder there are talks to revoke his diploma licence in psychiatry. Also hes a racist and transphobe and a manchild who tweets 40 times a day and whine daily on twitter and irl. Also he and his daughter are scamming thousands of guillable people and putting their life in danger

  • @ByrdNick
    @ByrdNick Рік тому +24

    Philosophy Ph.D. here. Unfortunately, plenty of what Jordan Peterson says about philosophy (and religion, etc.) is about as far from expert analysis as what he says here about nutrition.
    If you want great philosophical analysis, I’d recommend some proper philosophers like Regina Rini, Liam Kofi Bright, or Peter Singer. (They’ve plenty of free videos, papers, blog posts, etc.)

    • @Gruso57
      @Gruso57 Місяць тому

      I dislike petersons views as well but saying he's wrong because of expert analysis is fallacious. Most philosophical views are abstract and especially the metaphysical ones. Philosophy is not a hard science, as you know.

  • @bjrnfruderman13
    @bjrnfruderman13 Рік тому +1

    Love the editing

  • @ParvParashar
    @ParvParashar 8 місяців тому

    Really loved the editing. 👍

  • @walidak8229
    @walidak8229 Рік тому +4

    No one will get away with anything, and that's what i like about this dude. 💪

  • @TheDarkKnightEE
    @TheDarkKnightEE Рік тому +3

    Great impartial video, love to see balanced takes. This is what's right, this is wrong etc

  • @Motorsportsinjapan
    @Motorsportsinjapan Рік тому +15

    To be fair, in western countries basically any school or hospital nutrition program, and nutritional education as a whole and many diets, are based off of the food pyramid. And JP is 100% correct that the food pyramid was created by marketers with no scientific or nutritional input at all, it was literally created to get the US agricultural industry out of a deep financial hole after WWII. So while it is correct to say that people don't follow it as in they don't consciously refer to it when doing their grocery shopping, they do follow it in general because of the conditioning when growing up, brainwashed by seeing it on every cereal package, on school cafeteria walls, food packages, in supermarkets and so on. It's everywhere ! And the point that exercise is recommended along with it is irrelevant in this case because that was not part and parcel with the food pyramid itself. In this case I think both Layne and JP are right, it's just a slightly different perspective 👍

    • @BaltasarVespuchi
      @BaltasarVespuchi Рік тому +5

      If you put grains, like bread, pasta and cereal as the base of the food pyramid.. then that is what people mostly are going to eat. Inevitably, that is going to make a whole lot of people fat, which is exactly what did happen. You don't even need to be a nutritonist to understand that. What is this guy's issue.

    • @casualgambit674
      @casualgambit674 Рік тому

      Welcome to capitalism, peasants. Awake yet?

    • @ThatFuckinGame
      @ThatFuckinGame Рік тому

      as a man growing up in the 90s in a third world country, that pyramid was everywhere in schools and houses, diet plans were based on that pyramid including the food they served us as kids on school or the recommendation they gave to our parents based on it.
      there is clearly a discrepancy here, that pyramid was everywhere and was the argument of my parents and several others and teachers for our food choices and food "health" beliefs. (like literally thinking that not eating enough grains and bread made us sick). jordan its far more connected to my reality here.

    • @Kubaaano
      @Kubaaano 3 місяці тому

      I'm not sure how it is in the US, or how it was before, but I can tell you as a graduate in dietetics that nutritional education isn't "based" off the food pyramid... It's a tool to characterize healthy eating to a wide population (although in sweden we've switched to a circular model). It's a tool and by no means necessarily relevant to everyone. We also have a different illustrative tool called the plate model, kind of representing the same things (although vegetables take the majority spot instead of grains).
      And when it comes to grains, there's heavy emphasis on whole grains in any intake model which of course contain more fiber and are more satiating and often more nutritious. Now american companies may have used a sleight of hand to turn their processed fiber-free and vitamin enriched products into the recommended grains category. But speak with any dietician/nutritionist worth their salt and they'll tell you that you have to limit your processed grains in favor of the unprocessed ones/fiber enriched ones (which isn't perfect either but a big step in the right direction) (sugar sweetened cereals also fall under the processed category, which is most cereals that people buy because they taste good.) So once again, JP picks a scapegoat and puts heavy blame on it without understanding/considering that it's way more complex than that. The food pyramid wasn't followed as intended (maybe with a combination of seriously poor implementation of it into the public), and the fact remains that most people simply ignore national nutritional guidance which most countries release regularly and which is always heavily evidence based. So I wouldn't even say it's a different perspective. He's a little right in essence, but mostly wrong in his conclusions.

    • @2adamast
      @2adamast 2 місяці тому

      The food pyramid appeared in the seventies got WHO acceptance in the nineties. So what is that "it was literally created to get the US agricultural industry out of a deep financial hole after WWII" The model is ok for me, if you don't like it just use your superior model, but don't play the "they made me eat 60 pounds of added sugar each year" victim

  • @richpadrina7282
    @richpadrina7282 Рік тому +24

    Whoever is your new editor, give them a raise.

  • @thewayfaringshadow
    @thewayfaringshadow 4 місяці тому

    Heck Yes! Good job explaining THE PROCESS!

  • @eyeofsauron2812
    @eyeofsauron2812 4 місяці тому +1

    One of the best influences out here. Where would we be without Layne

  • @noybrw
    @noybrw Рік тому

    FTA! Great start to my Saturday, watching a biolayne "what the fitness" video

  • @markhaubphd
    @markhaubphd 9 місяців тому

    Agree!! Thanks for addressing this.

  • @Michaah
    @Michaah Рік тому +1

    the editing in this video was gold

  • @nidaabraityte5035
    @nidaabraityte5035 4 місяці тому +1

    such a good video montage!!! I lost it when I saw the prehistorical dudes with spears😂

  • @BahFelix5k
    @BahFelix5k Рік тому +2

    Perfect "What the Fitness?" video to follow up a video I just watched on American vs. European healthcare.

  • @strwf
    @strwf Рік тому +7

    You should do a video on bart kay. He has no problem doing videos making fun of you

  • @johnm7451
    @johnm7451 Рік тому +4

    So true about the nutrition “teams”. People defend their team at all costs, not a great way to the most accurate information

  • @chriscota1635
    @chriscota1635 7 місяців тому

    I always respect Layne’s knowledge and opinions. The fact that he is wearing a Vortex hat…. New level of respect

  • @primalmythic386
    @primalmythic386 11 місяців тому +2

    The Dunning- Kruger-Peterson effect.

  • @Daniel-dp8lb
    @Daniel-dp8lb 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for that great and respectful response. Because Jpeterson has done amazing things

  • @Jupitersuniverse888
    @Jupitersuniverse888 Рік тому +2

    Everywhere you look groceries etc has added sugar, the biggest scam was 99% fat free it should of been 99% sugar free, fruit, veg, nuts etc, fish, some meat, cut the sugar and processed foods and refined carbs where you can, thats what i do anyway.

  • @MPoweredChristianMinistries
    @MPoweredChristianMinistries 9 місяців тому +1

    Totally agree.

  • @Chrome47
    @Chrome47 Рік тому

    Important distinction. Makes me want to hear your opinion on the ongoing immunity and prophylactic stuff.

    • @sagebauer1077
      @sagebauer1077 Рік тому +2

      You probably won't hear it - Layne stays in his lane, and focuses on nutrition and exercise science. I'm sure he has some solid opinions on the topic but as he said in this vid, people should stick to their areas of study when disseminating information

    • @Chrome47
      @Chrome47 Рік тому +1

      @@sagebauer1077 agreed. Just imagine he has some first principles he could share for future issues.

  • @MikeHughesShooter
    @MikeHughesShooter 5 місяців тому

    Layne, What is the best scope for my .338 Lapua? #vortex

  • @TheHaiku2
    @TheHaiku2 Рік тому +4

    It's weird. A few years ago when he would talk about his red meat only diet he was couch it in 'I'm no expert, all I can say is it worked for me.' Now he's bordering on Liver King levels of nutritional bullshit? Times change, huh.

    • @casualgambit674
      @casualgambit674 Рік тому

      Everything he say is dumb propoganda + lil bit of common sense mixed with fake exaggerated word salad. He just speaks to make u agree to your bias. He is a failed corporate lawyer and became a terrible psychologist with his alt right conspiracies. Now he is exclusively a corporate psychological manipulation tool who talks against government. No wonder there are talks to revoke his diploma licence in psychiatry. Also hes a racist and transphobe and a manchild who tweets 40 times a day and whine daily on twitter and irl. Also he and his daughter are scamming thousands of guillable people and putting their life in danger.
      He was always bad. Common people arent experts in psychiatry to figure it out. Jp is just ba into phd and not actual medical post graduate. Hence i could figure it out beforehand. Lot of the people didnt have this expertise

  • @ThePope19861
    @ThePope19861 Рік тому +4

    I love both these guys, and I respect the layne you took. Respect.

  • @Brc-kg1mg
    @Brc-kg1mg 4 місяці тому

    Crazy to see that layne is still so underrated.

    • @Macgee826
      @Macgee826 3 місяці тому

      There is a reason for it

  • @boblangford5514
    @boblangford5514 7 місяців тому +2

    “The government said to eat more carbs, and that made people obese.”
    I thought Jordan Peterson was a champion of personal responsibility, but he says it’s the government’s fault that people have gotten fatter. 😂

  • @mediocrejoker9447
    @mediocrejoker9447 Рік тому +2

    on a side note, if 10-12 sets a week is recommended volume, and shoulders are 3 different muscle groups does than mean i gotta do 10 sets of front, 10 sets of side and 10 sets of rear delts?

    • @Mark-ww1vf
      @Mark-ww1vf Рік тому +2

      shoulders is 1 muscle group with 3 muscle heads, but personally I like to do a lot of volume for shoulders

    • @Morpheah
      @Morpheah Рік тому +1

      In theory, yes, but in reality, you have to keep in mind that the delts can get fairly sufficient stimulation from most of the upper body compound exercises. So for example, if you already do 10+ sets of bench press, incline press, DB press, chest flyes, dips and finish every chest workout off with push-ups, maaaybe you don't have to add another 10 sets of overhead press (that is, at least for the time being, you can always switch it up later on). When it comes to side and rear delts, however, you can experiment with lateral raises and reverse flyes for a while; if 10 sets of each don't fatigue you and/or if you feel you get significant growth out of them, there's probably no harm in adding those on top of everything else!

    • @betrayedpredator8826
      @betrayedpredator8826 Рік тому +1

      Front delt volume comes from pressing movements. Sidd delt from lateral raises and overhead presses. Rear delt comes from rows.
      You can add some front / rear delt volume in, but you don't need a lot. Side delts just do like 4-5 lateral raises per push day

    • @marcdaniels9079
      @marcdaniels9079 Рік тому +1

      @@Morpheah There is harm unless you are a fan of German High Volume Training and/or are using PEDs. More is not better.

    • @starlitshadows
      @starlitshadows Рік тому +1

      I've always preferred doing an extra exercise for side delts since they don't get hit in anything else. So instead of doing 3-4 sets for side I may do 6-8 total.3-4 each for front and rear. Sometimes I'll do extra for rear because my front delts grow better than rear as well. 10 sets for each head seems a little overkill in my opinion but to each his own on that one.

  • @jgroove33
    @jgroove33 Рік тому +4

    The "team" issue seems to be the case with damn near everything now.

    • @justinw1765
      @justinw1765 Рік тому +1

      That, and more and more polarization and going to extremes. Balance, nuance, holistic logic, etc seems to be going right out the window.

  • @alexanderkirko
    @alexanderkirko 3 місяці тому

    The main difference between dietary recommendations is how easy they are to adhere to. Eat less meat and more carbohydrates seems self-defeating compared to eating more stuff that's more satiating per calorie.

  • @zene2550
    @zene2550 Рік тому

    Yes they put oils in the small category. They did not however make good tatic saying minimize oils. It was more of encouraging a lot of oils over saturated fats. Also saying in the Mediterranean they ate a high fat diet and u can use plant oils to mimic that. So added oils went very high.

  • @TheShredtube
    @TheShredtube Рік тому +1

    Oversimplification causes complex problems.

  • @DeidraAnnOfficial
    @DeidraAnnOfficial 8 місяців тому +2

    You went very easy on Dr. Peterson I feel 😅

  • @DocsGreetingCards
    @DocsGreetingCards 8 місяців тому +2

    thank you, Dr. Norton. Blaming the government is a copout, but they make for a useful scapegoat for many.

    • @Macgee826
      @Macgee826 Місяць тому

      Unfortunately the govt,big pharma and big food are all in cohoots!!

  • @yakked
    @yakked Рік тому +1

    And here I was just going to go with, "correlation doesn't equal causation."

  • @henrituhola
    @henrituhola Рік тому

    I've grown to like your videos.

  • @Sigark
    @Sigark Рік тому

    editor smokin that good good, I mean that as a compliment

  • @mark-xc7oq
    @mark-xc7oq 3 місяці тому

    Layne looks like when captain america goes undercover and tries to hide from SHIELD in The Winter Soldier

  • @MarioJBGugisch
    @MarioJBGugisch 2 місяці тому

    im super late.. but i really want to see that race.. make it happen!

  • @Schyluer
    @Schyluer Рік тому +7

    I just came back from a 30 day trip in Italy, I was there with a friend who is very lactose intolerant, he ate gelato every day and NEVER got sick.. My other friend went previously and told us stories about how she could eat all the pasta she wanted and she had SEVERE celiacs disease, never got sick. Both these people ate tons of pasta and ice cream and lost weight on their trips. The problem with the agriculture and dairy industry in USA is way more than just the diet recommendations or what certain people suggest to eat, our foods nutritional value is really poor, and we stuff ourselves full of preservatives, and eat things sprayed with pesticides, crap thats just not supposed to be in our bodies. We have focused on profit over quality for so long that you can eat a giant apple and never feel full, you get these HUGE strawberries which cost more because they weigh more, yet are not even close to as nutritious, sweet, and filling as other countries strawberries which are much much smaller. The bread we eat in America is basically poison. If you looks at the ingredients of most bread in the US its like a paragraph, if you go to places like Italy and France, their bread has like 5 ingredients. This is why people who have celiacs disease or have terrible lactose intolerance can eat tons of pasta and gelato in many places of the EU and not get sick.

    • @emilystude
      @emilystude Рік тому +3

      I’ve stayed away from gluten for over 10 years due to inflammation and recently bought flour from France to make bread, no issues! Also tried pasta that was a “product of Italy”, no issues! So yes our food is definitely to blame in how it is processed and manufactured. Our wheat goes through radiation, I can’t imagine that helps the nutritional value!

    • @rezzieggg
      @rezzieggg 10 місяців тому +2

      I agree; I’m also lactose intolerant and was able to have lots of dairy with no issues. Weirdly enough, I’m also very sensitive to coffee and even having decaf coffee makes me feel jittery, but I was able to have cups of espresso and didn’t feel jittery once! From my experience I concluded there’s something really weird and off with North American products, but of course, just my experience.

  • @leonananard
    @leonananard Рік тому +2

    Peterson engages in this same exact reasoning with his moral takes and what he tries to put out about evolutionary psychology. He has decent pop psychology takes that you could get from a cereal box. Aside from that he's a frickin quack.

  • @jomamasophat8973
    @jomamasophat8973 Рік тому

    The PacMan animation is LIFE fyi

  • @instantsiv
    @instantsiv Рік тому

    I think peterson is a part of the hybrid effort.
    That section about compliance in the usda dietary guidelines is pretty shocking.

  • @klocugh12
    @klocugh12 Рік тому

    That Pac-Man segment 😂

  • @lutherlessor4029
    @lutherlessor4029 Рік тому +2

    Based on Lanye's last comment, get ready for PhilosoLayne.

  • @cookinthekitchen
    @cookinthekitchen 6 місяців тому

    I would thoroughly like nutrition to be about getting the right answer over a team winning

  • @ricardocantu9330
    @ricardocantu9330 Рік тому

    Did you get a new editor? I like it. I do think you should rethink your stance on JP entering the fitness world. He will be a net positive, just like you are, not perfect, but he will bring in an entire audience that fitness dudes will never reach and spark the beginning of a journey to healthier ways.

  • @grahamchan4266
    @grahamchan4266 4 місяці тому

    If you want a little clarity on the Canada Food Guide that JP talks about, look at the Canada food guide 2007 and priors, and then look at it in 2019. Even the government has shown they made obvious mistakes.

  • @frippRulez
    @frippRulez Рік тому

    I did not expect that LOL

  • @andrewo.9412
    @andrewo.9412 3 місяці тому

    Layne, I like Jordan too. I usually follow you for my nutrition advice though😂

  • @ledgnr197gaming5
    @ledgnr197gaming5 Рік тому +1

    I wanna see you on Mikhaila’s podcast just to see what would happen

  • @nonethelesszero7950
    @nonethelesszero7950 Рік тому +5

    PhD social statistician here. JBP is promoting a subcultural ideology he believes in. It is more religion than evidence-based social or natural science. He's very articulate and, I assume, he knows something about clinical psychology. His grasp of everything else is more tribe supporting nonsense than peer-review based evidence being considered logically. He particularly likes a 1950s USA ideal that wasn't true then and isn't true now.

  • @firstjupiter
    @firstjupiter 11 місяців тому +1

    Layne is so legit.

  • @Bullseye_Strength
    @Bullseye_Strength Рік тому +3

    I got into a silly discussion on Facebook with a group of people that were touting keto as the *only* way to get lean.
    I cited a plethora of people/athletes that consume carbs & are lean & the funniest response I got was that, apparently, you can only be "temporarily" lean if you consume carbs.
    You're basically in a state of pre-fat or faux leanness.
    I fucking despair.

    • @yangtse55
      @yangtse55 10 місяців тому

      Similarly ignore the blue zones and choose the Inuit as a model for a healthy lifestyle.

  • @jonathonbloomfield9912
    @jonathonbloomfield9912 Рік тому

    I would like to see a biolayne diagram/graph

  • @_MrTV
    @_MrTV 10 місяців тому

    3:51 That's his way of doing everything outside of physiology

  • @eMerlast
    @eMerlast Рік тому +11

    "He's partly right and he's right enough to make a cogent argument that sounds good. The reality is, he's very wrong about specific things that basically make his entire argument invalid."
    I don't really follow this Peterson guy, but I've seen two or three videos about his philosophy. Every video I've seen came to the same conclusion that you did. This must be his entire shtick. Please, bear that in mind whenever you listen him talk regardless of the topic.

    • @belottov
      @belottov Рік тому

      You dont really follow this "peterson guy", yet you seem quite concerned with people taking him seriously. A detractor who's attempting to come off as less informed and intersted on the subject than he is. A clear attempt at decieving. You're full of shit.

  • @miharijavec4605
    @miharijavec4605 Рік тому

    I dont get it? OH are the problem? Is norton saying that they are not?

  • @fluffyscruffy
    @fluffyscruffy Рік тому

    3:38 thabk you Layne.

  • @MattCardJacket7
    @MattCardJacket7 8 місяців тому

    I can't believe it!!!! Someone finally stated the fundamental premise under which anyone, at any time should observe in assessing anything...you could be WRONG! Tribalism is a killer. Humble open-mindedness is essential. Everything in the world is mindbogglingly complex; particularly in human biology, which is still largely unknown and even complicated further because it's microscopic. I also find it no small issue that a lot of the "science" is horribly conducted and misinterpreted. Science is a combination of experimentation and sound interpretation (which includes effectively applying reason and logic). This is because it also always involves assumptions. Humility fosters objectivity and an awareness of conclusions ALWAYS being drawn within the limiting confines of what we know right now and that we can always be missing something. You just made me a big fan, Layne

  • @jerz8289
    @jerz8289 9 місяців тому

    I think this a well done video, Dr. Layne. You have made excellent points and stayed relatively unbiased. You are right we are all biased to a certain extent.. I was once a strict Keto adherent, but after watching some of your videos (with much disdain) I decided to re-examine my fat loss journey back in '18... Keto and IF was definitely helpful, but in ways that I didn't think of back then- namely caloric restriction that came with IF, as well as the better dietary choices I made while on Keto... this could very well be the main driver for my weight loss in a three month period. My thinking has definitely evolved (which is the ONLY viable use of that word with biological life- evolution is a myth)

  • @Bullshirt1983
    @Bullshirt1983 4 місяці тому

    I generally like Layne, the problem with his logic(and Peterson's) is that alongside the food pyramid came massive subsidies for commodity crops.. which led to nutrition-less, high calorie, highly processed garbage Making those foods insanely cheap and highly available. The food pyramid only tells one side of story. Go look on any shelf in the middle aisle's of the grocery store and you will see the same things over and over again; corn, wheat, soy.

  • @Michael-vc2cs
    @Michael-vc2cs 11 місяців тому +1

    Here's the fact. The food pyramid was not at all based on science.
    Peterson's story is still worth listening to because he was able to heal himself largely without the help of the medical field all while going against what would be considered good dietary recommendations. As he would say, "That's not nothing."
    To me this points to an area where we need to question our fundamental understanding of many things nutrition related.

    • @johnnyrotten1666
      @johnnyrotten1666 11 місяців тому +4

      Since he has such a restrictive diet he's not consuming something that was giving him issues. Eating all meat wasnt the cure. The cure was removing whatever it was that gave him issues. He could still eat a balanced diet and not have issues anymore.
      This is the thing a lot of people do when they go on a fad diet. They cut out processed junk, eat less, lose weight get in better shape and they say that specific diet was the answer. But people get the same results on all different diets. A carnivore will look and feel better and they'll blame their previous state on vegetables & fruit. A vegetarian will look and feel better and blame their previous state on meat. But the one thing they have in common is they cut out ultra processed junk and consumed less food overall. Jordan Peterson should just figure what foods were disagreeing with him and avoid those and he could go back to a more balanced diet and maybe he wouldn't be so miserable.

    • @RickyVis
      @RickyVis 9 місяців тому

      @@johnnyrotten1666 This is not entirely true, if anything processed food causes very little issues except in the long term like diabetes and heart disease because the food is refined, which means a lot of components that can cause issues are gone. Just as an example I can't eat whole wheat but I can eat all the white bread and pasta I want with no problems.

    • @Macgee826
      @Macgee826 Місяць тому

      ​@@johnnyrotten1666i just have to say i dont like this guy jordan,lets just see how long the guy lives and if he has any health problems.the proof will be in the puddingas they say.

  • @karlhungus5554
    @karlhungus5554 Рік тому

    One out of appreciation.

  • @Kaztrofy
    @Kaztrofy 9 місяців тому

    The problem with the food pyramid is that there's no way of knowing if they knew people would have a hard time following it or not. The best diet is the best possible one that people can stick to. So was the purpose to make people addicted to unhealthy foods or was it just hijacked by junk food brands?

  • @howlpendragon2134
    @howlpendragon2134 Рік тому

    @biolayne Wow I fu****g loved this one! You should bring John Kiefer to the show. I think he disappeared from social media because he didn’t want to be called out by some like you man Congrats

  • @fla8731
    @fla8731 Рік тому

    algo

  • @Roszomak9
    @Roszomak9 Рік тому +6

    Well, experience you have when listening to his opinions on health/nutrition is same experience people who are in philosophy and social science when he is talking about that.

  • @knicks99
    @knicks99 9 місяців тому

    Layne great video. I am thinking that people did not strictly follow the full pyramid of course, but if they were to glance at it and take away one thing, it would probably be that a diet heavy in carbs is the healthiest diet. Then, for many of those people, satiety likely becomes more challenging. What I'm saying is, that pyramid probably still influenced dietary behavior, even if people did not absorb all of it or cherry picked from it. So the question for me is, was using that pyramid, versus others that could have been used, a public health mistake?

  • @Luke-id1cp
    @Luke-id1cp Рік тому

    Sick Vortex hat

  • @51MFit
    @51MFit Рік тому +3

    One of my friend sent me a reel where he was speaking on the carnivore diet.. I told him pretty much the same thing you said at the start of the video 😂 I like JP ALOT but when it comes to nutrition better for him to stay in his lane

    • @casualgambit674
      @casualgambit674 Рік тому

      Everything he say is dumb propoganda + lil bit of common sense mixed with fake exaggerated word salad. He just speaks to make u agree to your bias. He is a failed corporate lawyer and became a terrible psychologist with his alt right conspiracies. Now he is exclusively a corporate psychological manipulation tool who talks against government. No wonder there are talks to revoke his diploma licence in psychiatry. Also hes a racist and transphobe and a manchild who tweets 40 times a day and whine daily on twitter and irl. Also he and his daughter are scamming thousands of guillable people and putting their life in danger.... There's nothing to like here

  • @librulcunspirisy
    @librulcunspirisy Рік тому +3

    Peterson cares about peddling his political narative.

  • @beme7403
    @beme7403 Рік тому +1

    Very well put, Layne.

  • @justinw1765
    @justinw1765 Рік тому +2

    If anyone ever needed to loosen up, laugh and joke more, etc, it is JP. Dude is wound tightly and seems highly on edge most of the time. Why so serious so much of the time?
    I say this as someone that definitely has a serious, deep, etc side. But let's not over do it. Just like in health and nutrition, generally balance is better than going to lop sided extremes.

  • @secretfeed
    @secretfeed 9 місяців тому

    Hi Lane,
    I get your point from a technical point of view; but also agree with general theme of the govt nutrition guidelines are biased toward industry rather than citizens health.
    I feel your audience would have been better served with a more focus on the logical union ; rather than the non intersection focus.
    I like your content & the emphasis on always question you own beliefs.
    I hardly ever comment on social media posts. I recently purchased a subscription to the Carbon app…. I am an electrical/computer engineer & I enjoy your technical approach to these topics.

    • @nothingnothing3947
      @nothingnothing3947 9 місяців тому +2

      What does it mean for him to focus on a "local union"? He presented the logical case for why JPs claims are inaccurate.

  • @lesleygaudet4395
    @lesleygaudet4395 Рік тому +1

    For the algorithm!

  • @Quixote1818
    @Quixote1818 7 місяців тому

    I don't know anyone who is even aware of the current nutrition pyramid. It's not like it is marketed to the general public.

  • @mikeberk810
    @mikeberk810 8 місяців тому

    The way dr Berg talks about bread causing autism is basically how Peterson talks about adhd.
    I used to like listening to him until I heard him speak with seeming authority, absolute crap about my disorder.

  • @maxl.5297
    @maxl.5297 Рік тому

    Lol.
    Anyone else noticed how empty layne made it sound when he portrayed himself as the voice in his head? 😂

  • @Lesminster
    @Lesminster Рік тому +16

    Unfortunately people who are experts in some topic tend to share their thoughts on many subjects they are nowhere near to be an expert of. That's the sad reality because it undermines credentiality of those people even in their own field of expertise. I wish JP sticked to psychology and philosophy. He's reeeealy good out there.

    • @TheGreektrojan
      @TheGreektrojan Рік тому +3

      Same. Was a fan early on when it was mostly posts of his university lectures. Haven't watched him in years intentionally as even clicking one of his videos will turn your UA-cam feed into a toxic, virulent mess.

  • @OsAbliNgin911
    @OsAbliNgin911 6 місяців тому

    He has a point. Before the government got in the food system people were naturally slim. There was rarely obesity, and gyms were not popular.

    • @dankid1742
      @dankid1742 5 місяців тому

      Is there cause and effect there? Maybe the government got involved because people were getting fatter. People were also leaner before the any modern diet was published, did all these diets cause obesity?

    • @OsAbliNgin911
      @OsAbliNgin911 5 місяців тому

      @@dankid1742 No, the government got involved because the president AKA one of the elites died from a heart attack for the first time, which they had never experienced before, so they wanted to know what caused it. If an average joe died from a heart attack at that time they would not care.

    • @newguy1122
      @newguy1122 Місяць тому

      people were mal nurished which is why the government wanted cheap palatable food

  • @jomamasophat8973
    @jomamasophat8973 Рік тому +2

    Whoever the editor is for these videos is on FIRE

  • @AllCurio
    @AllCurio Рік тому +7

    "He's right enough to make a cogent argument that sounds good. The reality is, he's very wrong about specific things that make his entire argument invalid." Mfers will really watch someone step into their domain and be like "man this guy is really acting confident with his off the wall bullshit" but not turn a critical eye to the rest of the content they churn out. Why would you continue respecting his philosophical shit when you have evidence that he pushes bullshit in your domain? You think he doesn't practice rigor and logic in your domain but is a lot more rigorous and logical in his own? "I mean he is completely full of shit here but what are the odds he's full of shit all the time."

  • @Pst103
    @Pst103 16 днів тому

    Nice video

  • @carlocalingasan998
    @carlocalingasan998 4 місяці тому

    Would exercise have kept us from getting fat while following the high carb pyramid?