Class 37261 Caithness off track
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2020
- Back in September 2017 the power unit from Class 37261 Caithness was removed to make working on the power unit more accessible during its restoration and now 3 years later with the power unit now fully restored by the Scottish Class 37 group and the Bo'ness Diesel Group and soon to be installed back into the locomotive in a few days time.
Whilst being shunted by DRS Class 20305 in the railways back yard the Class 37261 jumped the track and derailed outside the MMPD (Modern Motive Power Depot). This was the attempts of some diesel group guys to re-rail the locomotive again. - Авто та транспорт
This reminded me of my time in the Artillery and the Royal Armoured Corps. Nothing is light, everything is heavy and even the little things take strength and effort!
in view of the comment 5 days ago about armchair engineers. I worked on BR as a breakdown supervisor for over 30 years and have rerailed many thousands of locos and many class 37's as they were common in my area. I found this video a good example of how not to do it.. I appreciate they didn't have the correct gear, but you never ever jack against a bogie side like they did, despite looking tough things they aren't and will distort or fracture later in life. You never jack at an angle like that steel to steel, it will slip.. a little bit of wood packing increases the grip. I could go on with all the other dangerous faults and how to lose a finger or hand. As has been said below a simple pull back using wooden packing to get height would have meant getting a quicker cup of tea and no further damage to the track!!
I also did this work for 41 years, and that hydraulic jack with no wood on top, and the angled track jack are recipes for disaster or serious injury! Pulling it back in the direction it came from with wood blocking under the wheels would get it up much quicker!
Although I am far from a railroad expert I would agree with you. Simply blocking the wheels to get them to go back into the gauge instead of all that jacking would have been a lot easier and safer. I have seen that done in many other videos and it does work when carefully planned and thought out beforehand.
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That flange looked like it had worn an edge on it. It will climb the rail again if the wheel is not replaced.
It’s their train and it’s up to them how to do it ! You’re a so-called you tube expert
I'm glad to hear that they are still rebuilding the class 37 locomotives.
Good work
Top job, interesting footage, great railway location, enjoyed our visit couple years back, highly recommended and well worth the visit
We have moved Chillers, that were improperly installed and had “Walked” by using that method. Good news is, they were a lot lighter than the locomotive. Bad news, there was no rail to push against. We would put the bottle jacks on greased steel plates, and push / pull the chiller back in place, while sliding on the steel plates. Even picked up a Liebert Deluxe, AC Unit that had fallen off it’s stand.
"She's without a power unit, that's one the factors why she derailed."
[Bullshit to English translation]
"Our track and points are in rather bad shape in the yard and need work."
When you say power unit do you mean like an APU or an actual engine
GWLAD the full engine unit, block and all. Reducing the dead weight of the loco makes it more likely that the long three axel bogies will climb over the points frog rather than run through, especially if the track is a bit worn and the loco wheels are rusty from lack of running while being restored.
Just subscribed it's rare to see UK rail channels with in depth view this stuff 😁👊🏿
Need a beam and proper jacks at the railway , worth the investment for future mishaps . The little jack was nearly maxed out lol. 10 out of 10 for persistence . Well done Stewart
Nice to see that Caithness still exists and would be nice if she could come back to the county sometime.
maybe towed there?
The gauge on the adjoining track will need to checked, using the jack against it will have pushed it in.
That was my thought as well !
That little jack lifted the train!! I have trouble jacking up my car!
Like 'cows handling muskets' as my old Grandad would have said!
This certainly brings back memories of my time as a locomotive mechanic in a coal mine, where space was at a premium and derailments were a common occurrence.
It looked to me like the side they had used the hydraulic bottle jack on to create upwards lift , next to the shed, had wood pieces under it. They got the lift but as the jack was on wood there was zero sideward slide and the ratchet jack they were using on the opposite side was therefore pushing more upwards than across, that is what appears to be happening to me
I'm surprised they don't have proper re-railing equipment....
Of course maybe due to proximity to switch and other track they couldn't use it!
Good to see she is being returned to traffic
Love the video
I think that needed to be more ‘old school’ with the portapack ram on a pair of greased plates so it slid. I honestly thought it was going to twist and take the coupling thread off :D
Excellent
Best video I've seen in a long time.. Weldone
Never Ever use a crowbar in a railway jack
It’s the squeeks that do it.
Quite unique.
Talk about "a game of inches."
Great job getting it back on the rails guys.
Yes! Thank you!
Won't it disturb the alignment of the adjacent tract if they are used as leverage for the jack?
I can't find the link but I remember reading that there was a class 37 that derailed over some points after having its wheels reprofiled but I can't remember the reason.
Just came out of Doncaster Roberts road been on the wheel Lathe , there is a RAIB report on it UA-cam won't let me post link
37605 21 December 2018 if you want to search for it . It was flange climb
i think the track was fault not the iron horse,but great to see her back on track.
Heroes of the rails!
Was the point pulled over securely ?
The bogies are without traction motors and the body a shell. And you wonder why it derails.
But she is still heavier than a mk1 coach, they dont derail. I'm blaming the old Bull head rail, probably went in when Adam was a lad.
Proper old skool, using a pair of Duff jacks to slow her over..
Still good to watch though. The Duff Jack's can be vicious, especially using a long bar in them , the thick wooden handle will give you a headache if it comes out and hits you, the bar would probably kill you. Saw 3 men on one handle on a Saturday night job. The pressure on the handle must've been immense.
Heavy, but brilliant tool on Relaying jobs. All done by a tamper now.
Good sound
@ 10:14 there looks to be something hanging down behind the second wheel, could that have caused the derail? What I don't understand its why they left the other loco running and wasting diesel/money.
The hydraulic jack should’ve been placed on a piece of greased steel so that when the jacks pushing from the other side the hydraulic jack would’ve slid on the steel.
Just like changing a car's tire!
I had the feeling that the jack could explode or shatter anytime.
Mohammed thanks for your comments take care
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could you not just reverse it and reseat wheels?
i guess these guys would do that if it was an option
Realy hard!
It’s great to hear the highly trained armchair engineers are here to lend their wisdom, what would we do without your certificate in presumptive science 👍
could not agree more Harley
@@andrewjowsey1333 It's an old and polluting loco. My solution would be to scrap it insitu. That will solve the derailment. Cut the frames bogies and wheels, and lift them off with a crane ready for further cutting and recycling.
If tha' does nae drop noo, I'll gi' ya me lunch. Brilliant, the way these guys approach this with patience and positivity. Got there in the end.
why no crane ? so many accidents could happen in the process of retrack the loco :(
Good job they were not in a hurry, anyway time for a cuppa chaps.
Would love to see her back in the county one day.
It's terrible when you get derailed while being shunted.
It is indeed Steve thanks for your comment take care
her? i think steam is her not a 37
I have railroad jack similar to that
I’m confused , I thought that the power unit had recently been re installed yet the captions suggest that this is not the case .
Guess it was being shunted for the reinstallation then
See on of the gearcases was missing as well so maybe not all T/motors fitted
What's all the faffing about for? Turn the steering wheel to the right a little and then reverse, job done.
Could of just backed up a foot, it was only front wheels not the bogie.
sorry but you dont use rail jacks to lift a locomotive
that angled jack, lethal!
Wouldn’t a crane solve this problem in less than a minute? Just a thought!
I know it’s a dangerous procedure but this is painful to watch. Two older boys are clueless
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A transverser beam and jacks would of been a lot easier and safer.
Nobody ever has the right handle for the Duff Norton
They normally lift them a lot higher and just push them sideways off the Jack. Good try boys but a bit more practice. PS I have derailed more trains than anyone in the last 20 years it is my job. Great video really enjoyed it.
To be fair one of the guys in the video has more experience of rerailing stuff on the big railway than most of us have had hot dinners.
Unfortunately they don't have the luxury of a bruff and all the hydraulic jacks and steel bearers that come in the back of it.
Thanks for the tips!
I live in wick Caithness this is named after my county
Let us know what happens
Is it me or...........?
When ever there is a video from Bo'ness it's always something that's spit it's dummy out over those points
After all that I am knacker ,!!
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Should have cracked open a can of irn bru,one each side and lift job done ;-0
Should have got 100 unemployed to lift it
Well, that's one place to park your train. Not a great place though.
Job looks not well planned and executed, there should be a better safer way to rerail.
First remove that black plastic bag from the driving cog!
oops!
this video is a good example of how not to do it..