Gandhi's first protest (in South Africa)
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2008
- Clip from the movie "Gandhi" of Gandhi's first protest in South Africa. Gandhi can be seen to lack confidence so it shows him as more human. Gandhi is still wearing a suit, having not yet decided to dress in simple religious clothing. Also there is notably more astonishment from those observing.
Can someone tell me why the guard was trying to hit Gandhi when he threw the passes in the fire?
SALTY EYEZ back in the day , Indians in South Africa were considered 'colored' too and faced discrimination. They were hence required to register with the government and carry their passes with them at all times. Burning it was a form of protest against this treatment , which was illegal. So he hit him
All Indian laborers working in South Africa at the time (I think it was the late 1800s) were required to carry a pass that said they were foreigners & were allowed to work. Gandhi formed a small group that protested the branding of Indians by the Afrikaans govt that ruled So Africa. The guard was hitting him for destroying the passes which, like he says, are govt property. It was an offense that carried jail time but what was really going on was one culture trying to dominate another one. Gandhi was protesting non-violently by not rising up to beat the policeman himself, he was trying to prove that determination can win over violence.
_Pickles_ It is indeed! But too many in the world believe that inflicting pain will get them what they want. Gandhi tried to prove throughout his life that standing up to violence & not fighting back will lead to victory. It works, but takes a long damn time. Worked for the people of Montgomery, AL when they spent a year protesting bussing in that city.
SALTY_ EYEZ when you stand up to the government they will try to break you
@@kavyamoi
Ur answere isnt wrong.
But in someking dont answere the question.
Only because there are rules to discriminate people, why are single individuals follow this?
1. the person is mentally ill
2. the person fear the government, which is governed by mentally ill people
"You can have my dead body, but not my obedience." Quote Gandhi.
Every one except The Creator.
I do wish those gun junkies who were trolling the ATF would read Walden. I’m so sick of those lunatics raving about Ruby Ridge when they don’t realize the ATF made mistakes while they were doing their jobs hunting down a fugitive that was armed and dangerous.
A man can be destroyed but not defeated - Ernest Hemingway
Yeah ...listen to the video
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you WIN." ~Mahatma Gandhi
steve goff fake quote
That’s Donald Trump
Non violent and Stubborn as hell !!! This Simple scene describes him very well 👍🏻
"Strength does not come from physical capacity but rather an indomitable will."
- Mohandas Karamchand (Mahatma - The Great Soul) Gandhi .... who for all of us Indians will forever lovingly be remembered simply as "Bapu" (father) 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
This man had true courage.
cheeseman4444 no, he didn’t
@@commanderofkesariyaknights what do you mean
@@venkatkrishna8278 his a racist pedophile
Are you 🍊@@commanderofkesariyaknights
My respect to this guy.
His a racist pedophile
He was killed
@@yahiryellow1 not in this scene. What the hell have you ever done?
Truly courageous people
Can never forget this scene..hope we inherit this again
You think the British weren't capable of genocide? They tried. So have Americans.
Gandhi didn't commit the mistake so many of us make. He refused to dehumanize the enemy which cuts off your ability to know and understand your enemy. Gandhi refused to see the British as monsters. The Nazis weren't "monsters." They were human beings, our next door neighbors, and capable of all things human. They were US. To appeal to your enemy, you must know them as they TRULY are in every way.
When did the America try to commit genocide? (This aught to be good)
Your spelling ought to be better.
During the Boer War the British used concentration camps against Dutch and indigenous people, annihilating not just cultural elements of the Republic of the Transvaal and Orange Free State, but the people who lived there. Funny enough, Gandhi is when the terror settled down a bit. South Africa is a situation where the people of the UK were blind to the horrors resulting from corruption and the abuse of power abroad.
Seekarr Ya know if I were in Tel Aviv just to visit my cousin I’d help the Arabs protest the Israeli government until the apartheid is disbanded.
@Ruby Williams Yes we did. Why do you think we lost Vietnam? Are you telling me you hadn’t seen Platoon?
1:46 savage level 101
That’s the late Amrish Puri. He was an iconic actor.
Yes, aao kabhi haweli pe
scenes like these should be shown in every school in the world with teachings of their philisophical underpinnings
It was shown in our school today in Religious Education- we are studying Gandhi and the GBE
I've watched this film when I was in high school and it changed my life. It was one of the best movies I have ever seen.
Callum Corrigan
I know it's been a while but did they teach anything about non-violent resistance?
Thinking back what I can remember them teaching was that Gandhi was against all violence and wanted the racism and violence towards other cultures to be ended peacefully.
So I suppose they did teach us about non-violent resistance.
I saw this in my secondary school in Ireland in 1995 as part of history class
love this scene , very powerful
Legendary!
Truely father of our nation
@33kaus holokaust lol, Bose gave him this title :D
How did gandhi change the nation?
(I’m not saying he didn’t change the nation)
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@Nordic Tyr netaji Bose called him father of nation
I often think of this scene and gain from it courage. Thank you for uploading it.
It's worth noting that Gandhi's methods worked very well for Martin Luther King in the US too. I'm not convinced that the American authorities were mentally incompetent either...
@Ruby Williams Nobody said they were....
Gandhi revolutionized the world by defeating the greatest empire in the world, not by battling armies but from simple civil disobedience. Who would have thought the richest and powerful country that ruled the entire world for the past 150 years would be brought to heel by a simple Indian man wearing a loincloth. We can use his teachings today to defeat armies without firing a shot!
@@derekrulez390527 he didn't "defeat" the greatest empire. Britain was in debt, and suffering, Gandhi just took the chance to make the British leave. The British couldn't stay in India, they were outnumbered.
@@peckishparrot1041 aka defeating the greatest empire in the world without firing a shot lol
@@derekrulez390527 How did he defeat them? The British had to leave already, they were broke. Jesus christ people need to learn history.
Courage and bravery.
How to treat others comes with the realization that they are humans first.
I'm so PISSED!! They took this entire movie down!
It's on Netflix and Movie Clips has some scenes uploaded.
@@MCO18 welp either it got removed or it isn't on US netflix
now thats a true warrior
Words to live by
will there be any other leader with such moral courage and "stubbornish" and undettered to his principles. when will we understand the greatness of this man?
Hmmm..... Is stubborn the shit?
FYI, the Indian actor in the red fez and white kurta is Amrish Puri, more famous in the West as Mola Ram from 'Temple Of Doom'.
It was a matter of shaming your oppressors. The British (not just English) were not mentally incompetent. They were capable of shame and had a sense of honour. Gandhi's methods revealed their own dishonourable conduct to them.
Gandhi insisted that German Jews could achieve similar feats using his methods. It is not the Nazis mental competency that makes him mistaken. but rather the cruel and cold-hearted ruthlessness of the Nazi regime that would not recognise genocide as shameful.
What a mistake the British made.
Inspiration to fight for right
Sin duda, los estudiantes venezolanos llevan el espíritu de Gandhi en sus venas... y la sangre de Simón Bolivar en su corazón. Arriba #Venezuela
7th grade Social Studies brought me here
Not like this
Im the one who salute gandhi for his political ideology which he used to gained indepence by doing protest with the help of his fellowmen
Need of the hour in India 2019!!
0:47 those guards look like they about to bonk anything that moves
If people whose minds have not inclined to warriorhood over many thousands of lifetimes are forced to experience such pain, which they are not trained to bear without corruption but manage to do so nonetheless, just to be free to walk the streets without harassment. Then it can be certain people whose minds have inclined to warriorhood over many thousands of lifetimes, who are *supposed* to bear pain to the utmost extreme without corruption, have completely failed in their noble warrior duty to defend righteousness.
Much as I would like the Empire to have continued, I wish it had treated everyone fairly and equally. "Citizenship of the Empire" is something which should have been respected.
Assuming of course that the empire’s rulers were black and brown people, ruling the white fairly and equally?
@@Zenoithegreek what
Great scene
This portion of shooting took place in my college; namely Ferguson college in Pune
I didn’t know the scene was in South Africa
Why didn't he empty the entire case into the fire? He would have saved himself plenty of pain.
to fight tyranny with nonviolence is to bear the pain with dignity
George Inotowok u r right sir
+JRFrancisco20088 If he had emptied the entire case into the fire, he would have become a coward....He wanted to protest...and this was the right way...The objective was not just to empty the case into fire and game over attitude....
That's exactly what I said
It's a form of protest and has various forms. It's called satyagraha. It was to make a point in a non violent form.
@kerpal3 He was fighting back. Just not through violence, but through non-violence.
The Brit felt bad about hitting him toward the end.
That’s gandhi’s philosophy make your enemy feel bad for you
Ghandi forced him to see his own tyranny!
@MIvarsson99
That would be a betrayal of everything Gandhi stood for, and an insult to the thousands who suffered and died for the cause of freedom in South Africa and India.
This scene made me sad
The dude who speaks after Gandhi is Mola Ram!!
Admittedly one of several reasons I bought this classic on DVD.
After growing up with TOD I wanted to see Amrish playing a good guy, hence why I've seen his dialogues more than others in this film.
2:06 - 'Mola Ram' arrested and taken away by Rimmer of Red Dwarf :-)
Love
"It wasn't me!" ... Shaggy
ty this helped me do my homework sa :)
Any one who wants to know what really happened when Gandhi burned those certificates should read the chapter Bornfire of Certificates in Gandhi`s book. Satyagraha in South Africa. There is no mention of any violence or aggression from police. The only mention of violence made by Gandhi in this chapter was a reference to an incident where one of his fellow Indians (Mir Alam) knocked Gandhi unconscious days before. Just another disgusting attempt of Richard Attenborough to fuel hatred against South Africa at the time that the movie was filmed. After reading a lot about Gandhi lately, I believe he too would have been very disappointed in Attenborough’s absolute dishonesty in this scene.
I Always here people say the President was scared that they were Growing and they would lose their power so they decided to kill imprison but Ghandi: "You can have my body but not my obedience" i rreally dont know :(
Do this with COVID-passports UK
The one thing I always took from this is that you can beat up anyone in the world that puts their hands on you but in the end it doesn't change a damn thing just because beating them up will not stop them from doing whatever they do to you. Gandhi was not scared but , he was a pacifist. It takes more strength to hold back and restrain than it does to let all of it out. I learned that one day when I was in High School and this boy sitting next to me for I forget what reason I almost snapped his arm and he got up fast and got in my face and gave me a cold death stare. Was I intimidated? No , I was not but it took strength to hold his fist back that is what real toughness is. After I saw that from him I realized. I was wrong for doing that and never did that again. All that time I had been doing the same thing standing my ground while not throwing a punch. A lot of people think violence makes you tough , it makes you strong all violence does is just make shit a lot bigger than it already is.
Pacifism is not strength in every scenario. Are you going to do nothing when they kill your children? Your parents? That is what happened in the Amritsar Massacre. That is not strength, that is weakness.
@Madhavan Charles: In what way?
I see. The My Pillow guy got his training beating up peaceful protesters.
Police: those passes are government property!
Also police: 2:25
I could’ve been in Tel Aviv and protested the Israeli government #EndIsraeliApartheid
nice
@Myles0Harcourt Towards the end, it pretty much did, that partly orchestrated its downfall. What's the logic behind having an Empire without a significant profit at the expense of the colony in question? Mutual interest is much easier said than done, and is better presented in the workings of the Commonwealth.
such a fair & hansum Gandhi .... Gandhi was very dark btw
@Sharon Cato If he was racist against Africans, he would have never taken up cause in South Africa nor would he have praised all the South African leaders and the natives of Africa.
Mandela himself has acknowledged Gandhi's insensitivities towards the blacks of South Africa but Gandhi was only 23 back then and did not know any better.
He changed when he became MAHATMA Gandhi from Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi.
He wasn't racist. He just had very little knowledge of the blacks. He later became accepting and a humanist.
Younger Gandhi was not racist. Up until he became Mahatma, he was only a product of the times.
He made fools of the British for 50 years.
3:20 *HAMMER TIME*
Right method to protest in a democratic country. Such methods should be used in present day India as well. Though, free from british, but is still injustice in society. Strong oppresses weak. Law enforcement is not free from bias and unfairness.
I was among the Pro Palestine protesters in Philly. Every Saturday, we have this rally in NJ. Last week we went on the consumer strike against the system.
Britishers beating brutally gandhi ji, but Gandhi faced that cruelty and abusive language of Britishers.faced all punishment. Britishers Gandhi ji ko cancer ka bimari lagane ka kosis kiye lekin fir bhi wo ladate rahe
anyone know what date this is in?
Funny, in a gandhi video where nonviolence is the key feature being portrayed, ppl are cursing and trying to prove that they are smarter than the other w/ insults. THIS is the mentality of our generation. Talk big, Do little. And there is this new thing going on: "I have my opinion, you have yours" crap. Instead of looking forward to the LAWS of the world, what is RIGHT and what is WRONG, instead of what is Good and Evil. Ppl and their lack of tolerance for others.
Work is not Worship!...
me when poison passports are required to do anything or go anywhere
I’m so sick of the Israeli fascists IDing the Palestinians in Jerusalem, or in my cousin’s case, Tel Aviv.
What I don't get is that there were less than half a dozen cops there, armed with only batons..... How the hell did they stop what looks like at least 30 protestors?
The leader of those 30 protesters advised them to be peaceful and do not be violent. Please replay the video
Wouldnt the Officer have ordered also his subordinates to remove the burning urn and confiscated the papers?
@MIvarsson99
That's quite a bit of convoluted logic and hypothetical nonsense for just one paragraph. The fact is that Gandhi DID exist, and overcame the most powerful nation on Earth through the use of peaceful civil disobedience. Therefore, to have enacted violence against a British soldier WOULD have been a betrayal to Gandhi's philosophy. And people dying in the name of war instead of peace? What the hell does that even mean? You PREFER war and death to nonviolent noncooperation??
Repentance
at 3:00 is that Gulshan Grover so young & handsum how the fuck he became a villain
Can someone tell me how gandhi changed the nation
@RadarGuidedVermin
Rather strange behaviour, for a non-violent man.
Constitution
it's one of my best example, ....how ONE man, destroyed and defeated a whole evil british imperium, ....with the power of NON- violence,...// the occupation, torture, humilation, mudering, etc .....of an evil outside force, but he brought them down, ....with no blood VENGEANCE, or revenge, eye on eye methods,....// but after this heroic win, he couldn't bring UNITY between muslims and sikhs,.................. the also NEVER ending story war, between islam and hindoeism,.....and finally India, a civil war came, and they created pakistan, .....he also couldn't STOP the status of "superiority " between hindoes, ...the so called "untouchables", a lower and shamefull apartheid system in india .../ / Mahatma Ghandi (RIP)
Ghandi is such a legend!
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Unfortunately it looks like you have totally missed out the point.
he look like nicoli tesla
@VectorEliminator4600
1) I said it in reply to the same thing from an American (thegreatmanofalltime 3 months ago)
2) I don't see what language has to do with it. We both speak English.
3) I am not the #1 offender in the US. I have never committed any sort of crime there.
That's why Mahatama gandhi ji is father of nation
1:42 government property my ass
@RadarGuidedVermin Gandhi would not punch him. He would turn his face away from him and you and the rest who act like they are right yet have not experienced the reality of hardship that Gandhi himself faced. Gandhi is way up there, you, me and other a-holes are down there...in terms of virtue and ideology. So let's not bring his name along w/ words like "punch" to define what he would do.
1:41
South african whites are still the same if not worse
Movie name?
Gandhi
Same treatment should be done with aadhar. It has taken away our real meaning of library and freedom
What was he throwing in the fire?
Their colonial passports.
South Africa internal passes.
Oh Krishna give love and peace to all religion to athetis , to male ,female , transgenders,to gays and lesbians ,to Black and White....or brown .....to animal to plant to every organism, to mother erath because everyone needs you no matter in what name they call you....
And now they want Brexit rofl
I'm sure the English are now proud of their past.
*British
And these were South Africans 😂
@@thomsboys77 That proves how intelligent you are
So, I've just read Louis Fischer's biography of Gandhi, and as far as I can tell, this scene is entirely fictitious.
Gandhi was rounded up and jailed with a number of Indians who refused to register, but there was no dramatic moment of him burning registration cards.
Fischer records an incident on August 16, 1908, in which the Indian community did hold a demonstration and burn a number of registration cards, but Gandhi was not there, and there was no confrontation with the policemen.
Throughout the entirety of Fischer's biography, there is no scene in which Gandhi is beaten by policemen as depicted in the movie above. Gandhi was beaten by various mobs while in South Africa (once by the white settlers, and once by other Indians who were angry at him for compromising with the government), but Fischer never records Gandhi being assaulted by British police as in the movie.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong
It's a movie, genius.
dfcs that's great
May be Louis Fischer missed this part in his study of Gandhi's life.
and Louis Fischer was a soothsayer who could look into a crystal and figure out everything about a given man.
First!!
But now it's worse....Biological markers on your body, can't burned
No vaccine passports..
Kaun kehta h ki Gandhi ji ne lathiya nhi khai thi 😆
Let just end the conversation. You desperately need the time to work on your sense of irony.
What do you know? British colonialists and the Nazis then... US, Europe and Australia now. WAKE UP PPL.
Let’s not forget Israel. I’m so sick of the hypocrisy.
LOL. Thanks, i needed the good laugh.
>occupy could have learned a lot from gandhi, yet sadly they didn't seem too inclined to >non-violently protest,
You are wrong. I have been there and had friends record what happened on their video cameras. Occupy is almost entirely nonviolent despite systematic brutality by the police. Media lies.
The British media also portrayed Gandhi's movement as a bunch of thugs intent on smashing the engines of prosperity instead of working. Go read some of the press coverage from that time. I have.
Vaccine Passports...❓❓❓
Voting ID???
@@Fatpie42 Voter ID is mandatory in India btw
@@caseclosed9342 The clip is actually set in South Africa, but there are areas of India that have suffered from serious corruption issues so in those circumstances I would say introducing voter ID was warranted. But where it is not warranted, I don't support ANY requirement for people to need to carry mandatory ID papers.
@@Fatpie42 i agree with you. Voter id should not be mandatory and only during election to vite.
It’s quite hard to tell who did disgrace themselves here more: The Indians for thus losing lordship over India or the Indians by thus driving out the English; for normally countries are to be delivered from foreign oppression by great battle victories like the Scottish one at Bannockburn. But to be driven out of India by protests, hunger strikes and tax boycotts proves that the English were mentally incompetent to rule, for such a thing could never ever happen to imperial folk like the Romans.
first non cooperation movement.
1. Dr. Rajinder Prasad, the first president of India and great Freedom Fighter has written in 1935, as under: "Guru Ram Singh believed in the political freedom as part of religion. The organization of the Namdhari became considerably strong. The movement of boycott and Non-cooperation, which Mahatma Gandhi started so vigorously in our times was preached by Guru Ram Singh 50 years as cult for the Namdharis.
Guru Ram Singh Non-cooperation movement contained the following five essentials:
1. Boycott of Government Service.
2. Boycott of eductional institutions opened by British.
3. Boycott of Law-courts started by British.
4. Boycott of foreign made goods.
5. Refuse to obey and resist the laws and orders which owns conscience abhors
2. The Daily Tribune, Lahore published a news on 27.12.1929 "Pandit Jawar Lal Nehru was riding a horse. It was a beautiful white charger. Behind him were the G.O.C. and other officers of the volunteer corps. The most striking feature was the Sikh Cavalary dressed in white spotless khadi and wearing stylish turbans. The Namdharis with their flowing beards presenting a thrilling sight".
3. Subhash Chandra Bose said that " The banner for freedom given to Indians by Satguru Ram Singh and the sacrifices done by Namdhari Sikhs will be a matter of great pride for the Indians. The Namdhari Sikhs, experienced for three quarters of century for their peaceful non co-operation movement, are expected to carry forward the banner of freedom in the forefront and will encourage sacrifices. Guru Ram Singh is the first leader of the peaceful non co-operation movement in India .
4. Pt. Jawahar Lal Nehru had written in the Satyug, "No Indian can deny the importance of efforts put in by Satguru Ram Singh and his followers Namdhari Sikhs seventy five years ago in achieving freedom of the country congress merely followed the path shown by them and attained independence."
5. Shaheed Bhagat Singh "(Guru Ram Singh) preached Non-cooperation which Mahatma Gandhi did in ` 1920. His non-cooperation movement was better many folds as compared to Mahatma Gandhi. He ordered to boycott the Courts, establish the Panchayats, boycott of British educational institutions, and also boycott of Rail & Postal systems. The political condition of the country was in such shattered conditions that no one could think to challange and boycott British authorities."
6. Encyclopedia of Britannica "Ram Singh, Sikh philosopher and reformer and the first Indian to use Non- cooperation and boycott the British merchandise and services as a political weapon."
first step, to eliminate the changes between us. Watch close, there's a message here.