I run an automated manual in our 2022 Freightliner Cascadia daycab. 12-speed. Detroit power. Run 80,000-82,000 all day long. 2 12hr shifts. Trucks never shut off Monday through Friday. (Saturday morning actually. ) Hauling hog feed to different hog growers. Makes your shift easier. Going in and out of farms. County roads, State roads, Interstate also. They get hammered day and night. Truck and transmission take it. Got it new last October now have 75,000 miles on it in 6 months. I'm just fine not shifting manually any more.
I had the opportunity to go to Eaton with JW last year and drive this transmission on the test track. I must say I was very impressed. We own several trucks and I have been strongly considering a couple with this transmission
I'm waiting for a study test on one after at least 400.000 miles minimum. Seems most large carriers attempt to rotate out to new equipment at least by then and many O-OPS will purchase an old larger fleet truck. Another test study would be of one with 1 million miles for O-OPs. So far, myself 40+ years OTR, this has been impressive for an all new rig ill admit. A more intensive, indepth overall longevity, endurance study is well needed, THEN id decide. THANKS🇺🇲🤙!
Dang. After driving 45years. 3 and a half million miles. That would have been the perfect transmission. The trouble was. When Eaton first started out building automated transmissions. I would regularly see guys breaking down or getting stuck in gear. Or various other problems. I think that is one of the problems that alot of us Old School guys are going to be hard to overcome. I've watched a few of UA-cam people do videos at the Eaton Test site. Those ride alongs were really impressive. The biggest problem now is. You have to purchase a brand new truck to get that transmission. That's great for the young guys. But for older guys should have them. Unless they hit the lottery. It is not worth it.
I worked with an old trucker who came to canada from Ukraine back in 2023. He was dumbfounded that all our trucks are manual and all of our passanger cars are automatic. Where in Europe its the complete opposite and mainly cab overs. He thought we were in the dark ages with how clunky and exhausting it was to use, and found it weird how truckers in north america were gatekeeping auto trucks as "not being a real trucker". Was an interesting opinion that change my point of view of auto trucks
Ya. I’m with you. I’m not a driver but I always wondered why so late in the auto tranny on semi? I seen and know drivers sitting in traffic for hours just shifting and cab shaking for ever. If I’m complaining about being in traffic’s on my motorcycle and a little manual car. It was only natural to think why in a semi? My. F250 and all those light duty trucks are all auto. Pulling goosenecks with load headed up him and down hill in all conditions. Why are semi so far behind? Also. Why are they so long!! They look cool but GD, what make my career harder than it has to be?? But ya not they are all going auto and auto mated. Finally some sense. Now. I want to be a driver. It seems relaxing. And make some money. I might do it
So I'm not a fan of the automated transmission. 1979 I started on a twin stick Mack. My whole career I've always shifted, but I'd be willing to try one of these just to see what it's all about. Thanks for the video, you peaked my interest.
It takes away a lot of mental attention and let's you focus on other items. At the end of the day you are not as tired as if you shifted all day. I can shift too, but, today if I had to buy a truck it would have this transmission in it.
The dual engine calibration option only available with automated? Is this now available because of digital dash? So could have an X15 with two different HP settings and diff Torque as well?
Is there a weight difference between this transmission and a 18 speed manual, if so how much difference? Is there a price difference between a 18 speed manual and this transmission? Nice video.
Im in Alaska. up to 12% grades in winter. With doubles avg weight of about 110k to 130k total. With this transmission allow me to drive up and down the ice covered mountains and hills without going into a skid?
Stick with a manual. No way I’d want to be in a remote place in Alaska with a transmission that if a 25 cent O ring pushes out you’re dead in the water
Drove super b in in british columbia with dd 13 and ultrashift once you got the transmission set up properly it performed execelent used most in manual mode but the company worked for had probably 50 units with combination never had any problems in extreme mountanous terrain hauling 63500 kg or 138000 lbs had my doudts at first you have to program tranny computer like you want it it worked great no real different from twin stick transition to single stick
Used ultrashift for super b in the mountains, never again. Utter garbage biggest headache I've ever had the misfortune of operating. Could never get it to pickup 5th direct from 4th over without it dropping out in hesitation a screwing your entire shift. Never could get it to shift in a wheel spin either, spent more times chaining up thanks to those pieces of garbage than I should've been. Any automated transmission I refuse to drive. I'll bang gears all day in a stick, but automatic never again
So the main question is how much for repairs. And the wait list. I’m know for a fact that any Pete dealer doesn’t not have the mechanics to work on it. Just like any dealership. Ford doesn’t have any or just one mechanic that knows how to work on those Powerstroke diesels. They just do common issues like maintenance or DPF DEF egr and fuel system things. It will take few months for injectors. Buddies F450 2019. Had a fuel system “failure” according to Ford. And his truck been in dealership for 5 months. And cost $16k. Warranty didn’t cover. So all that being said. What’s the durability on these after 500k. Which is only two years. Will my truck sit at a dealership for 6 months and coast my $35k for a tranny swap and electronics? That’s the scary part for me. Ppl can loose there businesses. I think they need more testing and everyday testing and get an average mileage use and to see what realities out on them.
I run an automated manual in our 2022 Freightliner Cascadia daycab. 12-speed. Detroit power. Run 80,000-82,000 all day long. 2 12hr shifts. Trucks never shut off Monday through Friday. (Saturday morning actually. ) Hauling hog feed to different hog growers. Makes your shift easier. Going in and out of farms. County roads, State roads, Interstate also. They get hammered day and night. Truck and transmission take it. Got it new last October now have 75,000 miles on it in 6 months. I'm just fine not shifting manually any more.
Hell ya
Thanks for posting this! Just picking up our 389 with 600HP Cummins and 18sp Endurant XD Pro this week. Informative, and we can’t wait to try her out.
Let us know your thoughts! We would love to hear them!
I had the opportunity to go to Eaton with JW last year and drive this transmission on the test track. I must say I was very impressed. We own several trucks and I have been strongly considering a couple with this transmission
Thank you for the input!
I'm waiting for a study test on one after at least 400.000 miles minimum. Seems most large carriers attempt to rotate out to new equipment at least by then and many O-OPS will purchase an old larger fleet truck. Another test study would be of one with 1 million miles for O-OPs. So far, myself 40+ years OTR, this has been impressive for an all new rig ill admit. A more intensive, indepth overall longevity, endurance study is well needed, THEN id decide. THANKS🇺🇲🤙!
Thank you for your input!
great looking truck ,great video Keith as always
Thanks 👍
Dang. After driving 45years. 3 and a half million miles. That would have been the perfect transmission. The trouble was. When Eaton first started out building automated transmissions. I would regularly see guys breaking down or getting stuck in gear. Or various other problems. I think that is one of the problems that alot of us Old School guys are going to be hard to overcome. I've watched a few of UA-cam people do videos at the Eaton Test site. Those ride alongs were really impressive. The biggest problem now is. You have to purchase a brand new truck to get that transmission. That's great for the young guys. But for older guys should have them. Unless they hit the lottery. It is not worth it.
I worked with an old trucker who came to canada from Ukraine back in 2023. He was dumbfounded that all our trucks are manual and all of our passanger cars are automatic. Where in Europe its the complete opposite and mainly cab overs. He thought we were in the dark ages with how clunky and exhausting it was to use, and found it weird how truckers in north america were gatekeeping auto trucks as "not being a real trucker". Was an interesting opinion that change my point of view of auto trucks
Ya. I’m with you. I’m not a driver but I always wondered why so late in the auto tranny on semi? I seen and know drivers sitting in traffic for hours just shifting and cab shaking for ever. If I’m complaining about being in traffic’s on my motorcycle and a little manual car. It was only natural to think why in a semi? My. F250 and all those light duty trucks are all auto. Pulling goosenecks with load headed up him and down hill in all conditions. Why are semi so far behind? Also. Why are they so long!! They look cool but GD, what make my career harder than it has to be?? But ya not they are all going auto and auto mated. Finally some sense. Now. I want to be a driver. It seems relaxing. And make some money. I might do it
Exceptional video, thanks Keith.🚛🗽🇺🇸👌
Thank you Bill.
Hope it does better than my 18 speed paccar automatic. My first one made it 900 miles. And now it having issues again.
So I'm not a fan of the automated transmission. 1979 I started on a twin stick Mack. My whole career I've always shifted, but I'd be willing to try one of these just to see what it's all about. Thanks for the video, you peaked my interest.
It takes away a lot of mental attention and let's you focus on other items. At the end of the day you are not as tired as if you shifted all day. I can shift too, but, today if I had to buy a truck it would have this transmission in it.
Down side...you can't rock an automated manual if you're stuck. Been there.
mannn i run tha mountains threw west v pa and carolina and i orefer tha damn automatic soo much more....makes that ride a hell of lot easier
Thanks ....Master,grettings from Chile
Thanks for watching from Chile! I appreiciate it!!!!
This transmission has been out for a while now. ... is there any fleet trucks with 500k miles on them yet? And known issues with this transmission?
I know of several hundred hydrovacs that have that transmission in it and they get abused every day and they are all fine. No issues.
Testing that transmission in a friendly environment doesn't tell you much. Wish they than test it in Alaska. There is Valdez and Pogo run situations
The dual engine calibration option only available with automated? Is this now available because of digital dash?
So could have an X15 with two different HP settings and diff Torque as well?
No. Just for transmission, not the motor.
Very nice!
Thank you! Cheers!
So going down a steep grade and the computer for the transmission fails to down shift or quits working then what ? Does the truck shut off ??
Is there a weight difference between this transmission and a 18 speed manual, if so how much difference? Is there a price difference between a 18 speed manual and this transmission? Nice video.
Endurant is approximately 185lbs less than 18 manual. Cost is quite a bit more, but I’m not exactly sure on price difference. Guessing 7-10k??
Not much
I want an 18 speed automated
Do you have to order the 18 automatic because I only seen with the 13 speed and. I love them but a 18 speed sound a lot better
The fault on the dash went away after a bit....
Im in Alaska. up to 12% grades in winter. With doubles avg weight of about 110k to 130k total. With this transmission allow me to drive up and down the ice covered mountains and hills without going into a skid?
Stick with a manual. No way I’d want to be in a remote place in Alaska with a transmission that if a 25 cent O ring pushes out you’re dead in the water
Hey Keith! Thanks for the new video. I messaged your Instagram page a couple days back. Keep up the great content!
Awesome thank you!
Great video. I'm looking at getting a new Pete. Is it an option to have at least 2 eng/trans calibrations and be able to switch them on the fly?
Yes and yes
@@RockyMountainPeterbilts That's very helpful. Thank you for the reply.
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Drove super b in in british columbia with dd 13 and ultrashift once you got the transmission set up properly it performed execelent used most in manual mode but the company worked for had probably 50 units with combination never had any problems in extreme mountanous terrain hauling 63500 kg or 138000 lbs had my doudts at first you have to program tranny computer like you want it it worked great no real different from twin stick transition to single stick
Used ultrashift for super b in the mountains, never again. Utter garbage biggest headache I've ever had the misfortune of operating. Could never get it to pickup 5th direct from 4th over without it dropping out in hesitation a screwing your entire shift. Never could get it to shift in a wheel spin either, spent more times chaining up thanks to those pieces of garbage than I should've been. Any automated transmission I refuse to drive. I'll bang gears all day in a stick, but automatic never again
How is the mpg with this tans
Great video. Just audio is a bit bad and hard to listen😅. Sometimes things don't go they way you want to, but hey happens to the best of us.
Sorry about that
@RockyMountainPeterbilts Nothing to be sorry about things happen 😀.
You are awesome!
Cost more to run automatic. It's more expensive to fix.
So the main question is how much for repairs. And the wait list. I’m know for a fact that any Pete dealer doesn’t not have the mechanics to work on it. Just like any dealership. Ford doesn’t have any or just one mechanic that knows how to work on those Powerstroke diesels. They just do common issues like maintenance or DPF DEF egr and fuel system things. It will take few months for injectors. Buddies F450 2019. Had a fuel system “failure” according to Ford. And his truck been in dealership for 5 months. And cost $16k. Warranty didn’t cover. So all that being said. What’s the durability on these after 500k. Which is only two years. Will my truck sit at a dealership for 6 months and coast my $35k for a tranny swap and electronics? That’s the scary part for me. Ppl can loose there businesses. I think they need more testing and everyday testing and get an average mileage use and to see what realities out on them.
Thank you for the comments. I have personally sold over 300 of this transmission and zero issues.
@@RockyMountainPeterbilts good to know. Thanks