Man..... These geezers must've hardly seen the light of day what with their dedication to this music & shaping all sorts sounds for the ears to enjoy.... Absolute WIZARDS
the old tech step sound/vibe is just so badass. so much attitude. I love it how they just get a really simple short abrasive sounding groove and repeat it so that the listener can really get into it. that gritty abrasive quality is gone forever, that's why we all rinse the classics still!!
interesting comment about today mixdowns versus their older stuff. Optical dosent seem too pleased. Why not just make the music you want anyway matt! I think we would all appreciate it.
I know what they're talking about with the difference in levels. The old stuff has a lot more dynamics and does sound more natural, whereas the new stuff sounds smashed to bits.
Yep, in many ways D&B has become a victim of it's own 'next level technical production' persona. The music that was made with hardware samplers, effects and mixing desks sounds much more organic and three dimensional....compared to the sterile, super compressed, clean newer drum & bass... which to me sounds very flat and two dimensional as a result. In Rock/Pop they call the period of the last 20 years 'the loudness wars' and basically consider it part of the reason that music of the last couple decades is kind of rubbish. As a result, many producers have now started to back off of those production techniques for a more natural sound but I don't think drum & bass producers got the memo.
@@CalvinL.Stevens You'd also have 6-8 minute tunes with proper intros and they'd take you on a journey. Now, it's like 4 minutes wham bam thank you ma'am, next tune please DJ.
Love how they explain how and why the authentic tech roller dnb sound is pretty much lost. I remember when things noticably begun to change , still good tunes came out but that old sound cant be beaten imo
They didn't change, they just stopped making music when there was no place left for their analog only sounding approach to making music, due to the contrasting digital brightness every other tune being made by then had, that their tunes would not work alongside in DJ mixes, nor compete with in regards to over all loudness.
They're talking about the analogue sound being so much better than digital but yet all these drum and bass producers are making everything digital now so they actually fell victim to the very thing that they say is not as good
These guys. Andy and that are great. But every time I listen to these out . They play serious sounds. Depth full . I look for their names on the line up. They are consistent. ...... Consistently excellent.
Yes, and at this point DJs become musicians, they don't just play tracks. In this video, we see they create their own rythm patterns, they make something totally new from the sampled tracks.
Man..... These geezers must've hardly seen the light of day what with their dedication to this music & shaping all sorts sounds for the ears to enjoy.... Absolute WIZARDS
They were class and you are right. I always say though Dillinja n roni size had the edge on them
and andy c
the old tech step sound/vibe is just so badass. so much attitude. I love it how they just get a really simple short abrasive sounding groove and repeat it so that the listener can really get into it. that gritty abrasive quality is gone forever, that's why we all rinse the classics still!!
I never felt that name “tech step” as it was either jump up jungle or DnB
interesting comment about today mixdowns versus their older stuff. Optical dosent seem too pleased. Why not just make the music you want anyway matt! I think we would all appreciate it.
I know what they're talking about with the difference in levels. The old stuff has a lot more dynamics and does sound more natural, whereas the new stuff sounds smashed to bits.
+lambd01d alot sounds the same these days
Yep, in many ways D&B has become a victim of it's own 'next level technical production' persona. The music that was made with hardware samplers, effects and mixing desks sounds much more organic and three dimensional....compared to the sterile, super compressed, clean newer drum & bass... which to me sounds very flat and two dimensional as a result. In Rock/Pop they call the period of the last 20 years 'the loudness wars' and basically consider it part of the reason that music of the last couple decades is kind of rubbish. As a result, many producers have now started to back off of those production techniques for a more natural sound but I don't think drum & bass producers got the memo.
Absolutely. The old stuff also incorporates what I consider the real Dnb sound a lot more. A lot more emphasis on reese basses, less dramatic drops...
@@CalvinL.Stevens You'd also have 6-8 minute tunes with proper intros and they'd take you on a journey. Now, it's like 4 minutes wham bam thank you ma'am, next tune please DJ.
Light years ahead of time these pair ♥
Much respect from Bulgaria! These guys are a dnb pioneers
Love how they explain how and why the authentic tech roller dnb sound is pretty much lost. I remember when things noticably begun to change , still good tunes came out but that old sound cant be beaten imo
Best duo bar none. The Virus sound changed the whole scene IMO
i cant look at ed rush without thinking its a wig
Ed Brush
Cant believe they changed their sound to fit in .The Wormhole lp is a beast of an album .
they what now ? never changed their sound. you can instantly recognize their stuff for being them through the entire life cycle.
Wormhole was a product of it's time, every other album since then was also the case
They didn't change, they just stopped making music when there was no place left for their analog only sounding approach to making music, due to the contrasting digital brightness every other tune being made by then had, that their tunes would not work alongside in DJ mixes, nor compete with in regards to over all loudness.
Wormhole is a beast of album for sure maybe in 30 years people will realise
Wormhole is still one of the freshest albums ever made imo, not just dnb but all genres. Still inspired every time I listen.
They're talking about the analogue sound being so much better than digital but yet all these drum and bass producers are making everything digital now so they actually fell victim to the very thing that they say is not as good
digital always lacks a certain depth. it sounds "flat" and poor production really highlights that.
Tom Padget That is does, just doesn't have the same presence as analogue, especially on the low end.
They should go n hook up with the rider again n make some more heavy shit in the prototype studio.That would be nice!
I like how he admits that he was a house techno dj with a drum kit wanting a high hat...
MrADAPT12 hi-hats lock you in the groove. Love hi-hats!
These guys.
Andy and that are great. But every time I listen to these out . They play serious sounds. Depth full .
I look for their names on the line up. They are consistent. ......
Consistently excellent.
According to old monitor behing them this interview was taken long time ago.
Shame most of the back cat is recorded of vinyl. Apart from the albums that came out on cd they must have lost most of the dats of the vinyl releases.
Sonic & Silver - Rocket Launcher (Virus Recordings)
old shit sounds way better
Now its turned into Neurofunk
"I had a bass kick and a snare." This checks out!
What is the track at 2:12 - 2:14? (The End)
my goooodddd tune at 2:11 pleaseeeee
Ed Rush & Optical - Compound
Man was playing there stuff from 97 on wax them and dillinja blew prototype to pieces on the prototype years and then metalheadz platinum breaks
Watch this space, new lp coming soon is vintage Virus sound.
I remember each virus release i think i have the white ep virus ep1… and its still a monster sound
2:10 track pls
Sonic & Silver - Rocket Launcher
Surely that's what 'dinner' meant @ 4:18 !
Ant and Dec...!
ed rush is so right! the mixdowns today are PLASTIC. i think we are forgetting where we came from!
I want them to my birthday party... must split everything! xD
5:50 track ??
ed rush and optical - pacman
(the ram trilogy remix is even better :))
tune at 2:34
is called?
Barry Verweire ed rush & optical - compound
Was written on it lol
Yes, and at this point DJs become musicians, they don't just play tracks. In this video, we see they create their own rythm patterns, they make something totally new from the sampled tracks.
This is quality! ... wondering the tune playing @4:38 ?
'Can U ?' by Optical from the 'Virus Vaults' compilation.
Also released as 'Can u read' on '20 Years Of Optical'.
According to a DOA thread it was supposed to come out on Grooverider's Prototype label.
@prestonloyola hmm they're talking at that point but, just before that it's Rocket Launcher, by Sonic and Silver (on Virus) after that it's Compound.
Moose sounded old even then. No disrespect though, guy is a veteran!
thankss mate
Excellent,
name of the tune at 1.55 any one ?
+Robert Munro Sonic & Silver - Rocket Launcher
bad man tune cheers
what is tune at about 2 mins in
Tune at 0:54 please, anybody? Advance thanks
ed rush and optical - check out time
:)
whats the track at 2.11????
Ed Rush wearing toupee?
tune at 5.30?
music at 0.54 pls
+Артем Олефір check out time - ed rush and optical from the album the creeps
holy shit isnt the blonde guy the actor of "human traffic"? :oooooo
very tight
What year was this?
2007
It was put on UA-cam in 2007 but im sure its from a few years before that.
Alien girl my favourite track
@ 6:00 sad but tru.
H e looks like the artfildodger from the film.
Vinyl will never buy! I'm not selling my beloved NO U-TURN records for some poop CDJs - why would I pay for digital music? It doesn't make sense...
two geniuses
Pacman
It physically hurts to read something so stupid
just come upon this n i´ve never ever seen ben with hair.......
Their virus is my antidote!
sonic & silver - rocket launcher
How the fuck are they supposed to make money by selling vinyl if nobody's buying that shit anymore?
Never liked D+B MCs tbh always ruins my buzz and snaps me back to reality 'Hold it down'... 'here comes the bass' ... yea ok guy .
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