I refuse to pay those ridiculous prices for high end products. Especially when I am perfectly happy with the drug store makeup that I use. Sure, the packaging is more luxurious, but I'm not trying to impress myself with how much money I spend when I'm in my bathroom applying makeup. Most drugstore products last me all day and still look good. That's all I need.
I 100% agree. I've bought both, and I don't think that one outlasts the other. I too think our drugstore products are good quality these days (but the prices are climbing, however they have regular sales, which I keep my eye open for.)
@lynettefinnigan9540 And let's face it, Jen is absolutely necessary to the process! She always brings those great products to our attention! I count on her honest reviews.
I buy both drugstore and high end. At the end of the day it is all about performance of the product. Over the years I've had duds from both the drugstore and luxury oroducts.
I love luxury makeup for the experience you get when you use it but the actual cost to make it isn't much more than drugstore (I've worked in makeup formulation). The reasons you listed such as packaging and manufacture is a small part of the cost increase but maybe only a few dollars. Most of the price is just markup for no reason other than to make it seem exclusive and it's pure greed, nothing more.
Agreed! I love to look at it touch it and put it on. But think of getting compliments on how YOU look. Do you really get more compliments wearing luxury makeup? I know I don’t.
Agreed! I love to look at it touch it and put it on. But think of getting compliments on how YOU look. Do you really get more compliments wearing luxury makeup? I know I don’t. I think that unless I do a “look” with a lot of colors, etc. nobody even notices. 😂
Your "Shop My Stash Advent" idea is classic! It's a "no buy" holiday treasure. Your idea to have Henry select the gifts and secretly bag them is better than PriceWaterhouse hermetically sealing the Oscar winners' names! I believe you have started a new tradition, Jen. It is refreshing idea! Also, I LOVE your decorations. So lovely!
A few personal things when it comes to luxury make up or fragrance: - I personally hate it when packaging is extremely heavy compared to its size. I don't need my eyeshadow palette or fragrance bottle to double as a weapon. I don't like it when my bag feels like I'm going away for a week just for taking my lipstick and a powder with me. - I always feel bad when a product has luxury outer packaging or comes in a fancy box. I don't know what to do with that, and it's too pretty to throw away. Eventually I end up throwing it out anyway, feeling bad about that. So very luxurious outer packaging is not my thing. I do appreciate some complementary mini's, though.
Some are worth it, really !! Especially skin care products. Although ,they're over priced,some luxury brands like Clarinse ,Lancome & Sisley ,etc.They are truly great brands ,but over priced !? Of course !! Sisley Paris is fabulous !! But,way,way expensive. Over priced ,yes,of course !! But,do they have real rivals, or anyone else produce real equivalent products at cheaper prices !? No,I don't think so !! Clarinse & I forgot the name of the brand at this moment ,the one founded by a bio chemist based on algae study . They truly work !! Real good brands !! Then on top of everyone, Sisley Paris exists !! But,we can find decent stuffs at way more affordable or much cheaper ones that work ,work differently with different ingredients & FORMULA( formulations & manufacturing make the difference as well ,not just the ingredients !! ) But ,do they work instantly & do the miracle like effects of those high end brand's products do ,no ,merely ,barely !! The most important key products that are cheap ,cost effective & work are glycerin, rose water & Castor oil .Glycerin & Castor oil are in almost every skin care / cosmetic products. That us why ,because they're staples !!! And key ingredients !!! Lol You can buy 'em everywhere & they're cheap !! Facial cleansers are very ,very important ,too !! They have to be right for your skin ( dry or oily ,etc ) ,they need to be able to remove all the make up as well ! ( again depending on your skin types & what kind of make up you wear like heavy or waterproof kinds or natural ones ,so on ) What Jen said here is very true ,too ! The famouse cream starts w M has very ,very cheap ingredients & I believe it's just a hype !! As all the celebrities endorsed !! A lot of times,they really don't even use 'em !! Lol.My late dad was a doctor ,but he had skin care lines ,too ,he taught me about that when I was a teenager. I had friends who were in the advertising business ,they all told me the same that they use cheap ingredients & put tiny bit of the key ingredients &" major break through " ingredients in ,then spend the most on packaging / design / advertising, that is where the most of their money go to !!( advertisements) .💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
* LA Mere ,started w L not M ,my bad ! Lol It was way back in the late 90's ,I think when I heard of 'em for the very 1st time on tv ,then everywhere in magazines !! Then,I read the ingredients at a department store, I went " The heck !!? There's nothing real good in here !!? How can this work like a miracle everyone's saying !!??" I realized it was just a hype ! That's what celebrities do & the advertisement companies do !!! Lol. The sales person asked me if I wanted to buy it ,I told her exactly these & that was the reason I wouldn't !! Lol. 💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
Jen Phelps this is a great video. One thing that you forgot to mention though is that several luxury and prestige brands also have sister drug store brands. Case in point that L’Oreal owns Maybelline, L’Oreal, Urban Decay, Lancôme and Armani makeup. And I’m sure that many influencers know this. And it blows my mind when they act surprised that a L’Oreal foundation is a great dupe for Armani Luminous Silk (of course it is because the same parent company is making it).
This brings to mind La Mer skin care. Almost every Derm MD I’ve watched has said skincare from this brand is (way) overpriced and contains minimal actives. Some people with money to burn really just want to be able to show their wealth by using products like this. This is nothing new, but what IS new is the way in which we can now access very expensive things without actually buying them. When you’re on a McDonalds budget but you see people eating fillet mingon for every meal, you want the pricier item, even though you had previously been quite happy with McDonalds. Before the internet, most people on a budget really didn’t frequent very expensive retailers, so the exposure to the pricier things you don’t have was minimal. Exposure = Covet.
People have been able to share their experiences more bc of social media. However, everyone has to stay in their own budget and stick to products that work for them. Use the stuff you have and shop smart. Be financially responsible. Don’t compare your life to others.
I only get luxury brands if they're running a special deal. Last Christmas I got a Dior gift set for $120. It came with 2 lipsticks, makeup cleanser, facial moisturizer, eye gel, mascara and eye shadow palette, all full size. Plus a Miss Dior perfume mini. Not to mention it was packaged in an attractive reusable case that zipped up, with a handle, I can use after the cosmetics are used up. If I wait until the holidays are over, many retailers put holiday sets on sale for 30% - 70% off.
With high end it's always been about how it makes people feel imo, and it's a bonus if it's actually good. I had NYX pearl pigments in 2010 that had the look of the Patrick Ta shadows.
I think what most people don't realize about Tir Tir and sending expensive gifts to influencers is the difference in culture. In many Asian societies, gifts are a part of the whole sale process, both inexpensive and luxurious. I hope these companies hire advisores that will steer them down the right path. Having recently tried luxury makeup and skincare, I can see the appeal. Even ordering from a mid-tier brand like Tarte was much nicer than buying from Ulta. My order came beautifully wrapped in a reusable box and came with samples I was not expecting.
Wow, your son has grown!! Such an excellent video. I rarely buy hi-end because I find excellent drugstore products. I just don't see the need to buy hi-end especially if brands gift products & trips to people; I wash my face at the end of the day and the makeup products all goes down the drain. Thank you for being here for me !
For brands like Dior and Chanel I’ve always thought that it’s the wildly overpriced cosmetics lines that prop up the Haute Couture division. When you think about the required margins (to satisfy the investors/shareholders) you can begin to appreciate just how obscene the whole shabby situation is. As a marketing pro you’ll know that in retail you have one of the following: High volume/low margin (eg Elf) Low volume/high margin (eg Patrick Ta) The holy grail is high volume/high margin. Once you understand that you realise why the brands push push push their stuff out to the “influencers” Find a product that works for you; pay less attention to the name on the box!
@@stormcloudgathering I do think that both Dior and Chanel eyeshadows are beautiful, and look gorgeous, but I'm not able and or willing to spend that much money on one. Granted if people bought less of everything then it could kind of even out, say if you only owned the one $80.00 palette, as opposed to 7 10.00 dollar ones 🤷 / It's all tied to the 2000's pattern of over consumption, with literally EVERYTHING....
I'm almost 50 and I have never bought a luxury makeup item. The products, for what they are, are ridiculously priced and none of the are worth my hard earned money. They just will never have that importance to me personally.
One main thing I don’t like about drugstore foundation is the undertones it’s very hard to find one that works for me. High end is better about undertones for pale olive skin. Other than that I like drugstore mostly.
I agree most drugstore foundations have bad shade ranges and/or undertones that aren't realistic. I'm a fair/light olive and have found a couple of gems though: Maybelline super stay skin tint, shade 118 & Loreal infallible in shade 415.
Drug store makeup is extremely over priced as well. A mascara pre covid was no more than $12-$14. Now drugstore mascara is up there too , some $20ish. Craziness
@kathrynrady8028 I used to think similarly, but my exceptions are the Covergirl Simply Ageless Perfector Essence and eyeshadow palettes from Juvia's Place (which isn't in drugstores, but is in the drugstore section at Ulta). But I understand your position. Prices are generally too high at the drugstore.
Thank you Jen. I personally do not notice much difference between luxury brands and drugstore brands, except for a few. Thank you for your knowledge, honesty and all the information you spend your time researching and sharing. If people would stop falling for all the hype and purchasing overly-priced brands, things may change in the beauty industry. We can hope and pray! ♥
My biggest draw to more luxury makeup is the nuances in shades especially in lipsticks, with some exceptions drugstore lipstick shades tend to be stuck in certain expressions of nude, pink, rose, red etc. luxury brands have more varied shading and being a mid tone cool tone mature skin woman, I can’t do brights or brownish anymore. I often mix two or three shades together to get what I want but touch ups are more complicated 😅 Great subject Jen 🎉
Jen, thanks to you I recently tried the Neutrogena Hydro boost skin tint and I absolutely love it (you had talked about it in a recent video). I have a few high end foundations I plan to use up, and I’m seriously not going to buy them anymore. The hydro boost makes my skin feel like velvet, doesn’t settle into my fine lines, and surprisingly lasts all day on my skin. You are right, the brand is underrated. No, it’s not a “sexy” foundation, but boy is it ever good. Thanks!
I got so much hate when I commented about how expensive those Patrick Ta eyeshadows are. It was ridiculous the way women were defending it. I just ordered the Kylie Cosmetics eyeshadow glitter quad that was on sale for 16 dollars on her website. They are just as sparkly. I can't wait to get them.
I just want products to WORK! Not a fan of paying extravagant amounts for something that I will just wash down the drain. I DO love the Tir Tir, but I use a brush for more natural finish. Still great coverage without the mask feeling. I'm oily skin though. That may make a difference. Maybelline Fit Me matte and poreless and ELF soft glam are my other go-to's. I am so glad there are people like you out there being so willing to talk about these issues!
Drugstore products used to be cheap $10 & under. Now prices are high for drugstore, more than it needs to be. There’s no testers for drugstore products, color range for base products is limited and most of the time can’t find the correct shade. This leads to buying and returning….inconvenient and waste. Drugstore products seem cheaper at initial cost but when you compare the price per amount, most of the time you’re spending equal or more than a high end brand. There are good sets, sales and deals on high end. I find it’s worth it. Most of the products last long so you don’t have to keep repurchasing as often as drugstore.
I won’t spend $20+ on drugstore it’s not worth it and it makes sense to just spend a bit more to get the high end products I enjoy. Some people spend too much money on dupes and it never compare to the real higher priced item…some spend far more than just buying it😂
Hi Jen, I think Revlon Super Lustrous lipsticks rival many high end brands. I enjoy many of Clinique products (foundation, stick blush and lipsticks in Sugar Pop, Bare Pop and Melon Pop)and Estee Lauder lipsticks are nice too. Thanks for the fun video. xoxo, Karen
Yes a lot of luxury makeup is absolutely a scam. You're buying the name/brand in most instances. Also a lot of luxury is more about the packaging verses the actual formula. I stopped buying luxury a few years ago. Also, forgive me if im wrong but doesn't the owners of these luxury brands also own the drug store brands? Because it wolud make sense that the luxury items would hit first and then sometime later, the drugstore would release their own version. I thought that there was a bit of a monopoly going on in the makeup industry where some of the bigger brands owned the drugstore brands. Edit: this is no shade to anyone who loves to buy luxury and experiencing the luxury experience. Whatever brings you joy is worth it ❤
I was listening to this video while doing housework and when I heard your vlogmas music, I instantly got so happy. I look forward to your vlogmas this month!
Luxury/Dept Store makeup is too fragranced for me so I avoided Chanel, Dior, etc. And I do not want sunscreen or actives in my makeup either. Drugstore gas improved their packaging thankfully. I absolutely hate plastic hinges that break & must be held together with a hair tie, lipstick & liner pencils with lids that won't stay on, etc. But now they are using cardboard & sturdier plastic packaging that is sleeker. So as long as the packaging doesn't break, leak, etc it's not a big deal to me. I just want a good product & most of the time I decant & depot & make my own palettes so the packaging isn't that important. It's ease of use & quality that matters.
I ran into Dollar General today and they were literally replacing the Believe beauty end cap with ELF!!!! The clerk said they mailed all the leftover Believe products back to the manufacturer- so Elf is killing it!!!! The only high end product I buy is my Estée Lauder Futurist foundation for my 56 year old skin- all other high end stuff I buy with Christmas and birthday gift cards. The drug store formulas are great nowadays- Thanks for bringing back and updating the Vlogmas!!!! ❤
One thing I will say about luxury makeup is that the undertones and colors are generally better than drugstore, in my humble opinion. I also don't mind paying a bit more for better quality when I know it will last me a long time.
I love being able to see how much your son has grown each year. I remember not too long ago he had to hold the banister going down the stairs. ☺️ You share but are still discreet.
I have bought two of the blushes with powder and cream duos and an eyeshadow palette. But to be honest, I don’t reach for them that often. They just aren’t that special and not worth the money. I don’t plan on getting any more.
The nicest makeup I own is a Haus Labs bronzer. I love it. The texture is lovely. Otherwise I don’t see the point in spending so much money on a disposable product. Skincare might be the exception but I have Clinique and La Roche Posay that do just fine in that department 🤷♀️
Another great video, Jen! I totally agree with you. We have to be savvy consumers. And the more people are willing to hand over the big bucks for luxury makeup, the higher the prices will go for drugstore too. And I especially love the idea of using what you have probably forgotten about in your makeup bags as an advent calendar! So fun - especially to see what your son picked out!
Less expensive makeup brands are killing it these days! The only high end product I’ve bought is foundation. I love Dior’s ForeverMatte and Backstage F&B but I mostly wear LOreal foundations for my everyday look.
I agree! 20yrs ago I never bought drugstore foundation. It was always Lancôme or Dior. Now there are so many really good drugstore options that it takes a really special new formula, like the Haus Labs, for me to be willing to spend the extra dollars.
For me, it depends on the product. 99% of the time drugstore works great. Usually it's foundation, powder and sunscreen that I have to go mid to luxury brands.
I watched a study on sunscreen and not all highend was as good as the cheapest. I bought a no-name sunscreen from a supermarket (as I'd forgotten to pack for holiday) I slopped it on everyone and not one of us got one sunburnt anything the whole 2 weeks!! Dirt cheap and best formula ever!! Never found it again though 😢😢😢
That's great that the cheap stuff works for you. I have oily mature skin, and also can only wear mineral sunscreen. Supergoop Matte Mineral sunscreen is the only face sunscreen I can wear that looks good and wears well. Sometimes you just have to pay more for what works.
I love your videos! I have been a professional makeup artist for 24 years, and an esthetician for 20, and I agree you can find phenomenal quality in all price points. Skincare, makeup, and brushes. I think there are brands worth investing in, and some I don’t use in my professional kit. The key benefits of the Laura Mercier powder, is in how finely milled it is so your makeup doesn’t become cakey over the day. I can’t say the same for the Maybelline powder, and you end up using more because it’s clumpier in texture. If you just need it to set for a few hours, not worth the price. But if you need it to last all day, worth every penny. And you use less, so it lasts longer anyway. Also, the new blurring one contains hyaluronic acid spheres, which most powders do not. Helps keep the skin balanced for drier skin types. So in some cases, you get what you pay for in terms of how long you need your makeup to last. Or how infrequently you need to touch up, but I do fully recognize there are drugstore brands that deliver fairly well. Depends on your financial priorities honestly.
Yes!! I've started to feel icky buying so many things when a lot of people in the world are struggling. I've started using a good portion of my UA-cam earnings to give back to various charities and spend less on makeup.
Adoring the intro, again, still.. And so good to see your son, how big is he already! ❤ I just can't afford luxury makeup, but even if I could, l wouldn't be able to justify those very high prices to myself, among my life circumstances.
love the way you're keeping it creative while shopping your stash! i feel like 'luxury' makeup has a limiting return on value. if someone wants to pay $40+ on two eyeshadows, that's their prerogative, but i'd rather pay that amount of money knowing that the people who made it were paid a liveable wage, the makeup was made ethically, and that it is an experience. i just hope that inflating these makeup prices doesn't become normalized (as much as they already have been!)
I totally agree with you. Like, i feel like most of the time the price of high end products (skincare, bags, etc.) are marked up and not exactly worth the cost for people with budget. I understand it may be an experience for you, but at the same time it's just an illusion. I'm new to your channel, and i'm loving your works. Your content stems from consumer's perspective, which i need, as i feel the need to stay away from influence from the people on the internet.
This is such a great video idea but I haven’t even watched it yet because I needed to tell you how happy it makes me to see your Vlogmas intro! 😍❤️ It makes me feel like everything is going to be okay! So comforting. And your son grew so much this year…
It's funny that you did this video now, because I've been thinking about something simular for the past couple of weeks. I watch several influences on you tube and have been thinking WHY with all these expensive products being given out for FREE to certain peoples do we ( the rest of us ) get stuck paying the high prices???
I favor drugstore a lot more than luxury, my only issue with luxury is the over extended price. I understand it's gonna cost more, but it shouldn't cost as much as it does. I usually go for the middle of the road for some things, then fill in with drugstore. I love drugstore formulas they have come a very LONG way from what they used to be. I still like to treat myself with high end, but I didn't own any luxury products ATM 💙💙
I buy a mix of drugstore/affordable and high-end cosmetics, but I generally don't touch luxury. Some of the brands are problematic, and most aren't worth the money, especially when the luxury experience seems to me to be disappearing. If I wanted to be mistreated while buying makeup, I'll go to my local Sephora-in-Kohls, dressed down, and in my wheelchair.
I agree with everything you said. But it also depends on what kind of collection you enjoy-I’d rather have three Dior Addict lipsticks than eight lipsticks from the drugstore. The same with Dior bronzers, Hourglass blushes, Guerlain meteorites. I really enjoy the products and packaging and I’d rather have a small collection I can use up.
You created a great look with your selections, Jen! They match nicely with the lip product your son picked out. What a great idea for an advent calendar! I agree with your thoughts completely. You put together a comprehensive, well thought out video about overpriced makeup.
Yay! Vlogmas with Jen! 😃⛄️ I have a mix of high end and drugstore. There are so many great drugstore products out there! Hey have you tried any of the Olay super serums? They’re pricey so I’ve been reluctant to buy and I haven’t really seen any reviews on them. Just curious if you’ve tried any of them.
I have to admit to falling for the luxury brands for some of my makeup collection. I remember the first Lancome eyeliner and mascara I purchased. It was so gorgeous and I really felt that the products were "better". Drug store makeup was so blech at this time (early 90's) and for years I was happy with the Lancome, MAC, Estee Lauder products. Today, I have a mix of drug store and high end. I know I can trust your channel to point me in the right direction !!
🌸🌸🌸Patrick Ta is NOT a ‘luxury brand’…..Dior, Chantecaille, Hermes, Tom Ford, those are ‘luxury’ brands and like them or not, you know you will be paying a premium for them (worth it or not). But it’s when the middle ground (what used to be called ‘high end’ )…..Urban Decay, TooFaced, ND, PT start to creep up that you see greed and or inflation start to really bother people. That coupled with the PT horrible swatches and PT’s video is when most of us drew the line, ESPECIALLY when you can get a Colourpop super shock product that looks even better! Personally I LOVE Dior, they have a great reward program and great samples and GWP’s! Great video Jen!🌸🌸🌸
"Luxury" is a term in flux right now. I'd say Ta is luxury by being priced the way it is and the materials used, particularly now that the luxury experience in stores and at makeup counters is disappearing. Rest assured, that doesn't mean I'm buying Ta's products, but these days, it seems hard to pin down a definition for luxury, and to me, Ta is in that nebulous space. However, like most luxury products, I'm not buying. High-end and drugstore are fine for me.
@ appreciate your view but disagree with you in regards to luxury. Like PT, you just can’t be in one space then decide you want to be in the next without proving it, know what I mean?
I like to try out different things and see what works for me. I can't say I have the budget for luxury makeup but once in a while I like to treat myself and I discovered things that I enjoy, like the Givenchy KissKiss lip oil is amazingly hydrating, nourishing and long lasting for my sensitive lips, works way better than Ole H. or Summer Fridays but I use different things for different purposes. I 😍 Dior blushes. I prefer to have 2 Dior blushes that work great for my skin (especially cause I don't wear foundation nor skin tint) than have 10 drugstore blushes that end up in a trash and all together cost more than 2 Dior blushes on discount. Drugstore has also some gems, like Essence Make Me Glow Baked highlighter, performs like high end. It's important to be mindful and buy makeup that you will use and enjoy and works for you in the end of the day💜.
Jen. I am a drugstore girl and do not give a crap about Patrick Ta. HOWEVER. I am a formula girl like you and Amanda Z. Amanda Z got the shade Still at the Club and has said it is the MOST WET LOOKING taupe eyeshadow in her entire collection. Beating out the old winner Urban Decay lithium, Hourglass smoke, chantecaille and victoria beckham Mink. So far she is the only influencer i’ve seen say this, and she’s the only one i’ve seen try the taupe shade. Theresa is Dead, Angie, and others who have bought the Talk to My Team shade or any lighter shades have said they are average and dupable. The taupe seems to be where it’s at!!! i am dying to swatch it in sephora and see if Amanda is right, but sadly my sephora doesn’t carry it yet. i would love to hear your review of it and compare to other famously wet looking taupe shadows. Like Amanda, i am picky about sparkle and seek not only a shiny shimmer but a truly wet, blinding light sparkling on the water look. Ritz and judydoll seem to have it but i want a taupe :)
I like a lot of drugstore makeup with a little luxury mixed in. Or maybe more so “high end” such as Natasha Denona for example. I do however own the Gucci bronzer and have no regrets. On the flip side I also love the Nyx bronzers too!
Love this video and your take on this. I was also like why is everybody jumping onto Patrick Ta when Urban Decay (and others) have been charging $20+ for single shadows all this time? Like I'm not out here defending him but I did think it was weird that he was getting so much hate for doing stuff other brands do.
You are totally right! That's why I love to listen to videos about drugstore makeup and dupes for luxury products. I will never pay for a name of a brand or a for a luxury packaging that you are going to throw away anyway when the product is empty. I would feel robbed! I bought rephr brushes during the black friday week to try them for the first time and omg what are they good! That's quality! On cybermonday I re-ordered immediately other brushes because they are really THE BEST brushes I ever tried! But I will never pay the full price! I notice that a lot of people become more aware of everything and that's a good sign! Thank you that you are part of it!!! 👍🙏💋❤️
I really enjoy using products with formulas and in colors that work FOR me, and I can definitely find that at the drugstore level. For example, I find that Physican's Formula and anything they make with their "butter formula" works well for my now 50-year-old skin. I started with the bronzer, but I love the blushes and eyeshadows as well! Something about that formula seems to melt into my skin helping to hide dryness and wrinkles unlike other powdered makeup would. I also really enjoy many things from Milani and ELF. I find no reason to venture into high-end, and I don't have the means to regardless, LOL! That said, I don't feel as though I'm missing out on anything either. Honestly, you could stick to just these three lines and find anything you might need from makeup to skincare to brushes/tools. Add a bit of experience with some learned techniques using colors that work FOR YOU no matter the trends, and you're set! You really CAN enjoy makeup without feeling deprived if you focus on what works for you and choose not to get lost in the noise of hupe and marketing. Have a fun and beautiful day, y'all! 💄🎄
Love this video I am 60 yrs young love drug store brands have very dry skin however this year bought lots of high end makeup I mean lots as I felt I may be missing out. However I discovered that my drug store makeup won hands down. Have been subscribed to your channel from the start love your honesty and delivery. Watching from Ireland
I'm so excited to see you every day!!! 😍I like both drugstore and luxury equally. I couldn't afford luxury for a long time, and now that I can, I find I'm gravitating more toward it.
The only brand I will pay that kind of money for now is Mob beauty palette because i can customise it and replace individual shades. It comes out to be far cheaper and easier to manage. I travel a lot so it makes it easy to throw in one pallet, a mascara, lip product, and an eyebrow pencil, and a few brushes. I believe a complete pallet starts at $110
I'm not brand loyal at all! The only time a high end brand gets my money is a unique color story or an innovative product. Even so, if another brand dupes it for less, that's literally where i switch up.
Thank you Jen!! We can rely on you to research and reveal the fictions created by the beauty industry. Your presentation is always so delightful as are you!🥰🥰 Merry Christmas!🎄 ❤️
Thank you Jen for making this video. Especially this time of the year when people are unfortunately going in debt for all these overpriced items. I completely agree with you on everything!!!! You are a trillion percent right on target in my opinion. much love 🤗🫶💕
5:03 Jen I have to share! I’ve been watching you use the NYX Lift and Snatch forever & have just stuck to my NYX Micro pencil and Elf Brow wow thinking it would be too hard to make those tiny lines. Well it’s on sale at Ulta & picked some up yesterday & put it on this morning and 😮WOW do my brows look better than ever! Thank you for the recommendation ❤
That's amazing!! I felt the same way when I first tried to use it but I was surprised by how easy it was. And it just keeps getting easier the more you use it. 🥰
Great video! All of the points you highlighted seem spot on. I don’t buy luxury makeup or even middle of the road makeup (usually) so it’s mostly drugstore. I’ve been quite happy with it. I think you really hit the nail on the head when you said that most people care about what the makeup looks like and how it performs when you apply and wear it. And there is a drugstore dupe or alternative for almost every luxury product on the market. The colorpop super shock shadow was an excellent example! There is something to be said for the experience of buying luxury (if you choose to buy from places that actually give you the experience) while I don’t purchase luxury makeup, I do tend to favor luxury fragrances. Thankfully I don’t go through them fast! And I like diamonds. So ever so often my husband and I will be at the jewelers getting my rings cleaned or sized or what have you, and he will surprise me with something new. I like that experience 😊 ok I wrote a book sorry! Love the vlogmas and having Henry choose your makeup advent countdown was a fantastic idea! Love it! Hope you have a great week! Hugs 💖
Thank you so much for your video. Its crazy to see your son growing up! Anyway. I was a drugstore only kind of girl when that's all I could afford. I always wanted to experience the luxury side of things (Not LaMer level). But I can now afford it. My kids are grown and I can live my best life. So I have Dior, Chanel, YSL, but I also have my drugstore. So now that I have experienced the things that were on my wish list, I now know what I like and what I don't want to spend my hard earned money on. I do now find that I favor some drugstore foundations/skincare, and midrange brands. But I do look differently at ALL brands (especially skincare) now that I have been educated on ingredients. I love the discussions in the comments.
Chanel water-fresh tint is the only thing my skin loves, and there's no dupe for this. And I totally understand why I am paying such ridiculous price. But will buy it again and again :)
I refuse to pay those ridiculous prices for high end products. Especially when I am perfectly happy with the drug store makeup that I use. Sure, the packaging is more luxurious, but I'm not trying to impress myself with how much money I spend when I'm in my bathroom applying makeup. Most drugstore products last me all day and still look good. That's all I need.
I 100% agree. I've bought both, and I don't think that one outlasts the other. I too think our drugstore products are good quality these days (but the prices are climbing, however they have regular sales, which I keep my eye open for.)
Agree 100 percent.
@lynettefinnigan9540 And let's face it, Jen is absolutely necessary to the process! She always brings those great products to our attention! I count on her honest reviews.
I buy both drugstore and high end. At the end of the day it is all about performance of the product. Over the years I've had duds from both the drugstore and luxury oroducts.
Amen 🙌🏾
I love luxury makeup for the experience you get when you use it but the actual cost to make it isn't much more than drugstore (I've worked in makeup formulation). The reasons you listed such as packaging and manufacture is a small part of the cost increase but maybe only a few dollars. Most of the price is just markup for no reason other than to make it seem exclusive and it's pure greed, nothing more.
Agreed! I love to look at it touch it and put it on. But think of getting compliments on how YOU look. Do you really get more compliments wearing luxury makeup? I know I don’t.
Agreed! I love to look at it touch it and put it on. But think of getting compliments on how YOU look. Do you really get more compliments wearing luxury makeup? I know I don’t.
I think that unless I do a “look” with a lot of colors, etc. nobody even notices. 😂
Agreed! I also worked in the beauty industry and we spent more on the packaging than on the product itself.
And that pure greed making us consumers pay more for is absolutely disgusting!!
I agree it’s actually for your own gratification. Nothing more but at the same time, thinking why did I spend the money on that.
This is such a fun, no-cost way to do an advent calendar!
Super agreed ! Stop spending money on influencers and trips and Super Bowl stuff and keep prices reasonable !
Your "Shop My Stash Advent" idea is classic! It's a "no buy" holiday treasure. Your idea to have Henry select the gifts and secretly bag them is better than PriceWaterhouse hermetically sealing the Oscar winners' names! I believe you have started a new tradition, Jen. It is refreshing idea! Also, I LOVE your decorations. So lovely!
A few personal things when it comes to luxury make up or fragrance:
- I personally hate it when packaging is extremely heavy compared to its size. I don't need my eyeshadow palette or fragrance bottle to double as a weapon. I don't like it when my bag feels like I'm going away for a week just for taking my lipstick and a powder with me.
- I always feel bad when a product has luxury outer packaging or comes in a fancy box. I don't know what to do with that, and it's too pretty to throw away. Eventually I end up throwing it out anyway, feeling bad about that. So very luxurious outer packaging is not my thing.
I do appreciate some complementary mini's, though.
On the flip side, I’d be really interested to hear what luxury makeup is actually worth it (if any)
Read the comment further up, she knows exactly!
Some are worth it, really !! Especially skin care products. Although ,they're over priced,some luxury brands like Clarinse ,Lancome & Sisley ,etc.They are truly great brands ,but over priced !? Of course !! Sisley Paris is fabulous !! But,way,way expensive. Over priced ,yes,of course !! But,do they have real rivals, or anyone else produce real equivalent products at cheaper prices !? No,I don't think so !! Clarinse & I forgot the name of the brand at this moment ,the one founded by a bio chemist based on algae study . They truly work !! Real good brands !! Then on top of everyone, Sisley Paris exists !!
But,we can find decent stuffs at way more affordable or much cheaper ones that work ,work differently with different ingredients & FORMULA( formulations & manufacturing make the difference as well ,not just the ingredients !! ) But ,do they work instantly & do the miracle like effects of those high end brand's products do ,no ,merely ,barely !!
The most important key products that are cheap ,cost effective & work are glycerin, rose water & Castor oil .Glycerin & Castor oil are in almost every skin care / cosmetic products. That us why ,because they're staples !!! And key ingredients !!! Lol
You can buy 'em everywhere & they're cheap !! Facial cleansers are very ,very important ,too !! They have to be right for your skin ( dry or oily ,etc ) ,they need to be able to remove all the make up as well ! ( again depending on your skin types & what kind of make up you wear like heavy or waterproof kinds or natural ones ,so on )
What Jen said here is very true ,too ! The famouse cream starts w M has very ,very cheap ingredients & I believe it's just a hype !! As all the celebrities endorsed !! A lot of times,they really don't even use 'em !! Lol.My late dad was a doctor ,but he had skin care lines ,too ,he taught me about that when I was a teenager. I had friends who were in the advertising business ,they all told me the same that they use cheap ingredients & put tiny bit of the key ingredients &" major break through " ingredients in ,then spend the most on packaging / design / advertising, that is where the most of their money go to !!( advertisements) .💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
The brand's name came back to me now !! It's called " Alginist "! They're very good.💜
* LA Mere ,started w L not M ,my bad ! Lol
It was way back in the late 90's ,I think when I heard of 'em for the very 1st time on tv ,then everywhere in magazines !! Then,I read the ingredients at a department store, I went " The heck !!? There's nothing real good in here !!? How can this work like a miracle everyone's saying !!??" I realized it was just a hype ! That's what celebrities do & the advertisement companies do !!! Lol. The sales person asked me if I wanted to buy it ,I told her exactly these & that was the reason I wouldn't !! Lol. 💜🥁🐉🎤🎶💞
Jen Phelps this is a great video. One thing that you forgot to mention though is that several luxury and prestige brands also have sister drug store brands. Case in point that L’Oreal owns Maybelline, L’Oreal, Urban Decay, Lancôme and Armani makeup. And I’m sure that many influencers know this. And it blows my mind when they act surprised that a L’Oreal foundation is a great dupe for Armani Luminous Silk (of course it is because the same parent company is making it).
This brings to mind La Mer skin care. Almost every Derm MD I’ve watched has said skincare from this brand is (way) overpriced and contains minimal actives. Some people with money to burn really just want to be able to show their wealth by using products like this. This is nothing new, but what IS new is the way in which we can now access very expensive things without actually buying them. When you’re on a McDonalds budget but you see people eating fillet mingon for every meal, you want the pricier item, even though you had previously been quite happy with McDonalds. Before the internet, most people on a budget really didn’t frequent very expensive retailers, so the exposure to the pricier things you don’t have was minimal. Exposure = Covet.
Well said, and so true.
Amen, sister!
People have been able to share their experiences more bc of social media. However, everyone has to stay in their own budget and stick to products that work for them. Use the stuff you have and shop smart. Be financially responsible. Don’t compare your life to others.
Thank you for having this conversation. Wish more beauty channels would follow your lead.
I only get luxury brands if they're running a special deal. Last Christmas I got a Dior gift set for $120. It came with 2 lipsticks, makeup cleanser, facial moisturizer, eye gel, mascara and eye shadow palette, all full size. Plus a Miss Dior perfume mini. Not to mention it was packaged in an attractive reusable case that zipped up, with a handle, I can use after the cosmetics are used up. If I wait until the holidays are over, many retailers put holiday sets on sale for 30% - 70% off.
With high end it's always been about how it makes people feel imo, and it's a bonus if it's actually good. I had NYX pearl pigments in 2010 that had the look of the Patrick Ta shadows.
I think what most people don't realize about Tir Tir and sending expensive gifts to influencers is the difference in culture. In many Asian societies, gifts are a part of the whole sale process, both inexpensive and luxurious. I hope these companies hire advisores that will steer them down the right path.
Having recently tried luxury makeup and skincare, I can see the appeal. Even ordering from a mid-tier brand like Tarte was much nicer than buying from Ulta. My order came beautifully wrapped in a reusable box and came with samples I was not expecting.
I know a lot of people get on Tarte, but I love them too!
I'm willing to pay a little extra for good quality i refuse to waste my money just to buy a name ❤ great vid!
Wow, your son has grown!!
Such an excellent video. I rarely buy hi-end because I find excellent drugstore products. I just don't see the need to buy hi-end especially if brands gift products & trips to people; I wash my face at the end of the day and the makeup products all goes down the drain.
Thank you for being here for me !
😂😂 so true..same as the fancy packaging.... it all goes in the bin afterwards!!👍👍
For brands like Dior and Chanel I’ve always thought that it’s the wildly overpriced cosmetics lines that prop up the Haute Couture division.
When you think about the required margins (to satisfy the investors/shareholders) you can begin to appreciate just how obscene the whole shabby situation is.
As a marketing pro you’ll know that in retail you have one of the following:
High volume/low margin (eg Elf)
Low volume/high margin (eg Patrick Ta)
The holy grail is high volume/high margin. Once you understand that you realise why the brands push push push their stuff out to the “influencers”
Find a product that works for you; pay less attention to the name on the box!
@@stormcloudgathering I do think that both Dior and Chanel eyeshadows are beautiful, and look gorgeous, but I'm not able and or willing to spend that much money on one. Granted if people bought less of everything then it could kind of even out, say if you only owned the one $80.00 palette, as opposed to 7 10.00 dollar ones 🤷 / It's all tied to the 2000's pattern of over consumption, with literally EVERYTHING....
Yes the I find She glam packaging to be higher quality than Dior .
I stopped buying Dior and Chanel, as beautiful as they are, because they are not cruelty-free.
I've missed your Vlogmas intro so much!
I missed it too, haha! I wish I could have it year round. 🥰
I love your holiday background!❤
I'm almost 50 and I have never bought a luxury makeup item. The products, for what they are, are ridiculously priced and none of the are worth my hard earned money. They just will never have that importance to me personally.
"Shop My Stash Advent" is a FANTASTIC idea!!!! I want to do this on my own with my daughter!
One main thing I don’t like about drugstore foundation is the undertones it’s very hard to find one that works for me. High end is better about undertones for pale olive skin. Other than that I like drugstore mostly.
hard agree, i have to look to K beauty as a fair olive. still haven’t found the right formula+shade in a single product for me :(
Have you found a foundation that works for your skin tone? Would you be willing to share what it is?
I agree most drugstore foundations have bad shade ranges and/or undertones that aren't realistic. I'm a fair/light olive and have found a couple of gems though: Maybelline super stay skin tint, shade 118 & Loreal infallible in shade 415.
@@Justaregularoldplumbusyou should try About face in F2oliveor Tarte Foundcealer in 13N.
@@chamorrojen1905 Thanks so much for this info!
Drug store makeup is extremely over priced as well. A mascara pre covid was no more than $12-$14. Now drugstore mascara is up there too , some $20ish. Craziness
💯 agree. I refuse to pay for anything over $15 for drugstore.
@kathrynrady8028 I used to think similarly, but my exceptions are the Covergirl Simply Ageless Perfector Essence and eyeshadow palettes from Juvia's Place (which isn't in drugstores, but is in the drugstore section at Ulta). But I understand your position. Prices are generally too high at the drugstore.
@@oracularpI agree with the Cover Girl products! Their Skin Milk light foundation is incredible! I bought 3 just in case😂
@kcloveonaleash I've definitely bought multiples of good makeup just in case, so I totally get it!
Thank you Jen. I personally do not notice much difference between luxury brands and drugstore brands, except for a few. Thank you for your knowledge, honesty and all the information you spend your time researching and sharing. If people would stop falling for all the hype and purchasing overly-priced brands, things may change in the beauty industry. We can hope and pray! ♥
Oh my goodness!! How your son has grown since last year!!
Yes! He's 5'4"...almost my height and he's only 11. 😭😭
My biggest draw to more luxury makeup is the nuances in shades especially in lipsticks, with some exceptions drugstore lipstick shades tend to be stuck in certain expressions of nude, pink, rose, red etc. luxury brands have more varied shading and being a mid tone cool tone mature skin woman, I can’t do brights or brownish anymore. I often mix two or three shades together to get what I want but touch ups are more complicated 😅
Great subject Jen 🎉
Jen, thanks to you I recently tried the Neutrogena Hydro boost skin tint and I absolutely love it (you had talked about it in a recent video). I have a few high end foundations I plan to use up, and I’m seriously not going to buy them anymore. The hydro boost makes my skin feel like velvet, doesn’t settle into my fine lines, and surprisingly lasts all day on my skin. You are right, the brand is underrated. No, it’s not a “sexy” foundation, but boy is it ever good. Thanks!
I love that one! I just wish it came in more shades!
I got so much hate when I commented about how expensive those Patrick Ta eyeshadows are. It was ridiculous the way women were defending it. I just ordered the Kylie Cosmetics eyeshadow glitter quad that was on sale for 16 dollars on her website. They are just as sparkly. I can't wait to get them.
Uggg, I don't buy Kylie or Kardasian anything.
Me too! I said Patrick got greedy and people defended him saying he needs to put food on the table! Such a distorted view point.
@lynettefinnigan9540 I had never bought anything from them. My niece asked for the fragrance for Christmas. Otherwise, I wouldn't have bothered.
@@Tfe78xv3t they were so nasty. Crazy!
The new ELF glitter eyeshadows for $6 are fire. Very glittery.
I just want products to WORK! Not a fan of paying extravagant amounts for something that I will just wash down the drain. I DO love the Tir Tir, but I use a brush for more natural finish. Still great coverage without the mask feeling. I'm oily skin though. That may make a difference. Maybelline Fit Me matte and poreless and ELF soft glam are my other go-to's. I am so glad there are people like you out there being so willing to talk about these issues!
Your vlogmas is the best part of December ❤. So much truth to all you are saying about luxury products.
Your ability to speak while applying makeup is remarkable!
Drugstore products used to be cheap $10 & under. Now prices are high for drugstore, more than it needs to be. There’s no testers for drugstore products, color range for base products is limited and most of the time can’t find the correct shade. This leads to buying and returning….inconvenient and waste. Drugstore products seem cheaper at initial cost but when you compare the price per amount, most of the time you’re spending equal or more than a high end brand. There are good sets, sales and deals on high end. I find it’s worth it. Most of the products last long so you don’t have to keep repurchasing as often as drugstore.
I won’t spend $20+ on drugstore it’s not worth it and it makes sense to just spend a bit more to get the high end products I enjoy. Some people spend too much money on dupes and it never compare to the real higher priced item…some spend far more than just buying it😂
Hi Jen, I think Revlon Super Lustrous lipsticks rival many high end brands. I enjoy many of Clinique products (foundation, stick blush and lipsticks in Sugar Pop, Bare Pop and Melon Pop)and Estee Lauder lipsticks are nice too. Thanks for the fun video. xoxo, Karen
Yes a lot of luxury makeup is absolutely a scam. You're buying the name/brand in most instances. Also a lot of luxury is more about the packaging verses the actual formula. I stopped buying luxury a few years ago. Also, forgive me if im wrong but doesn't the owners of these luxury brands also own the drug store brands? Because it wolud make sense that the luxury items would hit first and then sometime later, the drugstore would release their own version. I thought that there was a bit of a monopoly going on in the makeup industry where some of the bigger brands owned the drugstore brands.
Edit: this is no shade to anyone who loves to buy luxury and experiencing the luxury experience. Whatever brings you joy is worth it
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe Estee Lauder owns Loreal
Jen’s Vlogmas!!! YEEEEEESSSSS!!!! So excited! 🙌 🎄
Oh my goodness your background! 😍😍🎄🎄
Aw thanks! I had fun setting it up last week. :)
Live the Christmas decorations!
I just want the product to work!
I was listening to this video while doing housework and when I heard your vlogmas music, I instantly got so happy. I look forward to your vlogmas this month!
Luxury/Dept Store makeup is too fragranced for me so I avoided Chanel, Dior, etc. And I do not want sunscreen or actives in my makeup either. Drugstore gas improved their packaging thankfully. I absolutely hate plastic hinges that break & must be held together with a hair tie, lipstick & liner pencils with lids that won't stay on, etc. But now they are using cardboard & sturdier plastic packaging that is sleeker. So as long as the packaging doesn't break, leak, etc it's not a big deal to me. I just want a good product & most of the time I decant & depot & make my own palettes so the packaging isn't that important. It's ease of use & quality that matters.
I ran into Dollar General today and they were literally replacing the Believe beauty end cap with ELF!!!! The clerk said they mailed all the leftover Believe products back to the manufacturer- so Elf is killing it!!!! The only high end product I buy is my Estée Lauder Futurist foundation for my 56 year old skin- all other high end stuff I buy with Christmas and birthday gift cards. The drug store formulas are great nowadays- Thanks for bringing back and updating the Vlogmas!!!! ❤
I would love to hear the story behind that, since the Believe foundation is so universally praised. (but hard to find, which may be the problem)
@ agreed!
One thing I will say about luxury makeup is that the undertones and colors are generally better than drugstore, in my humble opinion. I also don't mind paying a bit more for better quality when I know it will last me a long time.
I get so excited when an affordable product works well and makes me look my best!
I love being able to see how much your son has grown each year. I remember not too long ago he had to hold the banister going down the stairs. ☺️ You share but are still discreet.
Yes! He's growing up so fast! :)
Great conversation! And I love the holiday intro!😊😊
Hey Jen❤ The Xmas intro feels like a Disney show, so calm and soothing to watch!
I have never bought a Patrick Ta product.
I have bought two of the blushes with powder and cream duos and an eyeshadow palette. But to be honest, I don’t reach for them that often. They just aren’t that special and not worth the money. I don’t plan on getting any more.
Me either
The nicest makeup I own is a Haus Labs bronzer. I love it. The texture is lovely. Otherwise I don’t see the point in spending so much money on a disposable product. Skincare might be the exception but I have Clinique and La Roche Posay that do just fine in that department 🤷♀️
OMG! 🥰 the intro has become a tradition. I love it so much!!!!
I'm so happy Henry wanted another dinosaur advent👌🦖🦕
Another great video, Jen! I totally agree with you. We have to be savvy consumers. And the more people are willing to hand over the big bucks for luxury makeup, the higher the prices will go for drugstore too.
And I especially love the idea of using what you have probably forgotten about in your makeup bags as an advent calendar! So fun - especially to see what your son picked out!
Less expensive makeup brands are killing it these days! The only high end product I’ve bought is foundation. I love Dior’s ForeverMatte and Backstage F&B but I mostly wear LOreal foundations for my everyday look.
I agree! 20yrs ago I never bought drugstore foundation. It was always Lancôme or Dior. Now there are so many really good drugstore options that it takes a really special new formula, like the Haus Labs, for me to be willing to spend the extra dollars.
For me, it depends on the product. 99% of the time drugstore works great. Usually it's foundation, powder and sunscreen that I have to go mid to luxury brands.
I watched a study on sunscreen and not all highend was as good as the cheapest. I bought a no-name sunscreen from a supermarket (as I'd forgotten to pack for holiday) I slopped it on everyone and not one of us got one sunburnt anything the whole 2 weeks!! Dirt cheap and best formula ever!! Never found it again though 😢😢😢
That's great that the cheap stuff works for you. I have oily mature skin, and also can only wear mineral sunscreen. Supergoop Matte Mineral sunscreen is the only face sunscreen I can wear that looks good and wears well. Sometimes you just have to pay more for what works.
I love your videos! I have been a professional makeup artist for 24 years, and an esthetician for 20, and I agree you can find phenomenal quality in all price points. Skincare, makeup, and brushes. I think there are brands worth investing in, and some I don’t use in my professional kit. The key benefits of the Laura Mercier powder, is in how finely milled it is so your makeup doesn’t become cakey over the day. I can’t say the same for the Maybelline powder, and you end up using more because it’s clumpier in texture. If you just need it to set for a few hours, not worth the price. But if you need it to last all day, worth every penny. And you use less, so it lasts longer anyway. Also, the new blurring one contains hyaluronic acid spheres, which most powders do not. Helps keep the skin balanced for drier skin types. So in some cases, you get what you pay for in terms of how long you need your makeup to last. Or how infrequently you need to touch up, but I do fully recognize there are drugstore brands that deliver fairly well. Depends on your financial priorities honestly.
There are so many other things I would spend money on. Donate to a food bank, a homeless shelter, the SPCA. I could go on.
Exactly! Wish more people thought like you.
Yes!! I've started to feel icky buying so many things when a lot of people in the world are struggling. I've started using a good portion of my UA-cam earnings to give back to various charities and spend less on makeup.
Adoring the intro, again, still.. And so good to see your son, how big is he already! ❤
I just can't afford luxury makeup, but even if I could, l wouldn't be able to justify those very high prices to myself, among my life circumstances.
If Jen calls it out as BS, then it is so!!!! 💪
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love the way you're keeping it creative while shopping your stash! i feel like 'luxury' makeup has a limiting return on value. if someone wants to pay $40+ on two eyeshadows, that's their prerogative, but i'd rather pay that amount of money knowing that the people who made it were paid a liveable wage, the makeup was made ethically, and that it is an experience. i just hope that inflating these makeup prices doesn't become normalized (as much as they already have been!)
I totally agree with you. Like, i feel like most of the time the price of high end products (skincare, bags, etc.) are marked up and not exactly worth the cost for people with budget. I understand it may be an experience for you, but at the same time it's just an illusion.
I'm new to your channel, and i'm loving your works. Your content stems from consumer's perspective, which i need, as i feel the need to stay away from influence from the people on the internet.
This is such a great video idea but I haven’t even watched it yet because I needed to tell you how happy it makes me to see your Vlogmas intro! 😍❤️ It makes me feel like everything is going to be okay! So comforting. And your son grew so much this year…
It's funny that you did this video now, because I've been thinking about something simular for the past couple of weeks. I watch several influences on you tube and have been thinking WHY with all these expensive products being given out for FREE to certain peoples do we ( the rest of us ) get stuck paying the high prices???
I was thinking the same thing this week!
Oh Christmas tree--yours is gorgeous. Love the feeing of Vlogmas and the little Titmouse birds at the feeder. Looking forward to every video!
I favor drugstore a lot more than luxury, my only issue with luxury is the over extended price. I understand it's gonna cost more, but it shouldn't cost as much as it does. I usually go for the middle of the road for some things, then fill in with drugstore. I love drugstore formulas they have come a very LONG way from what they used to be. I still like to treat myself with high end, but I didn't own any luxury products ATM 💙💙
I buy a mix of drugstore/affordable and high-end cosmetics, but I generally don't touch luxury. Some of the brands are problematic, and most aren't worth the money, especially when the luxury experience seems to me to be disappearing. If I wanted to be mistreated while buying makeup, I'll go to my local Sephora-in-Kohls, dressed down, and in my wheelchair.
I agree with everything you said. But it also depends on what kind of collection you enjoy-I’d rather have three Dior Addict lipsticks than eight lipsticks from the drugstore. The same with Dior bronzers, Hourglass blushes, Guerlain meteorites. I really enjoy the products and packaging and I’d rather have a small collection I can use up.
Hi love how Henry is still involved in Vlogmas..amazing to see how much he has grown.. ok going to watch!!
Thank you for all this valuable information.
I got so excited when I saw it's the beginning of VLOGMAS! Your son has gotten so tall. Time sure does pass in a blink of an eye!
It sure does! Another inch and he'll be as tall as I am.
@JenPhelps I hope your family had a wonderful Thanksgiving ❤️
I prefer no fragrance personally on my face.
You created a great look with your selections, Jen! They match nicely with the lip product your son picked out. What a great idea for an advent calendar! I agree with your thoughts completely. You put together a comprehensive, well thought out video about overpriced makeup.
Yay! Vlogmas with Jen! 😃⛄️
I have a mix of high end and drugstore. There are so many great drugstore products out there!
Hey have you tried any of the Olay super serums? They’re pricey so I’ve been reluctant to buy and I haven’t really seen any reviews on them. Just curious if you’ve tried any of them.
I have to admit to falling for the luxury brands for some of my makeup collection. I remember the first Lancome eyeliner and mascara I purchased. It was so gorgeous and I really felt that the products were "better". Drug store makeup was so blech at this time (early 90's) and for years I was happy with the Lancome, MAC, Estee Lauder products. Today, I have a mix of drug store and high end. I know I can trust your channel to point me in the right direction !!
I love that your son made you an advent calendar out of products that you already own! Great idea!
🌸🌸🌸Patrick Ta is NOT a ‘luxury brand’…..Dior, Chantecaille, Hermes, Tom Ford, those are ‘luxury’ brands and like them or not, you know you will be paying a premium for them (worth it or not). But it’s when the middle ground (what used to be called ‘high end’ )…..Urban Decay, TooFaced, ND, PT start to creep up that you see greed and or inflation start to really bother people. That coupled with the PT horrible swatches and PT’s video is when most of us drew the line, ESPECIALLY when you can get a Colourpop super shock product that looks even better! Personally I LOVE Dior, they have a great reward program and great samples and GWP’s! Great video Jen!🌸🌸🌸
"Luxury" is a term in flux right now. I'd say Ta is luxury by being priced the way it is and the materials used, particularly now that the luxury experience in stores and at makeup counters is disappearing. Rest assured, that doesn't mean I'm buying Ta's products, but these days, it seems hard to pin down a definition for luxury, and to me, Ta is in that nebulous space. However, like most luxury products, I'm not buying. High-end and drugstore are fine for me.
@ appreciate your view but disagree with you in regards to luxury. Like PT, you just can’t be in one space then decide you want to be in the next without proving it, know what I mean?
@rree4551 I don't. Luxury seems very arbitrary to me, especially these days, as that luxury experience is eroding.
@@oracularp to each their own love, enjoy this beautiful day and holiday season with your loved ones 🌸🌸🌸
I like to try out different things and see what works for me.
I can't say I have the budget for luxury makeup but once in a while I like to treat myself and I discovered things that I enjoy, like the Givenchy KissKiss lip oil is amazingly hydrating, nourishing and long lasting for my sensitive lips, works way better than Ole H. or Summer Fridays but I use different things for different purposes.
I 😍 Dior blushes. I prefer to have 2 Dior blushes that work great for my skin (especially cause I don't wear foundation nor skin tint) than have 10 drugstore blushes that end up in a trash and all together cost more than 2 Dior blushes on discount.
Drugstore has also some gems, like Essence Make Me Glow Baked highlighter, performs like high end.
It's important to be mindful and buy makeup that you will use and enjoy and works for you in the end of the day💜.
Jen. I am a drugstore girl and do not give a crap about Patrick Ta. HOWEVER. I am a formula girl like you and Amanda Z. Amanda Z got the shade Still at the Club and has said it is the MOST WET LOOKING taupe eyeshadow in her entire collection. Beating out the old winner Urban Decay lithium, Hourglass smoke, chantecaille and victoria beckham Mink. So far she is the only influencer i’ve seen say this, and she’s the only one i’ve seen try the taupe shade. Theresa is Dead, Angie, and others who have bought the Talk to My Team shade or any lighter shades have said they are average and dupable. The taupe seems to be where it’s at!!! i am dying to swatch it in sephora and see if Amanda is right, but sadly my sephora doesn’t carry it yet. i would love to hear your review of it and compare to other famously wet looking taupe shadows. Like Amanda, i am picky about sparkle and seek not only a shiny shimmer but a truly wet, blinding light sparkling on the water look. Ritz and judydoll seem to have it but i want a taupe :)
Ooh that sounds beautiful! I have heard that there's a discrepancy between some of the shades in the duos. Some are more glittery than others.
@@JenPhelpsheard the same thing Jen!
This is the most honest beauty influencer video I've seen.
I like a lot of drugstore makeup with a little luxury mixed in. Or maybe more so “high end” such as Natasha Denona for example. I do however own the Gucci bronzer and have no regrets. On the flip side I also love the Nyx bronzers too!
Omg your son has grown so much in 1 year!
Yes! He's 5'4"...almost my height. He must have grown several inches since last year.😭😭
Omg, your son is huge!!! So cool to see him grow up . Love the vlogmas 🎉
Love this video and your take on this. I was also like why is everybody jumping onto Patrick Ta when Urban Decay (and others) have been charging $20+ for single shadows all this time? Like I'm not out here defending him but I did think it was weird that he was getting so much hate for doing stuff other brands do.
I love your holiday introductions
I love your idea of a DIY advent calendar!! I might get my 4 year old to do that for me 😅
Oh Jen! I’m so happy to hear the music and see your boys back as he grows❤ I love my PT duo, but also love my ELF😂
You are totally right! That's why I love to listen to videos about drugstore makeup and dupes for luxury products. I will never pay for a name of a brand or a for a luxury packaging that you are going to throw away anyway when the product is empty. I would feel robbed! I bought rephr brushes during the black friday week to try them for the first time and omg what are they good! That's quality! On cybermonday I re-ordered immediately other brushes because they are really THE BEST brushes I ever tried! But I will never pay the full price! I notice that a lot of people become more aware of everything and that's a good sign! Thank you that you are part of it!!! 👍🙏💋❤️
I loved this video!
Great job, Jen.❤
Thank you.
Just support small indie brands their quality is superior and they don’t have to pay for expensive marketing.
I really enjoy using products with formulas and in colors that work FOR me, and I can definitely find that at the drugstore level. For example, I find that Physican's Formula and anything they make with their "butter formula" works well for my now 50-year-old skin. I started with the bronzer, but I love the blushes and eyeshadows as well! Something about that formula seems to melt into my skin helping to hide dryness and wrinkles unlike other powdered makeup would. I also really enjoy many things from Milani and ELF.
I find no reason to venture into high-end, and I don't have the means to regardless, LOL! That said, I don't feel as though I'm missing out on anything either. Honestly, you could stick to just these three lines and find anything you might need from makeup to skincare to brushes/tools. Add a bit of experience with some learned techniques using colors that work FOR YOU no matter the trends, and you're set! You really CAN enjoy makeup without feeling deprived if you focus on what works for you and choose not to get lost in the noise of hupe and marketing. Have a fun and beautiful day, y'all! 💄🎄
Love this video I am 60 yrs young love drug store brands have very dry skin however this year bought lots of high end makeup I mean lots as I felt I may be missing out. However I discovered that my drug store makeup won hands down. Have been subscribed to your channel from the start love your honesty and delivery. Watching from Ireland
I'm so excited to see you every day!!! 😍I like both drugstore and luxury equally. I couldn't afford luxury for a long time, and now that I can, I find I'm gravitating more toward it.
I've asked my daughter for the new lisa eldridge lipstick for Xmas . I would not buy it for myself lol
The only brand I will pay that kind of money for now is Mob beauty palette because i can customise it and replace individual shades. It comes out to be far cheaper and easier to manage.
I travel a lot so it makes it easy to throw in one pallet, a mascara, lip product, and an eyebrow pencil, and a few brushes. I believe a complete pallet starts at $110
I'm not brand loyal at all! The only time a high end brand gets my money is a unique color story or an innovative product. Even so, if another brand dupes it for less, that's literally where i switch up.
Thank you Jen!! We can rely on you to research and reveal the fictions created by the beauty industry.
Your presentation is always so delightful as are you!🥰🥰
Merry Christmas!🎄 ❤️
Thank you Jen for making this video. Especially this time of the year when people are unfortunately going in debt for all these overpriced items. I completely agree with you on everything!!!! You are a trillion percent right on target in my opinion. much love 🤗🫶💕
5:03 Jen I have to share! I’ve been watching you use the NYX Lift and Snatch forever & have just stuck to my NYX Micro pencil and Elf Brow wow thinking it would be too hard to make those tiny lines. Well it’s on sale at Ulta & picked some up yesterday & put it on this morning and 😮WOW do my brows look better than ever! Thank you for the recommendation ❤
That's amazing!! I felt the same way when I first tried to use it but I was surprised by how easy it was. And it just keeps getting easier the more you use it. 🥰
@ I went slow and it was fine and with practice it will get better. So thrilled! Been wanting to try it forever! 💜 you always have such great recs.
Great video! All of the points you highlighted seem spot on. I don’t buy luxury makeup or even middle of the road makeup (usually) so it’s mostly drugstore. I’ve been quite happy with it. I think you really hit the nail on the head when you said that most people care about what the makeup looks like and how it performs when you apply and wear it. And there is a drugstore dupe or alternative for almost every luxury product on the market. The colorpop super shock shadow was an excellent example! There is something to be said for the experience of buying luxury (if you choose to buy from places that actually give you the experience) while I don’t purchase luxury makeup, I do tend to favor luxury fragrances. Thankfully I don’t go through them fast! And I like diamonds. So ever so often my husband and I will be at the jewelers getting my rings cleaned or sized or what have you, and he will surprise me with something new. I like that experience 😊 ok I wrote a book sorry! Love the vlogmas and having Henry choose your makeup advent countdown was a fantastic idea! Love it! Hope you have a great week! Hugs 💖
Thank you so much for your video. Its crazy to see your son growing up! Anyway. I was a drugstore only kind of girl when that's all I could afford. I always wanted to experience the luxury side of things (Not LaMer level). But I can now afford it. My kids are grown and I can live my best life. So I have Dior, Chanel, YSL, but I also have my drugstore. So now that I have experienced the things that were on my wish list, I now know what I like and what I don't want to spend my hard earned money on. I do now find that I favor some drugstore foundations/skincare, and midrange brands. But I do look differently at ALL brands (especially skincare) now that I have been educated on ingredients. I love the discussions in the comments.
I refuse to spend hard earned money, on high end make up. I just want make up the "does its job."
Great show. Very insightful and well thought out.
Drugstore makeup also needs to be called out as their pricing is climbing, too.
I love the shop my stash advent calendar idea 🎄
This was a VERY informative video!! Thank you! ❤
Chanel water-fresh tint is the only thing my skin loves, and there's no dupe for this. And I totally understand why I am paying such ridiculous price. But will buy it again and again :)