Jay-Z switched up his flow on Reasonable Doubt after Nas dropped Illmatic. Before that he was still doing that Das Efx, Fu Schnickens fast rhyming scheme that he was doing with Jaz O.
+Brian Tim omg man where'd you come up with that original theory? fascinating, never heard that before. thanks for bringing such new insights and clarity to a situation.
Litterally everyone switched his style around that time becaise the style you mentioned wasnt working anymore, tbh you can say nas copied jay mafioso genre when he went into the firm and it would make more sense
what does AZ have to do Jay-Z, I am talking Nas and Jay-Z, Jay went to that area first, that is a fact, If Nas didn't take anything from jay ? then why are so hypocritical and say that Jay took something with Nas like he invented the flow Jay switched to.
@@Maal7432 They all got on that mafioso shit because of Rae and Ghost...including Nas Cuban Linx made most of the big rappers in NY start takin on whole other personas wantin to do the mafioso shit. Nas went from the street poet to "Nas Escobar"...Jay went from the street fast rap nigga to black don. Biggie went from a corner boy on Ready To Die to Frank White on Life After Death
@@scarfacemmm Bruh Reasonable Doubt came out deadass like a week before It Was Written Jay didn't "do it first" lmao, they were prolly recording they albums round the same time. Truth is they both were influenced by OB4CL
Jayz had been out for 7 years and hadn't sold a record until TUPAC dissed him on Makeveli and it still took reasonable doubt another 7more years to go platinum, Jay z was put on position by the powers that be to be the next great rapper , they bought and invested into that garbage to kick off his career and made Jay z a buisness , the industry created Jay-Z.
"Jigga that Nigga" - dude took Snoop's lines: "slim with the tilted brim....." And Snoop was really popping at that time. Jay is a damn follower. Dame held his hand most of his career. Jay even switched his flow up when Beanie got down with the Team.
That killed me on the "Blueprint", where this dude Jay-Z is getting at Nas on one track, and on "Never Change" he says "from the womb to the tomb, from now to my doom, drink army from one cup, pass it around the room". That was a Nas lyric from "Verbal Intercourse" with Raekwon and Ghost.
yaiqab that funny bruh cause the only part i heard that he took was from the "womb to the tomb" the rest was all his and like hov said before he made it a hot line i made it a hot song if you can call 4 words copying
John Collins Bruh I'm not going to go back and forth with you, because it's not that serious lol. The dude copied the entire line, and he's been doing that his entire career, which has been over since "Ether". From that point, he sold out Dash and joined up with the people who keep him relevant to this day. If he's your hero, cool story. The brotha is talented, but he's a thief as well.
Theres alot of misconceptions around Jay-z outselling Nas. First off, Illmatic(1994) outsold Reasonable doubt(1996) in first week sales, 63k to 43k. It was written(1996) nas's second album was SUPER hyped, they put mad production into that, it sold 275,000 first week. Jay'z's second album, In my lifetime volume 1(1997), only sold 138k first week. Jay-z didnt beat these numbers until his third album in 1998... Also, Nas Debut on the US billboard top 200 number 1 spot, before jay-z. Nas was number 1 on the billboards in 96, Jay-z didnt reach that till 98. (edit) Nas was the real king of New York in the 90s, ask anyone who was around. Jayz didnt start popping off heavy till the late 90s and 2000s when hiphop was dieing and shit was starting to get wack, thats why jay-z's lifetime sales are alot higher, but when shit first went down, the culture was different, and Nas was huge in the early mid 90s, even like older people liked nas caus he was intelligent and dressed lowkey gangsta with those flat hats to the side and shit, the type raekwon and mainly biggie wuld rock, those died out u rarely see anyone rocking those ever, i aint talking fitteds. Nas was the better rapper in just about everyones eyes i knew. The battle of the best mc of the 90s in NY was between biggie and Nas, not jay z.
@@1traphistory the internet now lets us see how everyone felt, but this is how the hiphop world kingdom felt lol. NYC was literally like the rome of hiphop during that era. Like, its cool you feel that way but thats not how the majority felt, and new york has alot of people. Jay z remained relevant longer, and i think Beyonce helped that also, putting his face on tabloids at the supermarket and stuff, jay z became a totally different type of icon. Nas was more about representing New york also a bit, while jay Z cared more about just talking money. Both good artists but, the question of jay z being better than nas wasnt really up for discussion pre 2005. Everyone knew Nas was better, i remember the early limewire days and people would sometimes debate it. But now you have alot of people who just, werent around during that era, take in what they see now and judge it for what it is. And thats what most people do who compare them nowadays, they dont look up actual stats or sales or anything. They just run with something they heard that reinforces what they beleive or whatever.
@@profo4544 I was around then, and you are kind of proving my point. Both had NY because they from there but Jay elevated pass Nas because of national exposure. A lot of times, especially back then NY cats had on blinders and only knew about NY shit. I’m telling you down south Juvey’s 400 Degrees was THE album at that time. When Jay jumped on that Ha remix it put him on the map down here and when he worked with UGK it only solidified him more. Nas was cool and all but street niggas down south saw him as backpacky believe it or not. If I Ruled the World was probably his first song to get radio spin down south. A few hip hop heads like myself knew about AZ and the rest but Nas should have expanded his reach. People can debate who’s better but the success of Jay compared to Nas is not debatable and I feel that was the reason
@@1traphistory Jay z never had "NY" like you think though, thats the confusion here. Theres a story about nas getting out a car in manhattan and people walking up to him and calling him the king, from the drop of illmatic to 97, some say till 2001 even, nas was the king of NY hands down, there was no discussion. Jay z never had new york on lock like that, by the time jay z blew like he did new york changed a little so did the hiphop scene, he didnt have that Who the hell is this dude factor either, alot of people knew who he was caus he would run around as a fan of biggies crew and, theres a pic of him before he blew and hes rocking a notorius shirt at the table wit nas. Nas blew out of nowhere and way earlier than jay, so by the time jay z blew up nas had mad stuff on him about how he was a clown thats why nas killed him so bad on ether, caus jay z ran around up everyones ass before he blew. But, Jay z never had new york like that, just because he has a song new york, new york doesnt mean anything. You think real heads were listening to someshit like that ? cmon dude. But yeah i jus wanna correct that, he didnt have new york like you think he did, and alot of people must think this, like he was rolling around as the king of NY, he wasnt maybe nowadays he acts like he is but when the hiphop scene was in its prime he wasnt. He also likes to try to say he started the yankee fitted, thats some BS to, WE new yorkers and new york kids started the yankee fitted, when the won there first world series in 1996 when Jeter was a rookie. Everyone and there mom had a new york yankees jerseys and fitteds on. That was the year the yankees first started there Dynasty and became what they are today.. They won in 96, 98, 99, 2000. After the first win in 96' that hat exploded. Anyone rocking one pre 96 knew what was good.
@@profo4544 I didn’t mean it like he was the king of NY. I agree with you, what I meant was that he was known in NY. Y’all listened to Reasonable Doubt, everybody else was introduced to Jay by The Blueprint. We knew y’all loved Nas because of the same reason we wasn’t feeling Nas all that tuff…he was too NY. Early on specifically
Everyone listen to Camron - Swagger Jacker on UA-cam. Camron been exposed Jayz for stealing biting rhymes, it's sickening how much he took when u listen to it 4 realz
marksuave25 It is something that most rappers do....to an extent. However, when you make a living off biting beats and lyrics, then that makes the accusations by some of him being a fraud that much more credible.
MICHAEL SOWELL at what point do we give a person credit? In that song showing how cam bit a lot of songs and other artist And was accusing jay of doing it he looks like a hypocrite. But even with that being said, cam is a talented rapper, I don't really like him, but he is talented nonetheless. No one here can take that away from any of these rappers. They have talent, give them credit. Jay has talent, even if what karceno is true, something about jayz made those songs hits, where as the "originals" didn't.
I would never bite people's rhymes, lines and bars. That's just not my style. I focus on my own life and my own style.. my own lane!! I write my own shit !!
nas killed Jay with that either. And this dude is on point Jay z has stolen from alot of artist, he stole lyrics and songs from biggie, 2pac, and alot of others
***** DOA and PSA were follow ups to a couple of Buckshot songs. Jay-Z is the reason Black Moon had to redo certain songs cause Beatminerz would make a beat and Jay would find someone else to make the same beat so he could make a twist and put it out first. Buckshot talks about this on Juan Epstein.
North Trenton New Jersey He did that to capture the west coast audience attention. To give them that I respect the west type of vibe. Plus the chorus was so simple that elderly people was singing it
This video is legendary and confirms why I never liked Gay Z. He always stole work from people and built it up on lies and betrayal. The falling out with Dame and Kanye was never incidental" or "accidental". He's a shrewd thief. Drake should learn a thing or two from his idol.
Honestly, on "hustler baby" (I think it was called "I just wanna Luv Y") Jay Z was syncing the hook, but Pharrel I believe was the one who sang it. Same as when Pharrel was on Mystikal's "Shake it fast." However, I could be wrong. They sound the same. However, "Gimme that stuff that sweet that nasty that gushy stuff" is a sample off an old song by Rick James "Give it to me." Whether it was sampled, I don't know.
I knew of his thievery back when he was bitting Biggie. Kanye won't be able to leave RocNation without drawback because Jay needs him on the team, imagine if Kanye left Jay & teamed up with someone else like Lil Wayne or someone else, he could make them as prominent as this version of Jay Z is...
I never fucked with Jay anyways i know he's great with the rhymes but his music doesn't move me. For one i don't like his voice and his subject matter is supposed to be interesting but he makes it boring. I'll stick to Nas & Pac.
First of all I've always said check Jay-z resume the streets have a completely different story about him. Then check his music resume Jay-z whole career he's been switching up he stole Jaz-O's style ,& Jaz-O made Jay-z. During the early 90's Jay-z had a different flow he had to change his flow. Jay-z has stepped on everyone else's back to get to where he is.
And other rappers that are considered great didn't have to necessarily have to do that (biting, not paying homage) to get on their own two feet. In other words, get known to the public eye. Which is the rap world.
Cam'ron got at Hov on "Let Me Know" on the low. That's why Hov never liked Cam or Dipset even when Dame signed them to Rocafella. Everyone think that song was just about Drag On "NY must stop bitin and start writin, when the fuck we start bouncin". Hov ain't even want to jump on that "Welcome to NYC" track.
Bro, I been debating this exactly my whole life. Jay-Z is so un-authentic, how all the people he battled he then stole from like Pac and Nas, where’s the decency? Kanye’s influence is heavily understated, he’s fake as hell. On top of all of that, he’s still not relatable, he doesn’t come close to top 5.
Don't forget Bonnie and Clyde which originally was created and written by "Tupac". He than released the track years later..acting like he created the song originally. If Pac was alive he would destroy him for that
my only problems with Jay is that he hopped on the wave of every hot new nigga. Ja, 50, Dmx, em, kendrick, drake, TI etc. then act like he adding to their buzz. no nigga they adding to your buzz. and how he claims king of ny. biggie had the crown. him and nas battled for it and nas one. on top of that Ja, DMX and 50 all having their moments as top dog in NY.
Word Jay doesn't have originality. He went from sounding like Dax Efx and Fu Schnickens pre Reasonable Doubt, to sounding like Camp-Lo on REASONABLE DOUBT, then using Sauce Money's flow on Volume 1 In My Lifetime, then using Young Chris Style on Blueprint 1, to then Jacking J Cole style and look
I remember when Reasonable Doubt first hit the streets before the official release. My best friend and I are the only 2 that had it in the area I was in. I was still in like elementary/junior high school. We had the cassette and for a while and we didn't even know it was a album. We thought it was a mixtape lol.
He pretty much followed Elvis Presley and all those people who used to steal from those great artists. I think they say he’s the goat is because of all the awards and records sold. But to me LL and even nas should be considered ny goat. Plus the Media pushes him like Vince McMahon would push his number one wrestler who ever that may be
The blueprint was the last album of Jay z that I listened to . Reasonable doubt came out in 96 and was hot . Timing does alot and he had great timing. He was the last of the great rappers so he got all the accolades. Once he became mainstream things changed just like they do for everyone else. We're would he be now on the todum if pac was here biggie was here bigL , Big Pun . Everybody loves you when you coming up but when you make it they hate you ..
"Public Service Announcement" off the Black Album: "allow me to reintroduce myself, my name is HOV, H to the O.V....." Anyone remember Digital Underground? Shock G as Humpty Hump on "Humpty Dance"? "allow me to reintroduce myself, my name is humpty, pronounce with an umpty...." You catch my drift. same damn pattern. But he's the G.O.A.T. huh? NO. LL COOL J is. LOL BTW, Shock G was one of the most creative artists that ever did it. From the beats to the concepts. DU was ahead of their time. I GOT A QUESTION!!!! Who else can put on a disguise and be 2 different people and create a whole new lane off a character? Hmmm, Hmmmm? If it won't for Digital Underground, there would be no 2Pac. Yea...I just said that.
SO by your rational that humpty CHARACTER was the 1st person in world history to say "allow me to reintroduce my self. ". LOL Don't you know that there is nothing new under the sun. Every thing has been done before the question is can you add a new variation to it. that's what makes it art. Smh lol
His a great rapper man an you be hard pressed to find a rapper who didn't sample off somebody. Thats like saying biggie Smalls bit off LL cool j because they both had a song called " going back to Cali" NAS sample OFF BIG RAKEM, slick rick, and others but because Jay is more successful he is the bad guy. Lol
Doesn't matter. If half your best bars hooks and concepts are from other rappers HE CAN'T BE THE GOAT' You cant say he was just idolizing biggie' was he just paying homage to the other 2 dozen rappers too; and there is even way more stuff he bit' check out PT 2. Nas is the GOAT its no longer up for debate' and Nas KD3 release put the nail in JayZs coffin as GOAT' Hands down. Nas now got a bigger and better catalog, more number one hit albums' Nas is GOAT no more debating it. Nas ain't a rapper Stop callin him that He is a bible book Nas is a prophet on tracks
Totally agree with every word on this video. Jay Z is the most overrated rapper walking. He owes everything to Dame Dash who put him in a position where he was surrounded by talented people. He cant write a song he just jumps on other peoples hot tracks and gets the credit. If he wasnt married to Beyonce he would of been forgotten ten years ago. Total garbage. Any track thats been popping has been someone elses
Actually bruh "Give it to me" was stolen from Omillio Sparks from State Property. He heard him spitting the hook for one of his tracks w Oschino and Hov swooped in like nah this shit is dope im using this. He's Jay-Z, so nobody argued wit him. That's why Omillio is on the hook.
Speakin that truth! I didn’t even know some of these songs were stolen, i just have a bad taste from the Mystikal joint and all the post mortem Big L and Biggie bars.
dont think jayz got his name from jazz o.. that would be stupid.. jay was a bk dude but always came across as a harlem dude, he loved them harlem hustlers.. aye body was naming their selves with a z behind they name or adding po for alpo and Az ...thats where he get the name from..
Im a Jay fan and even i know and have seen when Jay says it himself!!!! He got his name from Jaz that was the big homie it use to be Jazzy! Actually then he flipped a bit as years went on and styles changed.Where you been at?
Factz Can I get A was Ja Rules joint, he jacked it, the New York, joint with Alisha Keys was her joint, he jacked it from her, the Excuse me Ms record hook is Jacked from a Joint on State property's 1st album called Mommy do u want me (Young Chris verse), he stole young chris whole flow (factz), that give it to me song was actually sparks joint from state property, jay said give it to me lmao, I need that lmao, Izzo record took snoop slang, fa sizzle my nizzle Iike snoop had just started saying it and Jay said lemme get that lmao and the list goes on, this is very accurate sir
Because I was gon fuck Solange in the ass but Jay hated on some that's his Lil sister in law shit Solange got mad and started stolin' on the nigga but Jay my man tho we still kool
Jay Z fully took me and my Girlfriend from 2Pac. LMFAO XD. Pac he same guy who said fuck Jay Z before knowing he was gonna die. Jay Z got down on 1 knee to KISS Pac`s Ring on that 1. Same Pac who said fuck Jay Z before he died lol.
Damn Bro! I do have to agree with you on this shit! Jayz has been stealing and biting rhymes from day one, don't get me wrong I'm not trying to step on a niggas hussel but to be called the greatest rapper of all time! I don't think so come on now lets keep it real Jayz is a "BRAND" that's what we buy into, that's just what we do as fan's we are buying the "BRAND" just like Nike! it's not all about the sneaker it's all about the million dollar nigga that's wearing them! M.J. it's the "BRAND" not the shoe trust me no the court I've put flames to a niggas ass with a pair of skipys on and old dude was Nike from head to toe! so don't get it twisted it's just a "BRAND". I'm out 6'9inc
Better than that trash we have now. These dudes can't even rap, it's all about hooks. This young dude was saying that Rick Ross was nice and I told him that he's all about nice hooks and beats. I tried to tell him about Redman, O.C. et al and he was lost.
Vol. 1 wasn't his best album but it had some of the best Hov songs ever. That's one of my personal favorite albums. The few weak songs messed up that album in my opinion. As dope as Vol. 2 was, commercially, I hardly ever listen to that album. Vol. 2 is like Hov's version of Nas's I Am album. But yeah Hov did steal a lot. Even though he's one of fav of all time you can't argue that he stole a lot from others. The examples you gave aren't all stolen though because you can't fault him for having similiar beats/samples as other hit records. If you listen to any rap radio station today for a hour you'll hear at least 5-7 songs that sound exactly the same. I think Hov being the greatest is debatable even with everything he stole. He has a LOT of material. Not too many rappers have the amount of classics he have.
Bro, u cant compare Volume 2 to I AM.. first off I AM is very underrated because it was compared to Nas first 2 classic albums. Also Vol 2 Jay barely has any songs without guest appearances. Nas has some guest appearances on I AM but nevertheless, it is all Nas. And finally, the bottom line is that I AM is waaaaay better than Vol 2!
Like Jay-Z has bars, but not that many, that's why he steals raps. If you peep, Jay-Z won't have 3 16s every song like a Nas, Tupac, Eminem, or Biggie would...they can spit forever and ever. A lot of Jay songs just be having a long ass hook
Shit u mentioned Young Chris, He stole Young Chris flow too lmao. A lot of ppl say they sound alike (like Chris biting off of him) but Hov heard it and definitely ran w it...but it's Hov so what Chris was gonna say? He thought he'd be in the loop w Hov. That's why i laughed when ppl said Hov flamed weezy on "watch what you say to me" talking about stealing flows...his wasnt original in the first place lol.
After watching this video I lost a lot of respect for Jay-Z why do people consider him to be the goat when he stole a lot of people rhymes he even stole Nas rhymes when he was beefing with Nas so sad and lazy it's funny how he even bit Jazzo's name I have no respect for Jay-Z
To respond to the title of the video... Duuuuhhh - "...From Sean Carter to Jay-Z damn u on Jazz dick!" Jayz has made a career of being a hack... Smart business man but he always came up off of other people. But hell, the USA has done that its whole career too... Good ish -
unfortunately Jay Z is not the only one who steal hooks or bite lyrics. I think since he still around that's why people starting to notice more. At least the older crowd.
Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz! Good shit cuz, I been saying this for years that Jay z do too many Collaborations, me and my boy would always argue about who was a better rapper DMX or Jay Z OF COURSE I SAID DMX LMAO! But good shit Karceno
Damn they bit that Round Here by Bleek too!!! Stole that concept & hook from a southern rapper name Chop Dezol & put Trick Daddy & T.I on it!!! Chop was trying to sign with them at the time!!!
Jay-Z is an above average MC but not the best. The reason why he has the wealth he has is mostly by the behind the scenes work of Dame Dash and Burke. Have you ever heard Jay-Z in interviews? Do you think he is the mastermind behind Roc a Wear and Roc a Fella Records? Was he responsible for Camron's success? Jay-Z always talk about album sales but the truth is that Def Jam was known to buy hundreds of thousands of copies of their artist's albums to inflate the album sale numbers, resulting in their artist going platinum in combination with the actual album sales. A lot of Jay-Z platinum albums actually sold around 500,000 units. You can thank Def Jam and Dame Dash for most of Jay-Z success.
I remember when jay z stole overnight scenario... Rare essence is a gogo band from maryland. They was the SHIT. I know they was hot when he did that😳smh. I remember. Ida sued that clown too.
+OhShay lol. The lyrics mentions her dad and then mom..... and then the making of her the creation. a formation. lol makes sense then talking about how she dressing lol
pretty weak points = JAY Z HEARD A BEAT HE LIKED AND PAID $30K ON THE SPOT FOR IT. so what? = THIS DOES NOT MAKE HIM A BITER JAY Z HAD LOTS OF GUEST SPOTS ON HIS VOL. 2 ALBUM. so what?= IT CAME OUT IN 1999. MASTER P WAS THE BIGGEST ARTIST IN THE INDUSTRY THEN, HE SIMPLY DID WHAT WAS TRENDY IN THE INDUSTRY. MASTER P HAD TWO GUESTS ON EVERY SONG.
lol, first off be accurate when complaining, Dame bought the beat jay was broke. Vol.2 had a ton of guess appearances. You never addressed the fact of his stealing.
Karceno4Life thanks for addressing rare essence over night scenario. it sound harder than jayz version. teddy riley heard go go and created the new jack swing the sound you hear in all hip hop today
Jay z is not a biter, he is a straight up theif
Hahahahaha
Truth he's a thief
facts! and that's one of the few reasons that he aint in my Top 5. But Top 10
So is his wife
Jay-Z switched up his flow on Reasonable Doubt after Nas dropped Illmatic. Before that he was still doing that Das Efx, Fu Schnickens fast rhyming scheme that he was doing with Jaz O.
+Brian Tim omg man where'd you come up with that original theory? fascinating, never heard that before. thanks for bringing such new insights and clarity to a situation.
Litterally everyone switched his style around that time becaise the style you mentioned wasnt working anymore, tbh you can say nas copied jay mafioso genre when he went into the firm and it would make more sense
what does AZ have to do Jay-Z, I am talking Nas and Jay-Z, Jay went to that area first, that is a fact, If Nas didn't take anything from jay ? then why are so hypocritical and say that Jay took something with Nas like he invented the flow Jay switched to.
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They all got on that mafioso shit because of Rae and Ghost...including Nas
Cuban Linx made most of the big rappers in NY start takin on whole other personas wantin to do the mafioso shit. Nas went from the street poet to "Nas Escobar"...Jay went from the street fast rap nigga to black don. Biggie went from a corner boy on Ready To Die to Frank White on Life After Death
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Bruh Reasonable Doubt came out deadass like a week before It Was Written
Jay didn't "do it first" lmao, they were prolly recording they albums round the same time. Truth is they both were influenced by OB4CL
Jayz had been out for 7 years and hadn't sold a record until TUPAC dissed him on Makeveli and it still took reasonable doubt another 7more years to go platinum, Jay z was put on position by the powers that be to be the next great rapper , they bought and invested into that garbage to kick off his career and made Jay z a buisness , the industry created Jay-Z.
Damn
Most definitely. I totally agree sis.
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@@TaybeenTrill248 *Fact
Love You So True Jay Z Wack Ecept Vol 2
"Jigga that Nigga" - dude took Snoop's lines: "slim with the tilted brim....."
And Snoop was really popping at that time. Jay is a damn follower. Dame held his hand most of his career. Jay even switched his flow up when Beanie got down with the Team.
I use to think jay z was the shit until I start listening to Nas for the first time
Not to mention all the careers Jay-Z has ruined with his insecurity and jealousy
Which caters has he ruined
@@phihlellotheone8979 Jay z hated on DMX and snaked him when he became president at Def Jam.
@@phihlellotheone8979 X joebudden all of state prop dame dash jaz-o biggie dead big L dead foxy
That killed me on the "Blueprint", where this dude Jay-Z is getting at Nas on one track, and on "Never Change" he says "from the womb to the tomb, from now to my doom, drink army from one cup, pass it around the room". That was a Nas lyric from "Verbal Intercourse" with Raekwon and Ghost.
he was just stealing again
yaiqab that funny bruh cause the only part i heard that he took was from the "womb to the tomb" the rest was all his and like hov said before he made it a hot line i made it a hot song if you can call 4 words copying
John Collins
Bruh I'm not going to go back and forth with you, because it's not that serious lol. The dude copied the entire line, and he's been doing that his entire career, which has been over since "Ether". From that point, he sold out Dash and joined up with the people who keep him relevant to this day. If he's your hero, cool story. The brotha is talented, but he's a thief as well.
Bruh name one alive rapper that didn't steal a lyric from someone...but your right it's not that deep
John Collins
No mainstream, high level rapper has done it on the level of this dude, especially in the late 90's.
I've been telling people for years that Jay-Z's overrated. Yes he can rhyme but his talent base is originated off uncreated activities.
He is overrated
@@tumishomogano1574 facts I know alot if rappers better than him underground or known better than him foreal
Shit Jeezy is worse he bites lines from Tupac all day
Theres alot of misconceptions around Jay-z outselling Nas. First off, Illmatic(1994) outsold Reasonable doubt(1996) in first week sales, 63k to 43k. It was written(1996) nas's second album was SUPER hyped, they put mad production into that, it sold 275,000 first week. Jay'z's second album, In my lifetime volume 1(1997), only sold 138k first week. Jay-z didnt beat these numbers until his third album in 1998... Also, Nas Debut on the US billboard top 200 number 1 spot, before jay-z. Nas was number 1 on the billboards in 96, Jay-z didnt reach that till 98. (edit) Nas was the real king of New York in the 90s, ask anyone who was around. Jayz didnt start popping off heavy till the late 90s and 2000s when hiphop was dieing and shit was starting to get wack, thats why jay-z's lifetime sales are alot higher, but when shit first went down, the culture was different, and Nas was huge in the early mid 90s, even like older people liked nas caus he was intelligent and dressed lowkey gangsta with those flat hats to the side and shit, the type raekwon and mainly biggie wuld rock, those died out u rarely see anyone rocking those ever, i aint talking fitteds. Nas was the better rapper in just about everyones eyes i knew. The battle of the best mc of the 90s in NY was between biggie and Nas, not jay z.
One move that I believe pushed Jay past Nas was that Jay went down south early on a collabed with UGK and Juvy.
@@1traphistory the internet now lets us see how everyone felt, but this is how the hiphop world kingdom felt lol. NYC was literally like the rome of hiphop during that era. Like, its cool you feel that way but thats not how the majority felt, and new york has alot of people. Jay z remained relevant longer, and i think Beyonce helped that also, putting his face on tabloids at the supermarket and stuff, jay z became a totally different type of icon. Nas was more about representing New york also a bit, while jay Z cared more about just talking money. Both good artists but, the question of jay z being better than nas wasnt really up for discussion pre 2005. Everyone knew Nas was better, i remember the early limewire days and people would sometimes debate it. But now you have alot of people who just, werent around during that era, take in what they see now and judge it for what it is. And thats what most people do who compare them nowadays, they dont look up actual stats or sales or anything. They just run with something they heard that reinforces what they beleive or whatever.
@@profo4544 I was around then, and you are kind of proving my point. Both had NY because they from there but Jay elevated pass Nas because of national exposure. A lot of times, especially back then NY cats had on blinders and only knew about NY shit. I’m telling you down south Juvey’s 400 Degrees was THE album at that time. When Jay jumped on that Ha remix it put him on the map down here and when he worked with UGK it only solidified him more. Nas was cool and all but street niggas down south saw him as backpacky believe it or not. If I Ruled the World was probably his first song to get radio spin down south. A few hip hop heads like myself knew about AZ and the rest but Nas should have expanded his reach. People can debate who’s better but the success of Jay compared to Nas is not debatable and I feel that was the reason
@@1traphistory Jay z never had "NY" like you think though, thats the confusion here. Theres a story about nas getting out a car in manhattan and people walking up to him and calling him the king, from the drop of illmatic to 97, some say till 2001 even, nas was the king of NY hands down, there was no discussion. Jay z never had new york on lock like that, by the time jay z blew like he did new york changed a little so did the hiphop scene, he didnt have that Who the hell is this dude factor either, alot of people knew who he was caus he would run around as a fan of biggies crew and, theres a pic of him before he blew and hes rocking a notorius shirt at the table wit nas. Nas blew out of nowhere and way earlier than jay, so by the time jay z blew up nas had mad stuff on him about how he was a clown thats why nas killed him so bad on ether, caus jay z ran around up everyones ass before he blew. But, Jay z never had new york like that, just because he has a song new york, new york doesnt mean anything. You think real heads were listening to someshit like that ? cmon dude. But yeah i jus wanna correct that, he didnt have new york like you think he did, and alot of people must think this, like he was rolling around as the king of NY, he wasnt maybe nowadays he acts like he is but when the hiphop scene was in its prime he wasnt. He also likes to try to say he started the yankee fitted, thats some BS to, WE new yorkers and new york kids started the yankee fitted, when the won there first world series in 1996 when Jeter was a rookie. Everyone and there mom had a new york yankees jerseys and fitteds on. That was the year the yankees first started there Dynasty and became what they are today.. They won in 96, 98, 99, 2000. After the first win in 96' that hat exploded. Anyone rocking one pre 96 knew what was good.
@@profo4544 I didn’t mean it like he was the king of NY. I agree with you, what I meant was that he was known in NY. Y’all listened to Reasonable Doubt, everybody else was introduced to Jay by The Blueprint. We knew y’all loved Nas because of the same reason we wasn’t feeling Nas all that tuff…he was too NY. Early on specifically
Everyone listen to Camron - Swagger Jacker on UA-cam. Camron been exposed Jayz for stealing biting rhymes, it's sickening how much he took when u listen to it 4 realz
I had swagger jacker before Camron got on it, It was call "I'm not a writer"
Some one put out a video after that showing how camron bites a lot of lyrics. All rappers bite. Nothing wrong with it.
marksuave25
It is something that most rappers do....to an extent. However, when you make a living off biting beats and lyrics, then that makes the accusations by some of him being a fraud that much more credible.
MICHAEL SOWELL at what point do we give a person credit? In that song showing how cam bit a lot of songs and other artist And was accusing jay of doing it he looks like a hypocrite. But even with that being said, cam is a talented rapper, I don't really like him, but he is talented nonetheless. No one here can take that away from any of these rappers. They have talent, give them credit. Jay has talent, even if what karceno is true, something about jayz made those songs hits, where as the "originals" didn't.
MICHAEL SOWELL look up "I don't write shit- cam'ron diss". This came out 7 years ago.
"Give it to me" was Sparks joint from State Property and Jay took it from him. Sparks wrote that hook for that beat too.
correct
@@Karceno4Life he only had the hook
He took "Can I Get A What" from Ja Rule
@@jameshamilton5947 facts and people still 🤡 ja when he became big on that song too
You forgot to mention he took lines from Eminems "I'm Back" and used it on his song "Success"
When the history books are written, it will be evident, Jay Z will never surpass Nas.
He missed his chance, nor could he accomplish it.
MrMakemusicmike fuck u clown. Jay z is trash
"Feelin it" On RD was obviously for Camp lo, even the flow.
I would never bite people's rhymes, lines and bars. That's just not my style. I focus on my own life and my own style.. my own lane!! I write my own shit !!
Big L did a freestyle on hot 97, jay z bit the shit out a big L line
😂😂😂
Ha ha ha ha haha ha
I agree with Karceno.
nas killed Jay with that either. And this dude is on point Jay z has stolen from alot of artist, he stole lyrics and songs from biggie, 2pac, and alot of others
Shit Jay stole Cashmere Thoughts from Camp Lo & damn near got the Luchini from them to. Hell Ski Beats mentioned that
He stole "Feelin' it, too."
***** Yes he did because I see rather Camp Lo doing that song than Jay. Because it fitted more on their type of vibe.
North Trenton New Jersey Yes Jay was a biter not a writer.
***** DOA and PSA were follow ups to a couple of Buckshot songs. Jay-Z is the reason Black Moon had to redo certain songs cause Beatminerz would make a beat and Jay would find someone else to make the same beat so he could make a twist and put it out first. Buckshot talks about this on Juan Epstein.
North Trenton New Jersey He did that to capture the west coast audience attention. To give them that I respect the west type of vibe. Plus the chorus was so simple that elderly people was singing it
Kanye saved Jay's career he really needs to get his royality checks back.
Dude is dropping gems. You are a music historian man.
Faxx
This video is legendary and confirms why I never liked Gay Z. He always stole work from people and built it up on lies and betrayal. The falling out with Dame and Kanye was never incidental" or "accidental". He's a shrewd thief. Drake should learn a thing or two from his idol.
You have a lotta knowledge about these things, keep it comin'. I spent all morning listening to your videos.
he had a song on the dynasty cd called" parking lot pimpin" a term we say in the bay area so yeah Jay-Z is a biter
How tf am I just hearing about this in 2024?!?!
I never understood why people like Jay Z. I just dont get it. But then again people like Justin beiber, Kim Kardashian and drake.
Lol. Damn that's pretty low bro. The man does have talent tho. I like his work. He's a shitty person tho.
I agree. I don't get it either.
mooky ive never rated jay z
He did have lyrical skills back in the 90's.
Honestly, on "hustler baby" (I think it was called "I just wanna Luv Y") Jay Z was syncing the hook, but Pharrel I believe was the one who sang it. Same as when Pharrel was on Mystikal's "Shake it fast." However, I could be wrong. They sound the same. However, "Gimme that stuff that sweet that nasty that gushy stuff" is a sample off an old song by Rick James "Give it to me." Whether it was sampled, I don't know.
I completely agree with you on this one Karceno! Gay-Z is a bitter and doesn't belong in anyone's top 10 MC list.
I knew of his thievery back when he was bitting Biggie. Kanye won't be able to leave RocNation without drawback because Jay needs him on the team, imagine if Kanye left Jay & teamed up with someone else like Lil Wayne or someone else, he could make them as prominent as this version of Jay Z is...
I never fucked with Jay anyways i know he's great with the rhymes but his music doesn't move me. For one i don't like his voice and his subject matter is supposed to be interesting but he makes it boring. I'll stick to Nas & Pac.
Yeah me too ward
his subject matter was okay/decent early on but got progressively worse/dull. so same, he doesn't move me. annoying clown voice too
ProtectedSouls4 Same here he's a great MC but his music doesn't move me.
Prophecy95
Jay-z used Enimem's rhymes on Success with Nas he's a straight biter I've lost a lot of respect for Jay-Z
Me too
Lol even Renegade is originally Eminem and Royce Da 5'9 song
Jay pushed for the song to be his..
when Jay z did that song new york with alicia keys I always thought that was a rip off of Nas song America
NY state of mind -> Empire state of mind... He literally stole the title of Nas' song 😪
First of all I've always said check Jay-z resume the streets have a completely different story about him. Then check his music resume Jay-z whole career he's been switching up he stole Jaz-O's style ,& Jaz-O made Jay-z. During the early 90's Jay-z had a different flow he had to change his flow. Jay-z has stepped on everyone else's back to get to where he is.
And other rappers that are considered great didn't have to necessarily have to do that (biting, not paying homage) to get on their own two feet. In other words, get known to the public eye. Which is the rap world.
Renegade was originally Eminen N Royce D 5''9, but Jay Z got the song for BluePrint.
Yes
and he still couldn't out-rap Em 😂😂
Cam'ron got at Hov on "Let Me Know" on the low. That's why Hov never liked Cam or Dipset even when Dame signed them to Rocafella. Everyone think that song was just about Drag On "NY must stop bitin and start writin, when the fuck we start bouncin". Hov ain't even want to jump on that "Welcome to NYC" track.
ive never been a big Jay-Z fan. I can say someone who has studied hip hop as a whole for years he is the #1 most overrated hip hop artist of all time
Every single hiphop legend called Jay-Z one of the best of all time. From Rakim to Kool G Rap. Stop hatin
+luke jones I know one who said fuck him numerous times. however he is currently no longer with us
Jayz>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pac
+luke jones fuck gay z he fucking overrated as hell
@@MFgabesylar3030 🚮🚮🚮 but I love his first album
Jay-Z stole from lil romeo ha!😂 I'm done
He probably stole from bow wow to
He'll do anything to reach number one. The world is that gullible to fall for if any of Jay-Z songs get airplay.
lol yea he killed me with that
"why dont u let the late great veteran live?!" - esco
Truth hurts, and I like a lot of Jay Zs music. Just the facts. I listen to it cuz it's catchy.
You are an honest human being!
Bro, I been debating this exactly my whole life. Jay-Z is so un-authentic, how all the people he battled he then stole from like Pac and Nas, where’s the decency? Kanye’s influence is heavily understated, he’s fake as hell. On top of all of that, he’s still not relatable, he doesn’t come close to top 5.
A few more ua-cam.com/video/ybEZF4Vbe3A/v-deo.html
Jay-Z is always stealing but I didn't know he stole that much.
Pharrell produced Give it to Me and Shake it Fast... That's why they sound the same
That's part of the reason this whole video is dumb
He really didn’t produce those songs y’all idiots
Don't forget Bonnie and Clyde which originally was created and written by "Tupac". He than released the track years later..acting like he created the song originally. If Pac was alive he would destroy him for that
my only problems with Jay is that he hopped on the wave of every hot new nigga. Ja, 50, Dmx, em, kendrick, drake, TI etc. then act like he adding to their buzz. no nigga they adding to your buzz.
and how he claims king of ny. biggie had the crown. him and nas battled for it and nas one. on top of that Ja, DMX and 50 all having their moments as top dog in NY.
Tupac exposed Jay Z in the mid 90's.
Word Jay doesn't have originality. He went from sounding like Dax Efx and Fu Schnickens pre Reasonable Doubt, to sounding like Camp-Lo on REASONABLE DOUBT, then using Sauce Money's flow on Volume 1 In My Lifetime, then using Young Chris Style on Blueprint 1, to then Jacking J Cole style and look
This is true! J said in so many words He will or sell his soul for money no Limit
I remember when Reasonable Doubt first hit the streets before the official release. My best friend and I are the only 2 that had it in the area I was in. I was still in like elementary/junior high school. We had the cassette and for a while and we didn't even know it was a album. We thought it was a mixtape lol.
One that never gets mentioned is UGK's "Touched"...Jay bit the hell out of Bun B's verse (1st verse)...
He pretty much followed Elvis Presley and all those people who used to steal from those great artists. I think they say he’s the goat is because of all the awards and records sold. But to me LL and even nas should be considered ny goat. Plus the Media pushes him like Vince McMahon would push his number one wrestler who ever that may be
I have more Luck than sense similar to Jay-Z...................It's better to be lucky than good in the words of Doug Morris.
The reason why i hated him, is for using 2pac songs and beats to be relevent, i dnt get why he is labeled a legend
He actually got ah point even 2pac me and my girlfriend wit Beyonce in da words of lil Jon well okaaaay!
English. Do you speak it?
The blueprint was the last album of Jay z that I listened to . Reasonable doubt came out in 96 and was hot . Timing does alot and he had great timing. He was the last of the great rappers so he got all the accolades. Once he became mainstream things changed just like they do for everyone else. We're would he be now on the todum if pac was here biggie was here bigL , Big Pun . Everybody loves you when you coming up but when you make it they hate you ..
"Public Service Announcement" off the Black Album: "allow me to reintroduce myself, my name is HOV, H to the O.V....."
Anyone remember Digital Underground? Shock G as Humpty Hump on "Humpty Dance"? "allow me to reintroduce myself, my name is humpty, pronounce with an umpty...."
You catch my drift. same damn pattern. But he's the G.O.A.T. huh? NO. LL COOL J is. LOL
BTW, Shock G was one of the most creative artists that ever did it. From the beats to the concepts. DU was ahead of their time. I GOT A QUESTION!!!! Who else can put on a disguise and be 2 different people and create a whole new lane off a character? Hmmm, Hmmmm? If it won't for Digital Underground, there would be no 2Pac. Yea...I just said that.
SO by your rational that humpty CHARACTER was the 1st person in world history to say "allow me to reintroduce my self. ".
LOL
Don't you know that there is nothing new under the sun.
Every thing has been done before the question is can you add a new variation to it. that's what makes it art. Smh lol
+Leaf Qwembi LOL LL ain't the goat either.
T-800/1000 Model
Yea, I know...I just had to put it out there since he made an album called GOAT LMAO
His a great rapper man an you be hard pressed to find a rapper who didn't sample off somebody. Thats like saying biggie Smalls bit off LL cool j because they both had a song called " going back to Cali" NAS sample OFF BIG RAKEM, slick rick, and others but because Jay is more successful he is the bad guy. Lol
abe nice LOL what are you talking about?
Peace I heard you do anything on half A mill a lot of rappers stole from him too
Where can I hear the 9MM song Karceno??
Doesn't matter. If half your best bars hooks and concepts are from other rappers HE CAN'T BE THE GOAT' You cant say he was just idolizing biggie' was he just paying homage to the other 2 dozen rappers too; and there is even way more stuff he bit' check out PT 2. Nas is the GOAT its no longer up for debate' and Nas KD3 release put the nail in JayZs coffin as GOAT' Hands down. Nas now got a bigger and better catalog, more number one hit albums' Nas is GOAT no more debating it.
Nas ain't a rapper
Stop callin him that
He is a bible book
Nas is a prophet on tracks
Totally agree with every word on this video. Jay Z is the most overrated rapper walking. He owes everything to Dame Dash who put him in a position where he was surrounded by talented people. He cant write a song he just jumps on other peoples hot tracks and gets the credit. If he wasnt married to Beyonce he would of been forgotten ten years ago. Total garbage. Any track thats been popping has been someone elses
On Point!! Nobody really knows about that rare essence hook unless they from the DMV, you did your research bruh 💯
Actually bruh "Give it to me" was stolen from Omillio Sparks from State Property. He heard him spitting the hook for one of his tracks w Oschino and Hov swooped in like nah this shit is dope im using this. He's Jay-Z, so nobody argued wit him. That's why Omillio is on the hook.
Speakin that truth! I didn’t even know some of these songs were stolen, i just have a bad taste from the Mystikal joint and all the post mortem Big L and Biggie bars.
Camron told the truth
You must just be mad at Jay's success because everyone in the music business jacks beats and songs and Jay and Nas are both phenomenal emcees
dont think jayz got his name from jazz o.. that would be stupid.. jay was a bk dude but always came across as a harlem dude, he loved them harlem hustlers.. aye body was naming their selves with a z behind they name or adding po for alpo and Az ...thats where he get the name from..
Im a Jay fan and even i know and have seen when Jay says it himself!!!! He got his name from Jaz that was the big homie it use to be Jazzy! Actually then he flipped a bit as years went on and styles changed.Where you been at?
Factz Can I get A was Ja Rules joint, he jacked it, the New York, joint with Alisha Keys was her joint, he jacked it from her, the Excuse me Ms record hook is Jacked from a Joint on State property's 1st album called Mommy do u want me (Young Chris verse), he stole young chris whole flow (factz), that give it to me song was actually sparks joint from state property, jay said give it to me lmao, I need that lmao, Izzo record took snoop slang, fa sizzle my nizzle Iike snoop had just started saying it and Jay said lemme get that lmao and the list goes on, this is very accurate sir
Yo Karceno, why did Solange swing on Jay Z in the elevator?
She was faded and j slid it inside before.
Because I was gon fuck Solange in the ass but Jay hated on some that's his Lil sister in law shit Solange got mad and started stolin' on the nigga but Jay my man tho we still kool
HE CHEATED ON B
@@ShyCashual 😆
Jay Z fully took me and my Girlfriend from 2Pac. LMFAO XD. Pac he same guy who said fuck Jay Z before knowing he was gonna die. Jay Z got down on 1 knee to KISS Pac`s Ring on that 1. Same Pac who said fuck Jay Z before he died lol.
Nas did the shit first than pac stole it
How do you get your info???? Were you in the Industry???
steve ocean Nope, He is A paid hack"
Prodigy used the Nina Simone sample for Stronger first.....then Jay used it for that OJ joint.....Prodigy never liked Jay...R.I.P P 💯💪🏾
Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, S.Dot the collection, American Gangster, Vol.2, WTT...Jay has a solid discography by any standard. Imo.
Omillio came with that hook for "Give it to me"
I'm still curious on why Young Chris let his rhyme style get remixed
Your videos got me hooked, too much info
Damn Bro! I do have to agree with you on this shit! Jayz has been stealing and biting rhymes from day one, don't get me wrong I'm not trying to step on a niggas hussel but to be called the greatest rapper of all time! I don't think so come on now lets keep it real Jayz is a "BRAND" that's what we buy into, that's just what we do as fan's we are buying the "BRAND" just like Nike! it's not all about the sneaker it's all about the million dollar nigga that's wearing them! M.J. it's the "BRAND" not the shoe trust me no the court I've put flames to a niggas ass with a pair of skipys on and old dude was Nike from head to toe! so don't get it twisted it's just a "BRAND". I'm out 6'9inc
he was biting young gunz flow
Young Chris
Better than that trash we have now. These dudes can't even rap, it's all about hooks. This young dude was saying that Rick Ross was nice and I told him that he's all about nice hooks and beats. I tried to tell him about Redman, O.C. et al and he was lost.
I agree with that
I actually have respect for the new era rappers like BAND CAMP boys
I guess I'm a volume 2 fan, but I've heard and love reasonable doubt, but where can I find the one with the gun on the cover I've never seen that one.
On the actual first disc it's a pic of a nine on the reprints its not there
Karceno4Life
Can you please post a pic? I can't find one on the internet.
Dame Dash did say recently that all Jay had to do was rhyme. Dame was the mastermind behind the Roc.
Vol. 1 wasn't his best album but it had some of the best Hov songs ever. That's one of my personal favorite albums. The few weak songs messed up that album in my opinion. As dope as Vol. 2 was, commercially, I hardly ever listen to that album. Vol. 2 is like Hov's version of Nas's I Am album. But yeah Hov did steal a lot. Even though he's one of fav of all time you can't argue that he stole a lot from others. The examples you gave aren't all stolen though because you can't fault him for having similiar beats/samples as other hit records. If you listen to any rap radio station today for a hour you'll hear at least 5-7 songs that sound exactly the same. I think Hov being the greatest is debatable even with everything he stole. He has a LOT of material. Not too many rappers have the amount of classics he have.
BoxingWave very true
Bro, u cant compare Volume 2 to I AM.. first off I AM is very underrated because it was compared to Nas first 2 classic albums. Also Vol 2 Jay barely has any songs without guest appearances. Nas has some guest appearances on I AM but nevertheless, it is all Nas. And finally, the bottom line is that I AM is waaaaay better than Vol 2!
you know notice Drake is doing the samething he migos flow, he took the cha cha song, he uses the h-town slow sound...
Good point, however, "Give It To Me" was taken from Rick James, and "Excuse Me Miss" was Luther Vandross.
Hip hop been sampling. Everybody sampled hooks and beats
Nice video.. I'd like to know what rappers you consider great
***** Biggie, nas, Rakim, Cool j, etc
not best of all-time but he is over JayX
355BeastMode he did that because he had to because suge did some ganster shit to him in LA
2PAC > the rest
please. please. please..do a video on why ppl thing tupac is not LYRICAL please
Like Jay-Z has bars, but not that many, that's why he steals raps. If you peep, Jay-Z won't have 3 16s every song like a Nas, Tupac, Eminem, or Biggie would...they can spit forever and ever. A lot of Jay songs just be having a long ass hook
How Pharrell gone steal from himself he prod shake it fast & give it to me…
Swagger jacker used to be on radio late nights on hot 97 or power 105 1
Karceno top 5 NY rappers, most influential NY albums, mixtapes...ect..?
Shit u mentioned Young Chris, He stole Young Chris flow too lmao. A lot of ppl say they sound alike (like Chris biting off of him) but Hov heard it and definitely ran w it...but it's Hov so what Chris was gonna say? He thought he'd be in the loop w Hov. That's why i laughed when ppl said Hov flamed weezy on "watch what you say to me" talking about stealing flows...his wasnt original in the first place lol.
Wow, there are actually people who think Jay Z won that battle?
After watching this video I lost a lot of respect for Jay-Z why do people consider him to be the goat when he stole a lot of people rhymes he even stole Nas rhymes when he was beefing with Nas so sad and lazy it's funny how he even bit Jazzo's name I have no respect for Jay-Z
He often pays homage.. and he has enough body of work to be considered amongst the GOATs
@@vayunlohani441 it's not paying homage it's called stealing straight up bitting
To respond to the title of the video... Duuuuhhh - "...From Sean Carter to Jay-Z damn u on Jazz dick!" Jayz has made a career of being a hack... Smart business man but he always came up off of other people. But hell, the USA has done that its whole career too... Good ish -
These Jay-Z fanboys can have the fetish mancrush on him.
Big L, Redman, Pac, Big daddy kane, rakim, AZ, Pun, nas, too short over jay any day.
unfortunately Jay Z is not the only one who steal hooks or bite lyrics. I think since he still around that's why people starting to notice more. At least the older crowd.
Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz! Good shit cuz, I been saying this for years that Jay z do too many Collaborations, me and my boy would always argue about who was a better rapper DMX or Jay Z OF COURSE I SAID DMX LMAO! But good shit Karceno
DMX
Damn they bit that Round Here by Bleek too!!! Stole that concept & hook from a southern rapper name Chop Dezol & put Trick Daddy & T.I on it!!! Chop was trying to sign with them at the time!!!
Jay-Z is an above average MC but not the best. The reason why he has the wealth he has is mostly by the behind the scenes work of Dame Dash and Burke. Have you ever heard Jay-Z in interviews? Do you think he is the mastermind behind Roc a Wear and Roc a Fella Records? Was he responsible for Camron's success? Jay-Z always talk about album sales but the truth is that Def Jam was known to buy hundreds of thousands of copies of their artist's albums to inflate the album sale numbers, resulting in their artist going platinum in combination with the actual album sales. A lot of Jay-Z platinum albums actually sold around 500,000 units. You can thank Def Jam and Dame Dash for most of Jay-Z success.
I remember when jay z stole overnight scenario... Rare essence is a gogo band from maryland. They was the SHIT. I know they was hot when he did that😳smh. I remember. Ida sued that clown too.
***** I know right😶
What!!! You kidding right? i thought it was because her Mom was from Texas and her dad was from AlaBAMA. Texas Bama.
+OhShay lol. The lyrics mentions her dad and then mom..... and then the making of her the creation. a formation. lol makes sense then talking about how she dressing lol
***** True True
Lol... Huggy low down.
pretty weak points = JAY Z HEARD A BEAT HE LIKED AND PAID $30K ON THE SPOT FOR IT. so what? = THIS DOES NOT MAKE HIM A BITER
JAY Z HAD LOTS OF GUEST SPOTS ON HIS VOL. 2 ALBUM. so what?= IT CAME OUT IN 1999. MASTER P WAS THE BIGGEST ARTIST IN THE INDUSTRY THEN, HE SIMPLY DID WHAT WAS TRENDY IN THE INDUSTRY. MASTER P HAD TWO GUESTS ON EVERY SONG.
lol, first off be accurate when complaining, Dame bought the beat jay was broke. Vol.2 had a ton of guess appearances. You never addressed the fact of his stealing.
Dame paid $10,000 for the beat.
fonkymaster (LAUGHING)
Karceno4Life thanks for addressing rare essence over night scenario. it sound harder than jayz version. teddy riley heard go go and created the new jack swing the sound you hear in all hip hop today