Choke No Joke Reveals Why 'Roc-A-Fella' Ended: Jay Is A "Sucka" For Abandoning Rocafella Team
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- hypersclub.com/ - During this moment with Jon Aba, Choke No Joke continues his talk about his time with Rocafella Records. According to Choke, it was Jay's business preferences which caused the end of his label with Dame Dash. Instagram: @ComedyHype & Twitter: @ComedyHype_
Damn, Bruh explained it so clear and matter-of-factly that even my grandma could understand it. Dash has been screaming self reliance and independence forever. Jay Z chose corporate America which always uses and discards its products when their no longer useful and find ways to recoup any investment they have outstanding in you.
Jay Z filthy rich, Rhianna, J Cole etc. Doing great way better than old ass Roc Fella Records artists. U 5 heartbeat MF, " Nights light this I wish raindrops will Falllllll." Ass MF. Jay Z is a Multibillionaire, America is Corporate Business, Dame want a mom and pop.
The only people that don't understand what choke no joke is saying, or the people that saying he is hating on Jay z, and the people that don't have a clear mind to just listen to what he's saying!
U are wrong
Or kids who would sell their soul to be in jay z shoes because they weren't taught integrity or morals. So they looking at it as i don't care who jay screwed over or how he got there because he got money. @Jamesjenkis-jh8jw
Dash was eating off Jay. Jay decided to leave. The best business move they did was the deal with defjam and that was Irv Gotti's plan.
"Because he got Beyonce and Because they think he got a billion dollars" 😭😭😭
Harvey weinstein, case closed
😂😂
@@ultramagalatino Done deal 🫰🏽
@@JKL_04 😅
He has 2 billions now
Finally, someone speaking on this dude without gurgling the balls
He’s been talking the same crap for last 15 years
@@Youafool500As he should. He’s not gullible like people like you are
You really think Jay-Z care about your broke asses comments
I’m Glad Choke is getting the platform to speak on it. It’s been a minute. I’m pretty sure many of the people are clueless to who he is, just know he’s been around for years speaking a constant message!
@@80visionaire he’s been saying the say things since the early 2000s when Dame fired him
Finally someone speaks on JAY Z without dk riding him 😂😂😂😂
He's just broken.
so you like this guys lies?
@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 he ain’t Lyin though
@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 He's definitely not lying! He speaking facts!
🎯💯
Finally someone that isn’t afraid to bring the truth to light
People believe that Dame is a narcissist, but the dude has been transparent from day one & what you see is what you get. No one actually knows how Jay made his money because he was rewarded for helping them Jews blackball Dame when he was exposing their true worth within our culture, which is Zero...
Anyone that don't believe Choke, please do your history. Everything is public knowledge...
You’re absolutely correct, and most people are afraid to say that.
Nah Jay got money because he sold his booty.
“them jews” lol that’s just another version of white folks calling all us “the blacks”. You could probably just say “the record label” instead of stooping to their level
“Make another…”
That was one of the best I interviews I seen in a long your/ chox needs his own platform
Best interview 2025 period 💯
Jay Z is the main reason we should not be doing the my homie business
Exactly
It wasn't tho. Dame and Jay didn't know each other until they were put together. Dame was Jay's manager
@@smithblack100 yeah they were introduced to each other by Clark Kent but if Dame wasn't so trusting he would have seen it coming
Haters make the world round.....
@@geraldblackwell1144 Facts
Long story short -
Dame - Doesn’t want to run in the system
JayZ - wants to become the system
Got it 👍
🎯
@DMVHOODZNDNEWZ From one culture vulture to another huh man 😂
@@Riyadh460 to another punctured poacher
Dame dont rap or done nothing, who give a fuck what Dame what to do on another brotha back. Jay Z left Roc a Fella, Went in founded Roc Nation, Roc Nation makes Roc A Fella records look like a little Ghetto label. RHIANNA,
J Cole, Yo Gotti, etc. Made way more money than then Roc A Fella Records. You stuck in the past, Dame needs Jay Z, Jay Z don't need that chatty patty drunk, deadbeat dad bum.
What's the difference between a 4.0 and a 4.6?
He makes a lot of sense.
I see it.
Black independence?
We should further be along than it is.
I been on Choke channel all week, bro funny as hell...shout out from Dallas, Tx
Ronald McDonald is a mascot for McDonald's? That's a very clever description of an Empire! I like this guy's articulation CNJ! 😁💯
Lol.
Yall minds are blown easily 😐😮💨🤦🏾♂️
@@Swish_Godslow af 😂 she rode in on a small bus 🚌
It must suck to become one of the greatest in your profession and because when you get there, you have weirdos online and folks that are unsuccessful discuss you negatively they would cut their left arm to be you
@@MrTwonetwone LOL. AND
It’s ironic that Jay Z separated from Dame Dash and Rocafella records to become his own mega star and Beyoncé seperated from Destiny child’s to become her own megastar, and they both hooked up together x after seperating from their roots
Conglomerates do it all the time in the Business of Mergers & Acquisitions; it's strategic!
Now THIS was the first REAL and BEST interview video that I’ve seen this guy “Choke No Joke” do on this channel. This was hella interesting and informative AND it made SO much sense and you could tell that it was true if you know anything about Jay Z, especially the way that he carries and presents himself. - 👏🏻👏🏽👏🏿👏👏🏾 Good job! Excellent information.
I remember there was a time around 2002-03 when some of these CEO's in the industry were trying to imitate Dame Dash's aggressive approach by yelling at other CEO's in order to get their projects off the ground. When Dame got blackballed out of the industry, you didn't see that too much publicly anymore.
CAP! You can't name "1"
You should really credit that to Suge. He was gorilla pressing those folks in those meetings before Dame. Jay and Puff realized that companies won’t get behind those types in the offices and became less threatening
@@mackvelly8899Nobody seen Suge do it….We SEEN Dame go dumb on Kevin Lyles and in Def Jam meetings
Times have changed period. You really can’t get that off in today’s times.
@@TheSupremeDunkhuh? Suge showed everyone, including music execs who he was in interviews and on stage. People didn't have to get into meetings to see what Suge's demeanor was and how he handled business. He showed himself everywhere he went.
That same bully you saw in his interviews and on stage was that same bully he was in meetings.
And now that time has gone by and people have spoken about his antics within the Death Row office, we see Suge was the ignorant Bully who wasn't good at business that everyone thought he was.
1:32 can’t despite attitude. You gotta know how to move with people. Nobody wants to work with a hothead like Adam because of his attitude
I didn’t even listen to a word Choke said. I’ve just been reading the comments.😂
Right😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
He's on Point
It's called disseminating information......
Me too😂😂😂
Jay-Z always gave off the vibe he was about himself and himself only he just pretend to be part of the team but was plotting lol.
Beloved this is where you're misinformed. Majority of the Rocafella team is w him at RocNation as we speak. Lenny S. Kiyambo "Hip Hop" Joshua, Biggs, OG Juan, Emory, Ty Ty, Young Guru are all over there. Freeway, Just Blaze, Bleek, Beans are managed by their management firm. He was just w them at Jacob Javitts here in NYC two weeks ago for the announcement of the 40/40 club relaunch. The only ppl disenchanted from Jay's presence is Dame, Choke No Joke & Oschino bc they always got his name in their mouths. Bc that's the only way they get interviewed.
That's a bed-stuy dude for you
@@joshingram071people will always align with the person that has the juice, no matter if it's not in your best interest. You learn this in highschool when a nerd turns his back on his day one because he might get a chance to sit at the cool table. Doesn't mean Jay won't cut their necks when need be. Beens gives Jay street cred. That's the only reason that tie is still there
Being about yourself in an industry that is all about yourself. It's dog eat dog world.
@@joshingram071 They like the idea of him being rich because they can vicariously live through that but that's it their reward is trinkets.
Where have you been brother, thanks for speaking out men and to the show. Bring it the people, we need some more.
This dude started out hating on Dame saying Jay was right, saw it wasn’t getting any traction and flipped the script, all of sudden it’s hate for a guy he admittedly doesn’t know.
And 90% of the audience aren’t objective enough to peep the bullshit coz they hate Jay-Z . Misery loves company frfr
I WROTE THIS ON HIS PAGE LIKE 3 YEARS AGO 😂…ONLY DUMMIES CANT SEE IT…
bs, he always called both Jay and Dame out, he kept it tall.
real talk
Ive heard him criticize both Jay Z and Dame Dash wtf are you talking about.😂😂😂😂😂
You never hear Biggs complain being one of the co-founders of Roc-A-Fella.
Bcuz Jay Z took care of Biggs & Bleek. No one else
Bigg's is kicking it in the suite with Jay-Z, waiting for the auction tomorrow, so they can increase their profits, that's why Dame's so mad, he knows he can't talk s*** about Bigg's publicly
Because Biggs is the quiet one
@@mylifeyourentertainmentBiggs is his own man. He’s doing fine now and he still has money plus him and Jay are still cool.
Jay Got Emory out of Jail after 10yrs of Jail and Turned him into a millionaire
loving this interview 🙌🏿
Cam was on roca fella for a short amount of time and still kept progressing because he's a hustler all these other artists were lazy amd wanted to be spoon fed
@@bkyungplaya now I can agree with that
We allll gone work hard.
Cam had the street pharmacy 💯
All them guys was hustlers…everybody situation is different, and LUCK plays a major role ….good or bad ✌🏾
You’re right, those guys came from nothing, got some chains, money and fame, and they got comfortable
You just talking to be talking
I hate to say it. It showed that the Roc couldn’t survive without Jayz.. they should’ve still been able to flourish without Jayz
Completely not true at all. The Roc would've been better without him.
If Kanye stayed down with Dame they most definitely could've survived without Jay Z.
Not without using the name.
It's not even that they couldn't survive you gotta understand the business and when jay left who all left with him and the reason behind it,lyor and for the most part,no one like dame,because he spoke up for his people,amd when all hell broke loose,no one in the industry had his back,so now he's up against his own people and the other kind of people,and the other kind of people controls the machine,amd what get played what gets promoted amd what's get marketed,and its soooo much other stuff I can say
I disagree what choke is singing and what I found to be the truth is Jay-Z's not letting them use the rock name which Dame helped build even when Jay Z didn't have any money to put up, the next Jay-Z making sure that nobody but him can prosper.
Cheers mate 👍🏾 your contribution to not giving a flying fxxk is appreciated 🍻
Half the statements Choke made are incorrect!
- Dame was not blackballed. Island/Defjam gave him his own distribution deal with 'Dame Dash Music Group'
- Jay ran his own music festival for years: 'MADE IN AMERICA'
- Jay has 1.2 Billion in raw cash. That does not include shares in LVMH, Investment pieces (art, watches, cars, real estate, etc.), or ownership stakes (Tidal, Roc Nation, Armand De Brignac, etc.).
- Jay didn't lie to Dame about retirement. He retired than offered Dame all the masters to his music in exchange for Reasonable doubt...Dame refused.
- Jay told all the artist on Roc-a-fella to pick a side during the Roc-a-fella split. Kanye, & Bleek chose Hov...the rest chose Dame. I think we know how those choices panned out. 🤣
- Jay took other peoples money and flipped it into a few billion for himself. Dame flipped his own money into an almost 10 million dollar tax debt...alongside back child support and a 1.2 million dollar civil judgement.
Also...
"Jay has not proven to be a successful CEO"
🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
"Choke Is Broke" is the LIVING DEFINITION of someone who is:
'HYPNOTIZED BY HATRED'
Shoutout to Boosie Badazz!
98% of what you said is correct. Jay offered Dame and Biggs his 1/3 of Roc A Fella for the RD masters and Dame said no
@@michaeloparah5438 you jays accountant? How do you know he has 1.2 billion? You cant say someone is incorrect then post gossip.
@@freddycalipari4242this shit is all public information. Grow up man
Jay dont got 1.2 in cash bro thats stupid its assets
@@michealchatman3345 🤨
1) Cash is an asset
2) Hov sold off huge chunks of his companies for cash in order to join the Harris investment group that was attempting to purchase the commanders.
Let this be a lesson to young dudes, a man should not under any circumstances WHINE about another man!! That shit is wild!!
Especially if in the moment you was cool wit him
@@Erik7prcthey was never cool, he worked for Dame directly. Jay never wanted to be around him, or have him filming him and that's how he got the paws put on him.
Facts! This sound like an interview one of my former homeboys would have about me….”awe that nga ain’t real, he left the hood, he sold out….”
MF I’m 40, I got a Family, house, career…I ain’t raising my kids around that BS
Its an interview bra 😐 He suppose to talk about it
@@thetraveler1182 most definitely
A smart and wise man once said... never use your money... and never own a 100% of something that's worth nothing. That's why Dame is where he at.
Damn, people hating on other successful people will always be wild to me. Jay and Dame split like 2 decades ago... let that sink in.
So the real question is, why is this conversation still prevalent till this day?
Well if you actually understand what’s going on, the Rocafella split was one of the biggest stories of Hip Hop. JayZ ruined a lot of careers, Rocafella was thriving and the only way to stop them would be from the inside. JayZ let greed get the best of him. This will always be a topic of conversation, 10-20 years from now.
@@cipherP9 Right !! Jay Z also blackballed DMX & LL Cool J’s albums while on Def Jam when he took his position there. Nobody wanna talk about that tho. X & LL couldn’t stand Jay Z
@@mylifeyourentertainmentJay cleared a million debt from DMX before he went to Sony. X should have swallowed his pride and stayed because his stock went down as soon as he left DJ. I would have loved to see X rap on some down south beats back then like KLC and DJ Speedy.😊
@@mackvelly8899A million dollar debt that after DMX’s (R.I.P) lawyers examined the books discovered didn’t exist and Def Jam had to cut X a big ass check on his way out. So what are you talking about?
4:55 yo that Ronald McDonald line killed meh 🤡
😂😂😂
🎉🎉🎉 great interview
Dudes can’t hold their hate in, they always mention the 2 things that bother them most, Jay having Beyonce and how much money he has. I’ve witnessed hating ass dudes always mentioning what another man had and they always came off as salty as hell.
Lionel Ritchie did the samething to the Commadores and ruined them. Your obviously not in a group or band but to this day people from that Era still dislikes him for that
Preach
Nothing at all about music
A wise man said/Never argue with fools/Cuz people from afar/Cant tell/Who is who. Lol. -Hova
man when i tell you that line is so profound. outta everything Jay has said in his music, that's the line that's most memorable to me.
Get off Jay-Z nuts
@@viewer29fly And it kills them that Jay doesn't respond.
People from a distance can't tell who is who.
@@Davempr1011 Same difference.
So glad Choke is talking more. He knows and has been so much
Why are they all blaming Jay when they could’ve done other shit and Ventured off to do they own shit
@@lovechildjones8169 the only set that did they own tho g and made it was the Diplomats
Because they say Jay blocks people careers.
How old are you? The industry was extremely small before the internet. Gatekeepers
@@BWillin2In this case, Diplomats didn’t “make it” either. ‘Cause, they would be exactly where Jay is right now, but they aren’t. I will admit, it is extremely difficult to watch Jimmy and Juelz shamelessly kiss Jay-Z’s ass after all these years. 😢
Bc jay got them black balled. What if ur friend got u fired then used his influence to tell everyone not to give u a job
Jay told y'all in the beginning " you can't knock the hustle"🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Yea he also said death before dishonor
U don’t hustle ur friends i’d io’t
TRUTH!!!
If you’re looking at the second definition of Hustler you are completely right. That definition is one who employs fraudulent or unscrupulous methods to obtain money;swindler🤷🏾♀️
@@Shineurlite08🎯💯
yo choke this was a good interview and you explained everything to the t, and use the exact words to do so
People go on like Jayz needed to be with Dame his whole life. 😂 Let the guy live his own life. Dame left Rocafella a multi millionaire, not broke and homeless.
Chokes whole existence is talking about jay.
You’re missing the entire point Bruh. Going independent was Jay’s prerogative but don’t blackball Dame while going so. It almost sounds as though Jay sacrificed Dame to achieve his level of success, and don’t even get me started on the whole death of A a l i y a h conspiracy. Jay Z embodies the saying a best friend can be a powerful enemy. But all of that is besides the point. All I’m saying as it relates to the whole Jay-Z/DameDash fallout is: Don’t build a house for someone only to cut off their water once it’s completed. 🙋🏾♂️ My $.02
@@FuriousStylez93 Didn't Dame hire people that Jay was beefing with into prominent positions at their label while Jay was on vacation? The disdain between Jay and Dame always sounded like Dame was trying to son him and Jay outsmarted him. Jay was the sauce, so when he bounced there was no need for business entities to put up with Dame's difficult attitude. It was Dame's arrogance and ego got him black balled.
@@bxrokk Never was privy to that information but none of that matters because Jay was already a snake to begin with. I’m not going to even begin pretending that we understood their friendship, however, I think Jay’s track record speaks for itself. Out of everyone once affiliated with 🫶🏽 The ROC, Jay -Z is basically the only one who is winning and isn’t struggling financially. Barely any of the original artists still have careers or money right now; Just watched a video of Beanie Siegel frying chicken for a living just last week. 🤔 How does that happen?
@@FuriousStylez93 How can Jay be blamed for his artists mismanaging their money? Every artist on Roc-a-fella was a millionaire at one point. If they're broke now and frying chicken for a living it's because they fumbled the bag on their own. As for winning, it's up to them to make better decisions and upskill themselves to stay relevant. Jay can't be expected to keep them rich. How is that supposed to happen? Does your ex-boss call and make sure you're financially good and offer to supplement your income if you're not? FOH with the dumb shit.
@@bxrokk Your comment sums up entirely and is precisely what’s wrong with the community today; Everybody can’t win simultaneously, only one of us can be the successful token at a time. And more often than not, at the detriment of the rest. I’m not saying it was Jay’s responsibility to “enlighten” the other guys, but just like you wouldn’t give your 17 year old kid a set of car keys & expect them to know how to drive it, if I personally gifted you a million dollars, then I wouldn’t automatically expect you to know where to spend it.
My problem with your mentality is that instead of one man being worth one billion, why not have 10 men as a collective being worth at least 10 billion dollars? My point here is: Why build only ☝🏽 billionaire when you could built 🙌🏽10? Honestly Jay is considered a middle class billionaire, albeit impressive, yet great only by our standards. Which from a global standpoint makes him an economically uncompetitive; One of the fundamental rules of racism btw.
So while I am fortunate to have existed on the globe at the same time as Jay-Z, I think I would’ve preferred to live in a world where he and Dame shared the top spot because at least there’d much more diversity of thought. And today’s rap music would probably sound much better. 🙋🏾♂️My $.02
I hate this public tearing down by other black men. Sheesh
This all we do
Excellent explanation Choke! Thank you sir! I honestly believe his point of view! 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯
Let's keep it all the way 100. Jay-Z said if you made Jay-Z then make another Jay-Z, it's been well over 20 years. You can go to any McDonald's and never see Ronald.You'll still go to the mcdonald's right
Hard to believe Dame is such a great CEO. When he hasnt done anything since jay left him.
Wasn't he blacklisted???
Apparently you wasn't paying attention Dame was BLACKBALLED from the industry
You slow he literally just told you
@@chevy2883 "Blacklisted/Blackballed....same thing"
Choke explained how Def Jam Universal blackballed Dame. Did you not catch that?
It’s crazy how this topic never gets old, shows how crazy it was when it happened.
Jay wouldn’t be successful if he didn’t get rid of those liabilities nowadays. Dame couldn’t keep his mouth closed and play his position and Beans kept getting locked up. They became a liability and that’s why he bounced.
Choke is still mad that Jay got his mouth wired back then.
Dame was 1/3 of Roc A Enterprises so he was supposed to speak up because they were interfering with his business. Beans only had that one case and he beat it. Choke got $500K in a settlement afterwards.
And that’s what the higher ups told him
@@willsalter8113choke got nowhere near 500k. They gave choke a 15k settlement and told him to beat it.
Choke is one of the most prolific Hip Hop interviewees.
He seems to know what’s going on Finally somebody willing to say what happened without bias
Everybody who was connected to the original Rocafella has nothing good to say about JayZ.
because they couldn't ride the coat tail any longer. Bleek with him.
That should speak volumes, if multiple ppl saying the same thing, there has to be truth in it
Freeway, Young Chris, Bleek, Just Blaze, Biggs, Young Guru… even recently Beans and Cam only say good things about Jay. So I don’t know how you trying to pass off this lie.
everyone around Jay has been around him since then. OG Juan, Ty Ty, Jay Brown, Desiree, Emory, Bleek, Lenny S, Biggs….Fuq U talking about?!
Majority of them work at rocnation. Biggs is still doing deals with Jay
They had a clause in the contract that required Def Jam to purchase the remaining 50% at a later date. They were supposed to sell in 2002, but Universal was short on the bread so they extended the deal until 2005, but they all knew they were selling the company. Biggs said this himself. How does this part of the story always get skipped?
Because they lies and bullshit always sounds bettwr
Because everyone wants to blame Jay for Dame's struggles. Biggs and Jay still have a relationship, Dame is the only one calling Jay a snake. Biggs did a bid and is doing better than Dame, but Dame is this great businessman, GTFOH.
@@mr.mr.4772 biggs and jay didnt have a relationship until after he went to jail again and needed a job. Prior to that he was with dame after the split. He went from being a partner to working for jay.
@@freddycalipari4242 nope. biggs didnt wanna sella RD... he didnt block the sell of Rocafella like Dame claims he that wanted to do. in reality Dame and biggs could of stayed with rocafella and triggered the MBO mangement buyout but didnt. they sold to def jam. the beef was because jay didnt wanna continue with dame and wanted his album - RD - rights
@@activistbook3809 nope? Lol biggs and dame worked together until he caught another weed charge and did time. Jay did biggs just as dirty as Dame.
Yo this show is lit 🔥much respect 🤙🏽🤙🏽
So if Dame still had roc a fella he would be as big or bigger than bad boy or cash money. Absolutely not.
Dame had his own label "DDMG", with State Property/Dipset, then FLOPPED it in less than 2-years
He also had or still has Blu Roc records and has yet to sell an album😂
Yes he would. How old are you!!!
@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713I guess y'all don't know what blackballed means.
@kirkMoWhiskey I guess you don't know what blackballed means. They made it their business to make sure he didn't succeed in the music business without them and his good friend that became a foe. Helped them.
This the same dude that Dame called a “punching bag” 😂😂😂
doesn’t mean what he says aint true
Both things can be true tho
THIS FOOL AINT NEVA SPEAK BOUT NOTHIN RELEVANT ALL HE SPEWIN IS PUBLIC RECORD NOTHIN IN DETAIL BETWEEN THEIR BUSINESS! A GOFER THATS WAT CHOKE IS WANNA B DOWN BRANDY ASS
Ikr
Irrelevant 😮
Good Content !!! Keep Going!
JAY SOLD HALF OF DUSSE FOR $750 MILLION, SOLD HALF OF ACE OF SPADES FOR $315 MILLION…THATS OVER A BILLION DOLLARS 😂😂😂 AND HE ALREADY WAS WORTH 1.3 BILLION AT THE TIME…
Bro he sold half of ace of spades 650M
The man has over a billion in cash.
Sold 70% of tidal 320m, sold half of dusse for over 500m
Choke said Jayz is not running roc nation, is he supposed to? He has people employed to do that job.
Choke said if live nation cuts Jayz off he won’t be a billionaire
Jayz doesnt even tour no more
The life nation deal was built around jayzs touring. They gave him 200m which he out grew years ago.
His house in California is worth 200m
Choke no joke hates Jayz more than he loves himself
Don’t forget about Uncle Sam…
@@josephkanu2778don’t forget about Uncle Sam
Broke ppl throwing out numbers. Just because it says 650 or 315 million doesn't mean it is straight cash. Could be stock options. Could be other assets as well. Think 🤔 about it.
@@ralphmack8590 Its neat riders🤣🤣🤣
Big 🧢 Dame created Blu "Roc" records after Rocafella ended. What happened to Team Roc , Armadale vodka , DDMG , Dash motors , Pro Keds?? Choke the joke graduated with flying colors straight out of Dame Dash's hate 101 university. Somebody needs call TyTy on him again😂
💯🎯
Choke still got his cap and gown somewhere at the house 😂
Don't forget CEO clothing, Rachel Roy, etc. Fail, fail, fail!
Jayz was jaz-o hypeman before dame.
This generation of rap is ending every success story in the game with R.I.C.O. indictments. I wonder how good Ty Ty will look when it all falls down. 🤔
This the best explanation Choke ever gave about the split
lol man he don’t know about jay z deals
Jay has proven to be far more successful than choke. That aint no joke. 😂
Irrelevant, you are having a different conversation
Great interview.
Choke saying it now but didn't say any of it back then when it was all good on his side. Jay took control of his art & didn't allow Dame to use him which is commendable, it's nothing more to say.
who did he allow to use it?
He's exactly right because when Jay z and Rockefeller was on 25th street or John Street I remember the way he was he's really a negative energy person
Wow u took it back to the original office of on john street u r a true og salute those were the days
How was he acting then?
That's opinions and you mistake your emotions for energy haha
I never seen him at the new office on 8th ave (Roc Boy 2001-200)
I'm a new subscriber. Because of this GREAT!! INTERESTING INTERVIEWS.
Anything can be true. However, we are at the height of clout chasing, where someone who knows somebody, who knows somebody, who knows somebody’s cousin can spread a story. Before long, there be 20,000 UA-cam videos swearing that this person is telling the whole truth. (This dude looks kinda cash strap to me) I just think we need to support claims with evidence. I’m not going to believe something just because some ONE person says it.
To be honest choke sounds like a hater from way back .. if I was Jay I would’ve did the same thang .. it looks like it became a toxic friendship/Business relationship.. I think choke is mad .. he’s not on Hov team .. bye
Big facts 💯
“This ain’t no “hate jay” train!” But he’s a sucka…”
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Choke spoke str8 FACTS he told no LIES...
This dude been hating Jay-Z for years. His legacy will be the biggest hater because that's all I know him for...
😂😂😂😂
Business description and difference btwn Jay z and Dame is accurate tho.
Truth isn’t hate.
Jayz is a sucka though too many people say the same thing
His legacy is for being a RAT. LOOK IT UP
Ok I am sorry but if saying jay isn't good at something and he is a billionaire and dame is struggling.
He snaked his own ppl and lied saying he wanted to retire
@@ethanedwards9718 ok he didn't lie about retiring. Def jam wouldn't of done the deal with rocafella unless he agreed to putting out an certain amount of albums . So he couldn't retire. SMH
Jay Z Black Balled Dame. Bosses gets Black Balled too
Did you not listen to the interview or are you that slow to comprehend?
@@davidwicks7257 no one black balled dame he burned his own bridges. They knew Jay z was his only asset .
EVERYBODY on rockafella made millions. Jay didn’t spend their money 😂😂LOL😂😂 He’s the reason they broke? He’s
Supposed to keep rapping to keep them on? Man y’all sound crazy
This Guy.... 50 cent he's coming ... yall better flood the market now ...
Loving Choke for the knowledge
Nobody’s on jay-z nuts more than this guy..
FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🤫
Nah….DeHaven is 10000 time worse
I say humblebeast3434 is on Jay-Z nuts more‼️🤔🤷🏿♂️🎯💯💯
Jay-Z supports never see the larger picture on why blacks never win.
2:55 these are the same type of dudes that are mad they can’t go shopping anymore on another man’s dime!
B/c he speaking the truth?
Lmfao. That's what you see?!?!?! I see a dude who's not 🍆 Ridin. And is pulling the sheet off the mirror. That's a Wizard of Oz reference btw.
@@rootofallevihe’s speaking from a point of contention. Jay got someone to break his jaw back in the day because of that tape.
@@Prufofcncpt but he was there so he knows the facts. Jayz gpt a million lawyers, believe me ,if he was.luin he would have got some push back from the courts or lawsuits by now
@@rootofallevi 🤷🏾♂️
Dame kept the Roc alive when Jay "retired". Young Gunz, Dipset, State Prop, Kanye, ODB, NORE, Rell, Allen Anthony, Nicole Wray Denim. It was Dame puttin' out compilations, the Warrior mixtapes, and was involved in all the projects. Bleek said Jay was mad Dame was doin' movies and too many side venues. Now look where all of Jay's time goes.
Do white people talk about each other as much as black celebs?
One thing about white folks… I lived in a few white neighborhoods… they’re more empowering to one another than anything else. I remember when my family first moved to one neighborhood the white folks introduced themselves and asked my sister what she does… when she told them nothing, they came back with step by step what she needed to do and she went to Rutgers University for 4yrs for free, then went right back n got her masters n never paid.
Since I came to America, I’ve never experienced something like that from another black folk…
Yes. There are like thousands of podcasts. Stop deifying wyt ppl😂
Yes they do
@@jibrilbuilder2668 you say that, but can't provide any examples of big platforms where white celebs routinely talk shit about other white celebs. When was the last major white celeb beef? Jonny Depp and Amber Heard?
They may talk shit about Trump, but that's politics.
Kkkkkk eeeeshi 😢 sad
I been said the elite be handing out titles
YEAH, NOBODY THEY SAY HAS ALL THAT BIG MONEY ON FORBES LIST THAT IS BLACK REALLY HAS THAT KIND OF MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then, when the elite done with you, you gon’ try and cry racism. Nah. #imnotblackimoj
Joke No Coke is chasing down fame; the fact that this dude is everywhere is Wild!
If this is the energy of these men at this age could you imagine how they were 25 years ago. The talent saw the toxicity around him and plotted his exit to greener pastures. If Jay was still there guess what there would still be hate for him
As he got on a button up 😂
What’s wrong with button up?
@@vinobeans9542 cause he's wearing one
He’s in his 50s TF is he supposed to wear?…..
@@antoniocrosby976omg he was knocking jayz for wearing a button up but he wearing a button up were you listening or did you jus choose to comment without context
One thing about Choke he’s gonna tell the RocaFella Story from front to back. Well Said. Jay to me isn’t doing nothing more than what the actual Rockerfellers did.
Choke No Joke... You know Jay's inner working of his business even though you were the crash out dummy 20 years ago. Hustling is hustling and apparently Dame has made bad decisions regarding his finances.
The entitlement is crazy…
Craaaazy
Hella crazy
What entitlement? Choke aint say anything that sounds like he feels like Jay owes him something or he didnt get things that he was supposed to get from being around him. He's speaking to Jay character not specific things he feel Jay did to him. What does he sound like he's entitled to. Niggas love Jay so much that nigga will refuse to see him in any light thats not positive.
Facts are burnin ya'll ninjas.
He don't got nothing else going for him so he can't help but reminisce.. Jay got older and didn't wanna be surrounded by the boys on the block 24/7.. GET OVER IT
Choke spoke facts‼️🎯
Lol what's so wrong with Jay Z wanting to branch off and do his own thing lol
Did you hear what he said? It’s more than wanting to branch off… it’s him liquidating an entire business…
@@Rg11195 lol Jay was the business once he left the business wasn't going to be worth anything
Ding Ding Ding 🔔@@marqueswilliams345
he got dame blackballed to help himself
He literally stated he wants to stay with the big corporations and not do his own thing.
Jay-Z put Rihanna, and Ne yo on as a ceo
No that was LA Reid actually
He put j Cole on as well .. meanwhile dame hasn’t even put himself on since the split
@@theflyguy1979Rihanna was signed in Jayzs office. After she sang for Jayz beyonce was there she told him to sign her.
La Reid signed jeezy and Ross Jay signed Rihanna and Neyo
@@josephkanu2778 but its La Reid who discovered Rihanna and believed in her, without him Jay dont signed rihanna
Happened at 3am too. Guess theres a bigger force
JAY LIKE "WHO PUT DIS THANG 2GEHTER ME DATTS WHO" SCARFACE VOICE 😂😂😂LMCPGMARLEY TAPPING IN💯
It’s how someone who has not done anything for himself except talk about Jay and Roc-A-Fella has the guts to talk about people who are actually creating wealth 😂
Awesome guest who speaks his truth but the interviewer can do so much better smh
I’ll wait til the whole jawn hits UA-cam!!
Now let’s talk about what’s not being said: how Dame was warned to change,failing to prepare for cooprate changes , going to the person who directly coordinated the meeting , failing to pay taxes or child support indicating misuse of funds personal and business .
Hov goons broke choke jaw back in the day and he never retaliated
what was he going to do?!
Choke the joke also got his low definition camcorder broke on that day and been out of business ever since 😂
Government got goons too. If they can get to Diddy, they can get to Jay.
Either way he still keep it real about jay don’t hate on brah now 😂
HOmeboy Interviewing him Aint Believing it LOL
hahahaha all you hear is mhm...mhm....
People will believe anything on the internet
"Who taught you to hate yourself" - The Honorable Malcolm X.
I have no respect for J...
You don’t know jay clown 🤡
@@bodelo767gang2 And you support the betrayal of Brotherhood. We all know who the real 🤡
This dude is what you would call a temp worker at the job, he didn't work directly for the ROC, he worked for Dame to record the day to day of his life at that time. Dame didn't even let him film no of those ROC movies, just a tag along for Dame. The best thing Choke ever did was record The Tunnel on Sundays, and put that documentary out.
Temp worker or not, his camera was always rolling, so essentially he was the proverbial fly on the wall. So hell yes he is a credible source. It is obvious Jay did his guys dirty, we should no longer have debates over that issue, even a child could connect the dots. What we should debate though is whether or not he had valid reasons to do so.
@@Justice777Allah how did he do his guys dirty, when the day ones and some others like Freeway, Jaz O and some others are still with him in RocNation? Those others were Dame people's, so of course cats going to say shit. Choke talked shit about Dame and still do, he's just can't let go of it. I understand he got jumped and still probably holds a grudge towards Jay, but come on man, that was 20 plus years ago.
You may be right but he was RIGHT There! He had direct inside knowledge that most people was not privy to and his pov is interesting to say the least. He really broke down the difference between Dame & Jay in a real way.
@@Justice777Allahbut you can tell he is bias and he was only a fly on Dame selective walls. He wasn’t with dame all the time and he certainly wasn’t with Jay so even with that proximity, he still was limited. Proximity does not always mean total access. There’s level.
WtF are you hefe¿ Lmmfao
They gotta stop giving these homeless people a platform shit sad
And you gotta stop giving rim jobs 😅
FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🤘🏽😆🍿 Facts…!
You all said the same thing about Puff when Gene Deal first came on the scene explaining the real....
You what dude has done since the Roc you should do your research
Rockefella ended because JayZ was the artist and he was tired of people eating off his work plain and simple
As Jay said , If you made Jay. Make another one...What is Dam doing, What are All of Rock A Fella doing....
Like dame said why would he make another one to betray him the same. Dame got multiple businesses he Great
He did his name is Kanye
He couldn't get distribution. Jay had him blackballed.
Nas: “I rock hoez y’all rock fellas..” 👀
@@YolandaSutton-np9cjlet’s not forget how Dame put Cam’ron in charge of ROC-a-Fella when Jayz was on vacation
Didn’t Dame admit to stealing from Jay?
$400K, but he's just dumb enough to not realize he talks too much
Y’all can say what y’all want or feel however you want, but it’s some Truth to what Choke is saying…….
Your right, Choke is speaking facts!