But it's not like kill conrad or clementine! It's the most rational option * Conrad (a good guy) lives * Theoretically persuading new frontier to give Kate medical treatment is more likely (They don't ask you to tie your hands and such) * I read from somewhere that you still can make Clementine trust you.
Orhun Sevindi Conrad clearly isn't that much of a "good guy" considering the fact that he grabbed Gabe as leverage against Javi. That coupled with the fact that I would also choose Clem over anyone else just put me over the tipping point and for me it was a no brainer to shoot him.
Here's the thing: In real life, anyone unhinged enough to try to kill a kid that can't defend himself in order to sacrifice another kid is actually going to be extremely dangerous in the long run. Anyone willing to do that is willing to do anything. That's where people are coming from in a lot of cases when they don't understand why someone wouldn't shoot Conrad. On a gameplay front, it might make sense, but in a roleplaying sense, it makes none because TWD can surprise you in really awful ways.
Actually he does. If you don't make a decision, he shoots Gabe and then Javi. He is 100% willing to kill a kid because he won't get his way, and not just the kid, but also unnecessarily killing you (Javi). I prefer the option of shooting him because like Chayyiel said, if he's willing to do that, he's willing to do anything. You can't trust somebody like that.
Kael Honeyman yea, let's just let the man who was willing to put a gun to your nephew the day after your niece died. he's definitely stable and trustworthy enough
BrunetteBirdENG like he tried to reason before putting a gun to your nephews head? oh yea, if you don't shoot him or agree with him, he kills both you and your nephew
The amount of people that have gotten legit real life mad at me because I chose to try and keep Conrad alive rather than get brownie points with Clementine is amazing lol.
I wish we had seen Clem's reaction to the dad comment. That would have made the scene priceless. But we have to wait for the next episode for that though.
Royal Redemption boy...use your brain. Why would you kill Conrad for no legitimate reason? if you kill him then Clem just runs away and if you don't then Clem just gets handed in anyways but Conrad is still there.
Alpha Shall rise no legitimate reason? first thing he threatened to blow gabes brain out, he obviously doesn't care about Gabe or david well being and his willing to kill to get what he wants that alone is enough reason to shoot Conrad. the second reason how the fuck can you betray clementine.
Sam Haifa And after choosing the "accept the plan" option thingy,you get to pick the "she's a friend" and "I don't want to do this" options,which makes me feel at least a bit better
Yeah, but you have to know Conrad is at his worst right now; he lost his bar, his home, his wife, and any friends who didn't make it out of Prescott. THEN one of the main people who can be connected to this mess also happens to be in the gang that murdered his wife and took his home, and let's not forget Gabe points a gun at Conrad first and he's got no actual reason compared to Conrad. At the end of the day Conrad would be sacrificing even more if he just let Clem go, and if she doesn't value her life then he needs Javi to back him up. For his position he'd have to be an absolute saint to just let Clem run off while they risk everything just to survive.
The people getting mad at your original choice are those emotionally attached to Clem (I know, I am too). The problem with that is your making choices as yourself and not as Javi, cause remember, we're playing as Javi. Not Kenny, or even Clem. Javi has an obligation to do what's right by his family, and from what he knows, Clem can take care of herself. The problem is we as players know Clem so much but we haven't had enough time to get attached to the Garcias.
The issue with the perspective logic is that Conrad still put a gun up to gabe and was more than willing to shoot and I know that if someone tried to do that to someone I know I would shoot them
@@faded_specter6495 yeah but Javi also just recently learned that Clem lied and was part of new frontier so it kinda makes betraying her to gain access probable.
It doesn't really matter what you choose to do with Conrad he's dead anyway. Whenever a character is presented with a scenario where death is a possibility then that means they're marked for death.
That's just not true. There have been characters several times that have a chance to die, but can be saved, and then never die in the story. The prince in The Wolf Among Us is an example that comes to mind right away. Same with one of the twins in TWAU. Another is Harvey's Assistant in Batman. If I recall, Game of Thrones also has some characters that can be spared and never die.
Yeah they don't die but once they're presented with an opportunity for death, those characters become irrelevant in the later chapters. At most they provide a few dialogue choices, but the story arcs don't shift if they are alive. The most effect I've seen occur was from TWAU, and even then it simply occurred at the very end.
After playing Episode 5, I think sparing Conrad is the wise choice here. Not only Conrad will survive at the end but also Clem will still forgive you if you stayed on her good side.
Exactly, I guess at the time, people didn’t know but looking at the whole story. Clementine will always be ok anyway so might as well use that to your advantage. And unless you think that too meta, it is an strategy to do what you think is right first then ask forgiveness later
To me it seems like the only thing separating some one from shooting Conrad is pride and loyalty. Not wanting to backstab Clem or make Clem hate you vs losing an asset to the team. However, I still chose to shoot him. He had a kid hostage with a gun pointing at another, in real life that's an instant death with zero regret. He snapped and how do you know it wasn't written to happen again but this time with no way out.
hypocrite much? You still chose to shoot him because "he had a kid hostage with a gun pointing at another"... Come on man, if you have at least a little bit of decency common sense left, you would know he was bluffing. Unless perhaps you don't have a single ounce of sense left in ya?
Im sorry but Conrad was loosing it. He gave Clem that death stare exactly like Arvo did in season 2. We learned our lesson from Arvo, these kind of people are dangerous. He blamed Clem and possibly even Jarvi for what happened to Francine. So i didnt want risking it and making the same mistake we did with Arvo by keeping him around. Also taking my nephew hostage isnt gonna give him bonus points.
Clementine was an idiot. She shouldn't have been talking out loud to Javier about her connection to the New Front Tier. She should have just left and not said anything. Then none of this would have happened.
***** Yeah it would make Clementine an asshole to just leave without saying anything. She owned it to Javier to apologize to him and to tell him the truth cause he backed her up and covered for her so yeah.
I did the exact same because no-one hurts my Gabe and Clem! I feel like Gabriel will be a very emotional character with thoughts and feelings... until he dies, of course.
Same, fuck Conrad. I shot him cuz of his actions, threatening Javi with Gabe's life. I've told others that he didn't make it, in order to not cause any ruckus. White or black, i don't give a sh*t but if a person goes nuts like this, imma crack that nut open fam.
Conrad got it wrong. Remember when he said Clementine got bit. Well if you rewind to season two it is a bitemark from the dog. So if you are scared it is just a dog bitemark.
People were so determined to kill Conrad, but it seems I was right about him being a good man. He regrets his actions in episode 3, and even comes to save your life in episode 4. He even dies for you if you're not fast enough yourself.
I understand why people don't want to kill him but I killed him because clementine is my friend and I don't want something to happen to her. so if I have to choose between him and clementine I'm choosing clementine 100% no questions asked. not saying he deserves to die or anything like that but I'm not letting anything happen to her
That's where I find the problem. You would wanna help Clem cause we know her so well. But Javi should more invested in Kate and Gabe, knowing that Clem can fend for herself.
But Javier should already know that trading for Clem wont work because she ran from New Frontier, and probably fucked them over so the only value she can be for them is vengence. Now we even know why she was robbing the Frontier's truck in the begenning. I shot Conrad without hesitation, and I didn't do that just because it was Clementie he threatened. You just don't do what Conrad did. That deserves a bullet to the head anytime.
I don't condone killing someone unless it's absolutely necessary. yeah he doesn't deserve to die but neither does gabe or clementine. he was a threat to them.
Piotr Mittag Hey, you have a point bro. I just wanted to point out that I like to think from the shoes of the protagonist of the game. Something many people aren't doing cause they are so protective of Clem (believe me, I'm just as protective of her). As i'm trying to make Javi a good guy, I accepted the plan (just to keep Conrad alive, I'd rather he die from Walkers rather than by me, resulting in me having to lie to Tripp and Jesus.) and hope to GOD there was a way I could get her out of there with us.
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One thing character that pisses me off is Gabe. He actually gets pissed if you don't shoot Conrad yet the little prick rats you out later if you did shoot Conrad and also gets so pissy about it. And I won't ever pick another character over Clementine.
Yup overall good call in your original playthrough. Yes Clem kind of hated you for it, but there was a lot less tension and banter at the gates. Thanks so much for showing us this alternate ending!
MissMCCakeBlox that's why i wouldn't know what to do..I said shoot him just out of the tension and its because of the moment but then now I see this, I'd probably change my mind
***** No that is true but still sometimes you need cannon fodder and i dont like to use the ones i do like so.. why not possibly keep the unlikables and throw them out there y'know?
Notice that if you get an option to shoot someone e.g. (Conrad) there is a chance that he will die anyway later in the game no matter what, and i feel like Conrad isnt a character thats going to stick around for long, he seems weak due to the lost of francine.
ZeGameingBruh2006 1 Theres no reason to, keep everyone alive 2 Clem is an MC so she'll be fine 3 He could be a great asset in ep3 4 Shooting him allows clem to leave and Id rather have an angry clem around then no clem at all tbh
slash in smash Ok, but he's alive now. My goal with telltale games is always to keep everyone alive, especially if theyre harmless like Conrad (Fuck gabe tho, Id kill him). Mariana death is canon. Its up to u to keep the outliers alive
Yeah you can't really say it's a good decision "in the long run" because the remaining episodes aren't even out yet. For all we know, Conrad might betray us again later on.
It's seems to me that accepting the plan is the better option. I mean, Clem will hate you but she'll probably forgive you if you chose "She's a friend" during the front gate scene. Gabe get mad but he's a bloody unstable teenager which makes his mood unpredictable. Conrad is a loose canon but he may have redeeming qualities in the future.
Draugen I regret killing Conrad. I was deciding if it'd be worth to keep Conrad alive, but he'd might lose his shit cuz of all of the shit that's happened to him. So I thought saving Gabe and Clem was better, now that I saw that you can go with Conrad's plan but not betray Clementine like a bitch, I regret killing him.
its an error of Teltale, they made the animation for the scenario she was to be turned in (and therefore was there), and didn't make one in case she took off.
I'm a little skeptical about doing Conrad's plan, but as long as he stays alive and you kind of make it up to Clementine at the end, I think I might take this route.
Everyone should accept the plan even if you are a big fan of clementine it won't affect your relationship with her if you accept the plan and Conrad becomes a good person in episode 3 apologizing for what he has done and he even sacrafice his own life for you in Episode 4 if you don't dodge the truck in time he will push you out the way and let himself get hit instead
this whole conrad thing reminds me of season 1 when lily(i believe that was her name) went bat shit crazy after losing a loved one and became super suspicious over everyone and killed an innocent person and you had to decided whether or not to leave/kill her or take her with you. Conrad lost someone close and threatened someone's life and you are basically having to make the same choice, leave conrad, or go along with his crazy
In my first play through I didn’t shoot Conrad purely because he didn’t know clementine that long and if listening to his plan meant saving gabe and the rest of javiers family then so be it. When they’re crawling through Richmond clementine helps and is still friends with javi anyway 😂
(IDEA) If you noticed, at the end of the video, that long-haired man beside the guy Clementine Bad-Finger-Pointed to was the same guy who shot Edith from the flashback when you chose to go into Wellington and leave Kenny. 😮
SpicyFoodz Gamerz (why cant i erase this comment? i noticed it wasnt lonnie, but they looked kinda the same, at least as i remember him..) ye, i noticed that too, its the black guy you mean and his friends called him Lonnie
***** ye i noticed that now. but i also noticed that the same guy that shot Edith is killed multiple times later on, for example when they brake into Prescott you shoot him outside the gates, but hes still standing on the wall in the end of episode 2. btw, u gonna call me a racist now? :D
***** ye, TTG were a little lazy in this season, when the new frontier release the walkers into Prescott, you can see the same guy/girl getting killed 3 times. But how does that make me racist though?
But why would anyone turn Clem in? I mean we started with her in the first game, why would we betray her? She's the OG. Besides, it's not like she was still with the New Frontier.
You should make a video of what were to happen: If you went down there or open fire, for when the people show up to Prescott Gate. Would it change much?
I didn't like these choices much, I feel bad for shooting Conrad but I feel bad for betraying Clementine and getting hated by her and Gabe too, I went with shooting Conrad, so he could be with Francine
Reasons I shot Conrad Killing Conrad seemed like the better choice to me here for several reasons, He already has it out for Javi the man straight blames us for Francine's death and i'm too distrustful of him just letting bygones be bygones. He had a gun to Gabes head which shows how willing his is to get what he wants if the situation demands it, cant keep him around to pull stunts like that. He saved me like once, Clem saved me several times so far. But by far one of my most important reasons... Trust. Its easier to lose trust then build it, it took most of these episodes to build trust and a "Friendship" with Clementine, I have no real friendship with Conrad nor did I trust him. I'd rather save Clem who's got my back regardless over Conrad who will most likely save his own ass
devontea broadway which is all your doing. This all happened because of you so you can't blame him for being a shithead,especially after losing his lover...in a fucked up way.
@@BenDaGoat not everyone are the same, people have different personal and mental health, the developers build the charater in this game do the same like real life, can you use your brain?
Vetro45 85 david probaly wont believe it nearly exactly the same fight in episode 1 except for david will say how did u let her die kate wakes up and says its true david realizes maybe kisses kate then hugs gabe gets them inside then kills someone in like an office then becomes like carver😦 but probaly not
Love how the ending of Episode 2 shows David watching in front of him as if Telltale didnt even bother to make his model look down for the "Hands behind your head" choice.
It's not that we want to kill, it's that we love Clem. I get that we're playing as Javi and that we shouldn't let our feelings for Clem be the basis of our decision making but Conrad literally put a gun up to Gabe's face and threatened his life right after both Javi and Gabe had just lost Mariana because he didn't want to be reasonable or understanding. His judgment was clouded by the death of his partner but does that excuse his behavior? Put yourself in Javi's shoes. If someone put a gun up to my brother's face and threatened his life over a misconception, especially in a time where family means everything, I wouldn't think twice about blowing his head off. He betrayed our trust way before we betrayed Clem's (if you chose to betray her).
Even though I knew some of my choices didn't sit well with my morals I found myself doing whatever clementine asked me to do. When they held Conrads girlfriend hostage I was gonna give myself up til Clem was like "we better start shooting." Then I'm just like "K". I think telltale did this on purpose. They know players are attached to Clem and that will influence their decisions even when siding when clementine is clearly the wrong choice.
"Not sooner then enough." and the middle finger wow Clementine has change soo much. a few years ago when s1 come out i remember when Clem would get frustrated with say "Swear!" when Lee says a rude word in the barn, now she like this harden and a badass. You go girl! ^_^ what an amazing character thanks to TTG for creating Clementine.
Let's just think, we wouldn't have gotten involved with the New Frontier if Gabe didn't open the goddamn pudding.
The proof is in the pudding.
Pineal Revelations
lmao
Gosh dang it gabe its because of you your sister died!!,
But we would of never saw Clementine
But, while driving our ugly van, Clementine would try to take it over.
I didn't want to kill Conrad but I would choose Clem over any character in this game.
But it's not like kill conrad or clementine! It's the most rational option
* Conrad (a good guy) lives
* Theoretically persuading new frontier to give Kate medical treatment is more likely (They don't ask you to tie your hands and such)
* I read from somewhere that you still can make Clementine trust you.
Orhun Sevindi I just didn't want to see Clementine get hurt. But you've got a good point.
Orhun Sevindi Conrad clearly isn't that much of a "good guy" considering the fact that he grabbed Gabe as leverage against Javi. That coupled with the fact that I would also choose Clem over anyone else just put me over the tipping point and for me it was a no brainer to shoot him.
Lee kenny clem marlon rosie javi my favs
Clementine and Javi are the best characters in S3 without a doubt
Here's the thing: In real life, anyone unhinged enough to try to kill a kid that can't defend himself in order to sacrifice another kid is actually going to be extremely dangerous in the long run. Anyone willing to do that is willing to do anything. That's where people are coming from in a lot of cases when they don't understand why someone wouldn't shoot Conrad. On a gameplay front, it might make sense, but in a roleplaying sense, it makes none because TWD can surprise you in really awful ways.
EXACTLY! Especially when your character just lost his other niece
Actually he does. If you don't make a decision, he shoots Gabe and then Javi. He is 100% willing to kill a kid because he won't get his way, and not just the kid, but also unnecessarily killing you (Javi). I prefer the option of shooting him because like Chayyiel said, if he's willing to do that, he's willing to do anything. You can't trust somebody like that.
@@Rinkkou Later, he sacrifices himself for Javi if you let him
That is actually a fair point
He evolved as a character after this. You'd know if you kept him alive throughout episode 4.
No-one has to die. Don't shoot him I'd say.
But this is telltale, so he'll probably be killed anyways
Yeah...
Kael Honeyman if there's a decision to kill someone there marked for death they will die eventually
Kael Honeyman yea, let's just let the man who was willing to put a gun to your nephew the day after your niece died. he's definitely stable and trustworthy enough
BrunetteBirdENG like he tried to reason before putting a gun to your nephews head? oh yea, if you don't shoot him or agree with him, he kills both you and your nephew
You couldn't know this, if you was Javier, and not the player... -_- Put yourself in his situation.
The amount of people that have gotten legit real life mad at me because I chose to try and keep Conrad alive rather than get brownie points with Clementine is amazing lol.
Can you show what happens if you didn't follow what Max said? Thanks.
I wish we had seen Clem's reaction to the dad comment. That would have made the scene priceless. But we have to wait for the next episode for that though.
SwingPoynt I like Conrad but cleme comes first
Noble Six. always
she wouldn't have a reaction dude she already knew he was the leader but she doesn't know that it is his brother
how can anyone who played the first 2 seasons betray Clem
Royal Redemption boy...use your brain. Why would you kill Conrad for no legitimate reason? if you kill him then Clem just runs away and if you don't then Clem just gets handed in anyways but Conrad is still there.
Alpha Shall rise not to kill him just don't betray her
Alpha Shall rise no legitimate reason? first thing he threatened to blow gabes brain out, he obviously doesn't care about Gabe or david well being and his willing to kill to get what he wants that alone is enough reason to shoot Conrad. the second reason how the fuck can you betray clementine.
Sam Haifa And after choosing the "accept the plan" option thingy,you get to pick the "she's a friend" and "I don't want to do this" options,which makes me feel at least a bit better
Yeah, but you have to know Conrad is at his worst right now; he lost his bar, his home, his wife, and any friends who didn't make it out of Prescott. THEN one of the main people who can be connected to this mess also happens to be in the gang that murdered his wife and took his home, and let's not forget Gabe points a gun at Conrad first and he's got no actual reason compared to Conrad.
At the end of the day Conrad would be sacrificing even more if he just let Clem go, and if she doesn't value her life then he needs Javi to back him up. For his position he'd have to be an absolute saint to just let Clem run off while they risk everything just to survive.
The people getting mad at your original choice are those emotionally attached to Clem (I know, I am too). The problem with that is your making choices as yourself and not as Javi, cause remember, we're playing as Javi. Not Kenny, or even Clem. Javi has an obligation to do what's right by his family, and from what he knows, Clem can take care of herself. The problem is we as players know Clem so much but we haven't had enough time to get attached to the Garcias.
The issue with the perspective logic is that Conrad still put a gun up to gabe and was more than willing to shoot and I know that if someone tried to do that to someone I know I would shoot them
@@faded_specter6495 yeah but Javi also just recently learned that Clem lied and was part of new frontier so it kinda makes betraying her to gain access probable.
Betray Clementine for what? This man just pointed a gun at two children. Why the fuck would you not shoot him
@@ruouy3453 yeah but Conrad shoots gabe if you don't do anything.
@@EjsjchxbbwI found that out the hard way...
It doesn't really matter what you choose to do with Conrad he's dead anyway. Whenever a character is presented with a scenario where death is a possibility then that means they're marked for death.
That's just not true. There have been characters several times that have a chance to die, but can be saved, and then never die in the story. The prince in The Wolf Among Us is an example that comes to mind right away. Same with one of the twins in TWAU. Another is Harvey's Assistant in Batman. If I recall, Game of Thrones also has some characters that can be spared and never die.
SwingPoynt well then that's only the case for TWD other telltale games didn't interest me
Yeah they don't die but once they're presented with an opportunity for death, those characters become irrelevant in the later chapters. At most they provide a few dialogue choices, but the story arcs don't shift if they are alive. The most effect I've seen occur was from TWAU, and even then it simply occurred at the very end.
+NothinButRags not really Bonnie dies if you don't break the ice in time but if you save her she lives throughout the episode until she leaves
NightIMarEx1 so she either dies or leaves almost immediately after they cross the lake.
After playing Episode 5, I think sparing Conrad is the wise choice here. Not only Conrad will survive at the end but also Clem will still forgive you if you stayed on her good side.
Not only is he determinant, he’s TRIPLE determinant! It’s AWESOME!!!
Exactly, I guess at the time, people didn’t know but looking at the whole story. Clementine will always be ok anyway so might as well use that to your advantage. And unless you think that too meta, it is an strategy to do what you think is right first then ask forgiveness later
And you know you're in the deepest fuck when you killed your boss's daughter !
and shot his ex wife!
A missing wife i believe . :)
10:16 "Accept the plan" starts here.
thank u omg
Gabe turned into clementine 4:30. Lol
nelson steven you're right...when javi picks up kate on the top left side of the car the gabe shows up
nelson steven Gabe doesn't become Clem...if you look close, Gabe is right next to Clem
RichGuy27 yah but when javi shot conrad clem left tp hide and she appeared there so it might have neen a game glitch
RichGuy27 been*
Pursuit_Magnum I wouldn't think that, otherwise
To me it seems like the only thing separating some one from shooting Conrad is pride and loyalty. Not wanting to backstab Clem or make Clem hate you vs losing an asset to the team.
However, I still chose to shoot him. He had a kid hostage with a gun pointing at another, in real life that's an instant death with zero regret. He snapped and how do you know it wasn't written to happen again but this time with no way out.
hypocrite much? You still chose to shoot him because "he had a kid hostage with a gun pointing at another"...
Come on man, if you have at least a little bit of decency common sense left, you would know he was bluffing. Unless perhaps you don't have a single ounce of sense left in ya?
Eric Kim if you choose to do nothing he shoots Gabe and then Javier, so no, he wasn't bluffing.
Im sorry but Conrad was loosing it. He gave Clem that death stare exactly like Arvo did in season 2. We learned our lesson from Arvo, these kind of people are dangerous. He blamed Clem and possibly even Jarvi for what happened to Francine. So i didnt want risking it and making the same mistake we did with Arvo by keeping him around. Also taking my nephew hostage isnt gonna give him bonus points.
Clementine was an idiot. She shouldn't have been talking out loud to Javier about her connection to the New Front Tier. She should have just left and not said anything. Then none of this would have happened.
*****
Yeah it would make Clementine an asshole to just leave without saying anything.
She owned it to Javier to apologize to him and to tell him the truth cause he backed her up and covered for her so yeah.
at 4:32 you can see Clementine at one of the windows
lol wtf
That is a big mistake made there
FricoHUN That's not a mistake
It is, since she stands with the group from that angle, even though she ran off
it's also at 13:44 so i assume that is just an error Telltale overlooked
oh i shot conrad immediately lol
I did the exact same because no-one hurts my Gabe and Clem! I feel like Gabriel will be a very emotional character with thoughts and feelings... until he dies, of course.
Chloala You racist bitch.
Same, fuck Conrad. I shot him cuz of his actions, threatening Javi with Gabe's life. I've told others that he didn't make it, in order to not cause any ruckus. White or black, i don't give a sh*t but if a person goes nuts like this, imma crack that nut open fam.
AzimTheGamer clem is black too whats ur point troll
Dill Pickle uhhh yeah she is? have you seen her parents?
Conrad got it wrong. Remember when he said Clementine got bit. Well if you rewind to season two it is a bitemark from the dog. So if you are scared it is just a dog bitemark.
Osvaldo Aguilera actually Nicholas body fell on top of Clementine so she didn't get bit
_Antonio Whisper_ I remember his death but the bite mark is from the dog that got mad at you
Osvaldo Aguilera it was a joke
whatttt where does he say that? what time of the vid?
the bitemark was on her forehand, where there's a massive stitched scar running across it.
based on how telltale does things im wiling to bet that conrad dies anyway :/
Fraydizs so in that case i could of shot him instead of letting him live
Sherrie Brewster same he was being irrational anyway
thats the theorm. when you have the choice to kill someone, they will die eventually.
Tweedledum/dee (I forget which) from The Wolf Among Us. Never dies unless you decide to kill him.
That's walking dead not Telltale that does that, Wolf Among Us is a good recent example of the fact it is not Telltale as well as Minecraft Story Mode
You know I reckon Eleanor is New Frontier, it would explain both the scarf and the fact she's not present at the end
Sonny Hoy Very interesting, I second your theory.
Sonny Hoy oh yeah. So that's why Clem said she didn't trust her as much,because she be one of the mean kids.
I thought about it too. Would explain how they found Prescott so easily after the junkyard shootout.
imagine that is david's girlfriend 😂
People were so determined to kill Conrad, but it seems I was right about him being a good man. He regrets his actions in episode 3, and even comes to save your life in episode 4. He even dies for you if you're not fast enough yourself.
I understand why people don't want to kill him but I killed him because clementine is my friend and I don't want something to happen to her. so if I have to choose between him and clementine I'm choosing clementine 100% no questions asked. not saying he deserves to die or anything like that but I'm not letting anything happen to her
That's where I find the problem. You would wanna help Clem cause we know her so well. But Javi should more invested in Kate and Gabe, knowing that Clem can fend for herself.
But Javier should already know that trading for Clem wont work because she ran from New Frontier, and probably fucked them over so the only value she can be for them is vengence. Now we even know why she was robbing the Frontier's truck in the begenning.
I shot Conrad without hesitation, and I didn't do that just because it was Clementie he threatened. You just don't do what Conrad did. That deserves a bullet to the head anytime.
I don't condone killing someone unless it's absolutely necessary. yeah he doesn't deserve to die but neither does gabe or clementine. he was a threat to them.
Piotr Mittag Hey, you have a point bro. I just wanted to point out that I like to think from the shoes of the protagonist of the game. Something many people aren't doing cause they are so protective of Clem (believe me, I'm just as protective of her).
As i'm trying to make Javi a good guy, I accepted the plan (just to keep Conrad alive, I'd rather he die from Walkers rather than by me, resulting in me having to lie to Tripp and Jesus.) and hope to GOD there was a way I could get her out of there with us.
fullhousefrek i chose to shot him for a very simple reason. WHO THE F*** PUTS A GUN TO A KID'S HEAD, like seriously what the hell is wrong with him.
Jesus is hilarious
I want more of him
Lol if David finds out Badger killed Mariana he will rip him into pieces
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Yep
Rishit's Dazz yeah
Rishit's Dazz Yeah...
Rishit's Dazz lol
Rishit's Dazz
I actually want to see that happen lol
Damn the ending to Episode two was so unexpected, way too hyped for the third one!
Sleepyhollow
IKR
Sleepyhollow YES lol I don't want to wait until January or February to come out
Sleepyhollow btw when will episode 3 come out?
+Freddy Sirait 25th of January
Freddy Sirait February 7'th.
One thing character that pisses me off is Gabe. He actually gets pissed if you don't shoot Conrad yet the little prick rats you out later if you did shoot Conrad and also gets so pissy about it. And I won't ever pick another character over Clementine.
Since Conrad has the option to die in episode 2 I'm almost 100% sure he will die next episode or he'll just disappear from the storyline completely
I like this comment because of hindsight
Wrong
@@xxgamerxxyut1084 well no shit I know that, put that up four years ago💀
@@sasms_3488 oh yeah I didn’t see when you posted this lol
@@xxgamerxxyut1084 lol
Yup overall good call in your original playthrough. Yes Clem kind of hated you for it, but there was a lot less tension and banter at the gates. Thanks so much for showing us this alternate ending!
MissMCCakeBlox that's why i wouldn't know what to do..I said shoot him just out of the tension and its because of the moment but then now I see this, I'd probably change my mind
MissMCCakeBlox it does looks like she forgave Javier when he said she was their friend later on.
Plebasaurus Rekt Yeah she still has to be with us cos of the "thumbnail" of the fourth episode
4:36 this is so strange. Like JUST ''come here''... somethings going on
I know right?
Deeveeayy Yep.
In my playthrough i killed conrad in a heartbeat no regrets... Killed him because i gave 0 shits about him
so true
giorgos ntomaris Its just that i barely know anything about Conrad so i dont feel any sort of attachment for him
Exactly, but Clementine is important.
Ndustries True but i highly doubt they would Clem die.. not this early at least
***** No that is true but still sometimes you need cannon fodder and i dont like to use the ones i do like so.. why not possibly keep the unlikables and throw them out there y'know?
That black guy in white shirt in 16:43 was the one who killed Edith in the Wellignton flashback!
when you shot conrad and you got to the car to get kate look through the window you will see clementine 4:31
Notice that if you get an option to shoot someone e.g. (Conrad) there is a chance that he will die anyway later in the game no matter what, and i feel like Conrad isnt a character thats going to stick around for long, he seems weak due to the lost of francine.
Clarke k that's true, so it really wouldn't matter of you shoot him or not anyway..
it is matter, it matters on the players emotions and future relations :) I'm guessing.
Swooshy Hoovy ddxxsqueezebox
R U Sure !? 😂
Why the fuck would not shoot Conrad?!
ZeGameingBruh2006 Because just losing another ppl when you can avoid IT?
František Mrkus but it's CLEMENTINEEE
ZeGameingBruh2006
1 Theres no reason to, keep everyone alive
2 Clem is an MC so she'll be fine
3 He could be a great asset in ep3
4 Shooting him allows clem to leave and Id rather have an angry clem around then no clem at all tbh
-hans- tho he might dye in episode three anyway it alllways happen
slash in smash Ok, but he's alive now.
My goal with telltale games is always to keep everyone alive, especially if theyre harmless like Conrad (Fuck gabe tho, Id kill him).
Mariana death is canon. Its up to u to keep the outliers alive
this may have led to clem running away from the group but shes there at 4:31 i think this is a glitch
TheGamingGiraffe wow good spot
TheGamingGiraffe
nah maby it's just a little touch they added to remind us clem will always will be with us.
literally
TheGamingGiraffe God bless your eyes man cuz I didn't see her there 😂😂😂😂
4:30 you can see clementine in the top left corner! pause it on 4:31
James Markus oh yeah, just realised that
James Markus holy crap yes
´WTF THATS CREEPY o_o
James Markus I don't get it. I've seen people point that out but what's the big deal?
I’m with you swingy, I kept Conrad alive the whole season and I actually felt like it was the better option
I don't care if Clem was new frontier or not she's still my fuend from s1 and s2
4:30 so are we just gonna forget that at the corner Clementine is there?
Surely they just put Clem there by accident but what the heck?
"We don't leave friends behind"
- Season 1 clem.
I accepted Conrad's plans and I don't regret doing so
Because I made this call from Javier's perspective
What the fuck, did you see it?
4:20 - Clementine is outside the car XD
Holy shit thats crazy. :D
It was Gabe, and after the hug it truns into Clementine. I'm guessing they forgot to change that scene into "no Clementine".
Where?
I can't see her.
SuperSoup 4:31 to the left of Kate's head
Oh thanks.That expression on her face tho xD
Thanks for making the call you did swing and not shooting conrad. Good decision in the long run
how would you know? 😏
Yeah you can't really say it's a good decision "in the long run" because the remaining episodes aren't even out yet. For all we know, Conrad might betray us again later on.
It's seems to me that accepting the plan is the better option. I mean, Clem will hate you but she'll probably forgive you if you chose "She's a friend" during the front gate scene. Gabe get mad but he's a bloody unstable teenager which makes his mood unpredictable. Conrad is a loose canon but he may have redeeming qualities in the future.
Draugen I regret killing Conrad. I was deciding if it'd be worth to keep Conrad alive, but he'd might lose his shit cuz of all of the shit that's happened to him. So I thought saving Gabe and Clem was better, now that I saw that you can go with Conrad's plan but not betray Clementine like a bitch, I regret killing him.
If clementine is supposed to be gone after we shot Conrad...why can we see her standing by the window at 4:29?
She be creepin
its an error of Teltale, they made the animation for the scenario she was to be turned in (and therefore was there), and didn't make one in case she took off.
mpogias13 hey thanks for the information!
I'm a little skeptical about doing Conrad's plan, but as long as he stays alive and you kind of make it up to Clementine at the end, I think I might take this route.
at 04:32 you can clearly sees clementine in the background, just what the fuck ?
Said Alghifarix it's a glitch
Said Alghifarix spooky, she is just standing there
13:44, just an error i assume
that means that the real ending is keeping conrad alive (kappa)
How did you even spot that? I think clem is there cuz shes hiding ffrom the new frontier!
4:29 wtf who saw clementine in background
ShadowKiler9HD I DID SAW THAT WTF?!?!?!?
ShadowKiler9HD I started playing it and I didn' noticed xDDDDDD
clementine's ghost
I did to WTF,some bugg i think?!
Some said it was Gabe turned into Clem cause Gabe is on the right wich is a bug or a glitch
Everyone should accept the plan even if you are a big fan of clementine it won't affect your relationship with her if you accept the plan and Conrad becomes a good person in episode 3 apologizing for what he has done and he even sacrafice his own life for you in Episode 4 if you don't dodge the truck in time he will push you out the way and let himself get hit instead
Are you sure that if he betrayed Clementine it doesn't affect his relationship with her at all in the end?
this whole conrad thing reminds me of season 1 when lily(i believe that was her name) went bat shit crazy after losing a loved one and became super suspicious over everyone and killed an innocent person and you had to decided whether or not to leave/kill her or take her with you.
Conrad lost someone close and threatened someone's life and you are basically having to make the same choice, leave conrad, or go along with his crazy
Javier even says it after he accept. I'm srry clem but it's not worth taken another man's life.this series is all about keeping your humanity.
Eventually not shooting Conrad was the best option
I hate amount of people who hate this person who making the choice he want and other just straight up hating him for it, fuck all humanity
I appreciate your work, you're working day and night to bring us these awesome videos, You deserve a lot more. Amazing videos with Amazing commentary.
Did anyone else see Clemintine in the corner of the window before they left.
I wouldn't have shot Conrad, until he threatened to shoot Gabe.
In my first play through I didn’t shoot Conrad purely because he didn’t know clementine that long and if listening to his plan meant saving gabe and the rest of javiers family then so be it. When they’re crawling through Richmond clementine helps and is still friends with javi anyway 😂
I have what’s known common sense and didn’t shoot the grieving man in the face.
4:30 you can see clem on the right
when i was in school, they learnt me that that side is called "left"
Plebasaurus Rekt Clearly you need to go more
Potatoes Everywhere lol i dont know where all those "i" came from XD
First of all an I is always capitalized and second of all there was only one. So yes, you do need to listen more in school!
and taught too
4:31 look behind the window to the left you can see Clementine
Jimmy Crawford TF how is she there now?
I'm not sure it must be a bug I guess.
4:29 Clementine is in the background
i love how that works xD the second time, Gabe was in the background, but magically got replaced by Clem again lol
I can't believe you even thought about betraying clementine.
if nobody realized @4:30 Clementine is in the left hand corner of the screen
holy fuking shit thanks i did not see that thnx m8
I believe this is a "bug" as it seems they reuse the scene for both endings. She actually isn't supposed to be there.
(When francine died) FRANCINE *American dad intensifies
(IDEA)
If you noticed, at the end of the video, that long-haired man beside the guy Clementine Bad-Finger-Pointed to was the same guy who shot Edith from the flashback when you chose to go into Wellington and leave Kenny. 😮
I am reffering to the darker skinned man at the right...
YUR A JEENUS!
SpicyFoodz Gamerz (why cant i erase this comment? i noticed it wasnt lonnie, but they looked kinda the same, at least as i remember him..) ye, i noticed that too, its the black guy you mean and his friends called him Lonnie
***** ye i noticed that now. but i also noticed that the same guy that shot Edith is killed multiple times later on, for example when they brake into Prescott you shoot him outside the gates, but hes still standing on the wall in the end of episode 2. btw, u gonna call me a racist now? :D
***** ye, TTG were a little lazy in this season, when the new frontier release the walkers into Prescott, you can see the same guy/girl getting killed 3 times. But how does that make me racist though?
accept conrads plan and say at the gate shes a friend
It’s better to accept the plan because you can keep everyone alive in this game and Tripp won’t be mad at javi
Tripp aint even mad at Javi though.
4:30 you can see Clem and Conrad on the left
Tripp kinda reminds me of Kenney
Because he swears a lot right? Yeah he reminds me of him too lol
I like him, hope he doesn't die but TellTale probably will kill him off
Zitrical Bro i know what happened to him
he kinda reminds me of Abraham from the comics
But why would anyone turn Clem in? I mean we started with her in the first game, why would we betray her? She's the OG. Besides, it's not like she was still with the New Frontier.
anime fan omg use your brains.
anime fan because KOMRAD blyat didn't need to die
anime fan Jacksepticeye did
Just because the players know her doesn't mean that the characters do.
This is basically a "Moral choice VS Personal choice"
Clementine at 4:30
It's a glitch as Gabriel was in that location the scene before. Just wanted to let you guys know ;)
I feel Bad for the killing conrad, I could save him and clem would still forgive me and conrad would live. I feel so Bad.
he does apologize and saves your life if your not quick enough and can make it all episodes if you make the decisions
Really, the relationship with Clementine is not affected if you bring her along?
You should make a video of what were to happen: If you went down there or open fire, for when the people show up to Prescott Gate. Would it change much?
Tried it, same outcome. Clem shoots instead.
SwingPoynt So no matter what happens, Francene dies?
4:30 lol clem in thie left corner
Yeah and I was surprised that he didn't notice her lmao
let me explain telltalle games formula
At 4:29 clemintine is in the background after she left
MCHUGH 6119 that was so creepy lmao
Yea
I think she's following them even tho she said she was leaving
MCHUGH 6119 i think its easter egg or mistake
MCHUGH 6119 I can say it's a mistake because she was going leave but Tripp dialogue was questioning about Clem before Conrad
at 4:29 you can see clementine in the window on the left
I didn't like these choices much, I feel bad for shooting Conrad but I feel bad for betraying Clementine and getting hated by her and Gabe too, I went with shooting Conrad, so he could be with Francine
Reasons I shot Conrad
Killing Conrad seemed like the better choice to me here for several reasons, He already has it out for Javi the man straight blames us for Francine's death and i'm too distrustful of him just letting bygones be bygones. He had a gun to Gabes head which shows how willing his is to get what he wants if the situation demands it, cant keep him around to pull stunts like that. He saved me like once, Clem saved me several times so far. But by far one of my most important reasons... Trust. Its easier to lose trust then build it, it took most of these episodes to build trust and a "Friendship" with Clementine, I have no real friendship with Conrad nor did I trust him. I'd rather save Clem who's got my back regardless over Conrad who will most likely save his own ass
devontea broadway which is all your doing. This all happened because of you so you can't blame him for being a shithead,especially after losing his lover...in a fucked up way.
+Alpha Shall rise it is my fault truthful, but still
@@BenDaGoat not everyone are the same, people have different personal and mental health, the developers build the charater in this game do the same like real life, can you use your brain?
I shot Conrad REAL quick LOL
It's funny how you can't choose to tell Trip the truth
micah white
The "he lost it" option let Javi explain what happened in the tunnel.
I can't believe that no one actually pointed out that in the first decision (Shoot Conrad) clementine shows up at 4:31 in the background.
Lots of people have haha. She be creepin
4:31 Clementine is there, right in the back. Before, Gabe was there, so it might be a glitch but she's there
this is what I am think, how is he gonna explain how his daughter got shot in the head by brother people
Vetro45 85 the girl that died was Javier's niece
Gaming Lion yea but it was his brothers daughter which is a super story twister can't wait til he finds out who killed her
A_NEW_GAMER _BOYY same he is probably gonna kill whoever killed his daughter
she's david's daughter. and kate is his wife.
Vetro45 85 david probaly wont believe it nearly exactly the same fight in episode 1 except for david will say how did u let her die kate wakes up and says its true david realizes maybe kisses kate then hugs gabe gets them inside then kills someone in like an office then becomes like carver😦 but probaly not
I feel that if people played season 1 and 2, there's no way in hell you could give up clementine
yo clem is there at 4:31 after she ran off
Melani Rice right next to kates head
I don't understand you people xD you either don't look at the "main attraction" and just look around or you have eagle eyes which spot every movement
13:44 she is there too, i assume it was just an error by Telltale
The part when he decided to shot Conrad when u see Kate pause at 4:31 and look to the left window when ur hugging Kate ull see Clem
i cant get enough of your voice. its sounds so pleasant
I love how Clementine flips him off. She's such a bad ass.
4:30 Clem in the background
Doesn't anyone know who Jesus is?
Comic book character and in TV show
our savior who died for our sins
Oisín Lynch I think everyone dose haha
Natho 666 He's from the TV Show of The Walking Dead and I guess from the comics as well
Natho 666 Jesus is god who doesn't know that
Love how the ending of Episode 2 shows David watching in front of him as if Telltale didnt even bother to make his model look down for the "Hands behind your head" choice.
Why'd he only freak out the second time he saw that kid's dad???
The choice where you shoot Conrad is better
5:04-5:07. He said pray for the best and it cuts to a shot of Jesus. That made me laugh
Why do so many people just want to kill?
TheRoboticPlant he pointed a gun at a kid
Sologamer 244 he was bluffing
TheRoboticPlant cause 😈
It's not that we want to kill, it's that we love Clem. I get that we're playing as Javi and that we shouldn't let our feelings for Clem be the basis of our decision making but Conrad literally put a gun up to Gabe's face and threatened his life right after both Javi and Gabe had just lost Mariana because he didn't want to be reasonable or understanding. His judgment was clouded by the death of his partner but does that excuse his behavior? Put yourself in Javi's shoes. If someone put a gun up to my brother's face and threatened his life over a misconception, especially in a time where family means everything, I wouldn't think twice about blowing his head off. He betrayed our trust way before we betrayed Clem's (if you chose to betray her).
TheRoboticPlant If you choose to do nothing he kills Gabe and Javier.
annoyingly it seems like he didn't know that Tripp dose not know if he shoots Conrad
clementine at the left side at 4:30 tho. must've forgotten to change the frame from the different choice, she wasn't supposed to be there lmao
Even though I knew some of my choices didn't sit well with my morals I found myself doing whatever clementine asked me to do. When they held Conrads girlfriend hostage I was gonna give myself up til Clem was like "we better start shooting." Then I'm just like "K". I think telltale did this on purpose. They know players are attached to Clem and that will influence their decisions even when siding when clementine is clearly the wrong choice.
Damn, now I feel kinda bad for shooting Conrad...but there is no way in Hell that I'm giving up my baby. The "Lee" in me wouldn't let me.
WTF I saw Clem At 4:29 :0
Cool I didn't notice that before
I saw that to! I thought it must of been my eyes when I saw someone play it.
4:30*
"Not sooner then enough." and the middle finger wow Clementine has change soo much. a few years ago when s1 come out i remember when Clem would get frustrated with say "Swear!" when Lee says a rude word in the barn, now she like this harden and a badass. You go girl! ^_^ what an amazing character thanks to TTG for creating Clementine.
I love how when Kate says she needs something to take the edge off, I was 4:20 into the video