Yes! A little giggle from Josh on the video. Enjoyment is what it is all about! Almost got a candle overflow in this video. But I managed to candle, ehm handle that. Now going to chop some myself with confidence.
My father would have absolutely loved Herons Bonsai, not for the trees, but for the planes flying over. He was an engineer for Delta for about 40 years. Absolutely loved his job, and he would have known what plane was going over head, and where it was going. I miss him everyday.
The more videos meandering through your extraordinary garden the better, you really have your own garden of Eden going on. Peter is an inspiration and a sage.
_THANK YOU_ ... 🙏 😔 🙏 Dr. Chan, this is one of your greater videos. You have taken a subject that many complicate to a vast degree and made it simple and direct to the point. You.are having a tremendous growth season, your preparation from the last years is spot on. Over a foot of growth in less than a month, that is tremendous. The northern hemisphere is getting a lot rain which is helping the growth, but fertilizer and root control is the key. The gentleman's ideas about "cone setting" is new to me too, actually I have observed just the opposite in pines. Now if we were talking about "field trees", I know where the idea came from, but neither is that idea particularly true of pines. 🙏 🖖 🙏 😔 🙏
Excellent. Years ago I began pruning the new growth American Eastern white pines on my property which had very tall pines with needles only up very high where there is sun. I decided to manage new trees to share the available sunlight so as to maintain dense greenery up to about 20 feet tall. The greenery creates a more picturesque woodland in summer and winter when the deciduous are bare. It is a lot of work but the results are very satisfying.
Thank you for this extensive video. I continue to learn so much from you. You are so generous with your time and knowledge and I appreciate it so very much.
Thank you Peter for the video I asked for. Perfect timing too. I feel much better about the situation, and was really over thinking it a bit. I have 2 Black pines and 1- 5 needle pine. Mine are so young though, ( only about 1 foot tall ) that watching you with your trees that have their silhouette shaped still leaves me with some decisions to make. Since mine are so young, I need to decide if I should let some candles go to let the pines grow out more, or to cut them back to try to get more bud back. Cant thank you enough for paying attention to your followers and giving us guidance on this path. Cheers !!!
I am looking forward to your June pruning of the large pines you show @ 25:00. I like to practice my technique on the planted trees I have in my garden and I am curious to see what you end up doing. P.s. Fork handle - I got it, great dad joke!
This was a great video. As peter says EVERY pine has diff techniques that need to be applied to all different pines. I have done alot of reading and will just throw a few extra tips out there. 1. Know ur pine , single flush or double flush pine a double flush like jbp u can induce a second flush of growth by decandling if the tree is healthy enough single flush like a mugo if u cut the candles well ur done for the year prob not the best idea depending on ur branch structure 2. On younger trees let the candles grow pines are apically dominant and to redistribute energy throught the tree u have to candle pinch the stronger candles try and keep them mostly even 3. Leave all the needles on ur branches greater odds of backbudding if the needles are left behind the branch try to save lateral needles and eliminate those growing up and down 4. Always bud select to 2 candles and use the laterals . Hope this helps anyone out there
@@peterchan3100 thank u peter. Ive been reading soo much because i found them to be a lil more to understand and there are many techniques to these trees i figured i had to share some of what i have read. Thanks peter keep the wonderfull videos coming
Peter, great stuff. Thank you. Since I only have young trees I’m hoping you can you do a video showing the best way to develop young (2-3 yr old) JBP’s. Like cutting the few long shoots that grow in the spring to fork the branches vs. leaving them to grow long and then hoping to get bud back so you can shorten them and fork them at that time and using sacrificial branches, etc.
Hi Peter, simply love your videos and the inspiration you supply. Without the distraction’s of the birds singing and the magnificent sunsets I don’t think the days would be complete while working on our trees. Great information. I have tried my first attempt to air layering my Japanese Maples thanks to your videos last year and with great success all 7 new trees are doing great…Thank You. One question I have for you …in this video around 25:16 your cutting below the candle and down the branch…could you do an air layer there as long as there’s green below that? Thanks Peter
Peter, I have a collected Scots Pine 3ft tall, 3" trunk with 3 layers of whorl branching how would I/you select the branches to keep to get a layered look like your older trees (a new video coming up)? Also why do you not put your floor water basins on your web site for sale, I would like one but cannot find any or prices? Greatly appreciate you advice re: the tree.
Lovely Video. Particularly enjoyed your 'Bluntness' regarding Candle Lopping. Some sources almost make it sound like some sort of spiritual phenomena. Ha. The Blackbird singing is the star. STP
It is . If u decandle this summer it doesnt matter right now but next flush of growth bud select down to 2 lateral buds. thats only for jbp bec it is a 2 flush pine
From all the how to cut a tree and be careful or you'll kill it, Peters confidant words of "it's not rocket science" have given me at least a trust that cutting trees isn't that hard and you believe the tree can live though it. I mean it gets you to do, instead of just having fear of messing up.
im curious what your imput is on this issue as i cannot seems to find a consensus. On Scotts pine.. how does one induce back budding on old wood? Some say cut candles.. some say let them grow out huge and back budding will take place... that second method seem suspect to me. the candles on this scots pine are 6 inches or so.. mainly because i fertilize the heck out of it. But im curious how you do it.
This is what I do and it works for me, feed heavily for the growing year and let the candles grow, they will be far too long for the tree but they will be producing energy, let the needles fully grow and accumulate energy, then when the needles have hardened off and the sheath has dropped off prune the growth back to the tree silhouette, then feed again. The auxin in the branch tip now has nowhere to go other than futher back into the tree and it will produce buds on older wood. Now, this is the important bit, in the following spring you need to pinch the growth on the end candles to stop them growing and taking the energy and this will then force the smaller inner buds to grow otherwise you just end up with tiny inner weak buds and you want to transition the energy from the end tip to the inner bud.
I agree, it's totally ridiculous to say that producing cones is a sign the tree is dying. 🤦♂ It's the complete opposite, if the tree is dying it won't be able to produce cones bc the tree doesn't have the energy or nutrients to do so. I mean that's horticulture 101 type information right there, how do you get that wrong. 😂 Great video as always thank you uploading! 👍👍
A tree that is strong enough to produce fruit with seeds (in this case pine cones) is certainly not about to die. Cones mean the tree is producing seeds and getting ready to disperse them. It happens every 4 to 10 years in nature. A warm summer is beneficial for next year's seed production. As we know conifers in nature live well past 4-10 years. The cycle will look like this: In the first year of the pine cone cycle the beginnings of what will be cones start to form. The second year pollination of the pine blossoms will take place. In the spring of the third year of the cone cycle the cones will expand, open and disperse their seeds. That same fall the dry pine cones will fall off the tree. Now the tree will rest until another cycle starts. It will gather resources needed to sprout new cones and disperse seeds again. Pine cones forming means you have a tree that have been growing under good conditions. Not a dying tree. (Unless you lost it because the tree suffered wrong treatment during the three year process that naturally drains it of resources, of course, and the tree became frail, sick and died from that...) A tree that has dispersed its seeds and shed the dry cones will benefit from extra attention to become replenished. This is when repotting can happen.
That is Ryan Neal. That dude make everything complicated and drama about something so simple. He loves to show how clever he is I keep telling everyone in the bonsai world lol
I didn't know what they were. So those are candles. Question for the clever people here. Japanese Black Pine Seeds. Stratify or just soak and sow? So many different contradictory information on-line.
Since it is now summer, it is late for sowing seeds (where I live, you may have a long growing season), therefore stratify for next year! I was 95% sure you had to stratify anyway.
I just looked it up refrigerate 3-7 weeks to improve germination. So put them in your fridge in February or March, Or put them in now and take them out in the spring! If you have a good memory!
@@edition-deluxe thank you there's even videos here on UA-cam of people sowing straight to soil. Very confusing. Stratification makes sense given where it lives. I'll put them in fridge until next spring
@@luigiluigi2098 It's a lower percentage move, but yeah that's how seeds become trees naturally! Propagation techniques are about highest percentage success.
Hello and good morning Sunday Morning Bonsai Breakfast Clubbers, Peter and all at Herons. 🙏🏝️☕️🥣 I believe many people are unsure what to do with pine candles because they look so alien and totally unlike our conventional understanding of what new shoots look like, based on understanding and familiarity with deciduous trees. I also think that removing cones or flowers from pines is a shame. They use minimal energy and should be appreciated for their aesthetic beauty and the character they add to the tree.
Nearly an hour of Peter. What a blessing!
Post church , Sunday Tea a biscuit, and reprive from chores enjoying this post. Thank you.
Yes! A little giggle from Josh on the video. Enjoyment is what it is all about!
Almost got a candle overflow in this video. But I managed to candle, ehm handle that.
Now going to chop some myself with confidence.
Excellent video on candle pruning Peter! So easy to understand! You are totally right... No need for it to be complicated!!
My father would have absolutely loved Herons Bonsai, not for the trees, but for the planes flying over. He was an engineer for Delta for about 40 years. Absolutely loved his job, and he would have known what plane was going over head, and where it was going. I miss him everyday.
Dont worry, your Dad is up in the big blue sky - Bless him. and you stay blessed.
@@peterchan3100 Just read your reply, and you might be right, a plane is flying over as I write this. You made me cry, but happy tears.
The more videos meandering through your extraordinary garden the better, you really have your own garden of Eden going on. Peter is an inspiration and a sage.
I love all of your beautiful trees...Very informative, thankyou...I find your videos very relaxing ❤
I liked the way you were holding your camera and clipping at the same time; it gave us a close up of your work. Thank you🙏🏻
Japanese Maple one of my wish list 💚
Home at 2am awake again at 7 and what a way to spend my Sunday morning. Thank you Peter.
_THANK YOU_ ... 🙏 😔 🙏
Dr. Chan, this is one of your greater videos. You have taken a subject that many complicate to a vast degree and made it simple and direct to the point. You.are having a tremendous growth season, your preparation from the last years is spot on. Over a foot of growth in less than a month, that is tremendous. The northern hemisphere is getting a lot rain which is helping the growth, but fertilizer and root control is the key.
The gentleman's ideas about "cone setting" is new to me too, actually I have observed just the opposite in pines. Now if we were talking about "field trees", I know where the idea came from, but neither is that idea particularly true of pines.
🙏 🖖 🙏 😔 🙏
Absolutely educational video for all. Thanks Peter 👩🏻🌾🪴
Don't worry about the 'camera work'. I appreciate you making this video as it is time for me to trim mine.
Thank you!
What a spectacular garden you have. Great post
Excellent. Years ago I began pruning the new growth American Eastern white pines on my property which had very tall pines with needles only up very high where there is sun. I decided to manage new trees to share the available sunlight so as to maintain dense greenery up to about 20 feet tall. The greenery creates a more picturesque woodland in summer and winter when the deciduous are bare. It is a lot of work but the results are very satisfying.
Thank you for this extensive video. I continue to learn so much from you. You are so generous with your time and knowledge and I appreciate it so very much.
I love your no-nonsense approach 😎
Thank you Peter for the video I asked for. Perfect timing too. I feel much better about the situation, and was really over thinking it a bit.
I have 2 Black pines and 1- 5 needle pine. Mine are so young though, ( only about 1 foot tall ) that watching you with your trees that have their silhouette shaped still leaves me with some decisions to make. Since mine are so young, I need to decide if I should let some candles go to let the pines grow out more, or to cut them back to try to get more bud back.
Cant thank you enough for paying attention to your followers and giving us guidance on this path. Cheers !!!
All of your videos are very much informative and have learned so much in my new hobby.
Very good video Peter nice to put the pinching right thanks
I`ve learned so much from this video Peter. Thanks you so much for sharing your knowledge.
Thx for sharing Peter 👍
Great video Mr Chan, I absolutely love seeing you walk around trimming trees 🌳 keep up the good work 👏🏼
I am looking forward to your June pruning of the large pines you show @ 25:00. I like to practice my technique on the planted trees I have in my garden and I am curious to see what you end up doing.
P.s. Fork handle - I got it, great dad joke!
This was a great video. As peter says EVERY pine has diff techniques that need to be applied to all different pines. I have done alot of reading and will just throw a few extra tips out there. 1. Know ur pine , single flush or double flush pine a double flush like jbp u can induce a second flush of growth by decandling if the tree is healthy enough single flush like a mugo if u cut the candles well ur done for the year prob not the best idea depending on ur branch structure 2. On younger trees let the candles grow pines are apically dominant and to redistribute energy throught the tree u have to candle pinch the stronger candles try and keep them mostly even 3. Leave all the needles on ur branches greater odds of backbudding if the needles are left behind the branch try to save lateral needles and eliminate those growing up and down 4. Always bud select to 2 candles and use the laterals . Hope this helps anyone out there
Good information and tips.
@@peterchan3100 thank u peter. Ive been reading soo much because i found them to be a lil more to understand and there are many techniques to these trees i figured i had to share some of what i have read. Thanks peter keep the wonderfull videos coming
Super interesting, the two Ronnie's 😂 reminds my of my childhood.
I was hoping he would say four candles at some point 😁 what a great sketch that was. Wonder if they're still alive.
@@luigiluigi2098No, they both passed away.....the Christmas edition of the two Ronnie's 👌🇬🇧
@@nickjohnson710 oh that's sad. They don't have equals today in my opinion.
@@luigiluigi2098 I concur, same with Laura and Hardy, morecambe and wise
What an amazing collection of bonzi
Great video Peter.. thank you for sharing 🙏👍
Peter cracks me up. He sees a niwaki tree, walks up to it quietly to hear the birds, and then WHACK! Candles gone.
🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹 thanks Peter, i've learned so much again
Good music and editing
Was just waiting for you to say 4 candles. Made my evening 😅
Commen sense really which Peter makes it look easy which it is. Thank you Peter.
Peter, great stuff. Thank you. Since I only have young trees I’m hoping you can you do a video showing the best way to develop young (2-3 yr old) JBP’s. Like cutting the few long shoots that grow in the spring to fork the branches vs. leaving them to grow long and then hoping to get bud back so you can shorten them and fork them at that time and using sacrificial branches, etc.
Check out ben b seattle he shows jbp throughout the year and whole progress
Dr Pine will see you now 👍🏼
Hi Peter, simply love your videos and the inspiration you supply. Without the distraction’s of the birds singing and the magnificent sunsets I don’t think the days would be complete while working on our trees. Great information.
I have tried my first attempt to air layering my Japanese Maples thanks to your videos last year and with great success all 7 new trees are doing great…Thank You. One question I have for you …in this video around 25:16 your cutting below the candle and down the branch…could you do an air layer there as long as there’s green below that?
Thanks Peter
Sorry the spot in the video was 26:16 thanks
Pines are very difficult to air layer - dont waste your time.
@@peterchan3100 I’m glad I waited for your answer, thank you.
One last question are Japanese Dogwoods ok to air layer?
@@marshmeadowpond5036 - I have never tried this species - so I dont know if it will work. But you can give it a go and let me know how you get on.
@@peterchan3100 I will definitely let you know my results Mr. Chan Thank you
Very informative
Brilliant video
Peter, I have a collected Scots Pine 3ft tall, 3" trunk with 3 layers of whorl branching how would I/you select the branches to keep to get a layered look like your older trees (a new video coming up)? Also why do you not put your floor water basins on your web site for sale, I would like one but cannot find any or prices? Greatly appreciate you advice re: the tree.
Good morning 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Lovely Video. Particularly enjoyed your 'Bluntness' regarding Candle Lopping. Some sources almost make it sound like some sort of spiritual phenomena. Ha.
The Blackbird singing is the star. STP
Thanks you ❤
Do the redwoods(costal and sequoia) make candles like such?
I’m new to pines. I’ve been preached to about selecting buds on jbp so there’s no swelling at the junction. I do think this is an important issue?
It is . If u decandle this summer it doesnt matter right now but next flush of growth bud select down to 2 lateral buds. thats only for jbp bec it is a 2 flush pine
From all the how to cut a tree and be careful or you'll kill it, Peters confidant words of "it's not rocket science" have given me at least a trust that cutting trees isn't that hard and you believe the tree can live though it. I mean it gets you to do, instead of just having fear of messing up.
Morning breakfast clubbers
Please make a video all about cedar and hoe to make it bud back
im curious what your imput is on this issue as i cannot seems to find a consensus. On Scotts pine.. how does one induce back budding on old wood? Some say cut candles.. some say let them grow out huge and back budding will take place... that second method seem suspect to me. the candles on this scots pine are 6 inches or so.. mainly because i fertilize the heck out of it.
But im curious how you do it.
This is what I do and it works for me, feed heavily for the growing year and let the candles grow, they will be far too long for the tree but they will be producing energy, let the needles fully grow and accumulate energy, then when the needles have hardened off and the sheath has dropped off prune the growth back to the tree silhouette, then feed again. The auxin in the branch tip now has nowhere to go other than futher back into the tree and it will produce buds on older wood. Now, this is the important bit, in the following spring you need to pinch the growth on the end candles to stop them growing and taking the energy and this will then force the smaller inner buds to grow otherwise you just end up with tiny inner weak buds and you want to transition the energy from the end tip to the inner bud.
Thank you Dan Banham. That was really well explained and most helpful.
I never see anyone talking about western white pine. I'm hoping the pruning will be similar.
🌳👍
I agree, it's totally ridiculous to say that producing cones is a sign the tree is dying. 🤦♂
It's the complete opposite, if the tree is dying it won't be able to produce cones bc the tree doesn't have the energy or nutrients to do so. I mean that's horticulture 101 type information right there, how do you get that wrong. 😂
Great video as always thank you uploading! 👍👍
A tree that is strong enough to produce fruit with seeds (in this case pine cones) is certainly not about to die. Cones mean the tree is producing seeds and getting ready to disperse them. It happens every 4 to 10 years in nature. A warm summer is beneficial for next year's seed production. As we know conifers in nature live well past 4-10 years.
The cycle will look like this: In the first year of the pine cone cycle the beginnings of what will be cones start to form. The second year pollination of the pine blossoms will take place. In the spring of the third year of the cone cycle the cones will expand, open and disperse their seeds. That same fall the dry pine cones will fall off the tree. Now the tree will rest until another cycle starts. It will gather resources needed to sprout new cones and disperse seeds again.
Pine cones forming means you have a tree that have been growing under good conditions. Not a dying tree. (Unless you lost it because the tree suffered wrong treatment during the three year process that naturally drains it of resources, of course, and the tree became frail, sick and died from that...)
A tree that has dispersed its seeds and shed the dry cones will benefit from extra attention to become replenished. This is when repotting can happen.
That is Ryan Neal. That dude make everything complicated and drama about something so simple. He loves to show how clever he is I keep telling everyone in the bonsai world lol
Everyone has something useful to impart, so keep an open mind. Ryan is a top guy.
@@peterchan3100 it’s ok to be political correct lol
My Pines have started to get small candles so I remove them using my fingers. Leaves behind that amazing Pine smell.
You can but using scissors is more precise.
You know y your tree has small candles it is weak mate you want strong growth that's a healthy tree in bonsai so let them grow and cut them off later
👍👌👌🙂
All those delicious asparagus he keeps calling candles for some reason?
I didn't know what they were. So those are candles.
Question for the clever people here. Japanese Black Pine Seeds. Stratify or just soak and sow? So many different contradictory information on-line.
Since it is now summer, it is late for sowing seeds (where I live, you may have a long growing season), therefore stratify for next year! I was 95% sure you had to stratify anyway.
I just looked it up refrigerate 3-7 weeks to improve germination. So put them in your fridge in February or March, Or put them in now and take them out in the spring! If you have a good memory!
@@edition-deluxe thank you there's even videos here on UA-cam of people sowing straight to soil. Very confusing. Stratification makes sense given where it lives. I'll put them in fridge until next spring
@@luigiluigi2098 It's a lower percentage move, but yeah that's how seeds become trees naturally! Propagation techniques are about highest percentage success.
That pinecone story, about them dying?! Lol, surely that's a sign the trees healthy? This guy must have been drunk or high when he said it 🥴
Totally ruined the bonsai...
No need for the negativity , I assure you he has a lot of experience with this.
Master Peter imy
Hello and good morning Sunday Morning Bonsai Breakfast Clubbers, Peter and all at Herons. 🙏🏝️☕️🥣
I believe many people are unsure what to do with pine candles because they look so alien and totally unlike our conventional understanding of what new shoots look like, based on understanding and familiarity with deciduous trees.
I also think that removing cones or flowers from pines is a shame. They use minimal energy and should be appreciated for their aesthetic beauty and the character they add to the tree.
It's actually Saturday night where I live! haha