Is the Yamaha MODX8+ Still Relevant Today?

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2024

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  • @freespirit37
    @freespirit37 Рік тому +44

    To all MODX owners: In the Utility window, don't forget to set velocity to "soft" and boost decibel at audio and USB audio output. All of this if you want all the sauce!

    • @19swordfish
      @19swordfish 10 місяців тому

      😊😊😊😊😊

    • @AwesomeMan2696
      @AwesomeMan2696 9 місяців тому +1

      That shouldn’t be something everyone does it’s based on your playing style as far as velocity

    • @hanswurst2490
      @hanswurst2490 4 місяці тому

      You forgot to mention, that you'll have to struggle with overdrive then. And by the way... yes... "velocity" is unneeded crap for pseudo-experts, pretending to play concerts in Carnegie Hall. Nearly no common, popular song has it. 99,999% velocity-free.

  • @gesslr
    @gesslr Рік тому +6

    If they brought out a table top version of this, I’d buy it in a heartbeat. No question.

  • @SynthCatSpot
    @SynthCatSpot Рік тому +4

    I love these videos! One of my favorite’s channels to tune into. Especially going over gear that is running parallel or overlooked by most synthesizer channels. Bringing attention to used gear, and lesser-known gear is a huge bonus. It be fun to see Real time parameter editing on older synths as well as affects units or effects pedals integrated into the jams. A lot of the older midi mixers and midi controllers can edit parameters without templates, with minimal knowled of implementation charts. iPad apps as editors are great as well.
    Thank you for all you contribute to the community. Many blessings in the new year:)

  • @basspartout
    @basspartout Рік тому +16

    I absolutely love my MODX, it's got a very pleasant sound I never get tired of and it's got a great high end and brilliance to it. Also the 8 Operator FM-X engine is incredibly powerful, for example just with Algorithm 1 you can create endless big and warm sounding pads due to the different waveforms every operator can have.
    Also the Effects are very good. Put the legendary SPX Ensemble on top of your FM pads and its pure bliss.

    • @hanswurst2490
      @hanswurst2490 4 місяці тому

      From what planet are you? I wonder, if you are only pretending to have one🤔... or hyping it for money from Yamaha? I never had a more buggy machine in my hand. Or likely you are only playing 5% of the machine. Otherwise your comment cannot be explained.

  • @adrianjapp
    @adrianjapp Рік тому +8

    Love my MODX8+. Only had it a month or so, but it is an incredibly powerful (and inspiring) tool. Very comfortable with the UI, and having a fully weighted action is perfect for me, as I prefer the piano feel (and also have an Arturia keyboard that I can MIDI in if I want a synth key feel for anything). Have spent many an hour lost in the sets that it comes with as stock, have loaded the CS80 and Montage extended sets, and used SoundMondo to replicate some amazing 80s synth arrangements.

    • @shiladityagupta1317
      @shiladityagupta1317 9 місяців тому

      Which is better Korg Nautilus AT or Modx8+ ?

    • @adrianjapp
      @adrianjapp 9 місяців тому

      @@shiladityagupta1317 My preference is MODX, but it is entirely a personal preference. You need to try them both.

    • @peternelson4630
      @peternelson4630 5 місяців тому

      Adrian - Did your model come with the Bosendorfer piano library or is that something you can download?

    • @adrianjapp
      @adrianjapp 5 місяців тому

      @@peternelson4630 It's a free download amongst a good few downloads that Yamaha provide. Well worth downloading I'd say.

  • @SuperTabbywabby
    @SuperTabbywabby Рік тому +2

    Same had MODX+8 still have it ‘ fantastic machine once you learn you way round and I’ve just scratched the surface too ‘ people pull this synth apart saying it’s rubbish but I disagree know what you are buying ? And the key bed has had a bad time from reviews’ it’s not the best but I can find it a enjoyable bed to play ‘ ❤

    • @peternelson4630
      @peternelson4630 5 місяців тому

      For the price, I think the keybed is the best that's out there. It's also the same one use for the Montage series. At the moment, I'm immersing myself in my MODX8 because I've just joined a dance cover band so I'm not only trying to learn the book of songs, but to also create the "dancey" pop sounds from folks like Bruno Mars and Lizzo.
      Having studied synthesis and feeling pretty competent, I still find it challenging (and a bit frustrating) to be able the dimension of a Performance (aka "path", "preset", or "sound") to affect the change I want. I also haven't yet mastered assigning controllers to make the live interactions as efficient and musical as possible. Using the Scene feature is really helpful and powerful. However, I've found that a scene does not record the low note and high note of the keyboard control range in a Scene. This means you have to duplicate the part, change the keyboard high and low note of the range, and then have one Scene with one part enabled, and then the other scene has the other part (different keyboard ranges) enabled while the first part is off. Could be worse, but that seems like an oversight to me.

  • @Am71919
    @Am71919 Рік тому +13

    The original motif is the gold standard

    • @etpslick100
      @etpslick100 Рік тому +2

      I agree. Funny; for me personally I preferred the motif xf over the montage sounds; but the MODX+ is a improvement. Sounds great!🤨🎹🎶👍🏾

    • @markoconnell804
      @markoconnell804 Рік тому

      Compared to the genos?

    • @Am71919
      @Am71919 Рік тому +3

      @@markoconnell804 The motif was the inspiration for boards like the genos

  • @xaverk
    @xaverk Рік тому +2

    You‘ve come up with sounds I didn‘t know that MODX has it although I play with it more than 3 years. Custom patches? Very good and elaborate sounds. 👍🏻

  • @falangistavaleroso9689
    @falangistavaleroso9689 Рік тому +2

    I love all Yamaha Fm ones, got tons.

  • @erichkohl9317
    @erichkohl9317 Рік тому +4

    I owned a MODX6 for a little while, and I agree that the sound engines are fantastic. I ended up selling it, though, because I realized what I really wanted was a workstation, so now I'm on Korg again. But yeah, I totally get why the MODX has its fans.

    • @madness8556
      @madness8556 Рік тому

      Which Korg workstation did you get?

    • @erichkohl9317
      @erichkohl9317 Рік тому +2

      @@madness8556 The Krome EX.

    • @madness8556
      @madness8556 Рік тому

      @@erichkohl9317 how are you finding it? The sequencer of the Krome EX has some great features such as cuelists, RPPP and the piano roll editor that's not even included in the Kronos and Nautilus sequencers.

    • @erichkohl9317
      @erichkohl9317 Рік тому +1

      @@madness8556 Yeah I’d say it’s probably the best sequencer I’ve ever used in a workstation type instrument. That and the sound engines are top notch. Great board for the price. I just wish it would mix down internally to a WAV file; it’s not an audio interface, so I have to record the output to my Tascam. Not a dealbreaker though.

    • @madness8556
      @madness8556 Рік тому +1

      @@erichkohl9317 the Korg workstation sequencers are fabulous and I was able to easily complete entire musical productions using just the sequencer in my now sold Triton Classic. Cuelists, RPPP and the piano roll are great features along with the touch screen interface. It's a pity that Korg hasn't released any new workstation as a true upgrade to both the Triton and Krome with all the extra interface features like the MODX has. Does the Krome also take forever to boot up like both Kronos and Nautilus?

  • @trebleboost7
    @trebleboost7 Рік тому +3

    Great synopsis! I honestly think this is one of the best instruments on the market. I kind of sidestepped FM over the years and this does it so well and I think the Smartmorph feature is fantastic at finding unique sweet spots. As stated there is s sparkle to the sound that stacks very nicely with other instruments. The UI is vastly more comfortable to me than the Motif. My niggles are that the sequencing is not as full featured as I like and the MIDI implementation as the receiving instrument is not the easiest to work with. I think a desktop version would be killer.

  • @Firstmajortomlikestoticker
    @Firstmajortomlikestoticker 11 місяців тому +1

    a ZACK... This is a Great topic, I am glad you covered this... I have watched this 3 times... Thanks for Covering this. My answer is in Full Agreement with you.... It makes Great Music🏁 Plain and "SIMPLE"

  • @ckatheman
    @ckatheman Рік тому +1

    I bought an MODX+ 6 back in October to replace a Roland FA06. Love it. I have a CP73 as my main board and they pair perfectly. I do hope a pattern sequencer update appears to provide a better visual representation with a piano roll, or at minimum a timeline of the bars. Something. I am one who likes to avoid the DAW until the very end.

    • @ronjosolis4413
      @ronjosolis4413 Рік тому +1

      Is switching tones or settings on the fly very easy to do with the modx? During band play i would need to qukcly move around different presets when switcbing between songs..
      HVent seen any review yet on it.. eyes on modx7!

  • @GuyVignati
    @GuyVignati 4 місяці тому

    Thank you Donnie, much appreciated

  • @ajotech
    @ajotech Рік тому

    Outstanding video and playing. Thank you so much. :-)

  • @BostonDeadHead
    @BostonDeadHead 10 місяців тому +1

    Love my modx+ but im thinking of upgrading to the new montage.

  • @donleino
    @donleino Рік тому +1

    I honestly think i could live without analog subtractive style synthesis , but if i had to choose one id go with fm

  • @vertigo0105
    @vertigo0105 Рік тому +2

    Excellent video! Btw, they pronounce it "Mow Dee Ex" (or "Mow DX") as in DX-7 ;)

  • @peternelson4630
    @peternelson4630 5 місяців тому

    I thought the + also has the Bosendorfer piano - which would be HUGE - and has doubled the polyphony of the FM sounds? And the pitch bend and mod wheel was upgraded from hard plastic to a more tactile rubber material? The other big plus of the MODX series is the lighter weight. Montage isn't only double the price (or thereabouts), but it's also 32 pounds to 63 pounds! Definitely sturdier and more rugged, but if you're actively gigging and loading in and loading out, it is a factor to consider. I'm torn between adding a MODX8+ to go along with my MODX8 to add redundancy and the ability to restore a backup of one to the other with no issues, at a lower cost, and still at a manageable weight. To really upgrading to the MONTAGE 8X with a lot more usability controls, more sounds, after touch "wiggle" on the keyboard, but at more than $2,000 more in cost and 30+ pounds more in weight! Oy veh.

  • @pinkdispatcher
    @pinkdispatcher Рік тому +1

    What would make me choose the SY-77 over any MODX any time is that the SY-77 has aftertouch, and the MODX doesn't. It is one of the fundamental parts of my playing style that I can add vibrato without having to remove my hands from the keys, and still have the expression pedal left for changing timbre or so. It's a real shame that there seems to be no budget (or even mid-price) Yamaha keyboard anymore that has pressure sensitivity, you have to fork out for a Montage to get that.

    • @madness8556
      @madness8556 Рік тому +1

      The SY77 is also built like a tank and its keyboard action with aftertouch leaves the 30 year younger MODX for dead.

  • @filipzawadzki9424
    @filipzawadzki9424 11 місяців тому +1

    Why you didnt mentioned that this thing has FM morph feature where you can create new sounds without knowing FM synthesis... this is HUGE

    • @PCCity-fl6kv
      @PCCity-fl6kv 4 місяці тому

      It’s crazy that no one ever mentions that. That’s one of the best features.

  • @NightOrchids
    @NightOrchids Рік тому +1

    Think you titled the video wrong.. dont you mean.. is MODX still relevant today.. the MODX+ only came out in January..
    I love my ModX8.. but the menu system, layers of programming and linear Sequencer are quite complicated and confusing .. well linear sequencer since update v.2.5

    • @chintimin
      @chintimin Рік тому

      No, the question is whether it's relevant today, or if the whole product was obsolete when it was made.

  • @artie218
    @artie218 Рік тому

    I think this was useful as time goes on, with all the attention on the + there really hasn't been any update now on the montage or modx in quite awhile and they also seemed to pivot to the YC in updates which is their nord wannabe. New sounds only seem to get added through soundmondo, the opposite of a user friendly app, and I think more useful would have been ways to tweak sounds and creating some of these patches with settings.. not too much has been shared on that front in quite awhile.. There is a rumor now for months that the modx+ was created so that the next update for the montage will only work with the modx+ and might add a sound engine and we see that the Roland Fantom has just had such an update!

  • @delscoville
    @delscoville Рік тому

    The way I see it, the Montage is a continuation of the Motif. Just looking at the basic definition of the words, a motif is a pattern, a montage is a grouping of patterns. The Montage has the AWM2 engine and all the sound of the XF, with more memory allowing for bigger projects, and the new FM-X engine to go along with it. I still have my first gen Motif 6, and have a new MODX6+. love both. But programming FM patches on the Motif with the DX Plugin just isn't intuitive, it's better that the original DX7, but not by much. On the Montage/MODX even if FM synthesis is still a mystery to the operator, it's so much more easy to just explore the sound. With Smart Morph, just drag a finger around altering several FM settings at once, while playing a tune with the other hand. When you find something you like, save it. What I think makes the Montage/MODX so cool it's it's ability to fade between the two synth engines, as well as any mix of them up to eght, and it's not just tied into the Super Knob, but you can do it using anvelopes and LFOs too. THere's a bit of a learning curve to get down into all the nitty gritty, but that's what a great synthesizer is all about. The DX7 was a great synth, but there's a reason you mostly hear it's preset sounds in popular music of it's era. MODX is more powerful, but easier to use.

  • @JacobAndJamal
    @JacobAndJamal Рік тому +1

    Does the Modx have a sequencer (like the Motif) or more a traditional synth ? I loved workstations like the motif or Triton, because they sounded good, and were fast to come up with song, ideas and use for music production. I tried the montage years ago, but was turned off by how complicated it was 😢

  • @KicK2006
    @KicK2006 11 місяців тому

    I love my MODX too, but am I the only one noticing a slight delay on the playback of a recorded track?

  • @Zzzz...7
    @Zzzz...7 Рік тому +4

    4:33 Ah... Korg? Roland? Kurzweil? And I know I'm missing others. Nobody else has done what Yamaha has done or hasn't done it as well as Yamaha historically? Perhaps I'm not understanding what you're stating or trying to say.
    If I've misunderstood, I'll edit my comment accordingly.

    • @chintimin
      @chintimin Рік тому

      He's saying that no other company has the Yamaha FM emphasis and instrument lineage. At the same time, the Opsix REALLY makes the "no other company" comment sus

  • @AlvaroMRocha
    @AlvaroMRocha Рік тому +1

    It's missing aftertouch and that has been a very unwise move at these not so stripped down mid-tier keyboards (mod-x, Fantom-O, Nautilus... ) that otherwise, for all intents and purposes, are as good as their big brothers... I know they react to it, so, why not just make just a module (or a native (win/osx/linux) version) and save us the handicapped bulky controller?

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 Рік тому

      It has aftertouch in the software you just need to connect a keyboard with it on to it.

    • @AlvaroMRocha
      @AlvaroMRocha Рік тому

      @@darrenhirst9900 the sort of defeats the point, it's like saying like it does velocity but having an organ like keyboard with no such feature. Kronos had hardware aftertouch as do the new Nautilus AT. And both have sotware polyphonic aftertouch which their hardware keyboard doesn't, does making you have to buy an extra hydrasynth, the new NI kontrols or an MPE device to use it properly...
      Not a cool excusable argument if it justifies actually removing a feature... Like NI now have done with Maschine support...

    • @darrenhirst9900
      @darrenhirst9900 Рік тому

      @@AlvaroMRocha Friend I'm just repeating what Big Mr said from Yamaha.
      I totally agree with what You've said.

  • @BRJHA80
    @BRJHA80 Рік тому

    I just recently bought one (MODX+7) It is also relevant to me. Now if anyone knows how to load a saved performance without a usb flash drive, I would like to know.

  • @paulsarodh5460
    @paulsarodh5460 Рік тому

    Rockin 🦜🎸🎸🎸🎸👍

  • @markoconnell804
    @markoconnell804 Рік тому

    How is it compared to the genos?

  • @axelfoley1768
    @axelfoley1768 Рік тому

    Sounds better than the Roland Fantom

  • @sirmartin88
    @sirmartin88 Рік тому

    why there is no seamless switching and sound is cut when he switch to another performance?

    • @peternelson4630
      @peternelson4630 5 місяців тому

      If you hold the first performance with your keys on the keyboard, and then change your Live Set program or a Performance, the previous sound SHOULD still be sounding as you move to the next one. I just saw a Guitar Center demo with Phillip Cornish where he shows this. ua-cam.com/video/wTzbm_v7WxE/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=200

  • @maximusheronimus23980
    @maximusheronimus23980 3 місяці тому

    i'm buying one as soon as i can for around 1850 euro its a bargain for what it can do

  • @sanassa21
    @sanassa21 Рік тому +2

    guy kinda knows what hes talking about but at the same time no

  • @gadymarcus2362
    @gadymarcus2362 8 місяців тому +1

    Bello 🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂

  • @eman0828
    @eman0828 Рік тому +8

    I think "workstation" keyboards are less relevant today by today's standards because the vast majority of the music industry has shifted away from hardware sequencing and Workstations that has gone the DAW route. Back in the 90s and early 2000s every Producer in Hip Hop and R&B were sequencing everything on the MPC as the gold standard midi sequencer with sound modules and keyboards connected to them. I've moved away from that set-up myself and gone Hybrid as gotten rid of my MOTIF ES keyboard and soon to sell off my MPC5000. I went our and purchased all the racked mount versions of every workstation keyboard ever made from the late 90s and early 2000s asI have the MOTIF ES rack, Fantom-XR, E-MU Proteus Module, Roland Integra-7*( modern day XV-5080), Triton.. I sequence my hard racks in Studio One along with my soft synths. I have best of both worlds with modern soft synths and legacy Rompler sound modules.

    • @crhkrebs
      @crhkrebs Рік тому +1

      Agreed! One thing I don’t care about at all is “Multitimbrality”. I don’t care that the synth can play 8 different parts all on different Midi channels. Like you said that was important in the All Hardware days. I also don’t care about on board sequencers that much either. That is what my DAW is for. Interestingly, there is a trend, at least amongst some UA-camrs, to return to all hardware production. Maybe it’s to do live shows with their rigs. Maybe they are fed up looking at computers. But not for me. To me, your DAW is another creative instrument in your studio.

    • @eman0828
      @eman0828 Рік тому +2

      @@crhkrebs Yeah. Funny thing is I started out sequencing on software way back in the early 2000s on Fruity Loops 3! I'm now starting to show my age. Lol. I stopped using FL Studio on 2008 and shifted to Cakewalk Sonar 6 and Propellerheads Reason 4 ad then onto hardware. It was faster to sequence on hardware though but terrible when I came to saving your tracks and tideus process of tracking out your tracks. No search feature and takes too damn long to name your tracks a proper name on the MOTIF or MPC because they lack a qwerty keyboard. Since going to software sequencing, it's just seems much more easier. Every since the power supply went out on MPC 5000 was the final nail in the coffin as that's ove 10 years od beats I lost and parts are hard to find. It's hard to lose tracks on a computer as you can make back ups. It's going to take me a long time to convert all my track all from my MPC to midi files so that I can load it ino studio one. I use to be a giving musician myself a former Gospel keyboard player back in 2010 as I know the feeling as workstation keyboards and stage pianos seems to be more reliable in aive setting although a lot pros used Keyscape. I was gigging with my MOTIF ES keyboard in the church back in the day. That board was the staple keyboard in African American churches of black Gospel music! It seems mostly gigging musicians buys Workstations but rarely for production these days.

    • @xaverk
      @xaverk Рік тому +3

      I don‘t fully agree. The gigging musicians (not those playing in stadiums and the like) who play in clubs, marriages etc. need a keyboard that has all they need onboard, to carry easily around and not having to rely on computers. In this view the MODX (together with some other keyboards) is a very good choice.

    • @eman0828
      @eman0828 Рік тому

      @@xaverk I've seen a lot of changes in the last 20 years long as I've been evolved in music Production as it's true much of music industry has shifted towards a computer based DAW setup. I can name countless big time Producer's from Timbaland, B. Cox, Pharrell Williams, Scott Storch to Dr. Dre, Rodney Jerkins are all using midi controllers now. You may see Scott Storch with his Korg Kronos every now and then but mostly uses for live shows. That's why workstation keyboard sales are down compared to 15 years ago. They jut aren't that popular in the music Production world anymore now that computing power has gotten better and audio interfaces offering near zero latency. Most of us old cats still have some hardware in our setup but but the sequencing happens on the computer nowadays. The only thing really selling in Music Production is VA synths or physical modeling synths. Other than that most of everyone these days are soft synths. Workstations serves a very niche market today. Not like it use to be back in the 90s and early 2000s when computing power was limited. Technology evolves and you evolve with it.

    • @xaverk
      @xaverk Рік тому

      @@eman0828 Shure, you‘re right. But my home is not the music production world. For my needs the MODX 7 has the best price/value-relation of all the keyboards I ever owned and played with. And it doesn‘t break my back to carry around. And it never had a software crash or any other problems. I do use Cubase at home as well as in former times other DAWs, but I can't afford the hassle at gigs.

  • @tonytramonti5828
    @tonytramonti5828 Рік тому

    I heard Will from inbetweeners has got one of these.

  • @UFO-Ark
    @UFO-Ark 10 місяців тому

    Alesis fusion??

  • @hanswurst2490
    @hanswurst2490 4 місяці тому

    Those workstations are buggy from A to Z. Do everything, nothing rightly. And the funniest are the "customers". I never met one, read one, who uses more then 10% of this machine. And noone of them could tell me, what SENSE those machines are making....if noone uses its (buggy) features.

  • @tonytramonti5828
    @tonytramonti5828 6 місяців тому

    Hi have you still got Charlotte Hinchcliff’s phone number?

  • @quantumeseboy
    @quantumeseboy 10 місяців тому +1

    Horrible sound design at Yamaha for the most part.