OJ da Juiceman: I Don't Own Rights to My Biggest Song 'Make the Trap Say Aye', I F***ed Up (Part 9)
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In this clip, OJ da Juiceman opened up to Shawn Prez about his label woes and how he was in such a bad contractual situation leading to him having no rights or claim to ownership for his biggest record, “Make Tha Trap Say Aye.” OJ also detailed signing the deal which had terrible conditions for him as the artist. He recalled the label taking 50% of his show money and kept the proceeds from his debut album. While the label undoubtedly jerked him, OJ da Juiceman didn’t make it difficult for them to do so by pulling up to sign the contract without a lawyer.
Interview by Shawn Prez
Check out his youtube channel at: / powermovemakers
i give juice credit for not playing victim and being super honest and real about this whole situation
big time. takes a man to admit his mistakes. and he took it on the chin. lot of these dudes are usually bitter or lying.
Yes so others can be educated
He got screwed but at least he's not bitter about it. Lol.
On god. He took full accountability
Facts!!! 💯
The streets don’t teach financial literacy.
Exactly what is was real trapper started rapping niggas told him 10k he said he'll yeah knowing he gone flip that in the trap and still go dumb with the music but the blueprint wasn't right cause he was mix friendship and business getting shitted 💯
School don’t either
@@1RatchetAzzNigga that’s why it’s best to teach yourself & not cheat yourself a lot artist fuck up just signing they life away then being mad at the label u get what u deserve not negotiate 💯
@@MrMotion30 real shit
Credit plug you got to give him a class or two 😂 waiting on the next video boss putting md on the map 💯
Juice need to go rerecord the album and ReRelease it with full ownership
That’s a good play Family !
That's the thing, that second contract he sign. I guarantee 10000 percent in it, it says he can not re record his music and put it out.. I guarantee that's in it. Them white folks are no fools..
@@garylewis3611 not white folks. Deb Atney waka flockas momma
@@kingfame_ all that shit was branched from Asylum records & David Geffen is not black. That's makes him the executive of "the other side of the trap" album. Just like everything under Interscope Jimmy Iovine get his cut & final say. Deb Antney was just a manager
This is one of the saddest music stories I ever heard, in terms of being taken advantage of. The music game is really cold 🥶
😂😂😂😂😂
@roderick Smith sadly their are same and far worse stories especially generations ago. Sad
He was mostly the blame for it he could have maybe not jerked so bad if he read his contract and had a lawyer he probably would have own his stuff got all his backends and front ends
Not even close have u heard of TLC
Its sad b/c its our own people. He mentioned waka's mom mizay in the beginning. And this isn't the first time we have heard this from mizay.
I feel bad for Juice. His loyalty was exploited The music industry is a cold game.
Yep smh
No its not. Its a literary game. READ the contract & COMPREHEND the terms. Understand that record labels, managers, bookers etc are BUSINESS PARTNERS ONLY INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY! Not to hold your hand, sing kumbaya and be your friend! They don't "take" anything. They're owed their side of the deal that you agreed to... Don't want to part ways with a % then don't sign tbe God damn deal
@@tiffanysmith1465 Your absolutely right. The reason why I said what I said is because that was allegedly his friend and because Juice looked at him as a friend he didn't do his due diligence. But that's the game.
Not really.
its not a cold game its how the world is.
Deb seen that OJ was a street dude who was green to the music industry and took advantage simple as that.
Worst part is she wasn’t just a lady she was literally around him all the time before that because of how close him and Gucci was
He took advantage of himself how many time does one have to be robbed before realizing something not right and shutting shit down before it happend again
On her side… I don’t see nothing wrong with it. But when you playing somebody that you know is unaware.. that’s shady business to me
@@MiNoGanG he was like family so it was that extra trust. She dead wrong
Fxck Deb for screwing OJ over
That's bullsh*t backstabbing
I got a feeling when he says he looked up to like a mother figure he is talking about Deb Waka mama
Yeap that’s who a lot of artist say the same thing about her which sucks
At one point that was Niki Minaj manager in the early days
Duh nigga
Most likely
No shit Sherlock 😒
With her MAN LOOKIN AHHH!!!!!!
When you don’t own yo own music y’all don’t realize how heartbreaking that is as an artist
Now I'm gonna start calling him OJ Da Dumb Azz 😂😅🤣🤤
@@lover2ed134 most artist dont own their music dumbazzz
@@stevenjp911 u gotta let the clowns entertain themselves
He fucked up by taking the 10k advance
Boosie said he don't own his biggest hits
I think they finessed OJ so hard because he was already seeing money most artist don’t have from Trapping
Spot on!!!!
Exactly
Nah Deb finesse him cause she was a snake
Gucci should of warned him tho na fr
Facts they was pocket watchin smh
oj most definitely deserved much much more however he will always be a legend!!!!!!!
You only get what you work for. Like Micheal Jackson worked hard all his life for it and the results biggest entertainer to ever have lived
yall be calling anybody a legend nowadays lmao
The way he looked at the camera when he said I look at her like a mama figure he still hurt over that Respect to Juice he definitely a legend in the game
She probably was getting a bigger check than he was off his own music😕😩
@@lovyng yep but Gucci always said that juice had money he came in the game with money but he definitely still hurt over the situation
waka moms bogus asf ....i dont she how she sleep at night
He talking about deb flocka mama
@@Mr39thWays When you don't care about people's feelings or situations just what they can do for you it's very easy to sleep.
This is a crazy situation they can still give him his rights back and they should it’s only right .. shout out to Juice for giving us some game
I think after a certain amount of years the rights do become available to the artist, it's just sucks those right might nit be available until 20+years 😔.
@@rellyrell043 yepp he probably got like 5 or 8 more years left to claim rights i hope he still be alive
Right after 20 something odd years
@@rellyrell043 damn
@@33GLOCK ppl normally die round the time they about to get rights or some time after they get em. Sad
I'm still jamming to him years later! Keep your head up an sign to a better label! We need that fire!💪💪💪
How bout don't sign to a label and just put shit out yourself and keep all the profits, and then you can never get played again. Ever thought of that?
It’s hard for lightning to strike twice in the same place. That’s a wrap
Dam deb is cold blooded 😩
Damn!😳 Juice signed a 720° deal🤦🏾♂️
😂😂😂
It don't matter oj a trapper he dealing with bricks that's easy money for him
Lmfaooooooo noooo
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😩😂😂 y'all funny asf
50% off every show!? Damn, they were eating good off OJ like he was a junkie.
He was eating good too, I would take that contact right now 🤷🏻♂️ just for a Album or two tho
@@kkaybaltimore I here ya but considering what he could have gotten with proper legal counsel......he got a kidz meal with no toy.
@@kkaybaltimore See that is the hard part. OJ didn't know what he could achieve musically. He just saw quick legal money.
@@kkaybaltimore he wasn’t compared to his street money tho. He already had money.
No. If he was a junkie they would be taking 90%.
Making music always the easy part. It’s the music business that kills a lot of legacies, careers and motivations for artist.
no stupid ppl do that
@@rollingpapersmooth5120 you think everyone in the music industry is stupid? Interesting
@@Ro1Up lets go back to the point where i said everyone in the music industry is stupid?
@@rollingpapersmooth5120 😭
@@rollingpapersmooth5120 it’s literally Happened to everyone in the music industry. That’s How the shit is designed. You said stupid ppl do that, yet 90% of the industry is in similar contracts.
Clearly, Otis signed his initial contract UNDER DERESS, it shouldn't be enforceable. A good lawyer should have had the first contract dissloved/ended.
This shit deeper than rap
OJ, it's not your fault. You were a young artist looking to create music for the world to enjoy. The people that say what they would have done have no idea because they haven't been in your shoes.
Cap. He was a street nigga that needed to show legal income on paper for his court cases. OJ had good money in the trap
@@MiNoGanG Trap Knee-Grows w/o their own lawyer has no idea what to look for in a contract.
@@jusdef07 that’s true too. But why sign for 10k up front & 50%… ain’t no way he didn’t know. I think he just wanted his foot in the game
You sign it, it’s your fault.
Exactly I’m tired of people giving people passes for being shitty people and putting the blame on the loyal/real person. Oj knew these people before and outside of music and had a real relationship with them and he gave them his loyalty and they gave him a f**ked up contract and their a** to kiss in return. Yea he should’ve had a lawyer but I put more blame on the disloyal trash humans who did him dirty.
Salute Juice for speaking facts. It’s so many artist who have been robbed by their labels, management, etc
Damn! They did dude dirty and you can tell he respects the interviewer because he's getting grilled and accepting responsibility. The industry is low down dirty.
As hard as you work for your money they’re other people working as hard to take it don’t ever forget that!!!!!!
💯
Ain't nobody taking shit from me. You can believe that
Why is this interviewer trying so hard to get OJ to own what he already says is a mistake? Damn, the man said he made a mistake.
I was thinking the same thing. I stop the vid b4 the end. He knows he messed up no need to dragg it on. He not the first artist to be done dirty so no need to feel bad about it.
Right. Was expecting juice at any second to just be like "damn nigga, I got it, tf else u want me to say" Lol
Forreal. The dude doing the interview act like he down with those people who got over on OJ
@@akilasad5886 the interviewer hinted in the interview he used to work for a Label
Who remembers that 6 ringz mixtape? I used to bump that shit every day In High school. Why they do juice like that?!
If you signed that deal without a lawyer then it's a high probability you didn't read the contract 💯💯💯
He literally just said he told them to have the contract ready AND HE DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO READ IT.....
Big word ....Proof Reading...
He said he didn’t
@@Siillky the comment was made before the video was finished
At the end of the day reading is fundamental
These was so sad to watch especially how big of a fan I was when he was in his prime.
Yeah no bullshit
They used to block the hell out that song on UA-cam. That always made me wonder why rappers didn’t promote and upload the music themselves.
The interviewer really not understanding why Oj signed a deal. Like damn bro in his circumstances he had to do what he had to do. This literally 90% of artist.
- No bro, I heard everything he said in the video. He made a poor choice and got to deal with it. That’s why I am having a lawyer when I sign a contract.
@@QuanBrown27 Bro do you know how much a good lawyer cost? This is very common a lot of these artist don’t have the funds to get a lawyer so they just take for word what the label lawyers tells them. Like I said he was dealing with financial circumstances n had to do what he had to do. It sounds easy to say he should’ve got a lawyer lol a lawyer to read over tons of paper work isn’t cheap
Debbie signed a street legend to a slave contract , THE AUDACITY. A word don’t mean nothing in the music biz
Blame that grown man for not getting HIS business in check
@@bkyungplaya nah..they was fam Wop always talked bout auntie n all his old shit..u can’t shake the camp like that..especially your own son too
@@dawgybonex7605 fam/friend/associate/mom..idc who it is..you have to separate business from all that. People overlook it and get fucked in the end,it's sad because you wouldn't expect it..but money will make mfers do the unthinkable
She said on Drink Champs the one thing she regrets is how she did OJ too. It definitely fucked up
@@bkyungplaya he took ownership did u listen 👂
BRO CANT NOBODY SAY AYE LIKE YOU BRO YOU ONE OF A KIND GO BACK HARD AND GET THAT SHIT RIGHT DONT WAST NO TIME GET BACK ALL THE WAY IN WE WANA HEAR OJ THE JUICEMAN AAAYYYYEEE
The moment you come with a lawyer that’s when the deal comes off the table.
Better off the table then a slave. Always negotiate another deal along as you have talent. Still have to have some business savvy. Lawyers are crooks too
And that would be a good thing.
If he was getting so much money in the street he should've started his own label
@@alonzosmith485 Yeah but without the deal you gotta do all the promotion & all the work they'll do for you. With the deal you just sit back make music & get paid. Without the deal you have a real higher chance of failing tryna do it all on your own cause you have a million other people tryna do the same thing. But everybody else don't get that opportunity to sign to a label.
This was a talent that could've been....damn now I see why he was like fuck rap
Exactly
Getting raped out your money is never a good thing. So this young brother a be ok tho
The interviewer was on 🔥🔥🔥. Shawn Prez is on it!!!!
I appreciate Juice for being so honest in this interview series
Shout out OJ one of the realest in the game. Blessings still coming your way just off of being a stand up guy. God bless
This was so painful to watch and listen to, how he trusted certain ppl and they did that to him smh
Deb Is a monster
These stories of ppl getting got by record labels are endless
Just bumping “Vette pass by” a couple days ago…
Been on my playlist for years
Rule #1 always read & comprehend before u signed a record deal & have a legit lawyer on deck
I’m proud to have produced a song with OJ da Juiceman in 2021. A real street legend
We luv you juice! We need that sound back..
He never stopped bro he been independent 32 ent
He talkin about waka flock mother i think
I respect juice for keepin it a bean about this. Most ppl don’t know how shit can go unfortunately
I dont like the way the interviewer is speaking to juice you can tell he tryna diss him on the low he dound like a real industry vulture himself he know them folks did juice dirty and tricked him i cant stand them nyc industry dudes like him smh
It's called accountability
@@MarkoD404 Shawn being someone who has been at the label, just couldn't understand how badly Mizay took advantage of OJ.
@@MarkoD404 Again he being on the Major label side, didn't understand how Mizay could get away with that. When mention he doesn't understand how does that add up to 50%, he really doesn't comprehend that. Because at the majors there on min/max rates and still that doesn't equate to 50%.
Damn Juice! I wonder if he can rerecord the that album, just like Taylor Swift and Ashanti is doing now.
Him and Gucci was 🔥!
Slim, Shawn knows the answer to the majority of the stuff he has been asking OJ because even I know the answer and I am not even apart of this industry LOL!! I know Shawn is just doing his job and trying to be respectful, but at times, this interview has felt like they were "Twistin the Knife" deeper than what his record label (or whatever entity he was signed to at that time) has already done to OJ. Juice is a complete street guy to the core that was actually a successful street guy to the core. Street guys like OJ are not really wired to plan for the future or to make intelligent business moves outside of street business moves. They don't have anyone to lean on and get them moving on the correct path forward. Someone has to step in and advise them on how to navigate otherwise they wouldn't know what to do just like most people wouldn't know what to do. This type of shit is what record labels and management/publishing/production companies have been doing since the beginning of the music industry. Yes, we all know OJ should have had a lawyer but he's not even gonna think that far into it back then or at that point in the timeline. Then the label started coming at him with critical decisions when he was in the middle of a personal health crisis!! That's the most DESPICABLE part to me.
I felt the same way but not to redirect this most people up north look at us down south as the dumbest people to ever live and he sounds like hes from New York. In a way it sounds like he's asking these questions to low key make fun of OJ and to make him look like he the dumbest artist ever. Yea it might seem like he's being respectful but deep down he's not, I don't like how he ask questions anyway every interview I click on from vlad and I hear his voice I just pass because you can hear the bias in his voice of the people he likes and idolize as an artist and the people he don't Vlad need to find someone else to work and do interviews for him he's horrible and disrespectful.
I don't think the interviewer was disrespectful but just playing devil's advocate. These questions were asked in hindsight. Yes OJ was burned financially but it appears that he has learned his lesson. Your WORD or HANDSHAKE is no longer a BOND in transactions anymore.
@@TwitterVerifier I thought I was the only one who would skip it as soon as I heard his voice and and not Vlads lol
And Debb on love and hip hop acting like she helping people
Mane.... JUICE DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO! Real man bruh. 💪
You live and learn...juice still alive and able to make other investments...that's great to me!!!
Respect OJ…I know the struggle with type 1 diabetes. That shit flips your life around. Stay up bro 🙏
Alaska in Atlanta was to fye
Interviewer brought up a good question about having a lawyer when signing contracts. Also reading it along with them and asking the right questions. So a artist won't get taken advantage of. Saves years of regret. Unfortunately they came at him at a time to sign when he was at a desperate time. Like how they did Pac when signed to Death Row when he was down and in jail.
Even people who u call your family would allow u to sign a terrible contract that's fowl and deb ain't shit for that. I would never sign my friends to bad contract
Another example of when keeping it real goes wrong.
My favorite trap rapper. Much love bro
Oj is a LEGEND
Yup... juice from the streets why have a lawyer knowing juice probably regret that now doe
One to get with you “the one you should read” and one to get out with you the one you should read period
The fact that people saying he gotta own up to it is crazy....Debra knew what she was doing like so many others that create these contacts to take advantage of talented people who don't know the Music business!
Lesson learned street rules honor and loyalty don’t translate to a lot of things the structure may be similar but not the values that are respected and gone by in the streets
Respect to OJ for owning up to his mistakes...
So many of these artists have to pay 3 to 4 different labels & production companies before they get paid. 😲😲😲😲
Knowledge is power
….yeah, I would’ve went back to trappin too. peace juiceman God will provide bro 🙏🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Man juice been that dude had crazy beats and a stupid flow funny and different but he got our attention he had his own lingo we Love you Juice from a day 1 fan my dawg
Shout out to Shawn Prez for a great interview along with OJ da Juice man.
Salute to juice for not telling this story in a prison interview room.
Its a difference between keeping your word and loyalty and being manipulated. What if those shootings were set up by the dude?
One of the realest to do it, been bumping Juice since 07
Praise God for videos like this. This stuff really shows us how ugly the high hop industry is.. God bless Juice and any other artist who has went thru a head hurting time like what he just explained.
Signed off loyalty.. its always the good ones that get advantage taken of
Triple beam scale?
Shawty said he gotta triple beam scale
2:47
Shawn: Where was your lawyer
OJ: Posture change “you kno you fucked up”
This why everyone left momma Deb
That's why educating yourself and not being ignorant is important
My man crunchy black coming back 💯💯
Huh
People that greedy never prosper, you block ya blessings when your heart is filled with greed to this level 💯
they coerced an agreement out of him while he was under duress? He definitely manned up, but that would be an interesting case before the courts
It would cost too much to pursue.
Respect put it out there bro u teaching
The label: So how do you feel about it?
Him: I don’t even wanna read the contract
🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
What doesn't kill you.
Peace Bro.
This story ain’t Nothing compared to how Motown & Blues artists were done so wrong. This is WILLFUL stupidity..not just him this whole “ Rap music” generation
Not a fair assessment but I understand
Prezz don't even know what to say, it's sad because he definitely helped create the sound of trap music smh.
Deb Antney
Deb trash for that. I won't ever support her or her people. She sad af
ALWAYS WILL BE A LEGEND.
Happens to many artists. Contracts not right and the artist still dives head first into the game. Juiceman was too in a rush to get in the game. They looked at juiceman as a come up. He got homeboyed. You can learn alot about contracts just by listening to artists who have gone through what juice went through, what to agree on and what not to agree on.
She was like a mom to him.she took advantage
Damn! They took advantage of OJ, SMH
He took disadvantage of himself.
No it's called accountability..HE MADE THE DECESION to not read his contract or hire a lawyer
Always have a lawyer read over your contract folks
Interview Debbie for robbing this man of a decent career!
They prayed on juice not knowing but he blessed forever come get me juice!!!
he talking about waka flocka mom
You know he is
You gotta remember the business is different from now til the 90s
600 breezy even said asylum records is the worst label he’s ever signed to
Real shit
@AdamN_Eve-NotSteve lol nice username
But he talking bout Mizay Ent end..
Yea they are talking about Ms Debbie and Mizay entertainment
@@dawgybonex7605 right
Sometimes when you make a decision might not be the best decision. When you in a bad situation you learn from your mistakes period.
He got finessed 2x and slapped in the face!
Like dayuuum... He was a man about it.
That person he talking about admitted there wrong doing…..I watched that interview with the other person… salute to oj he’s a legend in the game
Do u have a link to the video or the name of it. I would love to watch it.
they should break bread with him as well
What’s the link to the video
This is 1 reason why artists are going independent have been going independent now because of these reasons record labels record label owners don't want that.
I'm never playing Otha side of tha trap ever again!!