doesn't inform enough for creatives. The pen needing to charge rings alarm bells. You need to do some pen tests. drawing slow diagonal lines, how does it react around screen edges, how much lag does it have with photoshop heavy brushes, .preassure tests, when drawing straight lines how does it taper, does it have those tiny hooks? I rather old Wacom tech with 1024 levels of pressure, than having those issues which is common with battery powered pens. Not all, Apple Pencil is quite good, but I have had massive issues with n-trig pens.
Hey great review, i wanna know about the noise level of this laptop cause im planning on using it to record and produce music mostly. Did you test it with a db meter?
When it spins up the fans are at 33dBs, under load it's around 42dBs. When working on Premiere Pro in a quiet room, didn't notice the fans to give you an idea - YL
Thanks a lot for this review... currently it is sell with a P2000, so, more interresting... But I read somewhere that, with the DreamDisplay its weight can reach 2.6-2.8kg... is that right? It gets really heavy.
That's true, DreamColor panels are slightly thicker plus glass for the touchscreen. ZBook's are solid so again a bit more weight. Will be interesting to see the new HP ZBook Firefly coming out very soon.
@@Dovecomputers Oh ok?? thanks. 2.8kg start to be heavy.... too much... I didn't heard about the HP ZBook Firefly... I will check I guess the new gen of Zbook X360 will be smaller, like the new generation of the HP Spectre....!
Hi. I have to problem with using hp pen. I cant set up buttons from the work on anather app like photoshop. For exeples i wold like to use one pen's buton on photoshop like {Ctrl Z} function. But when I am setup it don't work. I have tray to appoint the buttons on photoshop seting, but photoshop don't see them. I can't find any desides in internet. please help me to chek this problem.
I am looking at the Specre as well. In South Africa only Spectre launched end 2018. Is Zbook older? Which should I buy? Does the 15 inch have number keyboard on side?
The ZBook x360 G5 doesn't come with a keypad. The Spectre 15 does. ZBook has been around for years. Its HP's mobile workstation range with Adobe/CAD spec graphics cards as an example. The Spectre range are powerful, stylish, lightweight laptops.
In October 2018, HP announced this laptop would be available with P2000 graphics, making it a much more capable laptop. Unfortunately, HP has been taking a long time to release it, and I don't know if that version would be available in here Canada. At the moment I'm going to guess the P2000 will not be available in Canada since the gpu is listed as a "customizable" option, and HP does not offer customization here. But other countries may have better luck.
In the UK they have the 5UC06EA#ABU model with P2000 4GB, 4K and i9-8950HK. A cheaper model with the P2000 & i7-8850H, 2ZC52ET#ABU is also available. Both are coming into suppliers around 13rd March. - YL
Dove Computer Solutions Ltd Thanks for the info - maybe something will become available here around at the same time. I wouldn't bother with the i9 - my guess is that it wouldn't do much better than the i7 due to thermals. But I'll probably go with the Xeon model because I want the brand recognition in case I go to sell the laptop later (Xeon with ECC support would sound better to a potential buyer than a "lowly" i7). Otherwise, I would go for the i7-8850H model. I don't know what Canadian retailers are offering, my searches didn't come up with much. I could buy it form the US, but the cost of doing so would be ridiculous. HP Canada only has two models listed, and I can buy a Lenovo P1 that has better specs for a lot less. I find it really frustrating, since this laptop would be perfect for my needs.
hehe, my first thought when I saw the guy "drawing" in that akward angle, was: who likes to drawing in that position/angel; that angle is not comfortable at all;
Thanks very much for this outstanding review - it definitely helped me make my decision to purchase this machine. I do have an issue and perhaps you - or someone else - can help me? I cannot successfully connect a drive to one of the Thunderbolt connectors. The one closest to the power connector works, but the other does not read a drive. Has anyone else had this issue? Thank you very much.
Thanks for responding - I have gone through a number of steps and then sent the machine to HP. I want to be able to use both ports with external hard drives at once. Service tells me the issue is probably due to the fact that plugging in two drives at once is a draw on the power. I guess I have to live with only being able to use one port at a time - which doesn't make a lot of sense?!? Have you been able to do use both ports with external drives at one time?
@@AngeloProMusician Thank you for that information. The price on that is pretty high, but maybe I'll look for a third party alternative, but I appreciate your help. Thanks!
I’m going to buy this laptop to work with my DAW. I was going to buy Dell but they got a huge problem about latency that is incompatible with pro audio jobs. I had an hard time finding something else. Because if you want power, you usually have to go to gaming pc... im glad I found that HP. I’ll be buying it by the end of this month!
@@Dovecomputers Thank you for the response. I would like to ask, if you don't mind about the heat management and egpu connnectivity I am a software developer and most of my time is spent in reading books and writing code. I am looking for a 2 in 1 convertible machine with the maximum performance possible. Budget is no issue. So far, I have found this to be the best available option. I was also considering Lenovo Thinkpad P52 which has touch screen but its screen doesn't go back 360 degree (only 180) so that was a turn off. Coming back to question, is there any significant fan noise when you run heavy applications. The only issue here is poor graphic card. I am thinking about connecting it to a egpu via thunderbolt. And the only worry is how much heat and fan noise this machine (especially with Xeon processor ) will generate in that case
Hi, the i7-8850H is the best price/performance/battery life/heat processor in my opinion. With this CPU, the heat was minimal and under heavy load, the fans were audible but not noticeably loud in a quiet environment. HP does a good job with the thermal management to keep the fans from kicking in too much. Plenty of power for things like 4K encoding Premiere Pro, etc. Xeon CPU's will have the trade-off, of the fans kicking in more frequently than the Intel H CPU's plus more heat and a detriment to the battery life. The ZBook Studio x360 graphics will go up to NVIDIA P2000 4GB, but there's nothing to stop you from an eGPU. Be careful here as I had an AKiTiO Node that didn't have enough power to charge my laptop via the Thunderbolt 3 cable and the GTX 1080 card was too big for the caddy enclosure! - YL
Disappointing to see the screen wobbling so badly which doesn’t quite fit with the quality and design expected from top of the line HP laptop. Design should be all about good functionality where the awful flex and wobble of the screen definitely doesn’t come up to professional standard.
@@poguntkephoto-hilfe1221 I’m considering buying an HP Zbook studio G5, but i didn’t find much reviews about it. Does anyone here has it? Does it have any issues or problems? Would really appreciate it for some honest answers 🙂 Thanks in advance
@@arabiapolicy1077 Dear ARabia Policy, I am using now since July 2019 a HP Zbook studio G5 x360. I love it. It works flawlessly. Everything is fine, I just noticed a little screen bleeding. But this is only noticeable on a complete black background (like on Windows start). While using you cannot see anything about the bleeding. If you are a digital artist I would go for the x360 version as the pen is very good. I am using a 6kp15es model. If you have more questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Best regards and stay healthy, Markus
I don´t understand this fncking companies, for example, I like this device but I really will not buy that flexible plastic tap and that batery, Lenovo in the other hand, has better construction but soldered components, so you cannot upgrade memory,. So, Who understand this brands ? Why they never ask people ?, we are in a time that build fan less devices is possible, graphene bateries, detachable screens and so on.
Such a beautiful laptop, In my school they use these laptops for word processing lol....
Lucky students!
@@Dovecomputers Uh sorry not students the teachers we do not even use phones in school. our way of teaching is a it different
I would love to see some smart keys right beside the screen, as it's target customers are professionals
Very good review bro Does this device support programming well and montage work?
A magnificent laptop for sure! And a great review
Beautiful laptop and thanks for the comments, appreciate it! - YL
The future seems so bright already
doesn't inform enough for creatives. The pen needing to charge rings alarm bells. You need to do some pen tests. drawing slow diagonal lines, how does it react around screen edges, how much lag does it have with photoshop heavy brushes, .preassure tests, when drawing straight lines how does it taper, does it have those tiny hooks? I rather old Wacom tech with 1024 levels of pressure, than having those issues which is common with battery powered pens. Not all, Apple Pencil is quite good, but I have had massive issues with n-trig pens.
Search wacom emr
👆🤞👌👍👋🤓🧐
The pen does not need to charge.
That's very good it's a good laptop does any one know the price of a used one of it?
Hello, could you please specify what CAD benchmark did you use?
Yes please
Great review, which Wacom pen do you suggest?
Comes with an HP pen that uses Wacom technology. I don't think Wacom brand styluses will work with this, you have to use the HP specific version.
Hey great review, i wanna know about the noise level of this laptop cause im planning on using it to record and produce music mostly. Did you test it with a db meter?
When it spins up the fans are at 33dBs, under load it's around 42dBs. When working on Premiere Pro in a quiet room, didn't notice the fans to give you an idea - YL
Thanks a lot for this review... currently it is sell with a P2000, so, more interresting... But I read somewhere that, with the DreamDisplay its weight can reach 2.6-2.8kg... is that right? It gets really heavy.
That's true, DreamColor panels are slightly thicker plus glass for the touchscreen. ZBook's are solid so again a bit more weight. Will be interesting to see the new HP ZBook Firefly coming out very soon.
@@Dovecomputers Oh ok?? thanks. 2.8kg start to be heavy.... too much...
I didn't heard about the HP ZBook Firefly... I will check
I guess the new gen of Zbook X360 will be smaller, like the new generation of the HP Spectre....!
Hi. I have to problem with using hp pen. I cant set up buttons from the work on anather app like photoshop. For exeples i wold like to use one pen's buton on photoshop like {Ctrl Z} function. But when I am setup it don't work. I have tray to appoint the buttons on photoshop seting, but photoshop don't see them.
I can't find any desides in internet.
please help me to chek this problem.
I am looking at the Specre as well. In South Africa only Spectre launched end 2018. Is Zbook older? Which should I buy? Does the 15 inch have number keyboard on side?
The ZBook x360 G5 doesn't come with a keypad. The Spectre 15 does. ZBook has been around for years. Its HP's mobile workstation range with Adobe/CAD spec graphics cards as an example. The Spectre range are powerful, stylish, lightweight laptops.
What about the fans noise? which kicks on every 5 seconds!!
In October 2018, HP announced this laptop would be available with P2000 graphics, making it a much more capable laptop.
Unfortunately, HP has been taking a long time to release it, and I don't know if that version would be available in here Canada. At the moment I'm going to guess the P2000 will not be available in Canada since the gpu is listed as a "customizable" option, and HP does not offer customization here. But other countries may have better luck.
In the UK they have the 5UC06EA#ABU model with P2000 4GB, 4K and i9-8950HK. A cheaper model with the P2000 & i7-8850H, 2ZC52ET#ABU is also available. Both are coming into suppliers around 13rd March. - YL
Dove Computer Solutions Ltd
Thanks for the info - maybe something will become available here around at the same time.
I wouldn't bother with the i9 - my guess is that it wouldn't do much better than the i7 due to thermals. But I'll probably go with the Xeon model because I want the brand recognition in case I go to sell the laptop later (Xeon with ECC support would sound better to a potential buyer than a "lowly" i7). Otherwise, I would go for the i7-8850H model.
I don't know what Canadian retailers are offering, my searches didn't come up with much. I could buy it form the US, but the cost of doing so would be ridiculous. HP Canada only has two models listed, and I can buy a Lenovo P1 that has better specs for a lot less.
I find it really frustrating, since this laptop would be perfect for my needs.
Thinking of buying this--is there some kind of stand you can purchase to reduce wobble when using the pen?
You could fold it flat in tablet mode and buy a laptop stand for it?
hehe, my first thought when I saw the guy "drawing" in that akward angle, was: who likes to drawing in that position/angel; that angle is not comfortable at all;
1:52 this *hurts*
Thanks very much for this outstanding review - it definitely helped me make my decision to purchase this machine. I do have an issue and perhaps you - or someone else - can help me? I cannot successfully connect a drive to one of the Thunderbolt connectors. The one closest to the power connector works, but the other does not read a drive. Has anyone else had this issue? Thank you very much.
Thanks! Both ports are Thunderbolt 3. Have you tried re-installing the TB drivers and/or updating them?
Thanks for responding - I have gone through a number of steps and then sent the machine to HP. I want to be able to use both ports with external hard drives at once. Service tells me the issue is probably due to the fact that plugging in two drives at once is a draw on the power. I guess I have to live with only being able to use one port at a time - which doesn't make a lot of sense?!? Have you been able to do use both ports with external drives at one time?
@@AngeloProMusician Thank you for that information. The price on that is pretty high, but maybe I'll look for a third party alternative, but I appreciate your help. Thanks!
This laptop is for digital audio workstation???
Yes, you can use it for this application - YL
@@Dovecomputers .. so MacBook Pro..Vs hp zbook which is better for music production??
Hp ZBook ...need CPU???
That's more of a personal decision, both great choices but down to what you are are use to? MacOS or Windows 10. - YL
I’m going to buy this laptop to work with my DAW. I was going to buy Dell but they got a huge problem about latency that is incompatible with pro audio jobs.
I had an hard time finding something else. Because if you want power, you usually have to go to gaming pc... im glad I found that HP. I’ll be buying it by the end of this month!
which mic u using mate
I am going to buy it 😋
You won't go wrong with the HP ZBook Studio x360 G5. I loved it while we had the review model at the office. Was sad to see it go! 😪 - YL
@@Dovecomputers Thank you for the response. I would like to ask, if you don't mind about the heat management and egpu connnectivity
I am a software developer and most of my time is spent in reading books and writing code. I am looking for a 2 in 1 convertible machine with the maximum performance possible. Budget is no issue.
So far, I have found this to be the best available option. I was also considering Lenovo Thinkpad P52 which has touch screen but its screen doesn't go back 360 degree (only 180) so that was a turn off.
Coming back to question, is there any significant fan noise when you run heavy applications. The only issue here is poor graphic card. I am thinking about connecting it to a egpu via thunderbolt. And the only worry is how much heat and fan noise this machine (especially with Xeon processor ) will generate in that case
Hi, the i7-8850H is the best price/performance/battery life/heat processor in my opinion. With this CPU, the heat was minimal and under heavy load, the fans were audible but not noticeably loud in a quiet environment. HP does a good job with the thermal management to keep the fans from kicking in too much. Plenty of power for things like 4K encoding Premiere Pro, etc. Xeon CPU's will have the trade-off, of the fans kicking in more frequently than the Intel H CPU's plus more heat and a detriment to the battery life.
The ZBook Studio x360 graphics will go up to NVIDIA P2000 4GB, but there's nothing to stop you from an eGPU. Be careful here as I had an AKiTiO Node that didn't have enough power to charge my laptop via the Thunderbolt 3 cable and the GTX 1080 card was too big for the caddy enclosure! - YL
@@Dovecomputers Thanks for the info. Much appreciated!
@@Dovecomputers dude does tht lack backlit key board ?
What software were you using to draw?
Adobe Photoshop and pre-installed HP 'paint' like software.
Disappointing to see the screen wobbling so badly which doesn’t quite fit with the quality and design expected from top of the line HP laptop. Design should be all about good functionality where the awful flex and wobble of the screen definitely doesn’t come up to professional standard.
Good for video editing?
Youu need more than 6 4.0 Ghertz cores?
but i want to wat is battery life for 4k variant
The 4K model will eat battery life under heavy load. Look at approx. 2/3 hrs max. General usage 6/7 hrs. Also, it has fast charge. - YL
Battery life is quite good on mine (4k 8850, P2000) 6- 8 hours in normal use. 2 hours using all 6 cores permanently by 100% in turbo.
@@poguntkephoto-hilfe1221 Does it have much thermal throttling when you use it heavily?
@@poguntkephoto-hilfe1221
I’m considering buying an HP Zbook studio G5, but i didn’t find much reviews about it. Does anyone here has it? Does it have any issues or problems?
Would really appreciate it for some honest answers 🙂
Thanks in advance
@@arabiapolicy1077 Dear ARabia Policy, I am using now since July 2019 a HP Zbook studio G5 x360. I love it. It works flawlessly. Everything is fine, I just noticed a little screen bleeding. But this is only noticeable on a complete black background (like on Windows start). While using you cannot see anything about the bleeding. If you are a digital artist I would go for the x360 version as the pen is very good. I am using a 6kp15es model. If you have more questions please do not hesitate to contact me.
Best regards and stay healthy,
Markus
whats the point to have a glossy screen in such expensive laptop for graphic designers ... !
Agree! HP learnt their lesson with using a matte touchscreen on the HP ZBook x2 G4 - watch out for my review soon
can it be used for workloads
Definitely not heaven compared to last zbook studio I had was approx 4kg
Gaming ok?
Im lookin for a laptop good for 3d modeling, cad drawing
As well as light gaming
Look at the new HP ZBook Create G7 and Studio G7 laptops. Just out this week. 👍
sir iam looking for buying it
I don´t understand this fncking companies, for example, I like this device but I really will not buy that flexible plastic tap and that batery, Lenovo in the other hand, has better construction but soldered components, so you cannot upgrade memory,. So, Who understand this brands ? Why they never ask people ?, we are in a time that build fan less devices is possible, graphene bateries, detachable screens and so on.
it is a poor copy of Lenovo`s P40 two years ago...
Oh i remember that garbage,equipped with the useless quadro m500m. What a cheap joke that was. Made me wait for a powerful enough device like this.
Bad ideia