700 Students to be deported from Canada for fraud 😱
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This must be an eye opener for every person who is willing to go to canada. Apply only through an IRCC agent.
If you think those students didn’t know what was happening than u are insane 😂
This was the first question which raised in my mind. When I read this news, that how the hell I RCC can give you a study visa based on a fake admission letter. IRCC should be questioned in this matter.
Fraud is fraud .deport them
This baffles me, they must have absolutely known that they were committing fraud. As an international UNDERGRAD student in the US, I had done my due diligence and even applied for my US visa on my own at the age of 18. I was a bonafide student at a well-recognized university having taken the SATs and TOEFL and was well aware of the laws and requirements through my own thorough research. I do not buy into their victim card tbh. Anyone who pays a huge sum to shady agents instead of going through right channels are pretty much doing it intentionally.
Students were very much aware. They didn't want to go through the proper channel cos they wouldn't get qualified.
Exactly…on point as always
Ignorance is no excuse for law. It is sad that someone may have taken advantage of these students, but they knew full well that the acceptance letters they presented were fraudulent. How could they not know what they were doing by submitting a letter of acceptance from a University they were never accepted to. In the event that they were unaware, due diligence would have shown that the actions they chose to take were fraudulent.
Hopefully, with all the education they received, they can find a way back that does not involve fraudulent actions.
No they will now be banned for a minimum of five years before they can apply for PR.
@@billstock3663 They have no chance of getting PR in their lives. They cannot try for any other country (USA, UK, AUS, NZ) because of the Five Eyes Treaty.
it's called a loop hole, the sutdents were clueless but if
they paid "the agent" an abnormal sum of money that in itself is a red flag, also approvals would be issued under corrupt officials but once they're replaced if the gov't is on to it, all documentation could be re examined and those approvals that did not pass through the proper channels
would be flagged an dealt with...
Students are responsible. That’s what the court said. If you intended to stay in Canada, you would have respected the justice system. So there’s no reason to disrespect it now. Accept the decision like a person of conscience. If you can’t even respect the justice system, how could we have expected you to do it when you would have been granted PRs
You have made extremely valid point
they are lucky that they weren't sent to prison.
Its not fair to say that they were not aware of what was there. Any good university or college ask to create student account on their portal to even rollout the letter of acceptance and maintain all records. How those things are missing when students get LOA from reputed institutions. The argument doesn’t hold strong for that they were not aware of it.
I agree with this. Universities always reach out by sending emails and they generally always send out the letters themselves to the students. I really don't believe that all the students here are victims, some definitely would be, most knew what they were doing
Doesn't matter, if they have finished their study at an approved college. but other hand 100s thousands of illegal refugees are coming those who sit on welfare from day one, especially from south asia, africa and south america.
Thats the point. They way these people are explaining it, all faults are on agents side but the truth is, the students were fully aware and as their seniors are already on the same scheme and settled in canada it was an easy option. Its a organized scam and when a student is admitted into a college or uni, before coming they are asked to open portal, upload their doc and so many academic things. Unfortunately they got caught after so many years. The youtubers should tell the truth and warn the students from any country to be cautious and mindful of doing any kind of such scam as it does not matter how long you have been here, if they find, they will deport.
This news really brings down the morale of the international students who opts for canadian study. Matter of fact is that there are so many students who are being hit by the REJECT bullet during these hard times which makes things worse now. Feeling sad for the students who were deported and rejected as well. Dont keep your hopes down, keep working ,keep moving , YOU WILL WIN BIG!!!!
The idea should be do a thorough research and not fall into the trap of too good to be true stories of these unscrupulous agents
Why? Don’t do anything stupid . It’s an eye opener.
Great take!
This is because at the time IRCC and embassies don't coordinate with the schools to confirm admission. This is because at the time they have not yet developed an internal system that facilitated exchange of information between the schools and government. It cost money for IRCC and embassy to contact the schools to verify admission and student details. I hope this helps
Kubeir, it may be IRCC is curbing Indians to come here now. Because, the number of people coming from India here are insane. And IRCC now knows most of these students are coming basically for PR as you mentioned in previous video. Most of these students are taking one or two years programs for the hope of getting work permit and eventually PR.
Curbing any specific nationality is not something they are looking to do. Also they derive huge benefit from the Indian students who contribute to Canadian economy and $26B education industry
That's ridiculous. Not the case.
Robin Lee Very true
@@AskKubeir seems like more & more are coming here with fake documents
Yeah as a natural Canadian myself I sometimes ask myself if I am in India or Canada that there are so many who have invaded my country. And many Indians (Sikhs) who are now living in Canada have gotten fraudulent mortgages through the help of some Indians who work at one of our major banks,this has only added to the housing crisis and rental crises we are experiencing in Canada right now. I'm so sick of 3rd world immigrants coming to Canada and taking advantage of our naive government and also causing alot of problems for us natural Canadians who have lived here all of our lives with the fraud being committed by them. Please advise Indians that Canada is no promise land that they are being lead to believe.
700 less in Canada....wee little dent
Thanks for speaking up!! I don't know why most UA-camrs are keeping mum😢
So many people keep trying to lay the blame for this at the feet of the IRCC for not catching this in the first place. Consider that there would be a far lower level of scrutiny for a short term study visa than there would be for permanent residency. Further, each and every one of these students would have known this was fraudulent when they found out their acceptance letters were fake and they weren't enrolled in those schools. The students then chose to actively perpetuate the fraud by using their study visas (which they then knew were acquired using fraudulent acceptance letters) to obtain positions at other schools. It was only when they applied to become permanent residents that the deeper scrutiny of their eligibility caught them actively participating in the fraud that they had initially fallen victim to. The results are that they are here illegally due to fraud committed by the agent as well as continued by themselves.
The Agent was fraudulent to the student & to the college. These to sadly must be removed from Canada and the agent imprisoned. Then look at the country from were the agent was from and you may have a result of were most fraudsters in the world come from. Sorry but bye bye ,try again legally.
bitememoto1 👍
Based on your comment one should avoid Canada completely. And I mean everybody. Look where the racists come from. Don’t generalize based on your warped mentality .
Exactly that is the main point what kind of background they did at the time of study permit application. Now they are saying all this.
Good, they broke the rules. This is not India.
ircc visa officer refused me and i'm enrolled in a DLI with an authentic LoA for imaginary reasons like having familty ties while i have 0 souls in Canada, let alone this case of 700 souls, shows what a professional departement and credibility..this sad and a joke at the same time.
you have everything right and you get refused for the most hilarious reason with no logic and other people get in with a fake LoA...a big LoL , idk i'm starting to feel that Canada is a big overrated bubble and that the reality has nothing to do with what's being advertised by IRCC and the gov in the "We welcome and want foreign people" and "we give pr to benefit Canada and reciprocally benefit the foreign nationals it's a win-win." if that's the case why everything is fishy and foggy and frustrating and infuriating.. every time they come up with something , one time not enough quotas other time they raise the immigration criteria, like pick an opinion you want or doesn't want foreign people.
if people studied in your country and/or already gained Canadian experience in jobs, they should get PR end of the story.
why they make life even more misreable and hard for students and immigrants. that idk..one time Ontario is good for PR other time no no Ontario is Bad what is good and what is bad, ton of questions and ton of frustration and there is no one with valuable knowledge to answer sadly.
Who ever is wrong from first day is wrong forever no excuse must be kicked out
Ali Ahmed Agree.
What a shock . A scam from India . Say it ain’t so
It sure is.
Then it is so. Life lessons can be very hard sometimes. None of us are spared of them. This is their's
I have seen so many Punjabi kids here who cannot speak passable English. How did they expect to study here? Most of the kids drive around in cars with loud music. I don’t feel sorry for them AT ALL. I feel sorry for the parents. They are the ones who will suffer the most.
Omg so sad 😢
You are 100% right. A couple days ago, somebody came for a Consultation with a PFL in hand. His stand was this: Sir, I know at least 10 more folks who have submitted similar kinds of fake documents that I did, yet all of them are in Canada, why did I only receive the PFL? That is IRCC for you.
Well just because some one else got away with it, does not mean everyone will get away with it.
The point is that whoever gets caught will have to pay the price, and since one doesnt know who that person who gets caught will be, hence everyone should be watchful.
Also those who got away, did they really get away. IRCC can come back years later and catch you, just as it has happened with these 700 students
This is really ridiculous. You are very true, Sir...The students became the scapegoats and it's very tormenting
I think these 700 students are the victims of time when everything was online during Covid. People who misused the time and money of these students for the sake of being agents and got them admitted to fake online universities. I feel student are innocent in these cases. Action should be taken against agents. I feel sad for these students and their families what their mental status would be right now.
K J S These students are adults and must take full responsibility.
They got their visas in 2018. What're you going on about?
Creating a kind of portal by ircc where colleges can send a final list of students admitted to each intake would help the visa officers a lot....add some filters and make it as a central repository....all they have to do is type the name or passport number of the applicant and check whether they are admitted on the official list or not.....i think this can solve the fake letter kind of issue
Anoop Nair A good check and balance idea.
Send your suggestion to the Minister of IRCC, Mr. Sean Fraser.
Ircc agents don't know most of the process. Try talking to the agents at ircc...same day talk to 5 guys for one issue...all 5 will 5 different answers. These 700 students must be reinstated.
Immigration minister should look into this ircc failure.
URGENT!!!
Hi sir, really sorry to ask a doubt unrelated to the video topic.
I'm processing OINP-HCP, to show ties I've thought of listing my friends. My doubt is do these friends have to be on PR, or can they be on any other visa?
It doesn't matter. You can check show or indicate any friends that you have on any status or if even if you don't it is fine
@@AskKubeir thanks a lot for responding
I am just waiting to get a job have some money with me to consult with you for my PR application....You are awesome and the information are definetly helpful
FINALLY!! Someone made a concrete video by pointing out the actual question that needs to be raised.
I have been commenting on almost all the videos with the likewise questions.
Putting them here again.
Firstly, it must be asked how the university granted admission to students if their documents, particularly the offer letter, were counterfeit.
Secondly, if the documents were fraudulent, how were the students able to obtain a student visa without being detected during the initial screening process?
Thirdly, why did immigration officials grant them a Study permit upon their arrival at the airport, and how were they able to evade detection at this stage?
Fourthly, it must be inquired as to why IRCC offered the students work permits upon completion of their studies, and how they managed to evade detection yet again.
While the agent is undoubtedly at fault in this situation, questions must also be raised regarding the potential negligence of IRCC.
It is crucial that these concerns are addressed and that the immigration officials and university take responsibility for their actions impact on these students' futures!!
All important questions
Biprojit C You got the first fact wrong, i.e. the agent in India FAKED the Fanshaw College admission acceptance letters for these students, not the college.
Though IRCC missed seeing the admission letters as fake, ultimately, the students are responsible for their applications. All 700+ should be deported, post a hearing.
Clarifying your first question: University never granted them admission. Students would have came to know about the fraud if they have tried to approach the college/university. Students were told by agent to switch college which is easier to do once you land in Canada. They got new offer letters from new college where they completed their studies.
I agree with second question. It normally takes 1-3 months to make visa decision hence it should have been detected.
Thirdly, officers does not verify all the documents at the airport. They are not going to make calls to the college to verify the offer letter. If that happens then it will take long hours or days (if student arrive late evening or weekends) before letting students leave the airport.
Fourthly, the fraudulent offer letter was not used/uploaded while applying for post graduation work permit. Students have likely used the new offer letter, transcript from college where they completed the studies. In the future, IRCC might add additional checklist to submit the first offer letter in case of DLI change. They might complicate the process of moving from one college to another.
Unfortunately fraud is fraud. Are they really leaving? Or they are detained until trial. Blame needs to occur otherwise others will do the same.
I believe they didn't get caught because someone inside was also helping, an inside job.
Now canadian govt will be more strict
Hard time for these students n their families dream of canada.
Sir.. why not catching the VISA officer who approved the VISA and secondly.. the officer at Canada airport immigration counter who allowed them to enter Canada...
why no enquiry on these ppl
I'm sure there would be something happening there as well, just that we won't get to know of it
@@AskKubeir Sir.. when LMIA is being sold openly in the market and social media platforms..
the same is getting approved on every check and as the person is inside Canada, the contract is terminated on the very first day ... all is happening openly... this clearly means Money is working and skills are not
For sure they new..how the agent is going to submit papers if they don't provide them..they did not meet the critera to apply so he help them to creat it🤷♀️,,,and they paid him..of course they knew🤥
They claim papers provided by the agent
Did they submitted fake degrees and diploma? When they gave the agents the documents, did they not ask the agents why you are submitting fake documents?
It’s just unfortunate for the students because fraud was committed and they benefited from it. Ignorance of the law is just an unfortunate turn of events.
True that
When a student is admitted into a college or university, they are asked to do tons of academic related task (open account, upload documents and so many things). Just think for a moment, if you have a fake offer letter and come to canada and agent starts telling you bullshit logics then the first thing you would do is to contact with the college and they would have known right away that those offer letters are fake. The reason none of them ever complained because they all knew about the scam. Doing this scam, their seniors were already there and being settled as cases started way back in 2018 or.even earlier. So it was an easy option. Unfortunately they got caught just now.
Good decision by Canada....UK, Australia must follow....
Unfortunately for immigration the onus is on the individual to provide an oath the documents are true. The families need to go after the person that defrauded them. If Canada doesn't take a firm stand, much more fraud will occur. This needs to be a warning for all immigrants to be careful on who helps them with documentation and legal paperwork. You should be obtaining (albeit expensive investment in your future) an immigration lawyer from your desination country. You want an agent with a fiduciary duty that can be held accountable at the destination country. If you involve a 3rd party, you need to find one that is trustworthy. Fraud and scams are increasing, you need to protect yourself.
Immigration is extremely stringent there is no guarantee to anyone, in my experience immigrating to the USA.
I'd anticipate many students being rejected in the near future, I doubt there was just 1 agency defrauding families... as 800,000 international students currently have study permits in Canada as of 2022.
While the person did defraud them, how was it not caught earlier, and the students notified? This is not only an issue of the agent who did it. This is a failure of the IRCC. They are supposed to heavily scrutinize the immigration process to make sure that everything is legitimate.
@Icecaptain I heard many of these students entered the country with the fraudulent document and switched schools after landing. My understanding of the process is the document is suppose to be the proof, with then continued schooling being the requirement to extend a visa. But entering fraudulently is a black mark against obtaining residency.
Those same admission letters can be used to open bank accounts, get student bank accounts, get student pricing on UA-cam and so on.
So while continued schooling allowed them to stay. The way they got in, was illegal. It likely wasn't noticed when schools changed, because you could in theory switch schools. The problem was the fraud was used to enter the country. I guess the alternative is to tell international students they can't change schools or programs, and those changes require a new visa request from the student.
A M These are not immigrants. These are international students.
@Icecaptain it's not a failure of the IRCC they just at the time were not able authenticity e the authenticity
But it not agent only it's team work truth wil come out but students are innocent
How can the students didnt knew that they are not studying here? didnt they went to college ever? didnt they give any exams? didnt they were called for convocation? there are several hundreds of whatsapp, facebook groups of students. Didnt they figure out that they were not having the same things as others are. I mean how can one study and pass from a college without knowing that he ever studied there.
Their colleges were changed, once they arrived in Canada. They completed their studies and even got their work permits
@@AskKubeir This doesn't justify the case. These students were lazy and ignorant of doing the process by themselves and believed the agent. Such students are not needed in Canada. Also, International students are on a temporary visa subjected to deportation if they violate laws or commit fraud.
i think There is no Fraud if They are Students for Real Learning and Good Performance on Exams Where is the Fraud ?
Its the law look it up stop being so naieve
Wich A fraud is when you submit a fake admission letter and sign the application form, pure and simple.
Fraud is not acceptable
pls watch this video carefully what he is explaining it's true
Thank you
Why aren't they doing this to all the Nigerians that are running into the country? What's up with that?
😂why do you hate nigerians
@@hammedtijani Probably the sagging pants 😂
@@seahacklabs8144 you have finally commented, now clap for yourself achievement unlocked
so true! IRCC's transparency is always unpredictable
My inner self is saying that these students know well in advance what is going to happen from india itself .... it's not like that agent was hiding all this from students....all these students were struggling to get their visas in the first place due to some reasons and they came to this agent and mist have been pleading to him that " do whatever you can , but i just want to go to canada at any cost and price ".....
The agent is not speaking anything because he is fearing for his life and his business.....
Students now playing the victim card and trying all this drama to avoid deportation.....
Sorry to be harsh, but That's what is happening now with the students who have a very low chance of getting a canada visa....
People who got away just be careful because the friends that know you might sabotage and complain to cbsa to take grudge against you....
My only question is if they did eventually get accepted to a school.... why have the fraud part at all?
Like you, I suspect there are undoubtedly some that did know. Immigration is very stringent, you can't have a single thing wrong, or you will not be accepted. There isn't room to be flexible, like security you must endure getting on to an airplane.
@@AM.000 So, you’re saying if you have a fake Driver’s license or Aadhar card and you get away with it, that makes it legit and one must not pay the price after getting caught because you got away with it once?
IRCC do not check acceptance letter 😂 you should be providing LEGIT documents... If they are married with canadian and have children then they wont face deportation due to the fact they situation is different... the candian gov will not split up a family!! But for the students who came to canada under false pretenses that dont have what i listed above.. then unfortunately they will be deported
MindControl Canada has separated families. I have heard/read of many examples where the Canadian born is/are allowed to stay and the 'illegal act' person/non-Canadian deported.
Don't break the law then 🙌