Can you ferment leftover "cooked rice water" in lieu of fermenting "rice water"?!?! I cook my rice in extra water... then strain out the cooked rice and place the remaining liquid into a mason jar to let it ferment. I presume it would have extra starch in it compared to stirring uncooked rice in water. 🤔
I add sourdough starter discards and old yogurt to a bucket in my yard that i feement plant matter in. When i started adding those things, my veggies thanked me by producing more food. It wasnt until a few weeks ago that i realized i was culturing a lot of l.a.b. and feeding it to my soil. Thanks for the video
@@JanetUrsel It's a different kind. Yogurt making uses heat. LAB is very easy to make. A little rice water left out to ferment a few days, mixed with milk. Cover with coffee filter and leave it on the counter for a few days. Skim off the curd on top. That's it.
I recently added LAB to our winter compost pile. Mostly brown material that went through the thermophilic cycle for a couple of months. Definitely saw increased temps. But I'm not positive it was the only reason temps shot up. Will definitely use it in future. Thanks for the information:) Cheers from Victoria BC
It almost feels like science class for grown ups! LOL I will have to give this a try for my indoor plants since the outdoor is almost done for the season. :)
Once I made a small batch (around 500 ml) that remained in the refrigerator for almost a year without being used and ended up in the drainage. It’s alway good to keep lacto B for everything including foliage spray. A video demonstration is a good idea as well.
Hey! I was wondering about this! Bokashi composting seemed real interesting. Using these bacteria to break down meat, dairy, and eggshells before adding to the compost pile! Ashley, I was also wondering what the short term and long term implications of using chemical fertilizer has on soil life and long term soil health. People talk about "harmful salts" building up in your soil and acidification of the soil. What are these "harmful salts" and why are they bad for your soil? And how much chemical fertilizer could I use before having negative effect on my soil?
Hi Ashley, yes that would be great. I have been looking on this on your channel. Great to hear you are going to do this bokashi topic. Since bokashi is anaerobic fermentation started from EM1 culture, Eventhough they are facultative anaerobic, does it mean EM1 microbes wont thrive in our aerobic soil? Is the lactobacillus from your DIY recipe aerobic or facultative anaerobic?
I have a hard time composting. All I have is straw to mix it with. I’ll make some of this to mix with it to, but the straw doesn’t break down very fast. I do live under a bunch of redwoods, but I thought that it was too acidic to use. What do you think?
Thank you for doing a video on this! I was reading about the EM-1 "effective microbes" they sell as a soil amendment and for bokashi composting and an interesting experiment was done testing how the brand name EM-1 solution compared to just plain sauerkraut juice in a composting toilet and found there was no notable difference between the two. So for those into making lacto-fermented sauerkraut, there's your lab solution! I'm definitely going to be trying this method over the rice wash and milk method or maybe both to compare the two. 🤩
For your next project, I suggest lots of people will take benefit of a video showing how to move some of your annuals indoor over the winter. I moved a chilli pepper and snap dragon last year and this year I am planning to move following tomato verities: San Marzano, Rapunzel, Mule Team and possibly sun gold. Korean red pepper, Pusa Jawal (Indian red chilli verity) a Chinese long red pepper. One cilantro, a basil, oregano, Thai and sweet basil and finger long egg plant. Oh and finally I had one okra that I left for seeds to try for next year (baby bubba verity) Note: this snaps dragon was started with seed taken from my old house where it developed multi coloured flowers with cross pollination. This plant is coming indoor as well.
@@GardeningInCanadaI’m also interested in this. Want to keep some plants in the basement cuz they won’t survive our zone 2 winter. Don’t have cold storage. Basement is about 17° and im planning to mulch wellso it’s dark. hoping that can keep everyone dormant. How much should I water? Will they get mold?
I've been making LABS for a few years now and I use it in a variety of different ways, I clean with it as well, also you can actually see it work in real time if you have let's say a dog that has a favorite spot that has a lot of dog oil built up, making up a bit of LABS and it will pretty much melt it off and it comes right up with a towel or cloth, it's amazing stuff
I always encourage DIY whenever possible, but there is a pretty awesome LABS product by Teraganix called EM-1. There's also Fermented Plant Extracts, he uses LABS to make all his fermented extracts and he even has a KNF Pro line with all the components needed for the KNF system. Thanks for the videos. I love using LABS in the garden. This taught me more about its mechanisms and even some benefits I was unaware of.
@@GardeningInCanada Correct! The liquid can also be combined with more water and molasses and fermented further to create more. I think it's an awesome off the shelf LAB serum for people who don't have time to make their own or just want to try it out before making their own. The Fermented Plant Extracts are a also a liquid product. They take a LAB serum a step further and use it to ferment and break down plant material. Whcih of course this process can also be done at home. A lot of information available on fermented plant extracts comes from anecdotal experiences. Would love to hear more about them from a scientific perspective!
Thanks for the info. There is a product called (generically) EM-1 that is sold in the states. Popular among cannabis growers and found at hydro shops in Northern CA.
Hi, omg, love the feed. Love love love. Couple questions: Lactobacillus for arid/xeric plants that have a greater degree of dry out between waterings? How do lactobacillus and humic acid interact?//any ethical source of humic acid in so called USA? Curious about how you supplement heat, if you do, when attempting to switch metabolism functions of sansevieria indoors, under lights, and like how do you stave off rot if doing so in winter, indoors? 💖
there’s a product on amazon called plant probiotic from a company called micra•culture. there’s beneficial bacteria and fungi in it. i’ve not bought or used it though so idk much (the reviews look promising) but for $15 a 2oz bag when i have more than 48 plants (it says you should add 1/4th teaspoon per potted plant per month), i think making LAB might be better for me. unless i start choosing favorites 😗 (i’m looking at my hoyas and citrus trees)
I love that i find stuff im almost always interested in! Ive been making this since moving to CR. I just made a thingy with 5 tablespoons of this jobes 444 6 tablespoons of brown sugar and filled it with my finished labs mixture. I wonder what its potential is. It was just a 'lets see what happens' experiment lol but it almost all dissolved in a week and made that kinda thick film on top so i cleaned it off and put it the fridge for later. Imma start using a shot glass per 5 liter watering can and water it into my beds. Lets see if i knew what i was doing ☺️ fingers crossed
Hi Ashley thank you for another informative video! A few months ago I tried making something similar to this with Fermented Plant Juice a technique used in Korean Natural Farming. Have you tried making one or have read about it? Would love to see a video discussing more about Fermented plant Juice and other DIY fertilizers/inoculants that really work :)
It doesn't have a relationship but it thrives in inverse environments. So for example lactobacillus enjoys higher levels of moisture then mycorrhizae does.
Hello. I was watching an older video about Rhizobium bacteria. I immediately went out to buy the recommended inoculant from McKenzie, but due to production issues everyone was sold out. My question is, is there a way to grow your own Rhizobium bacteria?
Wow, I knew lactobacillus was a thing, but not how good it was in the soil. Time to start brewing! (and I thought it was only good for humans taking antibiotics!)
The channel Fraser Valley Rose farm has a video on composting with the help of this bacillus. Please talk someday about bacillus subtillus, I used to be able to get this as a registered Bo-fungicide but Bayer sold the Natria line. Now it is sold as a fertilizer by Earth Alive and I wonder if it still has fungicide properties? They claim many things about it but for sure it binds sandy soil to help save water.
Hello Ashley! Thank you for your video, I was wondering if you had any scientific references that supports the method you describe in your website to make our own innoculent? I would like to use this method for project in uni but I can't find any litterature about this method....
Hi Thank you for your amazing contents! is it more difficult to culture the microbes in soil-less medium compare to more organic potting mix? I use about 30% coco coir, 10% worm casting and the rest are orchid barks and pearlite and activated charcoal. Would the microbes be able to thrive in a draining mix like this? Thanks 🙏🏻
It can be only because we allowed to dry out so much in between each watering. This is a very common way of dealing with Houseplants and unfortunately is the opposite of what microbes need.
Was wondering if that's the white mycelium looking stuff that was infesting my compost since I used spent grain and kefir and milk in my compost. Also aged forest leaves, apple pomace, maple saw dust, plants, kitchen scraps, spent coffee, beans, oats, etc.
Thank you for this information. I know this is part of the Korean natural farming(knf) and I was wondering what your are your thoughts on knf in Canada? Most of the research I have done is all located in the south. Especially Hawaii. Is it doable in Canada? I have made a few things from it and do believe that it does work
There is a guy in the States using it on his farm. He has a channel here called 'Nature's always right'. I know he has done some stuff on it and was putting all kinds of homemade concoctions on his soil. :)
@@DragonflyenAmber I use knf all the time in Edmonton, comfrey fpj an lab have worked awesome on my bte garden, speeding up the breakdown of wood chips
It's funny because you posted this not 20min after I just chucked a spoonful of yogurt into my compost tea as an experiment. I used to brew sour beers and had an expired vile of L bacillus in my fridge. Used that in one of my previous compost teas and it seemed to help. What are your thoughts on using yogurt as a starter? How about strains of baccillus used in brewing? I know there are some garden companies that sell it, but usually at an outrageous price.
Your blog says, "mix 2 tablespoons of activated liquid with a gallon of water. You can apply this every time you water." Would this also apply to something like whey from a batch of yogourt I've made, as it's also rich in lactobacillus, or would the whey attract pests?
I am a new homeowner and overseeded my lawn. What about a video about herbionik low maintenance seed with endophytes and promix seed with mycorhyzal fungi which should help with weeds or insects?
Hm, I wonder if there is a particular strain this recipe is targeting, because lactobacillius is also found in other actual food recipes such as sourdoughs, yogurts, kefirs, even sometimes the scoby in komchucha.
@@GardeningInCanada i would love to see your take on the farming technique and the science behind it if you decide to make a video on it. Btw love your channel im learning so much!
Can I just use the rice water that sit for 1 week? is that the water already with certain amount of lactobacillus? Wondering if I could use that water without diluting/adding less water to dilute it. My family eat rice almost every night and we get quite a lot of rice water, just wondering if I could save the trouble and cost for the later steps of adding milk and sugar.
I love to ferment everything - do I have to use caution with using brine from sauerkraut and fermented veggies because there is Himalayan or sea salt in it? Or is a little natural salt okay for the soil? I wonder what the ratios are?
salt in small doses is technically an essential nutrient. I would be comfortable using a diluted brine in an outdoor setting but would avoid it when it comes to indoor/soil less (peat or coir).
Okay so I made a mistake and planted very young brassica seedlings this year into compost I had laid maybe 4 inches thick on my garden. The mistake is that the quality of the compost I used isn't as finished as I would like. It is a woodier compost from the municipality and my seedlings have zero growth since I planted them over four weeks ago. And the youngest leaves turned light grayish purple and yellow which tells me there is a lack of nitrogen accessable to the small roots of my plants. I want to be able to direct sow in my garden this year without scraping the top layer of compost off. Will using LAB regularly help make that possible or do I need to start all over in areas that I want to direct sow? I'm not as concerned about the older plant starts because I believe I can just plant them deeper but my poor carrots, leafy greens and root vegetables are where I get real concerned. Also there is a layer of cardboard under the compost that I used as a weed barrier. Should I poke some holes through it to help the roots get through better?
I’m a South Asian and we wash then soak the rice, lentils for 15 minutes up to 2 hours. I’ve learnt to use the rice/beans soaked water for plants from my MIL. Your diy recipe asks to toss away the rice. Is there any reason for that? Food wastage is already a common problem in this part of the world. I really like learning from someone like you who studies about that particular subject before sharing to the public. But it’ll be great if you care about other issues like wastage or the environmental impact too. I’ve firsthand seen what happens when people go hungry so it’ll mean a lot. Thank you.
no you could definitely use it. technically washing or soaking your rice is advised. someone was saying there is a Mexican dish that uses the rice and cinnamon
@@GardeningInCanada one cup of rice, half a cup of lentils, throw in a pot with little bit of mixed spices (we use ground turmeric, ground cumin, whole green chillies, one small bay leaf, little cinnamon and 2 cardamom). Add 3 cups of boiling hot water. We traditionally don’t use rice cooker so cook in medium heat without lid until most of the water evaporates then put lid on and keep on low until the rice is done. Good on its own or with any fried veggies or eggs. It’s a Bangladeshi recipe called Khichuri which we usually make during rainy season ❤️
So two years later..... you were saying it would be so nice to buy a probiotic for soil in this video. Recently you had a video about Bokashi compost and bokashi bran. Would this be what you would now consider a soil probiotic? (PS your website is down)
Hi Ashley! My commercially purchased bokashi accelerator spray is made of Lactobacillus (along with yeast and sugar cane molasses), could I potentially just dilute this in water instead of making my own lactobacillus brew? A recipe for Lactobacillus serum by Landtasia Organic Farms is pretty similar to the process you describe in your blog and they suggest this serum be used for both the garden AND the bokashi/other compost bins, which is why I am wondering whether my commercially purchased one would also be interchangeable for these purposes. On that note, like you mentioned in your bokashi video, would this lactobacillus treatment mean the peat moss in my indoor potting mixes will decompose quicker? Thanks so much!
Concerning sterilized soil, what would you say about sterilizing for indoor garden seed starting (I know your comment was about indoor and potted plants)? I only knew about LAB for fermenting veggies, like peppers.
I was wondering, I seen an holistic prepper making probiotic water by using some probiotics from a capsule. She mixed in water, let it sit and in a few days she had probiotic water. Do you know anything about this and if this water will work the same way as the whey. I eat a little it of the curd that is formed from the process but not enough to use it all and I don’t have any pigs or chickens to feed the curd to.
do i have to start from a rice water scratch every time i want to make more Lactobacillus? and is there a way to make the LAB without cow’s milk? and if i choose to store the LAB in the fridge (so not adding sugar to it), is that liquid still considered active and ready for the soil?
you would need the rice water from scratch yes. And you could use goats milk for example. If you store in the fridge you do need to add the sugar to activate the bacteria and get them going
Teraganix Em-1 has LAB in it. If you cook rice and have milk, you can make your own without having a ton of time. I made my first batch and was delighted that I get to try cheesemaking as a bonus. Thank you Chris Trump.
Omg the rice wash recipe is the recipe for orchata without cimmimon 😂 it's a Mexican rice drink I hate. My kids love it though maybe I'll start making homemade orchata and using it on my plants 😂😂😂😂
@@GardeningInCanada I mean without spoiling the milk of course and separating it. The soaking the rice for days and the fresh milk and sugar. I txt my husband at work and said omg you're going to literally die when you hear this recipe. He could not stop laughing. He said maybe now you'll make orchata. I don't like milk so I am not a fan. But I'm definitely going to make it now.
Omg that's so true.. LAB it's literally horchata for plants but with the fermentation process. I mean if I drink horchata, now I won't feel scare to make LAB for my plants.
If you want to check out how to make your own innoculent check out this post gardeningincanada.net/diy-lactobacillus/
I read the article in the link ,
Real thanks for the insights information
Can you ferment leftover "cooked rice water" in lieu of fermenting "rice water"?!?! I cook my rice in extra water... then strain out the cooked rice and place the remaining liquid into a mason jar to let it ferment. I presume it would have extra starch in it compared to stirring uncooked rice in water. 🤔
who else learning soil science 3 hours past bedtime because of UA-cam recommendations? 🙋🏻♂️
HAHA oh no! I’m not the cause of that 🙄😅
I’m doing research for my garden. Im planning on making this stuff and looking for it’s uses.
I diffiently saw a difference using Lacobacillus on my seedlings this year. No mold on soil. Made mine from milk. Thanks for the rice based recipe.
Great to hear!
I add sourdough starter discards and old yogurt to a bucket in my yard that i feement plant matter in. When i started adding those things, my veggies thanked me by producing more food. It wasnt until a few weeks ago that i realized i was culturing a lot of l.a.b. and feeding it to my soil. Thanks for the video
Love that!
Instead of using the whey left from making my Greek yogourt as liquid in recipes I add it to my compost pile. There is tons of Lactobacillus in it!
That's a great idea!
@@GardeningInCanada Could we just take the whey that separates out in our yogurt and add it to the watering can?
@@JanetUrsel It's a different kind. Yogurt making uses heat. LAB is very easy to make. A little rice water left out to ferment a few days, mixed with milk. Cover with coffee filter and leave it on the counter for a few days. Skim off the curd on top. That's it.
I recently added LAB to our winter compost pile. Mostly brown material that went through the thermophilic cycle for a couple of months. Definitely saw increased temps. But I'm not positive it was the only reason temps shot up.
Will definitely use it in future.
Thanks for the information:)
Cheers from Victoria BC
It almost feels like science class for grown ups! LOL I will have to give this a try for my indoor plants since the outdoor is almost done for the season. :)
HAHA love that
Once I made a small batch (around 500 ml) that remained in the refrigerator for almost a year without being used and ended up in the drainage. It’s alway good to keep lacto B for everything including foliage spray. A video demonstration is a good idea as well.
thats a good idea
Hey! I was wondering about this! Bokashi composting seemed real interesting. Using these bacteria to break down meat, dairy, and eggshells before adding to the compost pile! Ashley, I was also wondering what the short term and long term implications of using chemical fertilizer has on soil life and long term soil health. People talk about "harmful salts" building up in your soil and acidification of the soil. What are these "harmful salts" and why are they bad for your soil? And how much chemical fertilizer could I use before having negative effect on my soil?
I need to do a video on that topic desperately!
Hi Ashley, yes that would be great. I have been looking on this on your channel. Great to hear you are going to do this bokashi topic.
Since bokashi is anaerobic fermentation started from EM1 culture, Eventhough they are facultative anaerobic, does it mean EM1 microbes wont thrive in our aerobic soil?
Is the lactobacillus from your DIY recipe aerobic or facultative anaerobic?
I have a hard time composting. All I have is straw to mix it with. I’ll make some of this to mix with it to, but the straw doesn’t break down very fast. I do live under a bunch of redwoods, but I thought that it was too acidic to use. What do you think?
I would really appreciate a tutorial on how to make the inoculant please.
Okay awesome
YAY! I left the comment asking for this video. THANK YOU. Love hearing from an expert :)
Thanks for leaving it! People truly appreciate it!
A video we all needed! Can't wait till evening to watch!
Woohoo the suspense!
Freshing to hear Lactobacillus rebound itself quickly to replicates itself, even after conventional fertilizer and pesticides. #SaveSoil
Thank you for doing a video on this!
I was reading about the EM-1 "effective microbes" they sell as a soil amendment and for bokashi composting and an interesting experiment was done testing how the brand name EM-1 solution compared to just plain sauerkraut juice in a composting toilet and found there was no notable difference between the two.
So for those into making lacto-fermented sauerkraut, there's your lab solution! I'm definitely going to be trying this method over the rice wash and milk method or maybe both to compare the two. 🤩
This may be something worthwhile doing. My gardens took a big hit this summer. I may need to add a little extra in the Spring.
That's not a bad reclamation idea
For your next project, I suggest lots of people will take benefit of a video showing how to move some of your annuals indoor over the winter.
I moved a chilli pepper and snap dragon last year and this year I am planning to move following tomato verities: San Marzano, Rapunzel, Mule Team and possibly sun gold.
Korean red pepper, Pusa Jawal (Indian red chilli verity) a Chinese long red pepper. One cilantro, a basil, oregano, Thai and sweet basil and finger long egg plant.
Oh and finally I had one okra that I left for seeds to try for next year (baby bubba verity)
Note: this snaps dragon was started with seed taken from my old house where it developed multi coloured flowers with cross pollination. This plant is coming indoor as well.
yea absolutely
@@GardeningInCanadaI’m also interested in this. Want to keep some plants in the basement cuz they won’t survive our zone 2 winter. Don’t have cold storage. Basement is about 17° and im planning to mulch wellso it’s dark. hoping that can keep everyone dormant. How much should I water? Will they get mold?
I just found your channel, wish I had found it sooner. Great content. My plants look so much better. Thank you 😊
I've been making LABS for a few years now and I use it in a variety of different ways, I clean with it as well, also you can actually see it work in real time if you have let's say a dog that has a favorite spot that has a lot of dog oil built up, making up a bit of LABS and it will pretty much melt it off and it comes right up with a towel or cloth, it's amazing stuff
I love your videos keep up the good hard work
I always encourage DIY whenever possible, but there is a pretty awesome LABS product by Teraganix called EM-1. There's also Fermented Plant Extracts, he uses LABS to make all his fermented extracts and he even has a KNF Pro line with all the components needed for the KNF system.
Thanks for the videos. I love using LABS in the garden. This taught me more about its mechanisms and even some benefits I was unaware of.
Yes! EM-1 can be purchased! It's usually a liquid if Im not mistaken?
@@GardeningInCanada Correct! The liquid can also be combined with more water and molasses and fermented further to create more. I think it's an awesome off the shelf LAB serum for people who don't have time to make their own or just want to try it out before making their own.
The Fermented Plant Extracts are a also a liquid product. They take a LAB serum a step further and use it to ferment and break down plant material. Whcih of course this process can also be done at home. A lot of information available on fermented plant extracts comes from anecdotal experiences. Would love to hear more about them from a scientific perspective!
Thanks for the info. There is a product called (generically) EM-1 that is sold in the states. Popular among cannabis growers and found at hydro shops in Northern CA.
Hi, omg, love the feed. Love love love.
Couple questions:
Lactobacillus for arid/xeric plants that have a greater degree of dry out between waterings?
How do lactobacillus and humic acid interact?//any ethical source of humic acid in so called USA?
Curious about how you supplement heat, if you do, when attempting to switch metabolism functions of sansevieria indoors, under lights, and like how do you stave off rot if doing so in winter, indoors?
💖
there’s a product on amazon called plant probiotic from a company called micra•culture. there’s beneficial bacteria and fungi in it. i’ve not bought or used it though so idk much (the reviews look promising) but for $15 a 2oz bag when i have more than 48 plants (it says you should add 1/4th teaspoon per potted plant per month), i think making LAB might be better for me. unless i start choosing favorites 😗 (i’m looking at my hoyas and citrus trees)
I will grab a bag and give it a shot. I want to get a microscope one day for the channel
I love that i find stuff im almost always interested in! Ive been making this since moving to CR. I just made a thingy with 5 tablespoons of this jobes 444 6 tablespoons of brown sugar and filled it with my finished labs mixture. I wonder what its potential is. It was just a 'lets see what happens' experiment lol but it almost all dissolved in a week and made that kinda thick film on top so i cleaned it off and put it the fridge for later. Imma start using a shot glass per 5 liter watering can and water it into my beds. Lets see if i knew what i was doing ☺️ fingers crossed
Ended up fermenting my roots once by adding to much lactobacillus..great as a foliar for powdery mildew
oh jeepers! thats not good
Hi Ashley thank you for another informative video! A few months ago I tried making something similar to this with Fermented Plant Juice a technique used in Korean Natural Farming. Have you tried making one or have read about it? Would love to see a video discussing more about Fermented plant Juice and other DIY fertilizers/inoculants that really work :)
yea absolutely ill put that on the list
Yes! I’d love to learn more about Korean Natural Farming and Jadam!
It’s very informative
Thank you, a ton of info! I wonder how does it react or what relationship does it have with mycorrhizal fungi... Thanks!
It doesn't have a relationship but it thrives in inverse environments. So for example lactobacillus enjoys higher levels of moisture then mycorrhizae does.
You greatly underestimate the amount of time we're willing to dedicate to "Mad Science" 😁😜
LOL 😂 we are the breaking bad group of the gardening world 🔬🥼
@@GardeningInCanada that's awesome 😄🥰
Haha I agree!! 😃 I like experimenting instead of buying products 👍
Hello. I was watching an older video about Rhizobium bacteria. I immediately went out to buy the recommended inoculant from McKenzie, but due to production issues everyone was sold out.
My question is, is there a way to grow your own Rhizobium bacteria?
Thats a good question and i have not done it outside of a lab but i can look into it for you.
could you do a video on how to make amino acids from plant protiens and use it as fertilizer? thanks in advance.
Wow, I knew lactobacillus was a thing, but not how good it was in the soil. Time to start brewing! (and I thought it was only good for humans taking antibiotics!)
its in human and animal systems as well you are not wrong!
Can you show us easy grafting technique please.
The channel Fraser Valley Rose farm has a video on composting with the help of this bacillus.
Please talk someday about bacillus subtillus, I used to be able to get this as a registered Bo-fungicide but Bayer sold the Natria line.
Now it is sold as a fertilizer by Earth Alive and I wonder if it still has fungicide properties?
They claim many things about it but for sure it binds sandy soil to help save water.
i will definitely put that onto the list
@@GardeningInCanada Thank you!
Hello Ashley! Thank you for your video, I was wondering if you had any scientific references that supports the method you describe in your website to make our own innoculent? I would like to use this method for project in uni but I can't find any litterature about this method....
Yes , a video how to do probiotics inoculant yourself
OK great know added to the list
Great videos
Glad you like them!
Kindly make a experiment video on lactic acide uses
I am from lndia.
Lovely explanation ❤ you
Thank you so much 😀
That’s their retailers and distributors page. Canada has one in BC
Nice!
Just awesome..
Thank you so much 😀
Good info, Would love to see the video of the making of LAB, also would yeast fertilizer be considered a probiotic?
yeast feeds the soil microbes i have a video on this actually haha. its the kombucha video
@@GardeningInCanada oh thanks, your video came up in my feed, I will look for your video. Thank you
instructional video pls 😊
on the list
I read the recipe, but this really needs a video
okay sounds good
Hi Thank you for your amazing contents! is it more difficult to culture the microbes in soil-less medium compare to more organic potting mix? I use about 30% coco coir, 10% worm casting and the rest are orchid barks and pearlite and activated charcoal. Would the microbes be able to thrive in a draining mix like this? Thanks 🙏🏻
It can be only because we allowed to dry out so much in between each watering. This is a very common way of dealing with Houseplants and unfortunately is the opposite of what microbes need.
Was wondering if that's the white mycelium looking stuff that was infesting my compost since I used spent grain and kefir and milk in my compost. Also aged forest leaves, apple pomace, maple saw dust, plants, kitchen scraps, spent coffee, beans, oats, etc.
Thank you for this information. I know this is part of the Korean natural farming(knf) and I was wondering what your are your thoughts on knf in Canada? Most of the research I have done is all located in the south. Especially Hawaii. Is it doable in Canada? I have made a few things from it and do believe that it does work
There is a guy in the States using it on his farm. He has a channel here called 'Nature's always right'. I know he has done some stuff on it and was putting all kinds of homemade concoctions on his soil. :)
I can definitely do a video on this.
@@DragonflyenAmber I use knf all the time in Edmonton, comfrey fpj an lab have worked awesome on my bte garden, speeding up the breakdown of wood chips
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
I would be interested in beneficial nematodes vs bad nematodes and the French marigold (toxin?) Does it effect all nematodes? Thanks for the science 😀
thats an awesome video idea
It's funny because you posted this not 20min after I just chucked a spoonful of yogurt into my compost tea as an experiment. I used to brew sour beers and had an expired vile of L bacillus in my fridge. Used that in one of my previous compost teas and it seemed to help.
What are your thoughts on using yogurt as a starter? How about strains of baccillus used in brewing? I know there are some garden companies that sell it, but usually at an outrageous price.
yea yogurt would work! you're just looking to isolate the bacteria thats all.
Your blog says, "mix 2 tablespoons of activated liquid with a gallon of water. You can apply this every time you water."
Would this also apply to something like whey from a batch of yogourt I've made, as it's also rich in lactobacillus, or would the whey attract pests?
i would avoid it only because my concern would be harmful bacteria
Thanks @@GardeningInCanada, you're awesome!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! What are the ideal temperature range to inoculate the soils and how often? Zone 8-9
You could do biweekly or monthly so long as it’s above 5 degrees C
Thank you for your quick response
Anytime!
What else would have lactose in it besides a dairy product that I could use?
I am a new homeowner and overseeded my lawn. What about a video about herbionik low maintenance seed with endophytes and promix seed with mycorhyzal fungi which should help with weeds or insects?
Thats a good video idea. I do have a video on the myco
Does this accelerate decomposting my compost?
Can you just get LAB in pill form (powder capsules) and use for pot plants? Using ricewater and milk is a bit of mucking about.
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Hm, I wonder if there is a particular strain this recipe is targeting, because lactobacillius is also found in other actual food recipes such as sourdoughs, yogurts, kefirs, even sometimes the scoby in komchucha.
there maybe!
Hi what do yoy think about korean natural farming is it a good method of farming/gardening?
Ya! i think its definitely a solution
@@GardeningInCanada i would love to see your take on the farming technique and the science behind it if you decide to make a video on it. Btw love your channel im learning so much!
Can you just use over fermented curd/yogurt for this? In India, we kinda make a fresh batch of yogurt everyday at home.
Yup!
Can I just use the rice water that sit for 1 week? is that the water already with certain amount of lactobacillus? Wondering if I could use that water without diluting/adding less water to dilute it. My family eat rice almost every night and we get quite a lot of rice water, just wondering if I could save the trouble and cost for the later steps of adding milk and sugar.
I would love a video on how to make this 😇
I love to ferment everything - do I have to use caution with using brine from sauerkraut and fermented veggies because there is Himalayan or sea salt in it? Or is a little natural salt okay for the soil? I wonder what the ratios are?
salt in small doses is technically an essential nutrient. I would be comfortable using a diluted brine in an outdoor setting but would avoid it when it comes to indoor/soil less (peat or coir).
Okay so I made a mistake and planted very young brassica seedlings this year into compost I had laid maybe 4 inches thick on my garden. The mistake is that the quality of the compost I used isn't as finished as I would like. It is a woodier compost from the municipality and my seedlings have zero growth since I planted them over four weeks ago. And the youngest leaves turned light grayish purple and yellow which tells me there is a lack of nitrogen accessable to the small roots of my plants. I want to be able to direct sow in my garden this year without scraping the top layer of compost off. Will using LAB regularly help make that possible or do I need to start all over in areas that I want to direct sow? I'm not as concerned about the older plant starts because I believe I can just plant them deeper but my poor carrots, leafy greens and root vegetables are where I get real concerned. Also there is a layer of cardboard under the compost that I used as a weed barrier. Should I poke some holes through it to help the roots get through better?
You could try the lacto and see. Its so hard to say because the age of the compost will ultimately effect how quickly it will work.
👍 yes video pleeese
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Can you make lacto bacillus without milk ?
Stupid question here, can we use yakult?
or Erceflora
Some people use Yakult for EM starter. EM for effective microbes
no reason why you cant
can lactobacillus be used in semi hydroponics? I think this way it could make organic fertilizers bio-avilable, converting the system to bioponics
you could try i am not sure how long they would stay viable is the biggest issue
Ashley is there any reason why you can't add 2 tablespoons of lab to one gallon of comfrey tea
The only issues i can see is if you have poor root development it maybe a shock
I’m a South Asian and we wash then soak the rice, lentils for 15 minutes up to 2 hours. I’ve learnt to use the rice/beans soaked water for plants from my MIL. Your diy recipe asks to toss away the rice. Is there any reason for that? Food wastage is already a common problem in this part of the world. I really like learning from someone like you who studies about that particular subject before sharing to the public. But it’ll be great if you care about other issues like wastage or the environmental impact too. I’ve firsthand seen what happens when people go hungry so it’ll mean a lot. Thank you.
Agree with this! That soaked rice can still be made into congee 🥣
no you could definitely use it. technically washing or soaking your rice is advised. someone was saying there is a Mexican dish that uses the rice and cinnamon
send me the best recipe!
@@GardeningInCanada one cup of rice, half a cup of lentils, throw in a pot with little bit of mixed spices (we use ground turmeric, ground cumin, whole green chillies, one small bay leaf, little cinnamon and 2 cardamom). Add 3 cups of boiling hot water. We traditionally don’t use rice cooker so cook in medium heat without lid until most of the water evaporates then put lid on and keep on low until the rice is done. Good on its own or with any fried veggies or eggs. It’s a Bangladeshi recipe called Khichuri which we usually make during rainy season ❤️
@@GardeningInCanada Horchata, make it all the time.
So two years later..... you were saying it would be so nice to buy a probiotic for soil in this video. Recently you had a video about Bokashi compost and bokashi bran. Would this be what you would now consider a soil probiotic? (PS your website is down)
Hi Ashley! My commercially purchased bokashi accelerator spray is made of Lactobacillus (along with yeast and sugar cane molasses), could I potentially just dilute this in water instead of making my own lactobacillus brew? A recipe for Lactobacillus serum by Landtasia Organic Farms is pretty similar to the process you describe in your blog and they suggest this serum be used for both the garden AND the bokashi/other compost bins, which is why I am wondering whether my commercially purchased one would also be interchangeable for these purposes.
On that note, like you mentioned in your bokashi video, would this lactobacillus treatment mean the peat moss in my indoor potting mixes will decompose quicker?
Thanks so much!
Concerning sterilized soil, what would you say about sterilizing for indoor garden seed starting (I know your comment was about indoor and potted plants)?
I only knew about LAB for fermenting veggies, like peppers.
Have you used dr marijane root probiotic
I have not yet!
can LAB also eat beneficial microbes and fungi ???
I wouldn't worry about that too much its about balance
Can this be used for human consumption?
I wouldnt
How long does it last. How do I store it
it can store for a year in the fridge :)
I was wondering, I seen an holistic prepper making probiotic water by using some probiotics from a capsule. She mixed in water, let it sit and in a few days she had probiotic water. Do you know anything about this and if this water will work the same way as the whey. I eat a little it of the curd that is formed from the process but not enough to use it all and I don’t have any pigs or chickens to feed the curd to.
interesting! i have never heard of this
do i have to start from a rice water scratch every time i want to make more Lactobacillus? and is there a way to make the LAB without cow’s milk? and if i choose to store the LAB in the fridge (so not adding sugar to it), is that liquid still considered active and ready for the soil?
you would need the rice water from scratch yes. And you could use goats milk for example. If you store in the fridge you do need to add the sugar to activate the bacteria and get them going
Can we mix this LAB bacteria liquid into Tap water? Or must the tap water be dechlorinated?
Iowa Zone 5a. Will lactobacillus in the compost pile accelerate decomposition?
Lactobacilus is actually anaerobic instead of aerobic bacteria. It grows better in lack of oxygen
Can i use it on carnivorous plant soil?
I thought lactobacilus was a facultative anerobe?
What did I end up saying? 😬
Can you use human probiotic for plants
Would lactobacillus probiotic supplements used by humans potentially work for the soil? :)
So they would work as a way of capturing the bacteria. but you would still need to activate them by using the sugar and dissolving the product
So, can I use brine from fermented sauce in my garden?
is it high in salt?
@@GardeningInCanada It was 3% brine before I poured it into jar with vegetables.
Teraganix Em-1 has LAB in it. If you cook rice and have milk, you can make your own without having a ton of time. I made my first batch and was delighted that I get to try cheesemaking as a bonus. Thank you Chris Trump.
Also, thank you Ashley for the great description of the happenings in the soil. I love this channel.
Omg the rice wash recipe is the recipe for orchata without cimmimon 😂 it's a Mexican rice drink I hate. My kids love it though maybe I'll start making homemade orchata and using it on my plants 😂😂😂😂
Are you serious?! That’s hilarious
@@GardeningInCanada I mean without spoiling the milk of course and separating it. The soaking the rice for days and the fresh milk and sugar. I txt my husband at work and said omg you're going to literally die when you hear this recipe. He could not stop laughing. He said maybe now you'll make orchata. I don't like milk so I am not a fan. But I'm definitely going to make it now.
Omg that's so true.. LAB it's literally horchata for plants but with the fermentation process. I mean if I drink horchata, now I won't feel scare to make LAB for my plants.
Yah whey
It’s a probiotic for soil
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Bugger, ring on the finger…..
Is labs good for fixing nutrient lockout
For cannabis is labs better doing veg or flower stage