I've noticed the different styles generally.. I guess it is what you are used to and what works for you. Perhaps some of us like to get more feedback from tension wrench or something. I guess Bill is usually trying to keep the tension low so only one pin at a time would bind. I prefer heavier tension myself. Perhaps it is just that it seems to give somehow more feedback to me like heavier picks that I prefer always as well. Very light tension needs more delicate tough and you seem to feel less through the pick.
Yeah thats probably true. I really enjoy getting feedback so I often tension on the heavier side. Or rather as heavy as I can while still being effective. I also honed and continue to hone my skill watching and breaking down LPL's style so that maybe why I prefer higher tension. Or as I've heard LPL say "Gorilla Tension", Or you could refer to it as "Harambe Technique".
Thanks... it actually gave me quite a bit to think about. We need more than one style in our repertoire, because not all locks will respond to a given style.
When I saw the paw on the lock I recognized it immediately. Maybe because I'm watching this a bit sideways in bed those scratches look like the letters "DR" or it could just be a couple of mountains. It was nice to watch a longer video after all those short gun locks (great series BTW). Well, I'm off to re-watch Bill picking this lock.
I never gave any thought about basically making your own lock pins this is crazy ..but definitely goes to show what kind of skill really can go into a lock or lock picking !! That's amazing!.. I'm just getting into lock sport my set should come in tomorrow but wow ..I mean I thought was each could be like a puzzle but by looking at this I'd say it's one hell of a puzzle for a beginner!! Crazy to see how a professional handles it so easy
That was very nice to watch and a cool challenge lock :). Like your controlled picking very much :D. And you're absolutely right, at the end of the day it only counts that it is open and that you had some fun on the way there ;).
I'm shure glad you use your videos for lock picking and not opening packages and talking about how nice it is for everybody sending you things. Good pick.
I find the Stanley Locks as one of the coolest looking locks out there. Tobad they are so hard to find in the USA. I think they quit making them. I have few but would love to get more. Their quality is wonderful.
I'm new to lock picking and your videos have urged me to start. I see you mention Sparrow a lot so I searched them up, and found a kit called the Kick Start. I As I have mentioned, I'm new and I don't to spend lots of money. I'm this is sort of a broken record but, in your opinion is this a good start. Or an alternative such as Kit + Seperate Pick. I live in the US and I would like to do the recreationally. These videos, although almost irrelevant to me, are interesting and very satisfying. Thank you for making great content!
Also as a video idea, maybe in the future you can talk about how you got into it, your experiences, and explain to novist people like me deeper in depth how these fancy 'spools and security pins' work. This is just an idea for you. Hope you take this idea!
Thanks for watching and glad to hear that you are getting into picking. It's fun and rewarding. As for a beginner set, you can't go wrong with sparrows. I recommend checking out BosnianBill's website. He has some really good advice for beginners and good tips for picking security pins.
Nice video LPL. After you said that Bill had picked it and you gave the video number I went back and had a comparison to see if the different tensions and pickers produced much difference in picking time. There was about 5s difference so it was negligible.
Thanks... as for the time, you make a fair point, but that said, I wouldn't pay much attention to time. Neither Bill nor I were picking for speed. The only videos on my channel in which I've tried to go as fast as I can are the time trial videos -- numbers 354, 360, and 369.
LockPickingLawyer maybe i am alone on this, but I would greatly appreciate a suggestion video, showing locks that are their money worth. thank you for the great content anyway!!
I feel like it’s been done before and didn’t work and that’s why you never see it but I’d like to see a double spool that has a point to the tip. Just to see if it would function in a lock clearly it would only be for pick prevention and would almost certainly wear down to fast to key into. But it would be neat.
They do made a shrouded version of this... and the shackle is a Moly alloy... interestingly, boron was used as a cheap replacement for molybdenum during WWII shortages, and that's how it came to be in common usage... at least that's what I read. I see no need to use a boron in the shackle.
There is definitely a correct way to pick a lock. The correct way is the way that leaves the least amount of evidence of the activity in the least amount of time and at the lowest amount of noise. Everything else is just playing with locks for fun and education.
i have an idea for an improved pin tumbler lock concept that might interest you, i would like to get your perspective on it. it would be bump resistant and nearly unrakeable as well. it would be would be effectively unpickable in field conditions to someone who didnt know what they were up against and it can be varied to where even if someone is familiar with the concept would still have a hard time picking any random example of it cold.
I'm always happy to see something new. My email is in the about tab. NOTE - I generally dislike the security by obscurity. A locking concept should be effective against someone who already knows whats inside, otherwise it will never be commercially viable.
LockPickingLawyer right. this isnt that. well its not JUST that. everything is obscure when its new. someone will eventually figure out a way to defeat the bowley. this uses actual mechanical elements to increase the difficulty to spp it. the same elements reduce the rakeability and bumpability to nearly 0. i will email you though.
question for you! i see all these "picked" videos on your channel. so from the person who knows the most about locks and their security features, what is the best lock (budget, i'm not trying to buy a 100+ dollar lock) you would recommend?
"If the lock opens, you're doing something right" Well obviously...The lock wouldn't open id you were doing something wrong, who the hell said there is a right and wrong way of picking?
Curious how you call that "torpedo shaped" Pin, when standard pins are much closer to the shape of actual torpedos. If you want to use a weapons analogy, then I'd recommend "bomb shaped".
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Slightly bent? Boy, that's nearly a 90 degree turn lol
You can clearly tell it's not 90 degrees
@@FinalConsensus you can clearly read he said nearly 90 degrees.
70*
@@iamchuchu9467 Rude but fair
@@FinalConsensus dumb but ok
You and bill should make each other challenge locks. That would be fun to see!
i just stumbled on this channel the other day and i'm addicted. great vids!
Great to hear. Welcome to the channel and thanks for watching.
Never seen a video with 18k veiws and only has one dislike lmao
I very much enjoyed the comparative analysis of your picking style versus Bills. I find individual pick styles rather interesting.
I've noticed the different styles generally.. I guess it is what you are used to and what works for you. Perhaps some of us like to get more feedback from tension wrench or something. I guess Bill is usually trying to keep the tension low so only one pin at a time would bind.
I prefer heavier tension myself. Perhaps it is just that it seems to give somehow more feedback to me like heavier picks that I prefer always as well. Very light tension needs more delicate tough and you seem to feel less through the pick.
Yeah thats probably true. I really enjoy getting feedback so I often tension on the heavier side. Or rather as heavy as I can while still being effective. I also honed and continue to hone my skill watching and breaking down LPL's style so that maybe why I prefer higher tension. Or as I've heard LPL say "Gorilla Tension", Or you could refer to it as "Harambe Technique".
Thanks... it actually gave me quite a bit to think about. We need more than one style in our repertoire, because not all locks will respond to a given style.
You and Bosnianbill both have the heart of a teacher.
I'll take that as high praise. Thank you.
Picked my first padlock with spool pins and serrated bottom pins, super excited ! Thanks for all your advice
Congrats -- You're on your way!
Serious respect for your craft and analysis here. You have quite a bit of deep knowledge you're making clear by simply walking us through the process.
Thanks... I hope it's helpful.
When I saw the paw on the lock I recognized it immediately. Maybe because I'm watching this a bit sideways in bed those scratches look like the letters "DR" or it could just be a couple of mountains. It was nice to watch a longer video after all those short gun locks (great series BTW). Well, I'm off to re-watch Bill picking this lock.
The scratches probably look like DR because they're a stylized DMR, aka my signature. ;)
Could be... but I still don't know DR. :-(
I'm probably just missing a joke, but in case I'm not...
I made the lock and scratched DMR in the side because it's my initials. :3
I never gave any thought about basically making your own lock pins this is crazy ..but definitely goes to show what kind of skill really can go into a lock or lock picking !! That's amazing!.. I'm just getting into lock sport my set should come in tomorrow but wow ..I mean I thought was each could be like a puzzle but by looking at this I'd say it's one hell of a puzzle for a beginner!! Crazy to see how a professional handles it so easy
Great job picking. :) Always fun to see a different method.
Thanks.
That was very nice to watch and a cool challenge lock :). Like your controlled picking very much :D. And you're absolutely right, at the end of the day it only counts that it is open and that you had some fun on the way there ;).
Thank you.
I'm shure glad you use your videos for lock picking and not opening packages and talking about how nice it is for everybody sending you things.
Good pick.
Thanks... glad you like.
The wrench is only slightly bent 😂
nice picking on that lock especially after looking at the gutting with double springs and modified pins...
Thanks. as for the double springs... heavy tension pretty effectively neutralizes them.
amazing how a bit of extra tension makes all the difference , nice variation on the pins and springs
I find the Stanley Locks as one of the coolest looking locks out there. Tobad they are so hard to find in the USA. I think they quit making them. I have few but would love to get more. Their quality is wonderful.
I'm new to lock picking and your videos have urged me to start. I see you mention Sparrow a lot so I searched them up, and found a kit called the Kick Start. I As I have mentioned, I'm new and I don't to spend lots of money. I'm this is sort of a broken record but, in your opinion is this a good start. Or an alternative such as Kit + Seperate Pick. I live in the US and I would like to do the recreationally. These videos, although almost irrelevant to me, are interesting and very satisfying. Thank you for making great content!
Also as a video idea, maybe in the future you can talk about how you got into it, your experiences, and explain to novist people like me deeper in depth how these fancy 'spools and security pins' work. This is just an idea for you. Hope you take this idea!
Thanks for watching and glad to hear that you are getting into picking. It's fun and rewarding. As for a beginner set, you can't go wrong with sparrows. I recommend checking out BosnianBill's website. He has some really good advice for beginners and good tips for picking security pins.
LockPickingLawyer thank you!
you are very good sir.I believe abloy protect is one of the few that would stop you......great work
I'm quite sure it would! Thanks.
I noticed he took out the "bypass" guard in the back.
He could've just bypassed it.
Nice pick. I do like your attribution to another UA-cam picker; it definitely broadens the community.
Thanks.
Nice video LPL. After you said that Bill had picked it and you gave the video number I went back and had a comparison to see if the different tensions and pickers produced much difference in picking time. There was about 5s difference so it was negligible.
Thanks... as for the time, you make a fair point, but that said, I wouldn't pay much attention to time. Neither Bill nor I were picking for speed. The only videos on my channel in which I've tried to go as fast as I can are the time trial videos -- numbers 354, 360, and 369.
yeah, but who won? ;)
I heard you say something that I either never knew or forgot, anyway thanks for your channel, Bill’s too.
The scratches look like "DR".
Bosnianbill makes it all look too easy. Kept me awake some nights wondering why it's so easy for him, yet so difficult for me. Regards!
He does... I suspect that ease represents the confluence of natural ability, experience, and absurd amounts of practice.
@@lockpickinglawyer How ironic, coming from the guy who doesn't take snacks to the movie, but rather locks to pick.
is there any lock you can't pick? have to secure you know ... my family lol
The best locks in the world only keep honest people out.
Many, many locks that I can't pick. Too many to even begin naming tham all!
LockPickingLawyer maybe i am alone on this, but I would greatly appreciate a suggestion video, showing locks that are their money worth. thank you for the great content anyway!!
@@1222-b1y I concur.
Assa cores are very good but they will also cost you about $100 for the core. They are high security very pick resistant and drill attack resistant.
You have to be a pretty good picker to steal Hermit's potatoes.
LOL... true.
That was some great picking once again.
Thanks.
Great job picking brother and thanks for sharing it with us
I feel like it’s been done before and didn’t work and that’s why you never see it but I’d like to see a double spool that has a point to the tip. Just to see if it would function in a lock clearly it would only be for pick prevention and would almost certainly wear down to fast to key into. But it would be neat.
Still waiting to see you reassemble a gutted lock 😁
D R. probably a label that it's got a drunken spool
This dude is the best of the best
You forget a thousand things everyday...
Probably.
If you're interested in getting a third take on this lock, send it (and any other goodies :P) my way!
Hit me up sometime in a few weeks... I'm way behind on getting locks out. Need to concentrate on current obligations.
HELLO L.P.L.NICELY EXPLAINED. ONE HECK OF OF LOCK .GREAT PINS. THANKS FOR SHOWING .😎
Thanks
Great lock, i would add a shroud to this and change the shackle to a boron shackle.
They do made a shrouded version of this... and the shackle is a Moly alloy... interestingly, boron was used as a cheap replacement for molybdenum during WWII shortages, and that's how it came to be in common usage... at least that's what I read. I see no need to use a boron in the shackle.
That sounds interesting. I just presumed the shackle was hardend steel as alot of the time padlocks use them. Moly alloy sounds cool.
very nice picking buddy and cool padlock😎😎😎😊👍
Thanks.
#5 is the stanley cup!
I think #5 is a chess queen driver pin. I saw some chess pins being sold in one of the sites Bosnian Bill recommends for locksport shoppers.
Look for LPL 402
I think he knows it.
This is The Lock Picking Lawyer and today we're going to open the vault at Fort Knox, click outa 1.............😅
Thanks
almost took you longer to get the spring out than it took to pic it.
LOL, true... that spring was putting up a fight!
Man, you are a fast picker!
Thanks.
Nice work as usual but would that schlage kik come with that Stanley!
Yes. They come with the lock from Stanley. I've featured every lock from this lineup in unmodified form on my channel in the past.
You haven´t done the 60mm laminated version.
But it´s just the same as all the others.
some good vids
Thank you.
That is mean :
No locker is safe
There is definitely a correct way to pick a lock. The correct way is the way that leaves the least amount of evidence of the activity in the least amount of time and at the lowest amount of noise. Everything else is just playing with locks for fun and education.
i have an idea for an improved pin tumbler lock concept that might interest you, i would like to get your perspective on it. it would be bump resistant and nearly unrakeable as well. it would be would be effectively unpickable in field conditions to someone who didnt know what they were up against and it can be varied to where even if someone is familiar with the concept would still have a hard time picking any random example of it cold.
I'm always happy to see something new. My email is in the about tab. NOTE - I generally dislike the security by obscurity. A locking concept should be effective against someone who already knows whats inside, otherwise it will never be commercially viable.
LockPickingLawyer right. this isnt that. well its not JUST that. everything is obscure when its new. someone will eventually figure out a way to defeat the bowley. this uses actual mechanical elements to increase the difficulty to spp it. the same elements reduce the rakeability and bumpability to nearly 0. i will email you though.
Nice!!
question for you! i see all these "picked" videos on your channel. so from the person who knows the most about locks and their security features, what is the best lock (budget, i'm not trying to buy a 100+ dollar lock) you would recommend?
The American 700 is a good security value IMO.
I know it has been four years, but the scratches spell "D R"
DR. doctored schleg lock
Watching this while shitting.
Great pick! I know what the scratches are... They were in the shape of a pyramid with an eye! Illuminati confirmed! ;-)
Damn -- the Illuminati are everywhere!!!
I'm reminded of a dentist
seria muito bom se todos os cadeados no brasil fossem desmontaveis assim
"If the lock opens, you're doing something right" Well obviously...The lock wouldn't open id you were doing something wrong, who the hell said there is a right and wrong way of picking?
It's been a few years. Found what those scratches mean?
God Ild give anything to be 1/100th as good as lpl at picking
I have this same exact lock. I fitted mine with the Schlage Everest 29 KIK cylinder.
Did Bill give you the singular thumbs down? 🤣🤣🤣
What are the key cut number of the key LPL?
559649
Curious how you call that "torpedo shaped" Pin, when standard pins are much closer to the shape of actual torpedos. If you want to use a weapons analogy, then I'd recommend "bomb shaped".
Thumbs up for me because I'm First!
Why would view number denote likes?
firstresponse.com
That's funny, I don't care who ya are!