When Travolta Auditioned to Play Fonzie.
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Can you imagine John Travolta as not only the Fonz, but a blonde Fonzie? Find out in this episode how it could have happened!
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Henry Winkler doesn't play the Fonz. The Fonz plays Henry Winkler.
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@@Mortthemoose And they both play the fool. And maybe the piano as well, who knows.
It took me a minute
I can't imagine the Fonz played by Travolta Henry Winkler added a lot of traits off his character to play Fonzie.
all I got to say about Travolta as the Fonz... is... "Naaaayyyy!"
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He could be his little brother Call Him Lil Fonz!!
It was initially called "Love and the Television Set," on Love, American Style, and its original title was: "New Family in Town."
"Yo, I got chills, they're multiplyin'. And the Fonz hates multiplication, whoa."
Ooh I loved Adam 12, and Mickey Dolenz. god I'm old😅. tiger beat magazine covers. When did they die? Thanks for the walk down memory lane. 😊
Now I know another piece of Monkees trivia. Another: Stephen Stills auditioned for the Monkees, was rejected for bad teeth and thinning hair (TV show, you know), and recommended Peter Tork.
Henry's version was cartoonish. John's would've been too. But, Henry's version worked very well in that show.. Someone like William Ostrander who played Buddy Repperton in the movie Christine is close to what the Fonz was supposed to be. Of course, Buddy was a complete creep who was a bully (among many other morally deplorable things). Imagine Ostrander playing the role minus the horrible character flaws with a "big brother" approach. That was the character as written. However, Henry was perfect for what the show was. Lenny and Squiggy are also highly exaggerated characters that worked well in that "Marshall" style of sitcom. Surprisingly, Michael McKeon went on to play a brilliant reality based dramatic character (Chuck McGill) in better call Saul. Michael's acting was so good it raised the bar up to a level that the shows star (Bob Odenkirk) couldn't quite live up to.
Most of the cast of Happy Days aren't very tall. Ron is only 5'9 while John is 6'2.. They felt it wouldn't be right.. Winkler is 5'6 and fit right in.
Travolta may have been able to pull it off but remember how he reacted to his fame from Welcome Back Kotter. He got a big head and left the show almost immediately. They have been no shark jump because Travolta would have left the show.
Two great Fonzies, no doubt. Henry did a terrific job, and John would've done the same. A really good show none the less.
Also, wasn’t Micky Dolenz in his 30s at that time? (1974) These are supposed to be high school kids. I know Fonzie character was somebody that dropped out of high school, and he was 28 or 29 when he was cast. But Micky Dolenz was definitely way too old to play that part at that time.
Yeah, he was 29 when the show first aired. So was Olivia Newton John when she did Grease!
@@TonyBoyOhBoy yeah but Olivia Newton-John was pretty much an unknown then and no one knew her name. (Nor her age) But everyone knew Micky Dolenz from the Monkees, that was several years earlier earlier. So they know he was definitely in his late 20s by then.
Both movies and TV have a long tradition of casting 30 year olds as high school students.
@@willshad I’ve seen many movies and TV shows, cast people in their 20s year has high school students. But I’ve never seen in their 30s, as a high school student (that’s supposed to be 18 years or younger) Can you give me any examples?
The best choice was the Fonz Mr . Henry Winkler
I love Travolta, but he is way too Hammy to play Fonzie.
Travolta is Italian and should have played Arthur Fonzarelli. Talk about cultural appropriation.
Blonde hair? With the character’s name being Arthur Fonzerelli (who I presume was supposed to be an Italian-American greaser? Why would they want that character to have blonde hair?
I know. The people in Hollywood are insane sometimes.
Have you never heard of northern Italy?
HENRY will never know how many nerds like me looked up to him,he was true super hero
Only during the first 2 seasons before they made him into some superhero.
@@wacobob56dad In the beginning of season 1 he didn't even wear the leather jacket. He was this mellow low-key biker dude passing along pearls of wisdom to Richie. He was kind of the Yoda of the show in the early days.
Surprised Dolenz didn't get more roles. He was a talent that would only get much better with increased acting variety. If nothing else, he needed a better agent.
Metal Micky :)
What does Fonzie feed his horse? Haaaaaaay
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Hey Fonzie.....let's hear you sing your ABCs. "Aaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy."
No thanks I just had a bail of straw
What does Fonzie do with his horse? Sit on it!
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Henry Winkler was a cast member of The Lords Of Flatbush, a film about a 1950's greaser gang. That really showed how perfect Winkler could pull off the Fonzie character.
Winkler says he based his Fonzie portrayal on Stallone's Stan character in The Lords Of Flatbush. I saw The Lords Of Flatbush at a drive-in in 1974. It's a really good movie. Winkler's Butchie Weinstein character was more of a joker, but you can definitely see that he had the right look for Fonzie. He was a better fit for Fonzie than Mickey Dolenz, who was the first choice, would have been.
that was a good movie and Sylvester Stallone was also in that movie as one of the gang members!!!
@@kencoakley3959 So true! I'm a Mickey Dolenz fan but that would have been some casting shenanigans. Winkler had the whole Sicilian machismo thing down pat that created the Fonzie cool factor. I was a 4th or 5th grader at the time and I had a Fonzie leather jacket with a lining covered in Fonzie's thumbs-up gesture. My mom threw it out!
Oh yeah! I remember seeing ads for it on TV. It had a really catchy song "The Lords of Flatbush is a movie....(Doe-Doe-DEE-D0E), about how life was in the 50s(Doe-Dee-Doe-Doe. We don't mean to boast, but you will dig it the most (Do-wop style of course! It also starred a young Sylvester Stallone.
@@toddholmes4480 lol. I remember the ending chorus of that jingle "The Lord's of Flatbush..Flatbush..Flatbuuuuuush..."
John Travolta would have been good, too, but I can't imagine that now that Henry Winkler played him. John was great as Vinnie Barbarinno and Danny Zucko in Grease. ♥️♥️ Henry is an amazing actor! He made Fonzie! 👍👍
Yeah, it really worked out the way things went for everybody involved although it must have been disappointing for Travolta to have lost that part.
Absolutely Tracie. I also think he was avoiding typecasting. I think before Happy Days, he was in Lords of Flatbush with Sly Stallone, which was a Fonzie-look role.
Henry also helped Sly get Rocky made. It's too bad Sly doesn't own the rights to the Rocky franchise.
Travolta would have learned to ride the motorcycle. Not trailered like winkler.
I like Henry Winkler, but he would have been awful as Danny Zuko.
He was Fonzie
Micky Dolenz would have been wayyyyyyyy too silly as "Fonz".
That wouldve been interesting. I loved John Travolta as Vinnie Barbarino!
Me too!
Nah. He’d have left early and it wouldn’t be the classic it is.
@@Chalwa It still would have been interesting.
Sure, those of us who are kids of the '70s loved WBK. But try watching it now. It is literally unwatchable, but so are most shows from the '70s and '80s.
Micky Dolenz as the Fonz, I can’t picture it
Believe it or not he did try out for the part! I couldn’t picture it either. He was kind of wimpy on The Monkees!
Only for the monkees he could have been a has been Gerry Mathers Jay North to name a few
I never could either, until I saw him in that Adam-12 episode. Then I saw how it could have played out.
Same with Travolta as Forrest Gump.
I can he was actually a decent actor. He played as a child circus boy, was on Peyton Place & several other tv shows. But IMHO Henry Winkler, Dolenz or Travolta could never pull off a real tough guy biker. Wrinkler was maybe 5'5" tall with a wimpy body type. At least Travolta 6'2" & Dolenz 6' were taller. Hard to say who would have been a good fit that could look tough & have a comedic quality also back then. Thinking Keanu Reeves would have been perfect but he was way to young when the series was made. Maybe a Sam Elliot would have been interesting if he could pull off the comedic part. But could diffanatly pulled off the tough guy & biker part.
I literally did not know that. Thanks for this information. Hard to believe happy days made its debut 50 years ago.
I know, time flies the older you get!
it's weird because Winkler was the best for the role as the Fonz, but he wouldn't have fit as Danny Zuko on Grease, Likewise, Travolta wouldn't have fit as the Fonz, but fit as Zuko in Grease.
Looking back, all these years later, I totally could not imagine anyone else playing the part except Henry Winkler👍
That’s cause you been conditioned to accept winkler.
Me either! He is Fonzy to me. Always will be :)
i could see John Travolta playing the Fonz. It'd be his own, and he'd probably be a hybrid between Danny Zuko and Tony Manero.
I use to love Love American Style !!!!
Me too, back in the day!
I remember the episode they mentioned here.
Great show on Friday night!!!!!
Sorry, I used to hate Love American Style, because I was much to young to understand it, so it was a boring talking show to me... I remember quickly changing the channel whenever it came on.
I love the theme song.
Mickey Dolenz, was too tall for Happy Days? Using that logic, he’s way too tall be standing next to Davy Jones.
to be fair anyone was way too tall to be standing next to Davy Jones.
@@elreyabeja4539 Back then, society wasn't obsessed with the idea that a tall man=better as it is nowadays. Davey Jones and Henry Winkler and Michael J Fox were all short and seen as sex symbols. Nowadays they'd be laughed at.
After seeing Henry Winkler I can't imagine anyone playing the Fonz!
I hear you there. I liked Winkler as Fonzie. But if there ever was someone else to play Fonzie, I think Sylvester Stallone could of pulled it off. Obviously Stallone would of been more believable being a bigger guy as well as italian. I always thought Fonzarelli sounded italian. But Winkler did pretty good as the Fonz.
Agreed. The show was MASSIVE worldwide and I can't imagine it could have been bigger or as big with any other actor.
Coincidentally H. Winkler played an unrelated street thug in a movie with S. Stallone. The Lord's Of Flatbush.
I always found that interesting. Winkler has said he patterned Fonzi on Stallone's voice and character in the film.
Butchie
Indeed! And the Slyer looked PEC-tacular!!
Perry King was one of the Lords as well.
The worlds just not the same if John Travolta plays Fonzie and Fonzie plays Danny in Grease. Great video!!
I agree!
That was the original way it went before the Mandela Effect. LOL!
Can you ride a motorbike? "Hell no. I'm scared shitless of bikes" Great, you got the part.
It's called "acting"
The original episode of Love, American Style was titled Love and the Television Set. It was renamed Love and the Happy Days once it went into syndication. I just found this out yesterday!
Mickey Dolenz too tall for Happy Days, there is another thing that I did not know.
If he was too tall for Happy Days? Using that logic, he’s way too tall be standing next to Davy Jones.
@@MikeCee7 I think it worked because davy was supposed to be a cute, lovable little munchkin.
@@LuckyFlesh ha ha
bob ross would have been the best fonz
Lol!
Not buying the "Mickey Dolenz was too tall for the Fonz" argument. Ron Howard, Anson Williams, and Donny Most were all listed at between 5-9 and 5-10. Winker is about 5-6 to 5-7. Seems like having a taller Fonz would have been better than having a shorter Fonz, considering the Fonz was supposed to be a tough guy.
Back then, being tall wasn't seen as a good thing for a man, or something that made him superior, at least not to the extent that it is nowadays. People had no problem accepting 'short' guys as tough guys or sex symbols. Davey Jones, Henry Winlker, Michael J fox, Tom Cruise, all seen as sex symbols and leading men; something that wouldn't happen in today's height obsessed culture.
Travolta didn't have the force to back up the Fonzi's cool that Winkler did.
In 1974, a movie came out called The Lords of Flatbush, about a group of biker friends in a neighborhood of NYC. Both Winkler and some guy named Stallone were in it. Shortly after that, Happy Days began.
Further, once Winkler became a star, he had the connections to put a little screenplay that Stallone had written before some producers. Something called, what was it? Oh yes - ROCKY. IIRC, one of the networks became interested but insisted on casting the character of Rocky with an established star. Stallone insisted that he pay the role himself, said no and found a different way to finance it. Big pet peeve - when people refer to Rocky as Rocky One.
Winkler was hilarious in The Dinner Party on Broadway. He couldn't move or speak without making me laugh. At dinner, before the show, a couple sat at the table next to me. They were in a rush and I overheard them oohing when me steak arrived. I was ready with a little slice for them, and they were surprised and chatted with me. They were Gary Sinese's parents Bob and Millie from Idaho, just landed from a flight to see him in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest across the street.
Great story, thanks for sharing it!
What year was this that this happenned. I studied ONe Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in HIght School in the 1970's. My English Teacher who really loved the book thought the Movie was OK, but he thought the Play was really great. He really liked William Devane (the Non-Nazi Villain in Marathon Movie and he did a lot of other Movies and TV Series as well) when he played RPM
What was the Dinner Party about? I am not familiar with that play
Any point to the name dropping given the context.
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Why do you care?! They’re telling their story about that night, if you don’t like it, downvote it and move along.
Travolta definitely had the looks to play Fonzie, and in the real world a tough guy greaser that has everyone scared like Fonzie would likely have been tall like Travolta. I also think Travolta could have grown into playing a controlled and smooth cool guy instead of the goofball cool guy he was known as later. Henry Winkler had some real acting chops though, I believe he studied at Yale, and despite being short, he exuded that small street punk cool guy confidence and charm. It was the way Winkler carried himself as Fonzie that sold it. I do think Travolta could have worked, but he would have been the same age as the younger cast, and you needed someone older than the others like Winkler to play "big brother".
Great post. I agree with everything you said. Winkler wasn't anything like "The Fonz" in real life, so his transformation is a testament to his acting skills. And I think Travolta could have done the role, but Winkler was perfect, especially like you mentioned it was better that he was a little older.
So John Trovota wanted to be Fonzie? Hmm.
Henry wrinkler was the Best fonz ever he did a great job
Gary Marshal wanted actors to put their own personal ad libs to their roles. Winkler in front of the mirror and Robin sitting upside down for example.
Henry,Winkler was the Fonz
Very interesting video. And here's a little remembered fact.
The Love American Style episode was originally titled "Love and the New TV." Only in reruns, with the success of Happy Days, was it renamed "Love and the Happy Days."
Well liking girls would have been a prerequisite for being the Fonz. 😂 So no John wouldn't work.
In his new autobiography, Henry Winkler explains that he mostly turned down the role of Danny in the movie “Grease” because he didn’t want to be further typecast as a 1950s greaser.
I hated Welcome Back Kotter. It was like all the bad kids were being celebrated. The bad kids in my school sucked!
Mr Travolta would of made a good Fonzie.
Yes but he wouldn’t play in Grease
Regardless of who could of been ….Happy Days was a great show ….like 99 % of the TV shows …they wouldn’t of have worked so well with a different cast ….same as Gillian’s Island …..Hogans Heroes….Miami Vice….The Musters ….etc …..still great info ….so much I didn’t know ….❤
Did you know Henry Wrinkler's "The Fonz" didn't know how to ride a motorcycle? He tried it one time on set and wrecked the bike and the set then he never tried to ride again. All the scenes of him on a motorcycle is either sitting on it as if he just pulled in somewhere or when you did see him riding it... it was actually tied to a cable and pulled by a car to shoot the scene.
That doesn’t make sense, that a motorcycle being pulled by a car with a cable. If that’s the case, you still need to know how to balance & ride a motorcycle. Unless a motorcycle had training wheels.
@@MikeCee7 I don't know but that's what Henry Winkler said during an interview. I was thinking the same thing
@@warbaby1975 after watching this video, right underneath it was another video about about the Fonz, and the bike scenes. and it shows (I don’t know if it’s all the bike scenes) that Henry Winkler was on a bike. A lot of them is a stunt double, but there’s definitely scenes where he’s riding by himself (not going fast of course) The very first segment in that video, Fonzie is riding the bike out of the driveway onto the street. I can’t put the link Here because some YT creators, don’t let you put a link to another video inside their videos.
He said he crashed the set once and something about riding it on a hill once, he was afraid because he is dyslexic and couldn't coordinate gas, shifting and clutch.
Travolta was a right cheesey Gimp, no way for the Fonzie character
There's only one person that could play the Fonz and that's Henry Winkler the one and only to be the Fonz love Anthony Fed ex lol
John Travolta would have been miserable if he was stuck in that role. He probably doesn't get Saturday Night Fever or Pulp Fiction. Those two roles made his career.
Sure he could've still gotten those roles. They just said in the video that Winkler was the first choice for Zuko in Grease, which came out just one year after Saturday Night Fever, so he wasn't stuck in that role.
Yeah, because Henry Winkler got so many big roles in mainstream Hollywood films.
Also, I didn't mention the role that you cited.
@@Daniel-sh3os Who cares if you didn't mention it, the film was huge, and had he taken the role you had better believe the offers for many more big roles would've come rolling in. And Henry had a wide range of acting talent, he was hilarious in, Arrested Development, he could've easily handled Travolta's role in, Pulp Fiction.
@@Cosmo-Kramer Duh. I didn't mention because it is a role similar to Fonzie. Also, he couldn't take the role because he can't sing.
@@Cosmo-Kramer You are comparing another tv show that was filmed almost a quarter of a century after Happy Days to a big Hollywood film? You don't get it. He would of never been offered the role, so we will never know how he would have done with it.
Henry Winkler also was afraid of being type casted after his roles in Happy Days and Lords of Flatbush...
I remember that. I was surprised when he did "Heroes" after he hit it big with Happy Days.I had expected him to come out with some kind of tough guy action film.
True but since Winkler isn't actually a tall Italian guy the odds were much lower than Travolta being typecast that way.
But can’t throw his voice into tough guy like Henry did- Henry disappears in the role!
@@tonypastor705 He really did.
Butchie Weinstein 👍
Fonzie Barbarino
I can imagine John Travolta as Fonzie and I can imagine Henry Winkler saying "Up your nose with a rubber hose" but i cannot imagine Winkler as Danny Zuko or as a Tony Manero type character. Winkler might have done a good job in Pulp Fiction though although now that I think about it, Uma Thurman is tall and would have towered over him during the dance scene. I think everything worked out for the best for Winkler and Travolta. They both have iconic careers.
Everything worked out for us and for John. Winkler didn't have a career other than Fonz.
Having Mickey Dolenz as the Fonz, would’ve been like having Gary Busey play brother Chuck.
Travolta's first on screen TV role, a trauma victim on EMERGENCY
Did he get depart?
Yep I saw that episode I don't know how many people know that
I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you for this great channel!
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks so much for letting me know!
Travolta became a TV star anyway. When Saturday Night Fever was being filmed the filming locations were inundated with thousands of screaming girls.
Even when SNF was a mega hit, Travolta stayed on Welcome Back, Kotter.
I always thought if a movie were made about Joe Namath in the mid-70s or '80s, John Travolta would have been PERFECT. Now, I would go with Aaron Rodgers for the role of Broadway Joe.
I've actually heard Travolta mention that he thought he looked like Namath. Travolta said he was the QB on his school team and he'd pretend he was Namath. www.azquotes.com/quote/296566
@@TonyBoyOhBoy Great pull ! Never knew Travolta felt that way.
People are saying, "I can't see Micky Dolenz as Fonzie because of his character on The Monkees." For all that Mick, Michael Nesmith, and David Jones more or less played themselves on that show (not so much Peter Tork), it WAS an acting role. Garry Marshall obviously saw something in Micky that would have been perfect for the part. If not for the aforementioned height issue, folks would instead be saying, "I can't imagine anyone BUT Micky Dolenz playing The Fonz!"
Fonzi wasn't even supposed to be a major character.
He was not in the original Love American Style episode.
Since Mickey Dolenz was 6' tall and was turned down, at 6' 2" Travolta never had a shot at the part
Winkler, a Jew playing an Italian. Travolta, an Italian playing with jews
That is hilarious!!
Actually, Travolta went back to his Kotter role occasionally AFTER 'Saturday Night Fever' and 'Grease'.
NGL, Dolenz looked cool as a biker, I could totally see him in the part. But of course Winkler was the correct choice.
i remember Love American Style 💕 loved the theme music 👍
One of my favorite shows my idols were the fonz and Elvis
Henry Winkler was a superior Fonz
HENRY was and is still is the fonze,forever
The Love American Style segment was actually the failed pilot. ABC didn't want to waste it so they snuck it in Love American Style. That led to Ron Howard being cast in American Grafitti. which ironically led to Happy Days being green lit.
makes sense, because it doesn't really fit the theme of LAS..
They need to bring back Love American Style. I used to walk past Paramount Studios on my way to Jr. High in the 70's and we could see the A from the Arnolds set location from over the wall of the studio. I have a feeling Travolta's Fonzie would be the same as his Vinnie.
James Earl Jones was considered for the role of Howard Cunningham but it was felt the public wouldn't accept an inter-racial couple.
Late comment, but I never understood the height thing. I always thought it was weird. That the tough-guy was shorter than everybody else. It would have made more sense if he was 6 ft tall.
I read that it had to do with the framing for the camera. Garry Marshall didn’t want Fonzie pulling the camera up too high over the stars of the show (keep in mind that Fonzie started as a minor character, not the hero he became later on). Dolenz would have commanded the screen too much.
You shouldn't stereotype people. Just because someone isn't tall, doesn't mean that they're not tough. That would be akin to thinking that a black person shouldn't portray an intelligent character.
A Swethog was no match for the Lords of Flatbush.
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Henry was the perfect pick as Fonzie.
Fonzarelli is Italian why would they have a blonde Italian? Travolta would have been a great fonz and he is even Italian doesn't seem like a little Jewish man would make a great fonz but of course The Talented Henry Winkler proved that wrong and was the best fonz ever!
Happy days started out as a serious drama about the 50's but thru the years it got pretty corny and stupid. I actually liked Fonzie in the first few episodes before they turned him into a comic book character. Snaping fingers to get women, getting soda from the coke machine with out paying, beating up guys twice his size...oh common. Even my 11 year old self new it was cringe TV. John Revolta would have made it worse....judging from his Vinnie Barbarino. That crap was TV for teenage girls.
Nah.... Henry Winkler WAS The Fonz 👍👍😎
I always thought Henry Winkler did good as the Fonz back in the day, there were white T-shirts with a cartoon Fonzie with both thumbs up because they were so popular my sister had one
henry winkler stand up guy by all accounts.
Theres only 1 fonz and thats henry!! And noone could say AYYYYYY as gd cool as him
Henry Winkler didn’t turn down the role in Grease because he couldn’t carry a tune. He rejected it because the actor was concerned with being typecast as a “hood” after starring in the Lords of Flatbush movie and Happy Days series. Unfortunately for him Winkler was already typecast as that character so it wouldn’t have made a difference. Oh and Travolta couldn’t carry a tune EITHER as his voice in the movie is completely synthesized to make up for his shortcoming. He is only a “double” vs triple threat in entertainment!
Henry Winkler is a genuinely good person! Met him in person.
I've heard that.
As are you.
👍 👍 “Heyyyyyyy”!
Height or no height, I thin Mickey Dolenz wouldve made a better Fonzie. He looks tough, made up like a '50s hood.
John travels couldn’t get that job! A real Italian? No way. Had to be a fake parody. After all, it’s Hollywood.
So they wanted a short non threatning looking guy to play a biker leader tough guy. Makes sense
Love American Style put out a lot of shows.
Yes, it was a uniquely popular show back in the day.
@TonyBoyOhBoy I was really young but definately remember them on Saturday nights , I think.
I use to watch Happy Days mid 80s, before school. It was on about 7:30am 🥶. All my mates wanted to be like Fonzy! 😂😅 -
John Travolta would have made a great Fonzie, can't see anyone other than Henry Winkler now though
The rich leftists kid was alway gonna bat him out the way.
I think Travolta would had been too tall to play Fonzie. Henry Winkler may not be able to carry a tune, but he was trying to avoid typecasting.
The Fonz was bigger than life. Why on earth would a tall guy playing him be out of place. That whole notion is beyond ridiculous.
If Henry played Danny, and John played The Fonz, the show would likely not have as good of humor
Happy Days was created from the movie "American Graffiti"
I thought that Mickey Dolenz was completely the wrong actor to play Fonzy, as he looked like too much of a nice guy. Then I saw the picture of him as a biker, and I thought he looked to rough and scary to play the Fonz. Still, the producers of Happy Days weren't planning on the Fonz being a reoccurring character and Mickey Dolenz would have fit the role, but I don't think the character would have become the phenomenon that he became. John Travolta also looked like too much of a nice guy to play the Fonz.
👍. He would have made a better potzie!!
Michael Lambreck from One Day at a Time auditioned for the part of The Fonz and, he didn't get the role, but he was about 5'8 or 5'9".
Interesting! I had to look him up - I think he actually resembles Winkler!