TP-Link ER605 Load Balancing Router - Failover / Backup Configuration For Dual WAN (ISP & Cellular)
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- Опубліковано 6 лис 2021
- In this video, I walk through all the administrative settings in my TP-Link ER605 Multi-WAN router which I'm using to manage high availability connectivity on my home network.
I have both an ISP and cellular router running into the multi-WAN router as bridges and the router is handling all wireless and wired networking on my home network, serving an NAS, a media center, and a WiFi access point (among other devices).
Setting up failover allows you to provision high availability connectivity on your network, eliminating or greatly mitigating the downtime you may be experiencing with your primary connectivity source.
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Fantastic video. i wasted an hour of my time watching other before I found yours. This is by far the easiest to understand for newbies.
Beauty! Thanks very much for this. I'm a Captain for a Yacht and it can be difficult a lot of the times for us to get Internet. We have Starlink, Pepwave(Boosted Cellular data), an Aigean bridge, and a Ubiquiti bridge.
I purchased the ER707-M2 and this essentially what im doing. But qith more 4 Wans of course and a smart 8 port switch that connects devices and our Mesh System.
There's a new model of the omada which can do more ISPs and more throughput so you can have more connectivity
@@variancewithin Could you tell me the model name?
Great Video, needed that.
Excelente. Muchas gracias por explicar todo. Soy desarrollador backend y trabajo desde casa. Estaba pensando en hacer exactamente lo mismo que explicaste en el video.
Excellent. Thank you very much for explaining everything. I'm a backend developer and I work from home. I was thinking of doing the exact same thing you explained in the video.
De nada!
@@DanielSRosehill kann ich auch 2 VDSL Leitungen zusammen führen und zu einer Leitung machen?
Helped me a ton I didnt have load balancing checked so it kept using my cellular. Crazy my house was running on 50/1 cellular for a few days
Hello Daniel, thank you for the video, I would like that when a link falls that the other takes over, not to specify a primary link or a backup link, is this possible?
can i configure them using DSL in bridge mode?
Sir i followed youre set up, my primary doesnt have internet, only my back up has internet connection still i dont have internet except i will unplug my primary then there will be internet. Please help.
Can I manage QOS and SLipalg in this router
Does it offer Quality of Service feature since all traffic route to all the network behind it should be distributed evenly.
Hi, can i also select application optimized routing and bandwith balance routing if i still need the backup failover on wan1? I takes to much time for ther er605 to switch from wan to wan1 when the network is working weak so I want both wans to work at the same time and when the wan will stop working use the wan1 as a backup. We are talking about minimising the time from 20s to 0s for backup wan to start working
Can I disable the DHCP Servers on both ISP modems? Only the DHCP on the ER605 will be enabled. Dynamic IP for each ISP will be changed to static.
Appreciate your way of explaining all the specific router setup. Is your cellular router under Cg-nat? Am wondering whether such a solution works with public Ip and Cg-nat Ip together.
No idea - sorry!
Buenas, Tengo un TL-R605, en el cual tengo 2 WAN ISP, quisiera saber si pueden mostrar como configurar para que ciertas direcciones ip salgan solamente por una de las WAN, para que de esa manera no caduque la sesión en las páginas de las bancos y afip. Desde ya muchas gracias
Sir i have a question.Is TP Link ER605 safe to use for Starlink?
Thanks for de video, in the Transmission/load balancing/online Detection, How i setup for WAN/LAN 1 to online, I working with two internet provider, I have TP-ER605, thanks!!!
A warm greeting bro, I hope you're all doing well. I need your help, please. I have this load balancer model, and my issue is that if I disconnect the primary WAN, I lose connection for about 1 minute before it switches to the second WAN port. Is there a way to avoid losing connection, meaning that if the primary connection is lost, the WAN 2 is automatically assigned? For example, to be in a video conference and have the connection remain stable despite disconnecting WAN 1 at that moment.
@Daniel Rosehill If you untick Load Balancing, will that merge both WANS? So if you had 10Mbps coming in and your second WAN2 has 20Mbps, it would provide 30 Mbps?
Hey! That's not really the intended use case for load balancing. You're thinking about connection bonding which requires packet management on the WAN side of the network too. In other words -- no, to the best of my knowledge, you can't aggregate bandwidth between multiple WANs using this setup (although you can optimize the resource of available WANs by routing them more intelligently between your local endpoints).
With a hurricane in Florida, both ISPs are down, now you need to use your phones as ISPs, just plug your phone into the usb port and continue paying you bills.
@Daniel - Can you route traffic on a specific IP range to WAN1 and other traffic on a different IP range to WAN2?
Don't quote me on any of this (because I'm not TP Link). But yes.
As far as I can remember, this is achieved by assigning static IPs to LAN devices in your DHCP manager. Then, bundling those LAN devices into LAN groups.
After that, go into transmission -> routing and you'll be able to set routing rule policies. You can configure any of your groups to route via a specific WAN. I have the interface up in front of me right now but ... after much tinkering this is working and I don't want to break anything. Hopefully somebody else who's got this set up can confirm whether these instructions are accurate or not.
Great video Daniel! This ER605 looks like what I've been searching for. But can you recommend a very similar AP that incorporates dual band WIFI? Since I'm technically not adept, I want something that is as easy to configure as you demonstrated. Thanks again
So on my home network I'm running a TP-Link router in AP Link mode (which has dual band - one of the Archer series). I went for TP Link because that's what both the cellular router and load balancer are so I figured it might minimize interoperability issues. Check the specs but AFAIK most TP Link routers will support AP mode out of the box. If not, they also make a few APs that have dual band WiFI. And .... there are tons of APs by other companies that are dual band. It just might be a bit more legwork to configure everything properly to avoid DHCP conflicts, etc.
@@DanielSRosehill quick question.. when you setup the AP did you set it on a static IP and than let the AP give out DHCP to clients?
Yup AP on a static local IP and as many other devices on the network as logical to avoid any such conflicts.
@@DanielSRosehill ok so lets say router is 192.168.1.1 would you put the AP for example at 192.168.1.10 and than let it lease DHCP for example 192.168.1.20-100
Or is it better to give it different subnet such as 192.168.50.xxx
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How about the third WAN. I have 3 ISPs. I can't seem to get this working. Dual SIP works properly but with the third ISP?
No idea, sorry. I only have two WANs. Quick thought: did you reassign one of the interchangeable WAN/LAN ports?
Just curious, why did you set the line backup test to manual instead of just using auto and let it decide who to ping and use the default DNS server? Did you find this an improvement?
Hi Dave!
No particular reason other than a general preference to be in control of the network. I'm not sure who my ISP uses for DNS, but I figured using a third party which I can identify might ultimately prove more stable. I think I used Google DNS but Open DNS would have been my second choice.
Good instructions ... just 1 tip. The WAN and WAN1 are not supposed to be in the same sub-net.
Not at all. The router will isolate and do NAT. It doesn't matter it's not a bridge.
Thanks for the video. Exactly what I'm looking to do. Now that you've had this running for a while, do you find it 'fails back' to primary automatically? You expressed some doubt at the end of the video... if I'm using PAYG LTE as my backup, I'd really like it to fail back to primary reliably.
As luck would have it, my DSL service got substantially better shortly after going to all this trouble (haha). I think they sent out a crew to do some local roadworks. Ergo, the days of daily internet outage seem to be over. However, looking at the RX/TX logs, I can see that the cellular backup does appear to be kicking in now and again. Running the math (this should be a feature actually!) it's in service about 2% of the time. I would therefore say that 'yes, it appears to be working'! (I wouldn't rate TP-Link support, however. I disregarded their instruction to enable load balancing and just configured the backup link. Also: for the same reason, if I hadn't already bought the hardware, I'd probably go with somebody like Mikrotik or Ubiquiti). Hope your installation goes well!
@@DanielSRosehill thank you. Going to give this a try. I’m not finding a pay by the GB sim so might have to sign up for a low monthly plan. I’ve heard great things about ubiquiti but am trying to avoid spending $500 on the router:)
@@davidandrzejek5705 Yes! Draytek are also big in this space and have a few routers that will do everything in one piece of hardware (e.g. there's one with an embedded SIM module + VDSL input + fiber internet). Expensive also but on the plus side a streamlined hardware solution that will do everything (although I'm actually more a fan of separating out components).
@@DanielSRosehill After reading your above comment "I disregarded their instruction to enable load balancing and just configured the backup link" are you saying you now unchecked the box the says "load balance" during setup or am I reading this wrong? (this is opposite to what you did in the video if thats the case)
My primary wireless line goes down whenever its windy so its a good test for the router. To answer your question yes it switch back to primary line as soon as it finds the connection to be online again.
Great video! Thanks!!
Regarding the failover, at what interval does it check if you're online (via ping/dns lookup)? In other words, if my primary connection fails, will I experience say 10-30 seconds of downtime before it switches?... or will the "Load balancing" being active help me avoid that?
In my experience I get that amount of downtime either way. I've been told that the fail over happens instantly on the network layer but on the application layer it takes a little bit of time to route through the new connectivity
@@DanielSRosehill Interesting - thanks! (This also makes me wonder if just leaving load balancing on might be more effective than also activating failover? That might help remove the delay at the application layer. Any idea?). Either way, just ordered the device - thanks & thanks for the quick reply too!
I compared speed for failover and found that Speedify had better speeds and truly lived up to its promise of seamless failover. The load balancer is always a bit laggy. But if you don't need it that often I guess not such a big deal (perhaps others have had difference experiences)
@@DanielSRosehill Dang... was looking for a software like this several months back (for 2x NICs on a desktop) but couldn't find anything great. I think i've already bit the bullet on the ER605, so will roll with that for now (and I always feel like VPNs slow the latency down noticeably). Thanks!
are there any big speed limits using a 1gb connection and a 2nd source?
Not that I'm aware of. You can configure throttling per individual LAN client or group. However the only hardware speed limit should be the throughout speed of the ethernet ports themselves. For the ER 605 I'm using they're Gigabit ports - so given that I never exceed 80 Mbps currently I think they'll be useful to me for some time yet!
Wie kann ich 2 mal VDSL zusammen führen z.B. 2x250VDSL das ich so auf 500 mbits komme?
My Verizon 5G home gets very slow intermittently. I have another slower service but is rock solid and consistent. Would the ER605 prevent the slow downs if I combine both? Thank you.
What you're looking for is connection bonding which the ER605 doesn't support. Look up a product called Speedify. Unfortunately it's a lot easier to implement at the device than the network level but... It does what you're looking for (including zero downtime fail over between connections)
my problem is I want mine to load balance, it did it a few times successfully then it tries to send everything over one connection instead
Newbie here. Got tired of my Main ISP having biweekly service interruptions so I got a 2nd ISP. In my limited understanding, when the ER605 is set to just Load Balancing mode, it will add up both my ISPs as if I am connected to just 1 ISP right? My first ISP is a 500 Mbps Fiber connection and the 2nd one is another 500 Mbps one. So, will I get 1000 Mbps throughput in Load Balancing mode? Is my understanding correct? Whereas in Failsafe mode, only my 1st ISP will work and the throughput is 500 Mbps still then 2nd ISP will only be used by the router if ISP 1 is offline. Am I right?
You can't aggregate bandwidth in the manner that connection bonding does. However, you can use load balancing to use multiple WANs simultaneously (for that you'll need to set up some rules).
Failover is simpler. As you wrote, it's an either/or rule that will shift connectivity between the WANs depending on a ping/uptime test.
To be honest, either are great options. If one WAN is frequently down and the bandwidth of both ISPs is enough for the network than - purely for the sake of simplicity and ease of setup - I'd stick with simple failover.
Hope that was at least of some help!
how was the failover, does it kick in fast after primary ISP failed? how long does backup ISP kick in?
I think roughly the same as this: ua-cam.com/video/j3gSXg2umms/v-deo.html&ab_channel=DanielRosehill
First, fantastic video. Thanks so much. I am a newbie, so forgive me in advance, but I have a question. We have fiber Internet to our business. Once or twice a year the Fiber goes down. So I thought I would set up a failover to a cellular router. Seems simple enough. But when I got everything set up and tested the failover, our business LAN lost internet connection. Is it possible that that is because of the change in the IP address of the cellular modem when it "took over" supplying internet in the place of our fiber? That's all I can think of. Any suggestions?
I have no idea. Perhaps others can give their thoughts.
The MR600 has an LTE+ modem with auto failover and 4 Gb Ethernet ports.
That said, I like the ER605! But what LTE modem do you use?
So... I couldn't find an actual modem where I live so I actually ended up using a Tp link cellular router and just modifying the default DHCP settings a little. It got the job done
I've got FTTP using PPPOE and a 5G router/modem. Can I use the latter as failover via CAT6E with the ER605?
Yes.
How to configure that would not affect the ping and upload data?
Not sure if this is what you meant, but I haven't noticed any difference in latency connecting directly through my router versus via the load balancer.
hi! is possible to add the speed os two providers?
For my connections:
My vDSL primary is about 80/2 on average.
My backup cellular line is something like 40/10.
In other words, the cellular connection actually has a slightly better upload speed. But by today's standards, both are pretty slow!
as i understood you have mentioned about bad firmware? Could you please tell us ti which firmware you have upgraded?
You can find the latest firmware for the ER605 from the TP-Link website: www.tp-link.com/us/support/download/er605/#Firmware
For V1.0 of the load balancer, the latest firmware, at the time of typing this comment, is ER605(UN)_V1_1.1.1_20210723.
@@DanielSRosehill thanks!
NP!
Thank you, very informative. May I ask if you have the version or with USB version or version 1? Thank you
ER605 (UN) - ver 1.0
(What's written next to the serial number on the product sticker)
@@DanielSRosehill Thank you! I'm about to purchase one online.
good day sir im from philippines, i have a question, is is an auto failover? then what if the main ISP will restore the internet? so it automatically go back to main ISP from Backup ISP??
Yup that's pretty much how it works - or at least how it's supposed to function!
have you encountered no data connection from gsm modem?
No. The cellular connectivity works fine for me when I require it. The problem has more been with the load balancer incorrectly flipping over to it when the primary (VDSL) is intact. A firmware upgrade seems to have resolved that issue, though, thankfully.
Здравствуйте. Спасибо за обзор. Очень аппаратные различия V1 и V2, прямо тайна какая то, можете рассказать или дайте ссылку где можно узнать. Может у кого из пользователей есть сведения?
how can I change ratio between two Wan ??
You could achieve something similar I believe using application-based load balancing. But I'm not sure there's any way to enforce a specific bandwidth ratio between WANs. Perhaps there is and I missed it.
Do you have a clear understanding of the difference between the newer settings for "Backup Mode" of "Link Backup" or "Always Link Primary"? The configuration is 2 primary WAN links being load balanced with a single backup WAN that should be used if both primaries fail. The desired behavior is that it switches off of the one Backup WAN if either of the Primary WANs come back online.
The contextual pop-up explanation is not clear at all.
I don't unfortunately. I got (excellent) fiber optic connectivity a few months after uploading this so my internet troubles are fortunately a thing of the past. However, I've also never worked with more than two WANs. I will say this, though, as completely unhelpful as it is to answering your question: TP-Link's UX has always sucked (IMO) and I found myself referencing the user manual quite frequency because the popups / hover text elements just didn't cut it. Hope someone more useful can help out and good luck with your networking!
Good morning, I have 3 internet providers. in one of them I have an external fixed IP in order to be able to access IP cameras. I have the following equipment, Router prov1 with external fixed IP 27.152.352.52 and gateway 192.168.3.1, router prov2 with gateway 192.168.4.1, router prov3 with gateway 192.168.5.1, tplink R605 with gateway 192.168.2.1 and a general router to manage the entire network, both wired and Wi-Fi, with a 192.168.1.1 gateway. How do I have to configure the opening of ports and IP addresses, so that from the street I can enter and see an IP camera that is connected to the overall router. To enter I have to enter through my fixed IP, 27.152.352.52 and through the port 44444 that I have open. The IP of the camera is 192.168.1.44 port 44444. How and where in the R605 do I have to configure so that entering through the fixed IP it reaches the camera?
You've reached beyond my pay grade, I'm afraid, but perhaps somebody in the comments can help!
@@DanielSRosehill thanks for answering...
anybody knows how to rest the router, the rest by manual is not working, reset button and power put back in should be the way, but it doesn't work
TP LINK ER605 is better than TL-ER5120 ?? i can not find TL-ER5120 anywhere for buying. thanks. er605 can make load-balance ? i can use this router for almost 120 users ?
Sorry, no idea, but just checked the TL-ER5120 from my local vendor and it's listed as "end of life." Not sure exactly what this means in terms of support but .... something you may wish to consider (it has gigabit ports and the same number of ports as the ER605 but looks like a far less space-efficient piece of hardware). And yes, ER605 supports both IP-based and application-based load balancing. It's listed as supporting up to 130 devices in the spec sheet so you should be just within the limit.
@@DanielSRosehill ok. after er605 i will connect 5 ubiquiti AP and TP-Link er605 seems like routing ip over 150 user or more. Thanks for answer. 👋
I’m finding that failover takes 30 seconds to complete. Are you noticing the same thing?
Yup! I even have videos where I time it and got about that!
What I've been told:
-> The failover happens immediately on the network layer
-> It takes a while for applications (e.g. a web browser) to notice the change of WAN and work with it
Which makes sense to me. Most users aren't expected to have multiple WANs at their disposal so I guess the detection checks on apps aren't as good.
For truly seamless failover, I found that connection bonding (with Speedify) beat the load balancer hands down. Failovers were truly seamless / essentially unnoticeable.
Merci !
Hola, excelente video. consulta: como se haría en un modelo con 2 o más wan... quiero que todo usuario que vaya a www.youtube.com (por ejemplo) salga por la wan1 y el resto del tráfico por la wan 2?. ¿Se puede?. Gracias