Renovating Adam LZ's House - Just One MAJOR Flaw With The Home Theater Setup! | EP.30
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Receiver on top is definitely killing the look. Maybe the side speakers being centred above the subs on the black tile would look better, seems too close to the tv?
Here is the part that most people miss. I didn't talk about it in the video. There are very, very few A/V specific cabinets that look decent or are the correct size. The cabinet company we used was semi-custom, so I knew we wouldn't be able to pick the depth. Getting something custom made would cost a boatload, and I didn't have the time to get one done. I went with the sure thing and put the rather good look 778 on top. I think it's a decent concession.
@@ObsessedGarage to see you say woulda cost boat load is fucking hilarious, as like you didnt go way fucking over priced nonsense expansive ass water faucets, with a what $800 towel rack above the toilet, im sure the tv stand coulda bin a lil more custom fit for use here no?
@@pwartv3528 You're missing the part where the constraints on decisions for design and allocations for budget affect what can be spent where. The AV and entertainment were Matt doing what he can with the allowed budget. He specifically addresses that this stuff is not as important to Adam and Colette. The budget isn't unlimited and there are always compromises in projects. The pie is only so big.
@@pwartv3528 How many times did he describe an expensive ass waste of money and then say, I had to twist this guy's(Adam) arm, who's supposed to be my friend, into getting this because I wanted to see it or experience it? The lights, the kitchen sink and the A/V setup, what'd I miss?
I agree the receiver on top is a miss. Users don't need to look at the receiver ever, so why not put it in the cabinet sideways (solves depth issue) and vertical? As matt points out the wiring above the cabinet is kind of gross but im sure weve all made these kinds of hind sight errors.
Left and right speakers could be dropped to make the tops level with the top of the TV and that would fix the aesthetic.
Mike and Matt are absolutely hilarious together lol. Would love more podcasts between you two with random off topic subjects! Makes for great/funny banter.
I don't understand why people think that every single piece of furniture, hardware, electronics needs to be in the absolute perfect place. Every house I've ever been in or worked on has concessions made. Yeah with unlimited time and budget and most importantly energy, you could get close to a perfect layout/setup but that's not reality. A receiver on a cabinet or a towel bar in a suboptimal place isnt ruining this project.
Bingo!
The 120" TV's are coming out now Matt...easy fix! LOL
I like the bigger speakers ... old school audiophile here ! Put another box similar size on the other side of the receiver.
Thank you for showing the process. This installation is really incredible. Getting all the wall boxes in the right place shows the precision of your plan. Well done!
Matt, thanks to you I went with an NAD C700 and Dynaudio Emit 50 towers for my hangout room (loft). I couldn’t be happier with it. Thanks for spreading the magic of NAD + Dynaudio into the world. Now to add an SVS sub
As soon as the smaller speakers are in this whole system is going to look incredible! Absolutely love it and I’ve been obsessed on the LZ project videos! I think you and the team are doing a brilliant job!!
That wall is a masterpiece! Honestly I could live with the big speakers. Good job! The PSB and NAD stuff all has a nice clean modern look to it. I’m definitely a fan. Adam and Collette will enjoy that space, I’m sure.
"Don't trust anyone that says 'trust me'...but trust me" 🤣
Due to some wounds I developed I haven’t been able to do cold dunks in a while, but I was doing 15 minutes at 50-55* when ever my pool would get that cold. I loved it.
Oh yeah Matt’s time to shine. I’m pumped to see the a/v expertise.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 📢 *The PSB speakers have titanium dome tweeters with wave guides, which Matt normally doesn't like but thinks will sound good here.*
00:58 📺 *The setup will include an Apple TV 4K as the video source, an NAD T778 receiver for audio, and an 83" LG OLED TV.*
02:30 🛋 *This will be more of a family room setup rather than a dedicated home theater, with some acoustic treatment from furniture/rugs. *
03:10 🎶 *Matt is very impressed with NAD's use of Class D amplification, finding it sounds amazing despite lower power ratings.*
04:05 🗜 *The speaker setup is limited by the room, but will include front L/C/R speakers, side surrounds, and 2 subwoofers.*
08:43 📏 *Matt is laying out exactly where he wants the TV bracket, center channel, and other components mounted. *
11:29 📦 *Matt rants about getting rid of unneeded TV accessories and not being a hoarder.*
16:35 🕹 *The NAD receiver has modular inputs that can be changed later if new sources are added.*
21:53 🕳 *Matt is installing wall grommets to hide wires going to the receiver since the speakers limited his options.*
23:25 🥶 *Adam, Collete, Matt and Mike do an intense 3-minute cold plunge challenge in 52 degree water.*
26:32 🕳 *Mike helps Matt cut holes in the cabinet for the subwoofers, which Matt has pre-wired. *
33:42 📺 *They mount the 83" LG OLED TV and center it on the backsplash grout line. *
36:52 🎼 *Matt explains the PSB speakers have titanium dome tweeters and wave guides to prevent them from sounding too bright.*
39:43 ⚡ *The full system has simple connections: 5 speaker wires, 2 subwoofers, 1 HDMI, and the NAD modules.*
42:05 😟 *Matt realizes the front speakers look too big and overwhelm the TV, so he may swap them for smaller models.*
42:33 🤔 *Matt knew the speakers might be too big but wanted to try them first before deciding they need to be changed.*
43:14 🖼 *Matt decides to swap the front speakers for smaller PSB Imagine PWM1 models instead to better fit the TV visually. *
44:30 📺 *Going down just one more size to the PWM2 speakers would still overwhelm the TV, so PWM1 seems the best fit.*
45:10 ⚠ *Matt spent months planning every detail, but still had one mismatch with speakers too big, showing obsession and reality don't always match.*
46:46 🧩 *Getting 40 out of 40 details perfect is rare, so minor adjustments like speaker swap are expected in complex projects. *
47:11 🔈 *Matt will install the matching surround speakers, then calibrate once all furniture is in place.*
49:43 🎼 *Even unfinished, Matt loves the full speaker setup with the NAD receiver, impressed by the sound in the echoey unfinished room.*
Nice
The real mvp out here with timestamps ⭐
Yo tell us the truth. You AI ? 🤖
You need help champ!😂
Chill hero
Live and learn!! If you’re not failing you’re not growing.
As you said maybe on the next one you plan for the outlets to be inside the cabinet and if the receiver doesn’t fit inside you drill the holes and bring the cables up through the top.
NAD from the 80s, and NAD cd player from then was great…
Did a blind comparison to what was supposed to be best cd player, both myself and sales guy preferred one of them for the same reason. His response when we turned one off to determine a vs b “my god it’s the NAD”
Setup is looking good! Nice contrast on the grey wall. Laurel did good on those earthy and modern colours. GJ for Adam and Collette also doing a cold plunge. Best wishes from Finland! We do that in ice holes at lake :)
Matt, instead of saying trust me... say trust in the process. That's what I tell my customers that can't see the vision until the vision is completed.
Ah...smart. I'm stealing that one. Thanks.
lol that’s pretty much saying the same thing when it’s your process. I get what you’re saying though.
Love the content, can't wait for the end result. And then the next project.
Damn the tv looks amazing up there, Looking forward to seen wit the couchs chairs and tables in there. Collete and Adam amazing job with doing the cold thing...
Love the videos Matty!!! Keep up the good work. I think the setup looks great. I’m sure it sounds great. Don’t listen to 90% of the comments. Just keep doing your thing. Love the process! If I were buying a setup I’d be following your guidance.
Adam talking about the screws not lining up straight up and down, and then realising I have a real issue because I tend to maken sure that is the way with a lot of my mounting hardware on just about anything I work on (unless it needs to be torqued to a specific number, than the torque trumps the symmetry)
I would take the performance of the taller speakers personally but I can see why you’d want to make it visually appealing too. I’m sure both setups would be rockin either way.
You are not alone Matt with your younger self doing a lot of dreaming and planning. Crunchfield was my bible also
Finally my childhood as a catalog junkie has been validated and vindicated! I knew every square inch of the J&R Music World and Crutchfield catalogs and would also build elaborate hypotheticals I couldn't afford. It's what us geezers today did pre-internet then. It was a glorious existence.
never knew those pass through wire connectors used on the grounds were a thing. now i need to go buy some because the way the grounds are done in this house drive me insane and those would fix it. thanks Mike.
Agreed...I've never seen those before either
Function over feng shui leave the big speakers it will sound amazing and it doesn’t look bad at all
Sad to hear you guys ordered different speakers.. I would have just got a bigger tv if it bothered you so much.. That tv looks too small for the wall let alone the room..
Also why are the front channels so close together.. They should be on the black sides.. You spent the time running the wires for the rear.. not gunna have good separation in the front..😕
All the guys should do a COLD plunge at the end of the series
Highly anticipated video!
Adam and collete sure will use dinning table more than all cabinets in kitchen making little table there with bench makes so much sense..
Speakers look great!!!
Hey Matt,, I’m glad it’s sounding good when it’s all dialed in, it’s going to be that much better. for pre-planning this like you did and that’s your only issue I think he did pretty good I myself could live with the bigger speakers, but. The smaller speakers do look better. and I am assuming you’re crossing them over at 80 Hz so with the subwoofers hearing the difference between the speakers probably is minimal. If you were running them at full range I’m sure there definitely would be an audible difference. Have a great one as always.
I really like to setup Matty, even if the speaker heights don’t quite match the vision, it’s a beautiful setup. The uncomfortable truth most people will never admit…. is they don’t have the ear to hear the difference between top quality hi-fi audio brands. I know even after 25 years of being a geek, I rarely can tell the difference, and I personally like to select audio equipment based off user interface and systems compatibilities.
You should really DIY modify the cabinet, and merge two of them, cut out the seperator and reinforce the frame. AV on top is too much of a compromise. (also add some vents for airflow)
I really like how the 778 looks with it's color display. I like it out there.
I also enjoy seeing my receiver. I'm also partial to not having dust covers on the speakers. The smaller speakers will look really good without it. Good job guys. These commentors don't understand that not everything can be 100 percent perfect. The budget would have to increase two-fold. Adam and Collete won't care at all. @@ObsessedGarage
You can just move the 3s down a bit to be perfecly aligned with the hight of the tv. It would require moving down the bracket wich sucks abit but it would look good designwise
I think it looks dope af with the bigger speakers on the sides
Your content vibe is just right, keep it up
Hey Matt I know you said the receiver or amp doesn’t fit in the cabinet but how come that wasn’t figured out or planned for? Same with the junction box being placed above the cabinet. Placement for both just looks really bad.
I feel like if the top of the TV was level with the top of the speakers (PWM3) it would make the set up a lot cleaner with the big speakers
Everybody was really happy 😂😂😂😂
Nice to know adam has the same tv as me!!! I have sonos surround setup though, might be time to switch to PSP, my dad loves his desktop PSP speakers i bought him last year.
i personally love the bigger speakers. they look like a work of art, i wouldnt even put the covers on them.
I've been concerned about scratching up the bottom of my Apple TV remote, it's so beautifully made. Went on Amazon immediately and bought the black silicone protector For 10 bucks. Thanks for recommending it.
IMHO... the receiver on top of the floating shelf looks worse than the taller speakers. Like... A LOT worse.
For that room, I would’ve done a single Devialet Dione Ope’ra sitting on top of the wall unit!! Like you said Matt, it’s not a home theater room, so keep it elegant!!
Receiver on top is definitely an eyesore. Keep it elegant! Great sound without all these big black blobs on the wall should be a part of the obsession. hidden but the best sound. Also the outlets for the cables should have been in the cabinet you can then always guide them up, this gives you an option to place the receiver sideways in the cabinet and not have the ugly outlets.
Hindsight is always easy to get it perfect.
Very nice speakers even if they are very big compared to the TV Matt, so it's great if you can get smaller ones to finish it off...hey if not...they definately have a punch. The set up regardless looks very clean. I agree with the receiver being placed on the top due to the lack of venting. Every type of reciever and even gaming console has different levels of heat that can kill them unless you install a full wind tunnel in a cabinet lol.
Personally guys, I love the look of the bigger speakers. Aesthetically pleasing. Even with the covers on. And I'm normally a covers off kind of guy.
It would have been pretty cool if Adam had gone with a Tango touched over the LG, but it's still a sweet setup. Looks good, Matt.
If the reciever was in the cabinet and the speakers showing it would look better.
Won't fit. Unless you buy a dedicate A/V cabinet, they are always too shallow. I was veto'd on BDI or Salamander.
@@ObsessedGarage its a little busy on the left side is why i said that. I'm a gen X that was heavy into car and house audio back in the day with crutchfield and other audio and video mags.
My opinion, it all looks too busy being crammed in that lighter tile area. I would have hung the speakers in the black tile area. Also the reciever on top is sending my OCD mental, personally i cant have ANYTHING under a TV when im watching it as i dont want my concentration to be broken by an object or a light under it, and that big black box just being off to the left with no symmetry on the right side is killing me. That should have definitely been inside the unit to keep the minimilist look
That is not what obsessive compulsive disorder is.
@@ObsessedGarage that's a strange reply to someone with an opinion. OCD can be a plethora of things, when it comes to tidyness and minimilism OCD can be having everything sat a certain way, sat at right angles to the surrounding objects etc. Just because you have a certain OCD tick doesnt mean everyone elses is the same. My opinion stands, it doesnt look right and looks too busy/ cluttered, but hey, im just a viewer helping you get views
@@fiestaturbo I think the issue is how many of us misuse the term ocd. Someone with OCD isn’t necessarily needing to be clean, organized or have things in a certain way. A perfect example would be someone like Matt. He has shared with us that his issue revolves around his fear when driving and of the unknown.
@@NeemoHose-ir5ht I wasnt questioning his OCD, he questioned my meaning of it when referring to the cluttered look of the media set up
I think if the top of the Tv and the top of the larger speakers were level it would look fine. It’s the fact they stick up a little higher than the TV is the issue.
Best Buy does price match within the return window - 15 days or 60 with their subscription
Damnit mat you’re making me want to redo my living room setup. Got some old floor standing speakers that could use a resto and a receiver that needs to be upgraded. A 75” tv would be nice too lol
I need a Surge Schluder Sconce drill
Good to see Matt finally voice that he's clearly biased to products he likes vs products that are actually better.
Any audio or electronics guy should know that having power cables bundled up like that is a bad idea
What I like is better, and I’ve never in my life had a problem tying up wiring.
@ObsessedGarage better 🤣🤣🤣 . Anyone who claims an iPhone is the best phone and non iphone is trash clearly haven't actually done the research. The fact that Apple customers have brainwashed themselves and others is nuts . They get a blind following , apple even deliberately reduces support for older products . They even deliberately change the way the accessories work with the phones so you have to buy all new shit .
But then again that just sums up the us they follow things and people blindly even when thay things is screwing them over .
Coiled up cables causes damage to the lead by causing hot spots which causes the wires to .
Not hard to shorten the leads which is the correct solution you even have a electrician thay could do it .
Stop claiming things you do or like are the best . When they are just personal preferences.
@ObsessedGarage 🤣🤣🤣 keep thinking that .
Shortened power leads are piss easy. speakers would have looked 10x better on the dark tile
Excellent work! The white ones do look better
cant beat an early sunday morning upload
I did two things this morning that easily beat an upload.
PWM2's might still be small enough at 36" next to that 41.6" height... I think those are the way to go!
I was going to do them, but I test fitted the white rears. It was pretty clear the PWM1 were going to look best.
Those small speakers are definitely a no go! The bigger ones look way better! And I bet sound way better!
All that space, Evoke floor standing speakers would be nice. The proportions of the space would look a lot nicer too. It's not like you're trying to fit Klipschorn's or Magnepan's....Which would look cool in that room lol.
Yeah, it would have been cool.
Lmao. Adam.. " that was easy " ......... Matt loosing his shit! 🤣
Have to say.. Love your no-give-a-darn attitude and how you approach how you're putting the TV system together. Quik ? Have a Yamaha v381 receiver and looking for a subwoofer. was wonder what a good choice would be?
SVS SB2000PRO
Wall and system looks great, still not sure about Matt? LOL!🤣
I think it looks good as is. Besides ask Adam what he thinks. He may not mind.
I think mike needs his own channel, hard watching matt all the time
Just an idea that could make a big difference… I’ve seen those audiophile amps with the exposed vacuum tubes that glow or have lit up LEDs when powered on. Maybe add one of them on the other side of the floating cabinet below the TV to balance the aesthetic?
MC2152 70th Anniversary 2-Channel Vacuum Tube Amplifier from McIntosh - Run the wires through the floating cabinet to the NAD receiver. Just another idea to obsess over. lol. Love this series. Thanks for keeping us entertained and thanks for explaining everything. You guys are great. Don’t let the haters get you down.
I think the receiver on top of the cabinet looks worse than the speakers.
I would try to drop the tops of the speakers to be flush with the TV, and see how that looks. I would also ask Adam what sound, and look he likes better. I know personally I would be okay with the bigger speaker look for the added sound.
Due to what they are going to use it to watch/listen, the center channel is the most important. The L/R aren't carrying as much of the load, so I think it's going to be negligible for moderate volume Netflix watching. The key is they are still timbre matched.
The receiver is definitely not in the right place. All the symmetry has been defeated by placing it there.
center needs to be more forward so doesnt reflect off the cabinet and L&R should be further apart and lower for better immersion but they've gone looks over function
Im thinking the center speaker needs to downsize to a 1 as well, if you want to really open that dpace up and get the modern, minimalist look.
The subs need black grille covers Matty.
Tv looks fking great well done matt i think it looks good
I had no problems with the way the larger towers looked on the wall but I also have floor standing speakers with 12" drivers all around so I'm not the target audience there. I also enjoy looking at my components so having the receiver on top doesn't bother me.
Id leave it as is... Keep the speaker performance and add a shelf above the tv to balance the look. Also allow for some contrasting decor above the tv.
I guess that could go against the clean modern look but i bet it could be done well and balance it out. As long as the spacing is the same above and below the TV its be good.
Again just my opinion and im not anyone that matters... Haha
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Think the Amp will look alright once the speakers are switched. Actually think it would look better with A slightly smaller TV on the wall as there isn’t much space around the TV for the speakers as they look quite close to the vertical tile making it look cramped, I’m sure in person it will look different to how it appears on the video.
I hope u can dim or turn off the amp display, otherwise i'd be sticking some tint on it or something. That's the only miss for me and i would 100% keep the bigger speakers for performance. But I definitely would've lined up the top of the speakers with the top of the tv instead of splitting the difference. In true hindsight fighting Laurel to mount the front left and right on the black outer tile to not looked squashed as the outer black tile looks bare now lol.
Now that your tiling above the kitchen cabinets (which for the record i think is the right move) are you going to have a white or black soeaker up there? Love everythinf so far. Killing it.
Black
Do you run Apple TV into tv and eARC to AVR on all your set ups?
I have Apple TV running into my DENON x4800h and it’s super buggy trying to get it to control volume etc etc all with Apple Remote. Sometimes it works, than randomly it all falls apart and stops working.
Does the c3 support audio passthrough? I know the c2 didn't for dts so you would only get pcm unless you were to go apple tv> receiver> tv.
I'm pretty sure C3 does pass full lossless.
I like the bigger speaker but you should lower them so they align with the top of the tv. This will visually make them look smaller
I have an Anthem Stereo receiver, I'd like to try out NAD.
I don’t think having the receiver on the top is an issue. I would consider moving the Apple TV to behind the TV, they don’t really need access to it and it would help streamline it. The smaller speakers will look great
Honestly, if you bring the speakers down so it's level across the top, i think it would look good
Thank u for getting collet in the cold plunge 😮 my life is complete now 😊
Is it possible to continue the fluted wall tile across the center of the wall and notch out holes for the on wall speakers? The problem imo is the current color difference.… Maybe even paint the center to match? I think all the components would instantly disappear if the center section was a darker color. You could even space the speakers out a bit for a larger sound stage… I would kill to hear those speakers in that room 🤤
We can't... It's block behind the tile, and there is a hole behind the current position.
I went with the Samsung OLED S95C, I looked that the LG, and I almost went with it. For audio I have a Harman Kardon receiver with Acoustic Research floor speakers and surround speakers. That's about as nuts as I go for audio video stuff, which isn't shit compared to what Adam has there. 😂
LG and Samsung make nice TV’s but after I bought Sony Bravia I will never buy anything else. Sony makes the best TV’s in my opinion and for my taste. I’m looking forward to upgrading the audio in all my TVs with your recommendations. Thank you for all the great content and for making finding the correct gear for our lives.
I'm actually a fan of the larger speakers.
Man, I feel like it was a big miss not going with the G3. I know $1500 is a good amount of money but considering they went with $800 toilet paper holder not going with the G3 which is a difference you can actually see and will use daily. Place is still looking good though.
The toilet paper holder was nearly free. The LG came full boat.
You should make a video on the TVs that you recommend and what makes one better than the other. Its so confusing with the OLED, QLED, UDH.
Just google it
Spacing out the speakers further from the tv would solve the problem being too big and you get better stereo/surround sound at the same time.
Not a fan of either side speaker option...but if choosing between the two options you have...I would go with the bigger speakers and just lower them a bit...
Exposed receiver looks cool, but please stick the AppleTV to the back of the TV!
I honestly think the big speakers don’t look too bad and think could look good with that setup if the top of speakers lined up with top of tv just my thoughts.
Maybe bluesounds wireless home theater stuff woulve been a better option with not being able to fit receiver in cabinet, or bluesound amps if they have those, i know it wouldn't have the fine tuning like a receiver but it sitting on top of cabinet kills the look no matter how good the receiver looks.
When Mike asked Mike if he was going in the cold plunge I got too excited😂 but he let me down today😢
Excited? What were they going to do?
I personally like the speakers probably a much better sound than what you are going to have to downgrade to.
I think I like the speakers without the grills. Helps add some contrast so it doesn't look like a bunch of black rectangles on the wall.
Speakers aren’t horrible IMO, smaller would be better. Adam may be fine with them? Throw the receiver on the floor to the left?