The biggest difference here is that RSi2's spin on off center hits is considerably lower but it still retains a lot of the energy from that hit compared to a normal strike. Less spin = more carry, but there's a trade-off here that while it will retain more carry into the green, the reduced spin will make the ball hit and release, then potentially roll further away. The SLDR, on the other hand, only lost
I suspect that lofts are stronger for the RSi2s. SLDRs look better in my opinion as well. It's a shame that TM always replace their lines too quickly. I think they were onto a winner with the SLDR irons. Oh well, i guess the consumer wins as they have really come down in price since the RSIi2s were released.
SLDR did better in my opinion in this test, the difference between the toe hit and out of the middle hit was way less then in the RSI-2, they where all shorter but much better dispersion.
Rick, RSi2 center strike is 176 carry, and first good toe strike is 166 carry = loss of 10 yards. SLDR center strike is 166 carry, and first good toe strike is 161 carry = loss of 5 yards Doesnt the SLDR win? I realize that there are too many factors (ie the need to hit hundreds of balls to get similar data) but given the data that you provide it seems that the SLDR are shorter by 10 yds on center strike. I love the concept of this test and was very excited to watch it, but it seemed rushed and the conclusions had some flaws (mentioned above). I applaud you for doing this kind of video, but encourage more clarity in the summary. I appreciate TM and their approach to technology. They did a great bit for the release with an Iron Byron, but the skeptic in me is left wondering why they didnt just hook up an older model to show the "massive" advantage in the RSi vs the older model. Opportunity lost.... or avoided? Thanks Mark
His club head speed was 2 mph faster on the hit with the SLDR you're referring to. That's going to generate a little more distance and a lot of factors to be different, especially on an off center hit. So that could account for another 5 yards carry. so you're getting at least 5 yards extra carry if not 10 on the same hit from the RSi2, yet you'd choose the SLDR still? The RSi2 is also 10 yards longer on centered hits than the SLDR with only a degree different in loft. I don't see how this isn't a positive review for the RSi2...Is it worth going out and selling your SLDR irons for if you already have those, no probably not. But if you're looking for new irons I'd go RSi2 every time over the SLDR.
Three years after this video i see plenty of rsi irons for sale second hand but havent seen 1 set of sldr for sale dont know what that means either theyre so good people are holding onto their sldr or they sold only a few when they were new
I'm not sure if anyone is still following this thread, but I recently picked up a gently used set of SLDR irons and I absolutely love them. A nice upgrade from my Taylormade Super Steel's. I really think they are some of the best looking irons Taylormade has produced in the last 6-7 years. I realize they are already several years old but I can see myself hanging on to these for a few more years.
Another great review Rick! Question: Does the faceslots on the RSi1 and RSi 2 have any issues with getting filled up with dirt/sand when playing on real grass?
I think all of the modern irons from the big manufacturers are all much of a muchness. There might be 3-5 yards difference between them all when hit with a Robot. It's more important to pick one that you like the look and feel of. Face slots? They are just a marketing gimmick but that doesn't mean they are bad irons. The RSi2's look pretty decent to be fair, much better than the RSi1's.
The biggest difference here is that RSi2's spin on off center hits is considerably lower but it still retains a lot of the energy from that hit compared to a normal strike. Less spin = more carry, but there's a trade-off here that while it will retain more carry into the green, the reduced spin will make the ball hit and release, then potentially roll further away.
The SLDR, on the other hand, only lost
I suspect that lofts are stronger for the RSi2s. SLDRs look better in my opinion as well. It's a shame that TM always replace their lines too quickly. I think they were onto a winner with the SLDR irons. Oh well, i guess the consumer wins as they have really come down in price since the RSIi2s were released.
I agree, I have and love my SLDR irons for 9 months now, I only wish they made a SLDR Tour iron with no offset. All my misses are to the left.
I'm from the future. We know alot more now.
2.5 degrees - each degree strong is 3-4 yards increase.
RSI2 - 30 *
SLDR- 32.5*
i dont really like the face slots. happy with my SLDRs i bought last year :)
SLDR did better in my opinion in this test, the difference between the toe hit and out of the middle hit was way less then in the RSI-2, they where all shorter but much better dispersion.
Rick,
RSi2 center strike is 176 carry, and first good toe strike is 166 carry = loss of 10 yards.
SLDR center strike is 166 carry, and first good toe strike is 161 carry = loss of 5 yards
Doesnt the SLDR win?
I realize that there are too many factors (ie the need to hit hundreds of balls to get similar data) but given the data that you provide it seems that the SLDR are shorter by 10 yds on center strike.
I love the concept of this test and was very excited to watch it, but it seemed rushed and the conclusions had some flaws (mentioned above). I applaud you for doing this kind of video, but encourage more clarity in the summary. I appreciate TM and their approach to technology. They did a great bit for the release with an Iron Byron, but the skeptic in me is left wondering why they didnt just hook up an older model to show the "massive" advantage in the RSi vs the older model. Opportunity lost.... or avoided?
Thanks
Mark
His club head speed was 2 mph faster on the hit with the SLDR you're referring to. That's going to generate a little more distance and a lot of factors to be different, especially on an off center hit. So that could account for another 5 yards carry. so you're getting at least 5 yards extra carry if not 10 on the same hit from the RSi2, yet you'd choose the SLDR still? The RSi2 is also 10 yards longer on centered hits than the SLDR with only a degree different in loft. I don't see how this isn't a positive review for the RSi2...Is it worth going out and selling your SLDR irons for if you already have those, no probably not. But if you're looking for new irons I'd go RSi2 every time over the SLDR.
Those were 7 irons
Great video Rick! I Love the comparison(s) with the simulator!! Very cool.. More please..!!!
Hi Rick,
Where is the RSI2 vs AP2 that you talk about in this video?
Thanks,
Hi Rick, thumbs up for the new style of using golf course sim. Makes it more fun. Keep up the good work mate.
I just got the speed blades so hopefully it's hood go well
The spin numbers are quite a bit higher on the SLDR's. That probably explains the shorter distances. I wonder why TM took the spin out of the RSI2?
Rick, when will you do a review of Titleist 915's and the new Nike Vapor irons?
Haha at around about 1:20 rick says " lets go taylormade first " I'm pretty sure there both tm
Rick you can select iron on GC2 HMT Instead of the driver...
I would take the sldr . More spin to stop the ball on the green
Have u put the rsi2 in the bag it looks like you've put your game golf piece in
This is the review I have been waiting for think the Rsi 2 have it
id like to know the spin rates, i feel like the sldrs were spinning more.
Bit off topic here rick...but how do you hit from the toe? my strike tends be towards the heel
When you hit off center the ball is going to go off center. Now why would I want my ball to go further and hook even more?
Three years after this video i see plenty of rsi irons for sale second hand but havent seen 1 set of sldr for sale dont know what that means either theyre so good people are holding onto their sldr or they sold only a few when they were new
I'm not sure if anyone is still following this thread, but I recently picked up a gently used set of SLDR irons and I absolutely love them. A nice upgrade from my Taylormade Super Steel's. I really think they are some of the best looking irons Taylormade has produced in the last 6-7 years. I realize they are already several years old but I can see myself hanging on to these for a few more years.
Another great review Rick! Question: Does the faceslots on the RSi1 and RSi 2 have any issues with getting filled up with dirt/sand when playing on real grass?
theyre filled with a rubber polymer or something so they are actually even with the face.
I think all of the modern irons from the big manufacturers are all much of a muchness. There might be 3-5 yards difference between them all when hit with a Robot. It's more important to pick one that you like the look and feel of.
Face slots? They are just a marketing gimmick but that doesn't mean they are bad irons. The RSi2's look pretty decent to be fair, much better than the RSi1's.
well, maybe face slots isn't only marketing
Are these strong lofted clubs?
The SLDR is generating a lot more spin.
What number of the irons is he hitting?
Are the kids the same on the 2 clubs ?
Did you hit a 7 or 8 iron?
It was a 7 iron
Thanks
jonathan phoenix your welcome
Nice review Ricki *****
Lofts sorry
Did does not give any idea Rick, cause this is 0 cientific test, with only one hit each...