Secrets from International Math Olympiad Winner (Exclusive Interview)
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2024
- I talked to Ram Goel, a winner of the International Math Olympiad (IMO). He won a gold medal at the USAMO, and got 2nd place. He got a perfect score on the USAMTS. He was a MOP participant and was selected for the USA IMO team. He also did research and was a Regeneron Science Talent Search Scholar and International Science & Engineering Fair winner.
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No list of winners because the organizers are not sharing it.
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Great to see this passion for maths! Thanks for the tips guys!! 🙂
Both of them had one of their generations in India💀💀
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i loved your videos. i wanted to ride up to the challange of participating in local math team contests in the state by our school, however, i was unable to even go to tryouts becuase the school labeled me as autism and disabled. i do love math and enjoy it. i although dislike how it creates an immaturity society
Amazing job Rishabh- I am a physician oncologist and a physician scientist in Immunooncology and my son in middle school shared this with me
It's amazing how spot on and valuable your advice is for anybody in school interested in research
Great work and all the best
You sound like a great parent for having your middle school son interested in Olympiads.
@@ameyamandhare8288He sure is!
I couldn't believe both of them are Indian untill saw their name
bruh such talent
Great video!
Hey Rishab! I watch your videos from Bangladesh. Could you please interview more olympiad medalists-would be great!
Hi I really appreciate how you put up such informative videos for all students … really helps… I would also request you if you can put up such videos f international students as well like which Olympiad , which competition what , how etc … will be of great help f students who watch your videos from countries like INDIA n so on … thanks a ton
Great suggestion!
Great video thx !!
Hi Rishab! I've been having trouble Finding the books Ram mentioned. If you have a moment, could you please go through the books and share the authors' names with us? Thanks!
Inspirational
Hello guys it's a privilege for me to be here
Hiiii Rishab, my name is Mark from Uganda and I love Math:) It is my best subject followed by pyhsics and chemistry and of course I love ICT. I am currently in 11th grade and my dream school is MIT but whenever I see such videos of people who get into MIT, even you your self about the cancer thing I see
how hard it is to get in because because at these Ugandan high schools, there is nothing like Math competions or such staff. What do you advise me to do please.
Try online olympiads
I looked it up and Uganda does participate in the IMO since 2012. This means that there is probably a team selection test somewhere in your country.
good content
I wish I was smart like this ;(
Follow the tips that he gave in Section 2 & 3 of the video, and keep learning!
Currently there is no Video section(time stamps )
I think 💬 the only real advice was getting a good fundamental book working on it and doing question slightly above your current difficulty level
Work hard my friend and never underestimate yourself starting with wishing to become like other people dream bigger but don’t make your dreams your masters. I hope this might help
Us broo us 😢😢😢😢
Not to many people are this talented.
hello, i love this video and hearing goel's insight was very useful. however, even though goel is certainly a prodigy, a don't know if putting "prodigy" in the thumbnail supports your channel's idea of hard work and dedication resulting in improvement. it kind of gives off the vibe that the average person should just admire and realize that they will never be able to accomplish such a feat. and while that fact may unfortunately be true, i don't think it should be promoted as part of your channel.
привет из России. удивлен, что он в пиковой форме тратил 5-6 часов в день. например, я сейчас в 10 классе и уже как 2 года занимаюсь в среднем по 4-5 часов в день, а в нашей стране обычно дети, которые в итоге участвовали в IMO, начинали заниматься с 4- 5 класса, у нас отбор в команду думаю как и у вас сложен из за количества людей, то есть конкуренция высока, а так, в нашей стране есть олимпиады, например, всероссийская олимпиада школьников, задания которых такие же по сложности , чем на imo, и большинство лучших математиков идут учиться после школы в спбгу на факультет математики и компьютерных наук, а физики идут в МФТИ
congrats winning in isef
It's interesting talking to inherently talented people, but as a normal person myself with aspirations of mathematical research all I'm left wondering is - what room is there for me in the mathematical community? When a field is stratified by intrinsic aptitude like maths is, one wonders what the people with the real gifts think about those of us struggling to make meaning out of things that come so easy for them. Of course, everyone works hard. But I find this less inspirational and more discouraging as a non-smart person who tries their best.
for real dude.Some people say maths is all about hard work but it is not.Its all about thinking and here comes the issue.Iq is something that is only genetics and it can not be increased .So people who have great iq genetics are surely gonna excel unlike us with average iq struggling to solve even a simple puzzle
ackerman99 chill, maths isn't going to make you rich.
@@raheem2845 I'm already rich, no idea why that matters
It is all up to hard and SMART work. These guys started when they were very young and have spent massive amounts of hours walking on the correct pathway. It's never too late to start! Make more connections and improve your creativity. Imagination is the key
@@raheem2845 Math can make your rich though, applied math and even pure math or just double majors involving math can get you amazing jobs in finance and economics. Especially if you have a Masters in Math Econ or Math Finance, etc.
Nice..videos
Cool 😮
Ima start grinding
if ur at the age where u even speak its too late to start grinding😞
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Can U make a video sharing your ECs that got U into MIT?
Math 👍
how to monetize this skills?
Become a quant
There is only 1 white kid? All rest are Chinese and 1 indian
where did you end up committing to? im curious
harvard college
I will meet you at harvard in 2025
If you do the math, it looks like the Copernicus International Math Olympiad is a huge money-making scheme of the organizers: cheap prizes and awards, dozens of gold, silver, bronze medals to make each country happy, apparent share in expenses for tours, hotel accommodations, etc. One red flag: the organizers don't give the long list of winners. Each contingent upon returning to their respective countries just focus on the medals, awards of their native sons giving the impression that they were overwhelming winners. I hope I'm wrong.
There is a list of the winners. Please check the IMO’s website. I don’t know what this Copernicus IMO is?
he got bronze
How many hours he sleep
orz
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Hello Rishab Jain!
I am your big fan and thank you so much for all your informative videos😊, I am a 9th-grade student from (Pakistan🇵🇰) I am interested in mathematics and I have decided to attend the IKMC (International Kangaroo Math Competition), but the problem is that I have not any guidance to achieve my dreams, but I started for preparation on myself through UA-cam & Chat gpt, but I need help from you about the books that is helpful for me to prepare for my competition and I belong from a poor family, if you help me about the books I am really happy and if you have any advice for me please give me,
I'm looking forward to your reply.😊
love❤ from Pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰
@@noor-rj7lj thanks so much for the advice and encouragement! I really appreciate it. It's great to hear from someone else in Pakistan who is also passionate about math.
I will take your advice and talk to my math teacher about the national math olympiad and the IKMC. I'm also going to start practicing with past papers and watching videos on the topics that are covered.
I'm also happy to hear that you're aiming to get into MIT. That's my dream school too! that's why I want to attempt the math olympiad to make my good resume I know it's going to be a lot of work, but I'm determined to make it happen.
Thanks again for the support. I'll keep you updated on my progress!
Best of luck to you too!
@@user-yw9rf7up2i No problem at all. And thankyou for listening to my advice 😭 And MIT as a dream school is so cool. I'm really happy you're working for it. I really do hope that your determination and hardwork leads to an amazing resume which impresses MIT. Good luck in your journey and never give up :). I hope one day we both get into MIT and experience the happiness of that accomplishment.
@@noor-rj7lj Best of luck to you Noor I hope we both get all the achievements that we hope for and get admission at mit one day inshallah.
Indians have a very great accent. How did he manage Olympiad along with JEE? Will you choose IIT-Delhi over IIT-Bombay?
American indian
Indian
One of the most smartest people 🥲
@@crustacean-zp5uj american indian
Im indian too
There is a lot of difference in the culture
Being pure Indian and Being American Indian
Also google the average Indian iq
These are the top 0.00000001% of the population
@@crustacean-zp5uj I think Chinese beat them. But at Nobel prizes white beat them.
Rishabh really scammed his way to MIT
I'm not going to MIT
Brain dead comment
This is not what a prodigy is compromising other aspects of growth like sports social interaction just to win a olympiad medal almost all of interests are in mental tasks where is the physical growth secondly olympiad mathematics is a false indicator of future success in professional math let him win a fields medal or a Turing award what he achieves professionally is what matters all these competitions are just time pass .Herb Simon was a political science PhD got a turing and nobel raj reddy was a civil engineer won a turing revolutionised robotics and speech so the ones who turn out to be ultra successful in actually shaping fields never bothered about this jugglery
There are multiple IMO students who won these types of awards later in their careers. Clearly, it is a positive indicator of math success.
@@RishabJainK Mr Rishab I might not live a privileged American life like you but we in third World countries are not illiterate dolts .The way professional math works is completely different from these contests I have interacted with a lot of top mathematicians in my country one of my close friend who had achieved national success in olympiad is currently doing his PhD in algebraic geometry in a top University in your country it might be incidental that some of the fields medallists did well in these competitions but there are others who have bucked the trend and never had any exposure to olympiads Ed witten was the only physicist to win a fields medal he majored in economics or something no exposure to competition math there are tons of great professional mathematicians cs seshadri narasimhan cr rao (all time legend)who didnt engage in this even Terence tao has blogged about this extensively and how math is different kind of a endeavour take Jun Huh for example guy was lost during his undergrad took 6 years to complete and then went on to win a fields medal for his work in combinatorics
@@RishabJainK also tell your friend to play some sports go karting equestrian whatever all work and no play makes jack a dull boy
@@tejassuresh8221 Half of last year’s Fields Medalists were IMO/math olympiad competitors. I think that’s a pretty strong trend. Might not be a causation, but clearly, competitors like Ram are on the right path to achieve brilliance in their respective areas of interest. Being a top 0.x%er is a strong indicator for future success in any discipline. This is an interesting phenomenon that has been studied extensively. It’s the same reason why these medalists are recruited by top firms in finance.
Look, the big difference between Olypiad math success and professional math success is one has answers and the other, no one knows. In Professional math, mathematicians are solving problems that no answers exist. In essence, they are creating new math. In Olympiad math, it's all about the clever applyication of known techniques to yield known results in a short amount of time. Professional math has no time limit and the problems have no known solutions. So no, Olympiad success does not automatically translate to professional math success as they are two very different things. Yes, it's true that many IMO winners/participants find professional success but there is no direct link because the two are very different. Terrence Tao himself is an IMO winner and he clearly sees the difference having won IMO medals and the Fields medal. They are two totally different beasts requiring different disciplines. IMO problems are based on existing techniques. In professional math, the techniques to solve a problem may not yet exist as Terrence Tao points out so solving it is pretty much slim to none at best. This is why IMO success doesn't necessarily translate to professional math success.
Hi,can i get you or his email address,ive been struggling with some assignments
The approach these two indians take to math is problematic and misleading, they consider math as puzzle solving games which can be applied to different studies. While for anyone who took undergraduate/graduate mathematics courses wouldn't agree with such point of view.