Hi all, I know gadgets have there place on bikes but do you think they make the ride better or just distract from the fun of riding? all comments welcome.
Keep it simple, enjoy the bike and not the foolish electronics i think they have done the right thing, would love to see them make a Rocket Gold Star , RGS, it would be a twin then,.
This BSA is a breath of fresh air, a big single cylinder motorcycle with just enough parts to bring back the reason we ride in the first place. I have ridden over 50 years on twins ,fours turing bikes. I'm tired of over heavy bikes that strain you to handle at low speeds, nice to see one getting back to baciscs,I'm thinking of getting one when I can.
652cv is lite compared to Japanese bikes that weigh more than 550 lbs in middle weight class. In the 60's a 650cc would weigh around 390 lbs. Everything gets heavier over time, so yes I do think 470 lbs is lite. My current bike is a 2016 Indian Cheif which weighs 835 lbs. Under powered? A big single that is what this BSA is and at 652CC is only tuned at present for a broad spred of power. It is enough for those of us who have had bikes with 3 times current HP. You don't need 130 HP to enjoy motorcycling at its best. That BSA is a torquer that's it's strength it isn't as lazy as might be thought of unless you are coming off a bike with a hundred or more HP, like I did. That single cylinder motor is a double over head cam design, so I let an exhaust is separate an can be timed broader , or closer or anything in between. A single over head cam design is 1 cam shaft with both inlet cam and exhaust cam on same shaft. Double over head cam you have 1,inlet cam on 1shaft and 1exhaust cam on one shaft, for double over head cam. That BSA engine has somewhere around a probable 88 HP. It's all in how it is timed. It probably won't be as smoothe as now running with racier running. Anyway it's is said to have a top speed of 100mph, that is enough for any strength highway. It won't be pleasant going over 75mph as wind blast an bugs will plaster your helmet mask, worse without Helmut. If you can get one just ride it, enjoy it for what it is a bike with good gas milage, smoothe running easy to handle an enough weight to not get blowed all over the road as lighter bikes do. And one other consideration, Insurance which will be much less than my Indian.
@@williamallen374 My current bike is a 2016 KTM 690 Duke, 360 pounds wet and 69 HP. Over the last 35 years I've owned many other big singles including DR650, Dakar (3 of them), SRX600, SR500 (3 of them), XR600, XR500. Obviously, I have a fondness for big singles. Other multi-cylinder street bikes, well another 50 or so of many different marks going back 50 years Point out a Japanese middle displacement bike made in the last 10 years that weighs 550 pounds. Or 500 pounds. Or 470 pounds. I'll mention one, the Suz Weestrom 650 at about 475. But that's an adventure bike, and a pretty wheezy one. The SV650 was more like 440 pounds. And all of these bikes have more like 60-80 HP. Which means they can at least get out of their own way. This Goldie has 46 brake HP, maybe 38-40 at the rear wheel. And carrying an extra hundred pounds over a typical bike of that power means it will be pretty doggie. That's what it comes with, which is pretty much end of story. Any bike can be stripped and turned into a fire breather with enough money and trouble but that will be maybe one in a hundred for a duffer bike like this. A little extra torque at low RPM is a nice kick in the pants puttin around town, but it's horsepower that gets the job done. But in this case I don't think it's going to feel all that grunty, that 470 pounds you know.
Proper Bike for proper bikers.I,m 70 years old now - been on a bike most of my life and still am.This style of bike obviously is from my era and looks like a bike should do.From A to B with a massive smile on the face,what more could you want.
I'm 68. Same here. Triumphs, Norton, Matchless, BSA's, BMWs, Harley's. Have a 88 dyna now. Good bike, but it's no Norton Commando. Keep riding brother, it keeps us young!
It's a beautiful bike. I only wonder why they didn't keep with the original 500cc air cooled motor. I get that they were trying to compete with the interceptor and continental, but they would be filing a hole in the market for a 500cc single, since Royal Enfield stopped producing the 500 classic last year. I was lucky enough to purchase one of the last classic 500s, and I love it. I really like the look of the new gold star, just the water cooled motor bothers me a bit, doesn't make it any simpler. More maintenance and things to go wrong, it's going to cost you more money in the future and potentially a lot more trouble. Time will tell, I hope they last the distance. But how many people like me will be waiting a year or two before even thinking of buying one?
Glad to see BSA (Birmingham Small Arms) is coming back to life. I had three in the sixties, 350 single, 500 & 650 Twins all blue. Not a Gold Star! The oil lines were exposed at that time and my oil line crimped in a Canadian Trip I took with my brother. The engine ceased and had to be rebored. It was repaired during an overnight stay on Prince Edward Island. It broke down again going home and I had to put in a thick oil additive to keep it running until I got home. Had to have it rerepaired. I still loved those bikes, but wish the new one was a twin! Good luck with this one. Now I have a 1991 Sporster 1200, Yellow, a 2014 Roadglide anniversary addition, brown and a 2014 Indian Vintage, red. I went cross country inn 1973 on a BMW R69US and loved that bike too. I am so glad BSA is coming back to us. Brings back a lot of memories.
I believe the ride & handling are much more important than updated electronics. The headlight is very important because the more illumination, the better. I'm anxious to test ride one & can't wait!
Simplicity, character, and value for money matter most to me. Something that transports you in mind to simpler times, to when there was less bullshit and more authenticity. That's why I love my RE Continental GT 650. It's captured the essence of an era I haven't had the privilege of experiencing firsthand.
My first bike was a thunderbolt 650. Having never road a motorcycle in my life, I took a chance. I had gotten back from spending 397 days in Vietnam and I wasn’t too concerned about my safety. It wasn’t a very fast bike but it had tons of character. I had that bike for about ten years. We were expecting our first child and my wife didn’t want me to ride anymore. So I didn’t. I’m glad to see the BSA logo again.
The very fact it’ll lack all the electronic whistles and bells will probably be it’s biggest advantage as far as sales go. People want simple and affordable.
Peter. If you want simple and affordable, try and track down an old Yamaha SR500. That's a simple, single cylinder machine. Quite rare now though. I believe Yamaha still sells a 400cc version.
@@dave6467 Who wants that...have fun trying to get parts let alone jacked up prices for an OLD motorcycle better to get current with all the back up l say...
@@imwatchingyou6113 Yep, that's part of the experience of owning a classic motorcycle. You either want a classic motorcycle or you don't. My point with this and similar bikes is just that they're fake. People owning them want to believe they own a classic but it's nothing of the sort. Where's the credibility? I've owned some classic bikes and yes they're harder to ride and look after, but the upside is the experience they give you. That said, I know I'm in the mInority on this and there are a lot more people who like these fake bikes, than dislike them.
@@dave6467 They're not fake, they're built the way old farts like me want bikes built. I don't pretend my Interceptor is a classic. I like that it's not a plastic crotch rocket.
Had a good look round them at the NEC and I'm really impressed. Sitting on them gave a really feel good feeling. I've always ridden older bikes so modern technology isn't for me. Abs is sensible and the USB and power socket is a practical addition. Can't wait to ride one!
@@peterwilliams2152 er, yes, I realise that, but it's still a practical bit of tech to have, whether it's compulsory or not. And it's only compulsory for over 125cc. You can just have linked brakes under that, which are dangerous.
Hey Bob first of all thanks for watching the review and your comment 😀 The bike was definatly a big draw at the Show, and i think just like you lots of people wil want to get on it when it arrives. until next time stay upright Bob Bobbymax
Great to see an old school real bike being built again, this bike is beautiful and stunning, great to also see there are none of these rider modes on this bike you don't need any of these fancy rider modes, can't wait to see this bike in dealers, and can't wait to test ride it
I remember my BSA as a lot of fun, but also I remember several hours of maintenance each week to keep it in adjustment and to keep things from shaking off. I hope the electrics are better, I had to turn off the headlight to get enough spark to pass cars. My Hondas were hit the starter and ride, refuel, repeat. Also, this is a Mahindra, not a BSA. I've had a Stella scooter for 18 years, made in India, and it runs fine and gives no problems, so they know how to make things over there.
Being the age i am i remember well riding motorcycles with a big single cylinder engines, Velocette, BSA, Royal Enfield, AJS etc. and what a wonderful thing they were. Torquey, simple and generally a more relaxed loping ride due mainly to the longer piston stroke they generally had. I hope the new Gold Star has retained the under square long stroke engine dimensions of the old bikes, if so, it should be a winner.
Cannot agree more. Either you ride for enjoyment and love, or you ride a computer that can kill you easily. Sheer simplistic riding for me has always been key. I am impressed.
I'm a seventy year old 2001 750 Honda shadow rider. Back in the seventy's I rode my two 650 BSA's. (1963 thunderbolt chopper and 1968 Lightning) I love that the BSA brand is coming back. I'm not sure if another bike is in my future but if it is I will more than just consider the new Gold Star
I am grateful to see BSA back in the motorcycle market. Though not exactly an English bike, it comes close and as for being made in India, I am proud of the Indians for making progress with their industries.
I’m just fascinated to see what riding a 652cc single cylinder bike will be like. Apart from ABS I don’t think my current bike, a Honda CB500F has any rider assist gadgets. Good to hear this one doesn’t either.
Hi Andrew, nice to see you back at the channel, I guess sometimes its better to not have to worry about the electronics as it brings extra hassle if it goes wrong. Until next time Andy stay upright mate
It is not a BSA it is not a gold star it's an Indian maid Faker with a British name that was bought out no connection to the company no connection to England no nothing just bullshit on top of bullshit everybody raving about how great to buy kids and nobody can get one to go on a ride and nobody can find out what a price is going to be it is no much of a gold star as a Yamaha or a Kawasaki KLR 650 street bike dressed up in retro clothes and all these guys and rant and Rave about it Lexia put their money where their mouth is
Try the KTM Duke 690. It's also a 650+ single cylinder thumper... And screamer... :-P I got one for a bit more than 4000 euros with 7000 kilometres and it makes me 50 years younger... ;-)
When ROYAL ENFIELD WAS OFFERING A 500 SINGLE without any rider assist just dual channel abs till 2019, did you even dare to ride them forget even purchasing them, and you are FASCINATED 😂
I love the Goldie but have to dispute your assertion that "it's the most iconic British bike" IMO the most iconic British bike is the Triumph Bonneville, though an argument could be made for the Norton Commando.
Indian Market for Retro styled bikes is spicing up with the introduction of affordable bikes like Jawa 42, Benelli Imperiale & Honda Highness & now BSA Gold Star. Royal Enfield was the only one company for more than 2 decades, now surely they are going have a tough competition. Peace✌️ Edit : Even Yezdi has arrived now to the Indian Market.
Thank God for India I say! I love what you guys are doing to bring back the classic brands, done with sympathy and integrity, preserving the original asthetic and style. Just love it.
@@michealrcnicholson9342 , @Vaibhav Patil Mahindra- the giant behind the revival of Jawa & BSA is reviving another Indian retro motorcycle brand called Yezdi. Happy news for Indians 🤑🤑🤑
@@amalkumar2775 Yezdi & Jawa were from same brand right? Due to Jawa ending their partnership with Ideal Jawa (India ) & shutting its operations in India in 1973, they changed the names of bikes to Yezdi.
I think it would be fun simply to ride on a nice afternoon. As a person of some age, I can appreciate the simplicity of the design. I can see owning one just for the nostalgic value.
I have watched a lot of UA-cam reviews on this bike, and by far this is the best one so far. I wish BSA all the luck with this bike as it looks like it is going to be a success, I haven't heard a bad word about it. Just have to wait for the road test. AUS
The new BSA looks stunning. I have always enjoyed big thumpers and I own several. There is no greater joy for me than a canyon ride on a machine that insists you engage it's mechanicals to achieve complete satisfaction with the experience. You don't need to scrape the pegs to have a good time if your greatest pleasure is listening to the engine rev on a long uphill pull. I'm wondering which dealerships will handle this new model.
I think they've done a nice job of the desing of the bike, the only thing I'm not keen on looks wise is the seam/trim around the bottom of the fuel tank, the original BSA tanks look so much neater
I did a 250 mile round trip to the Bike Show at the NEC to see this bike; the examples on the BSA stand looked to be beautifully designed, excellently built, and very nicely finished. I am truly impressed, I even (unsuccessfully) tried pumping Bal Ghataore (Design Manager) for a hint at the price point - all he would say is 'it will be sensible'. I would be very surprised if it's anywhere near as low as the £5k you suggest; I think they will be pitching it higher than that, as I believe they will aim to fit between RE & Triumph. As far as your video goes, it really hasn't bought anything to the party for me - a prospective buyer - I'm sorry, but unless you are basically in the pay of BSA, at the moment - when no-one outside of BSA has had a chance to ride the machine - there is no way that you can conclude and title this video 'Why it's the better choice'. It could turn out to be a complete dog (though I certainly hope not). Also I physically winced when I saw the banner saying "Break Horses'........ look up what a dynamometer (also called a 'brake') is and how it is used.
I once bought a bullet in India it was junk and i had to take all the gearing and brakes from the UK. In the log book from new it said, "all warranties are void if driven over 40 mph. I just loved that Bike. Happiest times in my life popping around foot hills with no brakes.
I have a BSA 441 Victor I love the bike but I prefer my 250 in the dirt. My 250 is much easier to kick-start. They are such beautiful motorcycles to look at and they are so functional as well. Back when motorcycles were as nice to look at as they rode.
Looks great, definitely worth looking at in a year or two when the initial bugs are ironed out. No need for electronics on a bike of this style or power, and they're the first things to die in any case!
I have an RE Interceptor and Triumph Tiger. The first for the sher pleasure of uncomplicated bike riding. The other to give me an alternate feel to riding. Both apply. The uncomplicated and the tech loaded have their own values. So its a matter of choice and pattern & purpose of riding that apply. Uncomplicated is refreshing after the last three decades of complicated tech growth.
I’m so glad that British bikes are back! My grandfather used to talk about BSA, Triumph and Norton when I was a youngster. We only really had Japanese bikes when I was learning to ride.
I'm 70 and going on 16 after absorbing the new Goldstar .My singles were a 1968 Ducati 250 Scrambler and a Suzuki LS 650 Savage.Nothing else compares to a big single piston engine thumping between your legs and brain.I longed for a old school style version rather than a cruiser and more power.This is that and I have a renewed enthusiasm for the sport that had faded over the 10 years since selling the Savage.I am clearly obsessed .I've even contacted several Royal Enfield dealers to see if they will distribute this gem in the USA.That would be a perfect stablemate for the Interceptor twin 650.The discontinuation of the R.E. 500 single was perfect timing and the dealer network is in place.Why reinvent a new network? I thought about getting another Savage in the interim of non-availability of the Goldstar but don't want to risk life and limb before that beautiful dream appears in my driveway.I was mildly excited by the Duke 690 and the Svartpilen but was not keen on the motocross appearance.The Vitpilen was a beauty but the riding position was a deal breaker.Happiness is only a Goldstar away.It's good to dream about the future again.
Takes me back to early to mid-1960s. I had a BSA Lighting, seemed to need an hour of service for an hour of riding, but I absolutely loved that bike. Traded for a Norton Atlas (I think that was to model). Both were freedom machines.
I too had a Silver Chrome BSA Lightening back in 1970. However, youll remember that these bike power to weight ratio was their undoing. I mean if you were skinny or shortish & light weight, then the bike needed only to carry its own weight plus your own personal weight considered, this would then be a great performance bike!(@@)
I have a BMW 650cc single( 3 in the family ) and we all love them , I will be adding a goldy to the list if the pricing is right but forget it if dearer than a RE 650cc
Very nice indeed and just the kind of machine I've been looking for. Funny how things change isn't it? When I started riding trailbikes in the 70's, I longed for sports bikes. The type you sometimes saw kitted out with clipons, farings, hard seat and uncomfortably cramped riding position etc. The style I wished for then, later became the standard theme for nearly all roadbikes. Now I long for those simple 70's bikes again. Funny old world innit?
Hey Mark first of all thanks for watching the review and your comment 😀 Yes we are a funny on breed, what we haven't got we want, and what we once had but didn't appreciate we now long for. Anyway untill next time Mark stay upright Bobby. M
I still have a 1955 BSA A-10 that I restored to a show winner back in 1986 , it lives in my garage only being ridden around 6 miles to the shows and back home , I wish I could ride it more but because of a back injury it now sits along with a few other of my bikes . I always wanted a Goldstar and even though t s not the same thing as this new bike I now have the chance to buy one and park it next to what will now be "Grandma" , The new bike is sharp and I'm glad they kept it simple , my bike is a "pre-unit" and can run even without a battery , the spark is done with no electronics but with a magneto like on a lawnmower and the lights are done with a 6-volt positive ground generator , it has no ignition key so to keep people from riding off remove the brushes out of the magneto and put them in my pocket , it does have a steering lock , that old bike is bulletproof and will still be going in the next 67 years . The only major issue it has had was a blown oil pump , everything is original down to the 6 volt lightbulbs being of 1950s vintage except for the paint , I kept it black with red pinstripes around the chrome on its tank ( no stupid-looking racing stripes ) . I hope that the new BSA comes out with a sidecar model , that would be cool .
I hope this becomes available in the States. As I get older, I find the big bikes harder to manage and I'm planning on unloading my Road King and King Pin in a couple of years. I'll keep riding my XL1200 Roadster, Triumph America, VMAX1200, and my Guzzi 1000 Cali. I was considering a RE Interceptor, but I might hold off and see what this BSA is like. I like the fact that they plan on keeping this bike simple. I like simple. No unnecessary electronics would be just fine with me.
Well done, for mentioning the twin counterbalacers. Are they gear driven and does the bike also have hydraulic tappets ? That'd make it really low maintenance.
This is going to appeal to the same demographic as the Enfield, so keeping it simple was the right way to go I think. If they can price at or near your predictions they should get a healthy chunk of RE's market.
Hey roum, first of all thanks for your comment and watching the review, and yes your definatly right about the RE demographic. Hope to see you on the next review, stay upright mate Bobbymax
If they step into the American market with a machine that is tight, then that will give RE a run. Many of us who bought the 500 cc Bullet did not walk away from the experience loving the company, and their response was, "Sorry about that." Imagine taking $7,000+ dollars and just setting it on fire. For this rider, that was exactly what it was. BSA has a shot at the Enfield Market in the States, and I for one hope they go for it.
@@timothyahernRoxyCat personally I can't see how people can spend the money that they spend on a new bike when they could get much more of a bike used. For $7,000 you can get a nicely restored British bike that not only looks good but has been mechanically restored and or updated with after-market parts that were better than original Factory parts. And there are low-mileage B still out there waiting to be found. Last year I got a beautiful 1964 BSA Starfire 250. 6000 original miles, matching numbers, everything works. With such low mileage you know nothing has been bothered with half drunk idiots who think they know what they're doing. The old Royal Enfield that was the bullet was the real deal. Like the Ural motorcycle sidecar outfit it was basically a decades-old design still produced it has low power because the market needed reliability overspeed. If Shane somebody was still producing the Model T Ford and you bought one and you try to drive it on the freeway in the fast lane until the motor exploded that's not the car's fault that your fault. To me the new Royal Enfield motor is the same as a Suzuki Savage 650 single motor or a Yamaha sr400 motor they are all good Motors and the sr400 is the real thing downsized that I knew in high school. And the Suzuki Savage will be almost 30 years old soon. The new Triumph has nothing to do with the old Triumph and they made that perfectly clear when they bought the name separating themselves from Meriden. They made Kawasaki copies under license 4-cylinder super bikes that had no relationship to the parallel twins the old Triumph company produced. It wasn't until they established themselves as a producer of modern motorcycles that they brought out the Bonneville retro twin. And it was more like an alternative to the rest of the line that they produced. When Triumph was made in England that was one thing, but now since they make all of their bikes in Thailand and all of their parts in Taiwan other than the name that they have on the side of the gas tank that's the only thing British on the motorcycle. Now they charge a made in England price for a made in Thailand motorcycle what's in a name eh?
WOW! This is an amazing piece of art. I ride a 2010 Triumph America pre gadget, bells and whistle's. Wouldn't have it any other way. I would buy the BSA in a heartbeat. Way to go.
Very attractive bike!! I appreciate the lack of electronic controls. I favor simplicity & a pure, uncomplicated ride, where the rider learns to deal with variances & road conditions as part of his course in mastering a particular bike. I had a new 2017 Tri. T120. Gorgeous retro-style & finish, but so much tech & smoothness that lost its 'soul' as compared to my 60's Bonnevilles. So I sold it after 11 mos. I'd like to see BSA bring back a parallel twin Lightning, keeping it simple, perhaps in the 750-900cc range. Meanwhile, I may consider an 865cc Hinckley T100.
It’s all going to come down to that engine. It seems to be another version of the total 652cc single made originally by Rotax for Aprilia and BMW. Same capacity, 5 speed box, Dohc, 4 valves and twin plugs. It won’t be a patch on the RE twins for nvh and overall performance. Probably more of a way back machine akin to the RE singles.
Agree with this and whilst it will have much more power than the new Enfield 350 Classic will that be enough to offset the significant extra cost and the dubious aesthetics of the radiator and oversized exhaust pipe?
A few people have commented that the Meteor 350 is a bit feeble, and would like a 450/500 version, so maybe this will suit them. Big singles have just never sold well in recent times, so I'm not holding my breath - I think 350 is the sweet spot for singles, (eg SRX400) whereas the bigger singles are less comfortable and still quite slow.
a thoroughly modern interpretation of the GoldStar of old. Still, a very nice bike and probably a huge PITA for Enfield, which left the big thumper market wide open when they retired the Classic 500.
As an ex BSA 1956 gold flash Plunger model owner, I like the fact that it has no electronics except for what it actually needs, To many bells and whistles are just something extra to go wrong.
Looks great and well done you all for the Retro reincarnation! I had a BSA Bantam 175 in the 70's as a student and still regret parting with it; having stripped it for a piston fracture and reconstucted it myself. Agree with another comment that the radiator is a bit of an eye-sore but probably necessary for liquid cooling - could it be better hidden? Otherwise looks great. Do you intend to to a Bantam model?
Just beautiful! Looks like the curb weight of the new Gold Star will be about 213 KG, or 469 LBS. The Triumph T120 weighs a stated 226 KG, but has almost double the displacement and nearly twice the torque and power. I'm not sure that a 600cc single-cylinder, mid-weight bike will sell very well but wishing BSA every success.
My first new bike was a 1970 Triumph T100C, weighing in at 340#. Outside of oil leaks and kinda underpowered, it sure was fun on the twisty back roads.
L.O.L. wait until they try to kick start these things. L.O.L. Dunno whether they have valve lifters these days, allowing decompression for starting as they did in the "old" days. You had to get it right within a couple of kicks otherwise you'd break a leg.
Yea bit of tank isn't it? My BMW 650 single weighs 350lbs and kicks out 52 HP. The air cooled Ducati 800 Scrambler is far lighter. Guess it will appeal to the old farts Sunday rider brigade. 😀
This is the big single I've been waiting for. Wish Harley or Indian had done it first, and BSA was only my third favorite Brit bike in the 60s but that's OK. Only one worry for me. I've had several 650cc Suzuki Savage over the last couple of decades, and they come in at less than 400lbs wet weight. Looks like this new BSA is more than 50lbs heavier, even heavier than the original Gold Star. But to it's credit, it does produce half again more HP at 45 compared to the Suzuki's paltry 33HP. Hope Mirhandra uses it's existing tractor dealer network when/if they come to the USA as that would mean many dealers already here. BTW, I'm in the 'no gadgets' demographic.
Love that union jack on the tank. My uncle had a 500 when I was growing up. Rode on the back when I was about 8 or 9. Now I'm mounting a 2016 Indian Springfield but it might be nice to also have a smaller bike to tool around on!
BSA needs to hide that radiator a little better. More sweep on the exhaust like a traditional Gold Star. Looking forward to a full line up of future classic bikes like a Lightning and Rocket 3! Keep it simple and clean and it will sell like crazy.
I'd imagine the radiator is as minimal as they could manage, and the bike certainly doesn't need bodywork to hide it. As with Triumph's "Modern Classics," the big finned cylinder and beautiful tank will draw attention away from it.
I Totally agree with you , the rad should be swapped out with a more freer flowing thinner radiator , but I've got to say it hasn't put me off if they come in on price I'm going for It !
The more I hear about this bike the more interested I am in seeing it. For many years I've looked at old Goldies people I know in the collector market own, and how fast and light they are when riding with these people. I've owned a few big singles, and they're bikes you can really fall in love with, one was a BSA 441 Victor, light and quick. Likely going to take a while for these to make it to US shores, but I'll wait. I'm really glad to see India stepping in and doing so well building these updated classic british bikes, and going to be waiting to see what else their BSA line are going to bring us!
I love the look of the bike, but having ridden motorcycles for over 45 years, I've found that going back in time isn't always what it seems. While bikes like my 78 KZ1000 Kawasaki on modern tires and with improved suspension and brakes seems terrific on today's roads, some of the others in my collection do not stand up to the memory I had of them in the day., including the one Triumph and BSA I own. I'd like to ride one of these, but I don't know that a single cylinder motorcycle even with the many modern improvements would suit me in 2021, despite my age I've moved with the times and am simply used to more power and refinement than I was in my youth, so I'm not sure a 650 single could cut it for me. I am however very excited to see the BSA name reborn, I hope they succeed, the problem I see for this model is the number of people still alive and fit enough to want to enjoy this sort of nostalgia, which will inevitably impact overall sales.
@@sumedhshinde8096 That might be a while, they'd have to get to the US and then there be a dealership close on hand, I can see them being available in time through my local BMW/Triumph/Ducati dealership, but I suspect that's some way off.
As a previous owner/rider of a BSA myself, I find the FACT that the lubrication issue of this engine being totally ignored as a serious downer. The original BSA bikes were a DRY SUMP, in other words oil did not acummilate in the sump, (which they didn't have anyway,) only a small depression where the oil pump was able to pick up the oil and pump it back to the OIL TANK, fitted under and to the side of the seat. This system created serious issues with oil leaks as the components of the engine cases were split verticly and oil passages passed from one side to the other and thus leaks developed over time. The Japanese brought in horizontal split crank cases where there were no cracks or splits to develop oil leaks, and the sump stayed full of oil, no oil tank external. So,, we can see this issue is quiet important, yet not a peep for prospective buyers. Does not do the sales pitch, IMHO any good.
Hey itchyvet, first of all thanks for watching the review and your comment.....it looks like you clearly know your stuff, apart from the oil leeks if you were in the same position again with what you know now would you have still bought one 🤔
Curiously asking . Wasn't the dry sump engine better in terms of keeping the oil cooler and keeping the viscosity intact . That by pumping it away from the hot engine cooling it down and bringing it back- thereby increasing efficiency!
@@RoadRashTV NO ! When I sold it, I purchased a Japanese bike, (frowned upon in those days) 4 cylinders, 500 cc's smooth as a swiss watch, went like the clappers and NEVER, EVER leaked oil. Did a trip in our Pilbara area with it, and found the oil couldn't handle the heat, (CASTROL) fitted and oil cooler, never looked back. Did 200,000 K's with it, before I sold it. Replaced it with a Honda V twin, water cooled, shaft drive. Electronic ignition. Was good reliable smooth bike, but had no soul, like the 500, 4.
@@JJ-zh2xd Never did find any cooler oil with the separate oil tank, but it did make oil changes simple, quick and clean. Fitting an oil cooler would also have been a breeze, IF neccessary.
I rode BSA back in the day. I loved em. It's not a BSA but, I like the way it looks, I like that it's a big single and I like that it has no rider aids. It's a nice looking bike for old gits like me.
If they are going to use a rotax motor to power the so-called new PS a gold star I wish they used the old air-cooled rubber cam Drive motor that they used in the reissued matchless that came out in the late 80s or 90s I don't remember. That bike was much nicer looking and the engine fit the bike. It was a good-looking motorcycle. And when attached to a Jawa sidecar it looked pretty cool. Much nicer looking than the so-called new PS a gold star.
Well done for mentioning the balance shafts, this is the first review to mention that. The LCD display is still a mystery, fuel gauge? trip meters? The front pipe thing is a cover that hides the pipe and the cat.
Thanks Dinsdaleand, and yes your right the but im not sure weather having a pipe cover is a good thin or a bad idea 🤔 Anyway stay until next time stay upright D P Bobbymax
Great looking bikes that will sell big time…. if projected price is accurate ! Would like to have heard it run…. especially with an aftermarket silencer . The only gadget needed is the USB port. Well done! Can’t wait to test ride one!
Priced as you suggest this will be a winner. They just need to respond to widespread negative feedback about the size of the radiator and the bulk of the header pipe.
Bobby, can't really disagree with you. I think the design/styling is spot on. These are pre production bikes that we are seeing so hopefully they will do something about that crude looking radiator and the pipes/tubes/wires around it. They need to tidy that up. The brushed steel exhaust looks nice but oversized. There seems to some black paint the brushed steel which can be seen from some angles. That looks tacky.
Hey Raj, first of all thanks for your comment and watching the review, and yes I noticed the bikes were a bit rough around the edges in some places, Until next time Raj stay upright mate Bobbymax
Yes I don't disagree, the cumbersome radiator only adds to the routing, and shape of the exhaust header pipe which definitely spoils the look of a good looking motorcycle otherwise. And compared to other multi cyclinder motorcycles, the radiators framing looks a bit on the large size.
No rider aids is the way to go in my book. Btw are you sure it has chrome rims? I hope they do tuning parts so we can fiddle with it like a proper biker, it's suggested up to 90hp is hiding in that engine :)
Hey Barrie first of all thanks for watching 👀..lots of comments about about the ugly rad hopefully it won't fall on deaf ears and they will do something about it before it comes to market.
I used to own and rebuilt BSAs (America). I think this model is perfect! I waited years for this rollout. I'm probably too old to think about getting one, however! I would like to HEAR one running, please!
I agree with Bobby, no new age electronics. Let's give back motorcycles the character they once lost with the boom of superbikes. Thanks for putting up this video. Cheers.
Think the Vincent Black Shadow is much more iconic so your initial premises is B/S. Most people who have never ridden a bike wouldn't be able to tell you what a Goldstar was. This is a 'pretender bike', with totally unknown characteristics and price - nobody has ridden it, or even heard the bloody thing run, could be the biggest POS going - just don't know that yet. Its from an unkown manufacturer, with an unknown dealership network, with unkown customer aftercare support. You are being blinded by a bought badge and a appropriated name and marketing b/s that trades on a heritage that this new firm does not have. Your pricing predictions are way too low, from what I've heard from people who visited the stand and managed after a while to screw some kind of indication out of the sales people -you'll be looking at 7K ish...
@@soaruk3697 Mahindra sell (and build) Jawa retros in India. Massivekly successful company so the BSA comes from their "Heritage stable" and will storm the market just as RE is now doing dominating it's sector in the UK
Mahindra has won this kind of rodeo before. As for after sales support - I'll predict build quality negates it. Its 2022, and with no operational time machines - how do we expect more than pretend?.
Sat on this at NEC and was pleasantly surprised how roomy it was for my 6'2" frame. Dare I say it, much better than either of RE's 650's in that regard.
Keeping it as simple as possible is definitely my preference. The ubiquitous modern classics fail in this regard. Wish they had kept it to air-cooled . . . at this engine size it would have been entirely doable. The radiator just kills the looks. Won't buy it for this reason alone.
Having starting out with UJMs I am a fan of air-cooled machines, liquid cooling has been around for so long that it is the dominant norm. Heck, even the Wright brothers used a water-cooled gasoline engine on their history making Flyer back at the turn of the last century! Triumph does a very nice job of incorporating the radiator IMHO.
People say it needed water-cooling for emissions reasons Royal Enfield two motorcycles are air-cooled. The Suzuki Savage is air-cooled and still has a carburetor and when I last checked we're about $8,000. There was an article in classic bike magazine where a guy took a Suzuki Savage and put alloy tank seat and pipes on the motorcycle and it looked really good like a big single from the 50s or 60s with a cafe racer Style.
At 7000 lb I guess that would be 9,000 American dollars that's a lot of money. Even the Suzuki gn400 which was an enlarged Street version of one of their 4-stroke dirt bike kick only of course, and it had cast wheels and disc brakes on the front.
There are MORE than enough gadget laiden rolling computers out there sporting giantic price tags to pay for all the gizmos. Motorsickles are engines with wheels SPOKE wheels and analog instruments. They're supposed to handle we'll stop well and supply a good speed rush when properly urged to do so. At least Thats what I require from mine but I've only been ridin 58 years.....
Betcha appreciate electric start, indicators an' lack of points, though, eh? Mind you - shoulda kept the kick start. Same as cars - dumping the starting handle was a bad move. The rest of the electoshit is bollox.
That made my heart go thump thump! 8) I was in High School in the late 60's and worked 2 jobs to buy a new BSA 441 Victor, the "scrambler" version of the Gold Star. With its polished aluminum and yellow tank and black frame it was beautiful!! I'll even forgive the nasty scar it left on my leg from not pulling the compression release properly! LOL I 'thumped' along 10k miles on that old girl! Loved every mile! It took a year to re-learn how to shift on the left properly, not right! LOL Some things get in your head early are hard to change. 8) I hope they make the Victor 441, but I doubt it. Memories.... 8) --gary
45 Horse Power and only 100mph, sounds like a tubby machine to me. Overweight and overpriced for that performance. Why don't we set up a Goldie Challenge, when the Isle of Man TT races begin in 2022, and put a REAL Goldie clubman in a race with the new pretender ? One lap each on closed roads. Should be fun.
Hi all, I know gadgets have there place on bikes but do you think they make the ride better or just distract from the fun of riding? all comments welcome.
I do not believe they make the ride better and I do believe they distract from the charm of the bike.
No music, no abs, no dct, I like heated grips, GPS and fuel gage!
Let's ride!
Keep it simple, enjoy the bike and not the foolish electronics i think they have done the right thing, would love to see them make a Rocket Gold Star , RGS, it would be a twin then,.
Keep it simple and it will be more reliable, that’s just me,after all I’m just a analog guy living in a digital world.
My bike has 220hp and no rider aids, no ABS, TC, ride modes, none! All you need is 2 wheels and an engine, maybe a seat.
This BSA is a breath of fresh air, a big single cylinder motorcycle with just enough parts to bring back the reason we ride in the first place. I have ridden over 50 years on twins ,fours turing bikes. I'm tired of over heavy bikes that strain you to handle at low speeds, nice to see one getting back to baciscs,I'm thinking of getting one when I can.
You think 470 pounds wet is light? Seems heavy and underpowered to me.
652cv is lite compared to Japanese bikes that weigh more than 550 lbs in middle weight class. In the 60's a 650cc would weigh around 390 lbs. Everything gets heavier over time, so yes I do think 470 lbs is lite. My current bike is a 2016 Indian Cheif which weighs 835 lbs. Under powered? A big single that is what this BSA is and at 652CC is only tuned at present for a broad spred of power. It is enough for those of us who have had bikes with 3 times current HP. You don't need 130 HP to enjoy motorcycling at its best. That BSA is a torquer that's it's strength it isn't as lazy as might be thought of unless you are coming off a bike with a hundred or more HP, like I did. That single cylinder motor is a double over head cam design, so I let an exhaust is separate an can be timed broader , or closer or anything in between. A single over head cam design is 1 cam shaft with both inlet cam and exhaust cam on same shaft. Double over head cam you have 1,inlet cam on 1shaft and 1exhaust cam on one shaft, for double over head cam. That BSA engine has somewhere around a probable 88 HP. It's all in how it is timed. It probably won't be as smoothe as now running with racier running. Anyway it's is said to have a top speed of 100mph, that is enough for any strength highway. It won't be pleasant going over 75mph as wind blast an bugs will plaster your helmet mask, worse without Helmut. If you can get one just ride it, enjoy it for what it is a bike with good gas milage, smoothe running easy to handle an enough weight to not get blowed all over the road as lighter bikes do. And one other consideration, Insurance which will be much less than my Indian.
@@williamallen374 My current bike is a 2016 KTM 690 Duke, 360 pounds wet and 69 HP. Over the last 35 years I've owned many other big singles including DR650, Dakar (3 of them), SRX600, SR500 (3 of them), XR600, XR500. Obviously, I have a fondness for big singles. Other multi-cylinder street bikes, well another 50 or so of many different marks going back 50 years
Point out a Japanese middle displacement bike made in the last 10 years that weighs 550 pounds. Or 500 pounds. Or 470 pounds. I'll mention one, the Suz Weestrom 650 at about 475. But that's an adventure bike, and a pretty wheezy one. The SV650 was more like 440 pounds. And all of these bikes have more like 60-80 HP. Which means they can at least get out of their own way.
This Goldie has 46 brake HP, maybe 38-40 at the rear wheel. And carrying an extra hundred pounds over a typical bike of that power means it will be pretty doggie. That's what it comes with, which is pretty much end of story. Any bike can be stripped and turned into a fire breather with enough money and trouble but that will be maybe one in a hundred for a duffer bike like this.
A little extra torque at low RPM is a nice kick in the pants puttin around town, but it's horsepower that gets the job done. But in this case I don't think it's going to feel all that grunty, that 470 pounds you know.
@@williamallen374 They settled at this power level because it fits with A2 regulation, thats pretty much it.
Proper Bike for proper bikers.I,m 70 years old now - been on a bike most of my life and still am.This style of bike obviously is from my era and looks like a bike should do.From A to B with a massive smile on the face,what more could you want.
Hey Alan thats one of the nicest comments ive had in a long time😃
Until next time Alan stay upright mate.
BobbyMax
I'm 68. Same here. Triumphs, Norton, Matchless, BSA's, BMWs, Harley's. Have a 88 dyna now. Good bike, but it's no Norton Commando. Keep riding brother, it keeps us young!
I fully agree Alan - me too!
Alan, Bruce, Phil, keep living bros 🏍️
It's a beautiful bike. I only wonder why they didn't keep with the original 500cc air cooled motor. I get that they were trying to compete with the interceptor and continental, but they would be filing a hole in the market for a 500cc single, since Royal Enfield stopped producing the 500 classic last year. I was lucky enough to purchase one of the last classic 500s, and I love it. I really like the look of the new gold star, just the water cooled motor bothers me a bit, doesn't make it any simpler. More maintenance and things to go wrong, it's going to cost you more money in the future and potentially a lot more trouble. Time will tell, I hope they last the distance. But how many people like me will be waiting a year or two before even thinking of buying one?
Glad to see BSA (Birmingham Small Arms) is coming back to life. I had three in the sixties, 350 single, 500 & 650 Twins all blue. Not a Gold Star! The oil lines were exposed at that time and my oil line crimped in a Canadian Trip I took with my brother. The engine ceased and had to be rebored. It was repaired during an overnight stay on Prince Edward Island. It broke down again going home and I had to put in a thick oil additive to keep it running until I got home. Had to have it rerepaired. I still loved those bikes, but wish the new one was a twin! Good luck with this one. Now I have a 1991 Sporster 1200, Yellow, a 2014 Roadglide anniversary addition, brown and a 2014 Indian Vintage, red. I went cross country inn 1973 on a BMW R69US and loved that bike too. I am so glad BSA is coming back to us. Brings back a lot of memories.
I still got a b33
@@prestcoldandy910 bad luck m8
I've just come back from a ride on my BSA Super Rocket. Great bike, 1960 all over again. Puts a smile on your face.🚀
@@splodge57 That's great!!🤠🏍
@@bikerlop1 cheers! I also have a 2001 Sportster 1200S, another fun bike to ride. Bet that was good fun on the BMW. Enjoy whatever bike you ride. 🤠
I believe the ride & handling are much more important than updated electronics. The headlight is very important because the more illumination, the better. I'm anxious to test ride one & can't wait!
Simplicity, character, and value for money matter most to me. Something that transports you in mind to simpler times, to when there was less bullshit and more authenticity. That's why I love my RE Continental GT 650. It's captured the essence of an era I haven't had the privilege of experiencing firsthand.
Couldn't agre more Jimmy, you've hit the nail on the head i think.
Until next time stay upright Jimmy
BobbyMax
RE Continental GT was a 250cc surely.................. ??
My first bike was a thunderbolt 650. Having never road a motorcycle in my life, I took a chance. I had gotten back from spending 397 days in Vietnam and I wasn’t too concerned about my safety. It wasn’t a very fast bike but it had tons of character. I had that bike for about ten years. We were expecting our first child and my wife didn’t want me to ride anymore. So I didn’t. I’m glad to see the BSA logo again.
The very fact it’ll lack all the electronic whistles and bells will probably be it’s biggest advantage as far as sales go.
People want simple and affordable.
Peter. If you want simple and affordable, try and track down an old Yamaha SR500. That's a simple, single cylinder machine. Quite rare now though. I believe Yamaha still sells a 400cc version.
@@dave6467 Who wants that...have fun trying to get parts let alone jacked up prices for an OLD motorcycle better to get current with all the back up l say...
@@imwatchingyou6113 Yep, that's part of the experience of owning a classic motorcycle. You either want a classic motorcycle or you don't. My point with this and similar bikes is just that they're fake. People owning them want to believe they own a classic but it's nothing of the sort. Where's the credibility? I've owned some classic bikes and yes they're harder to ride and look after, but the upside is the experience they give you. That said, I know I'm in the mInority on this and there are a lot more people who like these fake bikes, than dislike them.
Fair comment ...been down that road myself...🤔🙂
@@dave6467 They're not fake, they're built the way old farts like me want bikes built. I don't pretend my Interceptor is a classic. I like that it's not a plastic crotch rocket.
The best thing I remember when I was young was the sound of these single cylinder motorbikes it was simply unforgettable.
Had a good look round them at the NEC and I'm really impressed. Sitting on them gave a really feel good feeling. I've always ridden older bikes so modern technology isn't for me. Abs is sensible and the USB and power socket is a practical addition. Can't wait to ride one!
ABS us compulsory for the European market.
@@peterwilliams2152 er, yes, I realise that, but it's still a practical bit of tech to have, whether it's compulsory or not. And it's only compulsory for over 125cc. You can just have linked brakes under that, which are dangerous.
Yep: the modern features this bike has are the ones I'd want, and none that I don't. And they just plain _nailed_ the styling...it's gorgeous.
Hey Bob first of all thanks for watching the review and your comment 😀
The bike was definatly a big draw at the Show, and i think just like you lots of people wil want to get on it when it arrives.
until next time stay upright Bob
Bobbymax
I'm a new rider based in Birmingham, what was this event, it sounds very cool and it would be great to attend in the future?
Great to see an old school real bike being built again, this bike is beautiful and stunning, great to also see there are none of these rider modes on this bike you don't need any of these fancy rider modes, can't wait to see this bike in dealers, and can't wait to test ride it
It's not an old school real bike. It's a new single cycliinder engine based on a Rotax design, now built on India
I remember my BSA as a lot of fun, but also I remember several hours of maintenance each week to keep it in adjustment and to keep things from shaking off. I hope the electrics are better, I had to turn off the headlight to get enough spark to pass cars. My Hondas were hit the starter and ride, refuel, repeat. Also, this is a Mahindra, not a BSA. I've had a Stella scooter for 18 years, made in India, and it runs fine and gives no problems, so they know how to make things over there.
You had to "turn off the headlight to get enough spark to pass cars". I think you're memory is probably playing tricks.
Yeah, just take a look at the fuel tanks they supply for the old British bikes - absolutely flawless....NOT
Being the age i am i remember well riding motorcycles with a big single cylinder engines, Velocette, BSA, Royal Enfield, AJS etc. and what a wonderful thing they were. Torquey, simple and generally a more relaxed loping ride due mainly to the longer piston stroke they generally had. I hope the new Gold Star has retained the under square long stroke engine dimensions of the old bikes, if so, it should be a winner.
If they bring it state side, I WILL own one! Had quite a few BSA's in the past. Rode a few off road, cross country runs with a couple Victors (441)
Cannot agree more. Either you ride for enjoyment and love, or you ride a computer that can kill you easily. Sheer simplistic riding for me has always been key. I am impressed.
Decompresssion levers to help you kick over those beasts too as I recall. Some wonderful nostalgic names there
The Goldstar was oversquare in fact. 88 mm stroke and 80 mm bore. Built for touring as opposed to rpm.
@@frankkemble2103 Thank's for the correction Frank. The memory isn't what it used to be :)
I'm a seventy year old 2001 750 Honda shadow rider. Back in the seventy's I rode my two 650 BSA's. (1963 thunderbolt chopper and 1968 Lightning) I love that the BSA brand is coming back. I'm not sure if another bike is in my future but if it is I will more than just consider the new Gold Star
I dearly hope another bike is in your future and would love to hear if you get one
keep on keepin on Don
BobbyMax
I’m jealous you got to ride that generation of British bikes. I was around and remember them, but just a tad too young to ride at that time 😞
Hey Brother. I'm turning 70 this summer and I just bought a Buell Cyclone to keep my '68 XLCH company.
These big bore singles were originally designed to pull side cars (or tow Harleys home) with their massive torque. Hope that becomes an option.
Me to Joh,
BTW Thanks for watching and stay upright mate
Bobbymax
THE HARLEY TOWING WILL ALWAYS REMAIN AN OPTION
I am grateful to see BSA back in the motorcycle market. Though not exactly an English bike, it comes close and as for being made in India, I am proud of the Indians for making progress with their industries.
Factory will be in the uk apparently
I’m just fascinated to see what riding a 652cc single cylinder bike will be like. Apart from ABS I don’t think my current bike, a Honda CB500F has any rider assist gadgets. Good to hear this one doesn’t either.
Hi Andrew, nice to see you back at the channel, I guess sometimes its better to not have to worry about the electronics as it brings extra hassle if it goes wrong.
Until next time Andy stay upright mate
It is not a BSA it is not a gold star it's an Indian maid Faker with a British name that was bought out no connection to the company no connection to England no nothing just bullshit on top of bullshit everybody raving about how great to buy kids and nobody can get one to go on a ride and nobody can find out what a price is going to be it is no much of a gold star as a Yamaha or a Kawasaki KLR 650 street bike dressed up in retro clothes and all these guys and rant and Rave about it Lexia put their money where their mouth is
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 you salty
Try the KTM Duke 690. It's also a 650+ single cylinder thumper... And screamer... :-P
I got one for a bit more than 4000 euros with 7000 kilometres and it makes me 50 years younger... ;-)
When ROYAL ENFIELD WAS OFFERING A 500 SINGLE without any rider assist just dual channel abs till 2019, did you even dare to ride them forget even purchasing them, and you are FASCINATED 😂
History is everything.........
I love BSA ❤ 💯UK 🇬🇧
HI FROM THE USA 🇺🇸
I love the Goldie but have to dispute your assertion that "it's the most iconic British bike" IMO the most iconic British bike is the Triumph Bonneville, though an argument could be made for the Norton Commando.
What about the Norton Dominator? The Commando was pretty much Norton's swansong
Bonneville was it man comn
Velocette Venom 👍❤️
For something truly Iconic what about the Vincent Black Shadow?
@@michaeltb1358 I agree, an old mate's got a Norvin, the Black shadow engine in a Norton featherbed frame.
Indian Market for Retro styled bikes is spicing up with the introduction of affordable bikes like Jawa 42, Benelli Imperiale & Honda Highness & now BSA Gold Star. Royal Enfield was the only one company for more than 2 decades, now surely they are going have a tough competition. Peace✌️
Edit : Even Yezdi has arrived now to the Indian Market.
Thank God for India I say! I love what you guys are doing to bring back the classic brands, done with sympathy and integrity, preserving the original asthetic and style. Just love it.
@@michealrcnicholson9342 🙌🙏
@@michealrcnicholson9342 , @Vaibhav Patil
Mahindra- the giant behind the revival of Jawa & BSA is reviving another Indian retro motorcycle brand called Yezdi. Happy news for Indians 🤑🤑🤑
@@vaibhavpatil1719 don't forget Norton is also owned by TVS motors india . They could introduce norton in india.
@@amalkumar2775 Yezdi & Jawa were from same brand right? Due to Jawa ending their partnership with Ideal Jawa (India ) & shutting its operations in India in 1973, they changed the names of bikes to Yezdi.
I want one, I always loved BSA Goldstar, my uncle had one when I was born. Fabulous.
I think it would be fun simply to ride on a nice afternoon. As a person of some age, I can appreciate the simplicity of the design. I can see owning one just for the nostalgic value.
nice movie I enjoyed watching the it. looks a really cool bike
I have watched a lot of UA-cam reviews on this bike, and by far this is the best one so far. I wish BSA all the luck with this bike as it looks like it is going to be a success, I haven't heard a bad word about it. Just have to wait for the road test. AUS
Hey Phillip, first of all thanks for your kind words and of course watching the review,
Bobbymax
Ps what you riding at the moment?
Riding a 2001 BMW R1100s, but with speed restrictions and police technology, (radars etc), in Australia it makes sense to ride a less capacity bike.
Same over here in the 🇬🇧
Until next time stay upright Phillip
Bobby.
The new BSA looks stunning. I have always enjoyed big thumpers and I own several. There is no greater joy for me than a canyon ride on a machine that insists you engage it's mechanicals to achieve complete satisfaction with the experience. You don't need to scrape the pegs to have a good time if your greatest pleasure is listening to the engine rev on a long uphill pull. I'm wondering which dealerships will handle this new model.
I think they've done a nice job of the desing of the bike, the only thing I'm not keen on looks wise is the seam/trim around the bottom of the fuel tank, the original BSA tanks look so much neater
Great news. BSA was my first bike, back in the 70s.
I did a 250 mile round trip to the Bike Show at the NEC to see this bike; the examples on the BSA stand looked to be beautifully designed, excellently built, and very nicely finished. I am truly impressed, I even (unsuccessfully) tried pumping Bal Ghataore (Design Manager) for a hint at the price point - all he would say is 'it will be sensible'. I would be very surprised if it's anywhere near as low as the £5k you suggest; I think they will be pitching it higher than that, as I believe they will aim to fit between RE & Triumph.
As far as your video goes, it really hasn't bought anything to the party for me - a prospective buyer - I'm sorry, but unless you are basically in the pay of BSA, at the moment - when no-one outside of BSA has had a chance to ride the machine - there is no way that you can conclude and title this video 'Why it's the better choice'. It could turn out to be a complete dog (though I certainly hope not). Also I physically winced when I saw the banner saying "Break Horses'........ look up what a dynamometer (also called a 'brake') is and how it is used.
If the price is more than the RE this thing is dead to me.
I once bought a bullet in India it was junk and i had to take all the gearing and brakes from the UK. In the log book from new it said, "all warranties are void if driven over 40 mph. I just loved that Bike. Happiest times in my life popping around foot hills with no brakes.
The engine is a redevelopment & cosmetically changed Rotax from the 90s that was found in the BMW 650f Funduro & a Norton that was built in Germany.
I ride a 1970 BSA 441 Victor Special and love it .... I will go to see this new Gold Star when it makes it to the states
I have a BSA 441 Victor I love the bike but I prefer my 250 in the dirt. My 250 is much easier to kick-start. They are such beautiful motorcycles to look at and they are so functional as well. Back when motorcycles were as nice to look at as they rode.
Looks great, definitely worth looking at in a year or two when the initial bugs are ironed out. No need for electronics on a bike of this style or power, and they're the first things to die in any case!
Beautiful! Glad to know these exist. Thank you for the video! o7
I have an RE Interceptor and Triumph Tiger. The first for the sher pleasure of uncomplicated bike riding. The other to give me an alternate feel to riding. Both apply. The uncomplicated and the tech loaded have their own values. So its a matter of choice and pattern & purpose of riding that apply. Uncomplicated is refreshing after the last three decades of complicated tech growth.
I’m so glad that British bikes are back! My grandfather used to talk about BSA, Triumph and Norton when I was a youngster. We only really had Japanese bikes when I was learning to ride.
It is not British, Indian chassis with an Austrian engine all assembled in India.
I'm 70 and going on 16 after absorbing the new Goldstar .My singles were a 1968 Ducati 250 Scrambler and a Suzuki LS 650 Savage.Nothing else compares to a big single piston engine thumping between your legs and brain.I longed for a old school style version rather than a cruiser and more power.This is that and I have a renewed enthusiasm for the sport that had faded over the 10 years since selling the Savage.I am clearly obsessed .I've even contacted several Royal Enfield dealers to see if they will distribute this gem in the USA.That would be a perfect stablemate for the Interceptor twin 650.The discontinuation of the R.E. 500 single was perfect timing and the dealer network is in place.Why reinvent a new network?
I thought about getting another Savage in the interim of non-availability of the Goldstar but don't want to risk life and limb before that beautiful dream appears in my driveway.I was mildly excited by the Duke 690 and the Svartpilen but was not keen on the motocross appearance.The Vitpilen was a beauty but the riding position was a deal breaker.Happiness is only a Goldstar away.It's good to dream about the future again.
I wish you well with your dream may it come to fruition...
Nice. What did the RE dealer say?
Michael Cane voice I presumed - style too !!! Subscribed - absolutely beautiful video
Takes me back to early to mid-1960s. I had a BSA Lighting, seemed to need an hour of service for an hour of riding, but I absolutely loved that bike. Traded for a Norton Atlas (I think that was to model). Both were freedom machines.
I too had a Silver Chrome BSA Lightening back in 1970. However, youll remember that these bike power to weight ratio was their undoing. I mean if you were skinny or shortish & light weight, then the bike needed only to carry its own weight plus your own personal weight considered, this would then be a great performance bike!(@@)
Also, do not forget that the engine is a revised version of the one used for ages in some adventure BMW singles so I expect it to be quite reliable.
I have a BMW 650cc single( 3 in the family ) and we all love them , I will be adding a goldy to the list if the pricing is right but forget it if dearer than a RE 650cc
Very nice indeed and just the kind of machine I've been looking for. Funny how things change isn't it? When I started riding trailbikes in the 70's, I longed for sports bikes. The type you sometimes saw kitted out with clipons, farings, hard seat and uncomfortably cramped riding position etc. The style I wished for then, later became the standard theme for nearly all roadbikes.
Now I long for those simple 70's bikes again.
Funny old world innit?
Hey Mark first of all thanks for watching the review and your comment 😀
Yes we are a funny on breed, what we haven't got we want, and what we once had but didn't appreciate we now long for.
Anyway untill next time Mark stay upright
Bobby. M
I still have a 1955 BSA A-10 that I restored to a show winner back in 1986 , it lives in my garage only being ridden around 6 miles to the shows and back home , I wish I could ride it more but because of a back injury it now sits along with a few other of my bikes . I always wanted a Goldstar and even though t s not the same thing as this new bike I now have the chance to buy one and park it next to what will now be "Grandma" , The new bike is sharp and I'm glad they kept it simple , my bike is a "pre-unit" and can run even without a battery , the spark is done with no electronics but with a magneto like on a lawnmower and the lights are done with a 6-volt positive ground generator , it has no ignition key so to keep people from riding off remove the brushes out of the magneto and put them in my pocket , it does have a steering lock , that old bike is bulletproof and will still be going in the next 67 years . The only major issue it has had was a blown oil pump , everything is original down to the 6 volt lightbulbs being of 1950s vintage except for the paint , I kept it black with red pinstripes around the chrome on its tank ( no stupid-looking racing stripes ) . I hope that the new BSA comes out with a sidecar model , that would be cool .
I hope this becomes available in the States. As I get older, I find the big bikes harder to manage and I'm planning on unloading my Road King and King Pin in a couple of years. I'll keep riding my XL1200 Roadster, Triumph America, VMAX1200, and my Guzzi 1000 Cali. I was considering a RE Interceptor, but I might hold off and see what this BSA is like. I like the fact that they plan on keeping this bike simple. I like simple. No unnecessary electronics would be just fine with me.
I definatly agree with you the simpler the better as far as I'm concerned
Until next time jroberthadden stay upright mate
Bobbymax
The Interceptor handles, which is what I like. Fast steering and I like the looks over this BSA, which to my eyes looks a little too chunky.
jroberthadden - I find it hard to beat the riding comfort of MY Triumph America. My purchase of the Goldie will be based on the riding triangle.
@@donsaelzler5334 In either case, I will be keeping my Triumph America, along with the rest of my current stable of bikes.
Excellent with spring just around the corner, I can't wait to see them in the flesh.
Well done, for mentioning the twin counterbalacers. Are they gear driven and does the bike also have hydraulic tappets ? That'd make it really low maintenance.
Unbelievable!!! I'm in love. I owned a RE 650, and that marvellous can will be the best sister for her!
This is going to appeal to the same demographic as the Enfield, so keeping it simple was the right way to go I think. If they can price at or near your predictions they should get a healthy chunk of RE's market.
Hey roum, first of all thanks for your comment and watching the review, and yes your definatly right about the RE demographic.
Hope to see you on the next review,
stay upright mate
Bobbymax
If they step into the American market with a machine that is tight, then that will give RE a run. Many of us who bought the 500 cc Bullet did not walk away from the experience loving the company, and their response was, "Sorry about that." Imagine taking $7,000+ dollars and just setting it on fire. For this rider, that was exactly what it was. BSA has a shot at the Enfield Market in the States, and I for one hope they go for it.
@@timothyahernRoxyCat personally I can't see how people can spend the money that they spend on a new bike when they could get much more of a bike used. For $7,000 you can get a nicely restored British bike that not only looks good but has been mechanically restored and or updated with after-market parts that were better than original Factory parts. And there are low-mileage B still out there waiting to be found. Last year I got a beautiful 1964 BSA Starfire 250. 6000 original miles, matching numbers, everything works. With such low mileage you know nothing has been bothered with half drunk idiots who think they know what they're doing. The old Royal Enfield that was the bullet was the real deal. Like the Ural motorcycle sidecar outfit it was basically a decades-old design still produced it has low power because the market needed reliability overspeed. If Shane somebody was still producing the Model T Ford and you bought one and you try to drive it on the freeway in the fast lane until the motor exploded that's not the car's fault that your fault. To me the new Royal Enfield motor is the same as a Suzuki Savage 650 single motor or a Yamaha sr400 motor they are all good Motors and the sr400 is the real thing downsized that I knew in high school. And the Suzuki Savage will be almost 30 years old soon. The new Triumph has nothing to do with the old Triumph and they made that perfectly clear when they bought the name separating themselves from Meriden. They made Kawasaki copies under license 4-cylinder super bikes that had no relationship to the parallel twins the old Triumph company produced. It wasn't until they established themselves as a producer of modern motorcycles that they brought out the Bonneville retro twin. And it was more like an alternative to the rest of the line that they produced. When Triumph was made in England that was one thing, but now since they make all of their bikes in Thailand and all of their parts in Taiwan other than the name that they have on the side of the gas tank that's the only thing British on the motorcycle. Now they charge a made in England price for a made in Thailand motorcycle what's in a name eh?
WOW! This is an amazing piece of art. I ride a 2010 Triumph America pre gadget, bells and whistle's. Wouldn't have it any other way. I would buy the BSA in a heartbeat. Way to go.
When and where will it be available in the US. It truly is a beautiful motorcycle.
beautiful bike can't believe BSA is back
Very attractive bike!! I appreciate the lack of electronic controls. I favor simplicity & a pure, uncomplicated ride, where the rider learns to deal with variances & road conditions as part of his course in mastering a particular bike. I had a new 2017 Tri. T120. Gorgeous retro-style & finish, but so much tech & smoothness that lost its 'soul' as compared to my 60's Bonnevilles. So I sold it after 11 mos. I'd like to see BSA bring back a parallel twin Lightning, keeping it simple, perhaps in the 750-900cc range. Meanwhile, I may consider an 865cc Hinckley T100.
Stunning and beautiful is the best way to describe this bike can't wait to see it in showrooms and can't wait to test ride it
Me to DY, me to
Stay upright mate
Bobbymax
It’s all going to come down to that engine. It seems to be another version of the total 652cc single made originally by Rotax for Aprilia and BMW. Same capacity, 5 speed box, Dohc, 4 valves and twin plugs. It won’t be a patch on the RE twins for nvh and overall performance. Probably more of a way back machine akin to the RE singles.
Agreed.
Agree with this and whilst it will have much more power than the new Enfield 350 Classic will that be enough to offset the significant extra cost and the dubious aesthetics of the radiator and oversized exhaust pipe?
A few people have commented that the Meteor 350 is a bit feeble, and would like a 450/500 version, so maybe this will suit them. Big singles have just never sold well in recent times, so I'm not holding my breath - I think 350 is the sweet spot for singles, (eg SRX400) whereas the bigger singles are less comfortable and still quite slow.
IMHO this is one of the most beautiful classic bikes prolongations I've seen lately.
a thoroughly modern interpretation of the GoldStar of old. Still, a very nice bike and probably a huge PITA for Enfield, which left the big thumper market wide open when they retired the Classic 500.
the 500 engine was replaced by a superior 411cc unit and is still produced
@@georgebarnes8163 "superior"
As an ex BSA 1956 gold flash Plunger model owner, I like the fact that it has no electronics except for what it actually needs, To many bells and whistles are just something extra to go wrong.
Looks great and well done you all for the Retro reincarnation!
I had a BSA Bantam 175 in the 70's as a student and still regret parting with it; having stripped it for a piston fracture and reconstucted it myself.
Agree with another comment that the radiator is a bit of an eye-sore but probably necessary for liquid cooling - could it be better hidden?
Otherwise looks great.
Do you intend to to a Bantam model?
Great looking bike, as a BSA guy I hope they expand the offerings.
Just beautiful! Looks like the curb weight of the new Gold Star will be about 213 KG, or 469 LBS. The Triumph T120 weighs a stated 226 KG, but has almost double the displacement and nearly twice the torque and power. I'm not sure that a 600cc single-cylinder, mid-weight bike will sell very well but wishing BSA every success.
My first new bike was a 1970 Triumph T100C, weighing in at 340#.
Outside of oil leaks and kinda underpowered, it sure was fun on the twisty back roads.
L.O.L. wait until they try to kick start these things. L.O.L. Dunno whether they have valve lifters these days, allowing decompression for starting as they did in the "old" days. You had to get it right within a couple of kicks otherwise you'd break a leg.
GORGEOUS NEVERTHELESS
Yea bit of tank isn't it? My BMW 650 single weighs 350lbs and kicks out 52 HP. The air cooled Ducati 800 Scrambler is far lighter. Guess it will appeal to the old farts Sunday rider brigade. 😀
@@mark.e.p Looks like the new BSA Gold Star will have the same engine as your BMW 650. The stated HP for a Triumph T120 is 80.
The style and look of this bike is iconic
This is the big single I've been waiting for. Wish Harley or Indian had done it first, and BSA was only my third favorite Brit bike in the 60s but that's OK. Only one worry for me. I've had several 650cc Suzuki Savage over the last couple of decades, and they come in at less than 400lbs wet weight. Looks like this new BSA is more than 50lbs heavier, even heavier than the original Gold Star. But to it's credit, it does produce half again more HP at 45 compared to the Suzuki's paltry 33HP. Hope Mirhandra uses it's existing tractor dealer network when/if they come to the USA as that would mean many dealers already here. BTW, I'm in the 'no gadgets' demographic.
I don't think Mahindra would be bringing these to the US , as it would be sued because the bike has wheels and an engine .
Love that union jack on the tank. My uncle had a 500 when I was growing up. Rode on the back when I was about 8 or 9. Now I'm mounting a 2016 Indian Springfield but it might be nice to also have a smaller bike to tool around on!
BSA needs to hide that radiator a little better. More sweep on the exhaust like a traditional Gold Star. Looking forward to a full line up of future classic bikes like a Lightning and Rocket 3! Keep it simple and clean and it will sell like crazy.
I'd imagine the radiator is as minimal as they could manage, and the bike certainly doesn't need bodywork to hide it. As with Triumph's "Modern Classics," the big finned cylinder and beautiful tank will draw attention away from it.
I Totally agree with you , the rad should be swapped out with a more freer flowing thinner radiator , but I've got to say it hasn't put me off if they come in on price I'm going for It !
I wanted to say the same thing. Thats the only flaw I can point!
The more I hear about this bike the more interested I am in seeing it. For many years I've looked at old Goldies people I know in the collector market own, and how fast and light they are when riding with these people. I've owned a few big singles, and they're bikes you can really fall in love with, one was a BSA 441 Victor, light and quick. Likely going to take a while for these to make it to US shores, but I'll wait.
I'm really glad to see India stepping in and doing so well building these updated classic british bikes, and going to be waiting to see what else their BSA line are going to bring us!
I love the look of the bike, but having ridden motorcycles for over 45 years, I've found that going back in time isn't always what it seems. While bikes like my 78 KZ1000 Kawasaki on modern tires and with improved suspension and brakes seems terrific on today's roads, some of the others in my collection do not stand up to the memory I had of them in the day., including the one Triumph and BSA I own. I'd like to ride one of these, but I don't know that a single cylinder motorcycle even with the many modern improvements would suit me in 2021, despite my age I've moved with the times and am simply used to more power and refinement than I was in my youth, so I'm not sure a 650 single could cut it for me. I am however very excited to see the BSA name reborn, I hope they succeed, the problem I see for this model is the number of people still alive and fit enough to want to enjoy this sort of nostalgia, which will inevitably impact overall sales.
Well.. hope you try one out real soon!
@@sumedhshinde8096 That might be a while, they'd have to get to the US and then there be a dealership close on hand, I can see them being available in time through my local BMW/Triumph/Ducati dealership, but I suspect that's some way off.
I'm 66 and CAN'T WAIT to buy one .
@@agohelliwell6755 I'll just have to be content with my 68 B44 Victor until they reach the USA.
Pure 100% Machine👌 Nice review & Beautiful photography 👏
As a previous owner/rider of a BSA myself, I find the FACT that the lubrication issue of this engine being totally ignored as a serious downer. The original BSA bikes were a DRY SUMP, in other words oil did not acummilate in the sump, (which they didn't have anyway,) only a small depression where the oil pump was able to pick up the oil and pump it back to the OIL TANK, fitted under and to the side of the seat. This system created serious issues with oil leaks as the components of the engine cases were split verticly and oil passages passed from one side to the other and thus leaks developed over time. The Japanese brought in horizontal split crank cases where there were no cracks or splits to develop oil leaks, and the sump stayed full of oil, no oil tank external. So,, we can see this issue is quiet important, yet not a peep for prospective buyers. Does not do the sales pitch, IMHO any good.
Hey itchyvet, first of all thanks for watching the review and your comment.....it looks like you clearly know your stuff, apart from the oil leeks if you were in the same position again with what you know now would you have still bought one 🤔
Curiously asking . Wasn't the dry sump engine better in terms of keeping the oil cooler and keeping the viscosity intact . That by pumping it away from the hot engine cooling it down and bringing it back- thereby increasing efficiency!
@@RoadRashTV NO ! When I sold it, I purchased a Japanese bike, (frowned upon in those days) 4 cylinders, 500 cc's smooth as a swiss watch, went like the clappers and NEVER, EVER leaked oil. Did a trip in our Pilbara area with it, and found the oil couldn't handle the heat, (CASTROL) fitted and oil cooler, never looked back. Did 200,000 K's with it, before I sold it. Replaced it with a Honda V twin, water cooled, shaft drive. Electronic ignition. Was good reliable smooth bike, but had no soul, like the 500, 4.
@@JJ-zh2xd Never did find any cooler oil with the separate oil tank, but it did make oil changes simple, quick and clean. Fitting an oil cooler would also have been a breeze, IF neccessary.
Didn't the first Honda CB750 four have an oil tank?
I rode BSA back in the day. I loved em. It's not a BSA but, I like the way it looks, I like that it's a big single and I like that it has no rider aids. It's a nice looking bike for old gits like me.
10 more horsepower and more sweep to the pipe and it's perfect.
20 more HP
The unrestricted version produces 56hp
If they are going to use a rotax motor to power the so-called new PS a gold star I wish they used the old air-cooled rubber cam Drive motor that they used in the reissued matchless that came out in the late 80s or 90s I don't remember. That bike was much nicer looking and the engine fit the bike. It was a good-looking motorcycle. And when attached to a Jawa sidecar it looked pretty cool. Much nicer looking than the so-called new PS a gold star.
Well done for mentioning the balance shafts, this is the first review to mention that. The LCD display is still a mystery, fuel gauge? trip meters? The front pipe thing is a cover that hides the pipe and the cat.
Thanks Dinsdaleand, and yes your right the but im not sure weather having a pipe cover is a good thin or a bad idea 🤔
Anyway stay until next time stay upright D P
Bobbymax
Great looking bikes that will sell big time…. if projected price is accurate ! Would like to have heard it run…. especially with an aftermarket silencer . The only gadget needed is the USB port.
Well done! Can’t wait to test ride one!
Priced as you suggest this will be a winner. They just need to respond to widespread negative feedback about the size of the radiator and the bulk of the header pipe.
The radiator looks bigger than the one in the bathroom.
Agreed. Why does a 500 single with all those cooling fins need a `car-sized radiator?
A breath of fresh air, I want one
Thanks for the best review I have seen yet. No way should it have lots of electronics it is meant to be a modern retro and should stay that way.
Still own a BSA A50 Royal Star. Love the look of the new Bezza. Can't wait to ride one. Maybe they'd take mine as a trade-in.
What's wrong with having two motorcycles? Answer not a damn thing. Keep your old bike so because if you sell it you will experience seller's remorse.
Bobby, can't really disagree with you. I think the design/styling is spot on. These are pre production bikes that we are seeing so hopefully they will do something about that crude looking radiator and the pipes/tubes/wires around it. They need to tidy that up. The brushed steel exhaust looks nice but oversized. There seems to some black paint the brushed steel which can be seen from some angles. That looks tacky.
Hey Raj, first of all thanks for your comment and watching the review, and yes I noticed the bikes were a bit rough around the edges in some places,
Until next time Raj stay upright mate
Bobbymax
Yes I don't disagree, the cumbersome radiator only adds to the routing, and shape of the exhaust header pipe which definitely spoils the look of a good looking motorcycle otherwise. And compared to other multi cyclinder motorcycles, the radiators framing looks a bit on the large size.
I'm glad to see that it has a full front fender. It's going to need a center stand absolutely! Where am I going to have to go to buy one?
It's refreshing not to have loads of electronic gadgets. Just get on and enjoy the ride old school 👍🤪😉
Can’t wait to get a demo had a BSA in the 70s fantastic looking bike👌👍🏻👍
No rider aids is the way to go in my book. Btw are you sure it has chrome rims? I hope they do tuning parts so we can fiddle with it like a proper biker, it's suggested up to 90hp is hiding in that engine :)
NA, would be impossible
I love the simplicity of it. I'm glad that it doesn't have bells and whistles but they really need to hide the radiator.
Looks great except that hideous radiator , surely something could have been done with that?
Hey Barrie first of all thanks for watching 👀..lots of comments about about the ugly rad hopefully it won't fall on deaf ears and they will do something about it before it comes to market.
I used to own and rebuilt BSAs (America). I think this model is perfect! I waited years for this rollout. I'm probably too old to think about getting one, however! I would like to HEAR one running, please!
I just love the „ has no list“ . It’s about moto cycling
The unrestricted version produces 56hp.
Wow! 😂😂😂😂
@@ggallinmoko123 yes. Imagine other reports state that the Indian version will produce 90hp 🤣🤣🤣
I agree with Bobby, no new age electronics. Let's give back motorcycles the character they once lost with the boom of superbikes. Thanks for putting up this video. Cheers.
A BSA Goldstar with fenders ? surely mudguards be British please.
I like the simple electronics and the paint themes.
Think the Vincent Black Shadow is much more iconic so your initial premises is B/S. Most people who have never ridden a bike wouldn't be able to tell you what a Goldstar was. This is a 'pretender bike', with totally unknown characteristics and price - nobody has ridden it, or even heard the bloody thing run, could be the biggest POS going - just don't know that yet. Its from an unkown manufacturer, with an unknown dealership network, with unkown customer aftercare support. You are being blinded by a bought badge and a appropriated name and marketing b/s that trades on a heritage that this new firm does not have. Your pricing predictions are way too low, from what I've heard from people who visited the stand and managed after a while to screw some kind of indication out of the sales people -you'll be looking at 7K ish...
Soar UK. I couldn't have said it better. I thought I was the only person not being fooled.
It seems to me that theyll ask about $14,000 for one of these?
@@UltimateForceMarketing never sell any at that price, only to complete dickheads who have lost the plot -...........
@@soaruk3697 Mahindra sell (and build) Jawa retros in India. Massivekly successful company so the BSA comes from their "Heritage stable" and will storm the market just as RE is now doing dominating it's sector in the UK
Mahindra has won this kind of rodeo before. As for after sales support - I'll predict build quality negates it. Its 2022, and with no operational time machines - how do we expect more than pretend?.
Sat on this at NEC and was pleasantly surprised how roomy it was for my 6'2" frame. Dare I say it, much better than either of RE's 650's in that regard.
Keeping it as simple as possible is definitely my preference. The ubiquitous modern classics fail in this regard. Wish they had kept it to air-cooled . . . at this engine size it would have been entirely doable. The radiator just kills the looks. Won't buy it for this reason alone.
I heard somewhere that they had to go water-cooled to meet emissions standards for the big single.
Hopefully when it comes to market the radiator will de a more appropriate size
Having starting out with UJMs I am a fan of air-cooled machines, liquid cooling has been around for so long that it is the dominant norm. Heck, even the Wright brothers used a water-cooled gasoline engine on their history making Flyer back at the turn of the last century! Triumph does a very nice job of incorporating the radiator IMHO.
People say it needed water-cooling for emissions reasons Royal Enfield two motorcycles are air-cooled. The Suzuki Savage is air-cooled and still has a carburetor and when I last checked we're about $8,000. There was an article in classic bike magazine where a guy took a Suzuki Savage and put alloy tank seat and pipes on the motorcycle and it looked really good like a big single from the 50s or 60s with a cafe racer Style.
At 7000 lb I guess that would be 9,000 American dollars that's a lot of money. Even the Suzuki gn400 which was an enlarged Street version of one of their 4-stroke dirt bike kick only of course, and it had cast wheels and disc brakes on the front.
dont need gadgets just a reliable bike . and im loving the look of it
💥 Liquid cooling is a stupid choice for retro Motorcycles 😪
Amen.
Fantastic I was waiting for this to be born again love it , I,m a pensioner by way and very nostalgic 👍👍👍🤩
There are MORE than enough gadget laiden rolling computers out there sporting giantic price tags to pay for all the gizmos.
Motorsickles are engines with wheels SPOKE wheels and analog instruments. They're supposed to handle we'll stop well and supply a good speed rush when properly urged to do so. At least Thats what I require from mine but I've only been ridin 58 years.....
Betcha appreciate electric start, indicators an' lack of points, though, eh?
Mind you - shoulda kept the kick start. Same as cars - dumping the starting handle was a bad move.
The rest of the electoshit is bollox.
Im surrounded by tech gadgetry in my day to day life, I don't need or want anymore when it comes to this classic beauty!
The radiator makes me puke.
You and a masive amount of other people
until next time Stay upright Cybair
Bobbymax
That made my heart go thump thump! 8) I was in High School in the late 60's and worked 2 jobs to buy a new BSA 441 Victor, the "scrambler" version of the Gold Star. With its polished aluminum and yellow tank and black frame it was beautiful!! I'll even forgive the nasty scar it left on my leg from not pulling the compression release properly! LOL I 'thumped' along 10k miles on that old girl! Loved every mile! It took a year to re-learn how to shift on the left properly, not right! LOL Some things get in your head early are hard to change. 8) I hope they make the Victor 441, but I doubt it. Memories.... 8) --gary
45 Horse Power and only 100mph, sounds like a tubby machine to me. Overweight and overpriced for that performance. Why don't we set up a Goldie Challenge, when the Isle of Man TT races begin in 2022, and put a REAL Goldie clubman in a race with the new pretender ? One lap each on closed roads. Should be fun.
sounds reasonable to me
If they come across the pond, please have them offered in highland green when hit the sales floor. Love that color.