BSA Gold Star 650 Review. A New Modern Classic Motorcycle. Better than a Royal Enfield Interceptor?
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- Опубліковано 25 гру 2022
- I finally got my hands on the NEW BSA Gold Star 650cc Motorbike to review. In my review I go into detail on all the things you'll be thinking before considering buying one of these machines. So what is the bombshell? Is it any good or not? Hit or Miss? Watch all the way through to find out!
I talk about the Engine and how it stacks up to its rival the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 motorcycles. I speak about the Handling, stopping power, the way the bike makes you feel, and most importantly whether it's worth going and buying one of these new modern classic motorcycles with your own money. Could this be a Royal Enfield killer?
I also give my points of view as a 20 year old motorcyclist; it might not be what you and the motorcycle manufacturers would expect!
The BSA Goldstar model in this video is presented in Highland green. I must say this is probably my favourite of all the colours it comes in and it is the cheapest too, coming in at £6500, the other colours are an extra £300 at £6800.
I'd like to say a big thank you to Cooperb Motorcycles near Bozeat Northampton, they have a great range of stock; BSA, Royal Enfield, and other makes, and are extremely friendly and helpful, you can see their website here: www.cooperbmotorcycles.co.uk
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I have been looking forward to this review. There are other reviews out there, but they left me with no sense of what the bike is like. Now that I've watched your review, I want one. I wonder if they'll come to Canada and how much I can get for my Moto Guzzi.
Personally i would keep the Moto Guzzi.
Keep your guzzi. A thousand times better than that parts bin pile of crap.
@@sidecarcn Me too. Have both, but never give up a Guzzi!
I've ridden it and bought one, sorry, the royal Enfield don't come close.
I dont think it competes with the Interceptor until customers are actually riding their bikes out from the showroom! I'm Indian and where RE and a couple of brands have done so well with creating good faith around Indian brands, these guys seem to have bitten off more than they can chew...Dont get me wrong...Im rooting for their success...but unless they literally sell a bike that can be ridden out by a customer...I cant take them seriously!
Wise words
Agreed!
That’s fair enough….I have an Interceptor 650….for me, even if they are close, I prefer the sound of the 270 Parallel twin over the single anyway.
Better brakes than interceptor, better engine with liquid cooling, no wobbling unlike interceptor.
Interceptor heats up on high speeds and long distance rides like crazy.
@@bu11ymaguire thats all cool...they has said March for deliveries...have the people who have paid for their bikes received them yet?
I love the ride alongs, where we can hear the engine. I appreciate being able to also see the shifts as if I'm riding the bike!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year's to you fellas!
I think im 100% bike obsessed,, EVERY bike I see I say to myself "id own that" even if it fits my size or not.
Here, here.
The sound of a 1956 single cylinder BSA C12 still makes my heart pump fast because it was my grandfathers motorcycle.
Needless to say that I’m a big fan of the brand and honestly I think this new model is a really good first attempt!
I think it will sell very well and I wouldn’t hesitate in buying this over the RE.
It was really nice to see your enthusiasm in the review.
I'm glad you like this because so do I. I won't be in the market for one for a couple of years, but hopefully by then, dealer networks and production problems will be ironed out.
I've not seen one in the flesh but it's ephemeral. The Interceptor does nothing for me but this plucks at my heart.
Nice to hear the thoughts of a young rider. I’m young at heart so have ordered one in Green 😅
I'm watching all of the test ride videos of this bike. This is the best one so far for the exhaust note. Very good, thank you 👍
That bike looks great. I'm so glad BSA is back... I've heard about this and now I get to see... I'm in the USA and am truly awaiting the release here...
Happy new year to you, just wanted to say thank you for all the brilliant videos over the past year ..BRILLIANT JOB 👍🏼
Ordered one :-) Rode it a few weeks back (one of the first demos available) and loved it!
Me too, got a black one, they're going to sell fast.
Great review and great job on capturing the sound 😊 thank you
Wow now I’m interested! Best review of the BSA on UA-cam!!!! ❤️
Thanks very much 👍🏼👍🏼
Nice review Darcy👌
Keep up the excellent work 😊
Happy New Year!!
One of the things I'd like motorcycle companies to do is make there model of bikes with a fully old school set up where you don't need to have to worry about computers and can actually have a good time working on them like their older versions
Well now you are talking exactly what Enfield does.
Hi Mr Darcy, it’s lovely to see your enthusiasm for the classic bikes. I have just ordered a new BSA Gold Star and I am very much looking forward to ownership. I have been riding for over 50 years so I remember the originals , one of the lads at college had one, he had to slip the clutch all the way down the college drive to keep it going. All the very best to you and your Dad I enjoy watching your videos.
I test rode one last week and didn’t hesitate in handing over a deposit for one in Highland Green, that colour being the cheapest was irrelevant to me as I would still of chosen it if it was the most expensive!, especially after seeing them all at the NEC last month, I don’t think there is a bad colour, they all look great to me 🍻
Brave man! Did they give you ANY idea when you might actually GET the bike?!
If you handed over a deposit you need to get it back before you run out of time. No one will ever see a production model.
How did that claim pan out?@@thra5herxb12s
Great review, I have the interceptor but my brother has just picked up his BSA and loves it....
Nice looking bike and can definitely see you loved this one Darcy 👍🏼
I would love one of these. As a Beezer rider since the late 60s, I sold my last BSA 6 yrs ago when kickstarts became painful. They really have captured the look. I also like Rotax engines, and I have had a 500 Jawa and a Matchless and enjoyed both. If finances improve, I will have one of these as my last big solo.
I much prefer this to the RE. If I rode one of these, I'd probably want one. I love big singles. The gap between the rear mudguard and the tyre looks great. My SCR 950 is the same.
Excellent review, young man.
Thanks buddy. Yes the Ol Man loves big singles too
Love it! Very good looking "stock" exhaust, the sound is good as well. I think at the price point it will be a performer. I certainly hope this new BSA company does well. I have a place in my heart for British bikes. Be happy, be safe
Great video! 👍
The BSA Gold Star is a gorgeous bike. It's probably my favorite looking motorcycle. I'm hoping they come to the U.S., and sooner than later.
Mahindra couldn't bring the jeep to America, so this isn't coming either
I think BSA is poised to take this segment of the market if they play their cards right. What a beautiful bike!
I really like it ...Good review as usual ..just thinking about nobody does a big single roadster nowadays they all have to be ...off road ..looking ..but this is a pure roadster ...looking forward to trying one next year
Looks like a nice interpretation of the old style, love that it does not have large LCD screens on it.
Good review, I’ve a highland green in order
Nice review Mr Darcy
Very enjoyable review!
Thanks Freddie. Yours was superb btw 👌🏼
Nice one Darcy.. I took one out yesterday thoughly enjoyed it, well balanced punchy bike... Definitely getting one this year 👍
Great review as always and personally I think the highland green is the best colour and luckily it’s the cheapest,if I was to replace my bike this would feature highly on my list of bikes I would purchase.
Great video
Well done 👏
The consensus seems to be that the bike makes you feel good riding it and surely that is one of the most important things, which comes across. It’s going to be one of those dark horses that will come up on the inside and will grab sales and j get the feeling owners will be very happy. There are plans I believe for a more powerful version. Nice review.
Great review. I love the sound and feel of a big single. As usual with all new stuff, the exhaust sound needs "adjusting" 😉 Cool bike.
A big thumbs up to you Darcy. You're only 20 and own a H-D Softail Standard (M8). You've goti the right idea ... Why wait until you're retired to enjoy the good life! Best wishes from the south west coast of the island of Australia! :)
That seat isn't so bad fella ! I learned to ride on a 1953 BSA A7 500cc Star Twin I bought in 1973 from my mate Simon Evans, here in Burry Port, for £10. It had no silencers and absolutely no seat padding, just the metal base and had pulled a sidecar for 20 years beforehand.
Nice review. Love that color and general look of the bike. Nice to see a traditional splash guard up front to keep debris out of the radiator. Not keen on the radiator but with emission controls it’s inevitable.
Happy New Year you lot, & keep pouring the 'Tore-knee Port' into your Ol'man (Bit of Stilton, apple pie . . . more Port : )
Nice review, I love v twins but would like a go on one of these, think I will see how they cope with demand at the dealers
Nicely done!
When they come to australia im get one for sure awesome looking bike still waiting ...
Hi Mr Darcy, I had a test ride three weeks ago, to add I have an interceptor which I've owned for 2 months.
The BSA is a nice ride, I took it down my usual route which is country roads and a few fast b roads, it did bounce me out of the seat which my Enfield hasn't done, (the shop may off set the preload a little too stiff) the engine I found quite torquey however no more than the Enfield. What I didn't like about the engine was the knock from the counter balance shaft it sounds like the big end is knocking also a little snatchy off and on throttle when warmed up.
The gear shift is a little slack when changing down from 2nd to first, feels like it's not quite home, strange.
The mirrors are next to useless as you need to move your head too much to see behind you. No centre stand as the cat is in the place the stand would need to be. Overall I prefer the smoothness and the feel of the interceptor and that's not because I own one, I test rode the BSA with a view to exchange my Enfield, but thought better of it. I enjoyed your review keep them coming that's you and your dad.
That makes sense! I appreciate such comments. I know the Interceptor and I expected such downsides from the Gstar. Unless they release the 90hp version like they planned to do for the Indian market, the BSA doesn't stand a chance to win the battle vs the Int...
@@adventuredog7848 That is what I think too if they ever really make it...
Never heard of a road legal 4 strokes single 650cc able to produce such a power anyway.
I've ridden it and bought one, thought the Enfield was rubbish, so it's seems personal preference will decide
@@awesomeappleby5923 glad you liked it, did you give it some Welly? I found it hit the rev limiter too quickly. However it's great to cruise around on.
@@johnbrandon9430 took it to around 70, it was minus 4 deg.
very easy to do and comfortable. No baffle in, sweet sounds of the 60s...
It has a rev limiter at 7000 for a2 compliance, so obviously, there's more in that engine for the fully licensed in the future.
it could rev to 10,000. Where as the interceptor maxed out already, no more room for improvement. That's the difference between a modern engine, and one that been milked for years...
Great review
You can see where the royal enfield made savings BSA spent and where enfield spent BSA saved. I love the looks of both and can't really decide between the two so it will come down to waiting on more long term reviews on the BSA. I currently have 3 bikes one of which is a himalayan. I have been thinking of a classic style bike but BSA took a long time to launch and of course we have the new cruiser 650 from enfield with talk of a classic 650. So might have to wait for those before making my decision. Great review. As you said anything you find cheap on the bike can be swapped out.
The 650 scram looks so promising and spied mule test bikes seem to have improved all the Interceptor weaknesses (seat, shocks, fork...)
I know both the Interceptor and Himalayan and I cannot stop thinking that the Interceptor feels a little bit more well put together than the Himalayan (paint quality, chromes, exhaust quality...)
@@mototomcambodia definitely the himalayan is built to budget and requires a good wash and coating of acf50 before putting in the garage. I use it all winter and any bike riding in winter needs looking after. Welds, fit and finish are OK not brilliant but great wee bike to own especially if you can tinker and service yourself. Good beginners machine too. I love too many bikes to own them all unless my numbers come up.
Have fun swapping out the switchgear! 😅
It’s a pity that you haven’t ridden the RE Interceptor. Would love to hear the opinion of some reliable people.
Although for me it’s already too late. I recently sold my 2000 Fat Boy and bought an Interceptor. I made a test ride on an Interceptor back in September. I was smiling during the whole ride on it (similar to the feelings you described that you had on the BSA). I was somehow more happier riding the Interceptor than I ever was while riding my Harley. So I had to do something. Unfortunately the weather here in northern Germany is not the best these days. I can hardly wait for a bit better weather. I’m wishing you and the Ol’ Man all the best and a good start to 2023. 🤘🙂
I have ridden the Continental GT though, so my comments were 99% from experience 👍🏼
Great review. I had a good look at one in our local dealer, and will definitely get a test ride when the weather is better. As you say, very comparable to the Enfields in terms of finish. I love a big single, so I'd be very tempted by this if I was looking to buy a good value retro. One thing that really stood out as disappointing is that the BSA logos on the engine and filler cap are decals. They look incredibly tacky and will probably rub off quickly. BSA really need to emboss the logo on future models.
I agree with your comment on the USB location on Triumphs. I have a Street Scrambler and I haven't used the USB socket once because it's just a faff.
Your video makes the bike look mid blue but I love it in that colour 👌
I would love to see a video of yours on the Kawasaki VULCAN S 650. Me and the old man have the same height, and I'm thinking that may be a good first bike for me. Cheers, happy 2023.
I think it's a beautiful classic motorbike, well done! It actually has me thinking what if RE brought back the larger Classic but instead of a new 500 or a 650 twin they did a new air cooled Classic 650 Single???🤔 THAT I think would a complete game changer especially with bikes like this new BSA
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Thanks for the excellent review of a very nice bike. Hopefully BSA manages to set up a decent service network otherwise they will not be able to compete with RE. Good to have another "retro" choice on the market.
Sounds good. Looks good. Goes good. It's reliability will show over time.
That's beautiful. Under £7000 and a decent 650. Sounds great too. A little quieter than I expected, though that's not a bad thing. 😭 Need a bigger bike 😭 All good though. Once those coins are saved it makes it so much more worth it. Work hard play harder!
Have a great New Year Mr Darcy, drive safe buddy.
You have the option to take out the removable baffle to fix the “too quite” problem… 😉
Still sounds like a Stihl to me though
Every bike out of factory will be quite these days. They have to pass regulations after all.
I'm hoping the best for the new BSA GS. I sold my Road King about a year ago to get a boat. I live in a small coastal town, an hour 1/2 or so, north of wellington, New Zealand. Miss the bike like crazy. However, having just hit the big 60, I've been eyeing up the RE Interceptor. Price point is spot on. Local dealer in Palmerston North, has a sunset strip colour coming in, in the next couple of weeks. Love the ease with which you can customise these bikes.
Aesthetically, the BSA has me tingly all over. Just love it. And a big single, well... nuff said. It's not likely to land here anytime soon, so my hit of retro is sorted. When it does land, I see having both these bikes in my shed. It's a shame the pandemic hit. There's no doubt has affected the launch of the BSA.
Thanks for the review, and all the best for the New Year.
Seems you have zeroed in on what is important to you, good on you.
I am 70 and been riding for nearly 50 years. I remember BSA as "bloody sore arse!" Lol Great review. Cannot wait until they bring them to the USA.
you guys are really lucky to enjoy these bikes in perfect locations. In India you have bumper-to-bumper traffic which makes riding theses bikes a major pain and you dont get to enjoy the thrill that these bikes give....love the looks of this bike and yes i hate those hideous plastic monstrosities that go as "crotch rockets"....always loved the analogue dials
I dont think so there are plenty of places for bikers to ride fast here in india.these guys too dont fly on these bikes in traffic areas. This is a country backroad
Having previously had some gripes about a few visual features, I'm seeing this bike in a different light here, liking it more. Although I do still prefer the intercepter.
Great looking bike. Prefer the exhaust and instrument binnacle Vs the Interceptor (which could do with a small refresh in that area).
Nice review, I am still surprised that no one else has picked up on how low the BSA feels. When I did my ride, it was the first thing I noticed when I threw my leg over it. For that, it feels more like my Classic 350 than my Interceptor 650. Ride and handling felt great though, but did “white line” noticeably more than the Interceptor, even though they both have the same tyres. Maybe it is down to the more relaxed geometry on the BSA. Enjoyed this review.
It would be interesting to see long term reviews and yes is it the same a the jawa with a rebadge? Someone said it could be
@@timsnaden8937 I don't think it is, I saw that review so I went to take a look for myself and although you can see some common shared parts such as the indicators the frame is definitely substantially different with the BSA frame having quite a pronounce gooseneck up to the headstock and the rear footpeg hanger loops are definitely different too. I dare say that like most companies they did raid the parts bin but also the suspension is different with the Jawa having what looks like cheap chinese fake gas shocks I believe the units on the BSA are Gabriel not a premium brand but one that has at least been around for quite some time. I haven't ridden one yet but I have looked at one in my local dealer and I was quite impressed with the overall quality for the price.
@@timsnaden8937 The Jawa is currently a much smaller engine...they would need to create a substantial frame for this 650 single! So i dont think it would be the same
I own a Jawa Classic, and after viewing this bike in the videos, I don’t think both the bikes share a lot of parts between them. And FYI, Jawa also have the Gabriel shockers. They are not tuned very well. The back shockers are very stiff and they make the ride very bumpy.
Awesome & Thanks :)
Round headlights matter. The concept of vehicle design that indicates what direction it's meant to travel is becoming rarer and rarer in the 21st century. Good review, thank you.
Best SH--T Anywhere was what they were called in the states back in the 70"s. Real good review. I think I would pick this over the 650.
Thank you. I just bought one and loving it. I got the red one😇
Awesome, enjoy 👍🏼
Great, I will without doubt get a test ride in the spring. However not sure I will px my interceptor for one!
Worth a test ride, yes probably wouldn’t swap if I already had an interceptor but you never know!
Finally got around to a test ride, tbh it was better than I expected, a bit sluggish up to 40 but once it’s got it’s weight moving it’s quite stompy, feels more like 60bhp than 45, handling very nice until you really push it hard, then it wallow’s, mainly due to the rear suspension being way too soft, overall though an enjoyable bike 👍
The Triumph and Honda guys used to say BSA stands for "Bastard Stoped Again"!
Oh yeah and if you're not careful the exhaust can melt your boot heel, seen a few videos where you can see the marks just behind the right footrest 😏
My first bike a brand new 175 cc BSA in 1966 oh dear ! A mate got a Honda 175 twin everything worked on it and didn't stop when the brake light came on because the electrics weren't up to the job, but so saying I would like a look at the 650 , stay safe
It’s really beautiful with a chrome tank. I’d get one if didn’t already have the Enfield.
Nicely done. I think if BSA get their finger out and make these bikes readily available with decent dealers and backup then they are gonna sell bucket loads. It’s all for the taking…..
That thing is a beauty.
Lovely. I love big singles since they're big, lazy thumpers like me. The only thing I regret is that they couldn't make the horsepower without putting a radiator on it. Maybe the aftermarket can make one that blends into the lines of the cradle a bit better, but that's a minor complaint.
I never noticed that before on the rear, my 2022 V7 Special is the same. I also didn't get locking fuel cap or colour coded rear mudguard 😞
👍🏻& Merry Christmas
My view is that the new Gold Star is a beautiful recreation of a classic bike, and I'm really glad that those things exist for the people that want them, (although it may be a few months before you'd be able to buy one) but if it were my money, I would be getting the new Honda Hornet, which in my opinion is a far better motorcycle for about the same money. I used to own BSA Starfire nearly fifty years ago, and I don't know what you were getting at with BSA but my guess is Bloody Sore Ass, although I didn't find my Starfire particularly uncomfortable.
BSA stood for either Bloody Sore Arse or Bits Stuck Anywhere in my recollection.
Unfortunately I can't work up any enthusiasm for this plastic gold star with its attendant water cooling and disc brakes. You can't beat the sound of a real Goldie either!
Gold stars should be air cooled 500cc or 350cc with a RRT 2 gearbox (Just my opinion) not a good choice for round town (slip the clutch up to 30mph to pull away) I live in London so with our traffic not really practical (also at 69yrs old I'm not sure I could kick start a real Goldie anymore)
I still have a 1955 BSA B31 350cc single and an old scruffy Bantam, also have two 1990s 500cc Enfield bullets and my 1965 350cc bullet (my preferred transport)
Anyway I think I've taken up enough of your time cos I've started to ramble now.
Good review, all the best! Just remember, Two wheels good, four wheels bad! (three is acceptable, trike or sidecar) Rambling AGAIN..... is it time for my dinner now? 🤣👍
Would be nice to test one of them, but do not think they are available where I live.
Once they get bikes into showrooms for sale I will be convinced.No dealerships in Scotland yet.
Hopefully we will see it at our bike show at ingliston next year,but yes we need dealers....
Santa Pod the only drag strip? You never heard of the A1?🙃 Great review, I would have one.
Enjoyed that Darcy very cool review
Pointy peace of plastic…. Well said 😂😂
Birmingham small Arms obviously
Liking the Green
Question is as the previous video by Moto Tingle did it burn your boots on the exhaust?
Il be testing one in the new year
Looking forward to it
All the very best
Phil & Fay
Didn’t burn my boots nope, I’m sure you’ll love it when you ride it. I was looking for a different joke for what it used to stand for 😁
Yes I’m.a big fan of the bike and I won’t be going on it just for the sake of pulling it apart
I mean, I own 4 BSA’s and a triumph T100
So I have enough to compare it to and il be testing out the Interceptor and the Classic 350
But I already have a deposit down on the gold star ⭐️
Yes il be putting a video on and hopefully quelling some of the shit people are saying about it 😊😊
Nice review, glad you didn’t bother mentioning BSA history as it’s irrelevant to this new startup company. What we have is a really nice looking retro styled bike and we are lucky at the moment to have quite a lot of choice in this sector, I would certainly consider having one.
I am not into popular brands, so this seems interesting to me
Very nice review Mr Darcy, and how refreshing not to have to listen to any swearing or childish innuendos. I love the look of the bike overall, I'm just a little disppointed in the cockpit. It all looks a bit cheap and does not replicate all the lovely chrome of the original. I guess it's built to a price with BSA gun stickers rather than etched motiffs, and painted engine casings as opposed to more plush aluminium etc. Overall all though, I think it's a lovely bike and I hope it does well.
Birmingham Small Arms = BSA. Great review, hope they come to Canada.
🤞🏻 they come to Canada
Very pretty retro bike, I like it.
Nice video! The colour is great!
The only question is: Is it so ugly on the left side that it's videoed only from the right side? I think it looks good...
I've actually bought that exact Demo bike from Cooperb today...delivery next Saturday
Awesome that’s so cool 😎
Good review as always, you didn’t tell us the seat height, and has it got a centre stand?
It hasn’t got a centre stand unfortunately, all the full specs can be found on BSA website 👍🏻
You guys should do a review on the Ducati scrambler desert sled. I'd like to hear your thoughts with that compared to the triumph scrambler XC
I love the retro bikes even though my daily riders are mostly actual vintage bikes from the 70s . What would be cool is a Retro using the Honda XR650L motor or the Kawasaki KLR650. There was a guy here in the States building Norton Manx type frames for the KLR650 motors
Yes definitely 👌🏼
Why have the exhaust on the same side as the drive chain? Makes maintenance that bit more of a pain for access
I've ordered mine in insignia red 😁
5:21 'Bloody Sore Arse'?... at any rate, stunning looks, and the definite proof you don't have to be a young man over fifty to like bikes with a classic look. 😋
Anyway, great review of a great bike.
Cheers.
I love these old style bikes even though i ride a kawasaki and yamaha .it has a class style to it
Great review, you highlighted some really good points but I think I’ll keep my pointy plastic thing until the Gold star has proved itself. It’s a pity the header pipe isn’t swept back like the original.
I agree about the sweep-back. I think the pipe had to route down to connect to the catalytic converter.
@@NeilIves Fair point, it’s a shame they couldn’t work around it somehow but, you never know, a de-cat modification may make an appearance and allow a modified pipe to be fitted.
Yes, I also think reviewers forget that the manufacturers of plastic pointy things, were capable of making stuff like this at least 50 yrs ago.
@@Grahamvfr I do not get your point. This is an intentionally retro styled bike 🤔
@@user-rf9me7xm1w I think there's a good chance that alternative pipes will appear because the current shape is crappy.
Most awaited machine and another heartthrob British production after RE Interceptor 650. those silky curves recall a pure 60s vibe.
PS: Need on-stand comparison between BSA GOLDSTAR 650 & RE INTERCEPTOR 650.
I liked the review, but we do not all have country lanes nearby which you say it is best suited. What about Duals, A"s, and M Ways? I would want to go touring on it.
Guys.. I've just read a review in 'ride' magazine, it states valve check at first service (500 miles) , at £390.. Any idea if that's correct????
Not sure tbh. Check with your local dealership if you can 👍🏼
Some pieces from this one and some from the Interceptor would yield a real classic. I don't like the rear shocks on the Interceptor, with the weird-looking reservoir, but then this one has that radiator and the USB box... I'd be curious to see if the Brembo system performs better than the Bybre one, as I suspect it's pretty much the same unit. You didn't mention if this one has a center stand, by the way, which is a very useful feature of the Interceptor when doing some maintenance. Also, I hope Longride do as good a job on the bag racks on this as they've done on the Interceptor. The instrument cluster looked super weird on the BSA at first, seeing the indicators move from right to left!