How to fit EPDM two part gutter trim on a rubber roof
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2021
- Ive had a lot of messages asking how to get the two part gutter trim to fit and Ive dropped a little video here of the best way we have found to fit it.
this one is from perma roof.
hope it offers some help to you if your struggling - Навчання та стиль
I struggled with 1.5mm rubber and a cooling day. I cut a 200mm length of 2nd part of trim and used that to push the edpm into the top groove in short sections. It stayed in place and then made it easy to push and click the cover piece.
The tip of applying silicone is a total game changer 💪🏼
Well done, as dependable as ever.
We appreciate what you show for the rest of us.
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Just used this for a 1.5mm rubber roof.
Makes it much, much harder, but still possible - easiest to fit from underneath, rather than ‘top down’. You just need a lot of strength to get the rubber inside the lip.
Great video!
I pushed it home first with a scraper . absolute doddle
Thanks for the guide, did just this last night. needs a bit of a thump, but went in fine. Works a treat. Used this drip tray as you suggested rather than the one in the kit. Thanks for all your fab videos. Did my garden room following your guides.
great video I'm now inspired to do a new rubber roof and gutter trim on my shed this summer -- well explained
"You don't want to puncture your rubber". 😂 I needed that. Very well explained though. Thank you!
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Great video as usual, I have just fitted a long section on my own on a coldish day. I found after cutting the rubber i used a thin scrapper to push the rubber into channel this made fitting the second profile much easier..... for an old bloke.
Great videos and just subscribed. I have a flat roof (that isn't quite flat) and it doesn't have a drip trim so the water is running down the wall. Thinking about trying to fix it myself but after watching how good you are I think I am going to call a Pro (you) to get a quote. Great videos. Thanks v much.
Scared of heights and arthritis in wrists there was no chance I could get it in like that .
After hours of failure 💡 from a ladder I pushed the rubber home with a scraper first . boosh trim straight in.
Happy days
cheers Liam im about to put mine up this week this has been extremely helpful
You never ever want to puncture your rubber! 😉That could cause many problems! Also surely you only want to put your rubber on when it’s stiff! God this is not stop filth virtually every word coming out of your mouth! I love It keep it up!
Yip keep it coming 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
nice one pal … thanks for explanation!!
That's a pretty cool idea. My only question is, does that plastic become brittle over time?
No mate
@@thegardenroomguruhi mate, thank you so much for all the videos and info. Would you be kind enough to share the manufacturer or supplier of these two part gutter trims? I ordered some for my build and they look garbage compared. Cheers Rob
@reidyknowsbest we get ours from northern building plastics mate, they deliver next day nation wide 🫣
@@thegardenroomguru that’s just up the road from me. Thank you mate that’s brilliant 👍🏻
Thanks pal very helpful. Doing my dormer soon with this system
Fair play Liam...... Solo run... Anyway.... Jen and the lads would be looking for royalties if the were featured... 🤔😂😂
spot on that pal,looks superb and a 100% finished look,thanks
Wow great info tnks
The trims will bow between the pins if get any sunlight in summer and epdm will retract especially with the amount of water base your using.
Long runs will need an expansion gap in the first parts of the trim (1mm per meter should be sufficient), the second part of the trim should be ok if it is butted together as any expansion will just cause it to slide along the first trim.
Just about to do this. Brilliant timing thank you for the clear video
How many takes did it take you 🤣 stiff rubber with a slight chuckle, so many innuendos......keep pleading your innocence Liam 🤣🤣
Your videos are excellent fella.
Thanks mate. you helped me out of a hole.
Even doing it on your own .. shows commitment to your job .. and customer service ....😁😁😁
1.5 mm rubber not so easy , get the fairy liquid on it , back front and in the grove , needs a good push up and a clip with the hammer . Prior to the fairy it was graft , and had to take the gutter off to get upward force . Happy with it though
I bought the standard 2 part epdm and as you say you have to nail through which seems a bit stupid. This type surely a much better design.
I cannot find this trim to buy on its own can you send me the link?
Great work as ever
Hi i did the hybrid roof insulation to the top with a vapour barrier I’ve noticed tonight there’s 14 patches of condensation the size of the insulation boards on the top of the rubber roof outside is this normal please ? Thank you
Keep up the great work
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Nice and tidy finish
Hi Liam, Cracking job as usual. I'm living in Ireland and just coming to the end of my own build based on your style but I can't seem to find the 2 part trims and the roof kerb any where but the uk. Can you let me know where you get yours so I get the same quality one that you use.
Alan 🇮🇪
How come your team has shrunk is it the usual you teach people how to do and then they go off and under cut you, the grass looks good but you do end up with things growing in it, I did 50sq metres in the garden about 3 years back and every now and again get on hands a knees to pluck out small weeds and grass, when you put it on a roof do you still put dried sand in the piles to keep the grass standing up also does it help with regulating temp on the roof.
How did the astro turf fair on the roof? Is it a good idea, i might add to my shed roof
Great vids can you tell me what thickness you use 1.52 or 1.11 EPDM also do you use unbranded or firestone ? cheers
Nice video however, Carbone hardened “plastic” roof cladding? Failure clock is ticking.,,,,
Great gutter trim the other kind where you put the trim over the rubber is rubbish as you say the water goes down behind the trim and misses 4:29 the gutter
Hey! Any suggestions to wholesalers to buy the ceder cladding? I'm in Scotland and not sure where to go for it.
Also, no gutter batten required.
Hi Liam
Are you superman ended up using two people the strength needed was crazy, then tapped the plastic in to place with a hammer for the CLICK
It’s just technique mate, I broke one this week, too much slap snd not enough pull🙈🤦🏻♂️
where I can buy?
What brand are these drainage trims? I can’t find them anywhere
WHere can i get this trim? Fitted an EPDM roof not an hour ago, was going to fold it under but did NOT want to puncture it, seems pointless having epdm if you're going to put nails in it.
Sorted it...
@@Cornz38 what did you do mate?? I was thinking could you screw it and cover the screw in black silicone?
I’m fitting mine next weekend snd have the trims with nail holes ready.. 😬
@@johnstoneplastering3080 Ive bought some 'P' trims for the side, my workman swears nails are fine, i'm not so sure. So i'm going to video my efforts.
they are made by Permaroof. try their online store.
where can the gutter trim be got
anyone know where to buy this trim? Cheers
Northern building plastics
Why the artificial turf?
How does the kerb trim fit against this ?
the top sits level with the bottom of the square profile of the kerb trim. then when you put the kerb trim corner cap on, it sits over and on the lip of the gutter trim
Look smashing jobs a goodin
can it be used with a felt roof
No I don't think so mate, Felt wouldn't be as flexible as rubber and doesn't take kindly to being bent to that extent even in warm summer weather.
@@AnthonyJohnson-qv5nc nice one mate
I hate when my rubber goes stiff
A stiff rubber is a lot better than 18 years of csa payments for a punctured rubber 🤣👍🏼
Slap on the arse! 😂
What a nightmare when I did mine! Fking hell..
Who in the world designs this crap!!! As a general contractor for 40 years and of course roofing this is a complete disaster! There is no way that clip in pieces that easily slides will hold that rubber as it shrinks over years creating bubbles on top edge of the roof. Then we have another serious problem. The top edge of the roof is already built out ¾ inch then the snap in piece at a 45° bumps out again totaling up about 1 ¾ inch bumping which would be normal if there was a singled pitch roof. An average pitch roof because of the minerals on the shingle slow the water runoff. Rubber roofs the water runoff is super quick! Meaning you do not use much drip edge on rubber roof so the faster water speed run off doesn’t miss the gutter below? Want more proof. When you have two for 4/12 pitch roofs intersecting we use long pieces of metal flashing creating a gully between those two roofs. The water running off that metal gully many times you see a splash guard added to the gutter in that spot Obviously the engineer that came up with this designed system has no clue what he was doing has no basic knowledge of water runoff
Your an angry elf ain’t you ?
@@thegardenroomguru Seriously because you don’t like basic physics and math, can’t accept things like speed, gravity commonsense and you come back with this reply. The backyard engineer would figure this out of what I said. I’m from the states maybe gravity and water off must be different in your part of the planet. Or it must be just different on your part of the planet. If so we need to call all the scientist to prove water tension and gravity is different in your neck of the woods
@@johnknowing-zr8de I’m not sure how much rain you get, but it sounds a lot. We very rarely get a deluge and the roof on a garden room is pitched very minimal.
It can handle it, again, your very irate, what’s your problem?
@@thegardenroomguru It’s amazing I’ve seen it time and time again when someone is criticized because of basic physics and math. The response is what you have been doing. Instead of learning about those basic and physics you chose to do the latter. I’m not irate that’s in your head. I’m actually a very jovial easy contractor to work with. And it’s not about as you call it a deluge. A big thunder storm happens in most all parts of the world. I'm from the state’s in Pennsylvania. Just four weeks ago a property owner had a rubber roof laid over a shingled mineral roll low slope roof. I happen to be there the day we had a good thunderstorm as the building owner I were standing there looking out we saw water flying off the roof most of the water was missing the gutter. He commented that never happened before> I explained to him like I explained to you. This was in the city where we cant have water like that flying off the roof missing the gutter. I’m not irate don’t be so sensitive tried to fight basic facts and physics it’s not a debate is simple science. What I said I’ve been a builder from the ground up no subcontractors. A structural rehab specialist. This might work in your little Garden meaning it doesn’t matter if water miss your gutter. But if this is on someone’s home, a lot of people the sidewalk will get wet and the building’s façade will be exposed to a lot of water for no reason You’re also missing the point that clipped in piece will not hold that rubber roof slipping past that metal and in time will pull and shrink creating a bad rubber roof edge like theirs bubbles on their rubber roof leading edge will be loose that way in time
@@johnknowing-zr8de but it’s not, it’s a garden room.
And the people on the side walk? Well, if it was raining hard enough for the water to miss the gutter, then they are already pretty wet, I’d imagine they would be running too, but this is all what if?
It’s a garden room my friend, don’t over complicate it with what ifs, do you know the pitch of my roof? Or is your great knowledge of physics allowing you to calculate it from a video?
Wind you neck in, it’s just a garden room in a “little” garden 😊
In little old England.
It’s so easy to be the big man, angrily typing your disgust from behind your screen.
With your 0 videos and 4 followers, who even follows a guy with no content?
Maybe your family?
Calm down, it works here in the UK 🇬🇧 horses for corses mate 👌
This Astro turf looks good on roof, but it not soak the water and effect the life of roof ?