I love this incarnation of the Dragon. Did I enjoy fighting Grigori more? Yes, but this guy his principles his character the more willingness to tell us the truth of things despite our different roles because he believed our will to be great enough to find out the truth. This guy I would drink coffee with every morning he's a legend.
me too when I heard this passage in the trailer I loved it. It reminds me of final fantasy or certain music in anime. Only the Japanese know how to do that!
Honestly I like this just as much as the first game's dragon theme. This one feels like a heroic finale to a journey that you alwas knew would come. While in the first game it feels like an intense epic fight to the death.
What is your purpose here, Arisen? If you sought to live you had naught but run and hide yourself away. But then, tell me, child of man... what does it mean to live in truth? To wage war against the passing days? To pray to the unseen for a few breaths more? To raise grand cities from stone, and spawn new life in turn? Mankind has done this, yes, and more. But is the tapestry you weave truly of your own design? Their kind is easy to fathom, they go on living from simple fear of death. But not mankind. Some welcome the end with arms outstretched, while others come to face death incarnate, arms in hand. I ask again, what is your purpose here Arisen? One path to your survival, lies in my defeat. Still my heart, and you stay the coming end. Another path before you... is to offer up that which you hold most dear. Abandon all delusions of control. For the price of a single life, I shall leave this land in peace. As my "vanquisher", the duchy would bow to you. Wealth and power are sweet anodyne for heartache. You'll not gainsay my terms are more than generous. If it matters aught, the man who rules this land now won that honor through just such a bargain. The decision is yours, Arisen. Now... choose!
@@TheStraightestWhitest Ugh... Stubborn child... whate'er meaning life holds... It makes men deaf to all reason. Heed me well, Arisen. In my death, you've won a future for this world... But what that future spells for you... For all men... Is a truth you'll find staring back from this world's utmost depths... Arisen... You have earned back what is yours! Your life belongs now to no other. You've won it by rights... It is yours to use or cast away as you see fit. Remember that...
Everything about grigori in the first game is was more epic imo the music dialogue fight etc it makes sense story wise for dogma 2, as the story is less about the dragon and the arisen, and more the nature of the world itself. still hate to see it though
@@magiv7573 I totally agree! Honestly the second game is awesome too... still really well done. Love the details they’ve added and the story is so fun. But that original final battle was so cinematic and emotional. This one didn’t feel quite as climactic. Still loving the game and enjoying my playthrough, but I’m definitely excited to revisit the og
@@shaydilane2172 This final battle seemed way more tailored with the Unmoored Lands in mind, meaning not the real end. Whereas in DD1, it appeared to treat Grigori as the true final battle, only to then throw it for a loop and reveal that was just God's servant, not the big man himself.
It suffers from the plague that every modern game has, making music be way too classical and in tone with how movies make them. Nothing interesting, just the same old triumphant classic song. DD1 is more rock focused, DD2 is generic.
Man, I just wish Grigori's lines were as legendary as they were in the first game. This game made the Arisen feel less important, more like a pawn than an Arisen.
I think it's what they were going, the arisen and the dragons are pawns in the dogma and the game tells you that at the start by having you being mistaken as a pawn
except in the true ending where you sacrifice yourself and your pawn to break the cycle forever... every ending except that one you are just a pawn in the brine/seneschal's hands until you do the true ending sacrificing yourself to break the cycle and defeat the brine for good.
while I think dd1 grigori was better he was more personal to the arisen I do like the vibe of the dd2 dragon who I will call greg while grigori seems to be a happy cog in the cycle thinking of it as a grand task and special right. while greg seems kind of just going through the motions he knows he is a cog he even agrees the cycle sucks on the ride to the final battle. grigori is a dragon who loves his job while greg just kinda does his job.
greg was damn near trying to help you sabotage his job, he's the voice that tells you to embrace death and kill yourself to see the truth in the starting cutscene. If he could have offed himself he would have, he showed up to work with gasoline and matches and the player was an hour late so he had to hide it from his boss.
Well they also serve different roles. Grigori is a classic dragon, one who serves the Seneschal. He is supposed to test you, physically and mentally. So him getting into your head, making you doubt yourself, trying to crush your resolve, is a part of his job just the same as physically fighting you is. Greg is different. He's in an unhealthy cycle perpetuated by The Watcher rather than the Seneschal. The reason he does what he does is not to test your will to see if you can replace the current Seneschal, but simply because The Watcher believes cycle = good, and needs every cog of the machine to play its part lest his unnaturally made reality comes undone. He says this aloud in the ending. The Dragon doing battle with the Arisen was a part of the cycle, so it's a part of the one The Watcher made, even if it is no longer necessary. It's a part of the story, so it has to be there. When you think about it, this means that there's no rhyme or reason to Greg's actions anymore, and he seems to be aware of it. All he has is ''We need to play our parts'', or as he puts it: ''We must fullfill our charges. I as the dragon, and thou as the Arisen.'' Because if they do not, the world, and possibly that entire universe, unravels. So instead of constantly testing the Arisen, he instead appears to be making an effort into trying to get them to break it all down. He's hoping that our will is great enough to break through the pre-ordained methods of The Watcher. He's planting the seed in our heads that we can do it, that we should try. He seems tired of it. But as Rothain discovered, nothing truly has free will in The Watcher's cycle. Everything is pre-ordained. That's why the Arisen is built different. His willpower was too great for even The Watcher and his cycle.
@TheStraightestWhitest To add context onto this, the reason why it's The Watcher and not the seneschal is because the current seneschal (Rothais) found out that The Watcher existed (he's like the seneschals supervisor) and basically quit his job lol. Because the seneschal wasn't doing his job anymore (this includes making the next dragon) and continuing the cycle the Watcher stepped in. It could very well be that Greg has been doing the same boring job endlessly for who knows how long lol
I love how rebellious this dragon is though. "Hey kid, you know it would be a shame if both of us failed to continue the cycle. I'm going to tell you this while my heart is weakened and we are in flight above the only thing that could do such a thing"
Bro when I fell into the arena and pulled out my duospear I was fucking SHOOK they did not need to go that hard with the intro! Sadly I kinda almost one shot him with Draw and skewer-
I saw in a wiki while I was looking up how to farm a material that the dragons name is Nox, I don’t remember which one of the two but it’s either the official wiki or the fextralife wiki. I’ll put the name of the material down below for the people that want to find the page I saw easier. Wyrmlife Crystal
@@McJaggi Is the cycle completely messed up from the brine somehow getting the power of the seneschal and misunderstanding the true intent of the cycle or is this a new take on the story and the watcher was supposed to be the rule keeper that even seneschals had to answer to and it took matters into its own hands cause things were going so far off the mark this cycle?
@@TheMidWave I think it’s just how the Dragon’s Dogma world works, a cycle that continues forever and fail safe for if the Arisen or Dragon breaks the cycle, I don’t know for sure but it’s possible that the brine is like a biblical flood in Dragon’s Dogma.
@@TheMidWave tbh i dont think the watcher is a different entity or anything, i still think they're the seneschal, but clearly the seneschal still has a will and execution of their own, and this one seems to align themselves with the continuation of the cycle at all costs. This being in contrast to both seneschals we see in 1.
Ive heard so many people say the originals ost is better and that this is just generic but i think generic is wrong. Its not genetic. Its the plurest classic fantacy ive heard in a long time and im all for it.
I think one big issue with the OST is that it's all orchestrated in a similar way, so stuff doesn't sound very memorable, which is what many people call generic
@@Elyrium42 I can definitely see that. I'm still very early in the game so I've not heard alot of it yet but I'm just someone who enjoys epic orchestra. Still dosent live up to somthing like monster hunter or destiny tho
@@backfromtheash5882 The issue with it is that Dragon's Dogma 1 had extremely memorable themes that stood out very much. Grigori, the Seneschal, Daemon. They all had unique motifs. Nothing really sticks out with DD2.
@@TheUndyingCrystal yeah, the only bit of music I remember from DD2 after playing is this and it's only because of the melody at 2:45 really. Meanwhile a bunch of stuff from DD1 I still remember simply because of the more unique direction like electric guitar (?) and much more prominent drums used in a bunch of them
I think it’s that this game is more ambient in its soundtrack while the first game is more melodic, which hits harder in my opinion. I like both but have a clear preference for the first games soundtrack.
@@Flutter8utter When you know the lore, you'll know why. Just ask if you want an explanation. Is it less climactic? Yes. But that's because this isn't the climax of the game.
The game just has a difficulty problem in general im with you, i felt the same way melting him halfway through the fight so i reloaded to put on shitty weapons and make it feel more properly dramatic
Guys I am saving money to buy this game for those who played I have two questions 1 is the final battle a good one better than dragon dogma 1 and 2 do you think they are gonna make a DLC just like bitter black?
Yes there will be dlc, i also think the fight is more mechanically interesting and rewarding to play but with the caveat that the entire game is too easy and youll have to bring nerfed weapons for it to last longer than a minute or two otherwise youll just melt him with late game weapon damage
That's not a bad thing. That's a part of the story. He's not a Dragon made by the Seneschal. He's essentially an unwilling imposter. That's why he's so anxious to make you break all of it down, unlike Grigori who revelled in his role.
@@TheStraightestWhitest I am pretty sure it is the opposite. It's clear that this dragon wants to break the cycle meaning his will is pretty aligned with yours. He may have had insane will but didn't have the skill. He's encouraging you during the fight because he see's the potential in you and encouraging people always helps them with their confidence to achieve their goal. He's definitely not a pushover, he just has a different view to Grigori. He's definitely unwilling to paly his role, because he has an even greater will of his own.
@@Sylvaard This dragon does not have free will. The Watcher has robbed the world of free will. He even says it. "We must fulfill our charges. I as the dragon, and thou as the Arisen." And we learn why when the Watcher tells us that one character acting out of place makes the entire story unravel. The Watcher has created a cycle that perpetuates itself through force. It's artificial. It's no longer run by a Seneschal. Rothain abandoned his duties.
@@cabellocorto5586 true, i’m more referring to the scope of the fight, grigori in dd1 isnt really hard BUT his opening phase to his fight with the whole chase sequence, shooting him down then climbing him to stab his back before finally fighting him on even ground has way more of an impact. Plus i don’t really like the new VA for the dragon as much, David lodge killed it in the original this one is kinda meh, doesn’t help that his dialogue is less cool too (though i understand the point is he wants you to end the cycle and he’s kinda sick of it)
At first I was bumped out too. But… this actually fit. Grigori wanted to have a good fight and hadn’t trouble with the Cycle. But « Royce » on his side didn’t liked the cycle, wanted it to stop and in the end wanted to be done with it. Fulfilling his obligation. For him you were just another Arisen to defeat for a God who was content to keep his power for himself. But… all of this you are unaware of it the first time, only getting clues. To you, « Royce » is the final adversary, the fulfillment of your quest. -and basically the stereotypical final boss of most heroic fantasy adventure stories.- And the music keep that in mind. Having a more traditional orchestral feeling that is in itself EXTREMELY good. -pretty sur this theme will be dissected in the future.- It isn’t Grigori theme because it isn’t Grigori you are facing. The fight might be the same, but the underlying plot is completely different.
@@TheStraightestWhitest yeah the real enemy is the brine (you learn this in the true end of DD2 and eventually defeat the brine for good at the cost of you and your main pawns lives *and no they wont be returning to the rift they truly die alongside you never to return to rift just obliterated like you are*) both you and your pawn are essentially erased from the world completely but with your true deaths the brine is defeated and the cycle broken permanently.
Y'know, for a game called Dragon's Dogma 2, there's very little dragon or dogma. You don't feel this dragon's presence on the same way you did with Grigori. With DD:DA you had people worrying that they'd be charred, you opener with seeing your home town attacked, and you had a whole dragon cult. When Grigori shows up, it's already been mentioned that the cult is making some sort of play. Meanwhile with the new dragon, he just kinda gets summoned... Either way, this dragon i do like, just wish we had more of Mr. Dragon Dogma
I love this incarnation of the Dragon. Did I enjoy fighting Grigori more? Yes, but this guy his principles his character the more willingness to tell us the truth of things despite our different roles because he believed our will to be great enough to find out the truth. This guy I would drink coffee with every morning he's a legend.
Drinking coffee with grigori is crazy I feel like he’d destroy the coffee mug😂😂
@@Makinextup333 it's why you have him snag those giant tourist attraction cups, it's his size and he needs the coffee.
I mean, he's literally bro, being like "hop on, I'll give you a ride to the arena where we fight"
@@LeonserGT this shit made my day lol
THY WILL, THY SOUL, THESE ARE ALL THE MEANS THOU HAST TO CARVE THY PATH ANEW
2:18 is so good, I hope they release the full official soundtrack soon
5:24 yoo the horns in the background are playing End of the struggle, I just noticed!
I loved this part ever since the first dd2 trailer 2:40 - 3:10
me too when I heard this passage in the trailer I loved it. It reminds me of final fantasy or certain music in anime. Only the Japanese know how to do that!
Is there a full version of this passage or does this theme only appear in this final boss theme
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That music on the First half its a mix of Hope, and danger, and when that feeling of Hope kicks in, i got chills. Man i love music, damn.
Honestly I like this just as much as the first game's dragon theme. This one feels like a heroic finale to a journey that you alwas knew would come. While in the first game it feels like an intense epic fight to the death.
What is your purpose here, Arisen? If you sought to live you had naught but run and hide yourself away. But then, tell me, child of man... what does it mean to live in truth? To wage war against the passing days? To pray to the unseen for a few breaths more? To raise grand cities from stone, and spawn new life in turn? Mankind has done this, yes, and more. But is the tapestry you weave truly of your own design?
Their kind is easy to fathom, they go on living from simple fear of death. But not mankind. Some welcome the end with arms outstretched, while others come to face death incarnate, arms in hand. I ask again, what is your purpose here Arisen?
One path to your survival, lies in my defeat. Still my heart, and you stay the coming end. Another path before you... is to offer up that which you hold most dear. Abandon all delusions of control.
For the price of a single life, I shall leave this land in peace. As my "vanquisher", the duchy would bow to you. Wealth and power are sweet anodyne for heartache. You'll not gainsay my terms are more than generous. If it matters aught, the man who rules this land now won that honor through just such a bargain.
The decision is yours, Arisen. Now... choose!
Grigori's dialogue was so fucking stellar.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Ugh... Stubborn child... whate'er meaning life holds... It makes men deaf to all reason. Heed me well, Arisen. In my death, you've won a future for this world... But what that future spells for you... For all men... Is a truth you'll find staring back from this world's utmost depths...
Arisen... You have earned back what is yours! Your life belongs now to no other. You've won it by rights... It is yours to use or cast away as you see fit. Remember that...
@@deadspace_658 "Well met, Arisen. I'll not waste time on rhetoric. Defeat me, and take my place as keeper of this world."
The mighty Arisen and our will to fight. Do we have what it takes to complete our destiny? The time has come
It was on my second playthrough that I really stopped to appreciate this song. This really felt like a tragic meeting of fate.
I felt like the world truly stood upon my shoulders.
Now this is a theme for the final battle, man final bosses really have the most impressive fight music!
I just need the first minute thirty of this where the dragon is giving the hint and can't find it outside of here...
This and the Dulluhan OST is the best in the game.
Griffin is good too
Unmored boss theme also good
Reversal of fate is good too
One of the few songs in dd2 I prefer over 1s version.
0:44 Is just fucking glorious.
@@TheStraightestWhitestthis entire boss theme is so fucking great, fucking start nerding out when I hear those instruments when it’s picking up
@@Makinextup333 Same bro. I listen to it on repeat. It's so incredibly foreboding.
Sorry, this one, especially the second half, is good. But it doesn't even come close to Fire and Perdition and Clash of Fates.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m in love with dd2. The music is great! But it doesn’t have quite the same flare as the original…
Everything about grigori in the first game is was more epic imo
the music
dialogue
fight
etc
it makes sense story wise for dogma 2, as the story is less about the dragon and the arisen, and more the nature of the world itself.
still hate to see it though
@@magiv7573 I totally agree! Honestly the second game is awesome too... still really well done. Love the details they’ve added and the story is so fun. But that original final battle was so cinematic and emotional. This one didn’t feel quite as climactic. Still loving the game and enjoying my playthrough, but I’m definitely excited to revisit the og
@@shaydilane2172 This final battle seemed way more tailored with the Unmoored Lands in mind, meaning not the real end. Whereas in DD1, it appeared to treat Grigori as the true final battle, only to then throw it for a loop and reveal that was just God's servant, not the big man himself.
It suffers from the plague that every modern game has, making music be way too classical and in tone with how movies make them. Nothing interesting, just the same old triumphant classic song.
DD1 is more rock focused, DD2 is generic.
@@maelis9573 Calling classical music generic is a 70 IQ take.
Man, I just wish Grigori's lines were as legendary as they were in the first game. This game made the Arisen feel less important, more like a pawn than an Arisen.
I think it's what they were going, the arisen and the dragons are pawns in the dogma and the game tells you that at the start by having you being mistaken as a pawn
Because he is. Up until he defeats the guy, he's a pawn in The Watcher's cycle.
"No different from Pawns..."
except in the true ending where you sacrifice yourself and your pawn to break the cycle forever... every ending except that one you are just a pawn in the brine/seneschal's hands until you do the true ending sacrificing yourself to break the cycle and defeat the brine for good.
That's basically the whole point of the plot
Just wondering can you do the talos theme?
while I think dd1 grigori was better he was more personal to the arisen I do like the vibe of the dd2 dragon who I will call greg while grigori seems to be a happy cog in the cycle thinking of it as a grand task and special right. while greg seems kind of just going through the motions he knows he is a cog he even agrees the cycle sucks on the ride to the final battle. grigori is a dragon who loves his job while greg just kinda does his job.
greg was damn near trying to help you sabotage his job, he's the voice that tells you to embrace death and kill yourself to see the truth in the starting cutscene. If he could have offed himself he would have, he showed up to work with gasoline and matches and the player was an hour late so he had to hide it from his boss.
In my experience, there are times when it's better to get help from a Silent Quitter like Greg, than a corporate loyalist Grigori 😂
Well they also serve different roles. Grigori is a classic dragon, one who serves the Seneschal. He is supposed to test you, physically and mentally. So him getting into your head, making you doubt yourself, trying to crush your resolve, is a part of his job just the same as physically fighting you is.
Greg is different. He's in an unhealthy cycle perpetuated by The Watcher rather than the Seneschal. The reason he does what he does is not to test your will to see if you can replace the current Seneschal, but simply because The Watcher believes cycle = good, and needs every cog of the machine to play its part lest his unnaturally made reality comes undone. He says this aloud in the ending. The Dragon doing battle with the Arisen was a part of the cycle, so it's a part of the one The Watcher made, even if it is no longer necessary. It's a part of the story, so it has to be there. When you think about it, this means that there's no rhyme or reason to Greg's actions anymore, and he seems to be aware of it. All he has is ''We need to play our parts'', or as he puts it: ''We must fullfill our charges. I as the dragon, and thou as the Arisen.'' Because if they do not, the world, and possibly that entire universe, unravels. So instead of constantly testing the Arisen, he instead appears to be making an effort into trying to get them to break it all down. He's hoping that our will is great enough to break through the pre-ordained methods of The Watcher. He's planting the seed in our heads that we can do it, that we should try. He seems tired of it. But as Rothain discovered, nothing truly has free will in The Watcher's cycle. Everything is pre-ordained. That's why the Arisen is built different. His willpower was too great for even The Watcher and his cycle.
@TheStraightestWhitest To add context onto this, the reason why it's The Watcher and not the seneschal is because the current seneschal (Rothais) found out that The Watcher existed (he's like the seneschals supervisor) and basically quit his job lol. Because the seneschal wasn't doing his job anymore (this includes making the next dragon) and continuing the cycle the Watcher stepped in. It could very well be that Greg has been doing the same boring job endlessly for who knows how long lol
I love how rebellious this dragon is though. "Hey kid, you know it would be a shame if both of us failed to continue the cycle. I'm going to tell you this while my heart is weakened and we are in flight above the only thing that could do such a thing"
I think both songs are pretty epic.
Oh boy two masterwork cakes!
Can you do 1 hour please😊
Please do extended version
I second the request for an extended version, I want to use this when I run a dragons dogma ttrpg campaign
Why 1 hour?
Because I want it to be playing in the background when I'm working
Just loop it
This was a good theme, clash of fates was better though
Bro when I fell into the arena and pulled out my duospear I was fucking SHOOK they did not need to go that hard with the intro! Sadly I kinda almost one shot him with Draw and skewer-
2:47
I wonder who that dragon is this time, we know who Gregori was in the first game but i wonder for this dragon.
I saw in a wiki while I was looking up how to farm a material that the dragons name is Nox, I don’t remember which one of the two but it’s either the official wiki or the fextralife wiki. I’ll put the name of the material down below for the people that want to find the page I saw easier.
Wyrmlife Crystal
@@McJaggi Is the cycle completely messed up from the brine somehow getting the power of the seneschal and misunderstanding the true intent of the cycle or is this a new take on the story and the watcher was supposed to be the rule keeper that even seneschals had to answer to and it took matters into its own hands cause things were going so far off the mark this cycle?
@@TheMidWave I think it’s just how the Dragon’s Dogma world works, a cycle that continues forever and fail safe for if the Arisen or Dragon breaks the cycle, I don’t know for sure but it’s possible that the brine is like a biblical flood in Dragon’s Dogma.
That is Question for Another Time (DLC) i supposed
@@TheMidWave tbh i dont think the watcher is a different entity or anything, i still think they're the seneschal, but clearly the seneschal still has a will and execution of their own, and this one seems to align themselves with the continuation of the cycle at all costs. This being in contrast to both seneschals we see in 1.
Kinda sad they didn't reuse the melody Grigori had in DD1
Ikr, so damn disappointing
Tbf, this isn't Grigori
@@Elyrium42 it still should have the same intimidating factor of a theme the OG did
Might not have fit to much. That fight has a large portion of spectacle to it. This one gives a little build up and drops you right in.
Its not the same. Here Grigori is clearly trying to help you break the Cycle but also trying to test your will.@@Ranni_Witch
Ive heard so many people say the originals ost is better and that this is just generic but i think generic is wrong. Its not genetic. Its the plurest classic fantacy ive heard in a long time and im all for it.
I think one big issue with the OST is that it's all orchestrated in a similar way, so stuff doesn't sound very memorable, which is what many people call generic
@@Elyrium42 I can definitely see that. I'm still very early in the game so I've not heard alot of it yet but I'm just someone who enjoys epic orchestra. Still dosent live up to somthing like monster hunter or destiny tho
@@backfromtheash5882 The issue with it is that Dragon's Dogma 1 had extremely memorable themes that stood out very much.
Grigori, the Seneschal, Daemon. They all had unique motifs.
Nothing really sticks out with DD2.
@@TheUndyingCrystal yeah, the only bit of music I remember from DD2 after playing is this and it's only because of the melody at 2:45 really. Meanwhile a bunch of stuff from DD1 I still remember simply because of the more unique direction like electric guitar (?) and much more prominent drums used in a bunch of them
I think it’s that this game is more ambient in its soundtrack while the first game is more melodic, which hits harder in my opinion. I like both but have a clear preference for the first games soundtrack.
такой мастерпис а играет всего 1 раз в игре. ну и в трейлерах
Personally I hated how much of a pushover grigori felt like here compared to fighting him in the first game.
thats cus its not grigori... its a completely different dragon.
@@arcanumelite4853 So it should be a easy fight? He just flies us to a battlefield and we kill him like a regular drake?
@@Flutter8utter well i get the feeling this dragon doesn't actually care if he stops you or not and so he probably wouldn't put up much of a fight.
@@Flutter8utter When you know the lore, you'll know why. Just ask if you want an explanation. Is it less climactic? Yes. But that's because this isn't the climax of the game.
The game just has a difficulty problem in general im with you, i felt the same way melting him halfway through the fight so i reloaded to put on shitty weapons and make it feel more properly dramatic
0:00
Guys I am saving money to buy this game for those who played I have two questions 1 is the final battle a good one better than dragon dogma 1 and 2 do you think they are gonna make a DLC just like bitter black?
Yes there will be dlc, i also think the fight is more mechanically interesting and rewarding to play but with the caveat that the entire game is too easy and youll have to bring nerfed weapons for it to last longer than a minute or two otherwise youll just melt him with late game weapon damage
Great theme… too bad the dragon is such a pushover in this one compared to the fight in the original
That's not a bad thing. That's a part of the story. He's not a Dragon made by the Seneschal. He's essentially an unwilling imposter. That's why he's so anxious to make you break all of it down, unlike Grigori who revelled in his role.
@@TheStraightestWhitest I am pretty sure it is the opposite. It's clear that this dragon wants to break the cycle meaning his will is pretty aligned with yours. He may have had insane will but didn't have the skill. He's encouraging you during the fight because he see's the potential in you and encouraging people always helps them with their confidence to achieve their goal. He's definitely not a pushover, he just has a different view to Grigori. He's definitely unwilling to paly his role, because he has an even greater will of his own.
@@Sylvaard This dragon does not have free will. The Watcher has robbed the world of free will. He even says it. "We must fulfill our charges. I as the dragon, and thou as the Arisen." And we learn why when the Watcher tells us that one character acting out of place makes the entire story unravel.
The Watcher has created a cycle that perpetuates itself through force. It's artificial. It's no longer run by a Seneschal. Rothain abandoned his duties.
Not really sure what you're referring to. The Dragon was always a pushover. It wasn't difficult even in Dragon's Dogma 1.
@@cabellocorto5586 true, i’m more referring to the scope of the fight, grigori in dd1 isnt really hard BUT his opening phase to his fight with the whole chase sequence, shooting him down then climbing him to stab his back before finally fighting him on even ground has way more of an impact. Plus i don’t really like the new VA for the dragon as much, David lodge killed it in the original this one is kinda meh, doesn’t help that his dialogue is less cool too (though i understand the point is he wants you to end the cycle and he’s kinda sick of it)
This is garbage compared to the og grigori
In a vacuum its good. In context of the first game its incomparable. But, the vocal version of the main theme for DD2 is fucking amazing.
At first I was bumped out too. But… this actually fit.
Grigori wanted to have a good fight and hadn’t trouble with the Cycle.
But « Royce » on his side didn’t liked the cycle, wanted it to stop and in the end wanted to be done with it. Fulfilling his obligation.
For him you were just another Arisen to defeat for a God who was content to keep his power for himself.
But… all of this you are unaware of it the first time, only getting clues.
To you, « Royce » is the final adversary, the fulfillment of your quest. -and basically the stereotypical final boss of most heroic fantasy adventure stories.-
And the music keep that in mind. Having a more traditional orchestral feeling that is in itself EXTREMELY good. -pretty sur this theme will be dissected in the future.-
It isn’t Grigori theme because it isn’t Grigori you are facing. The fight might be the same, but the underlying plot is completely different.
As someone who doesn't like the OST in 2 as much as the first game, you are wrong. This is a great track.
Because this guy isn't the real enemy.
Also, it's literally better.
@@TheStraightestWhitest yeah the real enemy is the brine (you learn this in the true end of DD2 and eventually defeat the brine for good at the cost of you and your main pawns lives *and no they wont be returning to the rift they truly die alongside you never to return to rift just obliterated like you are*)
both you and your pawn are essentially erased from the world completely but with your true deaths the brine is defeated and the cycle broken permanently.
Y'know, for a game called Dragon's Dogma 2, there's very little dragon or dogma. You don't feel this dragon's presence on the same way you did with Grigori.
With DD:DA you had people worrying that they'd be charred, you opener with seeing your home town attacked, and you had a whole dragon cult. When Grigori shows up, it's already been mentioned that the cult is making some sort of play. Meanwhile with the new dragon, he just kinda gets summoned...
Either way, this dragon i do like, just wish we had more of Mr. Dragon Dogma