The winter solstice which is often tied to the origins of Christmas was actually never celebrated on the 25th December. And Saturnalia was only observed between 17th-23rd December. By the year 221AD, three separate Christian writers (that I list in the video) had calculated the 25th December, as the date of Jesus birth (whether or not that’s accurate is debatable). Emperor Aurelian established the cult of Dies Natalia Solis Invicti on 25 December in 274AD, and decreed this day as the day of the Winter Solstice celebration. This is more than 50 years AFTER Sextus Julian Africanus established Christ’s birthday; 72 years after Hippolytus had done so, and probably at least 100 years after Iraneus established March 25 as the annunciation. No one even said that Christmas was fitted to a pagan holiday until the 12 CENTURY!!! Prior to that, there was no connection even made to a pagan holiday.
CHRISTMAS ISNT ABOUT JESUS AND HASN'T BEEN FOR OVER 100 YEARS ITS ALL ABOUT SANTA, ELVES, AND PRESENTS ITS NOT ABOUT JESUS LIKE IT SHOULD BE ALSO JESUS WASN'T BORN EXACTLY ON 25TH SMH 😮
Here is my question: Paul is writing to the Corinthians. In chapter 5 of the letter, he scolds the church not so much for the sin the man created sleeping with this father's wife, but for the fact that the church tolerated it! Now, Paul is telling the church when they celebrate the Feast to do so 'with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.' What Feast is Paul talking about? Passover (Pesach). If the Feasts of the L--RD (not Israel) are all about the 1st and 2nd coming of our Messiah, why would we want to celebrate a man made holiday.? i have nothing against Christmas. i have fond memories growing up. The evidence is not there for a Christmas birth. Whatever way you want to slice it, Christmas is not in Scripture. i have heard a very good argument that Yeshua was conceived on Hanukkah (Festival of Lights), which puts His Birth in the Autumn. The 'hostility wall that was torn down (Ephesians) is back up higher than it was before Yeshua's Death/Resurrection. I am asking a legit question. Aren't the Feasts that The L-RD gave us good enough???? I guess it's true, ==> "Tradition trumps Scripture".
For those who do not know the now deceitfully concealed but nevertheless the original meaning of the word 'Christmas' means 'end of Christ' - the very reason it was concocted in the first place. Mas or mass in no language means 'birth', and that is a fact. The festival has its roots ENTIRELY in Catholicism - the reason it is every bit Heathen. The 'pagan' argument is just another of the newfound arguments by the pagans who in these endtimes are in the business of reviving Paganism in their bid to hijack the festive season entirely - something that is hugely supported by the pseudo-intellectuals, or the self-professing sons of ape, who no longer call it Christmas but the Winter Holidays or just Holidays. And indeed, ever since, it has become a much beloved 'festival' worldwide, even among the Protestants, so that the business community remains the sole beneficiary of the same reaping a great harvest of profit during the time, while of course Catholicism continues to derive its yearly booster impetus as a result. To all who love nothing but the Truth, ask yourselves why would God refuse to date Himself? Why would the Ancient of Days (Dan 7:9, 13, 22, Isa 43:13...) or the Beginning and the End (Rev 21:6, 22:13) or the great I AM who is the Ominpresent God present from Everlasting to Everlasting, I.e., from Timelessness to Time and to Timelessness (Ex 3:14, 1 Chron 16:36, 29:10, Ps 41:13, 90:2..) NOT date Himself or His mighty Deeds, be it His First Coming or His Second Coming (eg. Acts 1:7, Ps 75:2, 1 Cor 4:5...)??? So that, we who wait on Him are only given the very many undeniable and symbolic signs to help us decipher and recognize their fulfillments at their Appointed Times? Why has God given us NOT A DATE but the perfect and pleasing manner in which we may commemorate His First Coming and proclaim the Fulfillment of His holy Sacrifice, the very purpose for which He came (Lk 21:19, 1 Cor 11:26), just as it was since of old (eg Gen 14:18)?? And, dear Matt, pray from where did you acquire the term 'man-child' in relation to the Word Incarnate?? Let him who will understand, understand.
Santa: He sees you when you’re sleeping, he knows when you’re awake, he knows if you’ve been bad or good…If you’re on the good list he will bless you. Sounds like a pagan deity to me. Everyone talks about having the “holiday spirit” what about the Holy Spirit? The way the average person celebrates Christmas doesn’t honor Christ at all. Modern day Christmas is all about materialism.
Breason Santa clause is actually Saint Nicholas which was a real man in history who was given sainthood. By the Catholic church for his good works..Not the rip off we see today of course !!!❤❤❤
@@lindajohnson4204 How does a flip flop on Christmas Carols and John 1 compare with a decorated tree complete with a star on top and loaded with presents too often bought on a charge card honour GOD? The good words tells us Rev_18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Blessings
@diniathome7930 Who said it honors God to do that? Who is even saying that everything "in" Christmas is godly? Of course it isn't. But because of those ungodly elements, are we going to condemn the Christmas carols along with it? Just everything that is called Christmas must be condemned, and put away forever? What about the false churches? Should we outlaw all churches because many are false? No gathering together for us, because there are gatherings of false believers, teaching false doctrines? We're too "pure" to gather together, because we're supposed to be "separated" from all that is bad, and there are meetings of false believers, teaching false doctrines? I use Chicago, for some reason, but I guess I was looking at a map of Chicago not long before one of these discussions. There is evil within Chicago, but does that mean that there is no good? There are bonafide false believers in Chicago! Does that mean that there are no true believers there? If there are true believers in Chicago, must they leave, because there are false believers there, and they would be held guilty by association? I think there are false believers at Wheaton, and at Moody Institute, but I believe that there are some true believers in both. "Unshackled!" disappoints me, but it used to have a great influence for Jesus, and I'd hope it would again. The point is that "Chicago" is a place, but it is many things, containing all kinds of people. Those people are not coming from the same place, literally or figuratively. Chicago is a lot of things, and what it is is determined by the will of many people of all kinds, with different intentions. It makes Chicago neither all the way good, nor completely bad. Christmas as a whole is not just one thing. People have shaped it according to their own desires and agendas. But the fact that not everything is pure and good, does not mean that nothing is pure and good. But anti-Christmas people demand that we have nothing more to do with anything having to do with Christmas. It is supposedly-Christian cancel culture: 'we have demanded that Christmas be cancelled, and we will not be denied!.' That's what it is like, and it is not godly at all.
Whether it is celebrated or not we can turn it into an opportunity to witness for Christ. He always uses me on holidays to witness to my extended family members.
Fact is ''and an independent fundamental baptist pastor of 11 years speaking here who went to a baptist university to become a pastor & was in an IFB church all my life before that,'' fact is the bible is false as hell all the way through, fact. There are over 800 solid concrete contradictions ''yes solidly concretely fact,'' take for example & I'll name just 1 for brevity's sake, how god says he won't punish the children for the parents sins, but later turns around & says he will to the 3rd & 4th generations. It also gets endless scientific, astronomy, biological, etc, things wrong that we know for fact to be factually wrong. If god wrote the bible he's utterly dumb & hasn't an utter clue whats he's talking about at all. And if there is a god he's the most evil being in existence, a liar, the cause of all evil & loves it. Everyone would do themselves the biggest favor to watch The Lord Who Lies on AronRa channel. And also watch all the great factual very informative videos on channels like Darkmatter2525 & The Atheist Experience & break away from this truly worst of damaging in every way teaching called the bible & the utter bs & worst of damaging in every way bs & evil in it & this worst of damaging thing called christianity. Bart Ehrman is another really excellent one to watch ''as the matter of fact there's also a good one on AronRa channel where Bart is interviewed by AronRa with the title Will you be left behind'' Bart has more degrees & licensing than just about anyone in everything concerning the bible ''there's only 2 other people that has as many as him on this planet.'' They really know the truth and facts about everything and how the bible is really truly solidly for fact FALSE! And Harmonic Atheist is another beyond great channel, endless ex theologians, pastors, Masters of Divinity, apologists, you name it, showing how the bible is absolutely false to the core. What you are seeing here in this video is the damage it has caused this man, psychiatrists know for fact now it literally turns people into sociopaths & that churches are filled with them ''especially the pastors'' & that churches are breeding grounds for narcissists, sociopaths, & psychopaths. I highly suggest you watch the ones I've listed because it all for solid fact is false and that is indisputable & not even debatable at all, that's solid & concrete! And do you even realize how ridiculous what youre saying is ''gods inviting you'' ''god wants a relationship with you'' ''god is speaking to you'' no hes not, he never speaks audibly to anyone, hes the hide and seek champion of the universe! If I say I love you and want a relationship with you, then disappear never to be seen or heard from again and you your whole life is saying this man loves me I have a relationship with him ''and youre constantly making things up in your head your whole life of things you think Im saying to you or telling you to do or that I want while Ive been gone 39 years/havent seen or spoken to you that whole time'' is exactly what christians do, but whats worse you never even met this dude and youre doing that, its truly like christians dont or cant even think about what the hell theyre doing! God has never spoken to anyone, its all in your head I can say that with all certainty and fact. And if god wants a relationship so bad he better come have one and quit being invisible. Fact is you cannot have a relationship with someone who for fact is never here, thats a fact and its ok to not have something/a relationship with someone who is truly not there. Dont believe me, turn to your right, or left, or just look straight forward and say hi jesus, hi god, I love you, how are you? Nothing! You cant have a relationship with something/someone who is literally not there. You can pretend you do and its no different than having an imaginary friend and sitting in a room carrying on a conversation with an imaginary friend who isnt there. And actually for any adult that translates to lunacy and crazy. Ever notice how god never speaks for himself, the almighty all powerful and its so important he has a relationship with you because he loves you so much he doesnt want you going to hell supposedly, but ever notice how he doesnt speak for himself ever, never, but how its always someone else speaking for him saying tinkerbell is real! Wake up and realize how asinine and false it all really is. And the fact god bases you being thrown in the oven forever to be tortured the literal worst torment in every way never ending forever based on if you believe is just asinine and evil. So is an infinite worst of punishment forever based on lets say you live only 18 years and did 18 years of sin. Just like god going to do that to say sociopaths and psychopaths and the horrible things they do to people for the way he/god made them, they had no control over that/how they was born, but god did and made them that way and will punish them forever for how he made them. My god this isnt even the tip of the iceberg with everything and not even scratching the surface. God is a psychopath and the most evil being in existence and Im sure Todd here knows all of this but will perform a show to make massive massive bank and keep it going and is quite sociopathic himself for doing so and peddling whay he knows is false just to make massive bank! Now lets all go read Peter Pan and try not to believe its real!
The thing is that we celebrate once a year our own birthday day so that mean's the celebration of Jesus Christ Son of God the almightys birthday is the greatest celebration in history and the one and only true Religion which is Christianity and no other religion comes close to it as far as I'm concerned ........ the problem is that a lot of people have forgotten the true meaning of Christmas day and made it a day where they can receive as many gifts as possible and also for getting the Greatest Man Lord Jesus Christ who died on the Cross for our sins so when it comes to His birthday we should be forever in debted to Him with all our lives heart's and soul's until the day we die .............
It says in the Bible NOT TO TAKE PART IN THIS. Although the people are harmless they are heathens. I'm sorry, 1 Jesus wasn't born in Dec. 2, to do these things is in vain, per Jesus (see Matthew, 3, I'm sorry Tamuz was born on the 25th. May God send his Holy Spirit to show the truth in the Gospel.
YES! There are many spiritual aspects, all horrible, tied in to this pagan holiday. Jesus hated what the Nicolaitans did and that was to accept the ancient rituals of old. Meaning our pagan holidays still celebrated today. "Come out of her, my people!" I came out and have been extraordinarily blessed with peace, whereas before, while celebrating, I was constantly agonized. Never slept, felt sick, but put on that show for "the people" around me. It wasn't ever for Jesus. It's all a lie.
@@Miles-v8f Our God, Heaven cannot hold Him Nor earth sustain Heaven and earth shall flee away When He comes to reign In the bleak mid-winter A stable-place sufficed Lord God Almighty, Jesus Christ Enough for Him whom cherubim Worship night and day A breastful of milk, and a mangerful of hay Enough for Him whom angels fall down before The ox and ass and camel Which adore Angels and archangels may have gathered there Cherubim and seraphim thronged the air But only His mother in her maiden bliss Worshiped the Beloved With a kiss What can I give Him Poor as I am? If I were a shepherd, I would give a lamb If I were a wise man, I would do my part Yet what I can, I give Him Give my heart -Christina Rossetti, from "In the Bleak Midwinter"
Glad to see others also are listening to the Holy Spirit and forsaking these pagan christmas traditions. If people can’t let go of their practices that clearly offend our Holy Father, then they might need to check their hearts. God hates idolatry. That’s what celebrating the paganized chrismas traditions are. It’s worshipping Nimrod’s birth, not Jesus.
This isnt Biblical!!! What Jesus did on the cross for us is the whole point of the gospal- this is what the word of God commands us to do - go and tell people about the price Jesus paid for their sins so that they can come to true repentance!!!! It is because people listen and follow other people instead of studying the Bible to make sure you do what God say and no man. You will one day stand before God and not this UA-camr - better do what the Lords wants you to do and hate what He hates! I encourage you to focus and trust 100% in the Lord and what is written in scripture let no man deceive you!
If one is celebrating the birth of the Lord everyday, what is the problem in celebrating specially on another day ? If you really celebrate everyday you should be happier to celebrate another day - Christmas - as well. It is satan's strategy to remove the Lord's birth from the history.
Acts 5:29 We OUGHT TO OBEY GOD RATHER THAN men! The fact that there is any kind of debate about this "worldly" event with all its greedy fleshly excesses, commercialism, and idolatry of paganistic decorations, present giving and a tree as a focus point in peoples homes, not to mention "the all knowing santa" has ZERO to do with honoring our LORD AND SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST WHO CAME TO REDEEM Sinners NOT CREATE A Distracting worldly Holiday! We follow THE WORD OF GOD NOT "what some people say" or "traditions of men." IF IT'S IN THE BIBLE, we HONOR it, IF ITS NOT IN THE BIBLE, we DON'T! PREACH THE GOSPEL! AMEN! 🔥📖🔥
That is a great point. Lately I have been thinking deeply about present giving because it’s kind of expected of the occasion. Some people have everything we need and more and we keep giving and receiving. Gift giving is not a bad thing but we should listen to Jesus and give to those who actually need with a generous heart.
I did a study of Luke. Jesus was born around sept/oct. The shepherds were in the field when the birth was announced . The shepherds were not allowed in the fields in the spring as the crops were growing. Winter was too cold to be out in the fields. Autumn was when the crops were planed. So that leaves their summer after the crops were picked.
Its NOT YOUR STUDY its just now known that Jesus was not born, as per scripture and events around that time in December. The harvest was sept/oct and the Jews knew all about timings.
There is stronger evidence that he might have been born somewhere around late march-early april, to coincide with the passover, which would have coincided with the same time period as his death and resurrection.
Most definitely tied and entangled with to pagan roots. Yule is pagan, the tree symbolizes an idol of worship and “good luck”, festive party’s represent the same pagan origin of “ indulging in immoral behavior a “free for all” drunkenness, gluttony, fornication, etc. the Mistletoe represents the symbol of pagan rooted fornication. Bells and lights were used to ward off evil spirits. Bells used to worship the sun god Baal. The word “carol” means to “dance in a ring” (Wicca and druidry) aka witchcraft. The majority of people do NOT even celebrate the birth of Christ (not that Dec is his birthday anyway)…but they’re too busy shopping sales, rushing here and there, taking their kids to the mall to see Satan …I mean Santa!!!!! Churches these days are just as bad as the pagans were. Absolutely disgusting. Judgment starts in the house of the Lord!! 1 Peter 4:17
Please don't look up the origins of words you probably use every day. Definitely do not look up the origins of the names of some of the people you care about. You'll lose your mind.
@@neveling67 I have no local church, but I do want one and try them out when I have the strength. The last one I tried, a year or so ago in November 2023, had more than 20 Christmas trees lining the walls and wreaths and garlands and twinkling lights blathered all over the stage. I gave it my all, but when the choir's first song was "Frosty the Snow Man" I got up and walked out. Another church I tried, it just so happened to be around Christmas, the pastor invited us to the fellowship meal after the sermon. He came to talk to me and my husband as we were eating and the first thing he said was, "Would you like to have your picture taken with Santa? We have one set up in a chair, with elves, in the other room."
@@tessagreer9688 But consider how we are to be set apart. The meaning of "Pharisee" is "separated" one. Obviously, we are commanded to be separate, but the way the Pharisees were "separate", did not please Jesus. They took pride in their separation, They were punctilious about things like tithing mint and cumin, but not so much about the weightier matters. So simply being separate does not please God, but it is all about how we make ourselves separate. Dr McGee used to say that it is not so much about being separated _from_ others, but being _separated unto_ Christ. He pointed out that, at a wedding, the bride and groom are separated unto each other, without the need to be proud or rude to their guests. They can treat their guests very kindly and lovingly, but there is a right separation from them, just the same..The separation is unto each other, and that takes care of their separation from others. It is the right kind of separation, which doesn't require pride or self-righteousness to establish or maintain. They are separated unto love for each other, and that creates all the separation that is required. No born again Christian wants to be like the Pharisees, with the tithing mint and cumin kind of separation, but because Christianity became a world religion, dominated by unbelievers, we can take on the pharisaical attitudes, and sadly think that this conformity to a "taste not, touch not" (the way Paul described it!) way of life is what we need to do to show God we are all in, and on His side. But the weightier matters are left out, and we become proud and ruthless instead of more like Jesus. And any Christian who has been born again through faith in Jesus Christ will be grieved to realize that we have become like Pharisees, expecting God to be pleased by that kind of separation. I don't think any born again Christian is thinking in their right mind, to think that proudly proclaiming their separation from Christmas is better than using hymns and Christmas carols to testify to Jesus. What if someone uses Christmas carols, and the reading of Luke 1, and sacrificial giving to help people in need, to glorify God, but they don't take part in the selfishness and other true corruptions of Christmas? That creates a separation that isn't anything like the separation of the Pharisees! And it is a separation that glorifies God! It isn't drinking of the worldly stuff, but it isn't drinking the Pharisee Kool-Aid either. When I was young, I went through a stage in which I believed that Christmas is pagan, and knuckled under to the church Pharisee-ism that had really broken my heart, and was a harsh burden to my faith, not a help. I still wasn't completely restored when I renounced it, but it was definitely heading back to a strong, trusting faith in Jesus, away from the destructive Pharisee things. And it did break my heart that I had to a great degree accepted those Pharisee attitudes as necessary, but I was grateful that God had shown me that this was not what He required, but there is good food for our souls, and the water of life, and all the metaphors God uses to show us what He is like, and what He has for us.
@@lionoffireraw ...but not Biblically. which is the MOST important! Evergreen trees have been a focus of pagan worship for thousands of years: Deu 12:2 "You shall completely destroy all the places in which the nations which you shall possess served their gods, on the high mountains and on the hills and UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE." 1K 14:23 "For they also built high places for themselves, and images, and Asherahs, on every high hill and UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE." Isa 57:5 "...being inflamed with idols UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE, killing the little sons in the valleys under the clefts of the rocks?" Jer 2:20 "For long ago you broke your yoke and tore up your bonds; and you said, I will not transgress, when on every high hill and UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE you lay down like a harlot." Jer 3:6 "Yahweh also said to me in the days of Josiah the king, Have you seen that which backsliding Israel has done? She has gone up on every high mountain and UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE, and has fornicated there." Eze 6:13 "Then you shall know that I am Yahweh, when their dead shall be among their idols all around their altars, on every high hill, in all the tops of the mountains, and UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE, and under every leafy oak, the place where they offered sweet aroma to all their idols." *Note: These are only a sample of the Texts that define this pagan practice. On top of that, look at king Jeroboam who went down in history as the king "who made Israel sin." (recorded 14 times in Scripture!) "And Jeroboam ordered a feast in the eighth month, on the fifteenth day of the month, like the feast that is in Judah. And he offered on the altar. So he did in Bethel, sacrificing to the calves that he had made. And he placed in Bethel the priests of the high places which he had made. And he offered on the altar which he had made in Bethel the fifteenth day of the eighth month, in the month which he had DEVISED IN HIS OWN HEART. And he ordered a feast for the sons of Israel. And he offered on the altar, and burned incense." (1Ki 12:32-33) ADDING to Yahweh's Festivals is a "SIN" and every element in Christ-mass is borrowed from paganism even if you can't see it, except for the "birth of Christ" which was simply tacked on to appease the blind Christians.
Jesus said, "Do this in remembrance of Me" and it had nothing to do with His birthday. He also gave instructions about baptism, but nothing about His birthday. While it was vital that Jesus be born of a virgin and it is wonderful to read about, there is nothing in Scripture about celebrating Christ's birthday. It is all about His death, burial, and resurrection. The Christ-Mass that people celebrate today certainly does have pagan elements attached to it, but what should be enough for anyone to have nothing to do with it is that it has no beginning in Scripture or the Church, it is a RC invention.
@@lionoffireraw Earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints, not worldly, pagan, pseudo-Christian traditions created by men. In Christian love, Leigh
As believers, I don't think it is worth getting bogged down on these issues. It distracts from the larger point of salvation, something the enemy loves to get us doing. Christmas, whether it is at the accurate time of year or not, can be a unique time to center our reflections on His birth and what this means for mankind, as well as a prime opportunity to share this truth with others that might not be as open as in other seasons.
When the corrupted information online seems too conflicting and overwhelming to comb through, we can lean on our discernment. What does the holiday promote? Greed, covetousness, idolatry, drunkenness, fornication, gluttony, etc. How is it that those with the spirit of antichrist can celebrate it with such zeal? The spirit world wouldn't allow such a conflict. The Santa anagram, Google "old nick", you know, jolly ol' st. Nick and look into all the other icons of the holiday -- Christmas is as pagan as it gets. It's not easy to let go of because of tradition, I went through this, it's hard and especially for churches for financial reasons but if you pursue this question with an open mind, lead by the Holy Spirit, you will find that this holiday is not from God. Besides, Jesus wasn't born on December 25th, every data point in the Bible points to Sukkot - the feast of tabernacles (when God came to dwell with man).
@@lemongate4869 @lemongate4869 ah yes, he who deceiveth the whole world. Fun fact: did you know the world spent around a trillion USD on Christmas last year? We could probably solve world hunger and homelessness for an entire generation if we skipped one Christmas and instead went camping for a night during Sukkot.
I'm leaning more towards not celebrating Christmas anymore. In the Old Testament when the Isrealites chose for themselves how to celebrate and worship god, his anger burned against them and many died that day(Golden Calf). Christmas is a tradition created by man. They're choosing how they want to Celebrate god. It looks like History repeating itself. If that isn't a fair assessment let me know. I'm stilling studying the word and learning the way.
Amen brother, not just the Golden Calf, when you read Isaiah 1 God condemns them for their Sabbaths (HolyDays) and appointed feasts. Lamenting that “even the solemn meeting” is “iniquity”. When we consider how God came to us Gentiles in our pagan Roman occupation (like Israel in Egypt) and chose us to bear the faith. How, like Israel, we quickly turned to idols and sin. I think it’s fair to say these “HolyDays” (Sabbaths) Rome has created fit the same chastisement Isaiah 1 delivers. God bless ✝️🐑🩸
That's accurate my brother. If you didn't read anything about it before, I encourage you to search and read "The regulative principle of worship" doctrine. Jeremiah Burroughs and Samuel Waldrom have some works about it. That doctrine helped me to understand how God is the only one who can dictate in which way we must worship him. We don't have that prerogative.
@@lionoffireraw To apply Romans 14:5 to christmas is eisegesis, and out of context. Romans 14:1 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to dispute over doubtful things. . . 5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. A good summary of the chapter is: Put a higher value on keeping unity in the community of believers than on your personal opinion when it comes to eating meat versus vegetarianism, fasting or not fasting on a given day or about diet in general, “for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit” (verse 17). If we were supposed to commemorate Jesus’ birth, wouldn't the Bible be more clear about when He was born and how we should go about doing so, like it is with His death and resurrection? We know from the Gospels, Lev. 23, and Ex. 12, that Christ was crucified on Nisan 14. And, He instructs His disciples in what they are to do in remembrance of Him. Jesus Christ is Jewish and God's appointed holy days are according to the Hebrew calendar not the Roman. I personally lean towards Jesus being born in the spring. We know that the Old Testament points to Christ, and Ex. 40:2 tells us that Moses was to set up the tabernacle on the first day of the first month - Nisan 1. With Christ being the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, one could deduce that Jesus was born on Nisan 1. Much like the ark resting on the mountains of Ararat on the 17th day of the first month in Gen. 8:4 pointing to Nisan 17 being the feast of First Fruits, when Christ rose from the grave. Keeping in mind of course, the calendar change of Ex. 12 and the complexity of the Hebrew calendar. Celebrating Christ's birth on the 25th of dec. is akin to the Areopagus altar to the unknown god (Acts 17). Many pagan gods are said to have a dec. 25th birthday; such as mithra, dionysus, thammuz, hermes, and adonis. Adding Christ to this list is so very disrespectful to Him, it’s disgraceful. Incorporating trees, wreaths, and the like, along with the activities associated with saturnalia and yule into the birthday festivities is akin to Saul not completely destroying the Amalekites and all that they had, and instead taking of theirs what he perceived to be good and offering it to GOD (1st Samuel 15). Celebrating Christ's birth on any particular day of the year is akin to Nadab and Abihu offering to the LORD that which He had not commanded, a fire that was not authorized (Leviticus 10). None of these things glorify God, they are in rebellion to His instruction. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Luke 22:17-20 states what we are to do in remembrance of Him, we have not been authorized to add anything to this. The Israelites were repeatedly told to tear down and destroy all pagan altars and everything associated with their practices. I have not read anything in the New Testament that refutes Deuteronomy 12:29-31, in fact I would say that 1st Corinthians 10 confirms it. This command, like all of His commands, was given to us out of love. He knows what’s going on in the spiritual realm better than you or I do, and His instruction is for our protection, we would be wise to take heed. To conclude: 1. an idol is nothing, what is being offered to the idol is actually being offered to demons, 2. the things offered to demons are not to be feared, the demons are not to be honored or even given the appearance of acceptance, 3. nothing in itself is a sin, it is a sin when it is done against the will of God, 4. no one can serve two masters, you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons, 5. “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind." Dec. 25th is not Christ's birthday, it’s a designated idol worshiping day. Dec. 17- jan. 6 is a pagan palooza. Participating in the pagan customs of saturnalia and yule is paying homage to demons. Choosing to partake in these festivities is demonstrating love of worldly traditions over love of GOD’s instruction. It matters not that it is said to be in honor of Christ, that is merely lip service. The Holy Father loves His children, He is jealous for them, wanting them all to Himself. The hearts of His children shall not be divided, He will not share them with another. Let not the enemy deceive you. The spirit behind this holiday can be described in three words; deception, consumption, destruction. It is darkness disguised as light. Think about it, neither the humble nature of our Savior nor our faithfulness to Him are being represented in all this flagrant pageantry, but what is? This behavior more resembles that which was displayed at the pagan temples, just not to the full extent of lewdness. Remember the lesson Christ taught through His sermon on the mount - if you lust, you have committed adultery in your heart, likewise if you hate you have committed murder. Just because you're not bowing down before an image or dancing around naked or engaging in fornication doesn't make you innocent of idolatry, it's a heart issue. “Christmas” is quite possibly the craftiest scheme of the enemy of GOD, leading people into disobedience to GOD while they think they are honoring the Lord and Savior. Woe to those who call evil good, for they know not to repent. The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. -Acts 17:30 “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues." -Revelation 18:4 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever; The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold; Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. Moreover by them Your servant is warned, and in keeping them there is great reward. Who can understand his errors? Cleanse me from secret faults. Keep back Your servant also from presumptuous sins; Let them not have dominion over me. Then I shall be blameless, and I shall be innocent of great transgression. -Psalms 19:9-13 Now to Him who is able to protect you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory, blameless with great joy, to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority before all time and now and forever. Amen.
I was not raised in a Christian home and had such a fear of Santa! My parents would use him in the winter months as a threat for good behavior. As though he was all seeing with his naughty and nice list and the coal was the judgement. Was such a blessing when I learned about Jesus, His sacrifice for our sin and the Lamb's book of life!
@dealikeinidea2342 I LOVE this. And yes, it's amazing what we regurgitate the things we've been told. Thanks for your input, I'm being beaten to the pulp on here🤣 And to be clear, if people want to celebrate it, so be it. BUT, to have Matt claim with 100% certainty that there's no pagan roots to this holiday? That's just wrong.
Research shows Jesus was born about September 6 months set apart from the Passover where he died. The shepherds were out late in the evening. That indicates seasonable weather, it's still summer in September in Israel. When you say December 25th you're referring to the Gregorian calendar formed in 1582. The calendar was much different from the situation where Christ was born.
@@GodTurnItAround Ask questions like: were there Christmas trees at the time? And does this apply to other things made from trees like furniture? I would also recommend Mike Winger's take on Jeremiah 🤔.
I feel Christians praise God more in a two hour church service each week and celebrate his life more then any Christmas day with friends and family. There is an illusion they are celebrating Christs life but are they really?
It is besides the point. The reason why they cannot keep Christ in Christmas it is because Christmas was not intended for Christ. Look to the Word of GOD. Look at Succot/The Feast off Tabernacles.
God has told us in His word how to worship Him and how not to. Just because the Bile is silent about something doesn’t mean we can just “do our own thing”. We may say there can’t be anything wrong with it - but 2 priests were killed on the spot in the Old Testament for using something God did not prescribe in the worship of Him. We say we like Christmas - has anyone ever enquired of God if He likes it?
Absolutely 100% pagan in origin. No questions asked on this one! That being said Paul discusses this about considering a day. If a Christian is convicted about Christmas being pagan and participates its a sin. For another if they aren’t then it may not be. However…..Jesus wasn’t born on December 25th and nowhere in scripture that I am aware of are birthdays celebrated. Last comment, try telling your wife that you want to celebrate her birthday on one of your old girlfriend’s birthdays instead of hers and see what happens!
@@vampyresgraveyard3307 I would recommend an indepth study on Luke chapter 1. I think you will discover something very different about when Jesus was born!
If you're not celebrating a pagan god, you're not practicing paganism. My wife and I chose to not teach our kids anything about Santa other than that he wasn't real. However, we did tell them to be respectful to other kids.
Jeremiah 10:1-5 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: 2. Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. 5. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
@@lionoffireraw brother, we chop trees, and put ornaments on them and give each other gifts. It’s a vain holiday no matter how pure the families that practice it are. Praise God!
@@DanielBergerHewitt AMEN. I honestly believe that some of these Bible quoters or even truthers don't want to give up "their" holiday. Dec 25 (starting in August in some places) has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus.
@@lionoffireraw I like Christmas. It reminds me of the innocence of youth. I think if we lose Christmas, we kind of forget about what we used to be. We used to be much closer to God's image when we were small. Imagine if everyone became joyful like that again. Someone recently told me they stopped celebrating Christmas and stopped playing Santa, and I was dismayed. I've always viewed Santa as an archetypal form of God the Father.
We are not to conform to the patterns and traditions of the world, we are told to come out from among those idolatrous practices! We are to do Gods Will and preach the Gospel, we're not here to have fun. We are told to pick up our cross and follow Jesus!!
It’s not a sin to celebrate Christmas, and it’s not a sin to not celebrate Christmas. If we need to remove ourselves from the world, then no one should be on the Internet right now. There’s nothing idolatrous about pointing people to Jesus Christ on Christmas Day.
Amen. Christmas causes greed, gluttony and vanity! Look around people running back and forth and for what? Just to spend your hard earned cash on material things. You don’t need them, feed the poor look after the widow.
@@lionoffirerawComing from a strictly astronomical point of view, the Bethlehem star, which was actually the planet Jupiter, stopped its third and final retrograde over the town of Bethlehem on December 25th. It follows that around that same time the Magi bestowed their gifts on the toddler Jesus. In the book of Revelation it talks about the Virgin rising with the moon at her feet, Virgo is The star sign towards the end of August and beginning of September. This means that Jesus was either conceived or born at around that time. Brilliantly enough, the way the Magi knew that the arrival of Jesus was being announced was because Jupiter, the king planet, was in retrograde motion at the right paw of Leo, the lion over the king star Regulus. King, King, King. That super bright star? That was Jupiter and Venus coming so close in conjunction. It looked like it was one star. It's actually quite brilliant how the star s told the story of the arrival of the Messiah. As was foretold in Psalms and other parts of the Old Testament.
@David_ZARJesus said, "Do this in remembrance of Me" and it had nothing to do with His birthday. He also gave instructions about baptism, but nothing about His birthday. While it was vital that Jesus be born of a virgin and it is wonderful to read about, there is nothing in Scripture about celebrating Christ's birthday. It is all about His death, burial, and resurrection. The Christ-Mass that people celebrate today certainly does have pagan elements attached to it, but what should be enough for anyone to have nothing to do with it is that it has no beginning in Scripture or the Church, it is a RC invention.
There is nothing biblical about Christmas, it is not a sin for anyone to celebrate the birth of our Lord, but we are justified by his resurrection not his birth, there is no one that can nail down the date of his birth. The Roman church that began the celebration of his birth has called it a pagan holiday themselves, God gave the Israelites holy days as a shadow of things to come, they were not holidays. The scripture tells us it is the death, burial, and resurrection that is important, it is pagan in the lies that are associated in the holiday made by man that are so evil, the world celebrates Christmas, we are not of the world.
"It is not a sin for anyone to celebrate the birth of our Lord..." Do you not read in the Scriptures that ADDING to the Festivals of Yahweh is indeed a "SIN?" Look at king Jeroboam who went down in history as the king "who made Israel SIN." (recorded 14 times in Scripture!) "And Jeroboam ordered a feast in the eighth month, on the fifteenth day of the month, like the feast that is in Judah. And he offered on the altar. So he did in Bethel, sacrificing to the calves that he had made. And he placed in Bethel the priests of the high places which he had made. And he offered on the altar which he had made in Bethel the fifteenth day of the eighth month, in the month which he had DEVISED IN HIS OWN HEART. And he ordered a feast for the sons of Israel. And he offered on the altar, and burned incense." (1Ki 12:32-33) He ADDED a Festival (Yahweh's Festivals are listed in Lev 23) that he "devised in his own heart" and this is exactly what Roman Christianity has done, followed by all those who walk in her footsteps!
@@lionoffirerawNo the fourth commandment is REMEMBER the sabbath day & to keep it holy the 7 th day sabbath was put in place at creation it wasn't just for the Jews the Jews didn't even exist then it's for all of mankind it's the only commandment God sanctified & made holy, the roman Catholic Church under emperor Constantine changed the true sabbath to sun day their pagan day of the sun.
@@lionoffirerawyes it is but Jesus said at passover “do this in rememberance of me “ that what his words were to his disciples!! Break bread. And to do it as often as you can. He didn’t say celebrate my birthday. It’s good to celebrate yahushua everyday by giving thanks. Not cause arguments on the internet. A lot of people who can’t afford anything out there, so instead of the greed the world has to offer, make someone’s day and give Jesus wherever you can, you don’t need worthless material goods. Thank him for your daily bread. Amen. ❤🙏🕊
@@lionoffireraw Covenant Law is not the same as GOD'S Commandments, Sabbath day and HIS Feast Days which we are to keep whether we be Jew or Grafted in believers. Jesus fulfilled the Covenant Laws.
You make some good points and I agree that Christians should not be hostile or contentious with each other over this. The thing is, the origins of celebrating a pagan festival on December 25th pre-dates the Roman Empire and Saturnalia. Saturnalia, Sol Invictus, etc, are just later versions of the original mystery religion that believed that December 25th was the birthdate of Tammuz (the supposed “virgin birth” of the son of Semiramis and Nimrod) going all the way back to the rebellion against God at the Tower of Babel. Also, I think that most bible scholars have determined that Jesus was definitely not born during winter months. Some believe, myself included, that He was born in the fall; in September during the Feast of Tabernacles
You’d have to provide historical evidence of that claim. So you at least admit that the origins of Christmas are not tied to Saturnalia and Sol Invictus?
@ 1. Agreed. Do you mean evidence of the “Nimrod/Semiramis/Tammuz” origins of celebrating on December 25, or Jesus being born (most likely) in the fall ? 2. Yes, I do admit that the origins of Christmas are not directly tied to Saturnalia and/or Sol Invictus. However, I do think that these celebrations (especially Saturnalia) have had some influence on how Christmas has been celebrated over the centuries.
Far more probable that Jesus was born during Sukkot. Also separate point from Christmas...but why dont we as Christians just simply celebrate/recognize the 7 Biblical feasts/holy days? They are Biblical and also prophecy of things to come. Tomorrow's World has great education on the 7 Biblical feasts, beginning with Passover and ending with The Last Great Day
@lionoffireraw God's annual festivals have meaning in both the Old testament and new testament, and also prophesy of things yet to happen. For example Passover in the old testament is the scene of God passing over the Israelite homes, and the new testament Jesus sheds his blood and is the ultimate Passover lamb. Another example that includes an old testament scene but foreshadows things to come is the feast trumpets. In the old testament it is called rosh hashana and is a time of rejoicing by the blowing of trumpets. This foreshadows a time of war and plagues concluding with Jesus' 2nd coming. Just like the day of atonement foreshadow the binding of satan at the beginning of Jesus' millennial reign, and the feast of tabernacles pictures the actual millennium. All culminating into the Last Great Day, also called Judgement Day. Not to be dismissed as things only relevant in the past old testament, as many of the prophesied events haven't happened yet. In fact, to be unfamiliar with God's 7 annual feasts is to be unaware of things yet to even happen.
I've came to the understanding not to get caught up in traditions for me I do not celebrate the birth of my own birthday or any other because of the fact the man whom baptised yeshua had his head removed as a birthday gift so as a mark of respect I will not celebrate this tradition of birthday's
Amen! But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth." (John 4:23-24 ESV) See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. (Colossians 2:8 ESV)
The arguments against observing Christmas are old ones and IMO they don't hold water. I don't care if Jesus was born mid winter in the southern hemisphere making it June or July. And I don't care if Constantine overlayed this holiday on the pagan mid winter celebration of Saturnalia. I don't care and billions of Christians across the centuries havn't cared either. What's important is that we celebrate the arrival, the birth of a forpromised Messiah. God kept his promise to the Jews AND gentile. Unfortunately the Jews are now in deep enmity with God for rejecting Him. They have been for 2000 years. And they will remain in deep rebellion against God until they accept HIM. They once were God's chosen......once. Not now. The body of believers worldwide are now the true Israel. And we express that true belief openly when we observe the high holy holiday of Christmas. WHEN exactly Jesus was born is far less important that the fact that HE WAS. THE PROMISE WAS KEPT!!!
As with others, I don’t agree with you either. Jesus was definitely not born in December. December is a winter month in the northern hemisphere. Jesus must have been born in spring or summer.
It is pagan. It's not his birthday, he wasn't born on the 25th. At least find out the day and celebrate it. Oh read the bible about cutting down trees decorating them. Now who did that?. Yes the pagans.
Yes, do read these verses about cutting down trees and.... "carving it into a man and overlaying it with gold and silver... and praying to it, asking for rain or for the idol to bless them with children." Then google " Baal idols" and you will see what they looked like. They look absolutely nothing like a Christmas tree.
Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. Jer10:4,Jer 10:2 Deu_12:30-3, Lev_18:30 Happy Bible reading, Blessings
The idols people worship today are not cut down trees. Idols today are money ,cars ,possessions . These same people for one day a year who turn puritan ,will gossip and ignore the needy . Their are some of the meanest people around. The requirements for Christian’s today .Gal 6-22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
@@ernies8828 wrong. Could not be a better one for me. You see I’m one of the few warriors that will take proper stand for Christ in this “anything goes” generation
I disagree with you. 1. The bible do not state when Christ was born. As believers we should follow the instructions of the Holy Scripture of the appointed times of reverence/rememberance by YAHUAH ELOHIYM (THE LORD GOD) which are The Sabbath, Passover, The Feast of Unleavened Bread. Shavuot or The Feast of Weeks, The Feast of Trumpets, Yom Kippur, The Day of Atonement,and the Sukkot or The Feast of Tabernacles. Following verses:Lev 23:3, Lev 23:4-5, Lev 23:6-8, Lev 23:9-11, Lev 23:23-25, Lev 23:26-32 & Lev 16:29-31, Lev 23:33-43.
It is really not important if we celebrate on the exact day of his birth. We have public holidays for a king/queen's birthday even though it's not their day of birth. It's a date of convenience so everyone can celebrate on the same day together. It really does not matter when Jesus was born, it matters that He WAS born.
His birth is not important. No where in scripture does it say to remember his birth. Scripture tells us to keep the Passover and remember his death...the reason we have a chance at salvation and we can come to him and repent daily for our sins. He doesn't honor you honoring his birth because he didn't command you to or ask you to, that's why his birth isn't even recorded in scripture.
@@nicholehargeI completely agree. No one needs to celebrate. Our Lord is good and has saved us all through His Grace Amen! I was more meaning that it's a bit silly to debate over the date, it's just a way to keep people from the truth. Whether a person celebrates or not is up to them and between them and God. God bless you.
Not celebrating the birth of Christ on Earth (the 2nd most important day in the history of humanity after the Resurrection) while celebrating other days, less important, is absolutely DISGRACEFUL and unconscionable for a Christian. It's the same thing as saying that you don't care about it. Scripture tells us that an army of angels appeared to shepherds that night on the sky, celebrating "I BRING YOU GOOD NEWS that will cause GREAT JOY for all the people". Just like angels said, the birth of Christ should be remembered as a day of great joy. That's what Christmas does, it brings joy. We give and receive gifts as commemoration of Jesus being born in flesh to save us. The idea of not celebrating the birth of Christ, so people would not honor Christ, is inspired by Satan. People come with so many arguments and excuses but the bottom line is, they don't wanna celebrate Christ' birth.
Amen!! I absolutely agree with you except the birth of Christ is the most important event, it's number one, even above the resurrection. Look at how heaven viewed these two magnificent events. The massive, joyous, fanfare of his birth, with thousands of angels and the low key, quietness of his resurrection, with only two angels in attendance. His resurrection was a miracle, his victory over death but his birth was an even greater miracle : God came to earth as one of us.. Just as he said he would.. That truly is the greatest event in the history of the world and worth celebrating.
@@criss6945 So if they church do it people must follow it? No matter if the church have good or bad attentions? If the church make a very dark pagan feast day a Christian feast day, it doesn't make the day a holy day. It's still the same day in the ancient times. And why is Xmas not mention as a holy day?
@@huffepuf3066 The church didn't make a pagan feast a Christian feast day. But REPLACED a pagan celebration with one of Christ. Meaning they cancelled a pagan celebration and put a Christian one instead. What's so hard to understand? The Fathers of the Church wouldn't have taken such decision without praying about it. I fully trust them for they were holy men inspired by the Holy Spirit. The Church is the body of Christ and has fully authority from God. As for Xmas, are u serious?
Why didn’t King Jesus make a big deal about His own birthday? No mention of any celebration for His miracle Birth. Too much focus on the insignificance of the Day
Wow. Is that really what you think of the birth of Christ, when God became man? Insignificant? When Christ was born, the devil tried to stop it, a vast multitude of angels announced it, the shepherds and the Wise men worshiped. It was a huge, huge event. Compare that to his resurrection, which was extremely low key in comparison. Only two angels sat quietly in his tomb. There is a reason why his birth was not in secret and greatly celebrated and Christians continue to celebrate his birth today to prove to the world that Jesus really did come to Earth. He is not a myth.
My wife is setting up her little Xmas things right now; funny this vid popped up in my feed at the perfect time. I see the joy it brings her & it makes me happy seeing her so joyful. Thank you for the facts in your vid. It helps me with my neutrality. I don’t celebrate anything but Christ’s memorial and my anniversary; along with daily life and being grateful for the blessed existence I have been granted. Everyone is doing their best to serve our Lord, Christ Jesus. Since He can see their hearts, I trust He will continue protecting all who call on His name - Romans 10:13 :::: ….|…. “For everyone who will call the name of THE LORD JEHOVAH shall be saved.” - Aramaic Bible in Plain English All other translations say “the Lord”, except for the “corrupted” NWT. 2 Peter 3:9… I pray for all to make it.
God bless you. Can understand the position of neutrality as it has been one that I have adhered to for so many years. Likewise I understand the joy you feel when your wife is also joyful. Perhaps if the celebration of Christmas is actually not disapprove by our creator your neutrality can thus be persuaded to lean towards the direction of your wife's way of celebration. Question: Don't know if you would happen to remember a scripture/passage that has to do with the greater importance of the death of an individual (ie: a life well lived) versus celebration or remembrance of a birth (ie: one that is just beginning and therefore not a day of significance because nothing has thus far been accomplished). Don't know if this sounds familiar but thought I would ask just the same. Thank you for sharing your comment. 🙏
Matthew 7:21-23 (WMB) ²¹ “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. ²² Many will tell me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?’ ²³ Then I will tell them, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.’
@@jolandascholten5057 People would only have a point if the December 25th Roman "birthday of the invincible Sun" was instituted before the birth of Christ - instead of AD 274 ! So who is copying who ?
@@jolandascholten5057 Christ was born in 4 B.C. before going down into Egypt. Herod died soon after the 29th December 1 B.C. Judean lunar eclipse. Christ was then “called out of Egypt” in 1 A.D. when He was FOUR years old - on the 29th Jubilee from the first Exodus Jubilee of 1450 B.C. ( "three days travel into the wilderness to sacrifice", then the FOURTH day baptism through the "tongue of the Egyptian sea" that swallowed up Pharaoh and his army ! Three days in the belly of the earth, then the FOURTH day resurrection ! Three days creation, then "light upon the earth" on the FOURTH day of Genesis ! ) The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December, but Christmas Day is three days later ! On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born ! Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion: Born to die for our crimson sins ! Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ? We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath. Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ? It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32). Why ? The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year. It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread ! That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement: It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us, when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib. On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )]. “Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days). i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple: on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11) Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - FOUR days later ! It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread ! Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us ! Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us. In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says: “For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people. And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30) This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus sixteen: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering. One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness: Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all. ( Pilate spoke the truth ! ) But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover: will ye therefore that I release unto you the King of the Jews? (John 18: 37-39) Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth ! Work Christ's 265 day gestation BACKWARDS on this DSS's calendar from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany CONCEPTION; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th ! Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's LAST GREAT DAY ! Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations ! Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ? 25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia. 2+6+5=13 John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who also prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected. i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January - then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September ! 12 disciples + Christ = 13 Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey.....
I celebrate Jesus' BIRTH, LIFE, SUFFERING, DEATH, RESURRECTION, ASCENCION and OUTPOURING of the HOLY SPIRIT every day! It is time we start to celebrate more broader and less compartmentalized.
As a born again Christian this year I've got to say im really looking forward to Christmas. For me its now a special time to celebrate the birth of our Lord. And im teaching my young ones to remember its about Jesus. Christmas for me in the past was a time to be off work and have a drink and party. But now i feel its a special time to help others be with family and friends and to celebrate the birth of our saviour. Yes i see the materialism and the people out celebrating it that doesn't have Jesus in there hearts and minds... But hey.. maybe this Christmas and the New year there will be a few more lost lambs found, and say, i was once blind but now i see.. God bless 🙏 and Merry Christmas.
I once read that Hannakha, the festival of lights) was created because the temple was cleansed on Dec 25. If this is correct, then it's only fitting to celebrate The Light of the World during the festival of lights
Christmas is not for believers. Jesus does not want us to remain trapped by this world and its desires. We do not need to study the origins of Christmas celebrations, but simply observe the mixture of good and evil that Christmas celebrations are to understand that this is the opposite of what Jesus teaches us about being his disciple.
@lionoffireraw Christmas celebrations involve more than the appreciation of specific days and when and what to eat and drink. Do we who have been led astray by a worldly tradition disguised as if it were from Christ himself continue to set up stumbling blocks and opportunities for our loved ones to fall?
No where in the New Testament is Christmas mentioned as a celebration. We are not commanded to make Christ’s birth into a religious celebration - the Apostles and disciples of Christ never seemed to celebrate His birthday and neither did the NT Church - so we should not celebrate it either. We have no authority to worship as we please or add religious holidays into our worship. As for trees and holly and mistletoe etc. pagans are recorded as decorating their homes with these things for their festivals.
@@lionoffireraw this is splitting hairs! I was referring to spiritual things, things we do in the church to worship our Lord! Humans have always been able to use whatever tools are available to them throughout the Bible history. So long as they do not use them in a sinful way of course! Mankind has progressed by invention of tools.
Though you have presented a very good argument that Christmas celebration on the 25th does not have pagan origins.....a neutral stance is probably not much of a consolation to many Christians. The major problem lies not in its origin but in fact what it has become.
It is not wrong because it is based on the Goddess Mirtha and God says in the book of Jeramiah 10:1-5. Furthermore, Paul the Apostle clearly says in Colossians 2:8 "Don't go after philosophy and vain deceit nor tradition of men or rudiments of the world. Bottom line is no one knows when Jesus was born and Christmas is based on a lie. Jesus is truth nor did he command anyone to celebrate his birthday being no one knows it. It is nothing more than vain worship and God makes it clear. Don't forget about what Jesus said to those Pharisees who criticized his disciples for eating with dirty hands in Matthew 15:3 "Why do ye transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?" Jesus told us how to remember him and it is his Last Supper with his disciples for his death for our sins. What is fact is Christmas was declared by Constantine who worshipped pagan gods and the Catholic church wanted the pagans to be members in the church. They accepted all their idol worship traditions and this is why Christmas is pagan rooted. Matt you have not given one scripture that states it's ok to honor Christmas and it's ok to worship him in this way. In fact, the Christian celebration of Christmas was invented by Romans as a way to co-opt and tame the raucous pagan holiday of Saturnalia, which was itself essentially a celebration of the days getting longer after the winter solstice. www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2022/december/who-waged-the-very-first--war-on-ch!ristmas--.html#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20the%20Christian%20celebration,longer%20after%20the%20winter%20solstice. The bottom line of what I am expressing is the fact neither God nor Jesus Christ told us to celebrate his birthday. Reason being, neither has told any of his disciples his birthday and it being was kept a secret for a reason. Therefore, Christmas is man-made based around lies and the devil is the father of lies but Jesus Christ is truth! Don't let yourself be deceived being you have been wrongfully taught to celebrate such a day that isn't commanded by God nor the Son. We remember and give thanks for his birth and death for our sins in our prayers to him. If it was about celebrating his birth, why everyone stops talking about his birth soon Christmas is over? Think about that.
I addressed a lot of this in the video. (Including Jeremiah 10:1-5). You can’t make an argument form silence. Can you give me one Bible verse that says that you are allowed to use the internet? Just one? Did the Father or Jesus tell you in Scripture that you’re allowed to use the internet I proved historically that Christmas does not have pagan origins. Romans 14 issue. It’s not a sin to celebrate it. It’s not a sin to not celebrate it. The only sin is to tell people that they don’t have the freedom to make their own choice on the matter!
Deuteronomy 18:9 When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. Leviticus 20:23 You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them.
God calls practicing Christmas traditions as idolatry. Jeremiah 10: 2-4: “Thus says the Lord: “Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, For the Gentiles are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the peoples are futile, For one cuts a tree from the forest, The work of the hands of the workman, with the ax. 4 They decorate it with silver and gold; They fasten it with nails and hammers So that it will not topple.” For people who practic such pagan traditions: Jer 10:21: For the shepherds have become dull-hearted, And have not sought the LORD; Therefore they shall not prosper, And all their flocks shall be scattered.”
That has nothing to do with a Christmas tree. That passage is talking about cutting down trees, and using the wood from trees to make idols, and then decorating the idols and then worshipping them. The entire context of this passage, and Jeremiah is the worship, idols. I’m surprised that people think this has anything to do with Christmas trees. It absolutely does not.
@@lionoffireraw You are incorrect. What do you think a christmas tree is? Worshipping trees and adorning them is a PAGAN tradition. They did that in ancient time in Babylon in GROVES. They celebrated Yule logs ( pagan burnt offerings to gods ) They later carried it on in ancient Rome etc. It was then picked up as a christmas tradition later on by the Germans who worshipped pagan idols. The early christians did NOT celebrate christmas. The christmas traditions clearly came from pagan practices. Constantine took pagan practices later on and christianized them. Do your homework.
@@lionoffireraw No, they are not. And you are deceived. We are 2 celebrate Passover, not Easter which is also pagan. In Zechariah, it talks about how all the people's are 2 come to the Feast of Tabernacles...not just Israelites. And that those who do not, will not see rain. And since you go on about the "Old Covenant".....guess where the "New Covenant" is 1st mentioned? In Jeremiah! The same book that talks about the heathen practice of cutting down trees and bringing them N-side and covering them with gold and silver. I don't know how long you have been a believer, but scripture (New Testament) strictly forbids those 'new" in the faith from teaching others. Look how many years Paul had to be instructed by others? And he was first taught br JESUS HIMSELF
The fact that the whole world loves these man made holidays says enough for me. What do we have in common with the world . Nothing. The fact the world loves it should ring alarm bells. Think about that. This is so simple. WHY IS THEIR NO WHERE in the scriptures told to us to celebrate man made holidays of Christmas or Easter.
Jesus says twice in Revelation that He HATES what the Nicolations do.....the Nicolations mixed Christianity with pagan celebrations and traditions That's enough for me to not celebrate the world does
@@lionoffireraw Christmas wasn't 'invented until the 4th century, and it was on this specific day because pagans had the same day as a celebration....the church wanted more attendees so they invented 'Christmas'
Thank you for this, Matt. I haven't commented much lately, but this is really helpful. I grow weary of the "Christmas is pagan" myth as much as I do the myth that the Canon and/or the Trinity were invented at the Council of Nicea.
We are not even commanded to celebrate His birth, so who is man to think that we should?? “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of YHWH your Elohim which I am commanding you. ~Deuteronomy 4:2 There is so much conflicting information online, so as to create confusion. Satan is the author of confusion. My husband has done hundreds of hours of research on this kind of stuff, and he is found that there is 100% proof that Christmas IS pagan in it's roots, and scripture is very clear that we are to take NO part in pagan ways. I would definitely err on the side of caution even if I thought it wasn't Pagan. We are only human and we can always be wrong. There is no consequence if we DON'T celebrate these man-made holidays, but IF it IS a sin to celebrate them, and we do, then there will be a MASSIVE consequence! Why anyone would take that chance is just beyond me! We are only supposed to obey the scriptures, not what man and traditions say to do!!
I’ve proven in this video with historical facts that Christmas is not pagan. there’s nothing to “chance.” Even if it was (which it’s not), symbols and words change meanings all the time. Did you know that the days of the week a pagan? do you use the days of the week? Do you know that Paul pointed to a pagan altar, and claimed that this unknown god was the God of the Bible? People need to think these things through a bit more carefully.
Yes, my husband, through his research, found out that the days of the week, and most of the months names are pagan a few years ago. When we found that out, we stopped using those names and we use 1st day, 2nd day, 3rd day, 4th day, 5th day, 6th day, and Shabbat (Sabbath) as the days of the week. I totally agree that people need to think about things a bit more carefully. Where in scripture does it command that we celebrate the Messiah's birth? It doesn't. But YHWH gave us HIS Appointed Times. Those are the days we are commanded to keep. They are not the Jews Holy Days. YHWH says, "these are My Feasts" in Leviticus 23:2 You always seemed so sincere in your videos, which is why I subscribed to you, but now you seem to act like you know better than everyone else, and there's no possible way you can be wrong. But maybe that's just my perception. We all can be wrong. One day we will all find out what we've been wrong about, as none of us, surely, have every single belief right. Just, hopefully, we have the ones that really, truly matter, right! I say all of this with all due respect and love.
I think it’s actually the other way around with people. I used to believe that Christmas was pagan, until I actually humbled myself and did the research. And then I was able to see the truth that I presented in this video. There’s absolutely no way that someone can watch this video and say that I am incorrect historically. I would ask anyone to show me where I am incorrect historically? Sadly, many of the people in the comments, get very self-righteous about not celebrating Christmas. I have no problem if people choose not to celebrate Christmas, that is not a sin. But to judge others for using their freedom in Christ, is itself a sin. I think my presentation was incredibly humble. I even said no matter what one chooses on the issue is, we can respect whether we choose to celebrate or not celebrate. The thing that I’m mainly seeing in the comments is that those who choose not to celebrate Christmas acting in a condescending and self righteous way, towards those who choose to celebrate Christmas. I also note that no one has been able to provide any historical evidence in these comments that refutes what I’ve said. It’s really frustrating when I go to all the effort to put in the research and presentation, and people simply say “you’re wrong” but can’t provide any information to demonstrate this claim.
@@TravelWithTerahTX True, and the Messiah was born months early. Some say that Christ was born at September or October, but their are some facts that the Messiah was born in a spring month.
I find that it’s religious people who are against Christmas, leave the rest of us alone. I love celebrating the birth of Christ and I don’t care what anyone thinks. My relationship with Christ is personal.
"One of the most striking examples of the exploits of this apostate Church is the so-called Christmas. We want Christ, but we don't need a mass. Originally, December 25, the so-called Christmas Day, was the day when ancient Europeans worshiped the sun. They said that December 25 was the birthday of the sun. When the apostate church spread to Europe, its assimilated this ancient custom, because its had welcomed thousands of unbelievers into the church. These disbelievers still wanted to celebrate their god's birthday. Therefore, to please them, the apostate church declared December 25 as Christ's birthday. This is the fountain of Christmas. The book "The Two Babylon" exposes the origin of the evil, demonic and pagan things that were introduced into the apostate church. If we see this picture on the negative side, then we will know what we should be on the positive side." Watchman Nee
As I demonstrated in this video, the birth of Christ was calculated well before any pagan holiday was observed on Dec 25. It was actually the other way around. Pagans copied Christians and used this date. Historical evidence in the video
@@lionoffireraw THE FACTS AND TRUTH ABOUT CHRISTMAS Christmas, the celebrated birthday of Jesus Christ, was incorporated into the Church in the 4th century. Prior to that time, December 25th was a day set aside for pagan worship. By the 5th century, the Roman Catholic Church ordered that the birth of Christ be celebrated on December 25th. December 25th was the same date of the Roman Feast of the birth of Sol, the sun god. Sol is also known as Nimrod the son and husband to the Semiramis. (Ezekiel 8:14) December 25th is also a time to celebrate Tammuz (the reincarnated Nimrod). In Ezekiel 8:4, the prophet spoke of how the people turned their backs to the temple of the Lord’s house, prayed toward the east (sun god) and worshipped Tammuz. The Lord tells us to commemorate his death through the Lord’s Supper (until He returns). Nowhere does the Lord tell us to celebrate His birth. I Corinthians 11 :26 Christmas is a name incorporated by the Roman Church. It stands for Christ Mass. The Roman Church instituted the celebration of Christ Mass on December 25th, the same date as the idol god’s celebration. The pagan worship was already present when the Body of Christ joined itself to it. I Corinthians 11 :26. The custom of giving gifts was adopted from the acts of St. Nicholas who lived in the 4th century. His legend spread throughout Europe. A Christian figure of St. Nicholas was created, bringing the pagan gift-giving act into the body of Christ. The pagan feast and the Christian Holiday became one. The Christmas tree represents the body of Nimrod and is considered an idol. Jeremiah mentioned the decorating of the fir tree. Jeremiah 10: 1-4. Jesus was not born in the wintertime. Luke 2:8. There are more suicides in December than any other month. There are more deaths in December than any other month. Americans pile up more consumer debt in December than any other month. More persons battle depression in December than any other month. Jesus is not the reason for this season! Pastor, what difference does it make? Why are you so picky? We are simply celebrating Jesus’ birthday. Christmas is a celebration of disobedience to God! Furthermore, you cannot speak into reality that which God has not ordained. If a concept, idea or plan is not in God’s mind, all of our intentions, practices and speeches are not going to change the reality.
I’ve actually proven this to be incorrect. If you see in the video, Christmas was actually first celebrated in the third century. By the year 211 a.d, three separate writers had calculated this day as the day of Christ’s birth (rightly or wrongly). It wasn’t until the year 274 A.D. that a pagan holiday was celebrated on 25 December. This was actually after Christmas we celebrated by Christians, and was a response to the rise in popularity of Christianity. It was also a response to the decline of pagan observances. Your “fifth century” claim is not factually true. In the video at least three Christian writers that calculated this date prior to 274 A.D. The other parts incorporated into the celebration, don’t matter to me, because people can choose not to participate in those practices. As I said in the video, no one should include Santa Claus. These things are rose overtime, and where incorporated into Christmas. Christmas did not begin like that. and of course, no Christian has to incorporate those things. Christmas was celebrated over 100 years before the Roman Catholic Church was even established.
I think celebrating the birth of the Incarnation of the Son of God is something we should do every year. The angels and the shepherds all praised God on that night. I don't think there's anything wrong with us celebrating Jesus' birth, too, even if we don't have the date right.
I used to believe Christmas was pagan and I was holier than thou and refused to celebrate it. Then the Holy Spirit continued working on my heart. This controversy is a snare from the devil to Christians and quite frankly makes us look bad. The bible clearly says that whatever you do WITHOUT FAITH is SIN. We are also clearly told that we are not to judge what days people choose to celebrate as Holy but everything you do, do as unto the LORD. Of course the devil has introduced a pagan element to Christmas; santa and reindeers and elves and materialism which is love of the world. But all of this doesn't diminish the fact that there is as much evidence that Christ was born on December 25 than there is that He wasn't. Also, this is one day the world will allow you to share about JESUS Christ. And this is an opportunity none of us should miss. The last time I checked we were saved by Grace through FAITH, not by celebrating the proper feasts or holidays. This is one of those things that the Holy Spirit corrects as you begin to mature in the faith. Also, if you google the average temperature in Bethlehem, Israel on December 25th, it's between 55°F and 61°F, warm enough for lambs and Shepherds to be in the fields. Be blessed in Christ JESUS our LORD.
I’m glad that you wake up from that deception. It would be easy to fall into it. You sound like you have a really great perspective now. Yes, that whole shepherds argument is easily refuted.
I agree with much of what you shared, particularly about the devil's involvement in the pagan element of christmas and the controversy being a snare to Christians. However, sin is anything that is done against the will of God, not "whatever you do WITHOUT FAITH." The verse you are referencing states that, "But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin." and you are twisting the meaning to make it carry more weight than it actually does. A good summary of Romans 14 is: Put a higher value on keeping unity in the community of believers than on your personal opinion when it comes to eating meat versus vegetarianism, fasting or not fasting on a given day or about diet in general, “for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit” (verse 17). Celebrating Christ's birth on the 25th of dec. is akin to the Areopagus altar to the unknown god (Acts 17). Many pagan gods are said to have a dec. 25th birthday; such as mithra, dionysus, thammuz, hermes, and adonis. Adding Christ to this list is so very disrespectful to Him, it’s disgraceful. Incorporating trees, wreaths, and the like, along with the activities associated with saturnalia and yule into the birthday festivities is akin to Saul not completely destroying the Amalekites and all that they had, and instead taking of theirs what he perceived to be good and offering it to GOD. Celebrating Christ's birth on any particular day of the year is akin to Nadab and Abihu offering to the LORD that which He had not commanded, a fire that was not authorized. None of these things glorify God, they are in rebellion to His instruction. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Luke 22:17-20 states what we are to do in remembrance of Him, we have not been authorized to add anything to this. I have not read anything in the new testament that refutes Deuteronomy 12:29-31, in fact I would say that 1st Corinthians 10 confirms it. This command, like all of His commands, was given to us out of love. He knows what’s going on in the spiritual realm better than you or I do, and His instruction is for our protection, we would be wise to take heed. To conclude: 1. an idol is nothing, what is being offered to the idol is actually being offered to demons, 2. the things offered to demons are not to be feared, the demons are not to be honored or even given the appearance of acceptance, 3. nothing in itself is a sin, it is a sin when it is done against the will of God, 4. no one can serve two masters, you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons, 5. “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind." Dec. 25th is a designated idol worshiping day. Dec. 17- jan. 6 is a pagan palooza. Participating in the pagan customs of saturnalia and yule is paying homage to demons. Choosing to partake in these festivities is demonstrating love of worldly traditions over love of GOD’s instruction. It matters not that it is said to be in honor of Christ, that is merely lip service. The Holy Father loves His children, He is jealous for them, wanting them all to Himself. The hearts of His children shall not be divided, He will not share them with another. Let not the enemy deceive you. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is viewing good as evil and evil as good, and acting in accordance to those views. The reason it is unforgivable is because if you view good as evil, you will not follow after righteousness. On the other hand, if you view evil as good, you will not repent of it. That is to say, blaspheming the Holy Spirit is behaving in opposition to the truth of GOD's Word, and it is unforgivable because the person who does so is not aware of their need for forgiveness, therefore does not seek after it and continues to embrace their sin. Continuing to follow the lie that christmas honors Christ when it is actually in opposition to GOD's instruction for us, is what brings about Isaiah 63:7-10 and 2nd Thessalonians 2:6-12. Now is the time for Isaiah 63:15-19. Grace and peace.
Also, why do you think that it is the one day the world will allow you to share about Christ? Could it be that the god of this world, which is satan, wants to drag more and more potential believers into the pit? "Christmas is quite possibly the craftiest scheme of the enemy of GOD. “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues." -Revelation 18:4
Various religions look to the calculations of Hippolytus of the third century to set the date of the birth of Jesus. According to this calculation, Jesus died on March 25 and he was conceived thirty-three years earlier on the same date. It has been pointed out that nine months from there would give December 25 for the date of Jesus’ birth. Others maintain that Zechariah (Johns farther) was a high priest and was in the temple burning incense on 'The Day of Attornment'. That would be about September. Nine months on comes to June the next year. John was 6 months older than Jesus add six months and we have December 25 . Zechariah was of the division of Abijah and was the high priest. He dis bot serve at Yom- Kippur The Jewish calendar does not line up with ours. It is depending on when the full moon occurs. One of their months can overlap 2 of our months. For example month 1 Nisan the First day of their year fell on March 17 of the year 2018 but on April 6 2019. So we can say that month 1 of the Jewish calendar was between our March and April. Month 2 will be between our May or June etc Therefore Zechariah was in the temple sometime in our May/June or our December/January, NOT September If Elizabeth became Pregnant in June, then she was 6 months pregnant with John in December. Nine months on from then when Jesus was born is end of September/ October. If Elizabeth became pregnant in about our January the she was 6 months pregnant in about are June and that would have mage the Birth of Jesus in our March. There are other factors that show that Jesus was born in September October. The rituals of Christmas are of pagan origin. It should no be what people like the third century **Roman** man Hippolytus thought ***but what the Bible indicates.*** The Bible indicates September/October Hippolytus would have been very well aware of the sun worship. Before Rome adapted the Syrian Sol Invictus they had Sol Indiges (the deified sun) According to Roman sources, the worship of Sol was introduced by Titus Tatius shortly after the foundation of Rome. In Rome, Sol had an "old" temple in the Circus Maximus according to Tacitus (56-117 CE),] and this temple remained important in the first three centuries CE.
Good job, this is another topic where grace is needed when Christians meet with differing view, it's easy to see from the comments those who have much and those who are lacking. My present to everyone is more grace.
Some Christians need to realize that celebrating certain holiday isn't necessary pagan. For example, I have seen christians saying that Purim (the jewish holiday that commemorates the events that happened in the book of Esther) is pagan because it wasn't established by Moses (practically a phariseic argument) even though that Purim is in the scriptures, so saying that Purim is pagan is denying a whole book of the Bible. This is the same logic that occurs with Christmas, its origin isn't pagan and the argument that "it's not in the Bible, so it's pagan" is not a valid one. I have seen christians judging others who put a tree with christmas lights in their house, and that's totally absurd. Celebrating Christmas and having a dinner with your family is not a sin. Giving gifts to your family or friends is not a sin. The fact that a thing is not in the Bible doesn't mean that it's bad. Celebrating your birthday for example is not pagan, and the argument that it is just because only Pharaoh and Herod celebrated their birthdays in the Bible is literal no sense. If a christian celebrates his birthday in a christian way is a good thing, and there is nothing bad on it, and if a christian celebrates Christmas in a christian way, there is nothing bad on it too, and there is nothing bad in having a meal with your family or conmemorating the born of Jesus even if we don't know the exact date. If a christian doesn't want to celebrate Christmas it's okay, but defending that decision with the scriptures and preaching that in God's name is not okay, and it just brings bitterness and confusion. I used to think that if something is not in the scriptures, then it is automatically pagan or bad, but that thinking only makes division. God bless you. Colossians 2:16 NLT So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths. Colossians 3:17 NLT And whatever you do or say, do it as a representative of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through him to God the Father. 1 Timothy 4:4-5 NLT Since everything God created is good, we should not reject any of it but receive it with thanks. For we know it is made acceptable by the word of God and prayer. 2 Timothy 2:14 NLT Remind everyone about these things, and command them in God’s presence to stop fighting over words. Such arguments are useless, and they can ruin those who hear them.
Its not in the Bible. It is a commercial celebration. Millions of people celebrate X mas and are not Christians or believers. It's Pagen. ! Christ instructed us to keep only two Sacraments, and the Lord ,s suppper.
After watching MANY videos on all of these topics, I have to 100 % disagree with you. #1) its a fact that Jesus wasn't born in December, so WHY that date? #2) why do we give gifts to each other, but not to Jesus as the wise men did? #3) the story of santa claus and st Nick are DISTURBING which is 99% of what this holiday season is all about. You really need to pray on this one.
1. That’s debatable and neither here not there. 2. You don’t have to give gifts 3. I advised in the video not to include Santa in Christmas celebrations. This video simply proves 100% that Christmas does not have pagan origins. As I said in the video. Romans 14
@lionoffireraw your 100% is debatable as well and I think we should ALL practice discernment when it comes to the Bible. NONE of us can translate it 100%. And if you say you can, that's prideful?
1) Why should it matter? The dates for Good Friday and Easter/Resurrection Sunday change every year, but we still celebrate them. The exact date doesn't matter. Who we're celebrating and worshipping is what matters. 2) How would we give gifts to Jesus right now? He doesn't want material things. He doesn't want gifts or sacrifices. He wants people to repent and worship him as Lord and Savior. 3) How is Saint Nicholas disturbing? He is depicted as a pious, caring, humble, and generous Christian.
Coming from a strictly astronomical point of view, the Bethlehem star, which was actually the planet Jupiter, stopped its third and final retrograde over the town of Bethlehem on December 25th. It follows that around that same time the Magi bestowed their gifts on the toddler Jesus. In the book of Revelation it talks about the Virgin rising with the moon at her feet, Virgo is The star sign towards the end of August and beginning of September. This means that Jesus was either conceived or born at around that time. Brilliantly enough, the way the Magi knew that the arrival of Jesus was being announced was because Jupiter, the king planet, was in retrograde motion at the right paw of Leo, the lion over the king star Regulus. King, King, King. That super bright star? That was Jupiter and Venus coming so close in conjunction. It looked like it was one star. It's actually quite brilliant how the star s told the story of the arrival of the Messiah. As was foretold in Psalms and other parts of the Old Testament.
Will the shepherds keep their flock out in winter!? Remember how the shepherds were out in the field when Jesus was born? Are we commanded to celebrate Jesus birthday like Herod till He returns or are we commanded to declare His death instead? Does the world so love Jesus unlike what He said as almost all counties (even the Muslim ones like Iran) nowadays celebrate Christmas so hardcore?! What about Jeremiah 10 that highlights that tree? What about the customs of the world we are commanded not to conform to? What about the concept of Santa that children later come to find as a lie and therefore consider God and Jesus to be lie too?? My brother, I can go on and on about the contradictory facts about this satanic Holi (magic) day but I spare you… you know the scriptures…
I have two simple questions to help answer the question of whether one is to celebrate Christmas or not: 1/ Did the early church, ie in the Book of Acts, celebrate Christmas? Did the Apostles? 2/ Was celebrating Christmas ever mandated by God? Answer them both with a sincere response, and there's your answer
1 no 2 no Now answer my questions 1. Did the early church ever use the Internet? 2. Was the Internet ever mandated by God? The point being, that we can’t make an argument from silence. You would have to actually prove that it is a sin to do so. You can’t do this. This is a Romans 14 issue.
@lionoffireraw my questions about Christmas and the early church have more relevance than the use of the internet, brother. Who am I to judge? I put the litmus test down to what God wants vs worldly traditions. Does God want us to celebrate Christmas? I don't think so Is Christmas Biblical or a worldly tradition that came about after the inception of the early church? Worldy, and post early church. Notice that I did not use or allude to any use of the word pagan? Don't need to. Those two questions alone suffice for me, to know that I choose not to celebrate it. The key word being choice. Does that make me a better or worse Christian than others? I'll let the Lord decide that. Please brother, read Mystery Babylon Religion
@5porteno that was ab excellent rebuke. Well said. The internet parallel is glibb and insincere. No one is worshipping or having church services based all around the idea of the internet
I don’t mind Christmas on the 25th of December; that is when we celebrate the birthday of our Christ. What I do mind is al the other weird nonsense like the fat clown in a red ruit, the tree and the whole circus.
Regardless of whether this is true, no Christian should be celebrating Sun-mas (or Satan-mas?). Christ never directed us to commemorate and celebrate the date of His birth. If He wanted us to, He would have made the date of His birthday clear in scripture and either He or the apostles would have encouraged or commanded us to do so. Furthermore, there are only two examples in scripture of people celebrating their birthdays: Herod and Pharoah. Both were wicked men. We must worship God in spirit and truth, not based on tradition. But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth." (John 4:23-24 ESV) Thus says the LORD: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good.” (Jeremiah 10:2-5 ESV) See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. (Colossians 2:8 ESV) And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world--he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. (Revelation 12:9 ESV)
@lionoffireraw, can we truly be certain that Jesus was born on the 25th of December? Historical and biblical evidence suggests otherwise. If the exact date of His birth is unknown, celebrating it on a date rooted in man-made tradition raises the question: how can this be considered worshipping Him in spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24)? Scripture consistently warns us to avoid the leaven of human traditions that overshadow or distort God's commands (Mark 7:7-9). Your argument about the “argument from silence” actually aligns with the very behaviour Jesus condemned in the Pharisees. They imposed additional restrictions on the Sabbath that God never commanded, making it burdensome rather than a blessing (Mark 2:27). Moreover, they added other traditions, such as ceremonial washings of cups, pots, and hands, which Jesus explicitly rebuked, saying, “You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men” (Mark 7:8). If we accept your reasoning, their additions would be justified because God didn’t explicitly forbid those exact practices. Yet, Jesus condemned them for nullifying God’s Word by their traditions (Mark 7:13). In the same way, introducing celebrations or practices that God has neither commanded nor affirmed in His Word must be approached cautiously. Furthermore, Christians should be doubly cautious about celebrating on December 25th because of its well-documented associations with sun worship. Historically, this date was first celebrated as Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (the “Birthday of the Unconquered Sun”) before it was later adopted as the supposed date of Christ’s birth. The first recorded instance of December 25th being celebrated as Christ’s birth is found in a Roman calendar from AD 336, irrespective of whether some “Christian” theologians had proposed it earlier, further highlighting its late and non-biblical origin. Additionally, it has been speculated that this date has roots all the way back to ancient Babylon, marking the birth of Nimrod/Tammuz, approximately 37 weeks after the pagan fertility celebration of Easter (Ishtar/Ashtoreth). By aligning such an important event with a pagan festival, we risk blending the worship of God with the practices of those who worshipped creation rather than the Creator (Romans 1:25). Let’s also remember the abominable practices described in Ezekiel 8, where the people were worshipping the sun, bowing down to it in the temple of God. God condemns this idolatry as a detestable act of rebellion (Ezekiel 8:16-18). As Ecclesiastes 1:9 reminds us, “There is nothing new under the sun”. The same sun worship that was condemned in ancient Israel continues to influence modern practices, such as the celebration of December 25th, and the changing of God’s Seventh Day Sabbath to Sunday (the day of the sun) making it even more crucial to carefully examine our traditions. And let’s not forget Jeremiah 10:2-5, which explicitly warns against adopting the customs of the nations. It describes the cutting of a tree from the forest, decking it with silver and gold, and fastening it so it does not topple. This tradition continues today, with the addition of offering presents beneath the tree, which further elevates it as an idol. If such a practice is clearly warned against in Scripture, how can it be justified as part of worshipping the Lord in spirit and truth? Additionally, Deuteronomy 12:29-32 instructs God’s people not to inquire about how other nations worship their gods or to adopt those practices in honour of Him. The passage explicitly forbids adding to or taking away from what God has commanded, highlighting that worship must align solely with His Word. By adopting practices with pagan origins, even if well-intentioned, we risk falling into the very syncretism God condemns. Worship should not only be sincere but also consistent with God's Word, free from the influence of human traditions, and honour God in the way He has commanded-not in ways borrowed from the world.
Here are the scriptures regarding pagan worships days: Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. Jeremiah 10:1-5 Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel. Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good.”
To all who seek nothing but the Truth, ask yourselves why does God who is the Ancient of Days (Dan 7:9, 13, 21, Isa 43:13..), the Beginning and the End (Rev 21:6, 22:13), the God who is from Everlasting to Everlasting (1 Chron 16:36, 29:10, Ps 41:13, 90:2...), the great I AM (Ex 3:14, Isa 43:10-13, Heb 13:8..) or the Ominpresent God present through all times of Timelessness to Time and back to Timelessness again, refuse to date Himself or His mighty Deeds - whether it is His fulfilled First Coming or His forthcoming Second Coming and all the rest of it (eg. Acts 1:7, Ps 75:2, 1 Cor 4:5..)??? Why has He instead given us very many undeniable and symbolic Signs to help us decipher and recognize them?? Why has He taught us the only holy, eternal, perfect and pleasing manner by which we may truly commemorate His First Coming and the Fulfillment of His holy Sacrifice thereof - refer Lk 21:19, 1 Cor 11:26.. - just as it was meant to be since of old (eg. Gen 14:18)?? Let him who will understand, understand! For all those who are unaware, the now concealed but nevertheless the true meaning of the word 'Christmas' is 'end of Christ' - the very reason for which it was concocted in the first place. In no language does the word 'mas' or 'mass' means 'birth', and that is a fact. Christmas has its roots ENTIRELY in Catholicism and hence Heathen in nature. The pagan angle is the newfound argument devised by these endtimes revival of Paganism in their bid to hijack the festivities entirely for themselves. The reason the pseudo-intellectuals or the self-professing sons of ape lend them their huge support/following, so much so that it has come to be hugely celebrated worldwide, irrespectivecof nationality, language or religion, oh yes even by the Protestants themselves, under the new name of Winter Holidays or just Holidays - its sole beneficiary being the global business community who reap a huge profit - whilst of course also giving Catholicism its annual booster impetus. Finally, dear Matt, pray do tell from whence have you acquired the title 'Man-child' in reference to the Word Incarnate??
@lionoffireraw Thank you for finally responding to me, though it did not surprise me one bit that you like the rest of them out there, choose rather to ignore my faithful ministry of the Word. And, as for the usage of the term 'Man-child', yes, I admit in my haste I confused 'Magi' for 'Man-child' at about 4:31 owing to the difference in our pronunciation of the word 'Magi'. I am utterly sensitive and averse to any reference of Christ as 'Man' or 'Man-child' which as you have seen all churches without exception do.
@@lionoffireraw I have admitted to my misunderstanding citing the very sensitive reason behind it. But as you can see, I have not apologized as I see no reason to. As it is I have no desire to cater to your pride.
@@lionoffirerawwhat about Jeremiah....do not deck the trees in silver and gold? The yule? The mistletoe? Alllll of those have pagan origins, there's no getting around it?
Christmas itself was not a holiday in the Bible. You are reaching. There are always going to be pagan beliefs, called duality, at any Christian belief on that holiday. Easter has Ishtar and witches believe their pagan status on December days. But what you are missing is Easter and Christmas in actuality are based on the origins of Christ, not Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Ishtar, witchcraft and paganism. I understand wreaths, for example, are supposed to represent feminism, but icons and decorations are not the true meaning of Christmas, Thanksgiving and Easter my friend. It is undeniable. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
@@CoooolAsACucumberIf you read it for what Jeremiah was actually saying, he was talking about making a gold or silver idol, not a Christmas tree. It doesn't take a skilled worker in wood to cut down a Christmas tree. It does take a skilled worker in wood to sculpt an idol out of wood, and then to hammer out gold or silver into thin sheets, then covering the surface with that metal, conforming it to the shape with hammers, and nailing it into place, which is exactly how they made gold or silver idols. They were wooden sculptures, which were covered with gold or silver. All of that took some skill. No skilled artisan necessary to cut down a tree, anymore than to cut some firewood, which Jeremiah also shows the sculptor doing: he makes an idol with part of the tree, then uses the rest to cook his supper. The English word, "deck" also has the sense of covering a surface (just like a "deck" of a house or a ship), not like "deck the halls with boughs of holly". But people who just want to condemn, assume that decking means decorating the halls/house with Christmas decorations, and condemn people for putting an old plastic bell on the tree, with a mylar coating under the plastic which makes it look sort of like gold. This proves "idolatry" in their eyes, but it does not really prove that at all.
The part that you're failing to mention to your viewers is that Christmas didn't come from the Roman Holiday. It came from the Germanic Tribes celebration of yule. I will break it down for your viewers and afterwards we can have a discussion on it if you would like: 1. Almost every Yule tradition has been adopted into Christmas. A. Evergreen tree with decorations. B. The drinking of eggnog has been adopted by Christmas. C. Leaving out milk and cookies has been adopted by Christmas. D. Singing songs have been adopted by Christmas. The name is still mentioned today " Yuletide caroling" Any many more traditions that are originally celebrated by pagans to celebrate Yule. 2. Haakon I Adalsteinsfostre or Haakon the Good) a king of Norway, who ruled in the 10th century, the Norse Yule celebration and Christian Christmas celebration were merged during his reign. In many countries still in Europe Christmas as a word does not exist but yule does and it is used for Christmas. I would love to go into detail with you or any of your viewers that are interested and learning more about history. 3. To say that there is no early writings when the church burned everything when they forced people to convert by killings and beatings it's not a solid argument to stand on. My argument to you is a simple question. And most Christians will not and cannot answer. Which is a red flag in itself: Why is there no early mentions of Christmas from the church fathers in early writer? Can you please answer that question until then no Christian has a leg to stand on 🤷 I would challenge you to a discussion or a debate. If you're Jesus is with you as you claim let's see how he stands against my Thor!
10th century?? The historical facts in this video show that 25 Dec was calculated as Christ’s birth (rightly or wrongly) by three Christian writers by the year 221AD. This predates the 10th century by over 750 years!!! Just because people have added different practices into it, doesn’t mean a thing. It doesn’t mean that we have to adopt them either (as I mentioned in this video). We can celebrate Christmas in a way that predates all of this! I appreciate your effort in posting what you did, but it misses the mark on these multiple levels!!!
It doesn't matter actually. Jesus, nor the apostles or angles instituted a feast in observance to the birth of Jesus. The only holy day we have to observe is the Lord's Day, and the only celebration in which some ornaments are used is in the Lord's Supper. Any other feast is an invention of man, and must be condemned.
Not true. Pagan deities and the worship of them is condemned in Scripture. Celebrating the birth of the incarnate Son of God is not. The angels and shepherds worshipped and praised God for Jesus' birth, so why shouldn't we?
@@YouDontKnowMeSoYouDontKnowJack I'm not gonna argument everything here, but I'd recommend you to read the "Regulative principle of worship" doctrine. Basically, we're commanded to worship in the way the Lord wants, not with our inventions.
@lgok I don't need to read any uninspired thing written by man to know what the Bible says about the issue. Celebrating the birth of Christ on a day that may or may not have a connection to some pagan tradition outside of Christianity is not condemned anywhere in the Bible.
@@YouDontKnowMeSoYouDontKnowJack You don't read anything besides the Bible then? Whether that be commentaries, doctrines, theological studies? You are denying that God iluminated people during the reformation? Are you even close to the piety of those who were willing to put their life for the truth?
@@lgok Not what I said. I said "I don't need to read any uninspired thing written by man to know what the Bible says about the issue." There's a difference. I do read other works, but the Bible comes first and, even though if it were all I had, I wouldn't need anything else. Celebrating Jesus' birth isn't pagan; the angels and shepherds did it on the night he was born and the wise men also a couple years later. It also doesn't violate a single prohibition in the Bible. You know, I used to have a book about various pagan celebrations throughout the year and you could pick literally any other date to celebrate Jesus' birth and there would be a pagan celebration on or close to the date. Don't celebrate Christmas if you don't want to, but practice some grace and don't self-righteously condemn people who do.
Thank you so much for clarifying this. There seems to be very strong views about Christmas now from so many Christians and it has really confused me and created a lot of guilt, so I am going on my own journey to work this out, but it certainly helps to know it isn't based on pagan beginnings. I have always believed Christmas is a wonderful opportunity to share Christ and feel that yes we need to be careful what we include in this celebration but it is fine to rejoice in Jesus' birth and the goodness of God.
There has to be a special day to acknowledge the one who scripture says was born to save us from our sins. He was born to die for us. You have to have the first advent , coming, before the second can happen.
As I said, it’s not a sin to celebrate Christmas, and it’s not as in not to celebrate Christmas. Each one has the freedom in Christ to make their own choice 🙏 When one claims that a person does not have this freedom, then it is the person making this claim who sins!
Santa comes from st Nicholas a Catholic that gave gifts to children on Christmas or around that time. People that say santa is Satan they don't know history and they don't know what they are talking about those people either too lazy to do proper research or they just take rumours from people that they don't know what there talking.
@lionoffireraw its all about who you choose to believe. If you ask the world whether it's festivals and holy days have evil origins, you are going to get a convenient answer that reassures you that they aren't. But that doesn't mean that they aren't. Its simply the worlds version of facts/truth.
No, it’s historical fact. That’s like saying the fact that George Washington was the first US president is “the world’s version” of historical evidence. History doesn’t work like that!
Analyze Luke chapter 1 carefully. Take your time. Graph it out. Pay CLOSE attention to verse 36 and 41 through 44. Think think think. Jesus was born in the spring!
@ Yes I totally understand there is lots of debate. I think we can learn a lesson from the fact that the Bible doesn’t explicitly give us a birthdate. I highly doubt it’s an “oversight” since the Bible is perfection! That being said, once you really take a hard look at Luke chapter 1 it’s hard to see how it’s not spring. Worthy of study.
Their arguments against the Shepherd objection. This includes the temperature at this time of the year in Bethlehem. It could have easily been in December. I’m not saying that it definitely was, but we definitely can’t rule it out either.
@ I agree with that. There is also the difficulty of travel issue for the census based on the general weather status at that time of the year. But I think the biggest argument against is that thorough reading of Luke 1!
The very word ‘Christmas’ is Roman Catholic in origin… The Original word being Christ Mass… later being condensed to Christmas. Christmas is not found in scripture, our only anchor of truth, neither any example of the Apostles and disciples celebrating the birth of Christ. Roman Catholicism is not Christianity but pagan… therefore Christmas (Christ Mass) is of an unbiblical pagan origin, case closed. This was understood in the days of the reformation. Early church leaders, including Charles Spurgeon, wrote against the celebration of Christ Mass. Here in the United States the celebration of Christ Mass was forbidden. Those that defend the celebration of Christmas, must hold up both the bible and tradition in front of themselves, and determine which they are chasing after.
Something else to think about here. Christmas is perhaps the world’s MOST celebrated holiday. Why would the world celebrate Christmas, if Christmas were truly about Jesus? Sure… the church would celebrate a holiday about Jesus, but the world? Jesus was not deceiving us when he said, ““The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.” John 7:7 KJV When I first examined this topic, I observed a lesbian witch that I worked with, come into the Post Office one morning and decorate her area with Christmas decorations, as she wore her Santa hat and sang Christmas songs. It clicked that she hates Jesus, so why would she love Christmas to such a great degree? The bible is not silent on Christmas, it tells us to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, not to be unequally yoked together with unbelievers, not to mix the holy with the profane, friendship with the world is enmity against God, and my personal favorite: traditions of men make the word of God of none effect. Ceasing to celebrate Christmas has been the most difficult thing for me to face since I was born again. Not only was that chain of family tradition broken at me, others look at me as a zealot, and my own family gets extremely angry with me this time of year. I do not criticize their decision to continue their traditions, I simply draw the line at not celebrating Christ Mass in my home. All this persecution for what? Are they able to persecute me using the scripture as a foundation? I think not. Why the persecution? Anyone who has taken a biblical stance against Christmas understands where I am coming from, undoubtedly they have seen persecution as well. Christians can be the most loving and kind people, until you interfere with their unbiblical traditions. By the way… every day of the year is a good day to evangelize Jesus Christ… not just the Christ Mass season. Contrary to popular belief, the world is not more open to Jesus during this season. They hate Jesus, and cannot find him in Christmas. Rightfully so, because Christ Mass is only a Pagan Roman Catholic tradition.
Name aside, the celebration of Christmas birth on 25 December started over 100 years before the Roman Catholic Church even began to exist in the fourth century (and over 50 years before any pagan holiday was celebrated on this day) - see pinned comment for historical facts. Do some research people!! We use names today with pagan origins. The days of the week. Do you ever use those names? (Just one of many examples). Romans 14 issue.
Love it. I have struggled with this issue and the verse in Jeremiah was used to avoid setting up a tree. When I read it I came to the same conclusion as you have. I think the question to ask is what would a Jesus do? Is it a tradition to keep or not? Does it bring glory to God and Christ? Is self glorified? Are we willing to give it up if we have to? I enjoy the Christmas music on the radio at this time of year. The woke agenda has been trying to change the word Christmas to Happy Holidays. That changes the meaning and focus.
Santa does have Christian roots, in that he was based on the character of St Nicolas or Bishop Nicholas of Myra, in modern day Turkey. Nicholas was believed to be one the 180 bishops who attended Emperor Constantine's first Council of Nicaea, also in Turkey, in 325AD where amongst other matters, the Nicene Creed, part of the Profession of Faith, was formulated.
Whether it has ties to paganism or not, at the end of the day, it's a time where we believers can gather together to recognize and celebrate God's grand plan for the world come to pass.
The winter solstice which is often tied to the origins of Christmas was actually never celebrated on the 25th December. And Saturnalia was only observed between 17th-23rd December.
By the year 221AD, three separate Christian writers (that I list in the video) had calculated the 25th December, as the date of Jesus birth (whether or not that’s accurate is debatable).
Emperor Aurelian established the cult of Dies Natalia Solis Invicti on 25 December in 274AD, and decreed this day as the day of the Winter Solstice celebration. This is more than 50 years AFTER Sextus Julian Africanus established Christ’s birthday; 72 years after Hippolytus had done so, and probably at least 100 years after Iraneus established March 25 as the annunciation.
No one even said that Christmas was fitted to a pagan holiday until the 12 CENTURY!!! Prior to that, there was no connection even made to a pagan holiday.
CHRISTMAS ISNT ABOUT JESUS AND HASN'T BEEN FOR OVER 100 YEARS ITS ALL ABOUT SANTA, ELVES, AND PRESENTS ITS NOT ABOUT JESUS LIKE IT SHOULD BE ALSO JESUS WASN'T BORN EXACTLY ON 25TH SMH 😮
In other words, people do your research, disregard the online gotcha content on it, and follow your convictions without judging others 😎.
Here is my question: Paul is writing to the Corinthians. In chapter 5 of the letter, he scolds the church not so much for the sin the man created sleeping with this father's wife, but for the fact that the church tolerated it! Now, Paul is telling the church when they celebrate the Feast to do so 'with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.'
What Feast is Paul talking about? Passover (Pesach). If the Feasts of the L--RD (not Israel) are all about the 1st and 2nd coming of our Messiah, why would we want to celebrate a man made holiday.? i have nothing against Christmas. i have fond memories growing up. The evidence is not there for a Christmas birth. Whatever way you want to slice it, Christmas is not in Scripture. i have heard a very good argument that Yeshua was conceived on Hanukkah (Festival of Lights), which puts His Birth in the Autumn. The 'hostility wall that was torn down (Ephesians) is back up higher than it was before Yeshua's Death/Resurrection. I am asking a legit question. Aren't the Feasts that The L-RD gave us good enough????
I guess it's true, ==> "Tradition trumps Scripture".
The angels celebrated Jesus's birth. That's good enough for me.
For those who do not know the now deceitfully concealed but nevertheless the original meaning of the word 'Christmas' means 'end of Christ' - the very reason it was concocted in the first place. Mas or mass in no language means 'birth', and that is a fact. The festival has its roots ENTIRELY in Catholicism - the reason it is every bit Heathen. The 'pagan' argument is just another of the newfound arguments by the pagans who in these endtimes are in the business of reviving Paganism in their bid to hijack the festive season entirely - something that is hugely supported by the pseudo-intellectuals, or the self-professing sons of ape, who no longer call it Christmas but the Winter Holidays or just Holidays. And indeed, ever since, it has become a much beloved 'festival' worldwide, even among the Protestants, so that the business community remains the sole beneficiary of the same reaping a great harvest of profit during the time, while of course Catholicism continues to derive its yearly booster impetus as a result.
To all who love nothing but the Truth, ask yourselves why would God refuse to date Himself? Why would the Ancient of Days (Dan 7:9, 13, 22, Isa 43:13...) or the Beginning and the End (Rev 21:6, 22:13) or the great I AM who is the Ominpresent God present from Everlasting to Everlasting, I.e., from Timelessness to Time and to Timelessness (Ex 3:14, 1 Chron 16:36, 29:10, Ps 41:13, 90:2..) NOT date Himself or His mighty Deeds, be it His First Coming or His Second Coming (eg. Acts 1:7, Ps 75:2, 1 Cor 4:5...)??? So that, we who wait on Him are only given the very many undeniable and symbolic signs to help us decipher and recognize their fulfillments at their Appointed Times? Why has God given us NOT A DATE but the perfect and pleasing manner in which we may commemorate His First Coming and proclaim the Fulfillment of His holy Sacrifice, the very purpose for which He came (Lk 21:19, 1 Cor 11:26), just as it was since of old (eg Gen 14:18)??
And, dear Matt, pray from where did you acquire the term 'man-child' in relation to the Word Incarnate??
Let him who will understand, understand.
Santa: He sees you when you’re sleeping, he knows when you’re awake, he knows if you’ve been bad or good…If you’re on the good list he will bless you. Sounds like a pagan deity to me. Everyone talks about having the “holiday spirit” what about the Holy Spirit?
The way the average person celebrates Christmas doesn’t honor Christ at all. Modern day Christmas is all about materialism.
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Santa clause is actually Saint Nicholas which was a real man in history who was given sainthood. By the Catholic church for his good works..Not the rip off we see today of course !!!❤❤❤
@@m4xx895 Wannabe omniscient, omnipresent demonic garbage.
@@m4xx895 But if you used Christmas carols and John 1 to glorify Jesus, you would not need to take part in Santa Claus at all.
@@lindajohnson4204 How does a flip flop on Christmas Carols and John 1 compare with a decorated tree complete with a star on top and loaded with presents too often bought on a charge card honour GOD? The good words tells us Rev_18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Blessings
@diniathome7930 Who said it honors God to do that? Who is even saying that everything "in" Christmas is godly? Of course it isn't. But because of those ungodly elements, are we going to condemn the Christmas carols along with it? Just everything that is called Christmas must be condemned, and put away forever? What about the false churches? Should we outlaw all churches because many are false? No gathering together for us, because there are gatherings of false believers, teaching false doctrines? We're too "pure" to gather together, because we're supposed to be "separated" from all that is bad, and there are meetings of false believers, teaching false doctrines?
I use Chicago, for some reason, but I guess I was looking at a map of Chicago not long before one of these discussions. There is evil within Chicago, but does that mean that there is no good? There are bonafide false believers in Chicago! Does that mean that there are no true believers there? If there are true believers in Chicago, must they leave, because there are false believers there, and they would be held guilty by association? I think there are false believers at Wheaton, and at Moody Institute, but I believe that there are some true believers in both. "Unshackled!" disappoints me, but it used to have a great influence for Jesus, and I'd hope it would again.
The point is that "Chicago" is a place, but it is many things, containing all kinds of people. Those people are not coming from the same place, literally or figuratively. Chicago is a lot of things, and what it is is determined by the will of many people of all kinds, with different intentions. It makes Chicago neither all the way good, nor completely bad. Christmas as a whole is not just one thing. People have shaped it according to their own desires and agendas. But the fact that not everything is pure and good, does not mean that nothing is pure and good. But anti-Christmas people demand that we have nothing more to do with anything having to do with Christmas. It is supposedly-Christian cancel culture: 'we have demanded that Christmas be cancelled, and we will not be denied!.' That's what it is like, and it is not godly at all.
Whether it is celebrated or not we can turn it into an opportunity to witness for Christ. He always uses me on holidays to witness to my extended family members.
Fact is ''and an independent fundamental baptist pastor of 11 years speaking here who went to a baptist university to become a pastor & was in an IFB church all my life before that,'' fact is the bible is false as hell all the way through, fact. There are over 800 solid concrete contradictions ''yes solidly concretely fact,'' take for example & I'll name just 1 for brevity's sake, how god says he won't punish the children for the parents sins, but later turns around & says he will to the 3rd & 4th generations. It also gets endless scientific, astronomy, biological, etc, things wrong that we know for fact to be factually wrong. If god wrote the bible he's utterly dumb & hasn't an utter clue whats he's talking about at all. And if there is a god he's the most evil being in existence, a liar, the cause of all evil & loves it. Everyone would do themselves the biggest favor to watch The Lord Who Lies on AronRa channel. And also watch all the great factual very informative videos on channels like Darkmatter2525 & The Atheist Experience & break away from this truly worst of damaging in every way teaching called the bible & the utter bs & worst of damaging in every way bs & evil in it & this worst of damaging thing called christianity. Bart Ehrman is another really excellent one to watch ''as the matter of fact there's also a good one on AronRa channel where Bart is interviewed by AronRa with the title Will you be left behind'' Bart has more degrees & licensing than just about anyone in everything concerning the bible ''there's only 2 other people that has as many as him on this planet.'' They really know the truth and facts about everything and how the bible is really truly solidly for fact FALSE! And Harmonic Atheist is another beyond great channel, endless ex theologians, pastors, Masters of Divinity, apologists, you name it, showing how the bible is absolutely false to the core. What you are seeing here in this video is the damage it has caused this man, psychiatrists know for fact now it literally turns people into sociopaths & that churches are filled with them ''especially the pastors'' & that churches are breeding grounds for narcissists, sociopaths, & psychopaths. I highly suggest you watch the ones I've listed because it all for solid fact is false and that is indisputable & not even debatable at all, that's solid & concrete! And do you even realize how ridiculous what youre saying is ''gods inviting you'' ''god wants a relationship with you'' ''god is speaking to you'' no hes not, he never speaks audibly to anyone, hes the hide and seek champion of the universe! If I say I love you and want a relationship with you, then disappear never to be seen or heard from again and you your whole life is saying this man loves me I have a relationship with him ''and youre constantly making things up in your head your whole life of things you think Im saying to you or telling you to do or that I want while Ive been gone 39 years/havent seen or spoken to you that whole time'' is exactly what christians do, but whats worse you never even met this dude and youre doing that, its truly like christians dont or cant even think about what the hell theyre doing! God has never spoken to anyone, its all in your head I can say that with all certainty and fact. And if god wants a relationship so bad he better come have one and quit being invisible. Fact is you cannot have a relationship with someone who for fact is never here, thats a fact and its ok to not have something/a relationship with someone who is truly not there. Dont believe me, turn to your right, or left, or just look straight forward and say hi jesus, hi god, I love you, how are you? Nothing! You cant have a relationship with something/someone who is literally not there. You can pretend you do and its no different than having an imaginary friend and sitting in a room carrying on a conversation with an imaginary friend who isnt there. And actually for any adult that translates to lunacy and crazy. Ever notice how god never speaks for himself, the almighty all powerful and its so important he has a relationship with you because he loves you so much he doesnt want you going to hell supposedly, but ever notice how he doesnt speak for himself ever, never, but how its always someone else speaking for him saying tinkerbell is real! Wake up and realize how asinine and false it all really is. And the fact god bases you being thrown in the oven forever to be tortured the literal worst torment in every way never ending forever based on if you believe is just asinine and evil. So is an infinite worst of punishment forever based on lets say you live only 18 years and did 18 years of sin. Just like god going to do that to say sociopaths and psychopaths and the horrible things they do to people for the way he/god made them, they had no control over that/how they was born, but god did and made them that way and will punish them forever for how he made them. My god this isnt even the tip of the iceberg with everything and not even scratching the surface. God is a psychopath and the most evil being in existence and Im sure Todd here knows all of this but will perform a show to make massive massive bank and keep it going and is quite sociopathic himself for doing so and peddling whay he knows is false just to make massive bank! Now lets all go read Peter Pan and try not to believe its real!
Indeed, because many Atheists celebrate Christmas.
Did you put your Yule tree up yet?
The thing is that we celebrate once a year our own birthday day so that mean's the celebration of Jesus Christ Son of God the almightys birthday is the greatest celebration in history and the one and only true Religion which is Christianity and no other religion comes close to it as far as I'm concerned ........ the problem is that a lot of people have forgotten the true meaning of Christmas day and made it a day where they can receive as many gifts as possible and also for getting the Greatest Man Lord Jesus Christ who died on the Cross for our sins so when it comes to His birthday we should be forever in debted to Him with all our lives heart's and soul's until the day we die .............
It says in the Bible NOT TO TAKE PART IN THIS. Although the people are harmless they are heathens. I'm sorry, 1 Jesus wasn't born in Dec. 2, to do these things is in vain, per Jesus (see Matthew, 3, I'm sorry Tamuz was born on the 25th.
May God send his Holy Spirit to show the truth in the Gospel.
Amen! I think Matt doesn't want to let go of this vain worship practice that has been ingrained into us all our childhood life.
Rightttttttttttt....Tammuz, Mithra, Hercules, and a slew of others. Bravo you know the truth!!! Thrills my heart.
YES! There are many spiritual aspects, all horrible, tied in to this pagan holiday. Jesus hated what the Nicolaitans did and that was to accept the ancient rituals of old. Meaning our pagan holidays still celebrated today. "Come out of her, my people!" I came out and have been extraordinarily blessed with peace, whereas before, while celebrating, I was constantly agonized. Never slept, felt sick, but put on that show for "the people" around me. It wasn't ever for Jesus. It's all a lie.
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Our God, Heaven cannot hold Him
Nor earth sustain
Heaven and earth shall flee away
When He comes to reign
In the bleak mid-winter
A stable-place sufficed
Lord God Almighty, Jesus Christ
Enough for Him whom cherubim
Worship night and day
A breastful of milk, and a mangerful of hay
Enough for Him whom angels fall down before
The ox and ass and camel
Which adore
Angels and archangels may have gathered there
Cherubim and seraphim thronged the air
But only His mother in her maiden bliss
Worshiped the Beloved
With a kiss
What can I give Him
Poor as I am?
If I were a shepherd, I would give a lamb
If I were a wise man, I would do my part
Yet what I can, I give Him
Give my heart
-Christina Rossetti, from "In the Bleak Midwinter"
Glad to see others also are listening to the Holy Spirit and forsaking these pagan christmas traditions. If people can’t let go of their practices that clearly offend our Holy Father, then they might need to check their hearts. God hates idolatry. That’s what celebrating the paganized chrismas traditions are. It’s worshipping Nimrod’s birth, not Jesus.
Every day is a day to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ.
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This isnt Biblical!!! What Jesus did on the cross for us is the whole point of the gospal- this is what the word of God commands us to do - go and tell people about the price Jesus paid for their sins so that they can come to true repentance!!!! It is because people listen and follow other people instead of studying the Bible to make sure you do what God say and no man. You will one day stand before God and not this UA-camr - better do what the Lords wants you to do and hate what He hates! I encourage you to focus and trust 100% in the Lord and what is written in scripture let no man deceive you!
Jesus does not tell you to celebrate his birth. Why would you add to the word of God? He is very strict with worship.
Talk in a way normal humans can relate to you…
If one is celebrating the birth of the Lord everyday, what is the problem in celebrating specially on another day ? If you really celebrate everyday you should be happier to celebrate another day - Christmas - as well. It is satan's strategy to remove the Lord's birth from the history.
Acts 5:29
We OUGHT TO OBEY GOD RATHER THAN men!
The fact that there is any kind of debate about this "worldly" event with all its greedy fleshly excesses, commercialism, and idolatry of paganistic decorations, present giving and a tree as a focus point in peoples homes, not to mention "the all knowing santa" has ZERO to do with honoring our LORD AND SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST WHO CAME TO REDEEM Sinners NOT CREATE A Distracting worldly Holiday!
We follow THE WORD OF GOD NOT "what some people say" or "traditions of men."
IF IT'S IN THE BIBLE, we HONOR it,
IF ITS NOT IN THE BIBLE, we DON'T!
PREACH THE GOSPEL!
AMEN! 🔥📖🔥
That is a great point. Lately I have been thinking deeply about present giving because it’s kind of expected of the occasion. Some people have everything we need and more and we keep giving and receiving. Gift giving is not a bad thing but we should listen to Jesus and give to those who actually need with a generous heart.
Amen, couldn't have said that better.
I did a study of Luke. Jesus was born around sept/oct.
The shepherds were in the field when the birth was announced .
The shepherds were not allowed in the fields in the spring as the crops were growing. Winter was too cold to be out in the fields. Autumn was when the crops were planed. So that leaves their summer after the crops were picked.
Its NOT YOUR STUDY its just now known that Jesus was not born, as per scripture and events around that time in December. The harvest was sept/oct and the Jews knew all about timings.
There is stronger evidence that he might have been born somewhere around late march-early april, to coincide with the passover, which would have coincided with the same time period as his death and resurrection.
There’s good explanations online against the shepherds argument.
i have not studied it in depth, but i heard it was actually in springtime around the time the Passover lambs were born.
He was born on the fourth of July.
I'm serious.
He's American through and through good buddy.
His taxes pay for both these lanes.
Most definitely tied and entangled with to pagan roots. Yule is pagan, the tree symbolizes an idol of worship and “good luck”, festive party’s represent the same pagan origin of “ indulging in immoral behavior a “free for all” drunkenness, gluttony, fornication, etc. the Mistletoe represents the symbol of pagan rooted fornication. Bells and lights were used to ward off evil spirits. Bells used to worship the sun god Baal.
The word “carol” means to “dance in a ring” (Wicca and druidry) aka witchcraft.
The majority of people do NOT even celebrate the birth of Christ (not that Dec is his birthday anyway)…but they’re too busy shopping sales, rushing here and there, taking their kids to the mall to see Satan …I mean Santa!!!!!
Churches these days are just as bad as the pagans were.
Absolutely disgusting. Judgment starts in the house of the Lord!! 1 Peter 4:17
Please don't look up the origins of words you probably use every day. Definitely do not look up the origins of the names of some of the people you care about. You'll lose your mind.
I agree, I see so many pagan decorations in my church, it’s gross. Makes me want to leave 😅
@neveling67 Like crosses, a pagan Roman symbol of execution?
@@neveling67 you absolutely should
@@neveling67 I have no local church, but I do want one and try them out when I have the strength. The last one I tried, a year or so ago in November 2023, had more than 20 Christmas trees lining the walls and wreaths and garlands and twinkling lights blathered all over the stage. I gave it my all, but when the choir's first song was "Frosty the Snow Man" I got up and walked out. Another church I tried, it just so happened to be around Christmas, the pastor invited us to the fellowship meal after the sermon. He came to talk to me and my husband as we were eating and the first thing he said was, "Would you like to have your picture taken with Santa? We have one set up in a chair, with elves, in the other room."
It is a Pagan Holiday. We are to be set apart and follow the narrow path
@@tessagreer9688 But consider how we are to be set apart. The meaning of "Pharisee" is "separated" one. Obviously, we are commanded to be separate, but the way the Pharisees were "separate", did not please Jesus. They took pride in their separation, They were punctilious about things like tithing mint and cumin, but not so much about the weightier matters. So simply being separate does not please God, but it is all about how we make ourselves separate.
Dr McGee used to say that it is not so much about being separated _from_ others, but being _separated unto_ Christ. He pointed out that, at a wedding, the bride and groom are separated unto each other, without the need to be proud or rude to their guests. They can treat their guests very kindly and lovingly, but there is a right separation from them, just the same..The separation is unto each other, and that takes care of their separation from others. It is the right kind of separation, which doesn't require pride or self-righteousness to establish or maintain. They are separated unto love for each other, and that creates all the separation that is required. No born again Christian wants to be like the Pharisees, with the tithing mint and cumin kind of separation, but because Christianity became a world religion, dominated by unbelievers, we can take on the pharisaical attitudes, and sadly think that this conformity to a "taste not, touch not" (the way Paul described it!) way of life is what we need to do to show God we are all in, and on His side. But the weightier matters are left out, and we become proud and ruthless instead of more like Jesus. And any Christian who has been born again through faith in Jesus Christ will be grieved to realize that we have become like Pharisees, expecting God to be pleased by that kind of separation. I don't think any born again Christian is thinking in their right mind, to think that proudly proclaiming their separation from Christmas is better than using hymns and Christmas carols to testify to Jesus. What if someone uses Christmas carols, and the reading of Luke 1, and sacrificial giving to help people in need, to glorify God, but they don't take part in the selfishness and other true corruptions of Christmas? That creates a separation that isn't anything like the separation of the Pharisees! And it is a separation that glorifies God! It isn't drinking of the worldly stuff, but it isn't drinking the Pharisee Kool-Aid either.
When I was young, I went through a stage in which I believed that Christmas is pagan, and knuckled under to the church Pharisee-ism that had really broken my heart, and was a harsh burden to my faith, not a help. I still wasn't completely restored when I renounced it, but it was definitely heading back to a strong, trusting faith in Jesus, away from the destructive Pharisee things. And it did break my heart that I had to a great degree accepted those Pharisee attitudes as necessary, but I was grateful that God had shown me that this was not what He required, but there is good food for our souls, and the water of life, and all the metaphors God uses to show us what He is like, and what He has for us.
I disprove this historically in the video.
@@lionoffireraw ...but not Biblically. which is the MOST important!
Evergreen trees have been a focus of pagan worship for thousands of years:
Deu 12:2 "You shall completely destroy all the places in which the nations which you shall possess served their gods, on the high mountains and on the hills and UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE."
1K 14:23 "For they also built high places for themselves, and images, and Asherahs, on every high hill and UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE."
Isa 57:5 "...being inflamed with idols UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE, killing the little sons in the valleys under the clefts of the rocks?"
Jer 2:20 "For long ago you broke your yoke and tore up your bonds; and you said, I will not transgress, when on every high hill and UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE you lay down like a harlot."
Jer 3:6 "Yahweh also said to me in the days of Josiah the king, Have you seen that which backsliding Israel has done? She has gone up on every high mountain and UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE, and has fornicated there."
Eze 6:13 "Then you shall know that I am Yahweh, when their dead shall be among their idols all around their altars, on every high hill, in all the tops of the mountains, and UNDER EVERY GREEN TREE, and under every leafy oak, the place where they offered sweet aroma to all their idols."
*Note: These are only a sample of the Texts that define this pagan practice.
On top of that, look at king Jeroboam who went down in history as the king "who made Israel sin." (recorded 14 times in Scripture!)
"And Jeroboam ordered a feast in the eighth month, on the fifteenth day of the month, like the feast that is in Judah. And he offered on the altar. So he did in Bethel, sacrificing to the calves that he had made. And he placed in Bethel the priests of the high places which he had made. And he offered on the altar which he had made in Bethel the fifteenth day of the eighth month, in the month which he had DEVISED IN HIS OWN HEART. And he ordered a feast for the sons of Israel. And he offered on the altar, and burned incense." (1Ki 12:32-33)
ADDING to Yahweh's Festivals is a "SIN" and every element in Christ-mass is borrowed from paganism even if you can't see it, except for the "birth of Christ" which was simply tacked on to appease the blind Christians.
This is why people reject Christianity over foolish issues like this. Sad
Jesus said, "Do this in remembrance of Me" and it had nothing to do with His birthday. He also gave instructions about baptism, but nothing about His birthday. While it was vital that Jesus be born of a virgin and it is wonderful to read about, there is nothing in Scripture about celebrating Christ's birthday. It is all about His death, burial, and resurrection. The Christ-Mass that people celebrate today certainly does have pagan elements attached to it, but what should be enough for anyone to have nothing to do with it is that it has no beginning in Scripture or the Church, it is a RC invention.
It’s not a Roman catholic invention, because it actually began (3rd century) before the Roman Catholic Church began to exist (4th century)
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His silence on the matter means it's our decision.
@@lemongate4869 That is absolute nonsense.
@@lionoffirerawNo it didn't. It started with Constantine.
@@lionoffireraw Earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints, not worldly, pagan, pseudo-Christian traditions created by men. In Christian love, Leigh
As believers, I don't think it is worth getting bogged down on these issues. It distracts from the larger point of salvation, something the enemy loves to get us doing. Christmas, whether it is at the accurate time of year or not, can be a unique time to center our reflections on His birth and what this means for mankind, as well as a prime opportunity to share this truth with others that might not be as open as in other seasons.
When the corrupted information online seems too conflicting and overwhelming to comb through, we can lean on our discernment. What does the holiday promote? Greed, covetousness, idolatry, drunkenness, fornication, gluttony, etc. How is it that those with the spirit of antichrist can celebrate it with such zeal? The spirit world wouldn't allow such a conflict. The Santa anagram, Google "old nick", you know, jolly ol' st. Nick and look into all the other icons of the holiday -- Christmas is as pagan as it gets. It's not easy to let go of because of tradition, I went through this, it's hard and especially for churches for financial reasons but if you pursue this question with an open mind, lead by the Holy Spirit, you will find that this holiday is not from God. Besides, Jesus wasn't born on December 25th, every data point in the Bible points to Sukkot - the feast of tabernacles (when God came to dwell with man).
Exactly his birth would have been according to the Hebrew calendar, not ours. And Sukkot is celebrated around September/ October.
It’s okay for Christians to not celebrate Christmas 😊
The point of this video was to historically prove that Christmas does not have pagan origins.
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Have a think about who is really against the worship of Jesus, the celebration of his birth. I'll give you a clue: he's called the "Father of Lies".
@@lemongate4869 @lemongate4869 ah yes, he who deceiveth the whole world. Fun fact: did you know the world spent around a trillion USD on Christmas last year? We could probably solve world hunger and homelessness for an entire generation if we skipped one Christmas and instead went camping for a night during Sukkot.
I'm leaning more towards not celebrating Christmas anymore. In the Old Testament when the Isrealites chose for themselves how to celebrate and worship god, his anger burned against them and many died that day(Golden Calf). Christmas is a tradition created by man. They're choosing how they want to Celebrate god. It looks like History repeating itself. If that isn't a fair assessment let me know. I'm stilling studying the word and learning the way.
Amen brother, not just the Golden Calf, when you read Isaiah 1 God condemns them for their Sabbaths (HolyDays) and appointed feasts. Lamenting that “even the solemn meeting” is “iniquity”. When we consider how God came to us Gentiles in our pagan Roman occupation (like Israel in Egypt) and chose us to bear the faith. How, like Israel, we quickly turned to idols and sin. I think it’s fair to say these “HolyDays” (Sabbaths) Rome has created fit the same chastisement Isaiah 1 delivers.
God bless ✝️🐑🩸
Romans 14 issue 😊
That's accurate my brother. If you didn't read anything about it before, I encourage you to search and read "The regulative principle of worship" doctrine. Jeremiah Burroughs and Samuel Waldrom have some works about it. That doctrine helped me to understand how God is the only one who can dictate in which way we must worship him. We don't have that prerogative.
@@lionoffireraw To apply Romans 14:5 to christmas is eisegesis, and out of context. Romans 14:1 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to dispute over doubtful things. . . 5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.
A good summary of the chapter is: Put a higher value on keeping unity in the community of believers than on your personal opinion when it comes to eating meat versus vegetarianism, fasting or not fasting on a given day or about diet in general, “for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit” (verse 17).
If we were supposed to commemorate Jesus’ birth, wouldn't the Bible be more clear about when He was born and how we should go about doing so, like it is with His death and resurrection? We know from the Gospels, Lev. 23, and Ex. 12, that Christ was crucified on Nisan 14. And, He instructs His disciples in what they are to do in remembrance of Him. Jesus Christ is Jewish and God's appointed holy days are according to the Hebrew calendar not the Roman. I personally lean towards Jesus being born in the spring. We know that the Old Testament points to Christ, and Ex. 40:2 tells us that Moses was to set up the tabernacle on the first day of the first month - Nisan 1. With Christ being the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, one could deduce that Jesus was born on Nisan 1. Much like the ark resting on the mountains of Ararat on the 17th day of the first month in Gen. 8:4 pointing to Nisan 17 being the feast of First Fruits, when Christ rose from the grave. Keeping in mind of course, the calendar change of Ex. 12 and the complexity of the Hebrew calendar.
Celebrating Christ's birth on the 25th of dec. is akin to the Areopagus altar to the unknown god (Acts 17). Many pagan gods are said to have a dec. 25th birthday; such as mithra, dionysus, thammuz, hermes, and adonis. Adding Christ to this list is so very disrespectful to Him, it’s disgraceful. Incorporating trees, wreaths, and the like, along with the activities associated with saturnalia and yule into the birthday festivities is akin to Saul not completely destroying the Amalekites and all that they had, and instead taking of theirs what he perceived to be good and offering it to GOD (1st Samuel 15). Celebrating Christ's birth on any particular day of the year is akin to Nadab and Abihu offering to the LORD that which He had not commanded, a fire that was not authorized (Leviticus 10). None of these things glorify God, they are in rebellion to His instruction. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Luke 22:17-20 states what we are to do in remembrance of Him, we have not been authorized to add anything to this.
The Israelites were repeatedly told to tear down and destroy all pagan altars and everything associated with their practices. I have not read anything in the New Testament that refutes Deuteronomy 12:29-31, in fact I would say that 1st Corinthians 10 confirms it. This command, like all of His commands, was given to us out of love. He knows what’s going on in the spiritual realm better than you or I do, and His instruction is for our protection, we would be wise to take heed.
To conclude: 1. an idol is nothing, what is being offered to the idol is actually being offered to demons, 2. the things offered to demons are not to be feared, the demons are not to be honored or even given the appearance of acceptance, 3. nothing in itself is a sin, it is a sin when it is done against the will of God, 4. no one can serve two masters, you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons, 5. “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind." Dec. 25th is not Christ's birthday, it’s a designated idol worshiping day. Dec. 17- jan. 6 is a pagan palooza. Participating in the pagan customs of saturnalia and yule is paying homage to demons. Choosing to partake in these festivities is demonstrating love of worldly traditions over love of GOD’s instruction. It matters not that it is said to be in honor of Christ, that is merely lip service. The Holy Father loves His children, He is jealous for them, wanting them all to Himself. The hearts of His children shall not be divided, He will not share them with another. Let not the enemy deceive you.
The spirit behind this holiday can be described in three words; deception, consumption, destruction. It is darkness disguised as light. Think about it, neither the humble nature of our Savior nor our faithfulness to Him are being represented in all this flagrant pageantry, but what is? This behavior more resembles that which was displayed at the pagan temples, just not to the full extent of lewdness. Remember the lesson Christ taught through His sermon on the mount - if you lust, you have committed adultery in your heart, likewise if you hate you have committed murder. Just because you're not bowing down before an image or dancing around naked or engaging in fornication doesn't make you innocent of idolatry, it's a heart issue. “Christmas” is quite possibly the craftiest scheme of the enemy of GOD, leading people into disobedience to GOD while they think they are honoring the Lord and Savior. Woe to those who call evil good, for they know not to repent.
The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. -Acts 17:30
“Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues." -Revelation 18:4
The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever; The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold; Sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. Moreover by them Your servant is warned, and in keeping them there is great reward. Who can understand his errors? Cleanse me from secret faults. Keep back Your servant also from presumptuous sins; Let them not have dominion over me. Then I shall be blameless, and I shall be innocent of great transgression. -Psalms 19:9-13 Now to Him who is able to protect you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory, blameless with great joy, to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority before all time and now and forever. Amen.
@lgok Thanks!! I'll definitely have a look and see what I learn.
I was not raised in a Christian home and had such a fear of Santa! My parents would use him in the winter months as a threat for good behavior. As though he was all seeing with his naughty and nice list and the coal was the judgement. Was such a blessing when I learned about Jesus, His sacrifice for our sin and the Lamb's book of life!
How pathetic!
Amen!
I think if angels came down from heaven at Jesus birth to announce it and sing about it I see no wrong in celebrating it
We should be celebrating it EVERYDAY, not on a day that man picked so he can get gifts?
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So birthdays must be miserable too at your house.
@dealikeinidea2342 I LOVE this. And yes, it's amazing what we regurgitate the things we've been told. Thanks for your input, I'm being beaten to the pulp on here🤣 And to be clear, if people want to celebrate it, so be it. BUT, to have Matt claim with 100% certainty that there's no pagan roots to this holiday? That's just wrong.
Research shows Jesus was born about September 6 months set apart from the Passover where he died.
The shepherds were out late in the evening. That indicates seasonable weather, it's still summer in September in Israel.
When you say December 25th you're referring to the Gregorian calendar formed in 1582. The calendar was much different from the situation where Christ was born.
There are good answers to that shepherd segment!
And John the Baptist was born in the Spring, around six months before Christ. Read where Mary goes to visit his mom.
Isn't decorating and putting presents under an evergreen tree idolizing a created object?
No.
Obviously Yes 🤷!
No!
By your logic, looking in a mirror is idolising a created object.
@@BrianDalen look at the face's of children when they see a Christmas tree 🎄=🤑!
"they deck it with silver and with gold" sounds very much to me like decorating a tree.
(Jeremiah)
Read the entire passage instead of taking a verse out of context.
Jeremiah is clearly talking about idols. I’m not sure if you know the context of the passage?
@lemongate4869 I have, and I can't see it any other way.
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That's because the enemy has blinded you to the truth of God's word.
@@GodTurnItAround Ask questions like: were there Christmas trees at the time? And does this apply to other things made from trees like furniture?
I would also recommend Mike Winger's take on Jeremiah 🤔.
I feel Christians praise God more in a two hour church service each week and celebrate his life more then any Christmas day with friends and family. There is an illusion they are celebrating Christs life but are they really?
And why do Christians don't vele date passover of the Sabbath? That is not only a feast day of the Jews.
It is besides the point. The reason why they cannot keep Christ in Christmas it is because Christmas was not intended for Christ. Look to the Word of GOD. Look at Succot/The Feast off Tabernacles.
God has told us in His word how to worship Him and how not to. Just because the Bile is silent about something doesn’t mean we can just “do our own thing”.
We may say there can’t be anything wrong with it - but 2 priests were killed on the spot in the Old Testament for using something God did not prescribe in the worship of Him.
We say we like Christmas - has anyone ever enquired of God if He likes it?
Absolutely 100% pagan in origin. No questions asked on this one! That being said Paul discusses this about considering a day. If a Christian is convicted about Christmas being pagan and participates its a sin. For another if they aren’t then it may not be.
However…..Jesus wasn’t born on December 25th and nowhere in scripture that I am aware of are birthdays celebrated.
Last comment, try telling your wife that you want to celebrate her birthday on one of your old girlfriend’s birthdays instead of hers and see what happens!
Christians celebrated a pagan deity's birthday before they switched to celebrating the birth of Christ on the same day?
Stupid example.
No where in scripture it has birthday dates earliest Christians all agreed on December 25.
@@vampyresgraveyard3307 I would recommend an indepth study on Luke chapter 1. I think you will discover something very different about when Jesus was born!
If you're not celebrating a pagan god, you're not practicing paganism.
My wife and I chose to not teach our kids anything about Santa other than that he wasn't real. However, we did tell them to be respectful to other kids.
Jeremiah 10:1-5
Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2. Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
That verse has always blown my mind.
That verse is covered in the video.
It’s leaking about idols carved from trees, and then decorated.
Nothing to do with “Christmas trees”
@@lionoffireraw brother, we chop trees, and put ornaments on them and give each other gifts. It’s a vain holiday no matter how pure the families that practice it are. Praise God!
@@DanielBergerHewitt AMEN. I honestly believe that some of these Bible quoters or even truthers don't want to give up "their" holiday. Dec 25 (starting in August in some places) has nothing to do with the birth of Jesus.
@@lionoffireraw I like Christmas. It reminds me of the innocence of youth. I think if we lose Christmas, we kind of forget about what we used to be. We used to be much closer to God's image when we were small. Imagine if everyone became joyful like that again. Someone recently told me they stopped celebrating Christmas and stopped playing Santa, and I was dismayed. I've always viewed Santa as an archetypal form of God the Father.
We are not to conform to the patterns and traditions of the world, we are told to come out from among those idolatrous practices! We are to do Gods Will and preach the Gospel, we're not here to have fun. We are told to pick up our cross and follow Jesus!!
It’s not a sin to celebrate Christmas, and it’s not a sin to not celebrate Christmas.
If we need to remove ourselves from the world, then no one should be on the Internet right now.
There’s nothing idolatrous about pointing people to Jesus Christ on Christmas Day.
Amen. Christmas causes greed, gluttony and vanity! Look around people running back and forth and for what? Just to spend your hard earned cash on material things. You don’t need them, feed the poor look after the widow.
@thewayoftruth-candyjoylynn7163 very well said. THIS is the real reason not to celebrate the worldly holydays like Easter (ishtar) and Christmas.
@@lionoffireraw But are you celebrating Jesus as a child every year, too?
I don't celebrate Christmas on the 25th of December because Jesus wasn't born on that day of the month.
Well, we don’t know 100%.
But it’s okay not to celebrate Christmas!
@@lionoffirerawComing from a strictly astronomical point of view, the Bethlehem star, which was actually the planet Jupiter, stopped its third and final retrograde over the town of Bethlehem on December 25th. It follows that around that same time the Magi bestowed their gifts on the toddler Jesus.
In the book of Revelation it talks about the Virgin rising with the moon at her feet, Virgo is The star sign towards the end of August and beginning of September. This means that Jesus was either conceived or born at around that time. Brilliantly enough, the way the Magi knew that the arrival of Jesus was being announced was because Jupiter, the king planet, was in retrograde motion at the right paw of Leo, the lion over the king star Regulus. King, King, King.
That super bright star? That was Jupiter and Venus coming so close in conjunction. It looked like it was one star.
It's actually quite brilliant how the star s told the story of the arrival of the Messiah. As was foretold in Psalms and other parts of the Old Testament.
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Close but no.
@David_ZARJesus said, "Do this in remembrance of Me" and it had nothing to do with His birthday. He also gave instructions about baptism, but nothing about His birthday. While it was vital that Jesus be born of a virgin and it is wonderful to read about, there is nothing in Scripture about celebrating Christ's birthday. It is all about His death, burial, and resurrection. The Christ-Mass that people celebrate today certainly does have pagan elements attached to it, but what should be enough for anyone to have nothing to do with it is that it has no beginning in Scripture or the Church, it is a RC invention.
@@lionoffirerawas you can see, you made a mistake with this video
There is nothing biblical about Christmas, it is not a sin for anyone to celebrate the birth of our Lord, but we are justified by his resurrection not his birth, there is no one that can nail down the date of his birth. The Roman church that began the celebration of his birth has called it a pagan holiday themselves, God gave the Israelites holy days as a shadow of things to come, they were not holidays. The scripture tells us it is the death, burial, and resurrection that is important, it is pagan in the lies that are associated in the holiday made by man that are so evil, the world celebrates Christmas, we are not of the world.
"It is not a sin for anyone to celebrate the birth of our Lord..."
Do you not read in the Scriptures that ADDING to the Festivals of Yahweh is indeed a "SIN?"
Look at king Jeroboam who went down in history as the king "who made Israel SIN." (recorded 14 times in Scripture!)
"And Jeroboam ordered a feast in the eighth month, on the fifteenth day of the month, like the feast that is in Judah. And he offered on the altar. So he did in Bethel, sacrificing to the calves that he had made. And he placed in Bethel the priests of the high places which he had made. And he offered on the altar which he had made in Bethel the fifteenth day of the eighth month, in the month which he had DEVISED IN HIS OWN HEART. And he ordered a feast for the sons of Israel. And he offered on the altar, and burned incense." (1Ki 12:32-33)
He ADDED a Festival (Yahweh's Festivals are listed in Lev 23) that he "devised in his own heart" and this is exactly what Roman Christianity has done, followed by all those who walk in her footsteps!
@@2besavedcom-7 So, are you the head of the Sanhedrin?
@@EugeneHolley-rc6ry - What? No Scriptures to fortify your pagan tradition?
@@2besavedcom-7 You can't read?
There is a record of the celebration of the birth of Jesus in the Bible. It's the event of birth of Jesus lol.
Why is it so important celebrate Christmas yet ignore Yahweh's commandment to keep His seven annual Holy days?
Because that’s Old Covenant law.
@@lionoffirerawNo the fourth commandment is REMEMBER the sabbath day & to keep it holy the 7 th day sabbath was put in place at creation it wasn't just for the Jews the Jews didn't even exist then it's for all of mankind it's the only commandment God sanctified & made holy, the roman Catholic Church under emperor Constantine changed the true sabbath to sun day their pagan day of the sun.
@@julienolan5022 the sabbath is weekly, not the yearly feast which Jesus is fulfilling. the fall feasts will be fulfilled when he returns.
@@lionoffirerawyes it is but Jesus said at passover “do this in rememberance of me “ that what his words were to his disciples!! Break bread. And to do it as often as you can. He didn’t say celebrate my birthday. It’s good to celebrate yahushua everyday by giving thanks. Not cause arguments on the internet. A lot of people who can’t afford anything out there, so instead of the greed the world has to offer, make someone’s day and give Jesus wherever you can, you don’t need worthless material goods. Thank him for your daily bread. Amen. ❤🙏🕊
@@lionoffireraw Covenant Law is not the same as GOD'S Commandments, Sabbath day and HIS Feast Days which we are to keep whether we be Jew or Grafted in believers. Jesus fulfilled the Covenant Laws.
You make some good points and I agree that Christians should not be hostile or contentious with each other over this. The thing is, the origins of celebrating a pagan festival on December 25th pre-dates the Roman Empire and Saturnalia. Saturnalia, Sol Invictus, etc, are just later versions of the original mystery religion that believed that December 25th was the birthdate of Tammuz (the supposed “virgin birth” of the son of Semiramis and Nimrod) going all the way back to the rebellion against God at the Tower of Babel. Also, I think that most bible scholars have determined that Jesus was definitely not born during winter months. Some believe, myself included, that He was born in the fall; in September during the Feast of Tabernacles
You’d have to provide historical evidence of that claim.
So you at least admit that the origins of Christmas are not tied to Saturnalia and Sol Invictus?
@ 1. Agreed. Do you mean evidence of the “Nimrod/Semiramis/Tammuz” origins of celebrating on December 25, or Jesus being born (most likely) in the fall ?
2. Yes, I do admit that the origins of Christmas are not directly tied to Saturnalia and/or Sol Invictus. However, I do think that these celebrations (especially Saturnalia) have had some influence on how Christmas has been celebrated over the centuries.
I saw a documentary years ago where they used a computer program to calculate it, and they said it was Sept 11.
@ I think it was September 11 also.
@@marthagarcia5420Rightttttttttt
Far more probable that Jesus was born during Sukkot. Also separate point from Christmas...but why dont we as Christians just simply celebrate/recognize the 7 Biblical feasts/holy days? They are Biblical and also prophecy of things to come. Tomorrow's World has great education on the 7 Biblical feasts, beginning with Passover and ending with The Last Great Day
Old covenant
@lionoffireraw God's annual festivals have meaning in both the Old testament and new testament, and also prophesy of things yet to happen. For example Passover in the old testament is the scene of God passing over the Israelite homes, and the new testament Jesus sheds his blood and is the ultimate Passover lamb. Another example that includes an old testament scene but foreshadows things to come is the feast trumpets. In the old testament it is called rosh hashana and is a time of rejoicing by the blowing of trumpets. This foreshadows a time of war and plagues concluding with Jesus' 2nd coming. Just like the day of atonement foreshadow the binding of satan at the beginning of Jesus' millennial reign, and the feast of tabernacles pictures the actual millennium. All culminating into the Last Great Day, also called Judgement Day. Not to be dismissed as things only relevant in the past old testament, as many of the prophesied events haven't happened yet. In fact, to be unfamiliar with God's 7 annual feasts is to be unaware of things yet to even happen.
I've came to the understanding not to get caught up in traditions for me I do not celebrate the birth of my own birthday or any other because of the fact the man whom baptised yeshua had his head removed as a birthday gift so as a mark of respect I will not celebrate this tradition of birthday's
Amen!
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth." (John 4:23-24 ESV)
See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. (Colossians 2:8 ESV)
Well said. A very good thought.....thank you!
Finally, some good arguments against the "pagan" origin of Christmas celebration. Bravo! 👏👏👏
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The arguments against observing Christmas are old ones and IMO they don't hold water. I don't care if Jesus was born mid winter in the southern hemisphere making it June or July. And I don't care if Constantine overlayed this holiday on the pagan mid winter celebration of Saturnalia. I don't care and billions of Christians across the centuries havn't cared either.
What's important is that we celebrate the arrival, the birth of a forpromised Messiah. God kept his promise to the Jews AND gentile. Unfortunately the Jews are now in deep enmity with God for rejecting Him. They have been for 2000 years. And they will remain in deep rebellion against God until they accept HIM. They once were God's chosen......once. Not now. The body of believers worldwide are now the true Israel. And we express that true belief openly when we observe the high holy holiday of Christmas. WHEN exactly Jesus was born is far less important that the fact that HE WAS. THE PROMISE WAS KEPT!!!
As with others, I don’t agree with you either. Jesus was definitely not born in December. December is a winter month in the northern hemisphere. Jesus must have been born in spring or summer.
As I said in the video, the exact birth date is neither here nor there. We can celebrate it any and every day of the year, including 25 Dec.
Romans 14
It is now generally accepted as September 11 😐.
It is pagan. It's not his birthday, he wasn't born on the 25th. At least find out the day and celebrate it. Oh read the bible about cutting down trees decorating them. Now who did that?. Yes the pagans.
Yes, do read these verses about cutting down trees and.... "carving it into a man and overlaying it with gold and silver... and praying to it, asking for rain or for the idol to bless them with children."
Then google " Baal idols" and you will see what they looked like. They look absolutely nothing like a Christmas tree.
@KC-pw4nn Yes I will go to google and seek wisdom.
Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. Jer10:4,Jer 10:2 Deu_12:30-3, Lev_18:30 Happy Bible reading, Blessings
I addressed that in the video.
The idols people worship today are not cut down trees. Idols today are money ,cars ,possessions . These same people for one day a year who turn puritan ,will gossip and ignore the needy . Their are some of the meanest people around.
The requirements for Christian’s today .Gal 6-22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Merry Christmas my brothers and sisters in Christ.
Repent
@WIDEawake419 - this is the wrong video for you.
@@ernies8828 wrong. Could not be a better one for me. You see I’m one of the few warriors that will take proper stand for Christ in this “anything goes” generation
@@WIDEawake419 -says every person who thinks that the wind blows where it may :)
@@ernies8828 CONGRATS!! Winner of the Internet Dumb Comment of the Day
Holy Spirit lives in you. Why not ask him should you celebrate 25th. Know truth do truth.
I disagree with you. 1. The bible do not state when Christ was born. As believers we should follow the instructions of the Holy Scripture of the appointed times of reverence/rememberance by YAHUAH ELOHIYM (THE LORD GOD) which are The Sabbath, Passover, The Feast of Unleavened Bread. Shavuot or The Feast of Weeks, The Feast of Trumpets, Yom Kippur, The Day of Atonement,and the Sukkot or The Feast of Tabernacles. Following verses:Lev 23:3, Lev 23:4-5, Lev 23:6-8, Lev 23:9-11, Lev 23:23-25, Lev 23:26-32 & Lev 16:29-31, Lev 23:33-43.
It is really not important if we celebrate on the exact day of his birth. We have public holidays for a king/queen's birthday even though it's not their day of birth. It's a date of convenience so everyone can celebrate on the same day together. It really does not matter when Jesus was born, it matters that He WAS born.
Amen!!!
His birth is not important. No where in scripture does it say to remember his birth. Scripture tells us to keep the Passover and remember his death...the reason we have a chance at salvation and we can come to him and repent daily for our sins. He doesn't honor you honoring his birth because he didn't command you to or ask you to, that's why his birth isn't even recorded in scripture.
@@nicholehargeI completely agree. No one needs to celebrate. Our Lord is good and has saved us all through His Grace Amen! I was more meaning that it's a bit silly to debate over the date, it's just a way to keep people from the truth. Whether a person celebrates or not is up to them and between them and God. God bless you.
Not celebrating the birth of Christ on Earth (the 2nd most important day in the history of humanity after the Resurrection) while celebrating other days, less important, is absolutely DISGRACEFUL and unconscionable for a Christian. It's the same thing as saying that you don't care about it. Scripture tells us that an army of angels appeared to shepherds that night on the sky, celebrating "I BRING YOU GOOD NEWS that will cause GREAT JOY for all the people". Just like angels said, the birth of Christ should be remembered as a day of great joy. That's what Christmas does, it brings joy. We give and receive gifts as commemoration of Jesus being born in flesh to save us. The idea of not celebrating the birth of Christ, so people would not honor Christ, is inspired by Satan. People come with so many arguments and excuses but the bottom line is, they don't wanna celebrate Christ' birth.
Amen!! I absolutely agree with you except the birth of Christ is the most important event, it's number one, even above the resurrection.
Look at how heaven viewed these two magnificent events.
The massive, joyous, fanfare of his birth, with thousands of angels and the low key, quietness of his resurrection, with only two angels in attendance.
His resurrection was a miracle, his victory over death but his birth was an even greater miracle : God came to earth as one of us.. Just as he said he would.. That truly is the greatest event in the history of the world and worth celebrating.
Jezus was never born at 25 december. Yahushua was born at a spring month. Their is no prove that the messiah was born at 25 december check your facts.
@@huffepuf3066 It doesn't matter if it's the real date of His birthday or not. The Chυrch established that day to be the day we celebrate it, period.
@@criss6945 So if they church do it people must follow it? No matter if the church have good or bad attentions? If the church make a very dark pagan feast day a Christian feast day, it doesn't make the day a holy day. It's still the same day in the ancient times. And why is Xmas not mention as a holy day?
@@huffepuf3066 The church didn't make a pagan feast a Christian feast day. But REPLACED a pagan celebration with one of Christ. Meaning they cancelled a pagan celebration and put a Christian one instead. What's so hard to understand? The Fathers of the Church wouldn't have taken such decision without praying about it. I fully trust them for they were holy men inspired by the Holy Spirit. The Church is the body of Christ and has fully authority from God. As for Xmas, are u serious?
Why didn’t King Jesus make a big deal about His own birthday? No mention of any celebration for His miracle Birth. Too much focus on the insignificance of the Day
It’s not a sin to celebrate it. It’s not a sin to not celebrate it. As long as we do it in a way that honours God 😊
Nothing insignificant about that day.
Wow. Is that really what you think of the birth of Christ, when God became man? Insignificant?
When Christ was born, the devil tried to stop it, a vast multitude of angels announced it, the shepherds and the Wise men worshiped. It was a huge, huge event.
Compare that to his resurrection, which was extremely low key in comparison. Only two angels sat quietly in his tomb.
There is a reason why his birth was not in secret and greatly celebrated and Christians continue to celebrate his birth today to prove to the world that Jesus really did come to Earth. He is not a myth.
My wife is setting up her little Xmas things right now; funny this vid popped up in my feed at the perfect time.
I see the joy it brings her & it makes me happy seeing her so joyful.
Thank you for the facts in your vid.
It helps me with my neutrality.
I don’t celebrate anything but Christ’s memorial and my anniversary; along with daily life and being grateful for the blessed existence I have been granted.
Everyone is doing their best to serve our Lord, Christ Jesus.
Since He can see their hearts, I trust He will continue protecting all who call on His name - Romans 10:13 ::::
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“For everyone who will call the name of THE LORD JEHOVAH shall be saved.”
- Aramaic Bible in Plain English
All other translations say “the Lord”, except for the “corrupted” NWT.
2 Peter 3:9… I pray for all to make it.
God bless you. Can understand the position of neutrality as it has been one that I have adhered to for so many years. Likewise I understand the joy you feel when your wife is also joyful. Perhaps if the celebration of Christmas is actually not disapprove by our creator your neutrality can thus be persuaded to lean towards the direction of your wife's way of celebration.
Question: Don't know if you would happen to remember a scripture/passage that has to do with the greater importance of the death of an individual (ie: a life well lived) versus celebration or remembrance of a birth (ie: one that is just beginning and therefore not a day of significance because nothing has thus far been accomplished). Don't know if this sounds familiar but thought I would ask just the same. Thank you for sharing your comment. 🙏
@@nwicconsultants6640 Thank you for your comment 🙂 & yes, Ecclesiastes 7:1. One of my favs as well.
is it written in the bible to celebrate Jesus birthday ? God hates pride?
No, and fun fact is that their is no prove in which date the Messiah was born.
Is it written in the Bible that we can use the internet?
Romans 14 issue 😊
@@lionoffireraw why?
Matthew 7:21-23 (WMB)
²¹ “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. ²² Many will tell me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?’ ²³ Then I will tell them, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.’
25 december was the birthday/celebration of the sun god. It is pagen.
The birth of our Lord Jesus Christ was during Soekot . In oktober.
See the historical proof in the video
@@jolandascholten5057 People would only have a point if the December 25th Roman "birthday of the invincible Sun" was instituted before the birth of Christ - instead of AD 274 !
So who is copying who ?
@@jolandascholten5057 Christ was born in 4 B.C. before going down into Egypt.
Herod died soon after the 29th December 1 B.C. Judean lunar eclipse.
Christ was then “called out of Egypt” in 1 A.D. when He was FOUR years old - on the 29th Jubilee from the first Exodus Jubilee of 1450 B.C. ( "three days travel into the wilderness to sacrifice", then the FOURTH day baptism through the "tongue of the Egyptian sea" that swallowed up Pharaoh and his army ! Three days in the belly of the earth, then the FOURTH day resurrection ! Three days creation, then "light upon the earth" on the FOURTH day of Genesis ! )
The northern winter solstice is either on the 21st or 22nd December, but Christmas Day is three days later !
On the Dead Sea Scroll's Biblical calendar, the Day of Atonement on our 28th September, is the most solemn, most holy day of the Biblical calendar - undoubtedly the day on which Jesus Christ, Yahshua our Messiah, was born !
Despite His birth, Joseph and Mary would have kept the Day of Atonement accordingly, and may even have wondered about the importance of the circumstances. Little did they all suspect then as they looked down on the manger, that that Child of God - the picture of innocence, pure as the driven snow, white as wool - would thirty three years later afflict their souls with His brutal, bloody Passover crucifixion:
Born to die for our crimson sins !
Is that why this is such a Solemn Day ?
We can eat but we cannot cook/work on the weekly Sabbath.
Why is the Day of Atonement a High Day Sabbath but is also without any cooking like the weekly Sabbath ?
It is because we have to fast on this day and so afflict our souls (see Leviticus 23:23-32).
Why ?
The second half of the year almost mirrors the first half of the year.
It is interesting to note that the 28th September Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh Biblical month before the Feast of Tabernacles, corresponds to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the 30th March and the tenth day of the first Biblical month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
That is why we must afflict our souls by fasting on the Day of Atonement:
It is now actually in recognition of the atoning sacrifice that Christ determined to give us, when “six days before the Passover” He arrived in Bethany on the 9th Abib (see John 12:1-15). There “where Lazarus was” Christ had supper after sunset starting the 10th Abib.
On a lowly donkey the next day, still the 10th Abib, thousands with palm fronds hailed Christ as “Hosanna” of Israel [Greek hoshia-na, of Hebrew nâ‛ yâsha‛, naw yaw-shah′ = Oh save ( savior )].
“Yahshua” finally entered Jerusalem, walked into the Temple and looked all around, before leaving at sunset (“eventide/even” between two successive days).
i.e. Hailed by thousands at Jerusalem, the Passover Sacrificial Lamb had gladly separated and presented Himself in the Temple:
on the 10th day of Abib ! (see Mark 11:1-11, Exodus 12:3-11)
Christ’s body was hurriedly laid in the tomb at eventide/even/sunset - FOUR days later !
It is also interesting to note that the 50 year Jubilee is announced on the Day of Atonement on the tenth day of the seventh month before the Feast of Tabernacles (see Leviticus 25:9), corresponding to the same day that the Passover lamb is separated on the tenth day of the first month before the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
Abstaining from work and food on the Day of Atonement is the least we can do in appreciation of Christ's atoning sacrifice for us !
Every little pang of hunger should remind us of the horrendous ordeal Christ went through for us.
In fact if we don't show this appreciation for Christ's sacrifice, His Father says:
“For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.” (Leviticus 23:29-30)
This connection between the Day of Atonement and the Passover was recognised at the time of Christ. They had a “custom” of releasing a prisoner at the Passover, in parallel with the instructions of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus sixteen: to choose two goats for an atoning sin offering.
One was sacrificed and the other was chased into the wilderness:
Pilate saith unto him,
What is truth?
And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them,
I find in him no fault at all.
( Pilate spoke the truth ! )
But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover:
will ye therefore that I release unto you
the King of the Jews?
(John 18: 37-39)
Only by taking all the relevant Biblical quotes, into one compatible rationalisation, can we get to the truth !
Work Christ's 265 day gestation BACKWARDS on this DSS's calendar from the Day of Atonement birth on the 28th September, and you get to the 6th January Epiphany CONCEPTION; and 12 days further back you get to December 25th !
Working another 12 days FORWARDS from the Day of Atonement birth, you get to the Feast of Tabernacle's LAST GREAT DAY !
Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on the Day of Atonement, and then 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations !
Are these the "Twelve Days of Christmas"🎶 around Christ in the womb ?
25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia.
2+6+5=13
John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who also prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected.
i.e the 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany on the 6th of January - then born on the Day of Atonement on the 28th September !
12 disciples + Christ = 13
Don't let pagans steal and demonise our Christmas Biblical "day of gladness" without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey.....
I celebrate Jesus' BIRTH, LIFE, SUFFERING, DEATH, RESURRECTION, ASCENCION and OUTPOURING of the HOLY SPIRIT every day! It is time we start to celebrate more broader and less compartmentalized.
As a born again Christian this year I've got to say im really looking forward to Christmas. For me its now a special time to celebrate the birth of our Lord. And im teaching my young ones to remember its about Jesus. Christmas for me in the past was a time to be off work and have a drink and party. But now i feel its a special time to help others be with family and friends and to celebrate the birth of our saviour. Yes i see the materialism and the people out celebrating it that doesn't have Jesus in there hearts and minds... But hey.. maybe this Christmas and the New year there will be a few more lost lambs found, and say, i was once blind but now i see.. God bless 🙏 and Merry Christmas.
I once read that Hannakha, the festival of lights) was created because the temple was cleansed on Dec 25.
If this is correct, then it's only fitting to celebrate The Light of the World during the festival of lights
Christmas is not for believers. Jesus does not want us to remain trapped by this world and its desires.
We do not need to study the origins of Christmas celebrations, but simply observe the mixture of good and evil that Christmas celebrations are to understand that this is the opposite of what Jesus teaches us about being his disciple.
Romans 14 issue.
@lionoffireraw Christmas celebrations involve more than the appreciation of specific days and when and what to eat and drink.
Do we who have been led astray by a worldly tradition disguised as if it were from Christ himself continue to set up stumbling blocks and opportunities for our loved ones to fall?
I agree. Christian Folks who vilify Christmas are misguided in my view. Even the name "Christ Mass" is Christ centered.
Mass is a catholic thing.
Who keeps the Mass In. The Christ-mass -,why RCs of course! Christ was never born on the 25th December! True Christian’s only want light and truth .
No where in the New Testament is Christmas mentioned as a celebration. We are not commanded to make Christ’s birth into a religious celebration - the Apostles and disciples of Christ never seemed to celebrate His birthday and neither did the NT Church - so we should not celebrate it either. We have no authority to worship as we please or add religious holidays into our worship.
As for trees and holly and mistletoe etc. pagans are recorded as decorating their homes with these things for their festivals.
We can’t make an argument from silence.
Where does the Bible say that we are allowed to use the Internet?
@@lionoffireraw this is splitting hairs! I was referring to spiritual things, things we do in the church to worship our Lord!
Humans have always been able to use whatever tools are available to them throughout the Bible history. So long as they do not use them in a sinful way of course!
Mankind has progressed by invention of tools.
Do you have the holy spirit on you? Have you a relationship with the heavely Father?
Though you have presented a very good argument that Christmas celebration on the 25th does not have pagan origins.....a neutral stance is probably not much of a consolation to many Christians. The major problem lies not in its origin but in fact what it has become.
Yeah. Greed and selfishness have messed up Christmas. I work in retail and I've never liked Black Friday.
It is not wrong because it is based on the Goddess Mirtha and God says in the book of Jeramiah 10:1-5. Furthermore, Paul the Apostle clearly says in Colossians 2:8 "Don't go after philosophy and vain deceit nor tradition of men or rudiments of the world.
Bottom line is no one knows when Jesus was born and Christmas is based on a lie. Jesus is truth nor did he command anyone to celebrate his birthday being no one knows it. It is nothing more than vain worship and God makes it clear. Don't forget about what Jesus said to those Pharisees who criticized his disciples for eating with dirty hands in Matthew 15:3 "Why do ye transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?"
Jesus told us how to remember him and it is his Last Supper with his disciples for his death for our sins.
What is fact is Christmas was declared by Constantine who worshipped pagan gods and the Catholic church wanted the pagans to be members in the church. They accepted all their idol worship traditions and this is why Christmas is pagan rooted.
Matt you have not given one scripture that states it's ok to honor Christmas and it's ok to worship him in this way. In fact, the Christian celebration of Christmas was invented by Romans as a way to co-opt and tame the raucous pagan holiday of Saturnalia, which was itself essentially a celebration of the days getting longer after the winter solstice.
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The bottom line of what I am expressing is the fact neither God nor Jesus Christ told us to celebrate his birthday. Reason being, neither has told any of his disciples his birthday and it being was kept a secret for a reason. Therefore, Christmas is man-made based around lies and the devil is the father of lies but Jesus Christ is truth!
Don't let yourself be deceived being you have been wrongfully taught to celebrate such a day that isn't commanded by God nor the Son. We remember and give thanks for his birth and death for our sins in our prayers to him. If it was about celebrating his birth, why everyone stops talking about his birth soon Christmas is over? Think about that.
I addressed a lot of this in the video.
(Including Jeremiah 10:1-5).
You can’t make an argument form silence.
Can you give me one Bible verse that says that you are allowed to use the internet? Just one? Did the Father or Jesus tell you in Scripture that you’re allowed to use the internet
I proved historically that Christmas does not have pagan origins.
Romans 14 issue.
It’s not a sin to celebrate it.
It’s not a sin to not celebrate it.
The only sin is to tell people that they don’t have the freedom to make their own choice on the matter!
Deuteronomy 18:9 When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
Leviticus 20:23 You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them.
Good thing we don't, then. December 25th is a date. We worship God and celebrate the birth of the incarnate Son of God.
God calls practicing Christmas traditions as idolatry.
Jeremiah 10: 2-4:
“Thus says the Lord:
“Do not learn the way of the Gentiles;
Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven,
For the Gentiles are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the peoples are futile,
For one cuts a tree from the forest,
The work of the hands of the workman, with the ax.
4 They decorate it with silver and gold;
They fasten it with nails and hammers
So that it will not topple.”
For people who practic such pagan traditions:
Jer 10:21: For the shepherds have become dull-hearted,
And have not sought the LORD;
Therefore they shall not prosper,
And all their flocks shall be scattered.”
That has nothing to do with a Christmas tree. That passage is talking about cutting down trees, and using the wood from trees to make idols, and then decorating the idols and then worshipping them.
The entire context of this passage, and Jeremiah is the worship, idols. I’m surprised that people think this has anything to do with Christmas trees. It absolutely does not.
@@lionoffireraw You are incorrect. What do you think a christmas tree is? Worshipping trees and adorning them is a PAGAN tradition. They did that in ancient time in Babylon in GROVES. They celebrated Yule logs ( pagan burnt offerings to gods ) They later carried it on in ancient Rome etc. It was then picked up as a christmas tradition later on by the Germans who worshipped pagan idols.
The early christians did NOT celebrate christmas. The christmas traditions clearly came from pagan practices. Constantine took pagan practices later on and christianized them. Do your homework.
We are to follow the feast days that our messiah did...all man made holidays are pagen...
Feasts are old covenant.
@@lionoffireraw No, they are not. And you are deceived. We are 2 celebrate Passover, not Easter which is also pagan. In Zechariah, it talks about how all the people's are 2 come to the Feast of Tabernacles...not just Israelites. And that those who do not, will not see rain. And since you go on about the "Old Covenant".....guess where the "New Covenant" is 1st mentioned? In Jeremiah! The same book that talks about the heathen practice of cutting down trees and bringing them N-side and covering them with gold and silver. I don't know how long you have been a believer, but scripture (New Testament) strictly forbids those 'new" in the faith from teaching others. Look how many years Paul had to be instructed by others? And he was first taught br JESUS HIMSELF
The fact that the whole world loves these man made holidays says enough for me. What do we have in common with the world . Nothing. The fact the world loves it should ring alarm bells. Think about that. This is so simple. WHY IS THEIR NO WHERE in the scriptures told to us to celebrate man made holidays of Christmas or Easter.
Romans 14 issue 😃
@@lionoffirerawromans 14 is about food and fasting.
Jesus says twice in Revelation that He HATES what the Nicolations do.....the Nicolations mixed Christianity with pagan celebrations and traditions
That's enough for me to not celebrate the world does
Except Christmas isn’t pagan in origin.
@@lionoffirerawDo you have prove?
@@lionoffireraw Christmas wasn't 'invented until the 4th century, and it was on this specific day because pagans had the same day as a celebration....the church wanted more attendees so they invented 'Christmas'
@@lionoffireraw dare I ask, do you know what a Nicolation is?
@@huffepuf3066 Yes. The video provides definitive historical proof 🙏
Thank you for this, Matt. I haven't commented much lately, but this is really helpful. I grow weary of the "Christmas is pagan" myth as much as I do the myth that the Canon and/or the Trinity were invented at the Council of Nicea.
We are not even commanded to celebrate His birth, so who is man to think that we should??
“Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of YHWH your Elohim which I am commanding you. ~Deuteronomy 4:2
There is so much conflicting information online, so as to create confusion. Satan is the author of confusion.
My husband has done hundreds of hours of research on this kind of stuff, and he is found that there is 100% proof that Christmas IS pagan in it's roots, and scripture is very clear that we are to take NO part in pagan ways.
I would definitely err on the side of caution even if I thought it wasn't Pagan. We are only human and we can always be wrong. There is no consequence if we DON'T celebrate these man-made holidays, but IF it IS a sin to celebrate them, and we do, then there will be a MASSIVE consequence!
Why anyone would take that chance is just beyond me! We are only supposed to obey the scriptures, not what man and traditions say to do!!
I’ve proven in this video with historical facts that Christmas is not pagan. there’s nothing to “chance.”
Even if it was (which it’s not), symbols and words change meanings all the time. Did you know that the days of the week a pagan? do you use the days of the week?
Do you know that Paul pointed to a pagan altar, and claimed that this unknown god was the God of the Bible?
People need to think these things through a bit more carefully.
Yes, my husband, through his research, found out that the days of the week, and most of the months names are pagan a few years ago. When we found that out, we stopped using those names and we use 1st day, 2nd day, 3rd day, 4th day, 5th day, 6th day, and Shabbat (Sabbath) as the days of the week.
I totally agree that people need to think about things a bit more carefully. Where in scripture does it command that we celebrate the Messiah's birth? It doesn't. But YHWH gave us HIS Appointed Times. Those are the days we are commanded to keep. They are not the Jews Holy Days. YHWH says, "these are My Feasts" in Leviticus 23:2
You always seemed so sincere in your videos, which is why I subscribed to you, but now you seem to act like you know better than everyone else, and there's no possible way you can be wrong. But maybe that's just my perception. We all can be wrong. One day we will all find out what we've been wrong about, as none of us, surely, have every single belief right. Just, hopefully, we have the ones that really, truly matter, right! I say all of this with all due respect and love.
I think it’s actually the other way around with people. I used to believe that Christmas was pagan, until I actually humbled myself and did the research. And then I was able to see the truth that I presented in this video. There’s absolutely no way that someone can watch this video and say that I am incorrect historically. I would ask anyone to show me where I am incorrect historically?
Sadly, many of the people in the comments, get very self-righteous about not celebrating Christmas. I have no problem if people choose not to celebrate Christmas, that is not a sin. But to judge others for using their freedom in Christ, is itself a sin.
I think my presentation was incredibly humble. I even said no matter what one chooses on the issue is, we can respect whether we choose to celebrate or not celebrate.
The thing that I’m mainly seeing in the comments is that those who choose not to celebrate Christmas acting in a condescending and self righteous way, towards those who choose to celebrate Christmas.
I also note that no one has been able to provide any historical evidence in these comments that refutes what I’ve said. It’s really frustrating when I go to all the effort to put in the research and presentation, and people simply say “you’re wrong” but can’t provide any information to demonstrate this claim.
Please provide evidence that people celebrated 'birthdays" in scripture
When Jesus was born the shephards were in the fields with the lambs in ISRAEL....that definitely wasn't DECEMBER
They’re good arguments against that. This also includes the temperatures in Bethlehem during that time.
Most Christians accepted Jesus Christ bith in December and the Catholic church claimed 25th in the 2nd century.
@@vampyresgraveyard3307Their are facts that the messiah was born monts early. And was not born on 25 december.
Have you actually been there? In December it is cold. And they certainly don't have the shepherds and the sheep out in the field.
@@TravelWithTerahTX True, and the Messiah was born months early. Some say that Christ was born at September or October, but their are some facts that the Messiah was born in a spring month.
AMEN‼️The Bible clearly says Heaven and Earth rejoiced and praised God for His wonderful gift to the world❣️🎄❤️Thank you for sharing
I find that it’s religious people who are against Christmas, leave the rest of us alone. I love celebrating the birth of Christ and I don’t care what anyone thinks. My relationship with Christ is personal.
So then you must know that Jezus was never born at 25 december. The Messiah was born in a spring season.
@@huffepuf3066
Are you a Satanist?
@@lemongate4869What have Satanist to do with the fact that Christ was never born in 25 december?
Merry CHRISTmas to all ❤💚❤️ God bless you and your family 🙏🏼 Sending everyone much love in this beautiful season . ❤️💚❤️
lol someone is definitely celebrating Christmas this year. 🎄
"One of the most striking examples of the exploits of this apostate Church is the so-called Christmas. We want Christ, but we don't need a mass. Originally, December 25, the so-called Christmas Day, was the day when ancient Europeans worshiped the sun. They said that December 25 was the birthday of the sun. When the apostate church spread to Europe, its assimilated this ancient custom, because its had welcomed thousands of unbelievers into the church. These disbelievers still wanted to celebrate their god's birthday. Therefore, to please them, the apostate church declared December 25 as Christ's birthday. This is the fountain of Christmas. The book "The Two Babylon" exposes the origin of the evil, demonic and pagan things that were introduced into the apostate church. If we see this picture on the negative side, then we will know what we should be on the positive side."
Watchman Nee
As I demonstrated in this video, the birth of Christ was calculated well before any pagan holiday was observed on Dec 25. It was actually the other way around. Pagans copied Christians and used this date.
Historical evidence in the video
@@lionoffireraw THE FACTS AND TRUTH ABOUT CHRISTMAS
Christmas, the celebrated birthday of Jesus Christ, was incorporated into the Church in the 4th century. Prior to that time, December 25th was a day set aside for pagan worship. By the 5th century, the Roman Catholic Church ordered that the birth of Christ be celebrated on December 25th.
December 25th was the same date of the Roman Feast of the birth of Sol, the sun god. Sol is also known as Nimrod the son and husband to the Semiramis. (Ezekiel 8:14)
December 25th is also a time to celebrate Tammuz (the reincarnated Nimrod). In Ezekiel 8:4, the prophet spoke of how the people turned their backs to the temple of the Lord’s house, prayed toward the east (sun god) and worshipped Tammuz.
The Lord tells us to commemorate his death through the Lord’s Supper (until He returns). Nowhere does the Lord tell us to celebrate His birth. I Corinthians 11 :26
Christmas is a name incorporated by the Roman Church. It stands for Christ Mass. The Roman Church instituted the celebration of Christ Mass on December 25th, the same date as the idol god’s celebration. The pagan worship was already present when the Body of Christ joined itself to it. I Corinthians 11 :26.
The custom of giving gifts was adopted from the acts of St. Nicholas who lived in the 4th century. His legend spread throughout Europe. A Christian figure of St. Nicholas was created, bringing the pagan gift-giving act into the body of Christ. The pagan feast and the Christian Holiday became one.
The Christmas tree represents the body of Nimrod and is considered an idol. Jeremiah mentioned the decorating of the fir tree. Jeremiah 10: 1-4.
Jesus was not born in the wintertime. Luke 2:8.
There are more suicides in December than any other month.
There are more deaths in December than any other month.
Americans pile up more consumer debt in December than any other month.
More persons battle depression in December than any other month.
Jesus is not the reason for this season!
Pastor, what difference does it make? Why are you so picky? We are simply celebrating Jesus’ birthday.
Christmas is a celebration of disobedience to God! Furthermore, you cannot speak into reality that which God has not ordained. If a concept, idea or plan is not in God’s mind, all of our intentions, practices and speeches are not going to change the reality.
I’ve actually proven this to be incorrect. If you see in the video, Christmas was actually first celebrated in the third century. By the year 211 a.d, three separate writers had calculated this day as the day of Christ’s birth (rightly or wrongly). It wasn’t until the year 274 A.D. that a pagan holiday was celebrated on 25 December. This was actually after Christmas we celebrated by Christians, and was a response to the rise in popularity of Christianity. It was also a response to the decline of pagan observances.
Your “fifth century” claim is not factually true. In the video at least three Christian writers that calculated this date prior to 274 A.D.
The other parts incorporated into the celebration, don’t matter to me, because people can choose not to participate in those practices. As I said in the video, no one should include Santa Claus. These things are rose overtime, and where incorporated into Christmas. Christmas did not begin like that. and of course, no Christian has to incorporate those things.
Christmas was celebrated over 100 years before the Roman Catholic Church was even established.
What does it matter the date on which Jesus was born. Is this really important? Jesus was born, when, who cares?
I think celebrating the birth of the Incarnation of the Son of God is something we should do every year. The angels and the shepherds all praised God on that night. I don't think there's anything wrong with us celebrating Jesus' birth, too, even if we don't have the date right.
@YouDon't KnowMe
I absolutely agree with you.
Excellent argument, Matt.
I used to believe Christmas was pagan and I was holier than thou and refused to celebrate it. Then the Holy Spirit continued working on my heart. This controversy is a snare from the devil to Christians and quite frankly makes us look bad. The bible clearly says that whatever you do WITHOUT FAITH is SIN. We are also clearly told that we are not to judge what days people choose to celebrate as Holy but everything you do, do as unto the LORD. Of course the devil has introduced a pagan element to Christmas; santa and reindeers and elves and materialism which is love of the world. But all of this doesn't diminish the fact that there is as much evidence that Christ was born on December 25 than there is that He wasn't. Also, this is one day the world will allow you to share about JESUS Christ. And this is an opportunity none of us should miss. The last time I checked we were saved by Grace through FAITH, not by celebrating the proper feasts or holidays. This is one of those things that the Holy Spirit corrects as you begin to mature in the faith. Also, if you google the average temperature in Bethlehem, Israel on December 25th, it's between 55°F and 61°F, warm enough for lambs and Shepherds to be in the fields. Be blessed in Christ JESUS our LORD.
I’m glad that you wake up from that deception. It would be easy to fall into it. You sound like you have a really great perspective now.
Yes, that whole shepherds argument is easily refuted.
I agree with much of what you shared, particularly about the devil's involvement in the pagan element of christmas and the controversy being a snare to Christians. However, sin is anything that is done against the will of God, not "whatever you do WITHOUT FAITH." The verse you are referencing states that, "But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin." and you are twisting the meaning to make it carry more weight than it actually does. A good summary of Romans 14 is: Put a higher value on keeping unity in the community of believers than on your personal opinion when it comes to eating meat versus vegetarianism, fasting or not fasting on a given day or about diet in general, “for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit” (verse 17).
Celebrating Christ's birth on the 25th of dec. is akin to the Areopagus altar to the unknown god (Acts 17). Many pagan gods are said to have a dec. 25th birthday; such as mithra, dionysus, thammuz, hermes, and adonis. Adding Christ to this list is so very disrespectful to Him, it’s disgraceful. Incorporating trees, wreaths, and the like, along with the activities associated with saturnalia and yule into the birthday festivities is akin to Saul not completely destroying the Amalekites and all that they had, and instead taking of theirs what he perceived to be good and offering it to GOD. Celebrating Christ's birth on any particular day of the year is akin to Nadab and Abihu offering to the LORD that which He had not commanded, a fire that was not authorized. None of these things glorify God, they are in rebellion to His instruction. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Luke 22:17-20 states what we are to do in remembrance of Him, we have not been authorized to add anything to this.
I have not read anything in the new testament that refutes Deuteronomy 12:29-31, in fact I would say that 1st Corinthians 10 confirms it. This command, like all of His commands, was given to us out of love. He knows what’s going on in the spiritual realm better than you or I do, and His instruction is for our protection, we would be wise to take heed.
To conclude: 1. an idol is nothing, what is being offered to the idol is actually being offered to demons, 2. the things offered to demons are not to be feared, the demons are not to be honored or even given the appearance of acceptance, 3. nothing in itself is a sin, it is a sin when it is done against the will of God, 4. no one can serve two masters, you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons, 5. “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind." Dec. 25th is a designated idol worshiping day. Dec. 17- jan. 6 is a pagan palooza. Participating in the pagan customs of saturnalia and yule is paying homage to demons. Choosing to partake in these festivities is demonstrating love of worldly traditions over love of GOD’s instruction. It matters not that it is said to be in honor of Christ, that is merely lip service. The Holy Father loves His children, He is jealous for them, wanting them all to Himself. The hearts of His children shall not be divided, He will not share them with another. Let not the enemy deceive you.
Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is viewing good as evil and evil as good, and acting in accordance to those views. The reason it is unforgivable is because if you view good as evil, you will not follow after righteousness. On the other hand, if you view evil as good, you will not repent of it. That is to say, blaspheming the Holy Spirit is behaving in opposition to the truth of GOD's Word, and it is unforgivable because the person who does so is not aware of their need for forgiveness, therefore does not seek after it and continues to embrace their sin.
Continuing to follow the lie that christmas honors Christ when it is actually in opposition to GOD's instruction for us, is what brings about Isaiah 63:7-10 and 2nd Thessalonians 2:6-12. Now is the time for Isaiah 63:15-19. Grace and peace.
Also, why do you think that it is the one day the world will allow you to share about Christ? Could it be that the god of this world, which is satan, wants to drag more and more potential believers into the pit? "Christmas is quite possibly the craftiest scheme of the enemy of GOD. “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues." -Revelation 18:4
Various religions look to the calculations of Hippolytus of the third century to set the date of the birth of Jesus. According to this calculation, Jesus died on March 25 and he was conceived thirty-three years earlier on the same date. It has been pointed out that nine months from there would give December 25 for the date of Jesus’ birth.
Others maintain that Zechariah (Johns farther) was a high priest and was in the temple burning incense on 'The Day of Attornment'. That would be about September. Nine months on comes to June the next year. John was 6 months older than Jesus add six months and we have December 25 .
Zechariah was of the division of Abijah and was the high priest. He dis bot serve at Yom- Kippur
The Jewish calendar does not line up with ours. It is depending on when the full moon occurs. One of their months can overlap 2 of our months. For example month 1 Nisan the First day of their year fell on March 17 of the year 2018 but on April 6 2019. So we can say that month 1 of the Jewish calendar was between our March and April. Month 2 will be between our May or June etc
Therefore Zechariah was in the temple sometime in our May/June or our December/January, NOT September
If Elizabeth became Pregnant in June, then she was 6 months pregnant with John in December. Nine months on from then when Jesus was born is end of September/ October.
If Elizabeth became pregnant in about our January the she was 6 months pregnant in about are June and that would have mage the Birth of Jesus in our March. There are other factors that show that Jesus was born in September October. The rituals of Christmas are of pagan origin.
It should no be what people like the third century **Roman** man Hippolytus thought ***but what the Bible indicates.*** The Bible indicates September/October
Hippolytus would have been very well aware of the sun worship. Before Rome adapted the Syrian Sol Invictus they had Sol Indiges (the deified sun) According to Roman sources, the worship of Sol was introduced by Titus Tatius shortly after the foundation of Rome. In Rome, Sol had an "old" temple in the Circus Maximus according to Tacitus (56-117 CE),] and this temple remained important in the first three centuries CE.
In other words, people do your research, disregard the online gotcha content on it, and follow your convictions without judging others 😎.
Good job, this is another topic where grace is needed when Christians meet with differing view, it's easy to see from the comments those who have much and those who are lacking. My present to everyone is more grace.
Some Christians need to realize that celebrating certain holiday isn't necessary pagan. For example, I have seen christians saying that Purim (the jewish holiday that commemorates the events that happened in the book of Esther) is pagan because it wasn't established by Moses (practically a phariseic argument) even though that Purim is in the scriptures, so saying that Purim is pagan is denying a whole book of the Bible. This is the same logic that occurs with Christmas, its origin isn't pagan and the argument that "it's not in the Bible, so it's pagan" is not a valid one. I have seen christians judging others who put a tree with christmas lights in their house, and that's totally absurd. Celebrating Christmas and having a dinner with your family is not a sin. Giving gifts to your family or friends is not a sin. The fact that a thing is not in the Bible doesn't mean that it's bad. Celebrating your birthday for example is not pagan, and the argument that it is just because only Pharaoh and Herod celebrated their birthdays in the Bible is literal no sense. If a christian celebrates his birthday in a christian way is a good thing, and there is nothing bad on it, and if a christian celebrates Christmas in a christian way, there is nothing bad on it too, and there is nothing bad in having a meal with your family or conmemorating the born of Jesus even if we don't know the exact date. If a christian doesn't want to celebrate Christmas it's okay, but defending that decision with the scriptures and preaching that in God's name is not okay, and it just brings bitterness and confusion. I used to think that if something is not in the scriptures, then it is automatically pagan or bad, but that thinking only makes division. God bless you.
Colossians 2:16 NLT
So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths.
Colossians 3:17 NLT
And whatever you do or say, do it as a representative of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through him to God the Father.
1 Timothy 4:4-5 NLT
Since everything God created is good, we should not reject any of it but receive it with thanks. For we know it is made acceptable by the word of God and prayer.
2 Timothy 2:14 NLT
Remind everyone about these things, and command them in God’s presence to stop fighting over words. Such arguments are useless, and they can ruin those who hear them.
Its not in the Bible.
It is a commercial celebration.
Millions of people celebrate X mas and are not Christians or believers.
It's Pagen. !
Christ instructed us to keep only two Sacraments, and the Lord ,s suppper.
The internet isn’t in the Bible either!
Romans 14 issue!
After watching MANY videos on all of these topics, I have to 100 % disagree with you. #1) its a fact that Jesus wasn't born in December, so WHY that date? #2) why do we give gifts to each other, but not to Jesus as the wise men did? #3) the story of santa claus and st Nick are DISTURBING which is 99% of what this holiday season is all about.
You really need to pray on this one.
1. That’s debatable and neither here not there.
2. You don’t have to give gifts
3. I advised in the video not to include Santa in Christmas celebrations.
This video simply proves 100% that Christmas does not have pagan origins.
As I said in the video. Romans 14
@lionoffireraw your 100% is debatable as well and I think we should ALL practice discernment when it comes to the Bible. NONE of us can translate it 100%. And if you say you can, that's prideful?
1) Why should it matter? The dates for Good Friday and Easter/Resurrection Sunday change every year, but we still celebrate them. The exact date doesn't matter. Who we're celebrating and worshipping is what matters.
2) How would we give gifts to Jesus right now? He doesn't want material things. He doesn't want gifts or sacrifices. He wants people to repent and worship him as Lord and Savior.
3) How is Saint Nicholas disturbing? He is depicted as a pious, caring, humble, and generous Christian.
Coming from a strictly astronomical point of view, the Bethlehem star, which was actually the planet Jupiter, stopped its third and final retrograde over the town of Bethlehem on December 25th. It follows that around that same time the Magi bestowed their gifts on the toddler Jesus.
In the book of Revelation it talks about the Virgin rising with the moon at her feet, Virgo is The star sign towards the end of August and beginning of September. This means that Jesus was either conceived or born at around that time. Brilliantly enough, the way the Magi knew that the arrival of Jesus was being announced was because Jupiter, the king planet, was in retrograde motion at the right paw of Leo, the lion over the king star Regulus. King, King, King.
That super bright star? That was Jupiter and Venus coming so close in conjunction. It looked like it was one star.
It's actually quite brilliant how the star s told the story of the arrival of the Messiah. As was foretold in Psalms and other parts of the Old Testament.
@YouDontKnowMeSoYouDontKnowJack everything you said was ridiculous lol
Will the shepherds keep their flock out in winter!? Remember how the shepherds were out in the field when Jesus was born? Are we commanded to celebrate Jesus birthday like Herod till He returns or are we commanded to declare His death instead? Does the world so love Jesus unlike what He said as almost all counties (even the Muslim ones like Iran) nowadays celebrate Christmas so hardcore?! What about Jeremiah 10 that highlights that tree? What about the customs of the world we are commanded not to conform to? What about the concept of Santa that children later come to find as a lie and therefore consider God and Jesus to be lie too?? My brother, I can go on and on about the contradictory facts about this satanic Holi (magic) day but I spare you… you know the scriptures…
Thank you for this. Merry Christmas!
I have two simple questions to help answer the question of whether one is to celebrate Christmas or not:
1/ Did the early church, ie in the Book of Acts, celebrate Christmas? Did the Apostles?
2/ Was celebrating Christmas ever mandated by God?
Answer them both with a sincere response, and there's your answer
1 no
2 no
Now answer my questions
1. Did the early church ever use the Internet?
2. Was the Internet ever mandated by God?
The point being, that we can’t make an argument from silence.
You would have to actually prove that it is a sin to do so. You can’t do this. This is a Romans 14 issue.
@lionoffireraw my questions about Christmas and the early church have more relevance than the use of the internet, brother.
Who am I to judge?
I put the litmus test down to what God wants vs worldly traditions.
Does God want us to celebrate Christmas? I don't think so
Is Christmas Biblical or a worldly tradition that came about after the inception of the early church? Worldy, and post early church.
Notice that I did not use or allude to any use of the word pagan?
Don't need to. Those two questions alone suffice for me, to know that I choose not to celebrate it.
The key word being choice.
Does that make me a better or worse Christian than others?
I'll let the Lord decide that.
Please brother, read Mystery Babylon Religion
@5porteno that was ab excellent rebuke. Well said. The internet parallel is glibb and insincere. No one is worshipping or having church services based all around the idea of the internet
@jamesenewold8864 thank you, brother.
Not meaning to offend but rather offer another perspective from the Bible's view
People want 2 keep their "traditions". Even if there is no scriptural evidence 2 do so. Just like the Pharisees.
Have to disagree agree with on this one brother but you do put out thought provoking videos. Keep up the good work.
It’s okay for Christians to not celebrate Christmas 😊
The point of this video was to historically prove that Christmas does not have pagan origins.
I don’t mind Christmas on the 25th of December; that is when we celebrate the birthday of our Christ.
What I do mind is al the other weird nonsense like the fat clown in a red ruit, the tree and the whole circus.
Regardless of whether this is true, no Christian should be celebrating Sun-mas (or Satan-mas?). Christ never directed us to commemorate and celebrate the date of His birth. If He wanted us to, He would have made the date of His birthday clear in scripture and either He or the apostles would have encouraged or commanded us to do so. Furthermore, there are only two examples in scripture of people celebrating their birthdays: Herod and Pharoah. Both were wicked men. We must worship God in spirit and truth, not based on tradition.
But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth." (John 4:23-24 ESV)
Thus says the LORD: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good.” (Jeremiah 10:2-5 ESV)
See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. (Colossians 2:8 ESV)
And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world--he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. (Revelation 12:9 ESV)
Amen. God bless you.
Argument from silence.
That’s a fallacy.
If Jesus wanted you to drive a car, he would have put it in the Bible… see how that works?
@lionoffireraw, can we truly be certain that Jesus was born on the 25th of December? Historical and biblical evidence suggests otherwise. If the exact date of His birth is unknown, celebrating it on a date rooted in man-made tradition raises the question: how can this be considered worshipping Him in spirit and in truth (John 4:23-24)? Scripture consistently warns us to avoid the leaven of human traditions that overshadow or distort God's commands (Mark 7:7-9).
Your argument about the “argument from silence” actually aligns with the very behaviour Jesus condemned in the Pharisees. They imposed additional restrictions on the Sabbath that God never commanded, making it burdensome rather than a blessing (Mark 2:27). Moreover, they added other traditions, such as ceremonial washings of cups, pots, and hands, which Jesus explicitly rebuked, saying, “You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men” (Mark 7:8). If we accept your reasoning, their additions would be justified because God didn’t explicitly forbid those exact practices. Yet, Jesus condemned them for nullifying God’s Word by their traditions (Mark 7:13).
In the same way, introducing celebrations or practices that God has neither commanded nor affirmed in His Word must be approached cautiously. Furthermore, Christians should be doubly cautious about celebrating on December 25th because of its well-documented associations with sun worship. Historically, this date was first celebrated as Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (the “Birthday of the Unconquered Sun”) before it was later adopted as the supposed date of Christ’s birth. The first recorded instance of December 25th being celebrated as Christ’s birth is found in a Roman calendar from AD 336, irrespective of whether some “Christian” theologians had proposed it earlier, further highlighting its late and non-biblical origin. Additionally, it has been speculated that this date has roots all the way back to ancient Babylon, marking the birth of Nimrod/Tammuz, approximately 37 weeks after the pagan fertility celebration of Easter (Ishtar/Ashtoreth). By aligning such an important event with a pagan festival, we risk blending the worship of God with the practices of those who worshipped creation rather than the Creator (Romans 1:25).
Let’s also remember the abominable practices described in Ezekiel 8, where the people were worshipping the sun, bowing down to it in the temple of God. God condemns this idolatry as a detestable act of rebellion (Ezekiel 8:16-18). As Ecclesiastes 1:9 reminds us, “There is nothing new under the sun”. The same sun worship that was condemned in ancient Israel continues to influence modern practices, such as the celebration of December 25th, and the changing of God’s Seventh Day Sabbath to Sunday (the day of the sun) making it even more crucial to carefully examine our traditions.
And let’s not forget Jeremiah 10:2-5, which explicitly warns against adopting the customs of the nations. It describes the cutting of a tree from the forest, decking it with silver and gold, and fastening it so it does not topple. This tradition continues today, with the addition of offering presents beneath the tree, which further elevates it as an idol. If such a practice is clearly warned against in Scripture, how can it be justified as part of worshipping the Lord in spirit and truth?
Additionally, Deuteronomy 12:29-32 instructs God’s people not to inquire about how other nations worship their gods or to adopt those practices in honour of Him. The passage explicitly forbids adding to or taking away from what God has commanded, highlighting that worship must align solely with His Word. By adopting practices with pagan origins, even if well-intentioned, we risk falling into the very syncretism God condemns.
Worship should not only be sincere but also consistent with God's Word, free from the influence of human traditions, and honour God in the way He has commanded-not in ways borrowed from the world.
I'm glad I don't worship Saturnas or whoever. I don't even know who that is. I celebrate Jesus and his birth.
@@YouDontKnowMeSoYouDontKnowJack Satanmas... you don't know who Satan is?
Here are the scriptures regarding pagan worships days: Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.
Jeremiah 10:1-5 Hear the word that the Lord speaks to you, O house of Israel. Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are vanity. A tree from the forest is cut down and worked with an axe by the hands of a craftsman. They decorate it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good.”
I love Christmas!
So do I! Merry Christmas!!
To all who seek nothing but the Truth, ask yourselves why does God who is the Ancient of Days (Dan 7:9, 13, 21, Isa 43:13..), the Beginning and the End (Rev 21:6, 22:13), the God who is from Everlasting to Everlasting (1 Chron 16:36, 29:10, Ps 41:13, 90:2...), the great I AM (Ex 3:14, Isa 43:10-13, Heb 13:8..) or the Ominpresent God present through all times of Timelessness to Time and back to Timelessness again, refuse to date Himself or His mighty Deeds - whether it is His fulfilled First Coming or His forthcoming Second Coming and all the rest of it (eg. Acts 1:7, Ps 75:2, 1 Cor 4:5..)??? Why has He instead given us very many undeniable and symbolic Signs to help us decipher and recognize them?? Why has He taught us the only holy, eternal, perfect and pleasing manner by which we may truly commemorate His First Coming and the Fulfillment of His holy Sacrifice thereof - refer Lk 21:19, 1 Cor 11:26.. - just as it was meant to be since of old (eg. Gen 14:18)?? Let him who will understand, understand!
For all those who are unaware, the now concealed but nevertheless the true meaning of the word 'Christmas' is 'end of Christ' - the very reason for which it was concocted in the first place. In no language does the word 'mas' or 'mass' means 'birth', and that is a fact. Christmas has its roots ENTIRELY in Catholicism and hence Heathen in nature. The pagan angle is the newfound argument devised by these endtimes revival of Paganism in their bid to hijack the festivities entirely for themselves. The reason the pseudo-intellectuals or the self-professing sons of ape lend them their huge support/following, so much so that it has come to be hugely celebrated worldwide, irrespectivecof nationality, language or religion, oh yes even by the Protestants themselves, under the new name of Winter Holidays or just Holidays - its sole beneficiary being the global business community who reap a huge profit - whilst of course also giving Catholicism its annual booster impetus.
Finally, dear Matt, pray do tell from whence have you acquired the title 'Man-child' in reference to the Word Incarnate??
When did I say man-child?
What time stamp on the video?
@lionoffireraw Thank you for finally responding to me, though it did not surprise me one bit that you like the rest of them out there, choose rather to ignore my faithful ministry of the Word. And, as for the usage of the term 'Man-child', yes, I admit in my haste I confused 'Magi' for 'Man-child' at about 4:31 owing to the difference in our pronunciation of the word 'Magi'. I am utterly sensitive and averse to any reference of Christ as 'Man' or 'Man-child' which as you have seen all churches without exception do.
I accept your apology. No problems.
@@lionoffireraw I have admitted to my misunderstanding citing the very sensitive reason behind it. But as you can see, I have not apologized as I see no reason to. As it is I have no desire to cater to your pride.
You read an apology where there was none. Same as I heard 'Man-child', I reckon.
Yes it is pagan. I have to disagree with you on this. Where in the Bible are these holidays? There aren’t in it.
It’s okay for Christians to not celebrate Christmas 😊
The point of this video was to historically prove that Christmas does not have pagan origins.
@@lionoffirerawwhat about Jeremiah....do not deck the trees in silver and gold? The yule? The mistletoe? Alllll of those have pagan origins, there's no getting around it?
Christmas itself was not a holiday in the Bible. You are reaching. There are always going to be pagan beliefs, called duality, at any Christian belief on that holiday. Easter has Ishtar and witches believe their pagan status on December days. But what you are missing is Easter and Christmas in actuality are based on the origins of Christ, not Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Ishtar, witchcraft and paganism. I understand wreaths, for example, are supposed to represent feminism, but icons and decorations are not the true meaning of Christmas, Thanksgiving and Easter my friend. It is undeniable. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
@@CoooolAsACucumberIf you read it for what Jeremiah was actually saying, he was talking about making a gold or silver idol, not a Christmas tree. It doesn't take a skilled worker in wood to cut down a Christmas tree. It does take a skilled worker in wood to sculpt an idol out of wood, and then to hammer out gold or silver into thin sheets, then covering the surface with that metal, conforming it to the shape with hammers, and nailing it into place, which is exactly how they made gold or silver idols. They were wooden sculptures, which were covered with gold or silver. All of that took some skill. No skilled artisan necessary to cut down a tree, anymore than to cut some firewood, which Jeremiah also shows the sculptor doing: he makes an idol with part of the tree, then uses the rest to cook his supper. The English word, "deck" also has the sense of covering a surface (just like a "deck" of a house or a ship), not like "deck the halls with boughs of holly". But people who just want to condemn, assume that decking means decorating the halls/house with Christmas decorations, and condemn people for putting an old plastic bell on the tree, with a mylar coating under the plastic which makes it look sort of like gold. This proves "idolatry" in their eyes, but it does not really prove that at all.
@@lionoffirerawwhy would a “Christian” not celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ? That doesn’t make sense!
The part that you're failing to mention to your viewers is that Christmas didn't come from the Roman Holiday. It came from the Germanic Tribes celebration of yule.
I will break it down for your viewers and afterwards we can have a discussion on it if you would like:
1. Almost every Yule tradition has been adopted into Christmas.
A. Evergreen tree with decorations.
B. The drinking of eggnog has been adopted by Christmas.
C. Leaving out milk and cookies has been adopted by Christmas.
D. Singing songs have been adopted by Christmas. The name is still mentioned today " Yuletide caroling"
Any many more traditions that are originally celebrated by pagans to celebrate Yule.
2. Haakon I Adalsteinsfostre or Haakon the Good) a king of Norway, who ruled in the 10th century, the Norse Yule celebration and Christian Christmas celebration were merged during his reign.
In many countries still in Europe Christmas as a word does not exist but yule does and it is used for Christmas. I would love to go into detail with you or any of your viewers that are interested and learning more about history.
3. To say that there is no early writings when the church burned everything when they forced people to convert by killings and beatings it's not a solid argument to stand on.
My argument to you is a simple question. And most Christians will not and cannot answer. Which is a red flag in itself:
Why is there no early mentions of Christmas from the church fathers in early writer?
Can you please answer that question until then no Christian has a leg to stand on 🤷
I would challenge you to a discussion or a debate. If you're Jesus is with you as you claim let's see how he stands against my Thor!
10th century??
The historical facts in this video show that 25 Dec was calculated as Christ’s birth (rightly or wrongly) by three Christian writers by the year 221AD.
This predates the 10th century by over 750 years!!!
Just because people have added different practices into it, doesn’t mean a thing.
It doesn’t mean that we have to adopt them either (as I mentioned in this video).
We can celebrate Christmas in a way that predates all of this!
I appreciate your effort in posting what you did, but it misses the mark on these multiple levels!!!
It doesn't matter actually. Jesus, nor the apostles or angles instituted a feast in observance to the birth of Jesus. The only holy day we have to observe is the Lord's Day, and the only celebration in which some ornaments are used is in the Lord's Supper. Any other feast is an invention of man, and must be condemned.
Not true. Pagan deities and the worship of them is condemned in Scripture. Celebrating the birth of the incarnate Son of God is not. The angels and shepherds worshipped and praised God for Jesus' birth, so why shouldn't we?
@@YouDontKnowMeSoYouDontKnowJack I'm not gonna argument everything here, but I'd recommend you to read the "Regulative principle of worship" doctrine. Basically, we're commanded to worship in the way the Lord wants, not with our inventions.
@lgok I don't need to read any uninspired thing written by man to know what the Bible says about the issue. Celebrating the birth of Christ on a day that may or may not have a connection to some pagan tradition outside of Christianity is not condemned anywhere in the Bible.
@@YouDontKnowMeSoYouDontKnowJack You don't read anything besides the Bible then? Whether that be commentaries, doctrines, theological studies? You are denying that God iluminated people during the reformation? Are you even close to the piety of those who were willing to put their life for the truth?
@@lgok Not what I said. I said "I don't need to read any uninspired thing written by man to know what the Bible says about the issue." There's a difference. I do read other works, but the Bible comes first and, even though if it were all I had, I wouldn't need anything else. Celebrating Jesus' birth isn't pagan; the angels and shepherds did it on the night he was born and the wise men also a couple years later. It also doesn't violate a single prohibition in the Bible.
You know, I used to have a book about various pagan celebrations throughout the year and you could pick literally any other date to celebrate Jesus' birth and there would be a pagan celebration on or close to the date.
Don't celebrate Christmas if you don't want to, but practice some grace and don't self-righteously condemn people who do.
Thank you so much for clarifying this. There seems to be very strong views about Christmas now from so many Christians and it has really confused me and created a lot of guilt, so I am going on my own journey to work this out, but it certainly helps to know it isn't based on pagan beginnings. I have always believed Christmas is a wonderful opportunity to share Christ and feel that yes we need to be careful what we include in this celebration but it is fine to rejoice in Jesus' birth and the goodness of God.
There has to be a special day to acknowledge the one who scripture says was born to save us from our sins. He was born to die for us. You have to have the first advent , coming, before the second can happen.
Everyday is a good day to witness to somebody.... everyday above ground is a blessed day
Brother, celebrate Our Lord God yeshua from the minute you wake up every day & praise him, not man made events, Amen 🙏💯
As I said, it’s not a sin to celebrate Christmas, and it’s not as in not to celebrate Christmas. Each one has the freedom in Christ to make their own choice 🙏 When one claims that a person does not have this freedom, then it is the person making this claim who sins!
What about santa or father Christmas. Explain this please.
Did you watch the video?
@lionoffireraw yes I did
I said in the video that no Christian should include that as part of their Christmas celebration.
Santa comes from st Nicholas a Catholic that gave gifts to children on Christmas or around that time. People that say santa is Satan they don't know history and they don't know what they are talking about those people either too lazy to do proper research or they just take rumours from people that they don't know what there talking.
Christmas is pagan .Open your eyes and see who celebrates christmas these days, not real Christians. Look at the way it is celebrated.
I addressed all that in the video.
@lionoffireraw its all about who you choose to believe. If you ask the world whether it's festivals and holy days have evil origins, you are going to get a convenient answer that reassures you that they aren't. But that doesn't mean that they aren't. Its simply the worlds version of facts/truth.
No, it’s historical fact.
That’s like saying the fact that George Washington was the first US president is “the world’s version” of historical evidence.
History doesn’t work like that!
Analyze Luke chapter 1 carefully. Take your time. Graph it out. Pay CLOSE attention to verse 36 and 41 through 44. Think think think. Jesus was born in the spring!
There’s a lot of debate over this.
There are also objections to the shepherd argument. But I’m not making a claim on this either way!
@ Yes I totally understand there is lots of debate. I think we can learn a lesson from the fact that the Bible doesn’t explicitly give us a birthdate. I highly doubt it’s an “oversight” since the Bible is perfection!
That being said, once you really take a hard look at Luke chapter 1 it’s hard to see how it’s not spring. Worthy of study.
Their arguments against the Shepherd objection. This includes the temperature at this time of the year in Bethlehem. It could have easily been in December. I’m not saying that it definitely was, but we definitely can’t rule it out either.
@ I agree with that. There is also the difficulty of travel issue for the census based on the general weather status at that time of the year. But I think the biggest argument against is that thorough reading of Luke 1!
The very word ‘Christmas’ is Roman Catholic in origin… The Original word being Christ Mass… later being condensed to Christmas.
Christmas is not found in scripture, our only anchor of truth, neither any example of the Apostles and disciples celebrating the birth of Christ.
Roman Catholicism is not Christianity but pagan… therefore Christmas (Christ Mass) is of an unbiblical pagan origin, case closed.
This was understood in the days of the reformation. Early church leaders, including Charles Spurgeon, wrote against the celebration of Christ Mass. Here in the United States the celebration of Christ Mass was forbidden.
Those that defend the celebration of Christmas, must hold up both the bible and tradition in front of themselves, and determine which they are chasing after.
Something else to think about here. Christmas is perhaps the world’s MOST celebrated holiday.
Why would the world celebrate Christmas, if Christmas were truly about Jesus? Sure… the church would celebrate a holiday about Jesus, but the world?
Jesus was not deceiving us when he said, ““The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.”
John 7:7 KJV
When I first examined this topic, I observed a lesbian witch that I worked with, come into the Post Office one morning and decorate her area with Christmas decorations, as she wore her Santa hat and sang Christmas songs. It clicked that she hates Jesus, so why would she love Christmas to such a great degree?
The bible is not silent on Christmas, it tells us to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, not to be unequally yoked together with unbelievers, not to mix the holy with the profane, friendship with the world is enmity against God, and my personal favorite: traditions of men make the word of God of none effect.
Ceasing to celebrate Christmas has been the most difficult thing for me to face since I was born again. Not only was that chain of family tradition broken at me, others look at me as a zealot, and my own family gets extremely angry with me this time of year.
I do not criticize their decision to continue their traditions, I simply draw the line at not celebrating Christ Mass in my home. All this persecution for what? Are they able to persecute me using the scripture as a foundation? I think not. Why the persecution? Anyone who has taken a biblical stance against Christmas understands where I am coming from, undoubtedly they have seen persecution as well.
Christians can be the most loving and kind people, until you interfere with their unbiblical traditions.
By the way… every day of the year is a good day to evangelize Jesus Christ… not just the Christ Mass season. Contrary to popular belief, the world is not more open to Jesus during this season. They hate Jesus, and cannot find him in Christmas. Rightfully so, because Christ Mass is only a Pagan Roman Catholic tradition.
Very well said!!
Name aside, the celebration of Christmas birth on 25 December started over 100 years before the Roman Catholic Church even began to exist in the fourth century (and over 50 years before any pagan holiday was celebrated on this day) - see pinned comment for historical facts.
Do some research people!!
We use names today with pagan origins.
The days of the week. Do you ever use those names? (Just one of many examples).
Romans 14 issue.
@ Matt, can you cite your source please so I can research this? Thank you
It’s in the video, with links to articles.
Love it. I have struggled with this issue and the verse in Jeremiah was used to avoid setting up a tree. When I read it I came to the same conclusion as you have. I think the question to ask is what would a Jesus do? Is it a tradition to keep or not? Does it bring glory to God and Christ? Is self glorified? Are we willing to give it up if we have to? I enjoy the Christmas music on the radio at this time of year. The woke agenda has been trying to change the word Christmas to Happy Holidays. That changes the meaning and focus.
Santa does have Christian roots, in that he was based on the character of St Nicolas or Bishop Nicholas of Myra, in modern day Turkey. Nicholas was believed to be one the 180 bishops who attended Emperor Constantine's first Council of Nicaea, also in Turkey, in 325AD where amongst other matters, the Nicene Creed, part of the Profession of Faith, was formulated.
Whether it has ties to paganism or not, at the end of the day, it's a time where we believers can gather together to recognize and celebrate God's grand plan for the world come to pass.