From Ableton into the Pioneer DJS-1000, performing tracks live!
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- In this video I'll talk you through the whole process of how I take my own tracks produced in Ableton, exporting all the parts and getting them onto the Pioneer DJS-1000 ready to be performed live!
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I rewatch this video every couple of months to refresh inspiration. Well done. I love the DJS-1000.
Thanks! More DJS stuff coming soon!
Same here! I think I'm up to 3x already lol. I watched your SP16 review vid like 10x for sure. Lol. PioneerDJ owes you some commission. Lol! 👊
Me too.
My djs arrives tomorrow. I’m not a producer but really want to expand my performance skills. Please please please do more tutorials like this. It seems like it can do so much. I can see how I’d get stuck using only certain things
Best tutorail of DJS1000!!! made me buy one!
I’ve had the Djs1000 for almost 2 years now and have felt like I’ve hit a wall with what I can do, but ur tutorial has broadened my horizons. Thank you!
Glad I could help :)
Best tutorial of the DJS 1000 I have watched for the moment, congratulations Bro :)
Thanks! 👊
Mate Im so glad to found your video,just bought my DJS 1000 and standing here naked with Lol You helps a lots THANK YOU !! Please keep going with you're doing very well, thanks again !!
THANK-YOU THANK-YOU THANK-YOU! Your video showed me exactly what I needed to know to get up and running and make my first track only two hours after I opened my DJS-1000 box.❤
You can use Wavosaur batch processing :)
Thanks Dirty Secretz, this is this probably the only video that actually wants me to buy the DJS 1000.
Thank you, yes that was inspiring. Love your energy.
Best tutorial of the DJS 1000! Wow, I love it.... Now im gonna by one because of you :)
Glad to hear it's helped! It's a crazy good bit of kit, all it takes is someone to show you that killer feature for you and you're sold on it :)
Was drawn to Dirty Secretz 👍teaching style for Ableton on Udemy.
He has the ability to take the technical, and break it down in layman's term to keep the student engaged✊
Now that I am comfortable using Ableton 🎶, will add the DJS-1000 to my set up and refer to this tutorial✌
Thank you so much for this. I own a DJS-1000 and this is such a great video!
this really show me what you can do with the DJS 1000 thank you for the great video !!!
No problem! It's a great bit of a kit which can do so much, just a case of figuring out what makes sense in your own sets really
Great tutorial video as usual DS! Im looking forward to the next installment of other ways you integrate the DJS in your sets and the SP16 as that is what I'm using. Keep up the great work and I hope Pioneer is cutting you a nice check for your time.
You can normalize every sample when exporting it from Live, so you don‘t have to do it later. Just click on ‚normalize‘ once and that‘s it. Thx for the video!
I forgot all about that, generally I have the normalisation turned off when exporting stems so they all keep the same relative level for mixdowns but that would definitely help in this case!
Shift + Mute .. awesome thx ! Great vids mate
thanks a lot for providing so much info :)
This Video is what i have been waiting you for a year now! Awesome!! please do more
Glad you like it! What more did you want to see? :)
@@DirtySecretz Hay., sorry for the delay i missed your reply. i just watched your simple techniques video which was a great help as well! it would be great to have a better understanding of scale mode and how to play melody's and bass lines with it. also watch mode to use as there are so many. again great work on theses videos :)
There are some really great tutorials for the DJS on the Pioneer channel that go through every feature but I’ll probably be doing some more on the unit soon!
really superb video, really enjoyed thism thanks for sharing, im gonna have to get one of these now
Wow this is extremely helpful, thank you for breaking this down and relating it to Ableton!
@23:50 For batch normalization, I use Adobe Audition. It's super fast, super easy and there are lots of options for how to deal with the files: Filename Prefix and Postfix options, templates, etc. It costs $$ but I have access to it at home so I gave it a try. It's also my external editor via Ableton.
Yes I also have & use Audition but for the video I wanted to show a way to do it with free software so hopefully most can follow along :)
Dirty Secretz this solves your batch issue!!
ua-cam.com/video/prOqz4Qo2gU/v-deo.html
Awesome video dude- this is gonna help me get my tracks into my performances. BTW WaveLab Elements or Pro will do batch processing and make that normalization process take 5 minutes ;D
Brilliant!
I love it, greetings from Germany
Such a great guide thanks so much for this!
Hey I just figured something out! I’m order for the DJS 1000 to read your files: 1. They have to be rendered at . WAV 44100 and 24 bit depth. You have to also convert the midi to audio file and increase the gain. Once did this my files worked!!
I think you might be able to get away with 16 bit depth because I’m sure I’ve used a few like that but definitely 44.1khz, I’m sure there’s a guide in the manual for the optimal settings
Dirty Secretz yea I just made a tutorial on it. The TSP app is garbage. They need to make the machine have 8 bars and have chords in the scale mode.
🎉 thank you
Thanks head bunt out here. Don't understand how to get it to work on the DJS 1000 like usb format and how to load them so if I see it off ambleton, just a kick how would I get it onto my sampler?
Thanks
I know, I newer use it eather, but it looks like it could be quite useful in this case!
Hi DS, it may be a few years down the track.. but still a great video !.. Question .. how does one cut the loop spilling over -on a pattern change ( it plays out till end in new pattern) where I want a clean start on a pattern change .. hope u can help !
very nice tutorial, thanks :) I just missing @55:10 how the pad 14 that still ON muted and you playing with the 15? You set some volume or FX on the 14? thanks in advance :)))
Really very useful video, the best I found on UA-cam! I would ask you if the djs 1000 could play a normal full track? I imagine not couse the sample length is maximum 64 seconds, but would be great use it as cdj player also!
I'm afraid not, you can't play a full track in it. However I'll be doing a video soon on how to take a full track, prepare and play it on the DJS-1000 :)
Dirty Secretz ok thank you!!
Great stuff..you had a crack on tge Toraiz SP16? are they similar?
😊
Nice vid mate. How do u compare the DJS to the SP16? One more for DJing/remixing and the other for ‘live’? Kinda same thing tho...
Personally I'd say it's mostly about the form factors - I think the DJS fits better into a DJ booth being the shape & size that it is, sits perfectly next to a CDJ. In the studio though the SP-16 is smaller and just feels a little easier to use sitting down at a desk. Feature-wise it's a trade off - with the SP-16 you get the wonderful Dave Smith filters and song mode but with the DJS you get an easier to access sync-mode and quick use master FX. Looking at it like that for me it is clear which one was designed for which but that doesn't mean you can't flip that - you can use both for either. I'd probably just say it depends where you're going to use it the most - in a DJ booth or the studio.
Excellent, thank you!
just bought the djs 1000 and I have no idea what im doing haha I will figure it out ... eventually
amazing video. thank you for sharing your knowledge. is it possible to program the paterns jump. like 1going to 2 automatically and going back to 1 ...ect..?¿ i cant find the way to do it .¡ i need to do it. jaja. thank you for your time.
I don’t think there is a way to follow one pattern with another automatically, not like some other sequencers. I’m sure it’s something they could put in with firmware updates though!
@@DirtySecretz thank you for your answer...
This is really missing. We need it now ..lol. that would be the key to more programing ...witch we would have more freedom. Cheers. Take care.
Yes does seem like something they could have already put in there, I know people find it limiting at the moment but who knows what they’ll build into it in the future!
Sensational the video! One question I have ... Is there a website where we can buy projects in the DJS 1000 format?
Pioneer have a couple of packages/projects from artists available from their site for free but I don’t know if there’s anywhere you can buy them from. I’m working on a package at the moment but not sure how that’ll be distributed yet!
@@DirtySecretz Many thanks for the reply. I bought my DJS 1000 a short time ago, I'm still studying but I will focus on creating projects and a place for users to make exchanges and leave their experiences with DJS 1000.
@@DirtySecretz "...Pioneer have a couple of packages/projects from artists available from their site for free.." They must be very "hidden" because I couldn't find any projects in my searches on the site. Would it be possible to put a Link here please?
They’re actually on the Toraiz page as the packages are for both
www.pioneerdj.com/en-gb/landing/toraiz/in-action/
Amazing
wow finally a tutorial for something anyone that makes music in a daw and doesn´t want to perform using their laptop needs to face.....
thank you so much, theoretically you could also do this with the Pioneer Toraiz SP-16, right?
Yes, you can definitely do the same thing with the SP-16 although if you are playing with CDJs as well, I just find the syncing on the DJS-1000 works easier for me, seems to be more designed to fit in that layout (but that's just personal preference). I like the fact that there arn't any rules for the unit, you could just be muting/unmuting loops or you could go ahead and play the melody lines live - whichever you feel more comfortable with.
@@DirtySecretz thanks man
Hi, i wait 2 years to find out a solution for synchonize rekordbox (performance mode) with djs1000. Pioneer say, there is a solution - but there dont tell me (wtf bad support). Do you have a solution? You love djs-1000! Please help me, thx a lot
I’ll have a look into it!
Great vid man i've actually watched this a few times... quick question can you connect the djs 1000 to ableton and perform with ableton? and sync with ableton?
Well you can definitely midi sync the DJS via USB Midi and of course with DIN midi you can definitely control external synths so I'm guessing you could probably do the same with USB midi - funnily enough I do have a DJS/Midi based video planned so will try it out here soon!
@@DirtySecretz dope keep me posted PLEASE!!!!
What a sweet mustache.
I like the djs 1000 but I have the pioneer controller with the pads so I think it would be overkill for me to buy one...idk
When you create loops are the pre or post master
Hey this is an extremely helpful video, thank you!
I'm considering doing a sort of hybrid live/djing setup with djs controlling to play stems of my tracks etc. I got a few questions, would really appreciate if someone would help me with that!
1. Can you use the DJS to send midi sequences to hardware synths and feed the audio back into the DJS?
2. Can you use the DJS as a midi controller for ableton live during production? (Step sequencer, drum rack, transport would be awesome)
3. does the DJS have master effects (especially a limiter) to make the tracks a little louder and able to compete with mastered productions playing from cdjs?
thank you!
1) yes you can control other synths via midi, for example it works great for controlling the AS-1 however you only have one input so all synths need to go back into the DJS via that if you want use the FX in the unit.
2) also possible to control Ableton via DIN or USB midi, I’ve got another video where I’ve done that on my channel. Not sure on the transport controls though, possibly if the DJS is set to leader.
3) unfortunately the DJS doesn’t have a master limiter, I’ve always wished it had a compressor to glue the elements together but sadly not. On the SP-16 it does have the drive on the Dave Smith filters which can help with that but it didn’t make its way to the DJS.
@@DirtySecretz thanks a lot, great insights! not easy to decide what to use as the basis for my hybrid/live dj setup... not having a limiter is really a bummer, because I want to perform stems of my productions and play mastered tracks on cdjs as well. Anyway, I will definitely check out more of your videos :)
Great vidz ! I was all set to go for an Akai Force for live performance with pioneer setup until I saw your djs1000 vids. Have you ‘used the force’ yourself to play out live at all ?
For shorter sets (1hr or less) I don't tend to use it much as I usually have so much music I like to fit in but for longer sets I do like to jump on it more. For this summer I'm actually planning some fully live sets with dual DJS-1000s. I'll still have the CDJs there to play acapellas and some full tracks but most will come from the DJS. My main goal though is to still make it a good experience for the crowd, keeping it interesting for them. The Akai Force does look great and I imagine it would be brilliant in a live set but I can't imagine anything will be as tightly integrated with a Pioneer DJ setup than the DJS.
@@DirtySecretz yeah thats the thing isn't it the pro-link connectivity. I like the sound of your live sets with dual DJS-1000's (talk about juggling plates !), getting used to just one for me will be a steep enough learning curve. If only the DJS's could trigger videos clips, could get an Eclectic Method style set going on that'd be great for the crowd !
paul calver well the DJS does have midi out so you can use it as a midi controller but not directly from sounds you play (i.e. you can play a sample with a pad or use it as a midi out - not both at the same time). Like the idea of trying that though!
@@DirtySecretz after watching eclectic method studio vid, if the dis-1000 can trigger serato pro running mix emergency plugin it'd work niiiiice
Oops... looks like you've got dithering turned off in your export settings there champ lol Ableton runs at 32-bit floating point, so you should always have dithering turned on if you're exporting a file to an external source at 24 bit or lower my brother
I've never had a problem with having dithering turned off, I've had a few mastering engineers I work with tell me just to leave it off and I've honestly never had an issue with it.
@@DirtySecretz Well I hesitate to go into a long explanation cos I’ll sound like a right snob, was just offering some advice quite honestly cos I know myself how baffling the subject is, especially when every website seems to say something different!
Suffice to say though, that there are a few facts you need to take into account:
{1} Pioneer units like the DJS-1000 will apply dithering on the output signal regardless of what samples you play through it anyway.
{2} The artefacts of dithering are almost entirely imperceptible to the human ear because it works below the noise floor of human hearing. Therefore dithering multiple times is about as impossible to hear as it is just doing it once.
{3} If you don’t dither fixed point bit rates below 32 bit, then it’s a mathematical certainty that quantization errors will occur - 32 doesn’t divide by 24 into an integer value after all.
{4} Ableton processes ALL signals at 32 bit floating-point internally (or higher if you are using oversampling), so if you only did something like change the volume or apply a fade at the end of the clip, it’s been up-scaled to 32 bit and will now suffer quantization errors if exported at anything lower.
The reason mastering engineers might suggest not dithering would only logically be necessary if you were either supplying 24 bit stems for a mix engineer to put together for you, or sending them a pre-master file so they can apply dither themselves during the mastering process - although if it was me, I’d just send them a 32 bit pre-master and ignore the dithering issue entirely, but there you go.
Hence, since you’re just exporting a sample to be played back on the sampler unit and not sending the sample to be mastered before it gets played on the DJS-1000, the sampler is the end source and so the audio should be dithered.
This video on your DJS-1000 workflow might be the only truly useful video on the DJS-1000 on the entire internet (thus far). Please make more... PS. Your comments re: the DJS-TSP Project Creator were the most 'diplomatic' description I've ever heard. If Pioneer DJ won't support their own 'creator' software, they should at least open the DJS-1000 to some basic pulic development.
Thanks, I try to be honest when I do these videos! I think Pioneer have got quite a hard time to make the creator software something useable because you would be pretty much remaking the software on the unit but fingers crossed it'll get better!
@@DirtySecretz I've started creating a mockup in Max that (if I spend the time on it) would potentially automate some of the the workflow pre-DJS-1000 and leave one with a usb stick that took some of the busy work out of this. Will investigate. (I've tried to get some of the githib people who are working on Pro DJ Link 'enhancement' (kind of amazing stuff - certainly more interesting then the seemingly nothing Pioneer DJ dev seems to be doing for the djs-1000 - I wish they would prove me wrong) interested in DJS-1000 stuff. I'm not a programmer, unfortunately. Fingers crossed indeed
Ciao, non ho capito a cosa serve il tasto shift
Ableton has a normalize function on export
It does but I hate turning it on because I always forget to turn it back off for normal production use lol
I am about to buy one one them... 2 nd hand but no problem due to bad economy buy anything is difficult in my country... For me could be difficult to to use this monster =)
Hey fam can you use the DJS-1000 with the Pioneer XDJ RX-3? If not what unit from Pioneer would you recommend that's similar or better than the Pioneer XDJ RX-3 thanks in advance
You can use the DJS-1000 with pretty much any setup, it's just how well it integrates. The XDJ-RX3 has an AUX channel that you could run the DJS into however there's no EQ on that channel, just a trim. Also the XDJ-RX3 doesn't have Pro Link so you wouldn't be able to sync them. If you're looking for an all in one the XDJ-XZ is probably one of the best solutions for that as it has 4 full channels and Pro Link.
@Dirty Secretz thanks for the update really appreciate it 🙏
Everything needs to be at 41000 sample rate correct? I've been having issues with this
Yes, I believe so - there are quite strict sample specs but I usually go with 41khz 16-bit stereo
Nice Video!
Thanks!
what is the difference between the both machines? i prefer from form factor the sp-16. also as dj i do. the 1000s format is for me to "square" but how is it feature wise between this two?
And another Question: Why didn't you already normalized the samples during export from ableton? It has a normalize function build it.
SP-16 has the Dave Smith filters and setup best for live performance and studio work whereas the DJS is in the same form factor as a CDJ with the same sync controls. I honestly prefer the DJS, feels much better in the dj booth for me - always found the SP16 a pain when on a laptop stand. I forgot to normalise them coming out of Ableton, by default I don’t usually enable it as I don’t want it for production exports.
@@DirtySecretz ah i see.... well i have a realy nice laptop stand made of aluminum. so i can put the SP-16 behind the Mixer oder turntable. with a little stabilizer between the legs it stands rock solid and i can hammer on the pads :D
why not perform live with push2???? No transfer, no manipulations, no deconstruct, much easier. Is there something i did not catch?
Because the DJS-1000 fits so seemlessly into a set, syncing perfectly with the CDJs and allows me to turn up with just a USB stick and plug it into the venue's player. If I was doing a full live setup Ableton would definitely be at the core of it but for a DJ set I'd rather not introduce a laptop.
@@DirtySecretz OK, laptop, yes or no thats the point, i agree.- Tend to have a closer look to the djs-1000 beast. I like this packaging and having always the screen in front. Maybe i can catch a black friday deal which is comming soon :-)
how would you create 1 project that contains 6 scenes just with drum hits, one shots and loops at different bpms?
Generally you just have one set BPM per project, all samples and patterns you create fit to that BPM but you of course can adjust the BPM with the pitch slider on the hardware if you want to jump from one BPM to another.
@@DirtySecretz thank you so much! also i forgot to ask how do i change the samples from trigger to loop and the pad color on the project creator? dont have access to a djs or sp16
@@emilianoibarra3537 honestly not sure, I don’t use the software as I haven’t found it to work that well
@@DirtySecretz thanks for the answers :)
Hey I just got but when I try to load files in the DJS - TPS creator it glitches! weird. does this ever happen to you?
To be honest I never use the TPS software, I think it needs some major development to get it up to a decent standard but I think I just prefer using the actual unit itself. If you don't have a DJS-1000 or SP-16 then you're stuck with preparing in the software but I find it's easier and quicker just to chuck the samples in a folder on a USB and then just load them in on the unit itself.
Dirty Secretz yea that worked wayyy better. I have question. Does the scales have chords poly or is it only able to play melody mono?
Mac Joseph you can play external instruments of chords up to 4 keys using the settings on the pad but unfortunately you can’t with samples (unless they’ve updated it in firmware recently)
Thank you very much for the details!! Would you prepare in the same way for the Toraiz SP-16? Next question how you would prepare you own tracks todo live performance with one machine, DJS-1000 or SP-16?
Mit 136 Speichen um die Welt You would prepare the tracks in exactly same way, they share the same software and interface. I would use the DJS-1000 in DJ sets with the nexus range but SP-16 if it were standalone with other instruments. You can use both in the same ways but that would be my preference, they seem to work best like that.
@@DirtySecretz, thanks for that. I'm looking for one machine and that's could complicated. What i like between both the filter of the SP-16, sounds glorious.
Yes, the filter on the SP-16 is amazing (the drive is brilliant for saturating sounds for production) although I think the DJS-1000 is slightly better laid out for performing in my opinion. Both have strong points, it’s just a case of having some hands on time with them to decide which is best for you.
Thanks once again for you opinion. I will wait for new content from you ;-)
Why this hands dance?
If I already have Push 2 would It be a waste of money to buy a DJs 1000
They are very different products - the Push is designed to be used with Ableton as a performance device and can not be used standalone. The DJS-1000 is a standalone sampler primarily for use within a DJ set. You can of course use the Push in a DJ set with a bit of a complex setup but really it's designed for live performance & use in the studio. You could also use the DJS-1000 in the studio if you want (and many do) but really I would suggest there are other samplers that integrate better with DAWs. For me, I use the DJS-1000 really only in my DJ sets or live performance so if you feel like you're missing that then it may be good for you.
Dirty Secretz Thanks again for your quick reply. Keep up the good work. 🕺
Can you turn off quantize? Sounded like some of your finger drumming was off because it was trying to quantize it where you didnt want it to
Yes you can adjust the quantise timing or turn it off completely
hello, I see a XDJ-RX2 next to DJS, do you sync it with the sampler?
No, unfortunately the RX2 does not have the ability to sync with external equipment so you have to manually sync them. It does however have an AUX channel so you can run it in through there allowing for you to mix 2 tracks and sounds from the DJS so although you can't sync, you can at least still use it with the equipment.
@@DirtySecretz thank you x
I know this is an older video but I have a question can I sync two of these DJ s 1000 together
Or is that a stupid idea I have
Yes you can, it has the same sync feature that most of the Pioneer players have meaning you can sync up to 6 players together (I believe, maybe more). Whether that be 1 x DJS-1000 and 2 x CDJ-2000, 2 x DJS-1000 or any combination really. DJ Sneak recently performed a showcase set at ADE (Amsterdam Music Event Conference) on two DJS-1000s - amazing to see.
@@DirtySecretz he also just mix them togeather
I don't have Ableton can I use reasons
Yes, if you can export your stems from the DAW then you can do all that I've done in the video
Thank you for your reply
I'll have ago on reason as I already have that
I've been DJ ING over 33 years my stage name is DJ mono not stereo as I was born deaf most DJ give up when they go deaf
Well make no difference to me
Lot change over the years having to listen to one source of music in headphones and half cup it on my ear and hear outgoing music and tap my foot in beat those were the days you had to DJ
Mixing is 1000 times easier software dose it for you most DJ still can't mix and have two ears
Thanks...& what is the name of the song played at 1:08 till 1:16 in the video?
No problem! That track is from my new EP on Amplified Records and it's called "Just Feeling It" - out 12th April 2019