Defunctland: The Failure of Euro Disneyland
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I think the French might have forgiven everything wrong with Euro Disney if Michael Eisner had simply agreed never to try to speak French ever again.
Seriously! That was PAINFUL! :=)
What an ass! Needed to get that opening right.
I don't understand how his french was that bad. Its like he was reading the script for the first time.
@@jaymartin8273 Whoa...
Listen to his voice crack at 0:17.
Did Disney really think that banning wine from a theme park based in France was going to go over well?
In a park meant for children?
@@bigverybadtom people obviously aren’t meant to sell alcohol to minors. And if people have doubts they ask for your ID card.
Dining with wine is quite common, people are obviously not gonna appear chugging a bottle in front of children. That’d be weird.
So the parents would expect wine available for them in dinners and restaurants. As usual in other restaurants apart from fast food chains.
Dumb move. Europeans love their wine.
@@bigverybadtom they still have to cater to the parents who take and pay for their children to go. Plus wine is part of the European culture.
@@sarahhumphreys3980 Actually I read that wine has become less popular in Europe than it used to be, compared to beer. Also I assumed the idea is that having alcohol at the end of the day was the idea, not when you are out watching over children. In fact, it was in Europe that they came up with the concept of designated drivers.
There's something very fitting about Euro Disneyland's opening having been disrupted in part by a French railroad strike. _All_ significant historical events in western Europe have to be complicated by a French railroad strike. It's a rule.
Or ATC strike..
The french and industrial action go together like cheese and wine
@@TheGarfield0 except the cheese was out of stock, because industrial action
@@rin_etoware_2989 now I’m hungry.
@@rin_etoware_2989 and the wine was banned
"My only fear is that we're too successful" is the shareholder meeting equivalent of saying "my main weakness is that I work too hard."
Michael Scott ass thing to say
It’s basically like the “this ship is unsinkable!” Curse at this point 😂
8:20 reminds me of when walmart came to germany and tried to ban labor unions, employees dating, as well as implementing greeters and daily chants of 'Walmart!Walmart!" at morning meetings, only to be met with a very stern "we don't do that here" by germans.
THEY TRIED TO BAN UNIONS??
@@sambradley9091 this was a while ago, so I'm fuzzy on the details, but basically they tried the usual american model of preventing unions and firing people thought of unionizing, but germany already has a Big Union called Verdi. So there was no need for Walmart employees to start something new, Verdi came prepared and ready to go, with lawyers and labor-rights experts. And Walmart was apparently caught off guard by not being able to straight up lie or give empty promises to tgeir employees.
Especially the idea of having to chant anything in unison because somebody makes you do this is, to a German, egregious on another level. :o Also, they wanted to open on Sundays because thats what they did in the US, completely ignoring it's not only unusual in Germany, but legally banned. They thought German laws just would not apply to them.
German here, we had a walmart for about a year and then it closed again. Quality of sold stuff was bottom-tier, creepy greeting and annoying salesmen pestering you with "american customer service". And then we read about things like them banning employees from dating each other and having no Betriebsrat councils (despite these being mandated by law). And thus,since the prices were mostly the same anyway, we went back to shop where we did before.
also the creepy smile and the employees pestering you about whether we need "help", what's that about? I can buy milk without help, thanks. oO
@@minksnopes5551 You earn the biggest whoooosh of the day for that clanger, dude. What the hell did you think was meant by that comment?
Disney: "We uphold the individual freedoms and liberties of the American spirit!"
Also Disney: "NO AFROS OR ASYMMETRICAL HAIRSTYLES"
@Cris Craf "oh so scary and dangerous, an assymetrical bob 😱". Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?
They seemingly allowed cornrows. I think that’s a fair compromise, no?
@Cris Craf neither does sounding like an intolerant troll.
And god help you if you try any of that there “homosexual fast dancing” in the park!
@@DARTHNECRION not necessarily, some people are tender-headed and cornrows, whilst very pretty, would cause too much tension on the scalp. And they are not easy to do! Also if you want to proclaim freedom then you should put your money where your mouth is imo
the fact kevin made subtitles exclusively in french, and the fact I've seen no one comment on it, is probably a bigger injustice than Euro Disney ever was. Kevin is a comedic mastermind who can make the existance of normal, uncomedic captions hilarious
And was it him or someone submitted them, and he simply allowed them?
@@Big_Dai I mean maybe someone else submitted them, but there aren't any manually transcribed English subtitles like his other videos, which leads me to believe that whoever is behind the subtitles did that as a purposeful joke
Had not noticed that until I read your comment, agreed
When I was a boy, I and my family went to Euro Disneyland right after it opened. I was so excited by the slogan "Come and meet your favourite cartoon characters."
Well I went all over that park and I couldn't find Bugs Bunny anywhere!
That's hilarious. Now I'm imagining a Czech kid going and not finding Krteček anywhere!
The Great America theme park in Gurnee, Illinois features Bugs Bunny and other Warner Brothers characters.
@@bigverybadtom Thanks but I live in Britain so it's a little far for me.
Sounds like you would have loved Six Flags.
I went as well with my fam a long time ago. Okay, all I remember was I was terrified of even wanting to go near Winnie the Pooh do not ask me why lol
" Je dEcLaIrE EwrRo - dISni - ofFiCiaLmEn oEuVeErTtTtT"
I have never seen words from another language in the meme letter format. Good job
Gene Autry mEgggggCi mOnSiiiEuRrrrrrr
Why is that so accurate?
rest in pieces, vocal cords
It made me embarrassed to be an English-speaker and saddened to be a French-speaker.
“It would be like going to a production of Hamlet and everyone looking different than what you expected...”
You mean The Lion King?
Or indeed the Royal Shakespeare Company's almost all-black version they did a few years back.
...or "Hamilton".
In view of black people shoehorned into the Beast remake, this quote is just painful to read nowadays.
Lmao. First time I ever heard my grandmother say a curse word. We just knew it was going to have black characters. Sad but the ultimate troll. lol
@@benjaminbrainstem4738 what?
The way Eisner's voice cracks at 'EuroDisney' has something eerily foreboding, knowing now how much a stone it was around his neck.
that and the genuinely earsplitting (un)attempt at a french accent lol
@@EdJonesVideosit was so bad that I couldn’t even tell he was speaking French at first
Eisner isn’t a native French Speaker, or even someone who learned it as a second language. That voice crack was probably just because he was EXTREMELY unfluent in the language and trying to pronounce the words right. I honestly don’t think he knew it would be a disaster probably thinking “eh the park’s beautiful, there mad a little now but they will see.l
@@fawkewe It's definitely not only because he's not fluent. I'm adding it to my collection of people trying to yell in French and creating the most inhuman squawks.
As a European, there's only one thing I can say: No matter where they had build the park, any place would have been a better choice than France for so many reason.
do you think italy or spain would have been a better choice?
@@sambradley9091 I think Spain would have been a great choice. Better weather, less expensive, very popular with tourists already, more people speak the language. Same reasoning goes for Italy but I had preferred Spain as it is politically more stable than Italy.
I mean absolutely.. also when US ppl come do business here in Europe they keep forgetting that we have workers rights and such...
@@xcoder1122 I totally agree. As an Italian I would have also preferred Spain since south of Italy (which is the part of Italy with the best weather) has huge problems with transportation and reaching the park from major tourist cities would have been difficult.
@@xcoder1122 spain is way too hot, paris has better weather and easier to get to
Here's another problem: Europe HAS castles. Everywhere. There are so many of them that the general public response to some of them is, "oh yeah, that place. Eh." So while a European-style castle/palace would be very special in America (which has no European architecture older than about 300 years) and in Japan (which has a distinct architectural culture), it would just come across as an annoying parody of the landscape in Europe.
Edit: it's been three years. My perspective has grown and changed. Some people agree, some people disagree. Overall it's a fun conversation and nuanced in so many ways.
Avery Nelson Not sure the main draw of any Disney park is the large plastic castle, it's the rides and branding mostly. Also it's a fantasy castle for kids who want to enjoy a fantasy not necessarily an examination on architectural trends. Full respect to what you're putting down :)
I agree Cesar. I also once read somewhere that the Disneyland Paris castle is designed a bit more extreme in color and shapes since we Europeans are more used to seeing castles. In de the USA a more 'normal' castle is interesting enough for the average visitor. But in the end it's about storytelling, and that's interesting on any continent.
Agreed. A Wild West or Far East-themed Disneyland would have been far more successful. It probably would have been a better to put it in Southern France, not the chilly North.
There’s literally a whole actual castle like, three miles away from where I live. Me and my housemates all have free passes.
I'm French and live near and have been many times to EuroDisneyland Paris, and honestly you don't go "meh" on the Disneyland castle. First because we don't go "meh" on castles in general. I have family in the Loire region where are the most famous and beautiful Renaissance castles in the world and like except for people who live down by the castle, people from the region very often pay good money to visit them. They are unusual and grand for anyone really, yes maybe more someone who hasn't seen one ever, but most French people rarely see castles. Second, the Disneyland castle (is it Cinderella castle or something ?) doesn't really ressemble European castles and is totally a fantasy castle. So when you're in front of it, you don't ever think "well yeah... that just looks like some shitty replica of Chambord castle or Versailles or whatever" because it doesn't. Honestly I've visited many French castles and have been to EuroDisneyland many times and that thought had never ever crossed my mind so I think you might be reading into it a bit much.
“We didn’t come in and say okay, we’re going to put a baguette and beret on Mickey Mouse.”
*CUT TO*
I choked on my water. Dammit Kevin.
Kevin Perjurer? That can't be true.
We stand corrected. X'D
Holy crap, I laughed my ass off!
Euro Disney open for business eh? *puffs cigarette* Who are you to resist eh? *pans to empty parking lot* My last paycheque bounced...my children need wine!
He looks so cute though!
They made three big miscalculations with Eurodisney:
1. While Disney was common knowledge in Europe, Disney is based on original European fairy tales, and the Disney version was always somewhat seen as the Americanised, commercialised, dumbed down version of that European heritage. Especially on the continent this was true. So many were not really interested in and/or somewhat appalled at the blatant commercialism and attempt to sell us back our heritage. The fairy tales I grew up with were the original, way darker and somewhat scarier ones than the Disney version. And so Disney, especially Disneyland, even as a kid felt incredibly fake, censored and even childish.
2. Many European countries already had lively, vibrant, diverse and locally inspired cartoons, strips and even theme parks already in place. But this was especially true in France and its surrounding countries, where an extremely extensive comic strip industry already existed and still exists to this day. France already had Parc Asterix and others, the Dutch had the Efteling, the Germans phantasialand, and so on. Even little Belgium where I live, already had multiple quite good attraction parks like Walibi, Bobbejaanland, etc. and quite a lot of people loved these parks and grew up with them. So Disneyland often seemed very much like arrogant American imposters trying to sell the "fake" Americanised fairy tale. Disneyland seemed to think they were expanding into a vacuum, when they most definitely weren't, especially not in France or on the continent.
I often think Disneyland would have been far more successful in the UK, since the Brits have always been far closer to American culture than the continent.
3. And lastly, while in the USA a fairytale castle, fantasy scenery, the small town USA and other Disney style scenery might seem quant, in Europe it feels incredibly, massively fake. Every city or town in Europe has ancient buildings, churches, castles and so on. Every day you can walk through ACTUAL medieval or ancient scenery. I can literally walk past buildings 1000y old every day, and there's an actual original castle right in the city center you can see and visit. And this is true all over Europe. So this makes the Disney fake scenery look and feel EXTREMELY fake and makes it look and feel very much like a cheap kitchy imitation. Why on earth would you go there if it feels like a cheap knock off? Especially when there's other parks that are at least as good in their rides, often way cheaper, and don't feel as fake to a European?
Disneyland tried to copy and paste an American style park to Europe, but this was a flawed mindset from the start.
So basically Europe could smell the commercialism a mile away and found the smell an insulting parody of something familiar.
Its a bit too much for get the French excited about an American version of a German castle.
Living in northern Germany, visiting Disneyland never apealed to our family. The "Heide Park" is very close to our home, and there are also a lot of other Themeparks in Germany.
And families with little children rather visit LegoLand, either in Denmark or southern Germany, than travel all the way to France, also french people have a habit of only speaking french, and if you dont you have a hard time comunicating.
As someone living in the Netherlands, the one time I went to Disneyland Paris felt like an overly commercialized version of the Efteling. Not to mention far more expensive and a lot more time wasted on walking. I think I went on 4 rides that day, whereas I've reached 10 in the Efteling. Not to mention the Efteling existed before Disneyland.
Hyperspace mountain was fun though :)
@@RFEM520 haha perfect TLDR
I always thought Eurodisney was a weird idea. In addition to the castle, most of Disney’s animated movies, which are the themes for the Disneyland rides, are based on European fairy tales. So Disney is trying to sell back to Europeans a shallow, cartoon version of their own culture, interpreted by Americans. Who thought that would be a winner?
And for fairy tales, there's better parks, more in line with European cultures. For example, Efteling in the Netherlands.
To be fair they also tried to sell "tacos" in Mexico and "coffee" in Australia
Soooo true!
To be fair, as a European kid who visited the place for her 4th grade graduation trip, my peers and myself grew up with Disney. To this day, when I think of "Snow White", it's the Disney cartoon version that comes to mind. The European fairy tale, as such, was never part of my lived culture and that went for every single kid I knew.
What made this place very unsavory, at least in Portugal, was the way in which two Portuguese children were kidnapped there and NEVER found. Which was why my mother watched me as a hawk throughout the whole time I was there.
This was a long, long time ago but Portuguese visitors plummeted for quite a while. I'm sure it recovered, eventually, and I have no idea if this received international attention but I vividly remember how the whole country was horrified.
This was how the kidnapping happened: Parents with two children take one of them to see Mickey only for the child to disappear. Immediately terrified, they sought help from the police who offered to look after the other child while starting searches for the missing one.
Turns out...Mickey had been a kidnapper, was not even a Disney employee but had gotten the costume somehow. And the policeman? Was not real either but another kidnapper.
Both children were kidnapped and were never heard from again, to this day and this happened in the 90's...so you can imagine Portuguese parents were very, very wary of visiting the place.
Europeans are more familiar with the Disney version of most of these fairy tales than their own old fables. Or did you seriously think Disney animation movies weren't big in Europe?
"And they wanted not a Mickey with slanted eyes, but a mouse that roared American"
That line did not age well lol
I actually cringed at that line.
doesn't help that calling asians mice/rats is incredibly racist
I heard that and vocally was like "hohohoOoolySHIT!"
It was a different time.
Yeah that was actually fucked up.
long ago, the 3 disney parks lived together in harmony. then, everything changed when Michael Eisner attacked.
I spat my yogurt reading this comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And everything turned to ruin when Iger came
Peruvian Mapping aka Thanos in PinkFace and a suit
HA!
@@PeruvianPotato Let's get him!!
I don't think Disney realized that we view them differently over here in Europe. Most people here see Disneyland as a park based on the films, not a separate part of the Disney empire as it seems it's viewed in the States. That's why we find stuff like Frontierland and the EPCOT stuff a bit weird as it's not linked to films, and if it is, it's stuff like 20,000 Leagues, live action stuff that pop culture didn't pick up. That's what pretty much everyone I've ever met thinks anyway.
That’s my impression as well and ultimately might have contributed to the failure of the Paris park. Most european parks already feature their own version of Pirates, Hounted Mansion or Space Mountain. Some of the more original attractions are oftentimes better than the Disney rides in Paris. The only thing that would draw people to the park is stuff based on IPs. However those are surprisingly rare in Paris. The whole thing seems like it lacked serious market research.
@@ft4709 I mean, it did well in the end. People love it now, but bloody hell it came close to just collapsing from the start. I never really knew.
as a 19yo french girl, i had never heard of all of that... but knowing my people it totally make sense that they were angry about that park opening, since we pretty much hate on anything that has to do with americans. now, despite living in lyon and not near paris at all, i don't think i know anyone my age that has never been to disneyland. it's probably never as packed as the one in the us tho, but i had a great experience when i went 10 years ago, and i've never heard any people complaining about their experience in that park. the public opinion definitely changed over the years!
As someone who've been to the park in the early 2000s, I absolutely hated it because I could have been doing something else entirely, like reading a book. Not to mention me having some sort of vomiting issue with carousels and roller coasters... I enjoyed the park (somewhat), but not the attractions.
I think a big part of the initial hatred for it is because France, and I mean no offence when I say this, can be very defensive about their culture and a bit snobby about it at times
The idea that having a Disney theme park in the country would somehow dilute the culture of everything around it is ridiculous
Well, the rest of Europe pretty much hates on everything French. Which is understandable since both the Americans and French can be extremely annoying.
Go and walk around the centre of Paris...it's full of McDonald's and Starbucks same as the rest of the world. Go to the cinema...the same Hollywood movies as everywhere else. Fucking get over yourselves, the French, it's embarrassing 🤦🏻♀️
As a French, no, we dont hate american or american stuff, this is bullshit. Friendly banters and sometimes difficulty to understand Us culture and mindset, but absolutely no hatred (except for a very small retarded far left minority)
Say you're a douchebag without *saying* you're a douchebag: "My biggest fear is that we will be... *too* successful"
That's like the interviewee of a job interview saying "My biggest weakness is that I'm a perfectionist"
@@captaincrispy2184 except being a perfectionist can be an actual flaw, this is somehow worse.
Hearing that all I could think was "Remember the guy that said, he's the reason this failed"
People say sometimes I am a perfectionist, and I can confirm is some kind o flaw sometimes. You lose A LOT of time for the small details nobody observe. So... yes, being a perfectionist can be an actual flaw... sometimes. :)
"Sometimes my genius... it's almost frightening"
“We didn’t come in and say okay, we’re going to put a beret and a Baguette on Mickey Mouse.”
*Insert Mickey Mouse With Beret And A Baguette*
You made me like the video
But how else will we possibly know it's French?:)
He had no baguette
Bruh, even the location seems kinda sus. They were going to build on 4400 acres of farmland, meaning they'd be displacing local farmers to build their park. Seems kinda shitty
I know Eisner has been in the shops in the France pavilion at Epcot and seen the “French” Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, and Donald plushies and souvenirs. I’ve seen him there.
The beret, striped shirt, and baguette is exactly what they do for those plushes.
@@elguero9279 Fake Francia!
I think its very smart to create a "retro" style Future/Tomorrow/Discoveryland to keep it from becoming outdated so fast like in the original park.
My dad still has a t shirt from Euro Disney, refuses to let it get worn out because he can't replace it. This was super interesting as someone who's only grown up knowing Disneyland Paris and thinking it was a success
Where was it?
Europeans: **sullenly** "Euro" is associated with business, currency, and commerce.
Disney: **nodding enthusiastically** Yes, and?
Euro Disney was planned before that
Jack McHenry
The European Union and most of the associated terms and imagery of the Eurozone were around long before EuroDisney.
The negotiations and treaties were ongoing for decades beforehand and were a constant presence in the news cycle throughout Europe and, honestly, most of the world. Pretty much since the end of World War 2, “Euro” has been associated with business, diplomacy and commerce, long before the Euro currency. It accelerated in the 80’s and started to really kick into gear after the fall of the Berlin Wall.
Europeans: "Euro" is associated with business, currency, and commerce.
Disney: Yeah! The good things in life, real magic!
He really just outed Disney’s entire agenda to Europe like that
@@AC-th4ci Points for being honest about it
the biggest failure of euro disney was michael eisner's french pronunciation
Oui c’est terrible
@@thatrandomguyontheinternet2477 Ah the french and their narcissism
I thought "Is that an American with horrible French or a Frenchman throwing away every aspect of his language for the Americans?"
@@ericvauwee4923 Totalement
@@ericvauwee4923 jpp les americain qui croivent etre mieux que tout le monde c pas mieux nn plus
"ok we're NOT gonna put a beret and a baguette on Mickey Mouse" *proceeds to do just that*
There is an old Mickey Mouse comic where he and Goofy join the French Foreign Legion.
As a European who has been to Paris multiple times and never went to Disneyland Paris, I think the problem is that we have sooo many other attractions that going to such a theme park seems like a waste of time.
Presumably you don't bring small children with you.
For many families, a waste of money. EuroDisneyland opened before the EuroZone and the Schengen zone really became a reality. Travel in Europe, despite the smaller distances, wasn't easier than in the US. And if you did invest time and money into travelling into a different country, you wanted to see the country in question, not Disneyland.
Plus the fact is, vice versa, the smaller distances make it easier to see REAL sights. To actually go to the Alps, for example. To go see a real castle. Disneyland's appeal therefore, if you're not a hardboiled Disney fan, lies mainly in having rides, and there are other places that have rides.
Basically, I think, based on this video and based on what I vaguely remember from the 90s in Czechia, they probably should have leaned a lot more heavily on the Jules Verne theming right from the start - that does sound like a unique and fun thing a lot of people in Europe might be intrigued by. I would have loved that, and more than that, I think even my father would have potentially loved that. But no, it had to be Disney.
I spent a childhood running around castle ramparts, and up and down mountains. You can absolutely see the historical and unique parts of a country with children.
@@bigverybadtom i went to paris as a young child (i was about 9) and i still chose to visit the louvre over disneyland lol
@@tallemajas The irony being that the Louvre is even more crowded than Disneyland. How were you able to see anything?
"We will take advantage of and have respect for the French culture"
*bans wine
But wine is the biggest part of french culture
Karen wants to speak to the manager.
To quote a French Canadian: "How could the French not drink wine! Travesti!"
Seriously I'm pretty sure wine counts as a necessary food group to the French.
@@switchplayer1016 it was before the sewage systems XD
My Dad took my little brother and I to Euro Disney when we were kids. I think I was 8 and my little brother was 5? It rained for the entire trip... One of my very best memories ever was riding Big Thunder Mountain five times in a row and getting absolutely drenched and then going back to the Western themed hotel and eating junk food for dinner while Dad dried our shoes off on the radiator. Thanks Dad. Love you forever.
Something about Eisner’s poor French and the way his voice broke on the word “Disney” always cracks me up.
What really saved it was the fact that they started selling alchohol. They really offended the French and the whole of Europe in general by banning alchohol.
Also wtf are you supposed to do as a parent there
@@bcc5701 drink
Could you imagine the reaction if some foreign corporation wanted to open a huge park in the U.S. and banned English at meetings?
Yes, there wouldn't be any reaction at all. A lot of things in the USA are owned by foreign corporations.
As long as it's hebrew it should be fine.
@@bigverybadtom like what
@@GimJim ok anti semite
@@redvelvetunderground Well, English is so commonplace I would be surprised if it were. But if everybody speaks, say, Chinese, they might do that to foil people who might be listening in.
"Cultural Chernobyl"
Damn, 80s frenchies be savage
80s frenchies were just delusional egocentrical jerks just like today.
@@VitalMusic217 is right, and I'm french
@@flavienmarcelli1558 Everyone hates their own the most tbh.
@@panthekirb7561 nah I'm Italian and I hate the French the most. It's natural
@@panthekirb7561 I‘m Swiss and I also hate the French the most
"It would be like going to see a production of 'Hamlet' in which everyone looked different than you expected. Would you ever go again?" made me sputter at the screen. Hoo boy.
The failure of Euro Disney is what I call “the perfect example of how to NOT build a theme park in Paris”. After that, we got Club Disney, DisneyQuest, AND Hong Kong Disney, which proves that nobody from Disney (like Eisner) learned anything from the opening of Euro Disneyland.
Funny, it seems to still be going on.
That Hamlet comparison falls apart when you remember that Disney made Hamlet with Lions
That's probably where they got the idea from lmao
Technically, the one that did it was Osamu Tezuka with Jungle Taitei (a.k.a. Kimba the White Lion), which was actually heavy inspiration for Disney's eternal classic.
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The Hamlet comparison doesn't make any sense in the first place. It's Shakespeare, it's been interpreted and adapted in every way under the sun! There is no canon for how the characters should look because it's a piece of text. That statement makes me way too angry.
I mean how was Disney to predict that? No one has ever adapted Shakespeare in a different way than the original... .....right?
*mickey with slanted eyes* WOAH THERE LADY
I know right
*OOF*
If there is a Mickey with slanted eyes,that would be ironic af,since Disney used to produce morale boosting Anti-Imperials cartoon during WW2
I actually said yikes out loud after I heard that
I did a double take because at first I assumed I had misheard. Played it again. Nope, just racist.
At 5:08 if you don't wanna scroll... Eeeesh 😲
I’ve always thought you calling it euro disney was really weird. I have *never* heard that name before until i found this channel. Here in the netherlands, and persumably in most regions, it’s called Disneyland Paris.
It is now, but that was a rebrand, I remember the old adverts on Disney VHSes for it and it was always ‘EuroDisney resort’ and then they changed it later on (which is so much better).
That's the current name, back when it opened it was announced as EuroDisney, of course after all the dissaster it was rebranded Disneyland Paris
As a small kid from Germany in den 90's it was called EuroDisneyland, but even the most people said "Disneyland Paris" years before the rebranding.
As awful as Eisner’s attempt at French was in that ribbon cutting, you have to admit, that whole orchestra swelling and Mickey’s entrance from the castle was genuinely awesome.
Very interesting.
Funny how Disney totally missed the difference in culture, assuming France was as purely capitalist as the US. The French expect a lot more in terms of workers rights and freedoms and hold more power than in the US, no wonder so many of them left
They assumed that the success of Tokyo Disney would translate. However, ToDis followed the same formula as another smash hit of American culture export used, namely McDonald's(foreign brand, local control).
Yeah, according to documentaries I’ve seen one of the main reasons the US intervened in Vietnam was because France threatened without their colonies they would have to join the communists.
not to mention their bureaucracy is nightmarish.
I mean it doesn't help that the centrepiece is a fake castle, in France, where every village has a real castle
French are notoriously lazy, they saw a big American company and thought they could squeeze em but Disney said no to them.
I remember this from a British pov. When Disney first announced they were looking at building a park in Europe, everyone, and I mean everyone, assumed it would be built in the South of Spain. Great year round weather. A huge existing tourist base, from France, Germany, UK, Ireland and Scandanavia. Comparatively low wages. When they announced Paris, no one could believe it. They have the same weather as London, wet, grey and chilly except for the middle of summer! I just assumed there'd been some backhanders from the French government, but if even they weren't keen, I don't know what caused this decision.
Greece probably would have been a good choice for the same reasons. Disney punted hard when they picked Paris.
Paris doesn't have the same weather as London. It has a pretty good climate which is one reason why this place was chosen to be the capital. But not as sunny as the south, of course.
Paris has more rain days than London
Jalant Lad It depends on the source and even if it's true that doesn't mean it has worse weather. Equatorial countries have way more rain than London and Paris, now does that make you believe they are grey and chilly places?
I know what I'm talking about, I've lived in French Guiana (equatorial colony), Paris, and now I live in Lille which has a similar climate to London.
Here the weather is always shifting, the air humid and windy. It's often misty and drizzly. Similar to you, am I wrong?
Meanwhile in Paris the weather is more stable. The air is drier with gentle breezes. So at the same temperature it doesn't feel as cold. The humidity and wind play a big role in making you feel cold, that wet seeping cold that makes bones ache.
On rainy days, rather than drizzling you'll tend to have proper showers and it's done.
The rain peak is in the summer, which makes it welcome to cool the city down.
And it's only logical, Paris is further south and inland. So sunnier, hotter, and more of a continental climate.
Meanwhile us near the Channel get a colder, oceanic climate.
I share your pain with the "shitty weather" but let's not bullshit ourselves with the idea that Paris has it just as bad. It simply doesn't.
I was to young to recognize its start, but I remember the news announcement when it opened. I though, why the hell France? As a German, all the trouble EuroDisney faced according to the video, is what I know about France today. That's just how these people are wired.
That intro was _priceless._
"I'm sure it will be a great success."
*[Episode Six: The Failure of Euro Disney]*
It’s weird to me to think of Disney Land Paris as a failure as when I was a kid that was where everyone at school went on holiday and I would have killed to go there
This was so interesting. As someone from the UK I always thought it was successful because every kid I knew went. It was the only affordable way for families to take their kids to disneyland, they just can't afford the thousands to go to and stay in America. I had no idea it had such a rocky start and all the history behind it.
Same, in Spain, almost every middle class kid went to Disneyland Paris at least once in their life as a Christmas or birthday present (not me, though I've tried a lot of cool theme parks in Spain)
@@Dyno_98 have you been to porta Ventura ? (Think that's what it's calles) I loved it
@Dyno I lived in the Netherlands and only the rich kids went there. Many people do go once though, but some do as adults only.
Maybe it is because of Efteling? Which is cheaper and closer and seen as about as good?
@@MissMoontree maybe difference in distance/travel too?
@@bananabrain2996 Ah yes. About three times. Two as final school trips.
It is wonderfully decorated and themed. I always marvel at the set designs.
You know it's a good Defunctland if Eisner is the first thing you see in the video
Get over yourself.
Pretty much
Not to say that anything he did was good or bad, but a lot of stuff has since been closed.
Michael Eisner is my favorite Disney CEO honestly, his failures are hilarious and strangely humanizing
I want someone like him as the next CEO after Iger.
Lol, I like how many people want somebody like Eisner back now because Iger fucked up Disney so much
When I went to stay with French friends in Beauvais, they took us to Parc Astérix, and not Euro Disney. I also went to Futuroscope once, on a school trip. So I've been to more theme parks in France than I have in my native uk, but I still haven't been to Euro Disney.
Good.
I have been there, it's a good theme park don't get me wrong, but it's not where my priorities would be if I had to chose a theme park to go. One that I'd really like to do based on everything I've heard and seen would be the Puy du Fou, it's basically a pretty authentic medieval fair with reenactments etc and it sounds absolutely dope
@@sephikong8323 Puy du Fou is gorgeous but you gotta now that it is led by nationalists and the vision of history in the parc is very biaised and propagandish. I was very surprised when I went there and saw that.
man parc Astérix was the shit, loved that place especially le tonnerre de zeus ride!! i remember it very fondly!
Well, they probably thought that taking you to Euro Disney would be like taking you to a McDonald's restaurant.
I feel Spain might have been better for a location. It's already the place many Europeans go for vacation & retirement ala Florida, it's got a more suitable overall climate somewhat similar to some of the locations of Disney in America, some of the cultural things mentioned aren't as pertinent or as hot button in Spain as in France, Spanish is spoken by way more people globally than French so that might be a positive too (say you are a Latine tourist for example), etc etc. Someone could probably pin point what area / city would be best too, but Spain is overall a way better location IMHO. Alas.
I believe it was supposed to be in estepona spain or something like that
let's bring 'cultural chernobyl' back into the lexicon
garignacful You’re cawedtuk
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That's cawkful
Apparently Euro Disney was claimed as a cultural Chernobyl of Idiotic folklore. I mean, the Disney fairy tales and Sci-fi Tomorrowland WAS based on European folklore, so I don't know what those critics were saying.
@@KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices based on it...
Okay but can we talk about how Eisner’s French pronunciation in the intro was so bad sksksksk
is wad a wery intrasting afair and i'm sure it wad a grat sucksess.
*That voice crack though!!*
et maintenant je declaire ewro dISni officialmen oever
@@intothemagic LOL, he sounds drunk af.
@@NelIglesiasPerez Eh muntenant zhe declare Evrodizni offisyalmon *OOVER!*
Calling it Euro Disneyland was probably the worst of these ideas because the euro is the currency used in Europe, it's like calling the American Disneyland "Dollar Disneyland"
Which is honestly Disney summed up in 2 words
Euro Disney actually predates the name of the currency by 3 years. The name Euro was adopted in 1995 and it'd still take a few years before the Euro was actually adopted as currency.
But... but Eurovision!!! Surely the meaning of that is more exciting than just "Dollar Vision Song Contest"? Or is Eurovision popular DESPITE its name?
@@Cobbledstories I think with Eurovision, the connection to the currency A) is not as strong as it is a different word and B) it has been around forever, long long before the Euro was ever a thing. Also, at least in Germany, Eurovision is almost always pronounced either french or english, whereas "Euro Disneyland" on a sign would just be pronounced the same as the regional version of the currency, and that makes me kinda think of a Dollarstore (Ein-Euro_Laden)Version of Disneyland.
Any entertainment venture does it for fun and not to make money?
I heard they had to shut the place down when local health inspectors found a rodent infestation problem, apparently the locals reported seeing a 2 metre tall mouse !
This comment is hilarious
calling it "euro disney" is basically saying "dollar disney"
No, the Euro became a thing years later.
@@AmeAnimation "Euro" has always been symbolic for money and commerce. So even though the Euro did not become a currency until after DLP opened, the word "Euro" has been in use before then.
@@dynasty0019 I think he was talking about the currency when he mentioned "euro disney" sounding like "dollar disney".
Perfect fit.
@@AmeAnimation there was already talk of a "euro" currency in the 80's. The treaty that eventually officially created it was signed in 1992
I love how Eisner is basically that shit kid in class you don't want leading the project because you know as soon as he touches it it's gonna dissolve into ash and dust.
hold this l
Eisner is part of that trip Walt warned us about.
His almost deliberately terrible french accent gave me diarrhoea as well.
I hate him so much for being a retired executive I've never met. It's almost scary to me how I hate him. He certainly scares me.
Eisner is like that "speshul kid" in class, who was often seen eating worms during recess.
"the french employees of the railroads were on strike" as a french i should tell you they are on strike all the time
The main energy source used in Jules Verne’s books is actually electricity! It was seen as the energy of the future back then. And well, he wasn’t wrong
I think the 1950s retro-futurism of Tomorrowland actually works in its favor
yeah, unfortunately they're obsessed with the original idea of tomorrowland being a 'realistic' future rather than a fantastical one
Yeah, call it "atomicland" or something.
i have never studied french and don't know a lick of it beyond "bonjour" and "baguette", and i can confidently say that big mike's french was of a failing grade there
Hahaha you’re not wrong xD He wasn’t horrible but it took me a few seconds to realize that he was talking in French.
I’m French.
Ruth Wilson Sounds like me speaking Spanish. And I’m a beginner, basically.
Soooo...why did Eisner not get whoever was in charge of Disney’s French distribution to do the opening ceremony?
Ruth Wilson he was worse than I was during french classes in high school 😂
Because he just HAD to do it. although to be fair, he did do the opening ceremony for all the other parks he opened
I know three phrases in French. "Comment allez-vous?" "Omelette du fromage" and "Qui a coupe le fromage." Only one of these phrases are actually of any use. The other two are complete non-sequiters.
Eurodisney's status as an abject failure has always fascinated me. As a English kid who was born in the nineties, Disneyland Paris, EuroDisneyland's rebranding, was always the most famous of the Disneylands. Admittedly, this was probably because it was the easiest one to get to and thus the one that most of us had visited, and we weren't too concerned with the complaints of the locals because, well, we visited it as tourists. But it's wild to me that the Disney park which is by far the most beloved and iconic in the UK is also the one wildly considered a failure by everyone else.
All I can say is when I went to Disneyland Paris as a 5 year old Scottish kid I had the best time of my life. I can barely remember it now but I remember how magical the whole thing felt and how happy I felt.
Jules Verne's beard does not comply with Disney guidelines
True hehe but not anymore, now french cast members are allowed beards and mustaches as long as it's well groomed of course : )
Neither does Matthew Kelly's hair! 14:56 ;)
EuroDisney Spokesperson: It would be like going to see a production of Hamlet in which everyone looked different
Lion King: *nervous laughter*
Despite it was a failure at the beginning, they really did a great job with this park, mostly with the creativity they put it in, it's a really different one, calm like they have said than the other Americans and Japanese park. And the Jules Vernes inspiration was really the best thing. I'm just pretty sadden that today they are just shitting on Discoveryland to turn it just like a star wars land, like bruh, Space Moutain was wonderful and they turned it into a Star Wars attraction, no thanks. I wish we could have back all this magic from Discoveryland at least.
+Rukaluki
That's why the Title of this Video confused me. I was born 1986 so in 1992 when it opened all every Kid and Parents & TV talked about for a Weekend Trip was to go to Disneyland Paris and a few Years later when Space Mountain became a thing and heavily advertised on Germany TV and how it's the most amazing experience ever and it was.
So i feel like Disneyland Paris was insanely popular and on the Bucket List of everyone at least in Germany with Space Mountain especially.
Now that i watched the Video and he mentions Space Mountain at the end and leaves an open ending i feel there should be a part 2 talking about how Space Mountain was what made Disneyland Paris a Hit and popular.
So the Title is a bit misleading as it wasn't a Failure in the end, only when it opened.
That said, the title made me click the Video because i wondered what the hell was a failure about it haha
@@chartreux1532 he already did make a video on the space mountain coaster at disneyland paris, if you're referring to the jules verne inspired one! however, being a failure doesn't necessarily mean everyone hates it. being a failure primarily means being a financial disaster, and even if you have some diehard fans and good advertising, that doesn't mean you'll make ends meet and succeed in projected goals for a massive project like this. euro disney basically landed disney in some not insignificant debt for a VERY long time, debt that I think they only finally paid off recently just as the park continues to perform below other parks. it's not a matter of popular, but popular enough to pay off the extensive costs and labor going into opening such a massive park. maybe it's no longer a failure in terms of how the public receives it, but it basically is a financial failure that took ages to recover from.
I feel bad for the engineers & designers who pour their passion into these things.
I feel the contract with Disney will be a great success.
*It's always sunny theme starts*
The gang almost bankrupt Disney
NateTheNerdy I would love to see Frank and the gang get in and out of that one. Lol.
Maybe they do it by trying to rebuild Frank's Fluids. Lol
EuroDisney was bad and netted huge losses, but it sure as shit didnt come close to BANKRUPTING them! This is a multinational mega-conglomorate that is a God of the corporate world. It owns countless numbers of other companies and is one of the 6 corporations that together own nearly 100% of ALL media outlets in the WORLD (that covers the fields of movies, TV, video games, comics, magazines, books, newspapers, TV channels, news outlets, radio stations record companies, and more). Disney in 2017 alone made around $10 BILLION in net profit and currently, when you tally up the thousands of things that fall under the enormous Disney umbrella, the corporation has a net worth of around $88 BILLION dollars. That's more than the GDP of pretty much any Eastern European, African, Middle Eastern, Southeast Asian, Island, and Central/South American country!
A theme park in France has no chance of ever being disastrous enough to bankrupt a corporation like that, no matter how badly it faceplanted.
@@dildonius Dude, your talking about modern Disney so all that info you were ranting with don't mean a damn thing. Disney is almost a century old and has definitely had it's far share of nasty financial situations. The mid-late 70s and the 80s was definitely one of their lowest points and the colossal failure of Euro Disney played a huge part in that along with a string of disappointing box office returns. Nothing was going right for Disney back than.
@@kevinbell5674bro, Disney was very much everything I described in 1992, when Euro Disney opened. Again, one measly theme park was never gonna completely BANKRUPT a multibillion dollar multinational conglomorate.
Jesus that’s some rough voice crack Eisner
If you go to the episode on Disney Hong Kong he tries Cantonese...
His accent was shocking.
You can see the guy on the right trying so hard not to laugh as soon as he started speaking.
Time code that shit
Sounded like the krustyburger employee 😂
One detail : politically it is even a bigger mess. When the decision was made in 1985, the left was in power. But in 1986, the right, led by Chirac (the guy you see welcoming Eisner, he was previously Paris Mayor), won the Parlement elections and Chirac became Prime Minister and was preparing for the 1988 Presidential election to defeat President Mitterrand (left party). So when you see him welcome Eisner in 1987 he is basically in campaign and tries to show he brings foreign investissements. So basically, Disney was in the middle of a political struggle (btw, Chirac Lost in 1988 but became president in 1995).
5:00 I’m horrified that they said, “a Mickey with slanted eyes,” on the news 🤢
Dude I almost spat out my drink in shock. But my mom who was my age around that time. can still be casually racist. So I shouldn’t be as surprised
“When I think of Jules Verne, I think of this...”
*Guitar riff plays. Male dancer pop and locks*
To be fair, he has sicc beats
Is that an European thing? Cause I never read the book? 🤔
and jam and break
One problem, they didn't ask France.
Pretty much sums up everything that went wrong.
One problem, the French.
First they hate it. Then they want to bomb it. Then they go on strike about it. Then they boycott it. Then they make fun of it. Then they accept it. Then they cherish it.
The Eiffel Tower, Le Centre Pompidou, I.M. Pei's pyramid in the Louvre. "McDo." Disneyland Paris. Pretty much anything in France.
@@juliepigois3330 to be honest some frenches doesn't seem to have accepted Disneyland yet, especially when you talk about its future expansion...
@@juliepigois3330 No one "cherishes" this park. This piece of trash tourist trap cost huge amounts of money to the French state and basically denies our culture. this shit will eventually disappear.
OLVR THR Wouldn’t it be more costly to shutter?
@@juliepigois3330 Can't wait for the time when they cherish it.
5:14 old theme park stuff gives me nostalgia for experiences I never had until I remember the disgustingly casual racism of America.
Je ne sais pas qui a contribué à faire les sous-titres en français mais un grand merci à lui/elle 😁 !
(Ils sont aussi magiques que le reportage - le "pour changer" sur la SNCF et le "ils disent leurs noms mais j'ai pas compris" - m'ont envoyé autant de rêves qu'une journée à Disneyland)
I don't know who did the French transcription (subtitles) but it made my day ! thanks a lot 😅
The big tragedy for me is how the park was so beautiful but so much went wrong because of over-confident, out-of-touch executives.
Americans
@@jgdooley2003 fair
disney in a nutshell nowadays
Played the opening clip of Michael Eisner for a French Professor. She just sighed, rolled her eyes, and left the room.
Your service will not be forgotten vaillant soldier
Ah gees lol
Why they thought calling it "Dollar Disney" was a good idea is beyond me.
The European Union and the Euro as currency were not a thing yet. The currency of France at the time was the Franc. The name "Euro" for the currency was proposed 3 years after Euro Disney opened...
As a Dutchman born in the 2000's, Euro Disney holds alot of nostalgic value, and i love going there
"We are going to respect French culture" --> Only allow certain hair styles, in direct opposition of French culture and law.
Meaning they're only going to respect the parts that don't contradict the internal corporate culture or the overriding American culture that created it.
Which makes it even more ironic, since European cultures (mostly) created American culture.
And some of thise hairstyles deemed unacceptable seemed pretty ok to me. Like one was a black guy with a moderate fro.
French culture was the problem, ultimately. They'd have been far better off to build it on the Mediterranean coast of Spain. It's a major vacation spot for much of Western Europe, has a great climate year round, and is actually friendly towards tourists- especially English speakers and their businesses. Heck, they could've built a port Disney there as a literal cruise ship port.
But nope, they decided to build an American theme park next to Paris.
@Zack Yezek
Exactly and it seams many people think same thing. Simple fact is that decedents in Disney didn't make proper research. Franach was one of worst picks possible.
As a dutch man when I was like 8 years old I went with my family to Disneyland Paris, the one thing that dissapointed me the most was that EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING was in French, "like yeah no wonder it is in Paris duh", but as we went on vacation in France almost every summer we have seen the other theme parks in France as well and even those had atleast some english and hell even had some things written in Dutch as well, sometimes even had shows not only spoken in french but spoken in english as well.
Hey defuctland
I knotest that in the middle of the video the audio gets out of sync. can you please fix it
MY CHILDREN NEED WINE
MrEDK1985 My paycheck bounce my children need wine😂😂
My choldren make me drink wine
Walt Disney hated jews. French people hate jews. That was really the connection to be made. Not some silly rides.
Scott Humphreys but that wine tho... our children crave it
Scott Humphreys That is a myth created and spread by communists who disagreed with his business style. The unionists who fomented the animator’s strike.
5:08; ".....and they wanted not a Mouse with slanted eyes, but a Mouse that roared American."
why the fuck isn't this higher up, fucking gold lmao
Bruh wwaaahhhh
Personally, I wanted to see a mouse in a ninja getup, wielding a katana.
Charming passive aggressive as always
TheBestComicKing I would love to see a Weabooland tbh
watching this video is like seeing all the red flags of your best friend's partner and knowing damn well they'll *not* last long but your friend is wearing pink colored glasses and everytime you try to tell them they say not to worry
A slight correction: "Steampunk" is a sci-fi genre focused on exploring the idea of futuristic technology (such as spaceships and time machines) within an alternative history age of steam (that is, with Victorian levels of technology, such as rudimentary electrics and steam power). It's not just about regular steam technology.
6:22 "There's only one problem, they forgot to ask France."
This should tell you right here and there like "Alright boiiiiiiis it's time to cancel this theme park and look for another country in EU." But this also sums up the whole video.
The EU didn't exist in 1992. Soz.
LOL that french at the very start is sooo bad. Love the voice crack, nice job mike.
I cant believe they banned wine! Like do they know they are in France...
Avery Lopez-Baines excuse me it was a long working day. ;_;
Why can't I stop laughing 😂
I had to stop the video and go for a walk to get all that cringe out of my system
Roy Blekman That's not the first time they've had issues with not having alcohol at a park. Before WDW was built, Walt wanted to build a smaller Disney park that was Main Street USA-themed in St. Louis, Missouri because Walt wanted to celebrate his childhood memories and nostalgia of living in Missouri in the early 1900's. However, Anheuser-Busch fought Walt and the mayor the entire way because they didn't want a theme park that refused to sell alcohol. Eventually the project was cancelled, (maybe that could be a Defunctland episode?) and Walt chose to focus on Florida instead.
My city could have had a Disney park...
We visited Disneyland Paris twice, in 1994 and 1995 while stationed in Europe. We got great deals through travel agents because they were trying to get attendance up. The parks were great, the staff was too, and our interactions with local French people - bakeries, gas stations, etc - were all fine. Disney made some course corrections, like changing the name from Euro Disney between our first and second visit, and eventually allowing alcohol. We were aware of the startup controversy but as far as I know the park/resort is doing fine.
Mike: We just want to Open a disney world in france🥺
france: And what if we burned it down.
Tony Baxter is probably one of the best Imagineers that has ever lived. His attention to detail and story is second to none. Such a shame he retired, we need him now more than ever, these IP central lands are so boring compared to the cool lands Tony drew up
Hear hear.
krytharn Agreed. You can only guess what a great mind like Walt’s or Baxter “would have done”. Same can be said about John Lasseter, so Pixar better watch their step if they think the success and creativity as we have known it can continue without him.
"IP central lands" is a good way of putting it. I've had a hard time describing what I don't like about Disney's most recent directions in things. This is definitely it. It's sad, really. Loses a lot of the creativity and just feels like a quick buck being shoved down your throat. :/
Tony is also responsible for doing away with the Swiss Family Tree House.
you dont like "RecentlyAcquiredIPland"?
It’s like if we called it “Money Disney”
Its actually more like naming the original Disneyland 'dollar disney' .... which ironically makes it sound incredibly cheap and tacky.
Euro is not just the currency, but is used in many institutions. So I guess it would actually be like calling it "Federal Disney".
My Father was the installation foreman for Frontierland at Euro Disneyland. What that means his he and his team constructed all the audio-animatronics for Phantom Manor, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, and the Shooting Gallery attractions at their facility in Orlando, tested them for a few months, then traveled with them to France and installed them in the attractions alongside the French construction team. My family and I had the adventure of living in Paris for a year and a half while Dad worked to build the park. I will say that Euro Disneyland was up to that point the most beautiful park out of them all. Visually, the architecture was striking and though it was a small park, you would spend quite a bit of time taking everything in. We could tell though that all the typical Disney magic just wasn't working for the French. They looked at it all with a distaste I'll never forget. For them, it was fake, it was American, and it was idiotic. Such a shame that such an amazing park just didn't connect like it could have. My Father often jokes that, 'They could've put that park in Southern Hell and it would've done better.' Years later, when I too was a Disney Cast Member, I had the pleasure of meeting John Hench when he came to Space Mountain one day during one of my shifts there. I instantly knew who he was and allowed him to enter through the FastPass entrance of the attraction. My supervisor said, "Hey, who was that guy you just let in? He didn't have a ticket.' I said, 'That's the man who DESIGNED this attraction. He can enter through whatever door he wants!' Mr. Hench was very friendly and approachable. He had no entourage with him. I don't even think anyone knew he was there! It was so great to spend just a couple of minutes talking to him.
That Simpson bit in itchy and scratchy land making fun of euro Disney will never fail to make me laugh
"It's like going to see Hamlet and none of the characters look like what you expect"
bruuuh do you know ANYTHING about how shakespeare is performed? lmaoo
Hell that is any Play. I have seen a couple shows of The Wizard of Oz, and none of them looked a like
Nick Rustyson ummm I think what she meant is that back in Shakespeares era women weren’t allowed to perform so all the actors where males. Even the female roles where played by men
Shout out to the National Theater in London! (seriously, they have some of the best reinterpretations of my boy Willy Shakes' works)
Holly Lovelock or even men pretending to be women who are pretending to be men.
@@swampdonkey1567 You can just imagine the confusion in the audience when they watched Twelfth Night
Huh, I always thought Disneyland Paris was well liked. At least, it is, here in the Netherlands. It is not uncommon here for people to take a trip to Disneyland for a day or two.
It is now, but it had a really rocky start.
Efteling is way better though
That's so true!
Efteling ftw.
Why travel for 2 days to go to a place where half the people hate your presence for a theme park that's lost it's touch when you can have a magical time that's only an hour's drive away?
Paulina Moerland that's only because the French don't like anything
does the audio go out of sync in the middle for any one else?
Before deciding on Paris for building Euro Disney, they were also considering the natural park "De Schorre" in Boom, Belgium for building this park.
Nowadays De Schorre is well-known as the location of the Tomorrowland Festival.
For a short while Disney even considered Denmark, because in American eyes Denmark equals HC Andersen that in turn equals fairytales, but the Danish government said NO! And I'm happy they did
We've been invited to Disneyland to see Space Mountain!
We've packed light, we brought a smile, a dance, a sOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOng!
Dear God that was awful. I've never hit fast forward so quickly in all my life.
I am new to the fast forward option because I'm on a cellphone, I only use it on accident. I wish I remembered it was a function.
That cringe! And fabulous sassy hair!
That Mickey Mouse voice was horrible. It sounds like it was from before Jimmy McDonald retired, which means they had no excuse for not having him record the voiceover or play the part at the opening. Obviously, it isn't him.
mariopikaman1 you all should see the whole special. It's the most cringe inducing Disney product I ever sat through.....can't stop watching it tbh
Talking from a french POV ;
- other attraction park opening weren't a problem there wasn't many of the scale of disneyland, and the failure usually was because of a point i will go after
- the manifester were really few back then many were happy to see it opening.
- The strike from public transport had nothing to do with disney
- About the naming, not really a problem as they used Dineyland Paris in France and many countries more than eurodisney
- Wine is banned from every bar that doesn't have a special licence so again not a problem, many people drink beer in amusement parks
The real issues (that you never nearly talk here) were :
- Financial arrangements (what killed many other park), Disney tried to do the same with disneyland paris as tokyo. But theyè were misguided and ended doing really bad credits and going with a company that had no interested in seeing the park growing. It leads to disney rebuying the park in 2018 so they avoid going down with the other company.
- Bad public transports at start. It took two years before having trains at the foot of the park, before you had to go to paris then take public transports for 35 minutes, people didn't want that.
- Price of hotels. Like. really ? back then it was the price of a night for a 4/5* hotel in the center of paris. They started lowering the price a few years ago.
- Lots of attraction issues, many many attractions were often closed for half the day, customer don't want to come back when this happens to many popular attractions.
- Lacks of big attraction at first, space mountain was constructed 8 years after the park opening, the indiana jones roller coaster 5 years. The only exciting thing was the thundermounbtain ride. Which was already back then kinda "slow".
The parc open in 1992, Indiana Jones open in 1993 and Space mountain in 1995
Also, with the RER it actually takes about 35 minutes to get from Paris to DLP.
"...Bad public transports at start. It took two years before having trains at the foot of the park, before you had to go to paris then take public transports for 35 minutes, people didn't want that...." >> That has to do with EUROSTAR, and nothing else then Eurostar. The contract was set up from the start of planning. However, the CHUNNEL actually opened in 1994, Eurodisney in 1992. It's ignorance to blame that on Disney... By the way: neither Disneyland Anaheim, nor WDW do have public transport by train/underground. Tokio does have it (local train connection to city centre only, Maihama Line) Contrasting to all this, Disney Paris has the hugest train transport hub of all theme parks in the world, on it's front door.... If you want to compare, be honest and compare the real thing.
When i went in 2005, the phantom manor, one of my dream attraction, was closed because flooded. I remember the sadness that I felt when I read "closed" near the Manor's gate..
@@DumbseekerFrampt o went last year and the ride were quite good but don't no what is was like when it 1st open but It cost me 500 in fligth but cost me almost 1500 four 2 night stay with access to park. For 2k I can fly my family to turkey and stay in and all inclusive resort ,
I've been to Disney in Orlando, Florida and also to EuroDisney in France. EuroDisney was phenomenally well-kept and clean. Never have I seen such an impeccable and beautiful park. I enjoyed my visit there immensely and I would hope that people feel differently after actually visiting there.
Disney Executive Casually Admits They Have Never Seen a Play (the Hamlet thing)
"Who would want to go and see Hamlet if the characters all looked different to how they expected?"
Yeah, imagine if the characters were lions or something.
Um, even elementary schools have students get involved in stage productions.
I'm from the UK and I know loads of people, including my parents, who have gone to disneyland paris. For some its the only way to ever afford to go to a Disney Park.
@Thora Friganza the thing is there's now way better theme parks in europe. But it stil remains the only way for most European familys to experience disneyland so I get what you mean
I loved it!
imagine that in the whole American continent (from argentina and chile in the south to canada in the north) the only disney park we have are in the USA and its a life time travel for most people and the vast majority of people can only dream of that kind of travel, not to mention its not quite easy to enter to the usa
@@fiamumuser What do you mean? I'm a bit confused
@@fiamumuser like Disney USA is way better