i use michelin 7.50 x 16 XZL on my Td5 90....used for farm work in sunny Scotland.....where it rains occasionally...usually about 340 days out of 365.......i swear by these XZL tyres.....not great on wet roads....but a farm defender is meant for towing and X country work........heathery hill , mud and wet grass.....XZLs they are standard fit for Brit army landrovers.....says it all really.... thanks for the video, tyre tips and review....
Thanks. Yes fatter looks better. In death valley we came across a Jeep club out on an adventure. They all had stupidly large wheels and tyres except one. I went and spoke to that driver. Turns out he was the most experienced in the group…
@MarcusTuck I have nearly 50 years experience with military, municipality and construction vehicles and tyres. A Unimog or heavier off road trucks max out at 14 - 16inch width tyres. These trucks weigh 4, 5, 6, 10 times what any recreational off reader weighs. It is rare that you need exceptional floatation and, that is better provided by airing down a narrower tyre than fitting some silly 35/14.5 r15 monster bogger and busting transmission components. But, many won't listen
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@@auladepiano hard to say. if they have only been used on road at full pressure, probably ok. but if they have spent a lot of their life at low pressure, maybe not. Very hard to tell by just looking at them, other than if there is obvious damage.
Thanks for the review. If your car is not levitating or sinking to the antipode, contact area to the first order is going to be weight on the tire divided by the pressure (the side wall supports a little weight all by itself). These are really hard to find in the US.
That I understood in the Video. But how is it at sand, mud, track for the rear tires. By the way we have the same car. But as a 630 E Version. Wbr Erik
@@ROCKETONTOUR on the rear on rough tracks and firm sand I use 45 psi, very soft sand 25, emergency soft sand I have been down to 15 psi but it is easy to ‘pop’ the bead of the tyre while turning at these very low pressures. On the front (2200 kg) I use 43 psi on road, 25 psi on track and sand, soft sand 15 psi dropping to 10 psi if necessary (risk of popping the bead again). On flat sand if I find I need low range it generally means I haven’t deflated enough. Generally I would say it is good in all conditions with the correct tyre pressure.
I am a tyre freak but even I learned a couple of things. The weights of tyres are very hard to find out, thanks for that (but say 40 kg they are unlikely to be within 100g of each other) But one point I have to contest : lowering the pressure does not lower rpm (or only v. slightly) as the steel bands in tyres work the same as caterpillar tracks. As for differential working: they work constantly on the axles as does the gearbox (which is more delicate) so saving wear? The measured data followed by actual use reports is what I love to see but very few you tubers do (generally I hate youtube as mostly emotional drivel not data - I can read which is far faster for data transfer)
Hi Joecrennan, thanks for your comments. I quoted the tyre weight specification from Michelin. I have try make the data as accurate as possible so didn't want to round up, but I agree there probably is a ± tolerance of this figure. Lowering the tyre pressure will increase the rpm for that wheel at the same vehicle speed, that's just the laws of physics. The point I was trying to get across is that if all the wheels have the same rolling radius (centre of the axle to the ground, effectively wheel rim to ground - easier to measure) all the wheels will be rotating at the same speed when driving straight ahead. This in turn means that none of the 3 differentials internal gears (axle side gear and spider gears) will be turning, so will have less wear. If the radius of the wheels on either side of an axle were different or the rear axle wheels radius' were different to the front axle ones the differentials internal gears would then have to turn to compensate for this, which would lead to some wear over time. If you are driving with the differential locked (or you have a car without a centre differential, older 2wd/4wd selection gearboxes) then this principle helps to reduce loads on the drive shafts as you will get less 'wind-up' in the drive chain. Obviously in the real world the tyres are going to be compressed as you go over bumps and the wheels will have to rotate at different speeds as you turn etc, all of this will require the differentials to do their job, but while driving straight you can minimise wear and strain.
@@MarcusTuck I had not thought about it before but I think @joecrennan has a very good point. When a tire is deflated it isn't acting as a wheel anymore but as tracks. And what will matter for distance travelled by full rotation will be the perimeter of the tracks/tire, and this perimeter does not change when you deflate (but changes with wear). Still it remains advised to have the same inflation on both wheels.
I ordered a brand new iveco daily 4x4 with the Michelin 255/100 R16 tires from factory. How much kilometers can intrige with them when Inam on the road/ off the road? Thanks for the great video, greetings from the Netherlands.
Hi Guido, We have 6 tyres and rotate them every 10,000km. This gives an average life of about 50,000km. We are at 5900kg, if you are lighter, you should get more.
@@MarcusTuck thanks for the quick response. Great to hear that the wear is approximately 50.000 km. I will build the iveco with wheelbase 308 cm at 3500 kilo (total weight) with a very base ‘light weight’ construction. The box only “empty” is only 400 kilo!
I have heard that production has been discontinued for the Michelin 255/100R16 XZL tires. Does anyone know if this is true? They (and the 9.00 R16 ZXL tires) are just about impossible to find in the US, and I note that many suppliers in other countries list them as "Out of Stock"
They are still in production, I’ve just ordered a couple. It is very unusual to find any in stock anywhere though. There price is also becoming ridiculous too. In North America they are for military use only. I had yo get Michelin in Europe to release them to me. This could be why they are saying they are unavailable.
@@MarcusTuck What was the price? I've just bought a 101 ambulance which is fitted with possibly the original bar grip tyres if the cracking sidewalls is anything to go by. 31,000 miles on the clock. I'm having difficulty finding any of these tyres. Actually anything that is 900x16.
@@koitorob they are expensive, apparently they are cheapest in Luxembourg €450, I have been quoted over €1000 in other places so you need to shop around.
What is the actual measured size (diameter) of these 255/100r16s?? calculator says 36" but they look smaller than that, would love to have a set on my HJ61
@@MarcusTuck Ya I've got the specs from the sheet, but what is the actual measurement on the truck with a tape measure?? I'll be shocked if it is 923mm since tyres usually seem 2" smaller in real life than the spec sheet
@@mangomcpoo475 I've just measured my least worn tyre and allowing for tread wear it is as per the spec sheet ±1 or 2 mm. If you are talking about the top of the tyre from the ground when fitted to the vehicle then that will be a function of load and tyre pressure. In my case with a 5900kg vehicle it is 880 mm = 34.6" (at road pressure).
@@MarcusTuck Thanks for taking the time for me :) good to know. yeah my current set of Dunlops 225/95r16 are only 31" even though they are supposed to be more than that(32.8"), they look tiny on the cruiser. cheers
I have seen them used on Landrovers so it could probably be done. They are heavy though, 39.9kg and have a top speed of 110kph (with a 3400kg or lighter axle).
Cheers mate, I am annoyed with Australia, I’ve been trying to get 750/16 XZL for my Land Rover perentie for several years, nowhere can get them and claim this model has been discontinued for years, you bid proves they’re lying
Marcus Tuck well I gave up after a few years and fitted the KM3 which I heard the ADF had selected as the replacement it mayve been KM2 they chose, but it’s good off road can’t believe the massive difference in grip due to the tyre flex, I couldn’t go over a fallen tree before now it barely tried, going up a rocky hill I would’ve just spun on now as again no trouble at all
Not too sure why Michelin don't let public access to the XZL everywhere in the world. It's used by military, firefighter and other public organizations all over the world, so the tire are legal everywhere and shipped everywhere... I can confirm than in Europe the 7.50R16 XZL is still available publicly and have seen new tires with build date in 2020 and 2022 recently. But yeah in the end you have to go with what is available where you live...
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i use michelin 7.50 x 16 XZL on my Td5 90....used for farm work in sunny Scotland.....where it rains occasionally...usually about 340 days out of 365.......i swear by these XZL tyres.....not great on wet roads....but a farm defender is meant for towing and X country work........heathery hill , mud and wet grass.....XZLs they are standard fit for Brit army landrovers.....says it all really....
thanks for the video, tyre tips and review....
Probably the most sensible tyre video on YT. Still, fatter looks better which is all that seems to matter
Thanks. Yes fatter looks better. In death valley we came across a Jeep club out on an adventure. They all had stupidly large wheels and tyres except one. I went and spoke to that driver. Turns out he was the most experienced in the group…
@MarcusTuck I have nearly 50 years experience with military, municipality and construction vehicles and tyres. A Unimog or heavier off road trucks max out at 14 - 16inch width tyres. These trucks weigh 4, 5, 6, 10 times what any recreational off reader weighs. It is rare that you need exceptional floatation and, that is better provided by airing down a narrower tyre than fitting some silly 35/14.5 r15 monster bogger and busting transmission components. But, many won't listen
Very informative and clearly explained. Excellent upload.
Excellent video, very informative.
definitely you have amazing amount of information , i wish i can download some of your indispensable substantial information to my brain , wish you all the best , hope we can meet , i crossed 40 countries on my motorcycle alone , now , Im thinking to buy like your truck so I can travel with my wife .
The best tire review ever ...
Thanks 👍
Loved your video.
Thinking of putting this XZL on my 3500 Troopy Land cruiser camper.
Glad you liked it, they are good tyres. We've never had a puncture on our front axle, which is probably about the weight of your rear axle (2200kg).
@@MarcusTuck correct.. 1400kg front and 2100kg in the back.
Used ones are any good???
@@auladepiano hard to say. if they have only been used on road at full pressure, probably ok. but if they have spent a lot of their life at low pressure, maybe not. Very hard to tell by just looking at them, other than if there is obvious damage.
@@MarcusTuck thanks Marcus
Ok I just bought 4 XZL. Soon I'll let you know my findings about this combo Troopy+military tires.
Once again... Thanks a lot Marcus.
Brilliant info. I love these tyres.
Thanks for this informative video mate!
Thanks for the review. If your car is not levitating or sinking to the antipode, contact area to the first order is going to be weight on the tire divided by the pressure (the side wall supports a little weight all by itself). These are really hard to find in the US.
If it is any help, this is the North American Michelin listing: Michelin XZL 126K (LRD) 255/100R16
North American part number: 70864
Very beautiful explanation Marcus. 👍
Thank you
Very good video. What are the pressures for the rear tires? Wbr
Thanks. At an axle mass of 3700 kg I use 73 psi.
That I understood in the Video. But how is it at sand, mud, track for the rear tires. By the way we have the same car. But as a 630 E Version. Wbr Erik
@@ROCKETONTOUR on the rear on rough tracks and firm sand I use 45 psi, very soft sand 25, emergency soft sand I have been down to 15 psi but it is easy to ‘pop’ the bead of the tyre while turning at these very low pressures. On the front (2200 kg) I use 43 psi on road, 25 psi on track and sand, soft sand 15 psi dropping to 10 psi if necessary (risk of popping the bead again). On flat sand if I find I need low range it generally means I haven’t deflated enough.
Generally I would say it is good in all conditions with the correct tyre pressure.
@@MarcusTuck thank you very much
Hi, brilliant video.. thanks. I am currently ordering a set of XZL's for my daily. Could you please suggest correct rim width? Thanks
Thanks, my Daily 4x4 has 6.5” wide rims.
@@MarcusTuck thanks, much appreciated
Super useful as usual!
Very informative tell me have you altered your brakes in front or are they standard, thanks Gary
I am a tyre freak but even I learned a couple of things. The weights of tyres are very hard to find out, thanks for that (but say 40 kg they are unlikely to be within 100g of each other)
But one point I have to contest : lowering the pressure does not lower rpm (or only v. slightly) as the steel bands in tyres work the same as caterpillar tracks. As for differential working: they work constantly on the axles as does the gearbox (which is more delicate) so saving wear?
The measured data followed by actual use reports is what I love to see but very few you tubers do (generally I hate youtube as mostly emotional drivel not data - I can read which is far faster for data transfer)
Hi Joecrennan, thanks for your comments. I quoted the tyre weight specification from Michelin. I have try make the data as accurate as possible so didn't want to round up, but I agree there probably is a ± tolerance of this figure. Lowering the tyre pressure will increase the rpm for that wheel at the same vehicle speed, that's just the laws of physics. The point I was trying to get across is that if all the wheels have the same rolling radius (centre of the axle to the ground, effectively wheel rim to ground - easier to measure) all the wheels will be rotating at the same speed when driving straight ahead. This in turn means that none of the 3 differentials internal gears (axle side gear and spider gears) will be turning, so will have less wear. If the radius of the wheels on either side of an axle were different or the rear axle wheels radius' were different to the front axle ones the differentials internal gears would then have to turn to compensate for this, which would lead to some wear over time. If you are driving with the differential locked (or you have a car without a centre differential, older 2wd/4wd selection gearboxes) then this principle helps to reduce loads on the drive shafts as you will get less 'wind-up' in the drive chain. Obviously in the real world the tyres are going to be compressed as you go over bumps and the wheels will have to rotate at different speeds as you turn etc, all of this will require the differentials to do their job, but while driving straight you can minimise wear and strain.
@@MarcusTuck I had not thought about it before but I think @joecrennan has a very good point. When a tire is deflated it isn't acting as a wheel anymore but as tracks. And what will matter for distance travelled by full rotation will be the perimeter of the tracks/tire, and this perimeter does not change when you deflate (but changes with wear).
Still it remains advised to have the same inflation on both wheels.
I ordered a brand new iveco daily 4x4 with the Michelin 255/100 R16 tires from factory. How much kilometers can intrige with them when Inam on the road/ off the road? Thanks for the great video, greetings from the Netherlands.
Hi Guido, We have 6 tyres and rotate them every 10,000km. This gives an average life of about 50,000km. We are at 5900kg, if you are lighter, you should get more.
@@MarcusTuck thanks for the quick response. Great to hear that the wear is approximately 50.000 km. I will build the iveco with wheelbase 308 cm at 3500 kilo (total weight) with a very base ‘light weight’ construction. The box only “empty” is only 400 kilo!
I have heard that production has been discontinued for the Michelin 255/100R16 XZL tires. Does anyone know if this is true?
They (and the 9.00 R16 ZXL tires) are just about impossible to find in the US, and I note that many suppliers in other countries list them as "Out of Stock"
They are still in production, I’ve just ordered a couple. It is very unusual to find any in stock anywhere though. There price is also becoming ridiculous too. In North America they are for military use only. I had yo get Michelin in Europe to release them to me. This could be why they are saying they are unavailable.
Just picked up a couple of new tyres in Ireland. Manufacture date was first week of march this year in Spain.
@@MarcusTuck What was the price? I've just bought a 101 ambulance which is fitted with possibly the original bar grip tyres if the cracking sidewalls is anything to go by. 31,000 miles on the clock. I'm having difficulty finding any of these tyres. Actually anything that is 900x16.
@@koitorob they are expensive, apparently they are cheapest in Luxembourg €450, I have been quoted over €1000 in other places so you need to shop around.
What is the actual measured size (diameter) of these 255/100r16s?? calculator says 36" but they look smaller than that, would love to have a set on my HJ61
From the specification sheet they have a diameter of 923 mm = 36.34"
@@MarcusTuck Ya I've got the specs from the sheet, but what is the actual measurement on the truck with a tape measure?? I'll be shocked if it is 923mm since tyres usually seem 2" smaller in real life than the spec sheet
@@mangomcpoo475 I've just measured my least worn tyre and allowing for tread wear it is as per the spec sheet ±1 or 2 mm. If you are talking about the top of the tyre from the ground when fitted to the vehicle then that will be a function of load and tyre pressure. In my case with a 5900kg vehicle it is 880 mm = 34.6" (at road pressure).
@@MarcusTuck Thanks for taking the time for me :) good to know. yeah my current set of Dunlops 225/95r16 are only 31" even though they are supposed to be more than that(32.8"), they look tiny on the cruiser. cheers
It is 91 cm high
Good info. Would you ever run these tires on a hilux?
I have seen them used on Landrovers so it could probably be done. They are heavy though, 39.9kg and have a top speed of 110kph (with a 3400kg or lighter axle).
how noisy are these tires on the road ?
They are probably noisier than road tyres but in our truck at 80kph we hear the noise of a car overtaking us above the tyre noise, it not very loud.
Cheers mate, I am annoyed with Australia, I’ve been trying to get 750/16 XZL for my Land Rover perentie for several years, nowhere can get them and claim this model has been discontinued for years, you bid proves they’re lying
That tyre size is used a lot by the British military on their Landrovers so I can't see it being out of production!
Marcus Tuck well I gave up after a few years and fitted the KM3 which I heard the ADF had selected as the replacement it mayve been KM2 they chose, but it’s good off road can’t believe the massive difference in grip due to the tyre flex, I couldn’t go over a fallen tree before now it barely tried, going up a rocky hill I would’ve just spun on now as again no trouble at all
Not too sure why Michelin don't let public access to the XZL everywhere in the world. It's used by military, firefighter and other public organizations all over the world, so the tire are legal everywhere and shipped everywhere...
I can confirm than in Europe the 7.50R16 XZL is still available publicly and have seen new tires with build date in 2020 and 2022 recently.
But yeah in the end you have to go with what is available where you live...
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