Oh David - for me from England this is a video of (literally) fabulous cars and drivers I’ve heard of over the decades but never seen. I just lapped it up. Very good sound and vision too. Thank you so much to you and IMS for recognising the need and opportunity to film it. Roll on Part 2.
That title scared the crap out of me! Halloween freak out special. I'm excited to visit again in the future and see the new museum. I've been to the IMS museum many times now and it did feel like not much changed besides the showroom to the left when you walked in. The museum at Barber Motorsports Park blew me away when we went to the IndyCar race in 2017. I've been back to Barber a few times now. If IMS can come ever close to the Barber museum I would be very happy.
Having the opportunity to visit this museum a few years ago is one of my favorite memories and experiences. Thank you David for providing such a detailed and educational video on this incredible collection of history.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! For so long, I've always wanted to visit the IMS Museum at Indianapolis. Growing up in Albuquerque, NM you couldn't help but follow car racing. The closest I've been to the museum was a flight I took with some friends to look at an airplane they eventually purchased. I knew it was a 2 1/2 mile track, but seeing it from the air, I couldn't believe how emence the track actually is. I hope to someday see the museum in person.
this video is amazing... i was just there a couple weeks ago. it was really cool to see the old museum one more time before the remodel. your cameraman got all the access i would have loved to get all the shots of the cars. The Maserati was my favorites of that exhibit it was really cool to see the cockpit of the car thank you for that i might have to go back one more time before the 6th other favs AJ's sprint car, the red alfa romero and i always have to pass by weldon's car before i leave and pay silent respect to the man and that white and neon orange livery with a honda badge
i'm not an indy native but my earliest memories here involve the IMS museum. i maybe thought walking thru it in the 90s was boring but that was as a kid. i'm thankful to Dave for the video but also to the IMS for core memories. Just wish i appreciated all that history more. But i will do more to pass it on now
My mother and brother worked for a man that was commissioned to make blankets for Tony Holman and the I'm not sure of the year 63-64 ! They were silk screened with the different colors , the artist was Bob Givens ! They made the blankets for the pole winner, the winner of the race , the Queen and course Tony and several of the Holman family! I think we delivered 30-40 blankets to the speedway! I wish I could get a picture of one of those blankets so I could show my grandchildren!!!
So many great memories there. Truly one of my favorite places. Thank you for doing this video prior to the renovation. I'm sure the new museum will be amazing, but hard to let go of the past.
My many times of visiting the I.M.S. grounds and, the historic museum, I did not know (or recalled) that the 1956 grand opening of the Speedway's Museum was in honor of Wilbur Shaw's Indy victories and well placing in his years at Indy. He was a good choice as president of the Speedway. So glad to see and detail understand how those classic auto racing cars came through with fantastic innovations. Which one of these beauties I would love to drive? "The Boyle Special". I loved the style and, it is my favorite color. "Cannonball" Baker is buried at Crown Hill Cemetery in Indianapolis. I came across it by chance at C.H.C. in 2015.
My big concern is that the longer we continue on with the DW12, the more the museum will make the lack of progress on the machine side of IndyCar racing starkly apparent. I mean, decades and decades of incredible variety, and then it pretty much grinds to a halt in 2012. Well, not completely, but if you display the original aero kit, Chevy/Honda aero kits, Universal aero kit and a Aeroscreen car, you've got everything covered except for different paint jobs. I kinda fear taking my grandkids to the museum and asking, "Grandpa, why did the cars stop changing?"
If you take your grandkids to this museum and ask them "Grandpa, why did the cars stop changing?", you may want to get yourself checked for Alzheimer's...
I guess you missed where they used the same car from 2003 to 2011 without big body changes. However, the availability of the newer cars is limited by ownership. Some of the cars are could still be raced (possibly even as far back as the 2014 winner) Honda drug both the Sato winners back to Japan. Penske has all its recent winners stuffed and mounted. The 2021 and 2022 cars are still being raced for sure. a fan purchased the 2013 winner, and Chip preserved the 2012 winner.
I think you need to go back to 1984 because March cars were building 30 of the 33 starters and the basic layout with fuel behind the driver's seat and sidepods freed for ground effects tunnels is what dominates to this day. Sure carbon fiber has become the norm and safety has pushed the cockpit back and the suspension has gone from pull rods to push rods but most of the changes since the middle 1980's has been 'wind tunnel tweeks' and software updates. I ask you this, how much did airplanes change between 1930 and 1960 and how much from 1960 to 1990? In ways that are obvious to the eye from a quarter mile? Why do you expect that a racing car will change more than aircraft over the same length of time? The story of Indycar design since the mid 1980's is mulit-millions being spent by companies and then trying to make back their investment by selling 100 cars a year. March, Lola and Reynard dominated that time with only Penske, provising any meaningful opposition. Yes there was Swift and Gurney and Turesport/Rahal and Patrick Wildcats and Reiley & Scott but they were little more than footnotes and until they could sell cars in reasonable numbers they were just money pits. As for me, my favorite Indycar is the Salih 'laydown' Offy that won in 1957 & 1958. A story about a man who thought he could build a better car. He built it in his backyard garage with his own money and even some that he 'stolid' from his daughter's collage fund. He thought someone would buy the car but no one came forward so he entered the car himself. He towed it from California to Indy and only then did he find a driver. Sam Hanks had run several Indianapolis 500's but never up front. He had decided to retire but George Salih talked him into one last try. And THEY WON! A year later Jimmy Bryan became the second winner in that car. Each time I see that car, I am lost in emotion.
I finally went for the first time in late September. I wish I would have had access to the curator when I was there. My wife, daughters and grand babies were with me but they could have left me behind and came back hours later to get me. 🙂
I love the cameraperson getting behind the ropes and up close, and I especially love the dive into the technology in the cars. What I'd really like to see in the future is some insight into what the cars would be like as a driver - would that tiny rock screen on the Joe Dawson car really protect him much? Would the front wheel drive car drive that differently in an age where top speed was more important than grip in the turns? Was that Tucker Special as tough to handle as the Auto Unions that inspired it? What on earth would it be like to drive that 1905 Premier? Those riding mechanics in the earliest cars, how much time were they working, and how much time were they just looking out for traffic? How rough was the ride for the drivers on the old brick surface, or the older crushed stone and sand? That's the kind of insight you can't really get by just visiting the museum unless you really know what you're looking at
Love your videos. The museum is the second one I have visited. Looking forward to the completion of the remake. Good production value of the videos. When visiting the IMS museum you can get a real good look of the outside of the cars. Your cameraman did a good job of the cockpits.
🕰Amazing context about old car👏. Congrat David I do love all those car but number 28 car drive me crazy ❤💛🇺🇸. I still loving Indy Car Race.🇺🇸❤. Thank you David Land for share with us🤝🇺🇸this wonderful video about Indy Car history. My best regard for you, from Brazil.🙋
Fantastic footage. I do hope the 1956 exhibits are shown exactly as they are during the renovations. I wonder if these cars still run - it would be fun to see that 1905 Premier take a full lap of the speedway.
I hope that in 2025 you get to do a minor preview of the refurbished museum with this gentleman as well as Doug Boles... However a part of me still hopes a portion of the museum stays secret to the public...sorry to say it but that adds to part of the mystique to the IMS history that is shown memorial day weekend with the parade of cars...
This museum series is quite impressive. Does the speedway own all those or are they "on loan"? Will the new place be open for next year's 500? Nice plug in the new Harrison book, by the way.
It may be time to step up the wardrobe David! I’m a T shirt guy too, but if you wanted to invest in a few sets of decent stuff for reporting of this type, it might be a good next step!
I hope they put the engines and memorabilia back, it used to be where the retail space is now. What a shame to put that stuff in a warehouse so they could sell t-shirts. Boo! And get the Miller cars back on display, like Duray's front drive and Lou Meyer's #14.
I can't think of any front engined Indycars either! They all had the engine between the front and rear wheels. Front mid engined cars and side mid-engined, the 1967 turbine.
You clearly are living in some time warp. I talked to a guy working in the carpentry shop and he said Roger is spending a ton of money making every part of that property work better....
They rebuilt the actual racetrack and grandstands since Penske took over?? Lemme guess, go wading through the infield wetlands and gather old bricks for a "repave"?? Give us all a break and screw off with your piss poor attitude. Some of us are here for a reason, fandom. You are here to simply troll. Back under the bridge...
Oh David - for me from England this is a video of (literally) fabulous cars and drivers I’ve heard of over the decades but never seen. I just lapped it up. Very good sound and vision too. Thank you so much to you and IMS for recognising the need and opportunity to film it. Roll on Part 2.
That title scared the crap out of me! Halloween freak out special. I'm excited to visit again in the future and see the new museum. I've been to the IMS museum many times now and it did feel like not much changed besides the showroom to the left when you walked in. The museum at Barber Motorsports Park blew me away when we went to the IndyCar race in 2017. I've been back to Barber a few times now. If IMS can come ever close to the Barber museum I would be very happy.
Having the opportunity to visit this museum a few years ago is one of my favorite memories and experiences. Thank you David for providing such a detailed and educational video on this incredible collection of history.
Haven’t been to the museum since 2016, but always loved going in the past. Can’t wait till its reopened and get to go again.
Great video, camera work and expertise from Jason and David.
Im glad i got a chance to tour the museum when i went to the 500 in 2019. That said, i look forward to the renovation.
When two people with intricate knowledge and passion for the subject make a video, the result is just fascinating 👍
Thumbs up for the shots around and up close to the cars, really immersive tour.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! For so long, I've always wanted to visit the IMS Museum at Indianapolis. Growing up in Albuquerque, NM you couldn't help but follow car racing. The closest I've been to the museum was a flight I took with some friends to look at an airplane they eventually purchased. I knew it was a 2 1/2 mile track, but seeing it from the air, I couldn't believe how emence the track actually is. I hope to someday see the museum in person.
Glad I got to see it a few times!
this video is amazing... i was just there a couple weeks ago. it was really cool to see the old museum one more time before the remodel. your cameraman got all the access i would have loved to get all the shots of the cars. The Maserati was my favorites of that exhibit it was really cool to see the cockpit of the car thank you for that
i might have to go back one more time before the 6th
other favs AJ's sprint car, the red alfa romero and i always have to pass by weldon's car before i leave and pay silent respect to the man and that white and neon orange livery with a honda badge
Thank you
i'm not an indy native but my earliest memories here involve the IMS museum. i maybe thought walking thru it in the 90s was boring but that was as a kid. i'm thankful to Dave for the video but also to the IMS for core memories. Just wish i appreciated all that history more. But i will do more to pass it on now
My mother and brother worked for a man that was commissioned to make blankets for Tony Holman and the I'm not sure of the year 63-64 ! They were silk screened with the different colors , the artist was Bob Givens ! They made the blankets for the pole winner, the winner of the race , the Queen and course Tony and several of the Holman family! I think we delivered 30-40 blankets to the speedway! I wish I could get a picture of one of those blankets so I could show my grandchildren!!!
Excellent discussion!
So many great memories there. Truly one of my favorite places. Thank you for doing this video prior to the renovation. I'm sure the new museum will be amazing, but hard to let go of the past.
Thank you David, you made this ol' racer smile:)
My many times of visiting the I.M.S. grounds and, the historic museum, I did not know (or recalled) that the 1956 grand opening of the Speedway's Museum was in honor of Wilbur Shaw's Indy victories and well placing in his years at Indy. He was a good choice as president of the Speedway.
So glad to see and detail understand how those classic auto racing cars came through with fantastic innovations.
Which one of these beauties I would love to drive? "The Boyle Special". I loved the style and, it is my favorite color.
"Cannonball" Baker is buried at Crown Hill Cemetery in Indianapolis. I came across it by chance at C.H.C. in 2015.
Looking forward to the re-opening! I went there in 2015 & it was awesome
I visited there in August for the first time!
My big concern is that the longer we continue on with the DW12, the more the museum will make the lack of progress on the machine side of IndyCar racing starkly apparent. I mean, decades and decades of incredible variety, and then it pretty much grinds to a halt in 2012. Well, not completely, but if you display the original aero kit, Chevy/Honda aero kits, Universal aero kit and a Aeroscreen car, you've got everything covered except for different paint jobs. I kinda fear taking my grandkids to the museum and asking, "Grandpa, why did the cars stop changing?"
Ground to a halt in 1996. Thanks Tony George.
If you take your grandkids to this museum and ask them "Grandpa, why did the cars stop changing?", you may want to get yourself checked for Alzheimer's...
I guess you missed where they used the same car from 2003 to 2011 without big body changes. However, the availability of the newer cars is limited by ownership. Some of the cars are could still be raced (possibly even as far back as the 2014 winner) Honda drug both the Sato winners back to Japan. Penske has all its recent winners stuffed and mounted. The 2021 and 2022 cars are still being raced for sure. a fan purchased the 2013 winner, and Chip preserved the 2012 winner.
I think you need to go back to 1984 because March cars were building 30 of the 33 starters and the basic layout with fuel behind the driver's seat and sidepods freed for ground effects tunnels is what dominates to this day. Sure carbon fiber has become the norm and safety has pushed the cockpit back and the suspension has gone from pull rods to push rods but most of the changes since the middle 1980's has been 'wind tunnel tweeks' and software updates. I ask you this, how much did airplanes change between 1930 and 1960 and how much from 1960 to 1990? In ways that are obvious to the eye from a quarter mile? Why do you expect that a racing car will change more than aircraft over the same length of time? The story of Indycar design since the mid 1980's is mulit-millions being spent by companies and then trying to make back their investment by selling 100 cars a year. March, Lola and Reynard dominated that time with only Penske, provising any meaningful opposition. Yes there was Swift and Gurney and Turesport/Rahal and Patrick Wildcats and Reiley & Scott but they were little more than footnotes and until they could sell cars in reasonable numbers they were just money pits. As for me, my favorite Indycar is the Salih 'laydown' Offy that won in 1957 & 1958. A story about a man who thought he could build a better car. He built it in his backyard garage with his own money and even some that he 'stolid' from his daughter's collage fund. He thought someone would buy the car but no one came forward so he entered the car himself. He towed it from California to Indy and only then did he find a driver. Sam Hanks had run several Indianapolis 500's but never up front. He had decided to retire but George Salih talked him into one last try. And THEY WON! A year later Jimmy Bryan became the second winner in that car. Each time I see that car, I am lost in emotion.
And with the technical alliance between Penske and Foyt there is simply no argument the teams can't afford to get a new chassis
I was there on Saturday!
i took a basement tour a couple years ago it was amazing i got to see it before Rodger Penske and nbc was there doing a story piece it was very cool
Damn I wish I had seen it in this form.
I finally went for the first time in late September. I wish I would have had access to the curator when I was there. My wife, daughters and grand babies were with me but they could have left me behind and came back hours later to get me. 🙂
wow so glad i got to se it this summer, now i have to go back
I love the cameraperson getting behind the ropes and up close, and I especially love the dive into the technology in the cars. What I'd really like to see in the future is some insight into what the cars would be like as a driver - would that tiny rock screen on the Joe Dawson car really protect him much? Would the front wheel drive car drive that differently in an age where top speed was more important than grip in the turns? Was that Tucker Special as tough to handle as the Auto Unions that inspired it? What on earth would it be like to drive that 1905 Premier? Those riding mechanics in the earliest cars, how much time were they working, and how much time were they just looking out for traffic? How rough was the ride for the drivers on the old brick surface, or the older crushed stone and sand? That's the kind of insight you can't really get by just visiting the museum unless you really know what you're looking at
🏁Great vid, my home away from home!!! 🏁
Love your videos. The museum is the second one I have visited. Looking forward to the completion of the remake. Good production value of the videos. When visiting the IMS museum you can get a real good look of the outside of the cars. Your cameraman did a good job of the cockpits.
🕰Amazing context about old car👏. Congrat David I do love all those car but number 28 car drive me crazy ❤💛🇺🇸. I still loving Indy Car Race.🇺🇸❤. Thank you David Land for share with us🤝🇺🇸this wonderful video about Indy Car history. My best regard for you, from Brazil.🙋
Truly excellent. I live in Evansville and sad to say, I've never toured the museum..... I will look forward to coming videos. Nicely done David.
Fantastic footage. I do hope the 1956 exhibits are shown exactly as they are during the renovations.
I wonder if these cars still run - it would be fun to see that 1905 Premier take a full lap of the speedway.
Thanks for sharing and filming this :D as a Brit I have not get the chance to see this in person. I hope I get to it once refubed.
OMG the rear engines Miller design was the “Preston Tucker Special “…think that should’ve been a mention
Excellent! Very well done my friend!.
Wilbur Shaw was the best of the best in his time. Sending you a few pictures of the 39 car and the Diamond REO truck that hauled it..
I'm mad at myself for not going to the Unser Museum here in Albuquerque before it abruptly closed. I just kind of assumed it'd always be here.
Gonna miss this place
Bruh it’s for a year
Smartest title reader
@@narwhalyt7231 Miss it for 18 months…it ain’t that deep
@@BlackFlagsMatter Shallow enough to not explain yourself better?
I hope that in 2025 you get to do a minor preview of the refurbished museum with this gentleman as well as Doug Boles... However a part of me still hopes a portion of the museum stays secret to the public...sorry to say it but that adds to part of the mystique to the IMS history that is shown memorial day weekend with the parade of cars...
Good question is why Cyrus Patschke isn’t listed as Co-winner of 1911 Indy 500?
This museum series is quite impressive. Does the speedway own all those or are they "on loan"? Will the new place be open for next year's 500? Nice plug in the new Harrison book, by the way.
It may be time to step up the wardrobe David! I’m a T shirt guy too, but if you wanted to invest in a few sets of decent stuff for reporting of this type, it might be a good next step!
Didn't need to say "for this long"
cool!🏁
I hope they put the engines and memorabilia back, it used to be where the retail space is now. What a shame to put that stuff in a warehouse so they could sell t-shirts. Boo! And get the Miller cars back on display, like Duray's front drive and Lou Meyer's #14.
I miss the Offy "Petting Zoo"! I've seen pictures and drawings of those engines but to actually be able to touch the pieces was a rare treat!
Indy cars arent rear engined, they are rear mid engined.
I can't think of any front engined Indycars either! They all had the engine between the front and rear wheels. Front mid engined cars and side mid-engined, the 1967 turbine.
Nothing left of the old speedway. No reason to ever go there again. That age is gone now. Thanks Penske, I wish I never heard your name.
Then why are you here?
Actually, the cars, the pictures and the stories remain from the old speedway. That’s the reason the museum exists.
Well.........byyyye
You clearly are living in some time warp. I talked to a guy working in the carpentry shop and he said Roger is spending a ton of money making every part of that property work better....
They rebuilt the actual racetrack and grandstands since Penske took over??
Lemme guess, go wading through the infield wetlands and gather old bricks for a "repave"??
Give us all a break and screw off with your piss poor attitude. Some of us are here for a reason, fandom. You are here to simply troll. Back under the bridge...
Oh thank god I was worried it was closing for good when clicking in this video