BBC High Quality Extended Coverage .The 1986 Cheltenham Gold Cup (Dawn Run).Racing Legends.

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  • @Nijinsky26
    @Nijinsky26 Місяць тому +12

    They used to say that People remembered where they where when JF Kennedy got shot. Well, I will always remember where I was when Dawn Run won the Gold Cup. I was standing in a Pub in Cashel. Standing Room only. Packed like Sardines in front of the Telly. Tensions and Nerves where hight throughout the Race. When she was headed, there was a sad, dissapointed Mood and then , when she started to fight back, there was screaming and shouting that became a continuous Roar and I still have the Impression that the whole Building shook. One of my 10 most emotional Moments in Racing. Everytime I see the Race, I’m back in that Pub. Thanks for Uploading

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +2

      Great memories @Nijinsky26.Yes I had to upload the Wayward Lad Video Yesterday for a bit of Parity.What a Race that was.

    • @tumble927
      @tumble927 Місяць тому +2

      i was at the course, and didnt see much....but the atmosphere was unbelieveable. Watched the recording later, and many times since.
      And the commentary.....the mare's beginning to get up.......and then the iconic hat in the air footage....

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +1

      @tumble927 Yes it’s absolutely brilliant

    • @Nijinsky26
      @Nijinsky26 Місяць тому +2

      @@tumble927 one of the great moments in racing history

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому

      It definitely was.

  • @marcus237
    @marcus237 Місяць тому +7

    Thank you for this its wonderful. I was there. It feels like very innocent times looking back

  • @ericbullock6553
    @ericbullock6553 Місяць тому +10

    Those voices instantly take me back to when I was 11❤

  • @patrickmccabe3786
    @patrickmccabe3786 Місяць тому +4

    Remember being there backed the great mare at 5/1❤.

  • @hambletonhorsewhisperer
    @hambletonhorsewhisperer Місяць тому +5

    Childhood memories have come flooding back after watching this.

  • @tumble927
    @tumble927 Місяць тому +3

    Brilliant horses. Brilliant memories.
    Also one of my personal favourites as well as the bigger names, Von Trappe. First came to my attention a cheltenham non festival race, when he came to a standstill after jumping badly, Dunwoody got him going again, although tailed off, and he caught up, worked his way through the field, flew up the hill, and ended up 2nd. Then went on to win the Coral golden hurdle in March, His jumping issues after that became a bit legendary, but still was great to see him in a Gold cup.
    I've looked for the footage of the 'standstill' race over the years, but haven't found it.

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +2

      Let me check that Race out for you.

    • @tumble927
      @tumble927 Місяць тому +1

      @@HorseRacingLegends Thanks for that. Up until a few years ago, I'd always remembered the horse that won it, but now some memories come and go. It'll hopefully come back. Decent chaser. It was 2 words. I've gone through the alphabet and narrowed it down to beginning with either B, D, F, G, P, R.....i think lol

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +1

      Keep at it.

    • @tumble927
      @tumble927 Місяць тому +1

      @@HorseRacingLegends I think I;ve got it... A double festival winner i believe. Glyde Court rings a bell.. Always in control till the line, but Von Trappe got within a couple of lengths.

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому

      @tumble927 Yes Glyde Court won 2 Kim Muir chases

  • @theracingdemon3141
    @theracingdemon3141 Місяць тому +4

    Thanks for uploading the build-up of this great race. Coming away from the last fence, it still looks like Wayward Lad is going to put his Cheltenham curse to rights.

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +1

      Yes never got home.

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +1

      @pauldonohoe3646 No question the hill found him out over that distance at Cheltenham.It always did.

  • @michaeltait7145
    @michaeltait7145 Місяць тому +14

    Never forget that day i bet wayward lad my favourite horse brings back happy memories when bookies was for horses and dogs football not all this virtual racing and gaming machines they have now

  • @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
    @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Місяць тому +5

    Nice ! Look at the quality in that field !!.. mwah 👌Superb !!
    👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @ronniemurtagh1786
    @ronniemurtagh1786 Місяць тому +3

    Fantastic video, fantastic memories! I felt for Mark Dwyer on Forgive and Forget, he is a class act but Dawn Run was a legend!!!

  • @Stevem-fn9we
    @Stevem-fn9we Місяць тому +2

    So many class horses in the race that year

  • @davidwills3107
    @davidwills3107 Місяць тому +3

    Epic race. Thanks a lot for posting 🙏👍

  • @MartinRainer-hi1bp
    @MartinRainer-hi1bp Місяць тому +2

    Was there that day. Unbelievable atmosphere. Hairs still stand up on my neck, watching it now.

  • @Nijinsky26
    @Nijinsky26 Місяць тому +2

    It just occurred to me this morning, that what Dawn Run did, will never be repeated. Winning the Champion Hurdle and the Gold Cup, because back then, the gap between Hurdlers and Chasers was much much bigger then today. Nowadays Horses can switch back and forth. That wouldn’t have been possible then

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому

      Yes I suppose one day it will be done but we might have a long wait.

  • @marcpage1925
    @marcpage1925 Місяць тому +4

    jonjo asking for a jump two out was pure theatre and magic, a great jockey

  • @robertwilliams9234
    @robertwilliams9234 Місяць тому +3

    The coverage was so much better then

  • @athoms6420
    @athoms6420 Місяць тому +6

    One of the great races, Dawn Run is one of racings legendary horses, what a shame she had an owner that didn't cherish her!

  • @eirenuaireland
    @eirenuaireland Місяць тому +4

    I remember it vividly. Rushing home from school on a 🚲 in absolute excitement. She was a tough battler

  • @robertquinsey9969
    @robertquinsey9969 Місяць тому +2

    Great memories HRL,it gets better everytime i see it.Great rides from Jonjo and Brad.Jonjo was inspired.

  • @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
    @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Місяць тому +4

    I mentioned earlier I’d read the book on Dessie , one of the funniest comments in the book is when David Ellsworth was talking about Combs Ditch , he said “ he was a complicated horse , he wouldn’t pass a parked car if it was on his right “.. 😅 and if you watch some of his races he DOES tend to be placed in the finish to accommodate that quirk ! 😂
    👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +2

      Yes he was some Animal.Nearly turned over Burrough Hill Lad at Kempton.

    • @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
      @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Місяць тому +1

      @ yup that’s right ✊
      👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @kevinkenny6975
      @kevinkenny6975 Місяць тому +1

      I started following Combs Ditch after it beat Brown Chamberlain. Very underrated. Not a cheltenham horse though

    • @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
      @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Місяць тому

      @ 😀pure character that horse 🐎 👌
      👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @mabbrey
    @mabbrey Місяць тому +2

    observe was a great fave of mine popped up at 16-1 in the foxhunters a year later

  • @johnbatch9276
    @johnbatch9276 Місяць тому +1

    I was 36 at the time and watched it with my dad unforgettable and not a bad horse in that line up von trappe was a particular favourite of mine

  • @kevinkenny6975
    @kevinkenny6975 Місяць тому +2

    You forget what a high class field this was.

  • @markgidley7089
    @markgidley7089 Місяць тому +2

    Great Race and only wish that Wayward Lad had won .Remember when he first was sent down south to Ascot and the buzz around him as a future star .Won some great races but would have liked to see his name on the Gold Cup .

  • @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
    @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Місяць тому +3

    I would never try to diminish the race Dawn Run ran there , it was a unique and astonishing achievement.. but I must’ve been one of the few folk in these British Isles hoarsely cheering on my fancy Wayward Lad, that hill and that last cruel 2f robbed him of his greatest triumph I feel , he was imperious at 3m on a flat track like Kempton on good ground , but take nothing away from the ill fated great mare 🙏
    👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +1

      Yes I don’t he ever won at Cheltenham

    • @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
      @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Місяць тому +1

      @ surprising that for a horse of his quality eh
      👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +1

      Dickinson in hindsight should have done a One Man and ran him in The Champion Chase.

  • @unionjakjakson
    @unionjakjakson Місяць тому +1

    Looking back, all those years and watching this, i cant help feeling that they never got the best out of "Wayward Lad ". He hated being in front. They said he was a doubtful stayer, but i think they just hit the front too early on him. If they had waited with him, until the shadow of the post, they would have won more races, & crucial races . But hey ho, all history now. Lovely to watch, never had much money back then, but swear to God, it was a better time than now.

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому

      I think the simple truth is he was better on a flat track

    • @proudman6598
      @proudman6598 Місяць тому +2

      ​@HorseRacingLegends I've often thought had John joe been on Wayward Lad that day, glad he wasn't I backed the little mare.

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому

      @proudman6598 No I doubt if it would have made a difference.

  • @terrydickinson3296
    @terrydickinson3296 Місяць тому +1

    I remember the year after , the wayward lad team were fuming when the race was put back allowing the snow and sleet get into the ground.

  • @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
    @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Місяць тому +5

    These days half of them would’ve dodged Dawn Run and ran in the Ryanair.. 🤦‍♂️
    👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @WilliamDelahunt-b1l
    @WilliamDelahunt-b1l Місяць тому +1

    My favourite horse was run and skip

  • @joannetyrrell364
    @joannetyrrell364 Місяць тому +3

    Class horses( I felt for poor Wayward Lad). And class jockeys. No unsightly bumping or grinding. Where did all the finesse go?

  • @iancruise6927
    @iancruise6927 Місяць тому +3

    Love Dawn Run. Was gutted that her owner made her run in a race she didn’t need to run in. I did want Wayward Lad to win this though

  • @tonygarforth539
    @tonygarforth539 Місяць тому +1

    she would be 200.1 in running 2 out today thats when racing was the best era

  • @coling1724
    @coling1724 Місяць тому +1

    I'd like to know who's voice it was that did the betting show for the race?.

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому

      I’m sure it’s Len Martin.

    • @coling1724
      @coling1724 Місяць тому +1

      @@HorseRacingLegends Thanks for that,i don't recall him,my Fav was John Tyrrell,loved his voice.

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +1

      @coling1724 Yes a total legend.

  • @shaunlynch-u6x
    @shaunlynch-u6x Місяць тому +3

    I had quite a big bet for me £20 on wayward lad and was counting my winnings over the last 😡

  • @theracingdemon3141
    @theracingdemon3141 Місяць тому +1

    Have you got Dawn Run's Cheltenham prep, the Holsten Distributors Chase, where she got rid of Jonjo at the top of the hill? I think it is up elsewhere on UA-cam but the quality is very poor.

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому

      Was that not Tony Mullins she got ride of ?

    • @theracingdemon3141
      @theracingdemon3141 Місяць тому +1

      @@HorseRacingLegends Ah yes, Mullins was riding Dawn Run that afternoon.

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +1

      @theracingdemon3141 This is a better version.ua-cam.com/video/_VTvfnZRLzc/v-deo.htmlsi=EVTnYI0OBIGlqCid

    • @theracingdemon3141
      @theracingdemon3141 Місяць тому

      @@pauldonohoe3646 Just looked up who rode Dawn Run in the French Champion Hurdle. It was a French jockey: Michel Chirol.

  • @invisiblemaninvisibleman2097
    @invisiblemaninvisibleman2097 Місяць тому +3

    Wayward lad should never have been 8-1

    • @duncanholding7636
      @duncanholding7636 Місяць тому +1

      It was probably a tad over priced but not that much... Pre race it was probably correct it was 4th favourite... Run and Skip had a great season, forgive N forget was the champion and of course there was Dawn run

  • @seamusdurcan3774
    @seamusdurcan3774 Місяць тому +1

    Fantastic video well done

  • @tommyhughes2264
    @tommyhughes2264 Місяць тому

    That's what you call a crowd.Don't see that anymore.

    • @robertwilliams9234
      @robertwilliams9234 Місяць тому

      You see the big crowds now but all most of them want is to get as drunk as they can and be idiots

  • @waqarkhan25
    @waqarkhan25 Місяць тому +2

    Paddy Mullian was bitter about the jockey change he want to keep his son Tony Mullian but that one mistake ever body send if paddy want to win the Chaltenham gold he ned to decide on the jockey because he won't qith Tony y Mullian on bord so Cham Hill choose Jonjoe O Nile to ride dawn run to win the Chaltenham gold cup even to Paddy last Breath he was still bitter about this choise of jockey

    • @HorseRacingLegends
      @HorseRacingLegends  Місяць тому +1

      Very sad of course but She would never had won without Jonjo on board that day.

    • @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
      @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Місяць тому +1

      @@HorseRacingLegends 💯 agree 👍
      👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @waqarkhan25
      @waqarkhan25 Місяць тому +1

      @@HorseRacingLegends thanks for agreeing

    • @waqarkhan25
      @waqarkhan25 Місяць тому +1

      @@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering thanks for agreeing

  • @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
    @jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Місяць тому +1

    Speaking of which , he mentioned The Duke having won the Triumph with Solar Cloud .. that race was HEAVING with near 30 runners .. due to the Fred Winter that doesn’t happen now 🤯
    👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @waqarkhan25
    @waqarkhan25 Місяць тому +1

    look at these horses then comepare to today horses those were bred for National hunt now these they have flat bred horses which is goid but it's dose take the gloss away from what we could have seen

  • @george474747
    @george474747 Місяць тому +2

    Bit worrisome seeing people jostling and crowding around behind Dawn Run in the aftermath. Never stand behind a horse.
    Was that normal back then? I thought the jockey looked concerned.

  • @CONSIDERABLYMORE1
    @CONSIDERABLYMORE1 Місяць тому +4

    I hate the way these days the likes of Racing TV always show replays, often at the expense of watching the post race celebrations. Why not show the replays afterwards, like the BBC did here?