I hope this was your username and pic before seeing the video although I'm loving it either way. The K7 is such a perfect design for the time period that was its heyday. It's not quite as sleek and rounded as TNG era Federation aesthetics dictate but instead has a delightful almost retro look to them. It has this atompunk vibe to it. The idea of the model spinning around on wires rather than being purely CGI. It's from an older era in ST but still makes my imagination kick into high warp!
Ah station K7, Not to be confused with station K9 where Starfleet trains it's pet companions for personnel onboard starships. Fun Fact: Spot was a ensign and had degrees in Quantum Superposition and uncertainty principles.
In the Star Trek comics, K-7 exists in the Kelvin Timeline where after the events of Star Trek '09, Spock travelled to the station to find Cyrano Jones and request transport to Romulus to discover the Empire's plans for eliminating the surviving Vulcans.
I would like to see a different K-class station to build out the rest of the universe without retreading the same stuff from other Treks. There’s a galaxy of stories and places, why keep going to the same few?
I would expect starfleet to have construction ships akin to stellaris where the ship can fabricate almost all the components and hull pieces and just needs raw or processed material to be shipped in by bulk
We hear about this in passing a few times. Ships transporting "Industrial Replicators" for one thing or another. They indicate they are huge things so you might be right.
I imagine that the Federation, as a general policy, would like to encourage the civilian economy when possible. This might be particularly important in politically sensitive regions like someplace so close to the Klingon border. Starfleet could oversee and aid in K7's construction, but not directly build it.
I always sort of expected Star Trek's star bases to be more like DS9 able to take a lot of damage and deal out a lot of damage but whenever we see space stations they lose very quickly even thought they are soo much bigger then ships
🖖😎👍Very totally cool and very nicely greatly wonderfully well done and nicely informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on the K-7 Space Stations and the reason for its purpose on all their various different functions,facilities and abilities and duties required of them; A job very nicely fabulously well done indeed Sir!👌.
Another great vid, Ric! i would love love love to see a movie or bigger feature with K7 as the centerpiece. Such an underrated source of small-stakes drama and scli-fi. Maybe during its time as a neutral trade hub for all things illegal and fun.
To insure the lasting value of a station, it needs to be attached to a planet or star system that is "up and coming" or a bustling hub of some kind of activity.
Some stations get interesting stories, like the one that was lost in space and time, only to end up the far-past, as well as Drozana Station, which is under Ferengi management, and pretty run-down. Other stations just sit there doing there thing. Doing it so well, in fact, that you never hear about them, in much the same way you likely never heard of the _Olympic_ . But chances are you heard of her younger sister, _Titanic_ , because something did go very wrong there. You may or may not have ever heard of their younger sister, Britannic . It all depends.
Aside from the Tribble connection, I always just loved this station design. Starfleet’s starbases are cool, but I loved the triangular spread so much vs. mostly a saucer with a tower under it
Always questioned that decision about B5. Leave it in place, and it's a known quantity in orbit around Epsilon 3. Blow it up, and it's moving pieces throughout the system.
@@rfletch62agreed; should’ve been disassembled and then at least somewhat reassembled elsewhere as a museum, or left intact entirely as a historical site with more…sensitive equipment stripped out
Whether I decide a book is alternate reality or not depends on how well it is written and how well the characters and history conform to my vision for the Trek universe. For instance I consider the various 'Vulcan's...' books to be canon so far as I am concerned. I like the idea of Lieutenant Picard spending the day of Spock's betrothal-wedding with Admiral McCoy and mistaking Saavik for an elf. The depiction of the internecine conflict with the Romulan Empire is extremely well realised also, very much the kind of thing you would expect a civilisation of Dark Elves to get up to!
Given the civilian nature, station function, and layout, it seems like there should be a LOT more windows. Especially along the upper "arm" surfaces where the crew quarters were and in the saucer bits where shops and such were.
@@UGNAvalon The same franchise that doesn't realize active protection against self-propelled weapons and thermoelectric oe ablative materials are more energy efficient than a shield meant to block everything from all directions at all times. hardly employees guidance for same. Has only now realized that virtual launch systems are a thing. Still hasn't grasped the defense onion. And grossly underarms their ships for the size scale. And that's just off the top of my head and I'm neither navy nor air force.
@@johnsteiner3417 I like to think of it as "look how the Mayans mastered astronomy before metalworking or the wheel" - cultural development is weird that way, esp when speculating on tech that didn't exist at the time of production. 😅 Also, Shhh!!, you're not supposed to overthink the space magic! 🤫😉
I first confused K-7 with Drozana Station again but that cleared up after you mentioned Starfleet retaking the station in the Online continuity. On that point, could you make a video on that latter station? At least if there's anything to mention in alpha or beta canon that is.
I would like to dive deeper into these ones: The colonization of Mars between 2063 to 2103 The project Moon, The project Terra Nova, the project friendship one The other missions about the DY-100 Founding of bigger starbases Groups of people left earth for separate live arrangements
Elite Force 2 turned it into such a cooy if the Mos Eisley cantina that when you are there, they even reenact a scene from it if you listen to NPC chatter.
Personally i can see the UFP at some point not refiting these stations anymore and either running until a given date and then decommissioning them. Or possibly "selling" them to nearby systems to use as an outpost or something. I dont see any of these stations being in use by the UFP past 2340s
Not gonna' lie, I would have preferred if K-7 stayed with its 23rd century interior design in STO. I gotta' go all the way over to K-13 for my 23rd century fix 😆
Man...I looked it up, and K7 stations apparently have no weapons according to multiple sources. Kind of disappointing, but I can't deny that it makes a kind of sense _not_ to arm a station!
Ensign Sherman was a lower decks crew member on board the USS Corsair, and he won a raffle to have the next planet discovered named after him. Digging in to his personnel file, he was later assigned to the USS Enterprise, under Captain April, as Away Team Security, and met a tragic demise on Risa when he offered a Horgon to a trio of Nausicans that took him up on the offer. This is why Nausicans are only allowed on one small island on Risa.
I never put together that it wasn't Mudd with the tribbles. Also: What is up with Starfleet assigning commanders to stations who don't have the rank to enforce docking and traffic instructions? Is that just SOP?
it proberply got replaced and scrapped man i love to see more diffrent space stations design in the federation i dont belive a goverment that big only build mushrooms space space stations
Given the proximity to Starbase 133, it’s really not in deep space. Is the “deep space” designation given to stations not under direct Starfleet control, like DS9?
The Klingons would assign two of the old motion picture battle cruisers play patrol the solar system and protect the planet in the station why the federation put in its best heavy fighters in the K7 and the most powerful armament the federation also had an additional squadron of heavy fighters located on the planet the Klingons did 2 playing on Saturdays additional battle cruisers what's the crew of the battle cruisers bicycle live on the planet they're from there eventually the federation would assign an old how old reliant class ship 2 patrol the system
Hey there. I did the first "first" on this video. I'm 40. No real reason. I happened to notice the video was up and there weren't any comments yet. I haven't watched it yet, but it's my understanding that videos with more comments/interaction, get higher chances of being directed to others. I don't know what's in the video, but the least I can do is comment something, and commenting "first" is accurate. It can also be ignored, like everything else on the internet. Have a wonderful day.
WOW they changed cannon or none cannon... lol still the same like st tng relic October 10, 1992 kirk is alive vs star trek generations November 18, 1994 kirk is dead... LOL
K-7 got route 66'd and that is possibly one of the funniest and most realistic things to happen
I like the analogy
Both apt and funny!
Hey look he is talking about me. :^)
Update your consoles and get some defenses, for gawds sake. D:
Hey you look good considering your age!
I hope this was your username and pic before seeing the video although I'm loving it either way. The K7 is such a perfect design for the time period that was its heyday.
It's not quite as sleek and rounded as TNG era Federation aesthetics dictate but instead has a delightful almost retro look to them. It has this atompunk vibe to it. The idea of the model spinning around on wires rather than being purely CGI.
It's from an older era in ST but still makes my imagination kick into high warp!
Ah station K7, Not to be confused with station K9 where Starfleet trains it's pet companions for personnel onboard starships.
Fun Fact: Spot was a ensign and had degrees in Quantum Superposition and uncertainty principles.
The Dolphins and Whales got their education there before moving onto ship postings.
Caitians are advised to steer clear of station K9
Right off the bat, a colorful map.
If you ever wonder what happens to outdated stations. Packleds
😂
And they would name it "Space station Packled".
Ferigi
@@tomhenry897 Them as well.
So they're now unholy mobile fortresses?
In the Star Trek comics, K-7 exists in the Kelvin Timeline where after the events of Star Trek '09, Spock travelled to the station to find Cyrano Jones and request transport to Romulus to discover the Empire's plans for eliminating the surviving Vulcans.
I love to see K7 in Strange New Worlds.
I think we all ready have
I would like to see a different K-class station to build out the rest of the universe without retreading the same stuff from other Treks. There’s a galaxy of stories and places, why keep going to the same few?
@@silmarian Corporate Greed
@silmarian we haven't gotten the same few, every series we've gotten has gone mostly to new (to us) places.
I would expect starfleet to have construction ships akin to stellaris where the ship can fabricate almost all the components and hull pieces and just needs raw or processed material to be shipped in by bulk
The Stellaris Star Trek mod bases their construction ship designs on the ones from Star Trek: Armada
We hear about this in passing a few times. Ships transporting "Industrial Replicators" for one thing or another. They indicate they are huge things so you might be right.
I imagine that the Federation, as a general policy, would like to encourage the civilian economy when possible. This might be particularly important in politically sensitive regions like someplace so close to the Klingon border. Starfleet could oversee and aid in K7's construction, but not directly build it.
Fun fact: they used the same voice as the tramcar voice for announcements for the transport system, as they do at beach boardwalks.
These videos are great to watch while stoned, everything is so interesting ontop of my own love for Trek
I really like the addition of the symbol when dipping into beta canon.
I always sort of expected Star Trek's star bases to be more like DS9 able to take a lot of damage and deal out a lot of damage but whenever we see space stations they lose very quickly even thought they are soo much bigger then ships
DS9 is kind of an oddball of UFP stations. Cardassian made, etc. For all we know, it's pretty weak.
Starfleet doesn't really arm their space stations. Even Spacedock didn't have any weapons till the Breen attacked Earth.
🖖😎👍Very totally cool and very nicely greatly wonderfully well done and nicely informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on the K-7 Space Stations and the reason for its purpose on all their various different functions,facilities and abilities and duties required of them; A job very nicely fabulously well done indeed Sir!👌.
Impressive thought going into that design.
Achilles class please. :3 And, yea, more stations if possible. The Starbase and stations are fascinating.
God I hope we get some k7 in the upcoming treks 🤗
How about a new series? Deep Space K-7. I'd watch it. :)
Imagine a DS9 vibe, only happening in TOS era.
Whereas I was thinking a sit-com set on this station in the days of its 'faded glory' could be fun.
Another great vid, Ric! i would love love love to see a movie or bigger feature with K7 as the centerpiece. Such an underrated source of small-stakes drama and scli-fi. Maybe during its time as a neutral trade hub for all things illegal and fun.
What luck! Just last week I found a fan animation/mockumentary about the Battle of Deep Space K-7!
To insure the lasting value of a station, it needs to be attached to a planet or star system that is "up and coming" or a bustling hub of some kind of activity.
Some stations get interesting stories, like the one that was lost in space and time, only to end up the far-past, as well as Drozana Station, which is under Ferengi management, and pretty run-down. Other stations just sit there doing there thing. Doing it so well, in fact, that you never hear about them, in much the same way you likely never heard of the _Olympic_ . But chances are you heard of her younger sister, _Titanic_ , because something did go very wrong there. You may or may not have ever heard of their younger sister, Britannic . It all depends.
Aside from the Tribble connection, I always just loved this station design. Starfleet’s starbases are cool, but I loved the triangular spread so much vs. mostly a saucer with a tower under it
Huh. And here I was thinkin' K7 went down the same journey to irrelevance and eventual destruction as a "hazard to navigation" that B5 did.
Always questioned that decision about B5. Leave it in place, and it's a known quantity in orbit around Epsilon 3. Blow it up, and it's moving pieces throughout the system.
@@rfletch62agreed; should’ve been disassembled and then at least somewhat reassembled elsewhere as a museum, or left intact entirely as a historical site with more…sensitive equipment stripped out
Love anything K-7 related. I'd live there no problem.
I remember mixing up K-7 with Drozana in STO because they were kind of near by each other XD
Great video Rick! Would love to see you do a top ten Star Trek books
When STO launched (14 years ago), K-7 was one of my favorite places to go visit.
Whether I decide a book is alternate reality or not depends on how well it is written and how well the characters and history conform to my vision for the Trek universe.
For instance I consider the various 'Vulcan's...' books to be canon so far as I am concerned. I like the idea of Lieutenant Picard spending the day of Spock's betrothal-wedding with Admiral McCoy and mistaking Saavik for an elf. The depiction of the internecine conflict with the Romulan Empire is extremely well realised also, very much the kind of thing you would expect a civilisation of Dark Elves to get up to!
Given the civilian nature, station function, and layout, it seems like there should be a LOT more windows. Especially along the upper "arm" surfaces where the crew quarters were and in the saucer bits where shops and such were.
In STO K-7 is my main base. It has everything you need. And being close to my home system of Aldebaran it's ideal.
Crew quarters next to the rail line. That must be awful.
That should be where you put a brig, not crew quarters.
@@copter2000 Old school elevated trains were the bane of apartments of major cities that had them.
You’d expect a couple centuries of scientific development to at least include sound dampening systems for transit lines, right? 🤷♂️
@@UGNAvalon The same franchise that doesn't realize active protection against self-propelled weapons and thermoelectric oe ablative materials are more energy efficient than a shield meant to block everything from all directions at all times. hardly employees guidance for same. Has only now realized that virtual launch systems are a thing. Still hasn't grasped the defense onion. And grossly underarms their ships for the size scale.
And that's just off the top of my head and I'm neither navy nor air force.
@@johnsteiner3417 I like to think of it as "look how the Mayans mastered astronomy before metalworking or the wheel" - cultural development is weird that way, esp when speculating on tech that didn't exist at the time of production. 😅
Also, Shhh!!, you're not supposed to overthink the space magic!
🤫😉
K7 stations have Troubles with Tribbles
I first confused K-7 with Drozana Station again but that cleared up after you mentioned Starfleet retaking the station in the Online continuity. On that point, could you make a video on that latter station? At least if there's anything to mention in alpha or beta canon that is.
You take that back about Tribbles being vermin
A good spot for a Monastery.
I would like to dive deeper into these ones:
The colonization of Mars between 2063 to 2103
The project Moon, The project Terra Nova, the project friendship one
The other missions about the DY-100
Founding of bigger starbases
Groups of people left earth for separate live arrangements
Elite Force 2 turned it into such a cooy if the Mos Eisley cantina that when you are there, they even reenact a scene from it if you listen to NPC chatter.
Straight away, it's close to another superpower.
I love the Star Trek New Frontier books.
I always thought that DS9 grew out of someone in the TNG writing room asking "I wonder what a show set on K7 would look like?"
What about Tribble trouble , not just the trouble with Tribbles ?
SCIENCE!!!
Personally i can see the UFP at some point not refiting these stations anymore and either running until a given date and then decommissioning them. Or possibly "selling" them to nearby systems to use as an outpost or something.
I dont see any of these stations being in use by the UFP past 2340s
K-7, in orbit or in the nearby area around the perpetually starving _Sherman's Planet_
Not gonna' lie, I would have preferred if K-7 stayed with its 23rd century interior design in STO. I gotta' go all the way over to K-13 for my 23rd century fix 😆
It was kinda like Babylon 5 before there was a Babylon 5.
Man...I looked it up, and K7 stations apparently have no weapons according to multiple sources. Kind of disappointing, but I can't deny that it makes a kind of sense _not_ to arm a station!
The Federation population of Sherman's Planet is entirely human? That doesn't seem likely...
Also...who's Sherman?
Ensign Sherman was a lower decks crew member on board the USS Corsair, and he won a raffle to have the next planet discovered named after him.
Digging in to his personnel file, he was later assigned to the USS Enterprise, under Captain April, as Away Team Security, and met a tragic demise on Risa when he offered a Horgon to a trio of Nausicans that took him up on the offer.
This is why Nausicans are only allowed on one small island on Risa.
I never put together that it wasn't Mudd with the tribbles.
Also: What is up with Starfleet assigning commanders to stations who don't have the rank to enforce docking and traffic instructions? Is that just SOP?
Before taking that footage from the game i suggest you to use nvidia sharpening and sharpening + it will look way better.
If K7 is lucky, they will discover a wormhole to the unknown Epsylon-Quadrant nearby. XD
So colonizing with a shopping mall?
Captain Calhoun should have been made Cannon!
Feels like a terrible idea to leave the station with zero defenses…seems like the marquis could make use of that type of station too
What station was used for Vanguard?
And when you let a K7 station really waste away you eventually get Drozana.
what civilian branch were they getting these crews from?
I presume station K9 was near Sirius..
2:25 what is with the symbol in the top left corner of the screen ?!?!?
Looks like beta, greek. Symbolized the discussion of beta canon
it proberply got replaced and scrapped man i love to see more diffrent space stations design in the federation i dont belive a goverment that big only build mushrooms space space stations
or 4) an accident causes it to self detonate. star trek likes doing that.
Given the proximity to Starbase 133, it’s really not in deep space. Is the “deep space” designation given to stations not under direct Starfleet control, like DS9?
So for a time it became a wretched hive of scum and villainy! Interesting.
Where's "Dog Station" (K9)? ;-D
At Sirius, of course
Doesn't that dome look like the far point station Alien in Star Trek The Next Gen.
Use the facilities? That is what happens when you eat overripe road kill.
Just a standard design
Screw the Picard show, Icheb should've stayed right where he was. What an insulting end for a good character.
Worst place to put the reactor! It should be where the shuttle bays are. Just sayin'!
The Klingons would assign two of the old motion picture battle cruisers play patrol the solar system and protect the planet in the station why the federation put in its best heavy fighters in the K7 and the most powerful armament the federation also had an additional squadron of heavy fighters located on the planet the Klingons did 2 playing on Saturdays additional battle cruisers what's the crew of the battle cruisers bicycle live on the planet they're from there eventually the federation would assign an old how old reliant class ship 2 patrol the system
Why do people do the "first" thing, attention i guess.
Sad, isn’t it. Almost (but not quite), as sad as people who post the “wake up babe…” comment.
i often assume they're usually young when they do it
This is social media, isnt pretty much the entire internet about getting attention?
Hey there. I did the first "first" on this video. I'm 40. No real reason. I happened to notice the video was up and there weren't any comments yet. I haven't watched it yet, but it's my understanding that videos with more comments/interaction, get higher chances of being directed to others. I don't know what's in the video, but the least I can do is comment something, and commenting "first" is accurate. It can also be ignored, like everything else on the internet. Have a wonderful day.
Engagement comments supporting creators they enjoy, mostly. Same as most repeat jokes or "algorithm" mentions.
No no, Itcheb is still on that station, STP is just a deranged splinter universe that died off never to exist in the actual timeline. *wink wink*
As always Discovery added nothing of value.
Star Trek Picard takes place in the Prime Universe. Nothing that happened in it is canon.
WOW they changed cannon or none cannon... lol still the same like st tng relic October 10, 1992 kirk is alive vs star trek generations November 18, 1994 kirk is dead... LOL
Ty for the video and LLAP!
First!
Dang it, beat me by 14 seconds xD
@@jonleonard1555 fight the king first for true first
6:51 🚀
Frist! King me!
owner of youtube actually
You shall be known forth as Patient Zero.
You are second!!! Lmao 😂😂😂
Slow clapping
I've always felt that K-9 was in many ways the original DS9 for it's time.
8:06 too soon