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  • Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
  • Mars is the home to Utopia Planitia which produces the most of Starfleet and the United Federation of Planets' Starships. It also houses several other cities such as Ares and has had a history as long as Earth's.
    Picard Timeline Videos
    part 01: • Star Trek Picard's Tim...
    part 02: • Star Trek Picard's Tim...
    00:00 Introduction
    00:24 Ares IV
    01:32 First Colonies
    04:08 Martian War
    04:56 Terra Prime
    05:49 Romulan War
    06:08 UFP Member
    08:30 Utopia Planitia
    09:17 The Fall of Mars
    10:56 Conclusion
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    Star Trek Online developed by Cryptic Studios and Perfect World.
    Star Trek Picard/Strange New Worlds/Enterprise/Voyager/Deep Space Nine/Discovery and The Next Generation are all owned by Paramount Pictures/CBS and distributed by CBS.
    This Video is for critical purposes with commentary.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 170

  • @CelticCubby
    @CelticCubby Рік тому +83

    It would be nice to see more about Mars in Star Trek.

    • @rubaiyat300
      @rubaiyat300 Рік тому +6

      I'd love to see HOW humans retook the stars after First Contact starting with LEO, the Moon, Mars, etc. That era remains so poorly investigated.

    • @williammitchell4417
      @williammitchell4417 Рік тому +1

      We do know that NCC-1701D was built above Utopia Planetia

  • @charlestownsend9280
    @charlestownsend9280 Рік тому +53

    It's interesting that in most scifi Mars becomes a world for factories, mining and manufacturing.

    • @grimslayer8499
      @grimslayer8499 Рік тому +2

      Besides Star Trek and Warhammer 40k, what sci-fi universes have Mars as a factory world?

    • @vonshroom2068
      @vonshroom2068 Рік тому +11

      @@grimslayer8499 Babylon 5 and a plethora of other scify and scify-fantasy stories.
      Its simply due to Jupiter and Saturn are considered to far away and mars being used as a staging point to colonise the solar system and all that fun.

    • @vonshroom2068
      @vonshroom2068 Рік тому +9

      The silly bit is that the Doom franchise has it right when it comes to the mars moons being more usefull then the actual planet but thats what they end up doing on saturn and jupiter as you can't land on either of em.

    • @3Rayfire
      @3Rayfire Рік тому +6

      Mass Effect as well, Mars is closer to the Asteroid Belt and therefore is the first port available for the raw materials that could be extracted from there.

    • @ApolloCDR
      @ApolloCDR Рік тому +5

      The Expanse not only has Mars as an industrial base but is it's own Autonomous and sovereign world apart from Earth.

  • @violetlight1548
    @violetlight1548 Рік тому +40

    I hope this becomes the first in a series about the rest of the Sol system in Star Trek. I know there was at least a space station around Jupiter, and cities (and even a lake?) on Luna. Hope to hear more!

    • @henrylockhart495
      @henrylockhart495 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/EDfSUiZSEZo/v-deo.html
      Here you go! He did a video a bit back about the whole sol system.

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 Рік тому +1

      very much would love to see Luna as it developed....

    • @3Rayfire
      @3Rayfire Рік тому +2

      That's Lake Armstrong.

    • @fenrisvermundr2516
      @fenrisvermundr2516 Рік тому +4

      Venus as I recall was made habitable and is home to over 2 Billion. Although this is in beta canon material.

  • @igncom1
    @igncom1 Рік тому +20

    Mars making fleets of flying saucers.
    Huh.

  • @kaneo1
    @kaneo1 Рік тому +24

    "It wouldn't be until much later that Mars would see the beginnings of the Adeptus Mechanicus."

  • @BoisegangGaming
    @BoisegangGaming Рік тому +5

    It's likely that Utopia Planitia was founded prior to colonization because it's easier to set up space and orbital infrastructure than planetary stuff; it could have served as a hub for most of the early colonists that would head down to the surface in shifts until it was suited for permanent habitation.

  • @jacara1981
    @jacara1981 Рік тому +31

    I like to think of it as utopia planitia outpost or base was built in 2069, while the Colony was founded in 2103. Similar things have happened on Earth before when a outpost later became a colony or town. They have 2 founding dates.

    • @shanenolan5625
      @shanenolan5625 Рік тому +8

      Yes , discovery or settlement. , and official colonisation, or a colonial government. , are different and you must begin farming or food cultivation. . And sanction from ukur home government. Take the moon . First men on the moon and an established base . Or a future colonial settlement. Will all gave different dates and two haven't happened yet

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +2

      Exactly. If we ever later properly colonise the Antarctic, they’d say the same about the bases which are currently only manned a few months a year.

    • @danielkorladis7869
      @danielkorladis7869 5 місяців тому +1

      Agreed, it could be that some sort of intermittently occupied colony or mining station or something was built on Utopia Planitia, and later selected as the best place for shipyard facilities (as you mention, governments do this all the time, often choosing to scale up a facility they already have rather than build one from scratch). In-universe, the shipyard might trace its history to this initial humble outpost while a full-fledged permanent settlement on Mars wasn't until 2103.

  • @Scitch87
    @Scitch87 Рік тому +7

    5:41 "New Chicargo" - had me laughing. Not gonna lie.

    • @YesTHATJohnSmith
      @YesTHATJohnSmith Рік тому

      "🐔 Chicken in a 🚘 car, car won't go... THAT'S how you spell 'Chick-car-go'! Hee-yuck, yuck."
      --- The MacLean family mail-man, 1925ish.
      (Don't recollect his name .) 😉

  • @control4230
    @control4230 Рік тому +14

    Excellent video, I love seeing what happens to our own solar system in the future. Everything from the moon to Jupiter Station, there must be bases and stations all over the place that we never hear about.

  • @dc-4ever201
    @dc-4ever201 Рік тому +24

    The problem with Mars atmosphere is related to it's core being too cold and not spinning effectively to generate the field needed to hold onto it's atmosphere. In TNG they have reignited stars before, so increasing core heat of a planet should be Childs play for them given their mastery of field technology they could Induce a spin in the core increasing friction and generating the necessary gravitational field to both hold onto an atmosphere and provide some shielding effect from the solar winds, well that's my theory anyway.

    • @chrisbingley
      @chrisbingley Рік тому +9

      Gravity is generated by mass (or sci-fi magic) not by rotation. This is Newton's universal law of gravity. The Maritian gravity is low due to it's low mass, though it's reduced volume does compensate for that a bit.
      Rotating the Martian core (with sci-fi magic) could potentially help increase the strength of Mars' magentosphere and reduce surface radiation.

    • @patrickmccurry1563
      @patrickmccurry1563 Рік тому +6

      @@chrisbingley Mars' lack of magnetic filed allowed its atmosphere to dissipate FAR FAR faster than it would due only to its lower gravity. Though heating it all up to human preferred levels would speed up such gas loss too.

    • @DarthRagnarok343
      @DarthRagnarok343 Рік тому +6

      It would be easier to build a satellite array, between Mars and the Sun, that generates an artificial magnetic field to protect Mars from solar radiation.

    • @mrbuttocks6772
      @mrbuttocks6772 5 місяців тому +1

      @@chrisbingley While yes mass is the deciding factor in the strength of gravity... making something spin does affect gravity too. Though even at the scale of supermassive stars spinning doesn't really do too much. Hyperdense objects are when the effects of a spinning object upon gravity become apparent.

    • @mrbuttocks6772
      @mrbuttocks6772 5 місяців тому +1

      @@DarthRagnarok343 It would have to be up at Mars's L1 Lagrange point for it to be useful. A single magnet won't cut it for this purpose, you'd need a gigantic electric circuit or an array of potent magnets to produce the coverage needed. Mars would essentially be in the 'shadow' of the object, though only when it comes to charged(any therefor magnetic) particles. This system cannot protect against ionizing radiation, as photons cannot be directly affected by a magnetic field.

  • @stevieturner9338
    @stevieturner9338 Рік тому +2

    Thank you again Rick for the informitive video.

  • @lovipoekimo176
    @lovipoekimo176 Рік тому +8

    It wouldve been hilarious if you snuck in shots of Mars from Total Recall and Babylon 5 on there

  • @johnkonig865
    @johnkonig865 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the upload. :D

  • @walterlyzohub8112
    @walterlyzohub8112 Рік тому +3

    You did an excellent job in this video!!!! Completely consistent and believable history arc.
    Personally I think this is one of the best you made. 😁

  • @japzone
    @japzone Рік тому +11

    It is a bit of a bummer that in Star Trek media Mars is often just a footnote, with at best attention focused on a few choice facilities. Exploration of more of its history on screen would've been cool.

    • @danielkorladis7869
      @danielkorladis7869 5 місяців тому +1

      You could have an office comedy set at Utopia Planitia or something.

  • @jefferyyoung2580
    @jefferyyoung2580 Рік тому +7

    I love the star ship 🚢

  • @3Rayfire
    @3Rayfire Рік тому +1

    I think of Utopia Planitia as more the orbital facilities than the ground facilities, so the space stations over Utopia Planitia may have been established before the ground side colony.

  • @equalopportunityoffender1816
    @equalopportunityoffender1816 Рік тому +4

    It's funny how similar this is to The Expanse

  • @stevengalloway8052
    @stevengalloway8052 Рік тому +2

    👏 Thank you...

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 Рік тому +3

    Actually Mars was attacked during the earth romulan war ,the utopia shipyard newly finished and working on starfleet ships was destroyed. The ships had been pulled, and the spacedocks evacuationed, but I believe the Martian colonies had self or home rule , but they were part of the United Earth. Or under its authority. , but with federation membership, they wanted independence and were granted it and are/ were a federation council member and a key federation military industrial hub

  • @craigmorris4083
    @craigmorris4083 Рік тому +9

    I'm actually interested in what gave mars the 'artificial 1 G" gravity.

  • @90lancaster
    @90lancaster Рік тому +5

    So it's Mars' fault that Picard could interfere in the rights of sovereign Human Planets (even ones that predate the Federation) so these people left to get the hell away from the home world only for them to be followed. Yet in ST : Picard Beverly talks about worlds being forgotten, yet there is plenty that wanted to be forgotten.

    • @sergioleone3583
      @sergioleone3583 Рік тому +6

      "Picard" isn't real Star Trek, so we really don't need to concern ourselves with that drivel.

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix Рік тому

      ​@Sergio Leone have you watched it?

  • @randybentley2633
    @randybentley2633 Рік тому +2

    I wonder, with the benefit of 'Trek Tech', could we do the same thing to Titan? If we could render a breathable atmosphere, it would make a fine place for the more cold-favoring Alien species to open up Embassies and possibly some settlements. Then again, the same would hold for any methane-breathing species.

  • @krisgonynor689
    @krisgonynor689 Рік тому +4

    Mars and Mars orbit makes absolutely no sense as a place to be a major shipyard, not until TNG level tech was available. There is little water, unknown metal deposits, and no mining industry to provide raw materials. Not to mention no local sources of things like nitrogen and other rare gasses, let alone raw earth elements.
    The first ship yards will be in orbit around the moon. Low gravity, nearby resources, easy to get to. Most of the heavy structural components of a ship would be built on the moon from local materials, then easily lifted into orbit. High tech stuff would come from the earth or earth orbiting factories. (Love the Lunar Orbital Ring shipyard in "Starship Troopers").
    Later one, once we start mining the asteroids, shipyards will be built out there as well. Some asteroids are solid metal, worth trillions in today's economy, while others are made of rock and ice. Everything needed, once mining ships and industries are established in the Belt. Cere's would be the major hub, just because of it's size.

    • @TheOneTrueDragonKing
      @TheOneTrueDragonKing Рік тому +1

      Actually the first shipyards were at San Fransisco on Earth - the San Francisco Fleet Yards. Yes, planet-based.
      Hunter's Point Naval Shipyard just outside San Fran was repurposed as part of the SFFY, as was Treasure Island Naval Shipyard, which is where the simulation center for Starfleet cadets is. (The simulator vessel is known as the USS Neversail, btw, if Starfleet Command is to be believed.)
      Whole modular components (saucer section, engine nacelles) were built on-planet in naval oceanic drydocks, then lifted into orbit via carrier vehicle. These were then fitted together at space-frame drydocks in orbit, much like how the International Space Station was constructed, or like aircraft carriers in the real world.
      The San Francisco Fleet Yards is still active, and you can still see the orbital facilities in games like Star Trek Online.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Рік тому +2

    It would be interesting to see a deep dive into the future history of Augments and human genetic engineering in general. The descendents of Augments are a interesting issue, how successfully do Augment enhancements pass down to descendants? Does a individual need to have their own DNA personally optimised to get the full benefits of superhuman abilities, or will just having both parents be Augments mean that you yourself will be a Augment? Is it just the changes in the basic human template that does it, or does it have to be individually tweaked to get the 'boost' just right? There are failed Augments that only have some enhancements [Enterprise; the outcast with super hearing but otherwise a baseline Human]
    And would they have the same flaws in their design of increased aggression and a tendency towards megalomania, or was that programmed and customised in each original embryo. And considering Vulcan stewardship, would Vulcan mental techniques allow a Augment to be "sane".
    [note, I haven't seen Strange New Worlds yet, just a scene where Number One is 'outed'. Also of course there's the *big issue* of the TNG episode with the engineered children who's immune systems caused accelerated aging in Humans, including Dr Pulaski].
    Could it well be that some small percentage of Augment ancestry still provides a bit of benifit, and that many later legends of Starfleet have a Augment on their family tree and that helps explain how come they're so talented.
    A option never explored; With Human genetic engineering (except for medical correction) being banned within the Federation … what about Human groups that leave the Federation?
    Could a independent colony be set up and they don't make the same mistake that produced Khan, but instead make super Julian Bashirs as their baseline - ethical superhumans.
    A question never really answered, is there something in the basic human DNA that allowed vast improvements to be made? Other species use genetic engineering, so how come they aren't equally 'boosted' and equal to a Augment [actually a lot better, 24th century genetic engineering should be a _lot more advanced_ than 21st century pre contact Earth genetic engineering]. There's beta canon about Catlins having had Eugenics Wars in their past that mirror what Humanity went through, but that's just a entry under their species wiki.
    It's a deep topic, with a lot of contradictions and retcons.
    Although as a survivor of the horrors of the Eugenic wars in the 1990's I can tell those readers who are under 30 that it's still a sensitive topic for many people.

  • @4eversquidsisters266
    @4eversquidsisters266 Рік тому +3

    I always thought Mars is ruled under earth… didn’t know it’s even a separate governing entity altogether

  • @Nethershaw
    @Nethershaw Рік тому +2

    Do they reconcile the lore of _Star Trek: Online_ as primary canon comes along and overwrites stuff previously established there?

  • @oisinm332
    @oisinm332 Рік тому +1

    I wonder will it at least be mentioned in Discovery, that by the 32nd century it has recovered.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Рік тому +3

    The destruction of Mars must have been such a brain drain on Starfleet engineering.

  • @Syndr1
    @Syndr1 Рік тому +8

    Hi Cert, if they make a U.S.S. Musk, I'm gonna join the KDF.

    • @enisra_bowman
      @enisra_bowman Рік тому +5

      yes, but hear me out: what about a I.S.S. Musk?

    • @Syndr1
      @Syndr1 Рік тому +1

      Sigh,lol

  • @MeNoOther
    @MeNoOther Рік тому +5

    Wonder if the Picard uniform in 2385 is a special uniform, the evacuation uniform?
    Each Starfleet project seems to get a unique uniform

    • @sergioleone3583
      @sergioleone3583 Рік тому +6

      It's a non-Trek uniform as "Picard" isn't real Trek.

    • @Code_Lin
      @Code_Lin Рік тому +4

      ​@@sergioleone3583 just because you don't like the show it doesn't make it "not real trek", grow up, this is childish behavior

    • @sergioleone3583
      @sergioleone3583 Рік тому +3

      @@Code_Lin Just because I calmly stated a view many long-time Star Trek fans have does not exhibit any sort of childish behavior. Your response however does show a tendency to schoomarm condescension.

    • @MeNoOther
      @MeNoOther Рік тому +4

      @Sergio Leone Picard is a Trek show. Just like with the new Marvel shows, your hatred will be forgotten in 5 years.
      People hatred TNG, ENT, when they first came out. Now they have fans.

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon Рік тому

      @Sergio Leone Just bc you state your views calmly does not make them any less childish. :P

  • @thebaccathatchews
    @thebaccathatchews Рік тому +3

    What I don't understand is why they don't have a shipyard around every star the UFP inhabit.

    • @DarthRagnarok343
      @DarthRagnarok343 Рік тому +1

      I was thinking that every full member world of the UFP should be required to build at least one spaceship of some kind every few years or so. In the TNG era that's about 100 planets building on average 50-ish ships every year.

    • @Corbomite_Meatballs
      @Corbomite_Meatballs Рік тому +3

      I don't think it's ever been said in canon that they don't, but we only really hear about Starfleet shipyards when it's relevant to the story. Every member planet could have a shipyard for civilian craft/local security forces.

    • @DarthRagnarok343
      @DarthRagnarok343 Рік тому

      @@Corbomite_Meatballs You are likely correct, I believe every member planet was warp capable with their own space fleet before joining and they would continue to have that capability. I would just like to see this expressed on screen. I think it is also a case of sci/fi writers having no sense of scale. The UFP is about 8000 LY across, that means there are about 5-50 million(depending on where you get the number) star/star systems to patrol and protect, many will just be lone stars that could be ignored. The UFP is going to need a whole lot of ship for that, I don't see Utopia Planitia being up to that itself.

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um Рік тому +2

    To be honest, I wish for a new Star Trek show that set on Mars.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Рік тому +1

    Venus would be a prominent Planet in Star Trek. With Starfleet technology it would be possible to terraform, it's theoretically possible with our near future technology, the big issue is the extra atmosphere.
    That wouldn't be a problem for a Star Trek Earth, it could even be a resource and be transported to Mars via a variety of methods (could a long range cargo transporter reach that far? A continuous cycle, or even a series of stations. And then there's tractor beam set ups).
    Venus might even be a better candidate for terraforming in the possible final results.
    And it would be of benifit for the Federation to have several different biomes within the Sol system, if there are prominent species that don't find the average Earth conditions comfortable.
    A hot tropical Venus (as was imagined in early sci-fi) might be nice for a bunch of species that find Earth dry and cold and can only live on the equator on Earth.
    Then again Venus could be made a garden World from the Human perspective.

  • @pterodactylptroll
    @pterodactylptroll Рік тому

    How do you plan to incorporate things like Utopia Planetia into your Star Trek history video series? Since you're going into so much detail about Mars here, will you glaze over it in the video series?

  • @jeremySocal619
    @jeremySocal619 Рік тому +1

    Why did the Federation have to “build” ships to evacuate Romulus? What happened to the Imperial Fleet?

  • @Harkeilla
    @Harkeilla Рік тому

    What would actually make a great video is that of speculation on if another alien species had made first contact with Earth, instead of the vulcans, such as Andorians or even the Bajorans and how history might have played out, either similarly or vastly different.

  • @CheezyDee
    @CheezyDee Рік тому +1

    One does not joke about marzipan.

  • @daveroe4961
    @daveroe4961 Рік тому

    Maybe Nova Ares was the first permanent settlement and the initial Utopia Planitia construction workers were on temporary contracts.

  • @michaelfourie
    @michaelfourie Рік тому +5

    kinda like how not far off Star Trek Mars is from being like Wh40k Mars. There are still a ton of steps before they are the same, but ST Mars has taken some steps in the same direction (like being the main construction yard for space ships in Sol)

    • @hamishsewell5990
      @hamishsewell5990 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, just minus the artificial Ring of Iron of 40k.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Рік тому +2

      Well Mar's lower gravity makes using it as an orbital shipyard easier to do.

    • @hamishsewell5990
      @hamishsewell5990 Рік тому

      @@barrybend7189 it’s, what, 0.3G to earth’s 1G?

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Рік тому +2

      @@hamishsewell5990 .6 is Mar's the moon is .34 Earth gravity. It's position near the inner asteroid belt also makes it better as the shipyard.

  • @ets2atstruckermartin527
    @ets2atstruckermartin527 Рік тому

    I have noticed: The west part of our galaxy is still not explored yet, isnt it? Withoin the Alpha-Quadrant

  • @vic5015
    @vic5015 Рік тому +1

    The lore *definitely* needs to be revised, as 2032 is rapidly approaching and 2024 is, obviously, *next year* .

    • @Code_Lin
      @Code_Lin Рік тому +1

      Star trek isn't in our own time-line, otherwise they would have to de-canonise khan and a whole lot of other stuff to fit in our universe

    • @comentedonakeyboard
      @comentedonakeyboard Рік тому

      Or they could have a calendar reform sometime in the future (Turkey jumped from the 1300s to the 20th century after all)🤔

  • @SpockBorg5
    @SpockBorg5 Рік тому +1

    There's gotta be commercial agriculture in federation. The replicators don't make anything out of nothing, the replication system draws from a supply of common or basic foodstuffs to produce meals and this is supplemented by recycling or even utilizing basic commercial ingredients like soylent green on deep space missions. Besides not even rearranging the molecular structure of something like broccoli could produce a good steak.

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 Рік тому

      I believe, most later versions of the Replicator (the kind we find in StarTrek) create necessary matter out of pure energy, foods being easily produced by preset programs...
      whilst technologically simple though, how much such a thing is mainstay I am not sure...

    • @SpockBorg5
      @SpockBorg5 Рік тому

      Granted the replicators can do that ,but that would require a horrendous amount of energy. For example, the energy of a 15 kiloton nuke would only produce a particle the size of a grain of sand

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 Рік тому

      @@SpockBorg5 it always seemed that energy was kind of a non-issue in the mid & later Trek Universe, I mean, I believe nearly every community would have a warp-core style antimatter-generator of some kind, so I expect a few thousand kilotons here or there is a minor inconvenience at this point

    • @SpockBorg5
      @SpockBorg5 Рік тому +1

      You got a point, but process would be whole lot more efficient if they took basic food matter and manipulated that to produce various food items. Even for deep space assignments they would still stock up on food supplies for replicator processing. Besides tech guide for 1701 d reiterates what I just said

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 Рік тому

      @@SpockBorg5 I very much agree on the efficiency thing...
      I just feel that turning raw energy into matter, whilst less efficient, is so run of the mill, that by the point of the start of DS9 doing something with molecules is extra effort, requiring skills and computation, and with potential logistical hazards...

  • @kfcroc18
    @kfcroc18 Рік тому +1

    Why6 are there mine in Star Terk? Yes, somethings can't be replicated, but the place shown in Picard ep.2 was a titanium mine, and it was still working. So, what is up with that?

    • @enisra_bowman
      @enisra_bowman Рік тому +3

      A Thing that NEVER really come up in TNG and further, not even really in Voyager but replicating should be REALLY energy consuming since due a Certain Formula, even with the raw materials used as base
      Sooo, i would say that it still makes sense to Mine Stuff and tend the fields since, you can replicate some fries or a starship hull, but it might be more efficent to grow some potatos or mine duranium if they would feel to explain why the Boimlers are still raisin makers.
      a bit like the Situation of Federation-Money

    • @Corbomite_Meatballs
      @Corbomite_Meatballs Рік тому +1

      You also have dilithium mines, since you can't replicate that.

  • @comentedonakeyboard
    @comentedonakeyboard Рік тому +2

    So technically Mars was Vulcanformed🤔🖖

  • @wargodsix
    @wargodsix Рік тому +1

    I wish sto would allow our factions to visit each planet starbase in our systems

  • @joserubenrodriguezfuentes
    @joserubenrodriguezfuentes Рік тому +2

    Why Starfleet havent Terraform Mars as U may Know In The Expanse They we're doing it before The ProtoMolecule got Main stream ???

    • @Exospray
      @Exospray Рік тому

      simple, when you have warp drive why invest all those resources on terraforming a dead world into a habitable one when you can just go somewhere else a terraform a habitable but crappy one into a nice one?

    • @Syndr1
      @Syndr1 Рік тому

      They found habitable planets before any of The Expanse factions did.

    • @Syndr1
      @Syndr1 Рік тому

      Plus they met nice Aliens 👽 , Expanse was still just humans overall. 🙄

    • @evertonporter7887
      @evertonporter7887 Рік тому

      Kirk's son David used protomatter in the Genesis device...

  • @mrbluebell2735
    @mrbluebell2735 Рік тому

    Gravity control in ST is solid state. Was reverse engineered from an anti Gravity belt, I.e. precursor artifact. That's if the material from the original animated series is valid.

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire Рік тому +1

    It would be interesting to see what the Federation could do to wind back Mars a few million years and keep it there, to make Mars a self sustaining ecosystem much like Earth, as it likely was millions of years ago. As far as planets go, it seems ideal to test all manner of terraforming techniques and technologies because you are not going to make it more inhospitable.

    • @patrickmccurry1563
      @patrickmccurry1563 Рік тому +2

      We're talking Star Trek here. With enough technobabble, they could turn Mars into a star or black hole. ;) Don't forget what happened to the Genesis planet in Wrath Of Kahn.

    • @Voltaic_Fire
      @Voltaic_Fire Рік тому +2

      @@patrickmccurry1563 Oh yeah, I had completely forgotten about the genesis planet. I would feel very cheated if I lived on Mars and I heard about some backwoods space rock getting an instant ecosystem, turning it into an M class world while my home remained a hostile dust ball.

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 Рік тому +1

      @@Voltaic_Fire I think most ST Martians love Mars just as it is....and would begrudge Geopomorphic development (attempts to make Mars Earthlike) out of a Planetary pride

  • @shadowqueen1701
    @shadowqueen1701 Рік тому

    You need to do some Babylon 5 lore.

  • @raymondrogers9580
    @raymondrogers9580 Рік тому +2

    The romulan and federation fleets would have been able to relocate all concerned by the time the 1st batch of ships were being bilt... writers ahhh

    • @comentedonakeyboard
      @comentedonakeyboard Рік тому +1

      Or they could have asked the other powers (whom the Autors seem to know knothing about) for Help/outright hired someone.

  • @hotmailcompany52
    @hotmailcompany52 Рік тому

    i wonder how they dealt with the perchlorates in the martian soil

  • @spikedpsycho2383
    @spikedpsycho2383 Рік тому

    We see Artificial gravity. The system uses a network of spinning accelerators to harness gravitons to flow on a electrostatic membrane to generate gravitational field in direction of the plating.

  • @debbieannsmith8962
    @debbieannsmith8962 Рік тому +1

    👍👍👍

  • @TheZamaron
    @TheZamaron Рік тому

    I like the idea of 2069 being when it was "founded" obviously settlement was a ways away, but you coudl say this was the date of the founding as construction began at this point, witht he only people there being Scientists and those working on building this, as well as the shipyard. WIth official permenant colonists settling here in 2103. It's not liek on Earth where peiple could simply just show up hee and immediatly start living, in those early years colonization likely took a bit of time, made easier by aid from the Vulcans rather then simply terraforming Mars.

  • @-JA-
    @-JA- Рік тому +1

    👍👏

  • @skywise001
    @skywise001 Рік тому

    Connie Defiant or Defiant class Defiant?

  • @elevatorctln
    @elevatorctln Рік тому +2

    hey

  • @robinwolstenholme6377
    @robinwolstenholme6377 3 місяці тому

    not much info on starfleet utopia planitia

  • @Marcus51090
    @Marcus51090 Рік тому

    Oh you can go to mars now in Star Trek online? About time…. I stoped playing like 3 years ago it got very repetitive

  • @chrisstetsko5020
    @chrisstetsko5020 4 місяці тому

    Guess its time to deploy Genesis Mark II on Mars. Get a green, waterfilled, habitable planet just an arms reach from Sol III.

  • @josiahzabel8596
    @josiahzabel8596 Рік тому

    4:08 I guess Lake Winnebago dried up and was filled in some time in the next few hundred years- not sure how I feel about that, except that I don't like it.

  • @joserubenrodriguezfuentes
    @joserubenrodriguezfuentes Рік тому +3

    Startrek III The Genesis Device

  • @SolarMechanic
    @SolarMechanic Рік тому

    Love the videos, but have you ever considered using mouse smoothing software to get better footage?

  • @charlescooney9281
    @charlescooney9281 Рік тому

    Isn’t everything on mars now gone because of the Romulans?

  • @SkrapMetal84
    @SkrapMetal84 Рік тому

    if your going to do Mars might as well do the Moon also.

  • @shanenway3684
    @shanenway3684 Рік тому

    However 😊

  • @kineuhansen8629
    @kineuhansen8629 Рік тому +1

    hang on as far i know we cant go to mars as a normal player wich i think is annoying

  • @oliverfranke7650
    @oliverfranke7650 Рік тому

    Contradiction: 143 million inhabitants, but all major cities were attacked and the atmosphere ignited. Yeah, that totally sounds like "only" 90k death would be the result of such a devastating attack. NuTrek simply sucks.

  • @dredeth
    @dredeth Рік тому

    where's the part about MCRN?

    • @carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679
      @carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679 Рік тому +1

      wrong show, still a good show. ST Discovery and Picard are both woke crap. I refuse to allow them to be "canon" in my mind.

    • @dredeth
      @dredeth Рік тому

      @@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679 Wasn't Sisco the captain of Donnager??

    • @carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679
      @carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679 Рік тому

      @@dredeth i am unsure. i jsut remember him on DS9 being made part of that whole "woo woo wormhole" thingy, which was cool. But it was so long ago

  • @trajan74
    @trajan74 Рік тому +3

    Isn't it weird in Trek, with thousands of human colonies spread throughout the Alpha and Beta quadrants, possibly millions of human and mixed-human expats living on other alien worlds, all the human characters were born and raised on Earth? The only exception is Burnham.

    • @occultatumquaestio5226
      @occultatumquaestio5226 Рік тому +6

      Travis Mayweather was born on the space freighter ECS Horizon; 7 of 9 was born on the colony world of Tendara; B'Elanna Torres was born on the colony of Kessik IV; Beverly Crusher was born on the Moon; Tasha Yar was born on the colony of Turkana IV; and Deanna Troi was born on Betazed. They're plenty of Humans characters in Trek who were born off Earth. And even if they weren't, Earth should still have the majority of the Human population in the 23rd/24th centuries.

  • @AncestorEmpire1
    @AncestorEmpire1 Рік тому

    DoomSlayer: stay away from Mars!

  • @robinburt5735
    @robinburt5735 Рік тому

    "The sands of Mars will run red with Earther blood!" (+1 internet point to whomever gets that reference)

    • @Chace957
      @Chace957 Рік тому

      B5 - episode about the mind controlled former Free Mars terrorist

    • @Chace957
      @Chace957 Рік тому

      Tho technically it’s “Mars will never be free until the sands run red with Earther blood”

  • @pearsegallagher9832
    @pearsegallagher9832 Рік тому

    algorithm comment

  • @jhmcd2
    @jhmcd2 Рік тому

    I never cared for what Picard did. It was a waist. Of course the entire show is a waist. But I would like for them to at least show some green patches on the planet, showing that some areas have vegetation on it. But while Mars is the main shipyard for earth, it's not the only one by far, a common misconception.

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon Рік тому

      I don’t think Picard is a waist. It’s more like a navel or a butt.

  • @TheOneTrueDragonKing
    @TheOneTrueDragonKing Рік тому

    How did you get free-roam access to the Mars orbital map? That CERTAINLY doesn't look like a mission or TFO!
    Additionally, Star Trek Picard never happened, so you can safely ignore all of that in your lore videos. If prior statements by characters in-universe are in fact true, such as certain lines by Ambassador Spock in the Kelvin timeline movies, then regardless of what the out-of-universe people say, Star Trek Picard is an errant timeline, an aberration that is separate to what actually happens, similar to the aforementioned Kelvin Timeline.
    It will be corrected at the end of Star Trek Picard's run, removing it from canon and rendering stuff like the Mars attack by the Synths, non-existent as well.

    • @Code_Lin
      @Code_Lin Рік тому +2

      Grow up, just cause you don't like a certain star trek it doesn't mean it isn't real, this is some childish behavior

    • @TheOneTrueDragonKing
      @TheOneTrueDragonKing Рік тому

      @@Code_Lin Actually, my like or dislike has nothing to do with it.
      In-universe, various characters' actions and words provide a direct, un-recantable statement of denial that Star Trek Picard even exists.
      For example, Prime Universe Spock's line with regards to the Romulan Relocation Fleet which he was supposed to lead in the 2009 movie Star Trek, which states that he attempted to save the Romulan and Reman people but failed.
      If this line is still canon, then the Romulan Relocation Fleet is no longer needed as the Romulus system exploded before the fleet could be constructed or launched. The whole plot of Star Trek Picard instantly falls apart. No synths, no evacuation fleet, no rebellion, no Picard resigning his commission... etcetera.
      If this line was removed from canon, it means Spock was successful in saving the Romulan and Reman people, and the whole plot of Star Trek Picard instantly falls apart. No Synths, no evacuation fleet, no rebellion, no Picard resigning his commission... etcetera.
      Regardless of my like or dislike, there are subtle in-universe facts that mean Star Trek Picard's entire timeline has been destined for the trash can from the very start of the show, whether fans of the series like it or not.
      Sorry Picard series lovers, but Star Trek: Picard has never been canon to the prime timeline, in any sense of the word. And it doesn't matter what anyone likes or dislikes about it - Picard is going in the trash can whether anyone likes it or not.
      As the rock group Queen once sang, "It doesn't really matter!"

  • @nomercyinc6783
    @nomercyinc6783 2 місяці тому

    using high gothic from the roman times isnt cool or clever today. high gothic looks dumb in every aspect of scifi. its dumb as hell in warhammer also

  • @vernedavis5856
    @vernedavis5856 Рік тому

    what a foolish exercise. resetting Venus orbit to 180degrees along Earth's
    &subsequently terraforming would've ben a far better activity

  • @DoremiFasolatido1979
    @DoremiFasolatido1979 Рік тому

    Honestly I always hated that. Why have a shipyard there? There's nothing there. None of the materials needed, no environment conducive to either habitation, or construction. It's location isn't even that good for the purpose of building starships. If you want a convenient place for that, you'd be better off at one of the giant planets, where resources are abundant and you're closer to the border of the solar system.
    Mars is completely worthless. Aside from it being a stepping stone in our quest to become a spacefaring civilization, it really has absolutely nothing of value. It can't even be terraformed...ever.

  • @billrich9722
    @billrich9722 Рік тому

    What is producing oxygen? What about a viable magnetic field to protect it from the sun? How does adding meteorite water produce an atmosphere? Did they just “replicate” it or something? How does an atmosphere freaking burn?