Installing My Gate!!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- The gate fits! There is more fine tuning to do but it's up and it's just as I had hoped. Roland Guthrie is a great welder and he did beautiful finish work on it. Gate columns here:
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It's refreshing to see someone with far more experience still needing to fiddle with the install. Makes me feel like I'm not a complete moron.
A couple of gussets in between the flanges where the hinges load the beam would also help immensely to keep the flanges square to the web.
From a beam guy, stiffeners on the web would reduce beam twisting. Fantastic gate, love the look of the side beams. Designed and built many jobs, after years of fabrication you always find a better way after it’s built, and painted. I enjoyed your build, great job.
There should be no twist in the post. If the hinges are binding the weld is going to break free from the hinge. Very dangerous, it’s not going to last a month.
@@Mossy_FieldStone you are a funny kid.
From another beam guy, stiffeners won't improve torsional stiffness much. Welding full-height plates across the tips of flanges to turn the H-beam in to a box section (with a web running down it) will massively improve torsional resistance. Open sections (H shapes, channels, angles etc.) are very inefficient cross-sections for resisting torsion. Close sections (i.e. hollow sections, box, circular) are massively stiffer against torsion.
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Don’t you want a little bit of flex (lateral) built-in to the beam this is how they design skyscrapers to resist wind fatigue, right? Of course you want zero movement in the concrete because of the weak tensile strength. But the torsional or rotational resistance should be close to zero in the post I.e. once you get a slow speed momentum going in the gate, it should continue to move until it encounters an obstruction. If it stops within a foot it’s an initial Kinetic energy movement that’s due to the hinges nothing to do with the post.
For something like a gate the loads/behaviour is only marginally dynamic and, whilst some flex is unavoidable, purposely designing in more flex than is necessary is not something that would have an advantage in this situation, especually as the resulting lack of alignment and fatigue will cause unwanted issues. Sky scrapers are a very different scenario and the concepts there do not really relate to a gate.
The sweet smell of success! Looks great! This is why high school physics class should be a required subject.
2 videos in and I've found a new relaxer after long days at work. Nice channel learning me something here, I tell you.
Good looking gate. My son is in the process of designing two gates that will span a 40' opening. It doesn't have to be decorative, but has to be strong.
The gate turned out great and will be even better with the wood installed. Wide flange beams are a poor choice for the posts and should've been square tube or pipe for the torsional rigidity. Your extra gussets will help but the best thing is to add is some stiffener plates at each hinge location to tie in both flanges to the web.
Gate install is a craft in and of itself! I build gates, I have fights with metal on the fab table the same as any other builder, but the install can be the most harrowing experience of the whole process. I would love to get more install tips from builders. Thanks for sharing
I was watching a different video and seen yours in the side bar and immediately clicked! What a great series
Good morning Scott! The gate has turned out beautiful! The only additional suggestion I would make is to weld gussets inside the web of the I-beam columns where you identified the 2 additional rectangular tubing braces.
Looks very VERY good!! I’ve been a structural Ironworker for over twenty years and we would put stiffeners where the hinges are. 3/8 flat stock welded in horizontally between the flanges and along the web will stop that twisting action. Hope that helps👍
HOUGEN, that’s the; “Cadillac” of mag drills, Scott!😉
That gate is PROPER!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Your Guy, Roland, ROCKS!!!👍👍
I love how you ran into an issue but were able to solve it without sacrificing the look of the final product. Even with proper planning, things still can go wrong! This gate series has been really well put together.
Beautiful gate.
One county north of me there is an Amish Welding and Fabricating Shop. (That is amusing in and of itself. They sit in the dark with a gas lantern eating lunch. Then they fire up the diesel generator and go back to work ). They build gates. High dollar gates for Mcmansions and Horse Farms. They powder coat everything. I was up there a few months back getting some cattle feeders and they were loading a set of gates on a truck . Twenty thousand dollars for one set of two gates.
Adding a wheel and a concrete runway for it will keep the gate from sagging; long as the gate remains level throughout the opening arc.
Can't wait to see the wood on the gate.
Someday, I wan to visit Scott's shop and the first thing I'm going to do is stop and marvel at this gate.
You might only be marveling from the outside lol
My opinion doesn’t matter in the least but I’ve installed fences (and gates) for 21 years. Gotta be honest, the weight of this gate especially adding the wood on concerns me. If that gate comes loose (even if it’s 15 years from now) it could kill someone. A larger 8” thick walled S.S 40 or S.S 80 post would have been my suggestion. Love the channel and all you do ❤
if you die from this gate coming loose it is your turn.
The post isn’t the problem. I heard him say there’s a slight behind in the hinges in the open position. That will snap off the hinge for sure in A couple of months. There should be zero resistance in the hinges, period.
And please do not put a wheel on the bottom that will act as a lever and cause damage to the concrete base along with undue stress on the hinges.
Having a little bit of flex in the post is not the problem it’s the concrete that would be the weak link, but if those hinges are binding, it’s not gonna last a month. Once it’s in use.
That is a good looking gate
Add web stiffeners to the main post aligned to those in-between tubes you welded in place in place to stiffen the main column and prevent twist
Nice gate. It stands like a billboard to the quality of workmanship of the man standing behind it.
Scott, I know it's not finished yet, but that gate is a thing of beauty, both from a fabricating and an aesthetic standpoint.
Just the footers and the bond beam you did in the ground was spectacular. Gate is way above above Par. As always, Can't wait to see the finished product.
SO many details!
I guess this defines "engineering".
Beautiful work
that is one handsome gate
Beautiful!
It looks like a real nice gate.
I personally do not like the hinges. They will grind themselves down in time and i don't believe the landing pads are large enough. Not enough weld area. The i beam web needs stiffened from flang to flang.
Box the i beam post and add tapperd roller bearing hinges.
and grease zerks
Amen brother I love having a mag drill as a fabricator
Im looking forward to the gate opener segment. My 12ft gate is about 400 lbs and the opener I have struggles with it especially if the wind is blowing. Im hoping I can learn a thing or two from you.
Is it a swing, slide/roll, or lift? I assume it’s steel given the weight and not aluminum. What type of opener do you have on it?
I love watching skilled craftsman work. Especially when they explain the unexpected problems that they faced with a project and their fixes. Very cool.
Just a question for the knowledgeable "Why doesn't he put a wheel on the end of the gate to take some of the load off? Is it because of the gravel drive or the arc of the swing of the gate would cause the wheel to bind?" Great channel. This guy and his friends are amazing and they should all be held up as mentors for our youth to follow.
That's A LOT of weight swinging effortlessly through the air. GOOD JOB!
Engineer here. You are on the right track with those horizontal braces. Take it further, cross the I to get to the section that is starting the twist. You could always box in the front and rear of that beam to help resist the twist. Can you come up straight with a 6x6 square beam from the pad your electric comes out of? Then cross brace to the main vertical beam. Or just poor an anchor pad behind that to attach the upright brace post. If you reference heavy wood beam corner post fences, they have both the diagonal and a horizontal brace going to another vertical post to take up the loads.
A smart man knows when it's better to get someone other than himself, to do a job. Levers are powerful. Even though that's some pretty heavy-duty steel, you are seeing a twist when the gate swings. There are some impressive forces at work there! Looks great though. Adding that second brace should clear up that twist.
The gate is beautiful!
very, very nice
Very impressive !
Great work as usual. I just can't imagine living where that level of security can even be considered!
With all the weight in that design, did you ever consider making it a sliding gate rather than a swing gate?
Up here in northern Vermont i have seen gates built by welding both posts to an I beam 4 feet below grade and setting the locally made 1200 pound utility blocks on the I beam, post to post, and the road built over the blocks.
Beautiful
I've welded up many large gate hinges, connections, and automations.
The gate should be welded into its final position before the hinges even come out of their box.
A yard of concrete or more and a 6×6 x 1/2" thick square or larger post 5' into the ground for that fella.
The operator can be monuted on a pad.
I had no idea how much work goes into a gate like this. I learned a bunch watching this project, looks fantastic
I just made this gate’s exact opposite! Just to keep the puppy on the front patio, I built a gate from 1x6 redwood slats. It, too, is kept closed by a switchable magnet. It took me less time to build than EC’s beauty, not surprisingly.
Beautiful gate
Brother! Holy crap. I cannot fathom that folks on UA-cam would be lacking the mental accuity to understand the 'NO ENTRY' rule now. What a beautiful behemoth of security. Razor wire and a gate befitting a king! Well.done! Keep up the excellent work!
What a beauty! A lot of hard work, well thought out and well executed. Good Job Scott! Should do the trick to keep loved ones in, unwanted ones out, and the world marveling at the beauty and craftsmanship!
Amazing. Thoroughly enjoyed this video. All the details, the concerns, the testing. I ate it up!
I always appreciate you being honest about the things you would've done differently on your projects after they're done. What a beautiful gate; excellent job. Thank you for your top notch videos and top notch knowledge you share with people.
I would of went with heavy wall square steel tubing. It doesn't flex or twist. But love the look! Always quality craftsmanship.
Outstanding job sir. Looks great. My “I want to be an engineer “ grandson is taking welding next year in high school. I am proud of him.
They don't teach welding - or machining - in engineering school anymore. Tell grandson these skills will make him a way better engineer.
Nice work.
Build that Wall
Absolutely beautiful engineering, watching from Ireland 🇮🇪
5 p plus is 6010, a newer version of it , that is. 7018 has higher tensile strength for holding power after you apply the 6010 plus, plus it looks very nice when applied by a good weldor. Nice gate. that'll hold up for many decades if the finish is maintained, love it. Peace
great project. As a carpenter, I always learn something interesting watching you.
Beautiful gate. It is always a real pleasure to see a project come to fuition.
The gate design is beautiful. It reminds me of the Tioga Bridge.
A thinga beauty!
Suggestion, if you need more support for that I beam some stiffeners inside the web would help that beam strengthen up its weaker side.
Love this build, gate looks great. Love the problem solving stuff
You should have used square tubing for your gate post, it won't twist
It looks fantastic, can't wait to see it fully done and see all the work pay off.
Congratulations on a great job Scott, your humbleness make You the great teacher that You are. Thanks for sharing your knowledge unconditionally with the Us. The gate is the proof that Function and Beauty compliment each other.
Looks like you have a fairly secure compound
Looking very majestic already!
Beautiful, Scott! Congratulations... ...but now you will have to upgrade your home to meet the "gate" standards. :-)
It's BEAUTIFUL!!! Good job Scott!!
Best swing gate I've ever seen. WOW. Did you consider a sliding gate with same structure? I'm looking at options on my 950' driveway. It serves 3 residences.
When I saw this video was out, I made a cup of and sat down and watched your latest update. Love this project. Looking forward to the next instalment, best wishes from Ireland 😊
Installed already, guess I have some videos to catch up 😅. But what a beautiful gate it has become! Congrats on the design!
Looking great!
Arm angle,shear weight and rotational forces are very strong with this one.
Adding a 3rd hinge ups the complexity, and almost always causes a binding problem.
The bottom hinge holds the weight in compression, the top is in an extreme battle with tension.
There is a reason the standard is lighter aluminum gates are attached with adjustable hinges on square posts.
For any gate ,adjustable hinges are the #1 by 85% best practice.
Hinge posts and hinges.... again face enormous fatigue and gravity.
Looking forward to the operator and mag latch install.
I highly recommend a ground rod at the operator ,lightning is the #1 killer of operators and mag latches.
Good episode
Any plans to put some zerk fittings on the hinges, so you can keep them lubricated?
That is a Beautiful Gate, and
an Outstanding Job on the
Overall Project Scott!
Very Impressive!
👍🏼🇺🇸
I have enough trouble getting a Colorbond gate right. Your work here is amazing and what a beaut gate. Good job mate.
Congratulations!
Really great looking gate. You put a lot of effort and time into it and it really shows.
Nice.
Congratulations Scott! Great job!!!
I had my doubts about this gate design (looks), but all painted up, outdoor, it is quite handsome. Well done!
Super! What a great thing to complete. I always appreciate how humble you are, how you always show what you didn't get right the first time and how you can fix any problems that come along.
Holy cow, Scott! What a phenomenal project. The gate looks great! I have no doubt that you and your subject matter experts will make the necessary tweeks so that the end product looks and operates in a way that meets or exceeds your expectations. This was a great project and one you must be especially proud of.
Could get a cheeky wheel at the of that. Might help with the bouncing of the gate. All I can hear is overkill by motorhead on this. Didn't realise I beams weren't that great as gate posts.
Here North-East border of Europe just before Russia where only Finns live the ground is frozen during winter as three to four feet deep. This mean that we have different dilemmas with underground support or base structures . Here structures you during build think that are super solid and heavy duty WILL move around between seasons. So everything must be build so that it is adjustable by bolts but of course main parts can be welded as one. Nice gate and good steel work. 👍
awesome to finally see this big girl up and swingin! fantastic job man and as for the bending and bowing of the post dont beat yourself up on it its just things that sound good on paper but most the time in the field you always have to make adjustments!
Coming together great! I did not watch the episode for the footer construction, but my gut engineer says that thing should be at least 6' deep and 18" diameter at minimum, especially in soggy Orrygon! As far as the hinge column goes, the kickers will help, 45 degrees is ideal. What would really help is some depth to the design, but it's a little late for that. I would stitch 4 vertical angles, say 2x2x1/4" , attaching the toes of the angles between the inside flange and web of the column, creating 4 small square "pipes" at the 4 corners. Four inches of weld on each toe, top and bottom and 2" on 12" @ a single 3/16" in between. Weld the ends of the angle to the baseplate while you're at it. It wouldn't hurt to put a horizontal strap connecting the the backs of the angles at each hinge point, and it's only 15 more minutes work. Prep every weld surface by grinding to clean metal, no cleaners necessary, and use only 7018; that 5P not the way to go. The best part is you don't even have to make beautiful welds, just so long as they are sound. It all gets covered up. Next, and most importantly, cut some strips of 1/4" plate and box-out the column by filling between the toes of the beam. For aesthetic purposes you can seal weld the outside face only, stitch the back plate, or seal weld both inside and outside face. I think the torsional stress is what's causing your binding issues, and until you make a box shape, it's going to continue to twist the column when the gate is in the open position. The top and bottom hinges are being forced in opposite directions, and I beams are not good at resisting twisting forces. The 4 angles will give you some additional vertical stiffness without changing the outer dimension. If you start on the back side, you'll have it down by the time you get to the front show welds. It will all be ground smooth in the end anyway. Regardless of the order, all the angles should be securely tacked in place to prevent drawing before stitch welding begins. If you are still having alignment issues at that point, I think your foundation is to blame and you may need to add your kicker bracing.
My oh my, that gate looks terrific! Great job!
Awesome to see this thing in place! I knew it was a big gate, but I didn't really appreciate HOW big until we got to see it in situ. Crazy to think about the force in play when moving that beast around, and the reinforcement needed to keep it true.
That's a large and heavy gate, I hope those post hold, but I wouldn't bet on it lasting more than a few years without problems.
So inspiring! Thank you for sharing these Saturday morning videos.
Good looking gate! Great Craftsmanship, too!
Excited to see how those cedar panels turn out…..
Kudos sir. That gate is rad. Love the videos and how you navigate this crazy world and the humility you do it with. Keep pushin buddy
I only use 3/8 or 1/2 thick square tubing for gate posts like that. No twisting
looks great, I have been looking forward to this day
That's a nice looking gate without the wood.
Awesome gate! Very unique and creative design. Well done.
THANK YOU. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
This was an amazing project. Thanks for sharing!
Best in class steel work & paint job.
It’s going to look like a million bucks with some lumber installed. Can’t wait to see the end result!