My gay 15 yr boy went through a phase of playing with make up/ dresses at home during grade school then suddenly in 8th grade started dressing boyish. Kids go through phases I don't believe in medication/surgery until they are adults. The mind doesn't mature until around age 25.
Thats the problem with this ideology. We are automatically a transphobe for trying to protect a child. They use bullying and aggression to fight for their ideology...sounds like what Hi&&er did back in the day...bully and indoctrinate kids to tell on their parent...this is happening in Canada right now. A 14 year old had her dad arrested for mis gendering them.
Absolutely, surgery and permanent change is worth waiting on. I get the sense your son really benefited from the chance to try things out when he was young! Trans kids often get a lot from reversible transitions, such as clothing, haircuts, makeup, trying new pronouns, or puberty blockers.
Yep, the "trans kids" thing is erasing an entire generation of gays and lesbians. Virtually ALL adult gays/lesbians were "gender non-conforming", and confused/insecure about their identity, at least SOME of their childhood... which makes them EXTREMELY vulnerable to being persuaded that they're a ""trans kid'"" (a label that shouldn't exist. NOBODY, no parent, no doctor, not the child themself, knows how an 11yo will identify AS AN ADULT). Conservative, Islamic, vehemently homophobic Iran has done this EXACT SAME thing since the 70s- Solving the """problem""" of homosexuality, by transforming gay men into (the ILLUSION of) "straight women"... Trans ideology tries to hide behind gays and lesbians (by accusing critics of being "anti-LGBT", even when they ONLY criticize trans ideology), in order to exploit the social acceptance gays and lesbians have earned in the last few decades... But they only do that, because it's politically convinient; In reality, trans ideology is UTTERLY OPPOSED to gays and lesbians... Trans ideology says that ANY acknowledgment of evidence-based sex is "hateful, transphobic bigotry"... Which makes ALL gays and lesbians "hateful transphobes", simply for BEING same-SEX attracted (rather than "same-GENDER attracted", which has never been a thing). Trans ideology says that straight men MUST be prepared to sleep with biological males, or else they're an "evil transphobic bigot", and basically a nazi... But THE SAME is true about how trans ideology sees lesbians... Trans ideology says that lesbians MUST be willing to suck "feminine girl-c0ck", or else they are a "hateful, transphobic bigot" EXACTLY like the straight man. (And obviously, the same is also true if gay men, being "obliged" to be open to sleeping with women) ALL lesbian spaces, lesbian forums, lesbian dating apps are now FULL of men, demanding sex from lesbians,- Often men claiming to "identify as female", despite having a full beard, no surgery, no hormones. It used to be a cheesy joke that your pervy uncle would say- "I'm a lesbian, in a man's body". Or "lesbians just haven't had the right c0ck yet..." But now we have "male feminists" SINCERELY using the same excuse, to force lesbians to have sex with men... THERE IS NO "LGBT"- Trans ideology is DIRECTLY OPPOSED to gay rights, and the biggest threat to gays and lesbians, in generations...
As a kid I've always been a tomboy who hated dresses and all 'girly' stuff. Now as an 20 years old adult I.... still hate dresses and all 'girly' stuff. I don't however think of myself as a man just because I like certain things associated with the other gender and dislike things associated with mine. That's just my character. I'm writing this cause I've seen multiple stories and comments in which women described how they were tomboyish but later grew up from that. I never have. But it still doesn't make me a man.
You are like my mom who is 75. I told her today you would be a boy. Was a tomboy as a kid and still Is. I rarely see my mom in a dress. She’s dresses feminine but differently than I dress as a woman. She lives in collared shirts and golf shorts…lol. She could play any sport and still does.
❤ I agree with you- our social prescription for “girl/woman” and “boy/man” are much too narrow. Being human is more than that. And we don’t need surgery to be able to fit in… we need acceptance.
Yes absolutely and being trans is not about how you want to dress or the things you enjoy doing. It's about how you feel about your gender identity, your own body and how you are seen by others.
I wish the whole trans community was so thoughtful and logical in their thoughts as Buck is. My literal issue is that society is forcing everyone to speak and accept others' beliefs but ignoring my own. Thank you for speaking up for kids.
Don`t expect "Good, Conservative Christians" to be nice to you. Mostly, they can only deal with people like themselves. Even Jesus was a bit like that. Even if he didn`t exist.
Honest, civil conversation-how refreshing in this age of shock jocks and rudeness! In a world of crass cable-news commentators, be like Buck and Andrew. ❤
What an amazing, interesting, intelligent and thought provoking person Buck is! He came from an educational, personal, insightful and compassionate perspective and I found Andrew respectful, thoughtful and interesting in return. This was such a good interview! Thank you.
@@tammyrogers9129it costs $0 to be respectful of someone else's wishes - Buck Angel is a transexual man and would treat YOU with respect - maybe marinate on that.
@@aloo333I love your comment. People can be such a-holes when they’re behind a keyboard. They gleefully dehumanize everyone online, yet they don’t want the same done to them. They’re no better than a dog turd melting on a hot sidewalk. It doesn’t cost anything to be polite to other people whose reality is different from theirs.
As someone just genuinely trying to understand I am so grateful for interviews like this - it also gives me hope for a humane and loving outcome. Thank you.
@@theeggtimertictic1136 it means we all deserve to be alive. Do you really not understand that? Many in the gay community…and on earth, frankly, fight suicidal thoughts daily. It is an uplifting reminder that we humans all have a place here…because we are here.
I took oestrogen hormone blockers when I had cancer … I changed hugely, really aggressive and intolerant to others. My brother said “welcome to MY world”!! It was horrid ….
I agree with Buck on so many things. My brother is F2M. The thing that bothered me about his transition wasn't that he did it. It was the way he went about it. He was refused testosterone and a bilateral mastectomy by a few therapists. So he got in touch with the community who put him in touch with a different therapist. A therapist that was also trans. 10 minute conversation and he got everything that he wanted. Everyone talks about how it's amazing and a cure all, your depression will go away and you'll live a wonderful life etc. He's had his mastectomy and is on testosterone and is more of a depressed mess than he was before. It's his life and he can do as he pleases. But I can't shake the feeling that he was lead down this path rather than seeking it out himself and in the long run it's done him more damage. He's a social recluse, very rarely leaves the house. He eats way too much as has put on so much weight he needs a mobility scooter to get around now. It's things like this that have people concerned. We are beaten over the head with the bigot mallet the second we even dare to question it. It seems like the whole system is geared to encourage transition as a first resort rather than the last and I believe in the vast majority of cases it's doing more harm than good.
I was a tomboy and could climb trees and skin knees with the guys & now I love dresses/dating men & girly stuff as well as being active & strong. Feeling uncomfortable in your body can be “a phase”. We’ve all felt that at some point. Kids can and should go through many different phases. Let them play with wardrobe & pronouns all day long…but when it comes to permanent self mutilation or puberty blockers…more wise counsel & dialogue is needed. And yes…of an age of consent. Really important conversation, thanks to both of you.
@@aurus6483 every word. Did you? I was responding directly to something Buck said about how he felt tomboy did not equate to trans dysphoria. I was agreeing. Go back & re-listen without attack or defense mode engaged maybe?
Buck, please do more interviews! Your point of view and nuance and honesty are exactly what we need right now. I swear we need a movement for nuance and critical thinking!
Buck has a great YT channel with lots of thought-provoking interviews. He’s fighting against extreme positions on both sides, and promoting a careful and balanced view of transsexualism.
This is a fabulous interview & so informative!!!! Buck doesn't try to shove it down your throat, he simply states how he feels, accept him or not! Buck keep speaking out you are so needed right now to counter act the narrative out there regarding this subject! I wish you well Buck & much success🥳🤗
*I never say this stuff. Firstly, I've had an amazing response to this episode, more than I ever get, and ever expected. At the same time, I've lost a LOT of subscribers off the back of it. On both sides of the fence I imagine. If you really enjoyed this, please do make sure to like it, and share it either on socials or with friends. As it stands, it's been killed by the algorithm, and it's such a shame because I'm so proud of this one. Thanks to you all!* I realise some people will see this as a tribal, binary conversation. I implore those of you to sit and listen, and see how we criticise BOTH sides. This is intended to be nuanced, and informative - the subjective experience of someone who has been through it. This does not reflect the views of all trans people - and remember, Buck is someone who has greatly benefited from being able to change the external appearance of his sex - it helped him hugely, and can help others, too. I'd be happy to engage with people disagreeing with certain aspects...but not those who behave tribally and attack ad-hominem. But here's a question for my channel: should I do more in this controversial territory?
You can't get into the weeds without offending some, it is what it is but it's important to dive into uncomfortable subjects and have a nuanced discussion.
@@AndrewGold1 Drew you can only be canceled if you let them, if it makes you feel better you could add a little disclaimer like "the guests on this show do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host" People are so quick to emotional outbursts without considering that people often have neutral or nuanced views.
@@nosferatuthevampyre Yeh maybe I should have a disclaimer like that. And another saying don't sue me scientology! haha but those disclaimers look a bit rubbish. Maybe my pinned comment is enough!
@@AndrewGold1 it should be my man, you can't control how people will react, I have your back on this as meaningless as that might be lol and yeah disclaimers are pretty wack now that I think about it.
Thank you for having this guest today. I have a child who does not identify as their sex at birth. They are 13 and ASD. The hardest part is getting them to understand that no changes should happen until they know their body. Our hard line is 18 when we no longer have a say. Recently a well meaning healthcare worker told them that they could connect to healthcare for transitioning. Thankfully we had already connected to a paediatrician who specializes in caring for kids who are both ASD and gender questioning. The specialist agreed with me that nothing should be done at this time. My kid is safe, they are not at risk from their mental health and they have a supportive parents who just want a happy child. It is so hard to explain to a child that they are likely gay but also identity seeking but all kids identity seek. I was punk and my friends were whatever and no I wasn’t really punk. It is normal. It is currently madness watching the polarizing conversations. Kids are going to get hurt by well meaning people. I have found a great mental health professional who is both a PHD and ADHD. So the primary point in the mental health care is acceptance and learning personal mental health care and hygiene. Respect to you both. Let’s hope that the conversation moves on and our children get to do the hardest thing of all, grow themselves into wonderful people.
Ok, 18 as a line for actively transforming is a good idea, but your post is very short, so I wonder if your kid has the space to explore who they want to be/think they are? Do not feel that you must justify yourself. It is just a question.
@@annepoitrineau5650 Thanks for asking. Raising a very clever and high functioning ASD is very complex. Routines and even getting them out of the house for school is a daily struggle. Exploration of the self comes from many sources. School is hell and anxiety is near crippling. Thankfully we now have regular mental health care. This child is a very complex onion. They have access to all forms of art and history with regular visits to public galleries etc. We also go to a variety of cultural experiences I actively search for social opportunities that are both safe and good for personal growth. I am not always successful and feel blessed if we go to three or four of these a year. All healthcare and outside resources are accessed once I know they are gay/gender questioning positive. I also ensure that my child is exposed to good role models ie Drs who are also neurodiverse gay positive and trans positive. I do not restrict my child on the internet. I do however keep their computer monitor in the family area where we can see it at any time. We buy books on request. We debate issues like J K Rowling etc. The dialogue is open and we use references to ensure both sides are clear on the current issues. All points in question are checked for validity (no fake news or intentional drama please). In the end I can't say if they get a chance to explore because I don't always know if gender identity is top of mind or driving their current deep dive. I do know it is top of mind when the topic is raised however. Because they are so smart and ASD they can argue a topic and hold their line. Passion comes with the position argued but i could argue that the passion is sometimes as fleeting as an argument. Conversations such as the above video assist me in my parenting. I don't want to provide my child with examples of transition failures so I don't. They know how to do the research and honestly at their age anything I say could increase their resolve to transition. As parents we believe our child maybe gay or bi but not necessarily trans . We also believe they are in pain, confused and lonely. We also believe that they need to experience their body and all it can do before they make any permanent modifications. Our personal parenting guide is to provide opportunities to be exposed to all kinds of people, political and cultural thought and lifestyles. (before the internet loses it's mind NO it is only age appropriate) We don't control them we open doors and let them see inside.
When my daughter started starving herself we took her to a clinic for eating disorders. The councilor said she wasn't anorexic but too much information overload. She is intellectually disabled and when we found out that her class was talking about farm animals and genetically modified food for example, she was misinformed. I told the teacher to balance out the program and talk about healthy eating instead of telling teenage girls who already have body image problems the problems with the food supply today.
@@6422022 I did become anorexic, partly as a result of reading that people were gaining weight in lockdown and becoming scared I would do that and become overweight. My response was become focused on losing weight and developed a restrictive ED from there. I am also autistic, and I didn't understand healthy eating that well. With disorders that effect information processing it seems that people can take information, get worried about the implications of it and then respond completely inappropriately, not able to respond in a healthy way.
@@FronteirWolf This is what is happening in schools today. The ones targeted for transing are young girls. It seems that the girls are on the spectrum are vulnerable ie problems at home problems coping for example, disabled children and gay children afraid of their sexual orientation. This is why it is important to let kids be, stop trying to transition them and get them the proper help not what is offered out there today. If a child grows up and then decides to transition fine but leave the kids alone.
Thanks Andrew! I’ve been a Buck Angel fan for many years. Because he’s so genuine, generous and such a gentleman! He’s one of many voices of reason I’m very grateful for. Such a great conversation.
Dude! What an amazing interview! I have asked and wondered so much of the things discussed. As a middle aged tom boy, I never grew out of it but it hurts me seeing kids today being told they are trans because they are like me. Man, just really loved this and really can't wait to learn more and hear more from Buck! Thanks Andrew!
Andrew is such an empathetic and sincere interviewer and Buck has has so much life experience that has given him compassion and wisdom. Two ingredients for a fantasic session! Thx so much!
As a trans women myself, I'd say he is right in his opinion. We get a lot of hate from all sides, all I want is to live my life and not be beaten up or killed. Extreme opinions on both sides are cancer to our lives. Buck is so down to earth and so right. Thank you for this Andrew and Buck!
There's hate in everything. As a white senior female my siblings and I were beaten up teased bullied daily for our entire school careers. I've been bullied in the work force by people of color as well. This is true for everyone. I put my girls in private Christian school and they were bullied . My sisters were beaten up by their husband's for uears tire irons, thrown down stairs, my dad was molested by his mother when he was young sowas his brother. His brothers native wife fled and left 4 kids to be molested. Thankfully my mum stays took the abuse but our dad didn't touch us. This is a common thread for many people of all colors.
I've always taken the perspective that if gay and lesbian people have their attractions taken as being 'fair enough', then if anybody feels like they're a woman or man in the wrong body, then I'll credit their identity as being the one they transition to.
I very much remember this gentlemans story from "female to male" transition and I ABSOLUTELY ADMIRED AND RESPECTED HIM THEN AND EVEN MORE SO THAN EVER.... NOWWW!! I AM INCREDIBLY HAPPY FOR YOU BUCK!!!🌎👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 WHATS MORE IS I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU BUCK !!! 💯💯💯💯💯💯
Thank you Andrew and Buck for doing this interview. As a post-op trans female, it was so good to hear someone else from the trans community talking sense. I describe myself as a trans female. I am not a woman. I have a male skeleton and a male skull. I style my hair with a fringe and often wear large glasses to hide my browbone. I also wear neck scarves and sometimes chokers to help hide my "Adam's apple". I have a husky voice and most people assume I was a heavy smoker, giving me a raspy voice. A good thing in the UK is you can not have surgery until you are around eighteen. That's the age you can say you are looking into having surgery. There is a five-year wait before you can start hormones and a further three to five years before you can have Sexual Reassignment Surgery. I keep reading in the UK press about how teenagers are undergoing surgery. This is not true in the UK. On the religious front, I am an ex-JW and now an ex-Christian. Having spent nine months in a Christian rehab, having demons pulled from my soul. I was also told that God did not want me to live as a trans person and God would restore my body back to my male body. When that did not happen, I was told I did not have enough faith. I left the church lol. I am a patron of Shelise Ann Sola, which is how I found your channel.
Thank you for your comment. As someone who is considered a terf, I think most people have absolutely no issue with someone reasonable like you transitioning. I still have concern for people, because of the health risks and because it doesn't make everyone feel better, but I do hope it makes you feel better.
@@lisao6928 Thank you for reading my comment. I am very happy for me this was the correct decision. Having surgery. When I talk with young people. I always say you will never be a woman. You will always have a male skeleton, Surgery is life-changing and irreversible in my opinion. The real-life test should be five years not three to prove that you really really want this surgery. Unfortunately, governments seem to only talk to trans people with media presents and the loudest voices, these people do not talk for the whole trans community. Then the government change laws based on these "expert "opinions. I am so happy that more trans people (like Buck) are standing up and telling the truth. Again thank you for taking the time to reply
@@lisao6928I get called a terf as well. The ironic thing is, I have absolutely no problem with trans people who just want to live their lives in peace. I’m all for them having safe access to medical treatments and procedures that can alleviate their dysphoria. This is most trans adults in society. I’m mainly concerned with vulnerable women being able to have their own spaces that are for biological women only. And that’s exactly what concerns J.K. Rowling as well, but she gets publicly dragged over the coals for it. As Buck said, it’s not transphobia it’s misogyny; and many extreme trans activists are also extremely misogynistic towards biological women. They are filled with hate and rage against cisgender women and try to eliminate these safe spaces as much as they can, instead of focusing on their own happiness in the world. There is a rape crisis shelter in BC Canada that is the subject to constant physical threats and attacks by trans activists, because it’s a cisgender female only shelter. They have vandalized the shelter and terrorized the occupants more than once. I don’t understand why these people say they’re women, yet they’re behaving so aggressively like men (people like Jessica Yaniv for example). Male sexual violence against women is still just as endemic as it ever was. And yes I recognize there is also male sexual violence against trans women too, but I feel they would need spaces that can provide the specific care and support they require. I think there can be supportive spaces devoted to each without necessarily having to lump everyone together, I feel that’s disrespectful to everyone involved.
I was an absolute tomboy...if you'd have asked me if I had wanted to be a boy when I was 10, I would have said Yes!!! But, as soon as my hormones kicked in at 15, I wanted to kiss all the boys, not be a boy!!! 80%+ of gender dysphoric kids, especially tomboys, outgrow it by the time of puberty, they grow out of it and become happy to be women, even if they NEVER like pink!!! The only thing I would say, is...leave kids be kids, no invasive surgeries or hormones or procedures (which can be permanent!) until a person has grown and matured enough to assume the actual consequences of needing to take hormones, throughout an entire life time!!
I was a tomboy and I wanted to be a boy. That didn't change for me when my hormones kicked in, but as I became an adult I began to embrace being a slightly masculine woman. I like it! There is nothing wrong with it. People don't need to transition, if they come to terms and embrace it.
I watched Buck Angel on this trans issue...I really enjoyed listening to him speak on the concerns of children and he has a great deal of information on it glad you had him on your podcast.
I'm so annoyed I missed the live but this was absolutely one of the best interviews I've ever seen. Thank you Buck for emphasizing the importance on mental health and truly understanding yourself before making drastic decisions. I don't think I understood myself until I was about 30 years old at which point only then did I realize I was comfortable with who I am and how I was born and it was society that made me doubt where I should fit in.
Thank you Andrew for having Buck on the podcast and not being afraid to discuss topics that most shy away from. As humans we are genetically 99.9% the same and yet that .01% that makes us unique individuals is what so many people hyper-focus on. We are all in this together and should spend more time being kind and compassionate towards others instead of taking a myopic focus to the minute details that make us unique individuals.
I think what is really important about Buck’s life story is that he had the irreversible procedures done when he was well into his adulthood and had full knowledge of and no doubts whatsoever about where the surgical procedure and hormone treatments would lead. I am glad he is happy and fulfilled and that his words can potentially help confused and frightened young adults and those who love them find the right route for them. Good man, Buck
Thank you so much for the advanced notice. You did a fantastic job of making sure we were informed and given the chance to participate. This was my 1st time to catch one of your live casts, and it was great! Buck is right: You do ask great questions that really inspire thought and bring out new angles perhaps not previously considered or revealed. This conversation felt very honest and healthy. It was artfully approached, and I appreciate it so much.
Brilliant brilliant brilliant interview Andrew! - one of the best most informative discussion's on this subject I've heard so far. I never heard of Buck until now and I'm now a huge a fan and will follow him and listen to what he has to say. This is up there in one of your top 5 interviews and in my opinion all of your best interviews are not about scientology or any religion (just food for thought :)). You excel when you interview people about subjects you are not yourself an expert in - I think because you are a great listener and ask intelligent and very thought provoking questions. You were in your element in this one. And thank you to Buck - this was super great!
This could be quite informative. As someone who has lived and seen a lot, I know that kids are influenced by the culture, what they see on the news, online etc. sometimes people are just looking for something that might be the answer to their pain, and go with something that really isn't the right answer for them. Some even will join something to be cool, edgy, but the consequences of this are pretty final. I hope there will be some really good solid information presented. This whole issue with women's sports being under attack is something I am pretty set on though. Women's sports have worked hard to get to the place their are now. If you are old enough to remember the times during the Olympics that the Soviet Block countries sent Women who had been taking steroids (or something) to basically make their women athletes stronger then normal athletic competing woman. Men should not be competing against women in women's sports.
Buck Angel is INVALUABLE as an ally for everyone. For feminists, for all parents, for confused children, for trans people and especially for detransitioners. He's such a lovely person with experiences that all of us should respect and NONE of us should ignore.
I’m glad you did this interview. The only way we can understand the issue, is by talking to individuals who transitioned themselves. Only they can help us understand what it’s like and the pitfalls and challenges. Thank you for doing this and thanks for having Buck on your channel. What a positive person!
Absolutely marvellous! What a lovely, reasonable, intelligent, informed and compassionate discussion! Not only did I learn a lot that I didn't know, but also that my feelings, reasoning and understanding aren't totally off kilter, no matter what and how the extremists may scream/rant/demand. AND it just feels so splendid that there is still room for good people to honestly talk, learn, and hear each other in a time when it seems there's so much effort going into endlessly dividing and radicalising us. I honestly feel happier inside after hearing that. Thank you both.
Fabulous interview. As always. This is close to my heart as I've had a trans girlfriend now for over 25 years, what she's had to go through throughout her life is horrendous, but she's come out the other side a strong woman who never looks back only to her wonderful future.
I've been following Buck for a while. I've seen him discus openly the health consequences of transitioning with Marcus, another trans man, things the general trans community is trying to suppress, which leads to people not being able to make informed choices (the same with other medical interventions). I think if a person really wants to transition, they should be fully aware of the side-effects and how it will alter their body and psychology. Even if people are happy with the choice to transition and do not regret it, it will impact their overall health. I have seen Buck say that he is fully aware that taking testosterone will shorten his lifespan, but he still thinks it is worth it because he is happier living as a man. It's important to spread accurate information coming from people who have gone through it themselves. If we go along with the culture of suppression and emotional blackmail, then we are accomplices to the mutilation and irreversible damage suffered by children, teens and adults in our world. I know you are a good man, @AndrewGold1, I applaud you for having the courage to bring important information to light. Don't let fear get the best of you.
Finally, a transperson I can relate to. I really liked the point of view of Buck. This is why I subscribe to this channel: interesting, respectful conversations. Thank you
I think Buck feeling comfortable in his skin is amazing and what an awesome person! I’m so glad he speaks sense to all this. We just want women to be safe and kids to be able to grow up without them being influenced and medicalized. It’s not an easy life. Great interview. Beautiful person with a good heart.
Buck’s story of being nearly killed by a client, a man, who knew Buck was a girl, I imagined has made him acutely aware of the vulnerabilities many women face. Far more aware, the most of the young female trans-activists who might have been bullied, but hopefully haven’t yet been violently assaulted by a man.
It's scary how narrow the gender box is getting these days. 30 years ago some were masculine, some were feminine, some were androgynous and it was fine. It changes over time for many, as you are talking about. People are different, people have their personalities and things they like in periods of their life. Let people live, be kind and see how people develop.
@Linn Palm A major problem in the US is that their foods are often genetically modified. Animals bred for the table are full of medications. Chickens are farmed in massive industrial sized warehouses, full of meds and fed questionable meal. Even eggs are expected to be white and evenly sized, again by genetically modified hens. I wouldn't eat anything from America. It is having lots of negative effects on consumers. I buy organic fruits and vegetables from certified producers. All my meat and fowl come from certified organic farms. The farm and owner are printed on the packaging. These farms are checked annually to confirm that no harmful chemicals are used.
I'm confused by what you find scary? A narrow gender box? I'm not sure what you mean. 30 years ago (I'm talking in the UK), we really didn't have access to information or support of any kind like we do nowadays. If you were LGBTQ at school, and were being bullied, you didn't have a hope of getting any support, especially from teachers, because LGBTQ books were banned in schools. Teachers would often bully LGBTQ pupils and those teachers who were allies had absolutely no way of helping (officially, at least) students who were being bullied for their gender identity or sexuality, because it was illegal much as it is in today's Russia, to "promote homosexuality" (whatever that means). So I would worry less about how people define their genders and more about the threat that the current support that's available for LGBTQ children and teens could be pulled out from under them as sadly has been happening in several US states recently, as a result of political pressure from far right religious fundamentalists.
@@elizabethgrogan8553 I think that has had an affect for a long time. Luck Buck I wanted to look like a man, except for I am one. No shaving whatsoever until 19, no distinct voice change period like most males go through in weeks, and it was almost as if I was getting some estrogen from somewhere. My voice and beard was still coming in deeper and heavier in my 40s. I now actually have a deeper voice than Andrew and look quite male. I wonder if the bull$#it they've been putting in our foods for decades had something to do with my development.
Great subject! Nuance and informative discussions are so important. Shooting down that deep talk, like extremists will do with difficult subjects, is poison and hurts so much. I love that you take it on. You're both great!
You did a great job today - thank you! Yes, this was more gentle than anticipated, but I suspect that's because adults were in discussion & not kids (youngsters/activists) screaming at each other.
Thank you Andrew and Buck for this wonderful and enlightening conversation. I hope there are more conversations like this because this is what we need to better understand each other.
I'd love it if you had someone like Natalie from Contrapoints on! She makes incredible content and would I think give a very nuanced, insightful side on topics like this.
Yes. After having a PRO-woman voice like Buck Angel, you need to balance it out with an ANTI-woman misogynist, like Contrapoints, so he can define what "a REAL woman" is, for all us dumb, confused "uterus-havers" and "chest-feeders"...
What a lovely wonderful guest and episode. Just brilliant and so incredibly genuine. I had some real happy smiles for the first time in a while. Thank you Buck for sharing your story and experiences ❤️❤️❤️
Oh i was hoping for you to make one one this topic! I'm interrested abuot your views on this. My best friend for 23 years is a trans kid. He is female to male and started to transition at 15. I've been there for the whole process and grew up as he did. When we were 23 he told me he feels like a cripple who will never be a man, just something in between. That really opened my eyes and i started to realize what has happened to him. Transition helped him in a lot of ways, gave him opportunities and the high of testosterone gave him confidence... but that's something i, a normal woman, gained too with ageing, hard work on my psyche and... psychedelics sealed my positive look on myself at the end ngl. While i was just going through a normal process of maturing, my best friend had to take testosterone and go through horrible surgeries that both ruined his physical health. He had to because the doctors convinced a 15yearold it was the right path to go on for his condition. But was it? It's not worth sacrificing your heath to feel better quickly, especially as a kid. In our 20's we see the world completley different than when we were 15, i wish i knew back then how bad it's gonna get and not just go blindly with what the doctos say, they are full of c.... i could have saved my friend.
@AndrewGold1 Looking at both sides can be perfectly acceptable when done with the proper respect, sensitivity, and sincerity. I find nothing wrong with such a conversation. However, in private matters which involve physicians, psychiatrists or psychologists, vulnerable minors, we ought to be very careful what we promote and WHO we promote whilst having these "both-sides"conversations. Perhaps give some airtime to the opinion that this is a private matter between medical experts, children, and their parents, rather than a trendy culture war topic. It doesn't really matter what everyone else thinks; especially when they've no skin in the game; please pardon the pun. Blowing sunshine and rainbows up the arses of the likes of Matt Walsh and Jordan Peterson shouldn't be part of any OBJECTIVE, THOUGHTFUL, or CONSIDERATE conversations about gay or trans folks. I hope you'll take my advice. They're too extreme, and their feelings and bigotry towards LGBT people should not be normalised. Calling them smart is a bridge too far for me, and most gay and trans people. I'm not reactionary enough to unsubscribe just yet, but I think much differently about you presently. I was able to shine on your admirations for Tim Pool, and your love of JP... but I'm growing rather weary here.
Thank you, Hairdo Vicious, for sharing your and your friend's story. These stories are so important to the larger conversation, because they are being drowned out in the din of 'affirmation care' and embracing inclusivity. There is so much harm being done to our youths, as they are given limited knowledge and bad advice while navigating the difficulties of adolescence in a society overrun with challenges -- many of which are, weirdly, like being in an undeclared war zone. We need far more understanding of how to help youths transition into adulthood WITHOUT biological interventions, but always with inclusivity and compassionate care -- especially the kind of care that includes listening, wise counseling, unconditional love and acceptance, and honesty about how much the larger world, including healthcare professionals, do not yet understand about what is leading to this surge in gender confusion. It is a huge ball of wax at this stage. And I have come to understand that this rush to so-called 'affirmation care' is wrong-headed, and very fraught with danger to those who are undergoing these radical interventions. It breaks my heart for all those who have been misguided, prematurely, and are already or will later, regret their choices and suffer life altering consequences. 😞 ☮💞
I see things as you do, I think. The issue for me is after having heard the words & cautions from a trans person who expressed strong cautionary concern for rushing to take hormones & have surgeries way too young before they've had the maturity to weigh the possible severity of the changes. I recently heard a presentation by a female to male trans person in his 30s who recently shared scientific studies showing it is understood that our brains dont reach cognitive maturity until after our teens and into our twenties. Therefore out of a sense of caution it seems logical to me that sexual/gender transitioning (forgive me for my lack of proper terminology) with all that it can entail hormonally, emotionally, surgically, mentally requires a depth of maturity reached at that 'age of maturity'. Doing so would help guard against irreversible regret years in the future thus should not be promoted/done until the trans child/teen reaches some sort of agreed upon magical age of maturity. Not that everyone would reach maturity at the same age however consider that we do have cheaper auto insurance rates for males after they've reached that magical age of maturity in early 20's. Same with alcohol usage. New evidence shows that early hormone usage negatively affects the bones, the skeletal structure etc. irreversibly. Honor the child who feels they're trans and is urgent to make the big change slow it down, put guard rails around it for a future timeframe for their own good. Get lots of therapy. Surround them with love & acceptance.
Hi Buck & Andrew ❤, thankyou for sticking up for JKR. She is a lovely woman who definitely isn't transphobic. It's unfortunate that the crazies are ruining things for everyone. I think they actually hate women for standing up for themselves.
Buck, your insight about what gender dysphoria actually is really helps me to understand it so much better. Your personal knowledge, and your willingness to share it, is wonderful. Thank you. Many us of are very very worried about young children who have some fleeting “dysphoria”, and allowed to be, or pushed by their parents to be, subjected to lasting medical procedures that in many cases bring on a lifetime of misery for those children. Most people want everyone to be as happy as possible, and have no problem respecting the “gender choices” of adults. But when it comes to children, we all know how frequently their ideas and feelings change about everything! To see a girl who is still a teenager wanting to get back her breasts that were surgically removed is wounding to anyone with any empathy at all. I hope that we can protect children from such things, and that our laws will discourage anyone from profiting by carrying out these life altering procedures on children. Buck, I think you rock, and I wish you and your family continued happiness.
This was a fantastic interview! I've seen Buck before but not recently. What an amazing perspective he has. Made me really think about things that I hadn't before. You asked excellent questions! I love the social content just as much as the cult content. As always, thank you!
This was a brilliant interview and thank you Buck for being open and honest about who you are. Buck answered questions that I've had and I get it a bit better now. Thank you Andrew for asking questions that I would feel uncertain to ask in today's climate. I understand gay, but never heard a transgender person's point of view to this extent. I'm happy that Buck is happy and settled in his life. My friend transitioned and I didnt get a chance to really understand before she died of a virus. So I had grief included in only knowing him, not her. So thanks Buck helping me understand being able to feel like you are comfortable in your own skin. I'll finished with you are love and you are loved. 💕💕
You’re changing the game back to normalcy again man. You’re an amazing voice this world really needs right now. This was great. No comments or anything, everything that needed to be said was said. This is how it’s supposed to be done and I bow to thee good sir 🙇🏻♂️ lol
I haven't seen Buck since the Maury show way back in the day XD I'm so glad things are going well for him and his family. I appreciate the candidness of the conversation. I have a 16 yr old biological son whom is autistic. Last year when school started again after lockdowns, suddenly he told me he is trans. We talked about it a bit and he had no ability to explain how he actually feels about it or anything about it besides the mainstream known terminology. I said I accepted him because I'm in the LGBTQ spectrum and he is happy that he's not alone. (He hasn't shown any interest in males or females as far as attraction, and I've asked) he gets so sucked into anything LGBTQ oriented and always specifies that "that's you and me." I don't think he has the full capacity to understand all these things as a 16 year old, much less with his diagnosis of autism. I have been attacked by many people (autistic community) for mentioning his diagnosis before because THEIR experiences are so different and they say I'm being "ableist". I personally think it's important to mention and work on via therapy etc. He has been diagnosed with anxiety and depression as well so I do feel it is also a way to feel like he can fit in somewhere in the world. I will say once he "came out", he never talked about being a girl or transitioning or anything again. He's super excited to have a beard now and seeing his male changes in physicality... So this again makes me think he is not actually trans. When he's older and can advocate better for himself, and when therapy has been a thing for a long while, if he truly feels and lives as trans before the major treatments, I will absolutely accept him as Her. Thank you both for your kind words and a fantastic video. I have since subscribed to Buck now that I know he has a channel. Much love from Philly PA USA
It’s wonderful that your child has you there, listening and supporting. It can be hard to understand someone else’s experience with gender, especially with the communication challenges between autistic and non-autistic people. Unless he brings up specific forms of transition, the most important thing you can do is be a safe person to explore with - and it sounds like you’re doing a great job at that! Best of luck to both of you in your journey -a fellow autistic genderqueer person
Great show! I really enjoyed the chemistry between you two! Btw, I can relate as I have big hand dysphoria! I was also the strongest in my class Buck! All the boys challenged me to arm wrestling and I beat them all! Buck, you are a great leader with a true mind. Thank you!
I feel like we live in a time where everyone wants to be a victim, so the opportunity to join a minority that is/has struggled helps to fill that for them. Also, everyone seems to want a label rather than be an individual. I also think we have been too quick to jump on the idea that you have to deal with something the second it rears its head. Buck spent 30 years as a woman before transitioning because by that time he knew that was what he wanted and that he was making the right decision for him. Allowing 12, 13, 14 year olds to dive into it is a recipe for trouble. I wonder in the years to come how many people will be trying to transition back to their birth sex. It doesn't solve any of the underlying problems that actually need addressing. There are as many issues being a man as there are being a woman. Changing your sex isn't going to solve any psychological issues someone may have. It isn't all going to go away and I worry about the damage we are doing to kids who don't know themselves yet. I didn't know myself truly until I was in my 30s. And it's taken me into my 40s to finally be able to live the life I want. Nothing is a quick fix.
Wow! What an amazing human being! I finally get it, I finally find someone that explains it to me as it is, I've always respected Trans people but had a hard time understanding, but this here, this is GOLD! Thank you, thank you! I wish everyone in the world could listen to this interview! RESPECT! ❤️
Thank you for this amazing interview. As a cisgender woman in a relationship with a transgender woman I have soooo many thoughts on this subject. I agree with Buck a lot, and disagree on some points, which is FINE. It's great to hear a measured, balanced conversation. I think a lot of trans people want to be represented in this way, and disagree with militancy. There are a lot of trans activists who are not militant, but their voices aren't always being amplified. There's so much to being a partner of a trans person too, it's not often represented. I'd love to explain more if you're interested, Andrew.
This was an excellent conversation from an intelligent and unbiased approach. I hope you expand on this subject with more episodes with other people like you do when covering other issues. Andrew you totally kept this real and interesting and Buck is amazing. Thank you
Yesss!!! Can’t wait to see this!! I love Buck Angel, my fav Tranpa 😂❤ You can tell he really cares about people in general but even more so I think he cares about protecting children the most which I appreciate so much!! Some may be turned off by this topic, however I think if they actually decide to stick around and listen to what he has to say with an open mind, they’ll realize that Buck is such a kind person who’s genuinely concerned and just trying to help others. Imho he’s s wonderful guest to have on your show ❤
@@AndrewGold1 You’re brave for having him on as a guest, we need more unafraid journalists like yourself who are willing to unapologetically show both points of view & cover topics that the mainstream media refuses to touch. Sadly once Buck started speaking out about the issues surrounding children the activists in his own community shunned him. It’s become cult-like behavior almost. I feel as though not just children but anyone looking to transition aren’t receiving the information they need to make an educated & informed decision. The predatory medical industry and big pharma has chosen profits over people and don’t hesitate to target then most vulnerable people. It’s a shame. Thanks for giving Buck a platform! If people decide to shame you for doing so please ignore it. You’re doing the right thing and I wish more would take the time to actually listen before leaving ignorant remarks simply because they don’t like the guest’s (very valid imo) opinions. Sending you love ❤️
This is going to be interesting, Andrew. I'm really trying to understand, but for me, I have issues around children & womens spaces including sports. I'm all for listening, understanding & learning, however I request my position to be respected too. Let's see where the conversation goes... xXxXx 😊xXxXx
I appreciate you opening the conversation! My perspective is that we need protections that go beyond keeping one sex out. Physical characteristics and sex are messy (women with naturally high testosterone, intersex people, natural variation in size and build). Height/weight categories would do more to support athletes than testing and splitting them by sex. There are cis women I wouldn’t be comfortable with in my space, and I bet some men also feel unsafe in general men’s spaces. We could all benefit from privacy and control over who can enter your space (not just assuming males are dangerous and females safe).
Great guest! I've learned so much! I wish we'd hear more from Buck Angel nowadays in regards to trans teens and navigating the healthcare, the politics, etc. This was SO informative!
My gay 15 yr boy went through a phase of playing with make up/ dresses at home during grade school then suddenly in 8th grade started dressing boyish. Kids go through phases I don't believe in medication/surgery until they are adults. The mind doesn't mature until around age 25.
But if they still want to be trans and have gone through puberty, it will be much harder to pass as the gender they require
Thats the problem with this ideology. We are automatically a transphobe for trying to protect a child. They use bullying and aggression to fight for their ideology...sounds like what Hi&&er did back in the day...bully and indoctrinate kids to tell on their parent...this is happening in Canada right now. A 14 year old had her dad arrested for mis gendering them.
Absolutely, surgery and permanent change is worth waiting on. I get the sense your son really benefited from the chance to try things out when he was young! Trans kids often get a lot from reversible transitions, such as clothing, haircuts, makeup, trying new pronouns, or puberty blockers.
Yep, the "trans kids" thing is erasing an entire generation of gays and lesbians.
Virtually ALL adult gays/lesbians were "gender non-conforming", and confused/insecure about their identity, at least SOME of their childhood... which makes them EXTREMELY vulnerable to being persuaded that they're a ""trans kid'"" (a label that shouldn't exist. NOBODY, no parent, no doctor, not the child themself, knows how an 11yo will identify AS AN ADULT).
Conservative, Islamic, vehemently homophobic Iran has done this EXACT SAME thing since the 70s- Solving the """problem""" of homosexuality, by transforming gay men into (the ILLUSION of) "straight women"...
Trans ideology tries to hide behind gays and lesbians (by accusing critics of being "anti-LGBT", even when they ONLY criticize trans ideology), in order to exploit the social acceptance gays and lesbians have earned in the last few decades...
But they only do that, because it's politically convinient; In reality, trans ideology is UTTERLY OPPOSED to gays and lesbians...
Trans ideology says that ANY acknowledgment of evidence-based sex is "hateful, transphobic bigotry"... Which makes ALL gays and lesbians "hateful transphobes", simply for BEING same-SEX attracted (rather than "same-GENDER attracted", which has never been a thing).
Trans ideology says that straight men MUST be prepared to sleep with biological males, or else they're an "evil transphobic bigot", and basically a nazi... But THE SAME is true about how trans ideology sees lesbians...
Trans ideology says that lesbians MUST be willing to suck "feminine girl-c0ck", or else they are a "hateful, transphobic bigot" EXACTLY like the straight man. (And obviously, the same is also true if gay men, being "obliged" to be open to sleeping with women)
ALL lesbian spaces, lesbian forums, lesbian dating apps are now FULL of men, demanding sex from lesbians,- Often men claiming to "identify as female", despite having a full beard, no surgery, no hormones.
It used to be a cheesy joke that your pervy uncle would say- "I'm a lesbian, in a man's body". Or "lesbians just haven't had the right c0ck yet..." But now we have "male feminists" SINCERELY using the same excuse, to force lesbians to have sex with men...
THERE IS NO "LGBT"- Trans ideology is DIRECTLY OPPOSED to gay rights, and the biggest threat to gays and lesbians, in generations...
Thank you for saying that! A lot of people don’t know about the brains finish being formed. I learned that at 30 years old and it made sense.
“Let kids be kids.” Yup. Exactly.
As a kid I've always been a tomboy who hated dresses and all 'girly' stuff. Now as an 20 years old adult I.... still hate dresses and all 'girly' stuff. I don't however think of myself as a man just because I like certain things associated with the other gender and dislike things associated with mine. That's just my character.
I'm writing this cause I've seen multiple stories and comments in which women described how they were tomboyish but later grew up from that. I never have. But it still doesn't make me a man.
You are like my mom who is 75. I told her today you would be a boy. Was a tomboy as a kid and still Is. I rarely see my mom in a dress. She’s dresses feminine but differently than I dress as a woman. She lives in collared shirts and golf shorts…lol. She could play any sport and still does.
❤ I agree with you- our social prescription for “girl/woman” and “boy/man” are much too narrow. Being human is more than that. And we don’t need surgery to be able to fit in… we need acceptance.
And that's because being a tomboy and being trans is not the same.
Yes absolutely and being trans is not about how you want to dress or the things you enjoy doing. It's about how you feel about your gender identity, your own body and how you are seen by others.
Me too.
I wish the whole trans community was so thoughtful and logical in their thoughts as Buck is. My literal issue is that society is forcing everyone to speak and accept others' beliefs but ignoring my own. Thank you for speaking up for kids.
Jamie Reed recently confirmed what Camille Paglia called a crime against humanity. I assume that you know of both.
Where are all your pictures?
I want to see the pictures of you as a model
@@Ketofit62 Who are you talking to?
Don`t expect "Good, Conservative Christians" to be nice to you. Mostly, they can only deal with people like themselves. Even Jesus was a bit like that. Even if he didn`t exist.
Honest, civil conversation-how refreshing in this age of shock jocks and rudeness! In a world of crass cable-news commentators, be like Buck and Andrew. ❤
I love this guy. He is one of the elders in the trans community. He makes so much sense.
Very wise person.
Amazing person
What an amazing, interesting, intelligent and thought provoking person Buck is! He came from an educational, personal, insightful and compassionate perspective and I found Andrew respectful, thoughtful and interesting in return. This was such a good interview! Thank you.
“Men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them.”~Margaret Atwood
...and in 2023, women are afraid that men DRESSED AS WOMEN will kill them... [cue 'Goodbye Horses']
@@baconsarny-geddon8298 yeah…misogyny in a dress is still misogyny.
Proves that kids should not start the process until age 18 as they normally grow out of the dysphobia.
Yes!
Trauma is trauma.
I love that Andrew LISTENS to his guests without interrupting. Great interviewer.
Very good interview. Good to see kind people having a conversation without drama or malice.
Buck is great. Congratulations on getting him on your show.
Her.
@@tammyrogers9129 Yeah, Buck is a biological female. No one disputes that. I just admire and respect him as a man.
@@joshyg4047 that’s the thing, she isn’t a man, she’s a delightful person though
@@tammyrogers9129it costs $0 to be respectful of someone else's wishes - Buck Angel is a transexual man and would treat YOU with respect - maybe marinate on that.
@@aloo333I love your comment. People can be such a-holes when they’re behind a keyboard. They gleefully dehumanize everyone online, yet they don’t want the same done to them. They’re no better than a dog turd melting on a hot sidewalk. It doesn’t cost anything to be polite to other people whose reality is different from theirs.
As someone just genuinely trying to understand I am so grateful for interviews like this - it also gives me hope for a humane and loving outcome. Thank you.
This is the CONVERSATION we ALL need to hear!!! Amazing, both of you! Buck, THANK YOU!
“The universe wants me here.” Best sentence of the whole interview.
What does that even mean?
@@theeggtimertictic1136 it means we all deserve to be alive. Do you really not understand that? Many in the gay community…and on earth, frankly, fight suicidal thoughts daily. It is an uplifting reminder that we humans all have a place here…because we are here.
I took oestrogen hormone blockers when I had cancer … I changed hugely, really aggressive and intolerant to others. My brother said “welcome to MY world”!! It was horrid ….
A male friend had testicular cancer and had to take estrogen. He said every man should take estrogen for a month so they can feel life as a woman
This is probably the most honest interview I've seen, of a Trans person. No bullshit! Not delusional. Awesome!
Buck’s opinion deserves to be heard. Thank you for showcasing this conversation.
I am so appreciative of Buck sharing his story and facts that everyone should hear.
I agree with Buck on so many things. My brother is F2M. The thing that bothered me about his transition wasn't that he did it. It was the way he went about it.
He was refused testosterone and a bilateral mastectomy by a few therapists. So he got in touch with the community who put him in touch with a different therapist. A therapist that was also trans. 10 minute conversation and he got everything that he wanted.
Everyone talks about how it's amazing and a cure all, your depression will go away and you'll live a wonderful life etc. He's had his mastectomy and is on testosterone and is more of a depressed mess than he was before. It's his life and he can do as he pleases. But I can't shake the feeling that he was lead down this path rather than seeking it out himself and in the long run it's done him more damage. He's a social recluse, very rarely leaves the house. He eats way too much as has put on so much weight he needs a mobility scooter to get around now.
It's things like this that have people concerned. We are beaten over the head with the bigot mallet the second we even dare to question it. It seems like the whole system is geared to encourage transition as a first resort rather than the last and I believe in the vast majority of cases it's doing more harm than good.
Exactly!!
I was a tomboy and could climb trees and skin knees with the guys & now I love dresses/dating men & girly stuff as well as being active & strong. Feeling uncomfortable in your body can be “a phase”. We’ve all felt that at some point. Kids can and should go through many different phases. Let them play with wardrobe & pronouns all day long…but when it comes to permanent self mutilation or puberty blockers…more wise counsel & dialogue is needed. And yes…of an age of consent. Really important conversation, thanks to both of you.
Amen
Being a tomboy doesnt mean you are trans?? You aren't describing dysphoria. Being trans isn't a phase, did you listen to this interview?
@@aurus6483 every word. Did you? I was responding directly to something Buck said about how he felt tomboy did not equate to trans dysphoria. I was agreeing. Go back & re-listen without attack or defense mode engaged maybe?
@@aurus6483 body dysmorphia is a normal teenage phase. Dysphoria is different. Perhaps it’s a vocab/semantics misunderstanding?
I think trans is a little more than being a Tom boy
Buck, please do more interviews! Your point of view and nuance and honesty are exactly what we need right now. I swear we need a movement for nuance and critical thinking!
Listen to his channel and podcasts. He interviews a lot of interesting guests.
Buck has a great YT channel with lots of thought-provoking interviews. He’s fighting against extreme positions on both sides, and promoting a careful and balanced view of transsexualism.
This is a fabulous interview & so informative!!!! Buck doesn't try to shove it down your throat, he simply states how he feels, accept him or not! Buck keep speaking out you are so needed right now to counter act the narrative out there regarding this subject! I wish you well Buck & much success🥳🤗
Well put
"I wanted to walk the world as a man" the best and most understood answer I have ever heard. ❤
*I never say this stuff. Firstly, I've had an amazing response to this episode, more than I ever get, and ever expected. At the same time, I've lost a LOT of subscribers off the back of it. On both sides of the fence I imagine. If you really enjoyed this, please do make sure to like it, and share it either on socials or with friends. As it stands, it's been killed by the algorithm, and it's such a shame because I'm so proud of this one. Thanks to you all!*
I realise some people will see this as a tribal, binary conversation. I implore those of you to sit and listen, and see how we criticise BOTH sides. This is intended to be nuanced, and informative - the subjective experience of someone who has been through it. This does not reflect the views of all trans people - and remember, Buck is someone who has greatly benefited from being able to change the external appearance of his sex - it helped him hugely, and can help others, too. I'd be happy to engage with people disagreeing with certain aspects...but not those who behave tribally and attack ad-hominem.
But here's a question for my channel: should I do more in this controversial territory?
You can't get into the weeds without offending some, it is what it is but it's important to dive into uncomfortable subjects and have a nuanced discussion.
@@nosferatuthevampyre I've got a feeling I'll be in trouble!
@@AndrewGold1 Drew you can only be canceled if you let them, if it makes you feel better you could add a little disclaimer like "the guests on this show do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host" People are so quick to emotional outbursts without considering that people often have neutral or nuanced views.
@@nosferatuthevampyre Yeh maybe I should have a disclaimer like that. And another saying don't sue me scientology! haha but those disclaimers look a bit rubbish. Maybe my pinned comment is enough!
@@AndrewGold1 it should be my man, you can't control how people will react, I have your back on this as meaningless as that might be lol and yeah disclaimers are pretty wack now that I think about it.
Thank you for having this guest today.
I have a child who does not identify as their sex at birth. They are 13 and ASD. The hardest part is getting them to understand that no changes should happen until they know their body. Our hard line is 18 when we no longer have a say.
Recently a well meaning healthcare worker told them that they could connect to healthcare for transitioning.
Thankfully we had already connected to a paediatrician who specializes in caring for kids who are both ASD and gender questioning. The specialist agreed with me that nothing should be done at this time. My kid is safe, they are not at risk from their mental health and they have a supportive parents who just want a happy child.
It is so hard to explain to a child that they are likely gay but also identity seeking but all kids identity seek. I was punk and my friends were whatever and no I wasn’t really punk. It is normal.
It is currently madness watching the polarizing conversations. Kids are going to get hurt by well meaning people.
I have found a great mental health professional who is both a PHD and ADHD. So the primary point in the mental health care is acceptance and learning personal mental health care and hygiene.
Respect to you both.
Let’s hope that the conversation moves on and our children get to do the hardest thing of all, grow themselves into wonderful people.
Ok, 18 as a line for actively transforming is a good idea, but your post is very short, so I wonder if your kid has the space to explore who they want to be/think they are? Do not feel that you must justify yourself. It is just a question.
@@annepoitrineau5650 Thanks for asking. Raising a very clever and high functioning ASD is very complex. Routines and even getting them out of the house for school is a daily struggle.
Exploration of the self comes from many sources. School is hell and anxiety is near crippling. Thankfully we now have regular mental health care. This child is a very complex onion.
They have access to all forms of art and history with regular visits to public galleries etc. We also go to a variety of cultural experiences
I actively search for social opportunities that are both safe and good for personal growth. I am not always successful and feel blessed if we go to three or four of these a year.
All healthcare and outside resources are accessed once I know they are gay/gender questioning positive. I also ensure that my child is exposed to good role models ie Drs who are also neurodiverse gay positive and trans positive.
I do not restrict my child on the internet. I do however keep their computer monitor in the family area where we can see it at any time.
We buy books on request.
We debate issues like J K Rowling etc. The dialogue is open and we use references to ensure both sides are clear on the current issues. All points in question are checked for validity (no fake news or intentional drama please).
In the end I can't say if they get a chance to explore because I don't always know if gender identity is top of mind or driving their current deep dive. I do know it is top of mind when the topic is raised however.
Because they are so smart and ASD they can argue a topic and hold their line. Passion comes with the position argued but i could argue that the passion is sometimes as fleeting as an argument.
Conversations such as the above video assist me in my parenting.
I don't want to provide my child with examples of transition failures so I don't. They know how to do the research and honestly at their age anything I say could increase their resolve to transition.
As parents we believe our child maybe gay or bi but not necessarily trans . We also believe they are in pain, confused and lonely.
We also believe that they need to experience their body and all it can do before they make any permanent modifications.
Our personal parenting guide is to provide opportunities to be exposed to all kinds of people, political and cultural thought and lifestyles. (before the internet loses it's mind NO it is only age appropriate) We don't control them we open doors and let them see inside.
When my daughter started starving herself we took her to a clinic for eating disorders. The councilor said she wasn't anorexic but too much information overload. She is intellectually disabled and when we found out that her class was talking about farm animals and genetically modified food for example, she was misinformed. I told the teacher to balance out the program and talk about healthy eating instead of telling teenage girls who already have body image problems the problems with the food supply today.
@@6422022 I did become anorexic, partly as a result of reading that people were gaining weight in lockdown and becoming scared I would do that and become overweight. My response was become focused on losing weight and developed a restrictive ED from there.
I am also autistic, and I didn't understand healthy eating that well.
With disorders that effect information processing it seems that people can take information, get worried about the implications of it and then respond completely inappropriately, not able to respond in a healthy way.
@@FronteirWolf This is what is happening in schools today. The ones targeted for transing are young girls. It seems that the girls are on the spectrum are vulnerable ie problems at home problems coping for example, disabled children and gay children afraid of their sexual orientation. This is why it is important to let kids be, stop trying to transition them and get them the proper help not what is offered out there today. If a child grows up and then decides to transition fine but leave the kids alone.
Thanks Andrew! I’ve been a Buck Angel fan for many years. Because he’s so genuine, generous and such a gentleman! He’s one of many voices of reason I’m very grateful for. Such a great conversation.
Dude! What an amazing interview! I have asked and wondered so much of the things discussed. As a middle aged tom boy, I never grew out of it but it hurts me seeing kids today being told they are trans because they are like me. Man, just really loved this and really can't wait to learn more and hear more from Buck! Thanks Andrew!
Just be you; as far as what you like without changing 🚼. RESIST Sin. It's a temporary temptation that Jesus Christ can help with.
@@jernisharichard5032 so dying your hair is going against God ?
Andrew always impresses me with his open-mindedness, kindness, and of course his intelligence. ♥️
He’s very respectful of everyone. I love that.
This man is so refreshing.....He has common sense......Bless him. I can listen to him all day
Thank you Andrew & Buck! I wish that more people thought like you instead of resorting to hatred
Andrew is such an empathetic and sincere interviewer and Buck has has so much life experience that has given him compassion and wisdom. Two ingredients for a fantasic session! Thx so much!
As a trans women myself, I'd say he is right in his opinion. We get a lot of hate from all sides, all I want is to live my life and not be beaten up or killed. Extreme opinions on both sides are cancer to our lives. Buck is so down to earth and so right. Thank you for this Andrew and Buck!
You’re very welcome !
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Trans woman ? You transitioned to a man ? Born female who transitioned to a man ? Transexual certainly. ?
There's hate in everything. As a white senior female my siblings and I were beaten up teased bullied daily for our entire school careers. I've been bullied in the work force by people of color as well. This is true for everyone. I put my girls in private Christian school and they were bullied . My sisters were beaten up by their husband's for uears tire irons, thrown down stairs, my dad was molested by his mother when he was young sowas his brother. His brothers native wife fled and left 4 kids to be molested. Thankfully my mum stays took the abuse but our dad didn't touch us. This is a common thread for many people of all colors.
I've always taken the perspective that if gay and lesbian people have their attractions taken as being 'fair enough', then if anybody feels like they're a woman or man in the wrong body, then I'll credit their identity as being the one they transition to.
I very much remember this gentlemans story from "female to male" transition and I ABSOLUTELY ADMIRED AND RESPECTED HIM THEN AND EVEN MORE SO THAN EVER.... NOWWW!!
I AM INCREDIBLY HAPPY FOR YOU BUCK!!!🌎👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
WHATS MORE IS I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU BUCK !!! 💯💯💯💯💯💯
Thank you Andrew and Buck for doing this interview. As a post-op trans female, it was so good to hear someone else from the trans community talking sense. I describe myself as a trans female. I am not a woman. I have a male skeleton and a male skull. I style my hair with a fringe and often wear large glasses to hide my browbone. I also wear neck scarves and sometimes chokers to help hide my "Adam's apple". I have a husky voice and most people assume I was a heavy smoker, giving me a raspy voice. A good thing in the UK is you can not have surgery until you are around eighteen. That's the age you can say you are looking into having surgery. There is a five-year wait before you can start hormones and a further three to five years before you can have Sexual Reassignment Surgery. I keep reading in the UK press about how teenagers are undergoing surgery. This is not true in the UK. On the religious front, I am an ex-JW and now an ex-Christian. Having spent nine months in a Christian rehab, having demons pulled from my soul. I was also told that God did not want me to live as a trans person and God would restore my body back to my male body. When that did not happen, I was told I did not have enough faith. I left the church lol. I am a patron of Shelise Ann Sola, which is how I found your channel.
Thank you for your comment. As someone who is considered a terf, I think most people have absolutely no issue with someone reasonable like you transitioning. I still have concern for people, because of the health risks and because it doesn't make everyone feel better, but I do hope it makes you feel better.
@@lisao6928 Thank you for reading my comment. I am very happy for me this was the correct decision. Having surgery. When I talk with young people. I always say you will never be a woman. You will always have a male skeleton, Surgery is life-changing and irreversible in my opinion. The real-life test should be five years not three to prove that you really really want this surgery. Unfortunately, governments seem to only talk to trans people with media presents and the loudest voices, these people do not talk for the whole trans community. Then the government change laws based on these "expert "opinions. I am so happy that more trans people (like Buck) are standing up and telling the truth. Again thank you for taking the time to reply
@@lisao6928I get called a terf as well. The ironic thing is, I have absolutely no problem with trans people who just want to live their lives in peace. I’m all for them having safe access to medical treatments and procedures that can alleviate their dysphoria. This is most trans adults in society.
I’m mainly concerned with vulnerable women being able to have their own spaces that are for biological women only. And that’s exactly what concerns J.K. Rowling as well, but she gets publicly dragged over the coals for it. As Buck said, it’s not transphobia it’s misogyny; and many extreme trans activists are also extremely misogynistic towards biological women. They are filled with hate and rage against cisgender women and try to eliminate these safe spaces as much as they can, instead of focusing on their own happiness in the world.
There is a rape crisis shelter in BC Canada that is the subject to constant physical threats and attacks by trans activists, because it’s a cisgender female only shelter. They have vandalized the shelter and terrorized the occupants more than once. I don’t understand why these people say they’re women, yet they’re behaving so aggressively like men (people like Jessica Yaniv for example).
Male sexual violence against women is still just as endemic as it ever was. And yes I recognize there is also male sexual violence against trans women too, but I feel they would need spaces that can provide the specific care and support they require. I think there can be supportive spaces devoted to each without necessarily having to lump everyone together, I feel that’s disrespectful to everyone involved.
People need to listen to this. Thanks for this thoughtful discussion.
I have to say, I love Buck! He's such a reasonable, logical thinker. Also I'm loving the testosterone fuelled dad energy. ❤
I was an absolute tomboy...if you'd have asked me if I had wanted to be a boy when I was 10, I would have said Yes!!! But, as soon as my hormones kicked in at 15, I wanted to kiss all the boys, not be a boy!!! 80%+ of gender dysphoric kids, especially tomboys, outgrow it by the time of puberty, they grow out of it and become happy to be women, even if they NEVER like pink!!!
The only thing I would say, is...leave kids be kids, no invasive surgeries or hormones or procedures (which can be permanent!) until a person has grown and matured enough to assume the actual consequences of needing to take hormones, throughout an entire life time!!
I was a tomboy and I wanted to be a boy. That didn't change for me when my hormones kicked in, but as I became an adult I began to embrace being a slightly masculine woman. I like it! There is nothing wrong with it. People don't need to transition, if they come to terms and embrace it.
@@lisao6928 ...slightly masculine women, are more sexy!
@@lisao6928butch women are super-hot! ❤
I watched Buck Angel on this trans issue...I really enjoyed listening to him speak on the concerns of children and he has a great deal of information on it glad you had him on your podcast.
I'm so annoyed I missed the live but this was absolutely one of the best interviews I've ever seen. Thank you Buck for emphasizing the importance on mental health and truly understanding yourself before making drastic decisions. I don't think I understood myself until I was about 30 years old at which point only then did I realize I was comfortable with who I am and how I was born and it was society that made me doubt where I should fit in.
I wish all adults were so thoughtful and logical in their communication as Buck. Go Buck U!
Thank you Andrew for having Buck on the podcast and not being afraid to discuss topics that most shy away from. As humans we are genetically 99.9% the same and yet that .01% that makes us unique individuals is what so many people hyper-focus on. We are all in this together and should spend more time being kind and compassionate towards others instead of taking a myopic focus to the minute details that make us unique individuals.
I really, really appreciate the way in which Buck listens and shares with wisdom and compassion.
Loved this interview Andrew!! Great conversation! 💛🌻
I think what is really important about Buck’s life story is that he had the irreversible procedures done when he was well into his adulthood and had full knowledge of and no doubts whatsoever about where the surgical procedure and hormone treatments would lead. I am glad he is happy and fulfilled and that his words can potentially help confused and frightened young adults and those who love them find the right route for them.
Good man, Buck
Thank you so much for the advanced notice. You did a fantastic job of making sure we were informed and given the chance to participate. This was my 1st time to catch one of your live casts, and it was great!
Buck is right: You do ask great questions that really inspire thought and bring out new angles perhaps not previously considered or revealed. This conversation felt very honest and healthy. It was artfully approached, and I appreciate it so much.
Brilliant brilliant brilliant interview Andrew! - one of the best most informative discussion's on this subject I've heard so far. I never heard of Buck until now and I'm now a huge a fan and will follow him and listen to what he has to say. This is up there in one of your top 5 interviews and in my opinion all of your best interviews are not about scientology or any religion (just food for thought :)). You excel when you interview people about subjects you are not yourself an expert in - I think because you are a great listener and ask intelligent and very thought provoking questions. You were in your element in this one. And thank you to Buck - this was super great!
Buck is a thinker and a kind person that goes deep into the issue. Thank you both.
This could be quite informative. As someone who has lived and seen a lot, I know that kids are influenced by the culture, what they see on the news, online etc. sometimes people are just looking for something that might be the answer to their pain, and go with something that really isn't the right answer for them. Some even will join something to be cool, edgy, but the consequences of this are pretty final. I hope there will be some really good solid information presented. This whole issue with women's sports being under attack is something I am pretty set on though. Women's sports have worked hard to get to the place their are now. If you are old enough to remember the times during the Olympics that the Soviet Block countries sent Women who had been taking steroids (or something) to basically make their women athletes stronger then normal athletic competing woman. Men should not be competing against women in women's sports.
Buck Angel is INVALUABLE as an ally for everyone. For feminists, for all parents, for confused children, for trans people and especially for detransitioners. He's such a lovely person with experiences that all of us should respect and NONE of us should ignore.
He’s a very exceptional person, indeed. He sees everything clearly. Unlike many extreme trans ‘activists’.
Great guest, great discussion. Very thought provoking. Thank you, Andrew and Buck.
I’m glad you did this interview. The only way we can understand the issue, is by talking to individuals who transitioned themselves. Only they can help us understand what it’s like and the pitfalls and challenges. Thank you for doing this and thanks for having Buck on your channel. What a positive person!
I loved this interview. ❤️ Very respectful and deep. I've really learn a lot listening to this conversation.
Thank you both.
Well, I had no idea where this was gonna go, but I absolutely fell in love with him!! Great interview!
Absolutely marvellous! What a lovely, reasonable, intelligent, informed and compassionate discussion! Not only did I learn a lot that I didn't know, but also that my feelings, reasoning and understanding aren't totally off kilter, no matter what and how the extremists may scream/rant/demand. AND it just feels so splendid that there is still room for good people to honestly talk, learn, and hear each other in a time when it seems there's so much effort going into endlessly dividing and radicalising us. I honestly feel happier inside after hearing that. Thank you both.
Bravo! This was an outstanding interview. I’m so impressed with this conversation. Andrew and Buck, thank you for the honest and real conversation.
Fabulous interview. As always. This is close to my heart as I've had a trans girlfriend now for over 25 years, what she's had to go through throughout her life is horrendous, but she's come out the other side a strong woman who never looks back only to her wonderful future.
I'm so glad I caught this episode. It was very enlightening. 2 great guys, for sure!
I've been following Buck for a while. I've seen him discus openly the health consequences of transitioning with Marcus, another trans man, things the general trans community is trying to suppress, which leads to people not being able to make informed choices (the same with other medical interventions). I think if a person really wants to transition, they should be fully aware of the side-effects and how it will alter their body and psychology. Even if people are happy with the choice to transition and do not regret it, it will impact their overall health. I have seen Buck say that he is fully aware that taking testosterone will shorten his lifespan, but he still thinks it is worth it because he is happier living as a man.
It's important to spread accurate information coming from people who have gone through it themselves. If we go along with the culture of suppression and emotional blackmail, then we are accomplices to the mutilation and irreversible damage suffered by children, teens and adults in our world.
I know you are a good man, @AndrewGold1, I applaud you for having the courage to bring important information to light. Don't let fear get the best of you.
Marcus has lost his channel sadly . Hope he gets it back
@@littlemy1773 Oh! I didn't know that! UA-cam has been really cracking down on people in the past few days!
Finally, a transperson I can relate to. I really liked the point of view of Buck. This is why I subscribe to this channel: interesting, respectful conversations. Thank you
I think Buck feeling comfortable in his skin is amazing and what an awesome person! I’m so glad he speaks sense to all this. We just want women to be safe and kids to be able to grow up without them being influenced and medicalized. It’s not an easy life. Great interview. Beautiful person with a good heart.
Buck’s story of being nearly killed by a client, a man, who knew Buck was a girl, I imagined has made him acutely aware of the vulnerabilities many women face. Far more aware, the most of the young female trans-activists who might have been bullied, but hopefully haven’t yet been violently assaulted by a man.
Buck, Andy, this interview was just fascinating! Thank you so much ❤Andrew - great job as always 👏
It's scary how narrow the gender box is getting these days. 30 years ago some were masculine, some were feminine, some were androgynous and it was fine. It changes over time for many, as you are talking about. People are different, people have their personalities and things they like in periods of their life. Let people live, be kind and see how people develop.
@Linn Palm A major problem in the US is that their foods are often genetically modified. Animals bred for the table are full of medications. Chickens are farmed in massive industrial sized warehouses, full of meds and fed questionable meal. Even eggs are expected to be white and evenly sized, again by genetically modified hens. I wouldn't eat anything from America. It is having lots of negative effects on consumers. I buy organic fruits and vegetables from certified producers. All my meat and fowl come from certified organic farms. The farm and owner are printed on the packaging. These farms are checked annually to confirm that no harmful chemicals are used.
I'm confused by what you find scary? A narrow gender box? I'm not sure what you mean.
30 years ago (I'm talking in the UK), we really didn't have access to information or support of any kind like we do nowadays. If you were LGBTQ at school, and were being bullied, you didn't have a hope of getting any support, especially from teachers, because LGBTQ books were banned in schools. Teachers would often bully LGBTQ pupils and those teachers who were allies had absolutely no way of helping (officially, at least) students who were being bullied for their gender identity or sexuality, because it was illegal much as it is in today's Russia, to "promote homosexuality" (whatever that means).
So I would worry less about how people define their genders and more about the threat that the current support that's available for LGBTQ children and teens could be pulled out from under them as sadly has been happening in several US states recently, as a result of political pressure from far right religious fundamentalists.
@@happydillpickle We’re talking about different things.
@@purpledragonfly313 Ah, okay - I just don't really know what you mean...
@@elizabethgrogan8553 I think that has had an affect for a long time. Luck Buck I wanted to look like a man, except for I am one. No shaving whatsoever until 19, no distinct voice change period like most males go through in weeks, and it was almost as if I was getting some estrogen from somewhere. My voice and beard was still coming in deeper and heavier in my 40s. I now actually have a deeper voice than Andrew and look quite male. I wonder if the bull$#it they've been putting in our foods for decades had something to do with my development.
Great subject! Nuance and informative discussions are so important. Shooting down that deep talk, like extremists will do with difficult subjects, is poison and hurts so much. I love that you take it on. You're both great!
I learned so much from this interview. I hope he is back for another interview.
This was even better than I thought it would be, great job Drew and also to Julie for her editing wizardry.
You did a great job today - thank you!
Yes, this was more gentle than anticipated, but I suspect that's because adults were in discussion & not kids (youngsters/activists) screaming at each other.
@@clairegresswell Surprisingly civil chat for sure!
Thank you Andrew and Buck for this wonderful and enlightening conversation. I hope there are more conversations like this because this is what we need to better understand each other.
I'd love it if you had someone like Natalie from Contrapoints on! She makes incredible content and would I think give a very nuanced, insightful side on topics like this.
Will try!
Yes. After having a PRO-woman voice like Buck Angel, you need to balance it out with an ANTI-woman misogynist, like Contrapoints, so he can define what "a REAL woman" is, for all us dumb, confused "uterus-havers" and "chest-feeders"...
What a lovely wonderful guest and episode. Just brilliant and so incredibly genuine. I had some real happy smiles for the first time in a while. Thank you Buck for sharing your story and experiences ❤️❤️❤️
Oh my god, I’m so excited - you got Buck Angel on your show?!? I love Buck Angel! Andrew, not only do you rock, you just keep on rolling!!!
Thanks !!
Full respect to Buck. This is how the conversation should go. Fantastic. Full Respect.....
Oh i was hoping for you to make one one this topic! I'm interrested abuot your views on this.
My best friend for 23 years is a trans kid. He is female to male and started to transition at 15. I've been there for the whole process and grew up as he did. When we were 23 he told me he feels like a cripple who will never be a man, just something in between. That really opened my eyes and i started to realize what has happened to him. Transition helped him in a lot of ways, gave him opportunities and the high of testosterone gave him confidence... but that's something i, a normal woman, gained too with ageing, hard work on my psyche and... psychedelics sealed my positive look on myself at the end ngl. While i was just going through a normal process of maturing, my best friend had to take testosterone and go through horrible surgeries that both ruined his physical health. He had to because the doctors convinced a 15yearold it was the right path to go on for his condition. But was it? It's not worth sacrificing your heath to feel better quickly, especially as a kid. In our 20's we see the world completley different than when we were 15, i wish i knew back then how bad it's gonna get and not just go blindly with what the doctos say, they are full of c.... i could have saved my friend.
So sorry to hear that ! I think we try to look at both sides as much as possible!
You do not understand your friend at all. You are not done maturing.
@AndrewGold1 Looking at both sides can be perfectly acceptable when done with the proper respect, sensitivity, and sincerity. I find nothing wrong with such a conversation. However, in private matters which involve physicians, psychiatrists or psychologists, vulnerable minors, we ought to be very careful what we promote and WHO we promote whilst having these "both-sides"conversations. Perhaps give some airtime to the opinion that this is a private matter between medical experts, children, and their parents, rather than a trendy culture war topic. It doesn't really matter what everyone else thinks; especially when they've no skin in the game; please pardon the pun. Blowing sunshine and rainbows up the arses of the likes of Matt Walsh and Jordan Peterson shouldn't be part of any OBJECTIVE, THOUGHTFUL, or CONSIDERATE conversations about gay or trans folks. I hope you'll take my advice. They're too extreme, and their feelings and bigotry towards LGBT people should not be normalised. Calling them smart is a bridge too far for me, and most gay and trans people. I'm not reactionary enough to unsubscribe just yet, but I think much differently about you presently. I was able to shine on your admirations for Tim Pool, and your love of JP... but I'm growing rather weary here.
Thank you, Hairdo Vicious, for sharing your and your friend's story. These stories are so important to the larger conversation, because they are being drowned out in the din of 'affirmation care' and embracing inclusivity. There is so much harm being done to our youths, as they are given limited knowledge and bad advice while navigating the difficulties of adolescence in a society overrun with challenges -- many of which are, weirdly, like being in an undeclared war zone.
We need far more understanding of how to help youths transition into adulthood WITHOUT biological interventions, but always with inclusivity and compassionate care -- especially the kind of care that includes listening, wise counseling, unconditional love and acceptance, and honesty about how much the larger world, including healthcare professionals, do not yet understand about what is leading to this surge in gender confusion. It is a huge ball of wax at this stage. And I have come to understand that this rush to so-called 'affirmation care' is wrong-headed, and very fraught with danger to those who are undergoing these radical interventions.
It breaks my heart for all those who have been misguided, prematurely, and are already or will later, regret their choices and suffer life altering consequences. 😞 ☮💞
I see things as you do, I think. The issue for me is after having heard the words & cautions from a trans person who expressed strong cautionary concern for rushing to take hormones & have surgeries way too young before they've had the maturity to weigh the possible severity of the changes.
I recently heard a presentation by a female to male trans person in his 30s who recently shared scientific studies showing it is understood that our brains dont reach cognitive maturity until after our teens and into our twenties. Therefore out of a sense of caution it seems logical to me that sexual/gender transitioning (forgive me for my lack of proper terminology) with all that it can entail hormonally, emotionally, surgically, mentally requires a depth of maturity reached at that 'age of maturity'. Doing so would help guard against irreversible regret years in the future thus should not be promoted/done until the trans child/teen reaches some sort of agreed upon magical age of maturity. Not that everyone would reach maturity at the same age however consider that we do have cheaper auto insurance rates for males after they've reached that magical age of maturity in early 20's. Same with alcohol usage.
New evidence shows that early hormone usage negatively affects the bones, the skeletal structure etc. irreversibly.
Honor the child who feels they're trans and is urgent to make the big change slow it down, put guard rails around it for a future timeframe for their own good. Get lots of therapy. Surround them with love & acceptance.
Hi Buck & Andrew ❤, thankyou for sticking up for JKR. She is a lovely woman who definitely isn't transphobic. It's unfortunate that the crazies are ruining things for everyone. I think they actually hate women for standing up for themselves.
Buck, your insight about what gender dysphoria actually is really helps me to understand it so much better. Your personal knowledge, and your willingness to share it, is wonderful. Thank you. Many us of are very very worried about young children who have some fleeting “dysphoria”, and allowed to be, or pushed by their parents to be, subjected to lasting medical procedures that in many cases bring on a lifetime of misery for those children. Most people want everyone to be as happy as possible, and have no problem respecting the “gender choices” of adults. But when it comes to children, we all know how frequently their ideas and feelings change about everything! To see a girl who is still a teenager wanting to get back her breasts that were surgically removed is wounding to anyone with any empathy at all. I hope that we can protect children from such things, and that our laws will discourage anyone from profiting by carrying out these life altering procedures on children.
Buck, I think you rock, and I wish you and your family continued happiness.
This was a fantastic interview! I've seen Buck before but not recently. What an amazing perspective he has. Made me really think about things that I hadn't before. You asked excellent questions! I love the social content just as much as the cult content. As always, thank you!
This was a brilliant interview and thank you Buck for being open and honest about who you are. Buck answered questions that I've had and I get it a bit better now. Thank you Andrew for asking questions that I would feel uncertain to ask in today's climate. I understand gay, but never heard a transgender person's point of view to this extent. I'm happy that Buck is happy and settled in his life. My friend transitioned and I didnt get a chance to really understand before she died of a virus. So I had grief included in only knowing him, not her. So thanks Buck helping me understand being able to feel like you are comfortable in your own skin. I'll finished with you are love and you are loved. 💕💕
So sorry for your loss ❤
@@littlemy1773 thank you! It was difficult as it was just overwhelming grieving someone that you loved, but didnt really understand who they wete.
@@mlove.1376 I can’t begin to imagine, much love to you ❤️
You’re changing the game back to normalcy again man. You’re an amazing voice this world really needs right now. This was great. No comments or anything, everything that needed to be said was said. This is how it’s supposed to be done and I bow to thee good sir 🙇🏻♂️ lol
Thank you so much for this. Buck is the hero the world needs.
Can't believe I missed the notification for this! So glad I came by this awesome interview ❤
I haven't seen Buck since the Maury show way back in the day XD I'm so glad things are going well for him and his family. I appreciate the candidness of the conversation. I have a 16 yr old biological son whom is autistic. Last year when school started again after lockdowns, suddenly he told me he is trans. We talked about it a bit and he had no ability to explain how he actually feels about it or anything about it besides the mainstream known terminology. I said I accepted him because I'm in the LGBTQ spectrum and he is happy that he's not alone. (He hasn't shown any interest in males or females as far as attraction, and I've asked) he gets so sucked into anything LGBTQ oriented and always specifies that "that's you and me." I don't think he has the full capacity to understand all these things as a 16 year old, much less with his diagnosis of autism. I have been attacked by many people (autistic community) for mentioning his diagnosis before because THEIR experiences are so different and they say I'm being "ableist". I personally think it's important to mention and work on via therapy etc. He has been diagnosed with anxiety and depression as well so I do feel it is also a way to feel like he can fit in somewhere in the world. I will say once he "came out", he never talked about being a girl or transitioning or anything again. He's super excited to have a beard now and seeing his male changes in physicality... So this again makes me think he is not actually trans. When he's older and can advocate better for himself, and when therapy has been a thing for a long while, if he truly feels and lives as trans before the major treatments, I will absolutely accept him as Her.
Thank you both for your kind words and a fantastic video. I have since subscribed to Buck now that I know he has a channel. Much love from Philly PA USA
It’s wonderful that your child has you there, listening and supporting. It can be hard to understand someone else’s experience with gender, especially with the communication challenges between autistic and non-autistic people.
Unless he brings up specific forms of transition, the most important thing you can do is be a safe person to explore with - and it sounds like you’re doing a great job at that! Best of luck to both of you in your journey -a fellow autistic genderqueer person
@@crowcalls that means ever so much to me! Thank you wholeheartedly 🖤 much love to you
Thank you Andrew for this excellent interview. Your questions were really thought provoking, and Buck is such a fabulous, engaging personality 😊
Great show! I really enjoyed the chemistry between you two! Btw, I can relate as I have big hand dysphoria! I was also the strongest in my class Buck! All the boys challenged me to arm wrestling and I beat them all! Buck, you are a great leader with a true mind. Thank you!
Thank you also to Andrew! I think you are a new favorite 😍!
Thank you thank you thank you… Buck and Andrew this was fantastic… open and honest … let kids be kids with out labels… from south australia
I feel like we live in a time where everyone wants to be a victim, so the opportunity to join a minority that is/has struggled helps to fill that for them. Also, everyone seems to want a label rather than be an individual. I also think we have been too quick to jump on the idea that you have to deal with something the second it rears its head. Buck spent 30 years as a woman before transitioning because by that time he knew that was what he wanted and that he was making the right decision for him. Allowing 12, 13, 14 year olds to dive into it is a recipe for trouble. I wonder in the years to come how many people will be trying to transition back to their birth sex. It doesn't solve any of the underlying problems that actually need addressing. There are as many issues being a man as there are being a woman. Changing your sex isn't going to solve any psychological issues someone may have. It isn't all going to go away and I worry about the damage we are doing to kids who don't know themselves yet. I didn't know myself truly until I was in my 30s. And it's taken me into my 40s to finally be able to live the life I want. Nothing is a quick fix.
What a great conversation! I appreciate and immediately subscribed!
Wow! What an amazing human being! I finally get it, I finally find someone that explains it to me as it is, I've always respected Trans people but had a hard time understanding, but this here, this is GOLD! Thank you, thank you! I wish everyone in the world could listen to this interview! RESPECT! ❤️
What a great interview! Thank you Andrew, thank you Buck! Buck, you are a real MENSH, all my respect! I wish you all the Best! XX
This was such a great conversation! Thanks ❤
So excited to watch this, I love Buck and I’ve recently been binging Andrew’s past videos.
Absolutely loved this interview!
Thank you Buck for the clarification between "SEEN" and "FEEL".
Buck gave me some great advice about my teen daughter recently. Go tranpa buck, go!! This will be a great discussion I'm sure.
Thank you for this amazing interview. As a cisgender woman in a relationship with a transgender woman I have soooo many thoughts on this subject. I agree with Buck a lot, and disagree on some points, which is FINE. It's great to hear a measured, balanced conversation. I think a lot of trans people want to be represented in this way, and disagree with militancy. There are a lot of trans activists who are not militant, but their voices aren't always being amplified. There's so much to being a partner of a trans person too, it's not often represented. I'd love to explain more if you're interested, Andrew.
This was an excellent conversation from an intelligent and unbiased approach. I hope you expand on this subject with more episodes with other people like you do when covering other issues. Andrew you totally kept this real and interesting and Buck is amazing. Thank you
Sanity! Buck has a much-needed viewpoint. Thanks for this.
Yesss!!! Can’t wait to see this!! I love Buck Angel, my fav Tranpa 😂❤ You can tell he really cares about people in general but even more so I think he cares about protecting children the most which I appreciate so much!! Some may be turned off by this topic, however I think if they actually decide to stick around and listen to what he has to say with an open mind, they’ll realize that Buck is such a kind person who’s genuinely concerned and just trying to help others. Imho he’s s wonderful guest to have on your show ❤
Hard one. A few people said they didn't like the title, or that they felt that only people getting the change would watch!
Trampa needs to be a thing. Not trans, but want a tranpa!
@@AndrewGold1 You’re brave for having him on as a guest, we need more unafraid journalists like yourself who are willing to unapologetically show both points of view & cover topics that the mainstream media refuses to touch. Sadly once Buck started speaking out about the issues surrounding children the activists in his own community shunned him. It’s become cult-like behavior almost. I feel as though not just children but anyone looking to transition aren’t receiving the information they need to make an educated & informed decision. The predatory medical industry and big pharma has chosen profits over people and don’t hesitate to target then most vulnerable people. It’s a shame. Thanks for giving Buck a platform! If people decide to shame you for doing so please ignore it. You’re doing the right thing and I wish more would take the time to actually listen before leaving ignorant remarks simply because they don’t like the guest’s (very valid imo) opinions. Sending you love ❤️
This is going to be interesting, Andrew.
I'm really trying to understand, but for me, I have issues around children & womens spaces including sports. I'm all for listening, understanding & learning, however I request my position to be respected too.
Let's see where the conversation goes... xXxXx 😊xXxXx
I appreciate you opening the conversation! My perspective is that we need protections that go beyond keeping one sex out.
Physical characteristics and sex are messy (women with naturally high testosterone, intersex people, natural variation in size and build). Height/weight categories would do more to support athletes than testing and splitting them by sex.
There are cis women I wouldn’t be comfortable with in my space, and I bet some men also feel unsafe in general men’s spaces. We could all benefit from privacy and control over who can enter your space (not just assuming males are dangerous and females safe).
I find him so funny and amusing. His dramatic expressions and body language always put a smile on my face.
When buck said about never throw the first punch. I always told my son never start a fight but always finish them 😂
he is an amazing influence for our youth!!!
Great guest! I've learned so much! I wish we'd hear more from Buck Angel nowadays in regards to trans teens and navigating the healthcare, the politics, etc. This was SO informative!