No one makes a better controller than Haas. It’s not even a competition. However, I wish they’d invest in higher quality, higher horsepower spindles. Charge us for it! We’ll pay for it, I promise! I love my Mazak horsepower, but the software in the control is soul-breaking.
There are patriots who are keyboard warriors on the internet; fighting with strangers they see on the internet is all they do. And then there's Titan. You're the kind of patriot a country needs. Instead of engaging in some useless protests and unsolicited pandemonium, you actually did something about what you believe in. I'm from India, and even from the other side of the world, I feel inspired by you. Keep up the great work.
I bought my first brand new HAAS last year. A VF5xt. I've been machining since 1982 and I've worked many high end machines. I can honestly say the HAAS is the best machine I have ever used. I will never purchase any other machine for my business. Well done HAAS! You should be very proud.
I have grown very accustomed to their controllers and operating these machines. I would probably be lost on a different controller. They are very user freindly, and easy to maintain. But the man said himself, they machine the spindles to a .0001", but him touching it, would change the size.... now apply that to machine temperature variations, ambient temperature, tool wear causing spindle load. We have an ancient Mori, that has a ceramic spindle, that holds tolerances much better then the Haas's. It sucks to operate! No auger, no offset measure. Still technically a superior tolerance holder though.
My first machine was a Haas Mini mill and it was fantastic! My second machine was a VF2SS and it was problematic and my third machine was a VM3 "mold machine" and it was a bucket of bolts piece of junk. All bought brand new. Over three years these were replaced with four Makinos and all I can say is I regret not making the switch sooner. I really wish Haas would try to improve their machines and build more quality into them. Running with Makinos puts me in a while different class of capability as a shop. Like .0005" true position in 5 -axis on a production level. Yes, we have a calibrated CMM...
The VM3 was shipped with a bad spindle, misaligned Z-axis ball screw,etc... And required several service calls to even get the machine up and running. It is hard to take delivery of your new baby, the enter of the shop and a major purchase only to realize you have been duped. Getting Haas to step up and fix it was an act of Congress as well. Select was very good to work with however.
Im works on the Mazak lathe's and VMC. I know one service enginier who was works for Haas before and he said: the all part is made in China NOT USA.... cheap china steel used for make a Haas. Haas are not quality mashines.
I have worked on a HAAS and when we tried taking a decent cut, the machine wanted to jump off the floor. If you look at the "guts" of the machine you see why. Guide ways are roller bearings, not linear. Spindle is air cooled, not chilled oil. The ways are also very narrow. An entry level machine, good for schools and starting shops.
Buying Haas machine is the worst decision I ever made , I have 5 VF2SS and the vector drive breakdown every now and then , hass charges USD 10K to replace these drivers .
Yes! They do a great job. However, this is almost presented as propaganda and the constant reminders are a bit much. Flag waving is just fine to a point! Let's not act like we are the only ones who can produce quality as we've been behind much of the world for some time and remain so, especially in technical education and long term planning. Thanks for the video and best of luck.
Fantastic, but name one US CNC machine that can compete in quality and performance with the best Japanese or German machines. I'm all about American made but damn, the quality has to be there...
I know the US is not the only technically competent players in a Globally diverse manufacturing industry, but I still believe in - Make America Great Again!
Love how you promote women in the industry. They bring in their own kind of talent mixed together with the guys and now you have a great recipe for success. Trying to get my daughter into the trade. Keep it up👍🤘
I've run a lot of different machine's, from a fairly diverse list of manufacturers, and it's interesting how many shop's have found that a Haas machine can do 95% of what the high end imports from Europe, but for a fraction of the up front cost, as well as lower overall cost of ownership down to line, due to Haas's design philosophy of "If it's not there in the first place, it can't break". This then free's up capital they can then spend on whatever specialty machine they need for the off the wall stuff.
I can personally vouch for haas . I don't give a damn what anyone says , I've used ALOT of Haas lathes , Office lathe / gang tooling, SL10,SL20,SL30, and ST10T and they are extremely accurate to within a tenth or so !!!! Easy to use , maintain , and highly reliable. If you use them properly and with care they will last a lifetime - seriously . No need to spend 300,000 in a good lathe when you can spend 28-120,000 and do the same exact thing . PS I hate mazatrol controls , they are not as user friendly and you have less control. These are the ps3 / ps4 of machine tools .
It doesn't "ride on the ball screw". I know what you meant though; however, it could have been misconstrued by someone else with lesser knowledge of the subject.
That mindset seems to be what's missing in the older British Industries. I've worked in too many self proclaimed 'world class' facilities that would be put to shame by a pig pen.
Haas machine sucks we bought brand new machine. And we have nothing but chatter problems after we proof out a program. It works than just randomly it chatters. Also we can’t get a fluid face... Doosan and Okuma are the machines to go
HAAS Mashines are not Quality Mashines. Yes they are cheap, and in the Service cheap, but they are not good like German, Austrian or other european Mashines. HERMLE and GROB are for me the best Mashines in Quality and livetime over 10 Years. But HAAS Need Service after 3 years in normal Service cutting steel etc. Sorry for that.
Yes but HAAS is more user friendly than those German crap that causes a fortune to fix we have DMF500 AND DMF360 and when they goes down, it takes forever to get it up and running again and cost is waaay more than almost like fraction
GermanoEllinas Not true I have an sl10 with 15 years and no repairs , it makes Chuck bodies and collets within 3 tenths all day . I know how to use it .
Haas is awesome. My shop is literally across the street from them. I did all the quartz bathrooms for them.
mad respect, my school has a few haas machines. my school is in belgium, europe.
No one makes a better controller than Haas. It’s not even a competition. However, I wish they’d invest in higher quality, higher horsepower spindles. Charge us for it! We’ll pay for it, I promise! I love my Mazak horsepower, but the software in the control is soul-breaking.
There are patriots who are keyboard warriors on the internet; fighting with strangers they see on the internet is all they do.
And then there's Titan. You're the kind of patriot a country needs. Instead of engaging in some useless protests and unsolicited pandemonium, you actually did something about what you believe in.
I'm from India, and even from the other side of the world, I feel inspired by you. Keep up the great work.
Im a machine operator from germany and I have to say that Haas are low standart here. Buy a Hermle or a DMG if you want to make precise work
I bought my first brand new HAAS last year. A VF5xt. I've been machining since 1982 and I've worked many high end machines. I can honestly say the HAAS is the best machine I have ever used. I will never purchase any other machine for my business. Well done HAAS! You should be very proud.
I have grown very accustomed to their controllers and operating these machines. I would probably be lost on a different controller. They are very user freindly, and easy to maintain. But the man said himself, they machine the spindles to a .0001", but him touching it, would change the size.... now apply that to machine temperature variations, ambient temperature, tool wear causing spindle load. We have an ancient Mori, that has a ceramic spindle, that holds tolerances much better then the Haas's. It sucks to operate! No auger, no offset measure. Still technically a superior tolerance holder though.
They're pretty legit
These guys probably get paid 18 an hr and they deserve much more
My first machine was a Haas Mini mill and it was fantastic! My second machine was a VF2SS and it was problematic and my third machine was a VM3 "mold machine" and it was a bucket of bolts piece of junk. All bought brand new. Over three years these were replaced with four Makinos and all I can say is I regret not making the switch sooner. I really wish Haas would try to improve their machines and build more quality into them. Running with Makinos puts me in a while different class of capability as a shop. Like .0005" true position in 5 -axis on a production level. Yes, we have a calibrated CMM...
The VM3 was shipped with a bad spindle, misaligned Z-axis ball screw,etc... And required several service calls to even get the machine up and running. It is hard to take delivery of your new baby, the enter of the shop and a major purchase only to realize you have been duped. Getting Haas to step up and fix it was an act of Congress as well. Select was very good to work with however.
Selway...
@@robertw4608 Out of curiosity, how did you know your Z axis ball screw was out of alignment? Did it sound different?
TITAN is a little dramatic lol BOOM
Yes... but this is old.
I smile much more now lol
yea but it got peoples attention eh ? :) thousands of people are excited again about CNC!
@@TITANSofCNC Please tell me the real Titan shouts BOOM when his dinner gets put infront of him!
Im works on the Mazak lathe's and VMC. I know one service enginier who was works for Haas before and he said: the all part is made in China NOT USA.... cheap china steel used for make a Haas. Haas are not quality mashines.
Titan get's to test cut area and is like
"OK Robert stand aside I'll tell you if this baby works well or not!"
thanks for this from South Africa🙂🙂🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Used to live in oxnard, would give almost anything up to move back there and maybe work for this company... Winters in Finland are cold....
I have worked on a HAAS and when we tried taking a decent cut, the machine wanted to jump off the floor. If you look at the "guts" of the machine you see why. Guide ways are roller bearings, not linear. Spindle is air cooled, not chilled oil. The ways are also very narrow. An entry level machine, good for schools and starting shops.
Buying Haas machine is the worst decision I ever made , I have 5 VF2SS and the vector drive breakdown every now and then , hass charges USD 10K to replace these drivers .
its funny how they say 100% american...but i know for a fact that those spindles are made in germany :D
I know the spindles are assembled and fitted there, but the components may be made in Germany I dont know.
the casting are made in china, and the prob built in the UK
Yes! They do a great job. However, this is almost presented as propaganda and the constant reminders are a bit much. Flag waving is just fine to a point! Let's not act like we are the only ones who can produce quality as we've been behind much of the world for some time and remain so, especially in technical education and long term planning. Thanks for the video and best of luck.
Yep totally agree. This is just annoying. NYC CNC can do this much better. Much more technical stuff and much less 'MERRYCA.
Then why is MIT still the top school? Hmm? If we are so far behind.....
First CNC.......from MIT
Fantastic, but name one US CNC machine that can compete in quality and performance with the best Japanese or German machines. I'm all about American made but damn, the quality has to be there...
I know the US is not the only technically competent players in a Globally diverse manufacturing industry, but I still believe in - Make America Great Again!
HAAS lack ridgidity for anything other than plastic, aluminum, and low carbon steel. Depends on what you're trying to do.
Love how you promote women in the industry. They bring in their own kind of talent mixed together with the guys and now you have a great recipe for success. Trying to get my daughter into the trade. Keep it up👍🤘
We get it. It's made in the USA.
btw Titan, just because it's made in the USA doesn't make it superior.
Made in Japan is way better lol
Anyone heard of a brand called Mazak?
Strothy2
DMG mori are great, but there are not enough knowledgeable technicians here in usa to fix them. At least here in california.
DMG 1+
dmg mori, are they german made?
KEY question: Where the castings come from?
A CNC. Oh...wait...😦
Haas uses several foundries, all located in the USA. IIRC, one of the biggest is somewhere in Texas.
Can't trust haas 5 axis for materials like steel, titanium or harder materials.
We recently bought GM-2 5axis gantry mill. Absolute nightmare.
Love the way you explain!
yeah nice machines for my garage, but at my Company i use the Hermle Machines from Germany
I've run a lot of different machine's, from a fairly diverse list of manufacturers, and it's interesting how many shop's have found that a Haas machine can do 95% of what the high end imports from Europe, but for a fraction of the up front cost, as well as lower overall cost of ownership down to line, due to Haas's design philosophy of "If it's not there in the first place, it can't break". This then free's up capital they can then spend on whatever specialty machine they need for the off the wall stuff.
Haas sell all over the world. We have a UMC 750 in Rangiora, Canterbury, New Zealand !! #SprintCNC
phil kennedy New Zealand!!!
6:40 Boeing needs to see this!
CNC's building CNC's.
*how meta can you go with this?*
One day we all stay home + wait for the chk🤣🤣🤣🙄
So when will you visit Hurco and C.R.Onsrud.
The AR10 lower camio was interesting.
I can personally vouch for haas . I don't give a damn what anyone says , I've used ALOT of Haas lathes , Office lathe / gang tooling, SL10,SL20,SL30, and ST10T and they are extremely accurate to within a tenth or so !!!! Easy to use , maintain , and highly reliable. If you use them properly and with care they will last a lifetime - seriously . No need to spend 300,000 in a good lathe when you can spend 28-120,000 and do the same exact thing . PS I hate mazatrol controls , they are not as user friendly and you have less control. These are the ps3 / ps4 of machine tools .
I am a machine operator and i love it.imaging if you now programing
It doesn't "ride on the ball screw". I know what you meant though; however, it could have been misconstrued by someone else with lesser knowledge of the subject.
Must be bilingual to work in that made in America plant lol..
Time for you to learn a second language
Currently in seattle studying this
Awesome
Great! Undescrible video! Thanks Titan!
That mindset seems to be what's missing in the older British Industries. I've worked in too many self proclaimed 'world class' facilities that would be put to shame by a pig pen.
Now built a good f1 car next
Qualidade de ponta a ponta.
but i see only mexican workers inside
AWESOME MADE IN THE USA AWESOME
Mazak all the way. Built in usa as well, Kentucky. A lot more rigid .
@sammy But Mazaks are build all over the place - Japan, UK, China, USA...
We had one in come to Arabi, louisiana. Big blue. In 1993, maybe 94. I would stand in Awe of that beast
I belong to india I am join Titan academy.
You never know maybe you're working on the very machine that went to India at the start of the video ;D
Got to love it.
How fun!
Haas machine sucks we bought brand new machine. And we have nothing but chatter problems after we proof out a program. It works than just randomly it chatters. Also we can’t get a fluid face... Doosan and Okuma are the machines to go
LOL so who made the first machine 0_0
BOOM
That is an incredible plant! I live here in the area with the military and that place is a bastion of what AMERICA can do!
I want to tour
MEU SONHO. "MY DREAM"
haas has to be worst of cnc machienes you can get. If you push it get doosan instead. 1000m/min easy
HAAS Mashines are not Quality Mashines. Yes they are cheap, and in the Service cheap, but they are not good like German, Austrian or other european Mashines. HERMLE and GROB are for me the best Mashines in Quality and livetime over 10 Years. But HAAS Need Service after 3 years in normal Service cutting steel etc. Sorry for that.
Dmg Mori 👍
hermle, dmg, okuma
Not true but according to Larry Flynt, everyone has an opinion...
Yes but HAAS is more user friendly than those German crap that causes a fortune to fix we have DMF500 AND DMF360 and when they goes down, it takes forever to get it up and running again and cost is waaay more than almost like fraction
GermanoEllinas Not true I have an sl10 with 15 years and no repairs , it makes Chuck bodies and collets within 3 tenths all day . I know how to use it .
Better than Doosan and other brands.
Jaime Lannister no lol
Boom
All castings are made in China, Haas grains them down