'PLA Air Force Is Being Built For Strategic Coercion,' Say Former IAF Officers
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- The PLA Air Force is being modernised very rapidly and is being used for strategic coercion. It is inducting long range vectors, depending upon no-contact warfare strategy. India needs to be not only aware of these changes in the PLAAF but also take countermeasures although the Indian Air Force is still ahead in terms of skills and experience. India needs to make up numbers quickly if it needs to match the combined strength of China and Pakistan, Air Marshal Anil Chopra (Retd) Former Air Officer in charge Personal and Air Marshal Anil Khosla (Retd) Former Vice Chief of the Air Staff told StratNews Global Editor-in-Chief Nitin A. Gokhale in this edition of Strategic Insight in association with USI, India's oldest military think tank.
#China #Indian #ChinaIndiaFaceOff
Air Marshal Khosla is very astute and more specific in his Analysis of what China and it's might is about. He seems to have analyzed the case on hand in a militaristic approach and not merely patriotic jargon without a strategy. Hope the experts are listening. This is the time we have brilliant serving officers and a Fantastic think tank in the ex officers. A combination of both will be lethal for the opponent. Thank you for being the well read moderator and interviewer.
This is such an underrated channel. Nithin is one of very few strategist analyst who speaks logically & facts oriented. May be other "experts" can learn a think or two from him.
I am sure you meant nice things about Nitin..Me..here a fan as well !! But 'underrated' means "not rated or valued highly enough" ..for e.g. a very underrated film"
Very Underated Channel,💯❤
The elegance of military officers. We civilians need to emulate these qualities
Air Marshal Khosla's shoes shine brighter than a summer's sun!
More shiny than #Xi face
Excellent discussion
Thanks sir
Outstanding talk 🙏🙏🙏
100 percent right Respected air marshal mr khosala we need to have 1000 fighter planes minimum .god bless hindustan and this two air warrior .jaihind har har mahadev .
Why don't you send this episode to the PM, Defence minister and ministry of India?
They know everything man
They know more than these people brother, use some of your brain.
Highly recommended 🇮🇳
February 27'19,when Pakistan Air Foece, (PAF), aircrafts intruded into India, jammed radars & communication system of Indian Air Force, (IAF),shot down a MIG-21 & SU-30,without a potent challege & with complete impunity bombing around key Indian military installations, in broad daylight, exposed how weak, unprofessional,untrained ,lacking in skills & air war expertise, IAF is !
IAF is in no position to take on PLA air force & will be thoroughly trounced by the Chinese.
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Yes Electronic Warfare . Right Air Marshal . All these advice by Air Marshal must be implemented immediately .
By far the best Indian channel on strategic affairs
Good to know strength and weaknesses of our IAF. To be able to conduct such open fruitful discussion shows strength of our democracy (our both northern neighbor envy this).
CCP only wants to create a standoff (without leading to war) and will never settle border issues. PLA agenda is to keep indian borders destabilise, for years CCP has been successfully doing this. Now time has come Indian Govt takes step either MEA sort it through diplomacy (which will not happen) or give powers to Northern Command to deal with it (like CCP has done).
kudos ,,keep it up
One bomber taken out by one missile, one aircraft carrier taken out by one missile. Technology is key!
@Bruce Gilder This would make sense. Sending fleets of bombers in is obsolete I believe because of missile technology. They have lasers with capabilities we really know nothing about because they don't want to show their hand. Man's genius for self-destruction knows no bounds.
Bombers are used only when there's a dominance of enemy airspace. Otherwise a bomber is just like a good target for any small aircraft for shot practice
Great interview nitin sir ji
very quality episode. Hope the India administrators pay heed to the points raised by the Air Marshalls. Its a two way war for India, so we need to up the ante or get hammered by China.
Amazing discussions, great to be with Air Marshals and Nitin Gokhale. Thanx.
I actually liked Air Mshl Khosla’s usage “they got their AF out from the clutches of their Army”
Very good discussion, congratulations strat news.
In 1962 China overwhelmed Indian position with logistics and manpower. This time they may try to overwhelm us with missiles and info warfare. Hope we are alert to this.
OK
Great episode, very informative. In general, this is an outstanding channel.
Disappointed with the way our Airforce isn't given adequate attention.
Long live all of you sir
" Tactics around the world & Developments " India I liked it terms
But quantity also has its own quality
(Eg Germany vs USSR )
One of the best interviews I have watched, very informative
Very good discussion. One point though, its true that our defence industry has suffered coz of policies of subsequent governments. We have produced tejas not bcoz of our government but inspite of our government. So lets not degrade that achievement. Its the learning out of that project that we can implement in future provided we act in agile manner i.e. privatization, increasing the defence budget, investing that budget in our own RnD rather than buying from foreign
Sir please extend timing ... every episode must b 1hr atleast.. it's very interesting and learning experience to listen legends of our armed forces..hope you consider my request
Sir the channel credibility is shoaring up you have got case relevant penal Or guests.. please keep doing what you do
Its “panel” not “penal”
Wonderful discussions with knowledgeable Air Marshals! One gets a good sense of where we stand in comparison to the Chinese. Thanks Nitin for this brilliant presentation and please continue to enlighten us with more such presentations.
Excellant.Very informative and realistic assessment.
Good work !!! Need more shows like this.
Nitin, I enjoy discussion organised by yoi with people with experience, I look forward to watch all such episodes.please keep it up.
It's one of the most underrated news channels of UA-cam. Full of factual information, keeps our concepts clear as crystal.
Thanks.
Very informative 👍
Thnq so much you are doing great work...
Many Many thanks for bringing such good Gentlemen of True Calibre and Experience. Thank you from Canada!!
Air superiority is the key for future.
STILL
T IS FANTASTIC.....................
Interesting episode...
Most knowledgeable and sensible show I have ever seen 👍👍
Should watch Security Scan then. They are like this everyweek.
Definitely Security scan ki to baat hi alag h
Thats a quality discussion which i havent seen in a long time.
Awesome Interview :)
Very nice comments from Deepak Sadarangani. I do agree.
Too many wake up calls & yet we are sleeping !!!! Suffice to say URGENT action by the political leadership as pointed out by the Air Marshals
Super video. One of the best on StratnewsGlobal. more such please
Very much realistic discussion.I would like to suggest one more discussion with expertise from all the three forces as army and navy also has their own air power. Now we have a CDS too. How really they will be coordinating with each other especially in a war like situation with China and Pak simultaneously. This is really a high time to discuss on this, especially by a person like you. All the best!
Thank you
Jai hind jai bharat
Very good analysis Please come on TV channel to give the best picture to Nation Ready Appreciate discussion Quite good
We have to thank the Congress regime for this disastrous state of affairs of defence equipment. How on earth did they expect India to defend its borders with Technologically obsolete equipment and no strategic planning. I guess they were planning to follow Nehru’s defence doctrine of taking down the pants and bending. India definitely deserved better.
Thats deliberate for ensuring we always remain a weak easily exploitable place
Good job sir......
Great strategic discussion. Very valuable information.
sensible graphics and sensible presentation, probably this channel is for the sensible viewers who have switched off their Televisions
Sensible comment
Very informative, insightful and thought provoking. Hope those in power get to see this episode. Too good a channel to be missed.
Eye-opening!
Our policy makers wasted precious time in procuring sufficient number of combat aircrafts for the airforce.
Their complacency would be unforgivable in the event of real conflict on ground.
Wow what an enlightening episode.
China development in defence is impressive
Apply Fabian strategy.
Such a fantastic and rich discussion!
Pursue exceptional ISR capabilities, including stealth, for airpower advantage over China.
Air Marshal Chopra's assessment was sobering to say the least.
Just some armchair thoughts:
1)JASDF Eagles are being worn out by constant scrambles(This is us in the future)
2) The USAF is gearing to *defeat* a peer adversary.(We are still preparing for a 2 Front war, Well said by Air Marshal Khosla)
3)By 2030 they(PLAAF) would have triple digit VLO platforms including heavy bombers
4)We will have zero VLO platforms by 2030.
5)F-35 capabilities as shared by US TPs/Analysts are scary in the best of times and China is preparing heavily.
6)Any more foreign purchases will be instant chaddi uthrao for politicians(Competing with Saudi Barbaria for the tag of "imports khalifa" will be a disaster)
7)Unmanned combat systems is another big shunya for us, maybe like last year we will send uber expensive to fly Su-30s to take out Wing Loongs/Monkey model Wing Loongs.
All I see are questions and no easy answers.
Vitta Mantri Nirmala Sitharaman needs to pull off a miracle and EAM Jaishankar needs to bide us time.
RM can still twiddle thumbs and issue RFI for RFP for RFQ for Alphabet Soup.
No war doctrine
No strategy
No will power to spend on R &D
Shying away from privatisation
Inability to think out of box
Lack of understanding the imp of air power & defecient leadership / management
Misplaced ideas and dirty cocktails of Russian Israeli western platforms
Lack of funds
.... the only solution is either join the US league like Japan, S korea, Taiwan
We simply dont have the funds to match the chinese with a falling economy.
yep well said
1st point i highly doubt it. We are not japan with the border tension like this any kind of airspace violation could be end up in a disaster for the chinese
Akki Rotti Sorry. Ever heard of limitations of PLAAF in ladakh? All these years, whiners said, we don't have enough fighters. Now they are whining there is no bombers. Why do we need strategic bombers for? Is going to bomb beijing?. How effective that junk H6 bombers can be without getting shot by IAF? Can they shoot and scoot in a full blown conventional war? No way
Moreover, squadron numbers would improve significantly in next 5 to 10 yrs (even more than 42). Why these retired experts not discussing about usage of mig 19s and mig 21s by PLAAF? I am sure they are going to whine about Mig21 bisons for sure. Are they pitching in for more Russian junk like bombers? Frist comment itself exposed these fellows bitching and whining about Tejas. Don't they know that Tejas production is being ramped up significantly by HAL by setting up a second plant ? I can guarantee that they don't have any clue on the number of surface to surface and cruise missiles India has in its arsenal either.
@@indianmilitary you cannot rely on effectiveness or ineffectiveness of their bombers or jets. The fact is most of our jets are of Russian origin and the chinese have reverse engineered and employed 1000s of Russians to develop their aerospace sector. They also have large numbers and can therefore saturate our airspace. We dont have an effective air defence system. They have s 400 already operational.
Lets be honest, air chiefs and officials cannot do much if the Govts dont sanction funds. They were forced to work with cheaper and easy to accquire Russian jets and tech becz Russians gave it to us at very easy terms and conditions.
Chinese jets may not be high tech. But we too lag behind. Therefore, the only solution now is to firmly allign with the US and shun our good for nothing non allignment policy. We would have surpassed Japan, S korea and Taiwn had we joined the US in 1960s.
The very fact that B2 bombers were placed shows that US is serious about Indo pacific and India's security. The chinese deployed DF 21s along Lac. The western jets (Rafale) deployment forced the chinese to deploy 2 J 20s and 5 H6 bombers along lac.
Joining the US, buying readymade in use jets in bulk at once or leasing the US jets asap will send a message across. We should also join the F 35 ecosystem immediately. Chinese are actually testing our relationship with the US with the incursions.
भारत चीन के बीच युद्ध होने की परिस्थिति और सम्भावित परिणाम पर एक वीडियो बनाएं। साथ ही भारत के 2 फ्रंट और 2.5 फ्रंट वॉर से लड़ने की क्षमता पर भी वीडियो बनाये, जिसमे detail डिस्कशन हो।
Ty
Brilliant😁
Very Informative Video! Plz Extend the Time !
Who dares wins.
Under PM MODI....we have tonnes of daring
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384 Squadron in US Air Force...... Just Amazing
Russia No.2 with some 3000 aircrafts.
USA No. 1 with some 10,000 aircrafts including 5th gen fighters..
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That is what happens when you have money and your public don't hate the rich people unlike India where we continuously bash AMBANI.
Their navy has more aircrafts than most air forces.
On its own , it's the 2nd largest air force
By PM & India
Great Program keep up the good work. Please consider making episode bit longer
By the basis of sheer numbers 30 Squadrons is no match for 80 Squadrons...We need at least 100 Squadrons..
Sir old F18 without extra fuel tanks depends on catapult to take off from Aircraft carriers it is a stupid idea to offer the new f 18 block 3 to Indian Navy with extra fuel tank where catapult is not available either on INS Vikramaditya or on INS Vikrant we should without buy f 18 we should buy by Rafael m for INS Vikrant and try to get f-35 for ins Vishal and try to make a electromagnetic launching system like uss Gerald Ford
The entire romance of the GE414 engine and folding wings among other things is alright but there is no stobar capability without catapult they are useless Prime Minister should go to Paris and order more 36 Rafael for airforce and 57 Rafael for Navy
After watching this, realised how far ahead they are from us. Combining China and pak, they are 100+ squadrons and we are 29 ?? Damn. So much of pressure on IAF !! what have we be doing for last 3 decades ?
very objective and informative discussion, I wish there are more sensible people like in this episode, unlike delusional paper tigers sitting on TV channels.
Fate of China will be like of germany
Also India has to increase their Fighter Jets like Rafale , Apaches , Fighter Pilots - s Big number games Sir .
PLAAF aircraft inventory is made of cheap knockoffs and have never been tested in an actual warfare. Effectiveness of the fighter planes can only be tested in a war. Highly doubtful if these cheap knockoffs will help them in air superiority.
This is called gunboat diplomacy which air marshal is talking about 😎
Good insight, keep welcoming such distinguished penalists.
I am your big fan Mr.Nitin Ghokhle. The most credible person with credible guests on your show makes it even more beautiful. Please you come on our hindi news channel shows . Because theose people are just jokers sitting on the channel which knows nothing about the matter and shouting without any knowledge. Plz enlighten them. Anyways hats off to you. Please invite these type of gentlemen more often.
Dear Nitin,
While in service, the Chiefs declare that the Forces are ready to take on any threat.
After retirement, veterans claim that the Forces are short of equipment.
This is worrisome. Why this contradiction...?!
Listen to Abhijit Mitra iyer you will get the answer.
No interaction with outside world.
A sophisticated buerocrasy with no broad outlook.
No private participation in R&D and production.
They need to keep up the morale of the army when they are in service but when they are retired they can speak to their mind
Very short discussion. It should be atleast an hour
Stark reality is hurting
It's so scary
@ 6.05 please check your facts hotan is 4672 mtrs [15328 ft] in elevation kashgar 4528 mtrs [14855ft] srinagar @ 1655 mtrs
Discussion is in deep strategic but give ensclopidia in the dimensions of ✈️ compare to western highly sophisticated war ✈️ Second World War Russia no of war head more compare to German Russia won the war same India ad China jai Bharat 🇮🇳
Great discussion and it was enlightening. However it hurts to hear the fact that India army has not modernised or has what it requires . The past governments are clearly to blame. They were too busy looting India and pandering to their respective vote banks. If we don't do something then someone else will do something to us. I hope GOI is listening and does what is required for the army
Strong economy and defense are the key ingredients to safe guard our interest . Develop economy like china or else perish
Its not about past present govt.. When ur opponent spend 4 time more money on defence u will always lag behind him..
What we need is rapid growth till then be defensive, hide and bide ur time
I really wish the Indian Govt gets it that you win wars today by totally domnating the skies. We desperately need the 42 squadron strength air force, which is currently at 30 squadrons. Will sadly take two decades to get back to 42 squadrons.
They really seem to be frustrated with red tapism in procuring process
Ladakh war will be based on who can fire more accurate missiles
Conditions from INDIAN to china ccp.
#Accept and Sign defeat declaration.
#Need to pay Three Trillion USD as compensation to India.
#PLA need to clear all bunkers and walk out of Aksai chin and Tibet plateau.
#ALL weapons including fighter jets need to be abanded and get out of Aksai chin and Tibet plateau.
#China CCP need to respect all our Indian neighbors & follow Indian orders.
#No more military weapons cum support to Pakistan and should discuss & get approval from India for all current & new projects.
#CPEC project should be stoped immediately, should discuss and take approval cum obey India orders.
#Should stay away from Iran by all means and should discuss and take approval from India towards any investment and projects.
#Hambantota port lease to be cancelled & return back to Sri Lanka
##Other terms of order to china ccp and PLA will be shared shortly.
Jai Hind 🇮🇳
20:14 hasnty raho hum per mgr hum bhi kam NH dosto.accept the truth
Sir, China can use Pakistani air fields and Pakistani air Force to compensate for lack of low altitude airfields in China.
One of the many weaknesses of Indian defense planning is the non-continuity of strategic doctrine. When ruling parties change, the previously developed and approved visions get pushed aside without proper evaluations and studies of their appropriateness. No single minded approach is developed that would encompass entire political thinking of the Indians. Result is visible as we see none of the four units have enough strengths to fight the wars on multi fronts. Nor is its Defense productions have taken off and achieved the maturity that China has. Man behind the machine, once recognized as important, has become a cliche, with the AI operated weapons Until a national doctrine related to India's role in the world is developed, India will remain a developing country for another hundred years. India has wasted all her advantages in professional manpower, strong Industrial and educational infrastructure and a well trained armed forces. Chinese not only caught up but have surpassed India in those areas. Indian leadership appears at best, a second class, when it comes to comparing with the other industrialized country. Seventy plus years are a long time to develop a cadre of professional politicians like Chandra Babu Naidu to rule the country. India still has leadership with the colonial 's mentality that makes the Top Leader, a King to be revered and population also has failed to mature to elect the leaders for their professional qualities and qualifications who will serve and lead. Chief Ministers and many central government department heads don't meet the educational or professional qualifications to lead the Civil Servant run administration. When will this change is anyone's guess.
India should focus on quality and not on numbers.
These valiant men served for decades in the force and yet could not bring the desired changes while they were wearing the uniform. Now after their retirement, what on earth of a miracle is hoped or expected that the IAF will achieve in these worrying times which it could not get done in the past 30 years?
Such is the frustratingly dumb state of Indian bureaucracy and the babu culture, it infuriates me as a citizen that our critical defence requirements are kept in dark infinite loop when it comes to procurement. Why does it take decades to decide and move ahead with procurements is seriously suicidal. Technical study and comparison of options should not take this much time that they become obsolete when it comes to final induction. Even a vaguely aware individual of this nation can tell what bare minimum defence muscle power we should maintain to contain our ever growing adversaries. Don't know why government needs this much convincing to release acquisition tenders and act super quickly to procure fighters, awacs, air def ststems, EW suits, BVR missiles and what not, till our much hyped domestic defence ecosystem comes out of it's non ending infancy. As of now the time demands get your pants on for the show, keep your atmnirbharta catching up to the global standards in terms of quality and production rate, till this is achieved, fill the critical gaps ASAP with internation support. The babus sitting on the files for approval have made the entire security establishment on the brink of limping. Atleast now government should wake up. No more chest thumping. Talk less, work fast and more. Else global embarrassment is inevitable. Even Nepal now dares to bully us, how much more nudge the govt needs to pace up muscle building, God knows.
It's quite simple, man behind the machine matters but for that first you need to have the machine. Get it now.
May common sense prevail. Jai Hind.
I hope u get 100k subscriber soon then 1 million too
Sir how many aircraft in 1 squaddan
18 fighter jets
18 to 22
Why would the Chinese attack the airfields when they know are cheap and easy to replace? These airfields aren't worth the munitions that it takes to destroy them. The Chinese will just sit and wait to shoot down any aircraft that dare to come over the mountain ridge to attack Chinese positions. The 100 or so Mig29s and Mirage2000s that India has will be easy targets for Chinese SAMs and Flanker patrols if they leave the protection of the mountain ranges.