Dude thank you so much, it took me 2 days of trying on my own, then I found your channel took me less than 30 minutes finally done with brutal challenges, definetly gonna subscribe, Thank you so much.
Aww awesome dude happy I could help that challenge is stupid but there is harder ones after it. Have you managed to do the legendary ones yet? I'm releasing the last character ones today then the super long ones tomorrow 😊
Dude, your strategy of attacking first & staying within distance of Sephiroth helped a lot. I used another UA-camr’s idea to have Barrett utilize Barrier-All during the Virtual Sephiroth battle. Both of you guys helped me out a ton. Thank you man.
Awww I'm so happy it was helpful. Sephiroth is really the only difficulty here just with the fact those chains but yeah barrier is definitely a good shout. I incorporated that in another build.
Square nerfed a bunch of stuff like the HP plus materia, the ATB charge rate, the Ga-Magic and tons of other stuff but they didn't even bothered with Tifa's divekick, still as broken as the previous game
Exactly lol. It's funny it took me about 20 hours into the game before realising that they made the firaga etc take 2 atb and I was like "why the hell is it not letting me cast it lol"
@@DarkVenimage yeah lol. I kept bringing up the menu and being like " I have plenty of MP wth is going on lol" then eventually I looked and saw the 2 red bars showing I didn't have enough atb. Too used to just being able to spam it in remake 😭
@@Solestrodidn’t cast magic one time my entire play though. It’s so underwhelming and not needed. This game flopped in my opinion. Don’t care about sales. The game is boring as fuck
To be fair, it may cost double, but the difference in damage between Ra and Ga is absurd. It costs more but it also deals A LOT more then usual. It was my first 9999 in this game, the Ra isn't even close to that kind of damage.
THANK YOU! This build worked out for me. Needed to get used to Tifa’s combo, and then learning to more consistently parry Odin, Gilgamesh, and Shadowy Chains, but practice made perfect. Beat it on my second try of Sephiroth. I’m now subscribed, thanks so much.
Awesome dude! Congrats 🎉 what have you got left to do in terms of completing it? Thank you for subbing too! I'm gonna be uploading some other builds this week some point too so there are other options too 😄
@@SolestroThank you again! I have the remaining Legendary Combat Challenges (except for Cait Sith, managed to do that after a few tries), but decided to take a “break” by doing some Chapters in Hard mode for now. I’ll definitely be looking at videos for the remaining Legendary simulations so would love to check yours out if / when you’ll have them. I just wanted to add that I what appreciated most about your video is hearing you talk through what you were thinking as you were doing each battle and going through the materia. I’ve been following some trophy guide videos for other simulations, but being able to hear your thoughts out loud is what really helped me out.
@@anothermarvelfan5142 I will defo be doing the other VR missions again just to record them so I can show easier ways to blast through them so hopefully they are helpful. Oh really? I always just think im rambling most of the time but its good to hear that it was helpful for you :D
Finally managed to beat this using your guide as a base! Finally managed to consistently beat Greg using magnified manawall on Cloud and Esuna on Barret. Had to clutch up on parries to finally beat Sephy but its finally done!! Thank you kindly!
Limit Support is really helpful! It actually helped me perform Tifa's limt and prevented Gilgames's limit in the last second! Thank you for your video!
Yeah I tried that build on stream last night it's actually nutty. Did it with yuffie so I could 4 cast quakga lol. Gonna do a video on it soon. Not sure how viable it is on the summons.
Thanks for making a vid with not only footage, but an explanation. I tried this build before, but I wasnt maxed out and left unimpressed. Tried it again now, and wow... Other very good build is aerith and yuffie atb spam with mp aborb, but not as good vs seph Dunno about anyone else, but I'm fed up with challenges that bore you through easy rounds just to practice the challenging part. Well prepped, you can enter these rounds full hp n mp anyways, so...
Brilliant dude! Well done for doing it, yeah Gilgamesh is always an issue but Sephiroth is a push over when you get past them. You going for the plat yeah?
You can pause or slow down game for decision making helps a lot here like pause figure out who is being targeted from sephiroths grab switch to character for perfect block.
That's actually a pretty good idea, like I said this was my first actual win on this, very sloppy and didn't know he would just randomly go after characters lol. But that's a good thing to do.
I'm stuck on gilgamesh, been using cloud, barret, and red (completely different build). This was a well done video and gave me some good ideas/tips on how to progress. Thanks! Also liked and subbed.
I used the Limit Siphon on Cloud with the accessory that maxes out his limit level... then I used Yuffie as my battery... Transference Module and Limit Support. I used her broken Enemy Skill (Plasma Discharge) + HP Absorb along with ATB Assist... My third character I used Tifa to win. Had Barret in before her, and got far. But Tifa closed it. She definitely is a beast.
Still sloppy but thank you lol. Il be releasing some more builds to beat these as I know this isn't always the easiest way to beat them for people. Yeah the MP is what is the killer you always need to make sure you don't use more than half every round.
Can't wait to try this strategy. Still in chapter 13 on my first run. I've seen that it's a good idea to keep a backup save before fighting gilgamesh so that you can practice for this challenge. Thought I'd throw that tip out there even if I haven't gotten to it myself
That's actually a really good idea with the back up save considering he literally had about 30 freaking moves he can throw out lol. Had to learn him on the fly 😭
Nothing in this game is a challenge. Gilgamesh was a joke like every other boss in the game. Instantly pressure in one hit then spam attacks for stagger. Game was boring as fuck. Materia was boring. Weapons sucked Skills sucks Open world was boring as hell Story sucked This game flopped period idc about fangirls glazing over FF. I played every Final Fantasy, and this is trash boredom filler. For real.
@BetterThanYouAtVideoGames you're so cool that you were able to kill every enemy and boss in one singular swoop of your sword instantly and simultaneously. Please teach us all how to be amazing like you copium Why even comment on here my guy
Cleared using basically this strategy. Some of my changes in case they might help others. I swapped cloud to enhanced expeditionary medal so he'd have lvl3 LB. Then swapped his ATB boost materia with limit siphon. Whenever Tifa had enough gauge to fill his I'd have him siphon it off. That let me use his LB fairly often in the last 3 fights. His lvl 3 lb gives a ton of stagger and basically stun locks enemies so you are free to pound on them with Tifa/barrett while he's going off. Helped me a ton both offensively and defensively to have the enemy basically just sitting there for 5-10 seconds. If you notice they'll be staggered after the LB you can use that time to just build 2 atb bars with barrett and tifa. The second change was to have cloud equipped with barrier + magnify and more empowerment off in place of cleanse. That helped me a ton during sephiroth since if you manage to reach him with decent MP you can manawall his octaslash and survive it. I would just single cast bravery on tifa during burst windows. The last thing was a smaller change I removed barretts Opening ATB bonus since he starts fights with 2 atbs thanks to accessory+first strike. I forgot what i used instead.
@@Solestro yup doing my hard mode clear in between the brutal and legendary vr missions since I need to leveling a warding and a quick cast materia anyway to make some of those easier.
@@ritabeverige4391 Sadly I forgot to save the replay after clearing but, it plays almost the exact same as the method in this video. Some slight changes to strategy, Since it's single target bravery i would only use it right before stagger windows on tifa only. If you ever see that tifa+cloud have a full limit gauge between them have cloud siphon it. You should only ever cloud LB3 with that build since barrett has the materia and cloud takes tifa's gauge. Whenever you use an lb3 or a synergy ability switch to one of the other characters to build gauge since the bosses typically get stunned during those moves. Abuse the heck out of cloud + tifas synergy ability that gives you MP0. During MP0 use magnified curaga + magnified manawall to keep your team really safe.
Thank you so much, and I subbed because of this. Altered somethings, because I also barely use atb boost. Limit siphon on Tifa with the enhanced medal with cloud worked a lot, and I did a white cape on Barret so he doesn’t turn into a frog.
That's a good plan actually keeping the person away from being frogged with the cape is a great idea. I'm in the process of making another guide incase people want to try new methods cause these fights are so annoying.
Hey man, just wanted to say thank you, I got my platinum not long ago, I have beaten a good amount of the Legendary Bouts thanks to you, but this was the video that helped me out the most. The only challenge I struggled sooo much with and no other guides helped me like yours did. Well detailed and explained with pretty safe approach for what's it worth. So instead of spamming all of your videos with comments I'm leaving one here, this is hands down the best guide for RotOW. Some tweaks can be done to materia and stuff, but the 2 most important things are Tifa divekicking and parrying a lot. Seriously I am not exaggerating by saying that you have to parry a lot, it is absolute neccessity to beat Gilgamesh and VR Sephiroth. so from a mechanic I wasnt using at all it became a part of my playstyle and also very important for all the future Legendary Bouts that were to come. So thank you Solestro, you are the real MVP
Aww thank you that means a lot I'm so happy you got your platinum! I'm so happy my guides have been so helpful I didn't expect them to be as helpful to people as they have been. I always feel like I ramble when I talk but im just glad I could be of help! 😁💙
Thank you bro, because of you I finally beat this! I didn't use your exact build and characters, but your guide was the best at helping me find my own way to beat it. Tifa divekick for the win!
Amazing dude 😊 it feels so good to finally beat these challenges, have you done the other ones? Or were you doing this to get the gottadamerung first. Yeah tifa is broken lol.
@@Solestro I was going in order, so it was the last Brutal challenge for me, and I was doing it for the Gotterdamerung. Now I'm onto the Legendary challenges. I'll definitely be looking at your content and others for help with these fights.
I’ll be putting the Assess Materia Earrings on for Cloud just so I can Assess Virtual Sephiroth. UPDATE: I beat the challenge and assessed Virtual Sephiroth at the same time.
@@brandondonato7648awww nice congratz! I'm surprised you struggled with that one if you did Zack and sephiroth they aren't easy themselves. I got the plat myself last night on stream such an amazing game. Time to do the bits I missed like other folios etc and find some busted builds 😂
It is deffo more fun. I tried the limit breaks strategy it just takes way too long with the animation and there's a lot of room for failure. Still a fair bit you can fail on here but the damage output makes it very quick so you can practice.
Potentially yeah it would be interesting to know if that worked. I know Aerith could probably teleport to her ward but using her here would be suicide lol
I'm deleting all my other negative comments just to say THANK YOU! Finally managed to do it with your method, with a few materia tweaks. Gilgamesh was pure pain, whereas I beat Seph on my second attempt. Cheers mate!
Awww dude so happy for you. Yeah Gilgamesh is by far one of the hardest ones to fight, Sephiroth is just a nice chill end to the fight 😂 you going for the plat? If so you've got harder challenges to do.
Gilgamesh can be practiced by having a save file right before you defeat him the first time. You can probably chapter select to chapter 13 on hard mode to get a more realistic practice session. I assume that he has the same move set, or at least he mostly does, compared to the VR mission one. EDIT: Looks like I missed the other comment that mentioned this when I skimmed them before posting.
Yeah I never even thought of that I was having too much fun while playing the game to think about keeping a save before Gilgamesh lol. But yeah it's a very good strategy because imo he's not of if not the hardest in this mission.
@@MalachiLper You can restart the chapter with no previous data, but I'm not sure if doing this with Chapter 13 would just wipe all progress. And no way am I trying it just to find out haha.
@@OverlordShanbo It erases QUEST progress, but not Protorelic progress. I restarted all quest progress so I could redo all sidequests on Hard mode (Since any with bosses give you manuscripts) and I couldn't redo anything related to the Protorelics.
@@MalachiLper Ahh I see, thanks. So for the Genji Gear, can I just start Chapter 12 on Hard and re-fight the intel enemies? Or do I have to redo the Intel to get what I need from them? Also is getting those manuscripts necessary for the platinum? I'm still trying to get a read on just exactly what I need to do.
I got this to work but I switched Tifa to Jarngreiper because I think the weapon skills are a bit better for this build and I switched Cloud to Slipstream Saber, the skill to recover MP when he receives big damage is super beneficial for making it to late game. After that, it all comes down to skill, knowing when to go in and when to be patient.
I loved your build had I been capable of going toe to toe better with Gilgamesh (via parry) I'm sure this would have been the one that would have done it. Amazing work :)
YESSSSSS!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!! I FINALY DID IT!!!!!!! YOU ARE A GIFT UNTO US ALL!!!! Side note, dodging Odin tends to work better than blocking since he won't Reprisal as much if you dodge. But anyway... THANK YOU!!!!!!!
Haha thank you, I just explained it better than some other videos. But happy it worked for you. Yeah that's true if you try and kick him he hits you back it's best to just keep wailing on him. Il have some other videos tomorrow for easy ways to do Barret, tifa and Aeriths legendary missions. Those were fun. Don't get too relaxed though the last 2 legendary missions are worse than what you just did lol. Unfortunately
@@Solestro Thanks, you just convinced me to give up on the platinum at 87/88 after 172 hours. I just don't have the (perfect block) skill to survive Gilgamesh long enough to even get this tactic started, and I don't particularly want to spend a week fighting the first three battles over and over again just to get a chance to practice and die in less than a minute, not to mention sephiroth still waiting in the next round. Nor do I look forward to the last two legendary missions being worse. This just seems like purely sadistic game design, and I honestly couldn't be any more disappointed in Square Enix for designing it this way. These should be divided up. The summons are enough for endurance. Gilgamesh and Sephiroth should each be separate missions. All of the 10 round fights are bad. I should probably quit videogames forever. Sorry for the negativity, but I'm just done.
@@kythlyn if only they put a checkpoint in the middle that would have made it way more bearable. Was saying that today while I was streaming, literally all they need is a checkpoint you shouldnt be punished for not being perfect and having to go all the way back to the start. It's annoying, especially on the harder ones.
@@Solestro Thanks for the supportive reply. I get a lot of people that defend Square Enix unconditionally that tell me things like, "You brought this on yourself for going for the Platinum. You don't have to play it." But I feel like this punishing, sadistic game design is just... bad. Like, I know you're a content creator and you're supposed to be positive about the games you play, but, can you honestly say you enjoyed this fight? And if so, help me find the fun.
@@kythlyn So the challenges should be easier simply for your sake? Sorry but I want stuff thats actually difficult and square nailed it on these imo. I do agree however we needed a way to practice against V sephy. But gilgamesh can be practiced on. Just chapter select, easy, and go make a save before his proto quest fight. Then practice.
If you pres triangle to use up your Concentration during stagger, you increase the multiplier to make your dive kicks do more. It's the easiest stagger multiplier that I've found so far 😉
@@Solestro Ideally you would want 2 full chi combos for Tifa plus a synergy ability with the other characters to get a few more seconds of stagger and bonus damage then throw limit breaks altough I don't think thay gave us enough time to do everything so maybe you have to choose what to do. It's pretty tricky to do since it requires great timing and I could get only 1 Tifa combo + syn ability + 2 limit break once or twice but I'm still in chapter 13 and I just tried the Phoenix & Kujata and Odin & Alexander fights and they are way too difficult now because I was at lvl 49 and have lvl 1 elemental materia so yeah I'll do them in post game for sure! Still weird to me that Bahamut & Titan were a super easy first try but the other 2 fights are insanely tough and very unfair regardless of the level because of the off screen attacks and lack of i-frames when you get knocked down (which is an issue in cactuar crush too and getting hit deducts your point). Anyway great video, I'm going to use it as a guide when I am stronger and I can't wait to lose my mind to unlock the platinum trophy!
The Sephiroth fight is just obnoxious. Who actually thought it would be fun to fight an enemy with 100k health that non-stop spams a move that permanently disables one of your characters, then deals 6k undodgeable damage to them?
Sephiroth at this point is obnoxious, period. I don't want to see him anymore, lol. I love the original, I love the Remake despite its flaws, but insisting on having a Sephiroth fight in every game is easily the biggest mistake they made with the Remake. Sephiroth (somewhat) worked as a villain in the original because he was barely on screen and couldn't spout cringe edgelord lines that make me cringe out of existence.
You've just gotta commit, all the times I did It I was afraid to stand there and block. As long as it's not the exclamation mark moves you can stagger him pretty easy by learning the timing. Trust me I was the same, least with this method it doesn't take long to get to him. When I did the limit breaks method it took me ages to get to him and I was just getting annoyed.
@Solestro I've been doing a blend of Tifa dive kick buffs/debuffs and the limit method. It's been working pretty good. I can get to Gilgamesh in about 13 minutes.
@@mariahtheriault9221 that's not too bad. If you can merge both techniques that's pretty good too cause the limit method is good, I just felt it was too slow for me. I like to be quick lol.
I improved the material equipment, removing the assist subjects and adding chakra to everyone and rebirth to everyone since barret dies very quickly but with the chakra material everything is healed
Unfettered Fury is the same thing as Unbridled Strength, but it buffs her magic based attacks instead. If you're using Divekick as your primary damage method, Unbridled Strength would be the more efficient buff.
I want to try your build with a twist, everything identical but with Aerith instead of Barret, Limit Siphon and expeditionary on Aerith, the ATB to Limit thingy on Tifa, advanced expeditionary on Cloud. A single (properly timed) Planet's Protection would mean Odin will never Limit, neither Gilgamesh nor Sephiroth can hit you for the most part, and you are free to Divekick and recycle for Finishing Touch over and over. In my mind it works 😆 EDIT: Oh, and DeBrave + DeProtect to instantly pressure Odin at the start.
That's a good tweak I may have to try it myself. Making another couple builds on this incase people are still struggling cause imo it's probably one of the hardest ones.
@@Solestro I'm struggling more then my ego would like to admit. I can't, for the life of me, parry with the slightest consistency, most of the times I lose at Odin which is embarassing. If I have to cheese it, so be it, the whole challenge is a cheese 😆
So i swapped time and empowerment. Cloud has the first time strike on, and the atb boost, and as someone who forgets to use it also, this made sure i didn't cuz first thing i do each fight is use that thing, cast hast, then switch to barrett use the lifesaver. Then tifa, and if she's almost got 2 atbs then i attack until i have both, use a dive kick, then atb boost, and use back to back divekicks for a total of 3, that should give barrett what he needs to have atb for bravery, and remember everyone, Overcharge usually fills up an atb, basically unless youre slowed it will. So i can get up faith for cloud after casting bravery for tifa. That also allows me to take off barrets magnify and put a healing on him...im just uncomfortable only having 1 character out there with the ability to heal. I also realized, i could just use sonicboom with tifa, and that will buff her with bravery and haste and i could take that off entirely. Probably best to do one or the other of those changes... assuming you have the enemy skill on tifa per this guide, id say just use atb boost to give her two, then use sonicboom to buff her, get your rise and fall up and then divekick your ass off lol. Great video though, im sure lots of people did their own little tweaks for their own comfort but credit to you for a great base strategy thanks.
19:40 YEEEEESSSSSSS! Yes yes yes yes. I agree one million percent. I don't mind surviving five hard fights back to back. What I do mind is making it artificially hard to get to know a hard boss. The first time I got to Gilgamesh he just steam-rolled me in 5 seconds (it had been ages at that point that I fought him, so I was blindsided by his spazzing). How am I supposed to learn anything from that? Yes I can watch videos, but that isn't the same. I don't get how such things still are not obvious to devs. It's like every game they develop is their first in terms of user-friendliness. I've been stuck at Gilgamesh for weeks now. The battle sim is the only thing that's missing from the 7-Star-Hotel trophy and I'm going bonkers with the last three challenges (Rulers, Bonds of friendship and To be a Hero. The last of which I dread the most simply because it involves having Sephiroth on screen for far too long and withint a lightyear of Cloud.) Seeing Tifa and Cloud finishing off that annoying edgelord together warmed my heart. And finally a guide who uses my favourite party!
Haha yeah it's crazy isn't it. Would be much easier to practice those bosses. I love that team it was my main team for pretty much the game whenever I could use them lol.
@@Solestro Same! I was a bit surprised though that you didn't really use Tifa's True Strike on staggered enemies. Oh, one thing ... I'm sure you know, but in the video, it came across as you were saying that you have to parry Odin with perfect guard (as in not taking damage) to avoid getting Zantetsuken'ed -- it's enough to block normally, so the pressure isn't on that much :) Oh #2, I prefer using Cloud to punisher-mode Odin, that way, you chip away some damage while blocking as well, and have Barret attack from afar. With Tifa, I get Reprisal'ed all the time, which is super annoying. So when the battle starts, change to Tifa so Odin targets her (if you don't have it as your default character anyway), have Barret and Cloud cast the buffs, change to Cloud, have ... fun. Odin on his own I find really fun actually. EDIT: OMFG I made it. Sephiroth, once you have him in his second magic phase, really is much, MUCH easier, I beat him first try (with a Finishing Touch from Cloud ... ooooooh, I love seeing it.) .But eff me sideways, Gilgamesh is a massive pain in the ass. But again, thank you so fucking much, I'm so happy that I beat the challenge without some weird cheesy strategy and beat it 'properly'.
Yeah the vr missions can really get in the bin on this game. I liked them in remake but they just put way too many stupidly difficult ones in this. The ones after these are even harder even though you have the gotterdamerung, which makes no sense lol. It's cause you can only use 1 character in each
Haha thanks dude. I'm waaaay better at it now lol. Done it for loads of other people and my parry skills against sephiroth are even crazier. Thank you though! ☺️
Yeah it's one of the most annoying things about getting to the end. Try the brumal form method video I've done. Gets you there a lot faster so you can practice plus most of the time if you are quick you can just kill Sephiroth before he can get going.
@@Solestro I FINALLY BEAT THIS CHALLENGE!! I used Cloud, Tifa and Barret. And aside from a few close calls, it went pretty well! Thank you for not just this guide, but all your other guides! They've been very helpful!
I found a way to kill the phoenix before using rebirth flame. In short its just using a synergy ability on it and using Tifa to powerhouse it while it's stun-locked. The fights still easy without it but it definitely saves time.
Hi! Fnally beat the challenge after god knows how many hours, enjoyed your build except fury ring it got my ass handled to me and dmg was already pretty good, so gg! time for legendary ones…
@@THESUPERKOSH nice dude well done 😊. I remember when I did this with the tifa build it was really fun. The brumal form build is usually fairly easier but tifa is more fun.
I can totally see them doing something disgusting like making the boss rush in the third game Sapphire Weapon, Ultimate Weapon, Diamond Weapon, Emerald Weapon, Ruby Weapon at this rate
Lmao I was thinking the same thing. That's why I said on my stream "you guys think this is hard just wait till part 3 lol" the weapons are gonna be brutal.
I FINALLY BEAT Virtual Sephiroth! I used Cloud, Barrett, & Tifa. All I needed to do was have Barrett cast Barrier-All twice & I was able survive Virtual Sephiroth’s Octaslash each time. It was awesome. My final attack was EPIC!!! Cloud’s Limit Break Ascension occurred right after Sephiroth’s Limit Break cutscene for Octaslash. The game let Cloud go first & & I won! 😂 I never parried Sephiroth’s Shadowy Chains once. 1. Barrett cast Barrier-All 2x. 2. Tifa’s armor: Cetran Armlet 3. Tifa: Tranference Module 4. Cloud: Limit Booster 5. Cloud cast Regan-all at the beginning of each battle. 6. Tifa cast Haste-all at the beginning of each battle. It only took me 30hrs 😂 I couldn’t beat Sephiroth’s Shadow Chains & I kept having stupid deaths to Alexander, Odin, & Gilgamesh.
@@theoc511there's a link on one of my newest videos to my patreon/discord you purchase it on the patreon then message me on discordn and il get it done.
thanks this build worked for me. still have to be fairly competent at the boss fights so i wouldnt call it easy. hard part being if any one of these guys die the party falls apart pretty fast
Actually, atb assist works as long as you use two command in a row, doesn't need to be the same command. I personnally like the overpower twirl that can be chained with dive kick, or if the timing is starpower followed by divekick to boost dive kick. But it doesnt need to be two of the same command to trigger atb assist
Well I used optinoobs strat and now I can make it to sephiroth and he kills me. So he does shadow chains and then I recover and he does it again like right after. It's weird why he does that so so fast a second time Edit: Swiftcast stunlock firaga after tanking one Octoslash was the one tweak that worked .
Haha I didn't see the point really. I'm gonna go back and do some other stuff with tifa and other builds. Want to see how I can do now I know how all them work 😂 I know I probably made a lot of people hurt by not stagger raising lol.
What I did for the Genji gear was just switch to chapter 13 on hard mode to get the gear then switch back to my normal mode playthrough. I did everything on normal before doing hard mode chapters. As you only need to kill the big monster bosses on hard, malboro, Quetzalcoatl etc
i've only been able to reach sephiroth using the yuffie brumal form spam. But once there i just get wrecked. And ever since those three failures i either get trolled by gilgamesh's cheap rng or bahamut. I'm pretty much ready to throw in the towel on this BS as i hear the one with cloud and zack is even more annoying. a trophy isnt worth this level of annoyance. They severely over tuned these simulator fights just to make it insufferable.
Cloud's Finishing Touch does a pretty good amount of damage, but Tifa's Meteor Strikes might be the most damaging of the level 3 LBs. That said, man I can't wait until we get the ultimate limit breaks like Omnislash and Final Heaven in part 3!
@@SolestroI'll be interested to see how they incorporate Knights of the Round into Part 3 as well. I bet it'll have something to do with the Weapons and that massive materia we saw them carrying. That or we get it through Chadley similar to Gilgamesh.
I just beat rulers of the outer worlds and my stress level was through the roof. 😅😅 I'm never doing that again! I got the gotterdammerung and now I'm happy. Hardmode here I come! Lol
I totally agree with that said that numerous times. They are way too overtuned and they get boring just going through the same things over and over again. Remake only really had 1 challenge of fighting them all this has like 3
Thank you for the video. I am currently stuck in the 4th brutal challenge. I believe it’s the one with a White Terror & White Flan on round 5. I have all tje materia here, but not all of it maxed. You mentioned parrying. I’m guessing that’s the R1? I seldom if ever use it in tjis game, bug if it’s like Sekiro/Lies of P, I should be fine. There’s a Barret ability you mentioned- a bullet that takes off his health to increase damage. Is that from the folio? I’m at party level 9, and having done all sidequests and intel combat (with the exception of hard mode proto relic games), is there any other way to raise party level? Playing chapters on Hard Mode, perhaps?
Oh god yeah the one with the flan and the wolf. I hated that one, best thing to do for that one is use the summon when it becomes available the rest of the battles are easy in that fight. The move is called lifeblood cannon it's unlocked through the folio at party level 8 and it's very strong. It does take 2 atb and half his health but it's a good trade off. Party level is determined by the side quests and everything else in the game but If you need to allocate points you can reset them. If you need more folios you get 60 something from hard mode, some from the story and some from the side quests again.
I was stuck on White Terror for a while cuz of trying to use actual methods for the fights. Once I said screw it and just had everyone throwing every ATB they got at the wolf from the start the fight went hella smooth. Same thing with Odin, keep one ATB for a healing spell and just nuke Odin with everything else. He'll get a couple of reprieves off but the ATB you throw at him easily offset it.
You whacked Gilga in less than a couple minutes, it's highly impressive and with a little optimization you could easily do this in sub 10 minutes. I look forward to ice-skating around with Tifa =]
@@heiral7773 it felt longer tbh he's the scariest fight in this lol. The other fights are pretty fun il be releasing those tomorrow. Haha yeah tifa is so good. Glad she is still broken
Hello there! Have a quick question : where u got your 3rd magnify materia? Ik cait sith brings one if he join the party, one via side quest in cosmo and the 3rd or 1st u should finde in chapter 1... now my problem is I finished all 3 options, only have the buggy party animal quest left... and cant find the one who should be in nibelheim tutorial. Heard that the one u find in prologue u lose after it. So what can I do to get the 3rd magnify? Dont have them and dont find them >.
it’s anoying having to go so many rounds to get to final round , that’s biggest issue I have with the game , hate redoing multiple fights just to try the one i’m stuck on
Yeah I'm the same dude, it gets worse after this one. The last couple you need to do are 10 rounds which takes about 45 mins to 1 hour each... And if you die you are going right back. I hate it.
The build is really good but Gilgamesh is destroying me. He has so many attacks, which is makes him a great fight but fighting through the first three phases all over again is tough
You could always try the magic build instead of this if Gilgamesh is the problem. I'm probably gonna release a couple videos showing various builds to do this because one build doesn't always work for everyone.
Idk how you say gilgamesh is harder sephiroth is giving me ptsd he keeps catching the team I don’t fail parry at all but he keeps catching everyone and stop us from doing anything
It's cause Gilgamesh can do more BS than Sephiroth he has debuffs. Can turn you into a frog, remove your buffs. Sephiroth is just "I'm gonna do shadowy chains" just parry that and spam magic at him or divekick the crap out of him lol.
Tell me you didn't watch the video fully, without telling me you didn't watch the video fully, lmao. he literally shows he did he likes to slow down time instead so he didn't use it.
I'm terrible with the shortcuts lol. I tried using them on a couple of my runs it just made me play worse. I didn't use them in remake either so I guess that's why I'm not used to it. Plus it's kinda cool slowing the game down lol
I combed through like 2/3 of the comments before posting because I didn't see any mention of it, but why did you give Cloud the Rune Blade (Magical Weapon)? Does his improved magical attack (not mp) affect his buffed spells in some way or help nullify the attacks with the armor-materia slot? I hope this question makes sense lol this game so complicated in all the worst ways.
Haha no that makes perfect sense. Tbh I didn't really think about the other characters it was mostly focused on tifa. Im gonna be making a much easier method for this soon so keep an eye out for that. But if you utilise all characters in this method with tifa it goes a lot faster lol.
I'm still struggling against Sephiroth, I'm not good at the parry at all and it takes so long to even get to him to practice. I really hate that Shadowy chains moves. I need a method that doesn't need to parry so much..
I can get gilgamesh about half way. But i run out of magic and can't build atb quicj enough . I took off the atb boosts because i need assess materia, as well as barrier and revive on tifa.
You don't need assess materia just remember what they do. That saves you one slot you can use for something more beneficial. Also if you are running out of MP you can pair MP absorb materia with the spell you are using to get some back
also you can perfect block Sephiroths shadowy chains. if you switch to the character hes targetting and parry the initial slash it staggers him. not sure if you can parry the one that starts with a projectile but i got through the entire fight with only taking one octoslash.
Edit: Swiftcast stunlock finally worked on VR Im at attempt 300 or so. I instantly die on gilgamesh, it takes me about 6 hours to get through the attempts to actually get to him and now I have a strategy but it's too late because every time I get back there he's going to beat me again and again because I instantly die there's no down time at all whatsoever I don't know what to do anymore I'm thinking of changing my build again but it's not going to work. I have to slog through 6 summons in three rounds every single time I want to get to the guy that I'm trying to destroy and then he immediately kills me zero down time again zero down time it doesn't matter what I do for some reason fire max strength twice with the genji glove and 500 magic didn't do anything I don't understand what the fuck my problem is I don't understand why I can't just kill this thing its weak to fire I use fire and then it immediately jumps up again after its pressured for 3 seconds and then kills me again I'm sick of it I wish there was another strategy I have tried all of your biuilds and every other build on UA-cam that has the strategy listed I've also gone on Reddit and Facebook and a bunch of video game sites it's to the point where I'm looking for strategies every single day to see if something updated or somebody refreshed I need help here I don't understand why can't I just have a strong party that can get through this I don't understand why I have to use the stupid brumal form, and the dive kick doesn't work on Gilgamesh there's no chance for me to actually practice him unless I can go fight him right now on his Island but I already killed him. He was much easier back then I don't understand what happened Edit now I got Gilgamesh now sephiroth is destroying me
@@supersaiyanzero386 if you are still having problems dude save yourself the stress and just go through my patreon store and let me do it for you lol. That's way too much stress/time to put into that.
Yeah I got really "lucky" parrying almost everything Gilgamesh did lol. Only thing I got lucky with was tifa not getting frogged from that 1 attack lol
I don't think it was an Asian guy? The one I saw just had literally no explanation so just had to figure it out. It's all cool showing a fast video bragging essentially but you gotta explain it to people.lol.
When i play this game all my wife sees is min games and combat simulators shes like what is this game lol and i have to agree kinda wish all this stuff was out the game and they used the development time to put like 2 new zones in it and add another 10 hours to the story
Same dude same. I do enjoy the mini games and stuff so I would happily keep them in but tone down the VR missions in the next game cause they are way too overtuned now and waaaaay too long. One of the last ones I'm doing is taking about an hour to get to the end and if you fail that's a whole hour gone...
Honestly - been trying this for weeks, and multiple strategies. It’s frustrating and hard, but please do not label your strat “easy” when it hinges on good parrying abilities that much.
Why don't you try the brumal form method then? You don't need parrying for that really except against sephiroth. Also if you are ignoring one of the most powerful mechanics in the game which is parrying, which literally negates all damage and puts you at advantage you are doing the game wrong. It's easy, plus there is materia that gives you an even bigger window if you struggle.
@@Solestro I have been trying all possible strategies. The brutal form method is the one that has gotten me the farthest, but Sephiroth’s chains are just so random and I haven’t been able to get past the first phase. I do not ignore parrying. I do parry when I can. I just find it hard to use it consistently, even with the relative materia, because the timing changes for every boss, and very time consuming to repeat the same battles over and over again, just to learn the right timing. Please don’t say it is easy, because it is not, at least for me. I may not be a good player, but there’s a limit to the challenge - right now it just feels impossible for me with any strategy. Sorry for venting, but it’s incredibly frustrating to keep doing the same battle over and over, and keep dying either for not getting the right or getting everything in place perfectly. Finally, I don’t believe there’s such a thing as “doing the game wrong.” When parrying is made so difficult for the average player, it just feels impossibile to learn, and I don’t think the players are to blame here.
@@RobertoPetrosinoah ok so youve tried that method too, thats the one i use to beat the challenge for the folk on my patreon always find it super easy, but you do need to learn to parry sephiroths chains or you will just lose constantly. Dont worry dude i know the frustration. If you are still struggling you can always purchase it on my patreon and il do it for you. Ive done the same with others for the VR missions with zack and sephi too.
@@RobertoPetrosino haha I respect that too. It's always there, but the best way to do it imo is just keep going through with brumal and practice the timing for the chains. You only need to parry him like 2 times to set up the build so you can blast him with magic.
Comming back to it wouldn't make Red instead of Cloud make more sense here if you don't really use them. I mean he is tankier (does less magic dmg than Cloud) but should get insanely fast his Vengeance bar full since you block so much. And you can use that either for dmg or to heal or buff a full haste on everyone. And now that I'm think of it shouldn't Sentinel Stance work against Sephiroth's Shadowy Chains? Which in turn would make Sephiroth easier as well? Red is probably the better choice thanks to Sentinel Stance if you're not that good at blocking. On the other hand if your a god at blocking using Yuffie with all her perfect block buffs would make the whole fight faster as well. But with yuffie and tifa you risk that that they just both die constantly.
@@chriskoloski32 haha, it's cause she can self buff unlike cloud. So at chi level 2 she does mad damage and it's just crazy quick too. Where as yeah like you said braver has a big wind up.
@@Solestro I'm 300+ hours in and I didn't know that about lifesaver 😐 thanks for the quick response! This should help me a lot now. I'm going to finish chapter 13 and 14 on hard mode to complete my folio tree because I found Gilgamesh nearly impossible.
No probs dude. There's loads to the game so Im not surprised lol. If you are still struggling at a certain point I offer the completion of rulers as a purchase on my patreon. I've done it for like 250 people now. Well mostly the bonds of friendship/to be a hero but it's there if you need it. @@imiss80sktown
Have have equip Elemental Materia with Fire Materia on the right slots with all the party memebers and Phoenix always kills me with his Flame of Rebirth. Can somebody explain me please?
I think its absolutely wild you wouldn't suggest having more than one character that can heal here, and not to use magnify barrier for sephiroth, that made this so easy remove so much rng from the fight. But tbh fuck square for letting sephiroth randomly target an ability that disables your character completely. What a terrible fight to have after 4 fairly long but boring fights beforehand
You don't really need it with the amount of atb you get. You can constantly keep spamming pray lol. Plus I like to live dangerously. I did suggest shielding people for sephiroth but once you get the build going it's pretty hard to stop.
Well sure but pray isn't in the build at all, im not saying its not a good build but i think magnify manawall and atleast chakra on barrat is a huge failsafe
@@jp5125 oh sorry thought this was on my most recently video. That build is way easier lol. It notified me for that video sorry. But yeah the build here was just basic. For my first run through
@@ltlsWhatltIs it's more the fact he's random as anything too. Sometimes he will frog/silence you and other times he won't. If you get frogged it's hard to recover depending on who got hit.
Does ATB assist only trigger if you use the same ability twice or any two abilities ? Also I wonder if you can use both limit siphon and limit support and siphon someone’s max limit to give LB to both. Would probably be redundant but never actually tried
Same ability, so if you do something like tifa dive kick constantly thats the same skill so they will get atb Also nah that only really works with aerith siphoning it from others and giving it back with her level 3 lol
I've tried this strategy several times now, and i have to ask, How do you get the enemies to attack your other players. As soon as i switch to tifa i start getting attacked by both leaving NO time for me to do the dive kick methods. during several of your battles the other characters seem to be able to hold the aggro of the other enemy long enough to get the process started. but it doesn't seem to be working the same for me.
Damn I can't see any videos of anyone using the team I'm running for this I keep getting taken out by Alexander while I'm obliterating Odin wish we could sleep Alexander, I'm running Cloud Yuffie and Tifa cloud has enhanced expeditionary medal and just absorbs everyone's limit breaks to stun lock and deal high stagger damage and tifa deals damage yuffie is my mage / range so I swap to her often to build atb and keep the party going, the last round is the one I really worry about I had trouble with sephiroth on dynamic never mind hard 😅
Zantetsuken's "counter" goes up as he lands hits and down as you dodge and hit him with ATB. Debuffing him doesn't inherently do anything to the counter, but the damage changes may make it sway more or less.
What they say yeah, if he keeps landing hits on you you are gonna get zantetsukened. That's what builds it for him, you have to either parry or dodge out the way and keep hitting him which is easy with tifa. Hit him enough he buffs/debuffs himself and gets pressured.
Dude thank you so much, it took me 2 days of trying on my own, then I found your channel took me less than 30 minutes finally done with brutal challenges, definetly gonna subscribe, Thank you so much.
Aww awesome dude happy I could help that challenge is stupid but there is harder ones after it. Have you managed to do the legendary ones yet? I'm releasing the last character ones today then the super long ones tomorrow 😊
Dude, your strategy of attacking first & staying within distance of Sephiroth helped a lot. I used another UA-camr’s idea to have Barrett utilize Barrier-All during the Virtual Sephiroth battle. Both of you guys helped me out a ton.
Thank you man.
Awww I'm so happy it was helpful. Sephiroth is really the only difficulty here just with the fact those chains but yeah barrier is definitely a good shout. I incorporated that in another build.
Square nerfed a bunch of stuff like the HP plus materia, the ATB charge rate, the Ga-Magic and tons of other stuff but they didn't even bothered with Tifa's divekick, still as broken as the previous game
Exactly lol. It's funny it took me about 20 hours into the game before realising that they made the firaga etc take 2 atb and I was like "why the hell is it not letting me cast it lol"
@@Solestrolol seriously Ga need 2 ATB 😅 ive on chapter 10 never realise about this 😂
@@DarkVenimage yeah lol. I kept bringing up the menu and being like " I have plenty of MP wth is going on lol" then eventually I looked and saw the 2 red bars showing I didn't have enough atb. Too used to just being able to spam it in remake 😭
@@Solestrodidn’t cast magic one time my entire play though. It’s so underwhelming and not needed. This game flopped in my opinion. Don’t care about sales. The game is boring as fuck
To be fair, it may cost double, but the difference in damage between Ra and Ga is absurd. It costs more but it also deals A LOT more then usual. It was my first 9999 in this game, the Ra isn't even close to that kind of damage.
THANK YOU! This build worked out for me. Needed to get used to Tifa’s combo, and then learning to more consistently parry Odin, Gilgamesh, and Shadowy Chains, but practice made perfect. Beat it on my second try of Sephiroth. I’m now subscribed, thanks so much.
Awesome dude! Congrats 🎉 what have you got left to do in terms of completing it? Thank you for subbing too! I'm gonna be uploading some other builds this week some point too so there are other options too 😄
@@SolestroThank you again! I have the remaining Legendary Combat Challenges (except for Cait Sith, managed to do that after a few tries), but decided to take a “break” by doing some Chapters in Hard mode for now. I’ll definitely be looking at videos for the remaining Legendary simulations so would love to check yours out if / when you’ll have them.
I just wanted to add that I what appreciated most about your video is hearing you talk through what you were thinking as you were doing each battle and going through the materia. I’ve been following some trophy guide videos for other simulations, but being able to hear your thoughts out loud is what really helped me out.
@@anothermarvelfan5142 I will defo be doing the other VR missions again just to record them so I can show easier ways to blast through them so hopefully they are helpful.
Oh really? I always just think im rambling most of the time but its good to hear that it was helpful for you :D
Finally managed to beat this using your guide as a base! Finally managed to consistently beat Greg using magnified manawall on Cloud and Esuna on Barret. Had to clutch up on parries to finally beat Sephy but its finally done!! Thank you kindly!
Awww so happy that you finally did it well done. Is that them all done for you?
I spot a FFXIV player! Lali-ho!
Limit Support is really helpful! It actually helped me perform Tifa's limt and prevented Gilgames's limit in the last second! Thank you for your video!
Awww nice yeah I always forget about that materia lol.
Saved this video for future reference i've also seen the quakega build do some hefty damage
Yeah I tried that build on stream last night it's actually nutty. Did it with yuffie so I could 4 cast quakga lol. Gonna do a video on it soon. Not sure how viable it is on the summons.
I have tried this also. It works up until the Odin fight and Gilgamesh
Thanks for making a vid with not only footage, but an explanation. I tried this build before, but I wasnt maxed out and left unimpressed. Tried it again now, and wow...
Other very good build is aerith and yuffie atb spam with mp aborb, but not as good vs seph
Dunno about anyone else, but I'm fed up with challenges that bore you through easy rounds just to practice the challenging part. Well prepped, you can enter these rounds full hp n mp anyways, so...
agreed and noted.
Still had a little trouble with Gilgamesh after this video but absolutely DECIMATED Sephiroth first try, thanks for this fam 🙏🏼
Brilliant dude! Well done for doing it, yeah Gilgamesh is always an issue but Sephiroth is a push over when you get past them. You going for the plat yeah?
Thank you so much really thought I wasn't going to get through this despite the fact I'd platinumed both remake and intermission.
You can pause or slow down game for decision making helps a lot here like pause figure out who is being targeted from sephiroths grab switch to character for perfect block.
That's actually a pretty good idea, like I said this was my first actual win on this, very sloppy and didn't know he would just randomly go after characters lol. But that's a good thing to do.
I'm stuck on gilgamesh, been using cloud, barret, and red (completely different build). This was a well done video and gave me some good ideas/tips on how to progress. Thanks! Also liked and subbed.
I used the Limit Siphon on Cloud with the accessory that maxes out his limit level... then I used Yuffie as my battery... Transference Module and Limit Support. I used her broken Enemy Skill (Plasma Discharge) + HP Absorb along with ATB Assist... My third character I used Tifa to win. Had Barret in before her, and got far. But Tifa closed it. She definitely is a beast.
FairPlay you make this look so easy! Gilgamesh is so annoying getting so close each time to beating him but finding my MP runs out fairly quick.
Still sloppy but thank you lol. Il be releasing some more builds to beat these as I know this isn't always the easiest way to beat them for people. Yeah the MP is what is the killer you always need to make sure you don't use more than half every round.
Can't wait to try this strategy. Still in chapter 13 on my first run. I've seen that it's a good idea to keep a backup save before fighting gilgamesh so that you can practice for this challenge.
Thought I'd throw that tip out there even if I haven't gotten to it myself
That's actually a really good idea with the back up save considering he literally had about 30 freaking moves he can throw out lol. Had to learn him on the fly 😭
Nothing in this game is a challenge. Gilgamesh was a joke like every other boss in the game. Instantly pressure in one hit then spam attacks for stagger. Game was boring as fuck. Materia was boring.
Weapons sucked
Skills sucks
Open world was boring as hell
Story sucked
This game flopped period idc about fangirls glazing over FF. I played every Final Fantasy, and this is trash boredom filler. For real.
@BetterThanYouAtVideoGames you're so cool that you were able to kill every enemy and boss in one singular swoop of your sword instantly and simultaneously. Please teach us all how to be amazing like you copium
Why even comment on here my guy
@@BetterThanYouAtVideoGamesso do you do this on all game guide videos then
Out of all the guides, this is the best one. By far. Holy crap Barrett
Cleared using basically this strategy. Some of my changes in case they might help others.
I swapped cloud to enhanced expeditionary medal so he'd have lvl3 LB. Then swapped his ATB boost materia with limit siphon. Whenever Tifa had enough gauge to fill his I'd have him siphon it off. That let me use his LB fairly often in the last 3 fights. His lvl 3 lb gives a ton of stagger and basically stun locks enemies so you are free to pound on them with Tifa/barrett while he's going off. Helped me a ton both offensively and defensively to have the enemy basically just sitting there for 5-10 seconds. If you notice they'll be staggered after the LB you can use that time to just build 2 atb bars with barrett and tifa.
The second change was to have cloud equipped with barrier + magnify and more empowerment off in place of cleanse. That helped me a ton during sephiroth since if you manage to reach him with decent MP you can manawall his octaslash and survive it. I would just single cast bravery on tifa during burst windows.
The last thing was a smaller change I removed barretts Opening ATB bonus since he starts fights with 2 atbs thanks to accessory+first strike. I forgot what i used instead.
That's actually a good build too. Happy you finally beat it dude. Guessing onto the even harder ones now? You going for the plat I take it?
@@Solestro yup doing my hard mode clear in between the brutal and legendary vr missions since I need to leveling a warding and a quick cast materia anyway to make some of those easier.
Should do a video of that build @Grukthar . More methods the better
@@ritabeverige4391 exactly the more builds we see the more we can understand the game and blast through these 😁
@@ritabeverige4391 Sadly I forgot to save the replay after clearing but, it plays almost the exact same as the method in this video.
Some slight changes to strategy,
Since it's single target bravery i would only use it right before stagger windows on tifa only.
If you ever see that tifa+cloud have a full limit gauge between them have cloud siphon it. You should only ever cloud LB3 with that build since barrett has the materia and cloud takes tifa's gauge. Whenever you use an lb3 or a synergy ability switch to one of the other characters to build gauge since the bosses typically get stunned during those moves.
Abuse the heck out of cloud + tifas synergy ability that gives you MP0. During MP0 use magnified curaga + magnified manawall to keep your team really safe.
Thank you so much, and I subbed because of this. Altered somethings, because I also barely use atb boost. Limit siphon on Tifa with the enhanced medal with cloud worked a lot, and I did a white cape on Barret so he doesn’t turn into a frog.
That's a good plan actually keeping the person away from being frogged with the cape is a great idea. I'm in the process of making another guide incase people want to try new methods cause these fights are so annoying.
@@Solestro thanks man, I’m on the last two with Zack and Sephiroth
@@TheSirWilliam7 nice not many more to go! Goodluck 😁
Hey man, just wanted to say thank you, I got my platinum not long ago, I have beaten a good amount of the Legendary Bouts thanks to you, but this was the video that helped me out the most. The only challenge I struggled sooo much with and no other guides helped me like yours did. Well detailed and explained with pretty safe approach for what's it worth. So instead of spamming all of your videos with comments I'm leaving one here, this is hands down the best guide for RotOW. Some tweaks can be done to materia and stuff, but the 2 most important things are Tifa divekicking and parrying a lot. Seriously I am not exaggerating by saying that you have to parry a lot, it is absolute neccessity to beat Gilgamesh and VR Sephiroth. so from a mechanic I wasnt using at all it became a part of my playstyle and also very important for all the future Legendary Bouts that were to come. So thank you Solestro, you are the real MVP
Aww thank you that means a lot I'm so happy you got your platinum! I'm so happy my guides have been so helpful I didn't expect them to be as helpful to people as they have been. I always feel like I ramble when I talk but im just glad I could be of help! 😁💙
Thank you bro, because of you I finally beat this! I didn't use your exact build and characters, but your guide was the best at helping me find my own way to beat it. Tifa divekick for the win!
Amazing dude 😊 it feels so good to finally beat these challenges, have you done the other ones? Or were you doing this to get the gottadamerung first. Yeah tifa is broken lol.
@@Solestro I was going in order, so it was the last Brutal challenge for me, and I was doing it for the Gotterdamerung. Now I'm onto the Legendary challenges. I'll definitely be looking at your content and others for help with these fights.
I’ll be putting the Assess Materia Earrings on for Cloud just so I can Assess Virtual Sephiroth.
UPDATE: I beat the challenge and assessed Virtual Sephiroth at the same time.
Nice well done! Onto the harder ones 😅
@@Solestro I already did the Legendary Bouts before this.
@@brandondonato7648 including the ones with Zack and sephiroth?
@@Solestro Yes, I just got the Platinum yesterday, and Rulers of the Outer Worlds was the last thing I did for it.
@@brandondonato7648awww nice congratz! I'm surprised you struggled with that one if you did Zack and sephiroth they aren't easy themselves. I got the plat myself last night on stream such an amazing game. Time to do the bits I missed like other folios etc and find some busted builds 😂
You really goated for finding a different strategy than the limit break one, this strategy seems more fun imo
It is deffo more fun. I tried the limit breaks strategy it just takes way too long with the animation and there's a lot of room for failure. Still a fair bit you can fail on here but the damage output makes it very quick so you can practice.
I'm so tired with the Aerith and Yuffie combo, I will try this method instead.
Edit: F*** THIS GAME!!!!!
I think one way to avoid shadowy chains would be to teleport the character that's about to be attacked, ala block commands
Potentially yeah it would be interesting to know if that worked. I know Aerith could probably teleport to her ward but using her here would be suicide lol
Thanks for the vid dude! Very informative and great, liked it alot. I will try this out but modify it a little. Cheers!
Aww thanks dude hopefully you can get it done 😁
I'm deleting all my other negative comments just to say THANK YOU! Finally managed to do it with your method, with a few materia tweaks.
Gilgamesh was pure pain, whereas I beat Seph on my second attempt.
Cheers mate!
Awww dude so happy for you. Yeah Gilgamesh is by far one of the hardest ones to fight, Sephiroth is just a nice chill end to the fight 😂 you going for the plat? If so you've got harder challenges to do.
Gilgamesh can be practiced by having a save file right before you defeat him the first time. You can probably chapter select to chapter 13 on hard mode to get a more realistic practice session. I assume that he has the same move set, or at least he mostly does, compared to the VR mission one.
EDIT: Looks like I missed the other comment that mentioned this when I skimmed them before posting.
Yeah I never even thought of that I was having too much fun while playing the game to think about keeping a save before Gilgamesh lol. But yeah it's a very good strategy because imo he's not of if not the hardest in this mission.
Chapter select doesn't let you redo any of the Protorelic events, unfortunately.
@@MalachiLper You can restart the chapter with no previous data, but I'm not sure if doing this with Chapter 13 would just wipe all progress. And no way am I trying it just to find out haha.
@@OverlordShanbo It erases QUEST progress, but not Protorelic progress. I restarted all quest progress so I could redo all sidequests on Hard mode (Since any with bosses give you manuscripts) and I couldn't redo anything related to the Protorelics.
@@MalachiLper Ahh I see, thanks. So for the Genji Gear, can I just start Chapter 12 on Hard and re-fight the intel enemies? Or do I have to redo the Intel to get what I need from them? Also is getting those manuscripts necessary for the platinum? I'm still trying to get a read on just exactly what I need to do.
I got this to work but I switched Tifa to Jarngreiper because I think the weapon skills are a bit better for this build and I switched Cloud to Slipstream Saber, the skill to recover MP when he receives big damage is super beneficial for making it to late game.
After that, it all comes down to skill, knowing when to go in and when to be patient.
Ooo that's interesting didn't know that about the slipstream saber il have to have a look into it. Happy you got it done though! Well done 😁
I loved your build had I been capable of going toe to toe better with Gilgamesh (via parry) I'm sure this would have been the one that would have done it. Amazing work :)
YESSSSSS!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!! I FINALY DID IT!!!!!!! YOU ARE A GIFT UNTO US ALL!!!!
Side note, dodging Odin tends to work better than blocking since he won't Reprisal as much if you dodge. But anyway...
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
Haha thank you, I just explained it better than some other videos. But happy it worked for you. Yeah that's true if you try and kick him he hits you back it's best to just keep wailing on him. Il have some other videos tomorrow for easy ways to do Barret, tifa and Aeriths legendary missions. Those were fun.
Don't get too relaxed though the last 2 legendary missions are worse than what you just did lol. Unfortunately
@@Solestro Thanks, you just convinced me to give up on the platinum at 87/88 after 172 hours. I just don't have the (perfect block) skill to survive Gilgamesh long enough to even get this tactic started, and I don't particularly want to spend a week fighting the first three battles over and over again just to get a chance to practice and die in less than a minute, not to mention sephiroth still waiting in the next round. Nor do I look forward to the last two legendary missions being worse. This just seems like purely sadistic game design, and I honestly couldn't be any more disappointed in Square Enix for designing it this way. These should be divided up. The summons are enough for endurance. Gilgamesh and Sephiroth should each be separate missions. All of the 10 round fights are bad. I should probably quit videogames forever. Sorry for the negativity, but I'm just done.
@@kythlyn if only they put a checkpoint in the middle that would have made it way more bearable. Was saying that today while I was streaming, literally all they need is a checkpoint you shouldnt be punished for not being perfect and having to go all the way back to the start. It's annoying, especially on the harder ones.
@@Solestro Thanks for the supportive reply. I get a lot of people that defend Square Enix unconditionally that tell me things like, "You brought this on yourself for going for the Platinum. You don't have to play it." But I feel like this punishing, sadistic game design is just... bad. Like, I know you're a content creator and you're supposed to be positive about the games you play, but, can you honestly say you enjoyed this fight? And if so, help me find the fun.
@@kythlyn
So the challenges should be easier simply for your sake? Sorry but I want stuff thats actually difficult and square nailed it on these imo. I do agree however we needed a way to practice against V sephy. But gilgamesh can be practiced on. Just chapter select, easy, and go make a save before his proto quest fight. Then practice.
If you pres triangle to use up your Concentration during stagger, you increase the multiplier to make your dive kicks do more.
It's the easiest stagger multiplier that I've found so far 😉
Oh deffo. I just didn't want to do it to keep her chi level high just incase but yeah you can boost the damage and kill them quicker by doing that 😊
@@Solestro Ideally you would want 2 full chi combos for Tifa plus a synergy ability with the other characters to get a few more seconds of stagger and bonus damage then throw limit breaks altough I don't think thay gave us enough time to do everything so maybe you have to choose what to do. It's pretty tricky to do since it requires great timing and I could get only 1 Tifa combo + syn ability + 2 limit break once or twice but I'm still in chapter 13 and I just tried the Phoenix & Kujata and Odin & Alexander fights and they are way too difficult now because I was at lvl 49 and have lvl 1 elemental materia so yeah I'll do them in post game for sure!
Still weird to me that Bahamut & Titan were a super easy first try but the other 2 fights are insanely tough and very unfair regardless of the level because of the off screen attacks and lack of i-frames when you get knocked down (which is an issue in cactuar crush too and getting hit deducts your point).
Anyway great video, I'm going to use it as a guide when I am stronger and I can't wait to lose my mind to unlock the platinum trophy!
Chakra on barret is really nice too heals him 50% with his passives i think
yea. so many suggestions about prayer and I'm like, "why?" lol
The Sephiroth fight is just obnoxious. Who actually thought it would be fun to fight an enemy with 100k health that non-stop spams a move that permanently disables one of your characters, then deals 6k undodgeable damage to them?
Sephiroth at this point is obnoxious, period. I don't want to see him anymore, lol.
I love the original, I love the Remake despite its flaws, but insisting on having a Sephiroth fight in every game is easily the biggest mistake they made with the Remake. Sephiroth (somewhat) worked as a villain in the original because he was barely on screen and couldn't spout cringe edgelord lines that make me cringe out of existence.
Sephiroth shows up more now cuz he knows he can control cloud from the jump so he uses any opportunity he can to weaken his mind
Gilgamesh is my roadblock here. Timing the defends and parries are really difficult.
You've just gotta commit, all the times I did It I was afraid to stand there and block. As long as it's not the exclamation mark moves you can stagger him pretty easy by learning the timing. Trust me I was the same, least with this method it doesn't take long to get to him. When I did the limit breaks method it took me ages to get to him and I was just getting annoyed.
@Solestro I've been doing a blend of Tifa dive kick buffs/debuffs and the limit method. It's been working pretty good. I can get to Gilgamesh in about 13 minutes.
@@mariahtheriault9221 that's not too bad. If you can merge both techniques that's pretty good too cause the limit method is good, I just felt it was too slow for me. I like to be quick lol.
I improved the material equipment, removing the assist subjects and adding chakra to everyone and rebirth to everyone since barret dies very quickly but with the chakra material everything is healed
Nice that's a good tweak did you manage to get it done 😁
Unfettered Fury is the same thing as Unbridled Strength, but it buffs her magic based attacks instead. If you're using Divekick as your primary damage method, Unbridled Strength would be the more efficient buff.
I want to try your build with a twist, everything identical but with Aerith instead of Barret, Limit Siphon and expeditionary on Aerith, the ATB to Limit thingy on Tifa, advanced expeditionary on Cloud. A single (properly timed) Planet's Protection would mean Odin will never Limit, neither Gilgamesh nor Sephiroth can hit you for the most part, and you are free to Divekick and recycle for Finishing Touch over and over. In my mind it works 😆
EDIT: Oh, and DeBrave + DeProtect to instantly pressure Odin at the start.
That's a good tweak I may have to try it myself. Making another couple builds on this incase people are still struggling cause imo it's probably one of the hardest ones.
@@Solestro I'm struggling more then my ego would like to admit. I can't, for the life of me, parry with the slightest consistency, most of the times I lose at Odin which is embarassing.
If I have to cheese it, so be it, the whole challenge is a cheese 😆
So i swapped time and empowerment. Cloud has the first time strike on, and the atb boost, and as someone who forgets to use it also, this made sure i didn't cuz first thing i do each fight is use that thing, cast hast, then switch to barrett use the lifesaver. Then tifa, and if she's almost got 2 atbs then i attack until i have both, use a dive kick, then atb boost, and use back to back divekicks for a total of 3, that should give barrett what he needs to have atb for bravery, and remember everyone, Overcharge usually fills up an atb, basically unless youre slowed it will. So i can get up faith for cloud after casting bravery for tifa. That also allows me to take off barrets magnify and put a healing on him...im just uncomfortable only having 1 character out there with the ability to heal. I also realized, i could just use sonicboom with tifa, and that will buff her with bravery and haste and i could take that off entirely. Probably best to do one or the other of those changes... assuming you have the enemy skill on tifa per this guide, id say just use atb boost to give her two, then use sonicboom to buff her, get your rise and fall up and then divekick your ass off lol. Great video though, im sure lots of people did their own little tweaks for their own comfort but credit to you for a great base strategy thanks.
19:40 YEEEEESSSSSSS! Yes yes yes yes. I agree one million percent. I don't mind surviving five hard fights back to back.
What I do mind is making it artificially hard to get to know a hard boss. The first time I got to Gilgamesh he just steam-rolled me in 5 seconds (it had been ages at that point that I fought him, so I was blindsided by his spazzing). How am I supposed to learn anything from that? Yes I can watch videos, but that isn't the same. I don't get how such things still are not obvious to devs. It's like every game they develop is their first in terms of user-friendliness.
I've been stuck at Gilgamesh for weeks now. The battle sim is the only thing that's missing from the 7-Star-Hotel trophy and I'm going bonkers with the last three challenges (Rulers, Bonds of friendship and To be a Hero. The last of which I dread the most simply because it involves having Sephiroth on screen for far too long and withint a lightyear of Cloud.)
Seeing Tifa and Cloud finishing off that annoying edgelord together warmed my heart.
And finally a guide who uses my favourite party!
Haha yeah it's crazy isn't it. Would be much easier to practice those bosses. I love that team it was my main team for pretty much the game whenever I could use them lol.
@@Solestro Same! I was a bit surprised though that you didn't really use Tifa's True Strike on staggered enemies.
Oh, one thing ... I'm sure you know, but in the video, it came across as you were saying that you have to parry Odin with perfect guard (as in not taking damage) to avoid getting Zantetsuken'ed -- it's enough to block normally, so the pressure isn't on that much :) Oh #2, I prefer using Cloud to punisher-mode Odin, that way, you chip away some damage while blocking as well, and have Barret attack from afar. With Tifa, I get Reprisal'ed all the time, which is super annoying. So when the battle starts, change to Tifa so Odin targets her (if you don't have it as your default character anyway), have Barret and Cloud cast the buffs, change to Cloud, have ... fun. Odin on his own I find really fun actually.
EDIT: OMFG I made it. Sephiroth, once you have him in his second magic phase, really is much, MUCH easier, I beat him first try (with a Finishing Touch from Cloud ... ooooooh, I love seeing it.) .But eff me sideways, Gilgamesh is a massive pain in the ass. But again, thank you so fucking much, I'm so happy that I beat the challenge without some weird cheesy strategy and beat it 'properly'.
"Elemental Materia" is the key of this!!!! 👌🏻
Elemental materia is amazing. Love being able to just heal off every attack
@@Solestro Hey, the enemies are allowed to throw stupid BS at us the whole time, we deserve SOMETHING!
Haha very true 😂@@givmi_more_w9251
I’m definitely gonna try this, all I need to do that’s left in the game are the hard mode vr missions and hard mode for story.
Yeah the vr missions can really get in the bin on this game. I liked them in remake but they just put way too many stupidly difficult ones in this. The ones after these are even harder even though you have the gotterdamerung, which makes no sense lol. It's cause you can only use 1 character in each
@@Solestroit’s kind of keeping me from doing them
Man that fight with V Sephiroth was awsome to watch
Haha thanks dude. I'm waaaay better at it now lol. Done it for loads of other people and my parry skills against sephiroth are even crazier. Thank you though! ☺️
Congrats on beating him without having maxed out weapons. I didn't have maxed out Folios myself when I beat enemy 230.
The first time I got to Gilgamesh, I was somehow able to beat him first try. And then Sephiroth spams me to death.
Brilliant.
Yeah it's one of the most annoying things about getting to the end. Try the brumal form method video I've done. Gets you there a lot faster so you can practice plus most of the time if you are quick you can just kill Sephiroth before he can get going.
@@Solestro I tried Brumal Form Method, can't get passed Odin and Alexander.
This challenge sucks. 😭
@@Solestro I FINALLY BEAT THIS CHALLENGE!! I used Cloud, Tifa and Barret. And aside from a few close calls, it went pretty well! Thank you for not just this guide, but all your other guides! They've been very helpful!
I found a way to kill the phoenix before using rebirth flame. In short its just using a synergy ability on it and using Tifa to powerhouse it while it's stun-locked. The fights still easy without it but it definitely saves time.
Hi! Fnally beat the challenge after god knows how many hours, enjoyed your build except fury ring it got my ass handled to me and dmg was already pretty good, so gg! time for legendary ones…
@@THESUPERKOSH nice dude well done 😊. I remember when I did this with the tifa build it was really fun. The brumal form build is usually fairly easier but tifa is more fun.
@@Solestro funny enough I was about to give Yuffie build a try but decided to make another attempt and it was victorious!
I can totally see them doing something disgusting like making the boss rush in the third game
Sapphire Weapon, Ultimate Weapon, Diamond Weapon, Emerald Weapon, Ruby Weapon at this rate
Lmao I was thinking the same thing. That's why I said on my stream "you guys think this is hard just wait till part 3 lol" the weapons are gonna be brutal.
I FINALLY BEAT Virtual Sephiroth! I used Cloud, Barrett, & Tifa. All I needed to do was have Barrett cast Barrier-All twice & I was able survive Virtual Sephiroth’s Octaslash each time. It was awesome.
My final attack was EPIC!!!
Cloud’s Limit Break Ascension occurred right after Sephiroth’s Limit Break cutscene for Octaslash. The game let Cloud go first & & I won! 😂
I never parried Sephiroth’s Shadowy Chains once.
1. Barrett cast Barrier-All 2x.
2. Tifa’s armor: Cetran Armlet
3. Tifa: Tranference Module
4. Cloud: Limit Booster
5. Cloud cast Regan-all at the beginning of each battle.
6. Tifa cast Haste-all at the beginning of each battle.
It only took me 30hrs 😂 I couldn’t beat Sephiroth’s Shadow Chains & I kept having stupid deaths to Alexander, Odin, & Gilgamesh.
You make Gilgamesh look ridiculously easy.
I make him look easier now, since I've done it loads of times for other people lol.
@@Solestrocan u do it for me please 🥺🙏
@@theoc511there's a link on one of my newest videos to my patreon/discord you purchase it on the patreon then message me on discordn and il get it done.
That Gilgamesh fight is a bit sweaty. But looking forward to trying this
Oh 100% the Gilgamesh fight is very sweaty lol. It's fun though
thanks this build worked for me. still have to be fairly competent at the boss fights so i wouldnt call it easy. hard part being if any one of these guys die the party falls apart pretty fast
Yeah it's as easy as you can make it with your team really. It defo isn't a free win like some of the matches but glad it helped 😁
I think you can stop Odin from doing his big attack is to debuff him. he wont do it while debuffed from poison etc
Yeah I heard that, debrave, defaith and poison pressure him an insane amount, realised that recently.
Actually, atb assist works as long as you use two command in a row, doesn't need to be the same command. I personnally like the overpower twirl that can be chained with dive kick, or if the timing is starpower followed by divekick to boost dive kick. But it doesnt need to be two of the same command to trigger atb assist
Starshower*
Well I used optinoobs strat and now I can make it to sephiroth and he kills me. So he does shadow chains and then I recover and he does it again like right after. It's weird why he does that so so fast a second time
Edit: Swiftcast stunlock firaga after tanking one Octoslash was the one tweak that worked .
Kudos for beating it but Jesus Christ I hated how you never raised the stagger percentages with Tifa
Haha I didn't see the point really. I'm gonna go back and do some other stuff with tifa and other builds. Want to see how I can do now I know how all them work 😂 I know I probably made a lot of people hurt by not stagger raising lol.
Interesting. I notice from the Genji gear that you did this after hard mode.
What I did for the Genji gear was just switch to chapter 13 on hard mode to get the gear then switch back to my normal mode playthrough. I did everything on normal before doing hard mode chapters. As you only need to kill the big monster bosses on hard, malboro, Quetzalcoatl etc
i've only been able to reach sephiroth using the yuffie brumal form spam. But once there i just get wrecked. And ever since those three failures i either get trolled by gilgamesh's cheap rng or bahamut. I'm pretty much ready to throw in the towel on this BS as i hear the one with cloud and zack is even more annoying. a trophy isnt worth this level of annoyance. They severely over tuned these simulator fights just to make it insufferable.
Same here. I threw in the towel 2 weeks ago, and I don't think I'll ever go back to it; just have to accept 87/88 items.
Cloud's Finishing Touch does a pretty good amount of damage, but Tifa's Meteor Strikes might be the most damaging of the level 3 LBs. That said, man I can't wait until we get the ultimate limit breaks like Omnislash and Final Heaven in part 3!
Oh me too they will look amazing in part 3 so excited!
@@SolestroI'll be interested to see how they incorporate Knights of the Round into Part 3 as well. I bet it'll have something to do with the Weapons and that massive materia we saw them carrying. That or we get it through Chadley similar to Gilgamesh.
I just beat rulers of the outer worlds and my stress level was through the roof. 😅😅 I'm never doing that again! I got the gotterdammerung and now I'm happy. Hardmode here I come! Lol
Heres the full build
Cloud:
Rune Blade:
Magnify--Empowerment, Revival--MagicUP, Cleasing, ATB Boost
Cetran Bracer:
Elemental--Fire and Ice, Magnify-Healing, First Strike--Mp UP, Precision Defense--Steadfast Block
Gilgamesh
ATB Charge UP, Limit Break Damage +10%, Atk Power +20, Magic Power +20
Tifa:
Dragon Claws:
Darkside--Enemy Skill, Atb Boost--ATB Assist
Cetran Armlet
Fire--Elemental, Strength UP--Subversion, Skill Master--HP UP, Precision Defense--Steadfast Block
Titan
ATB Charge up, Enhanced Techniques, Atk power +20, Weapon Ability Damaghe +5%
Fury Ring
Barret
Battle Cry:
Magnify--Time, First Strike--Disempowerment, HP Up, Mp UP
Valkyrian Bangle
Fire--Elemental, Revival--Limit Support,SteadFast--Precision Defense
Chocokings Cape
ATB Bonus, Atb Charge Rate UP, Limit Gauge Charge Rate + 10%, Atk Power +20%
These combat sims are absurdly difficult compared to remake. Kind of annoying how many times you fight the summons
I totally agree with that said that numerous times. They are way too overtuned and they get boring just going through the same things over and over again. Remake only really had 1 challenge of fighting them all this has like 3
i saw the 4min spdrun of the guy doing the dive kick with courage buff, genji and dark arts
Thank you for the video. I am currently stuck in the 4th brutal challenge. I believe it’s the one with a White Terror & White Flan on round 5.
I have all tje materia here, but not all of it maxed. You mentioned parrying. I’m guessing that’s the R1? I seldom if ever use it in tjis game, bug if it’s like Sekiro/Lies of P, I should be fine.
There’s a Barret ability you mentioned- a bullet that takes off his health to increase damage. Is that from the folio? I’m at party level 9, and having done all sidequests and intel combat (with the exception of hard mode proto relic games), is there any other way to raise party level? Playing chapters on Hard Mode, perhaps?
Oh god yeah the one with the flan and the wolf. I hated that one, best thing to do for that one is use the summon when it becomes available the rest of the battles are easy in that fight.
The move is called lifeblood cannon it's unlocked through the folio at party level 8 and it's very strong. It does take 2 atb and half his health but it's a good trade off.
Party level is determined by the side quests and everything else in the game but If you need to allocate points you can reset them. If you need more folios you get 60 something from hard mode, some from the story and some from the side quests again.
I was stuck on White Terror for a while cuz of trying to use actual methods for the fights. Once I said screw it and just had everyone throwing every ATB they got at the wolf from the start the fight went hella smooth. Same thing with Odin, keep one ATB for a healing spell and just nuke Odin with everything else. He'll get a couple of reprieves off but the ATB you throw at him easily offset it.
Animation cancelling on Tifa wins once again.
Yup it's good they left that in. I know it's a bit needed compared to before but least you don't need a materia slot to make use of it like in remake.
10/10 awesome run
Thanks dude. Very sloppy in parts but it was fun ☺️
You whacked Gilga in less than a couple minutes, it's highly impressive and with a little optimization you could easily do this in sub 10 minutes. I look forward to ice-skating around with Tifa =]
@@heiral7773 it felt longer tbh he's the scariest fight in this lol. The other fights are pretty fun il be releasing those tomorrow. Haha yeah tifa is so good. Glad she is still broken
Hello there! Have a quick question : where u got your 3rd magnify materia? Ik cait sith brings one if he join the party, one via side quest in cosmo and the 3rd or 1st u should finde in chapter 1... now my problem is I finished all 3 options, only have the buggy party animal quest left... and cant find the one who should be in nibelheim tutorial. Heard that the one u find in prologue u lose after it. So what can I do to get the 3rd magnify? Dont have them and dont find them >.
The one in chapter 1 is temporary the 3rd is from a brutal VR mission :) so you'll be able to get it from there.
it’s anoying having to go so many rounds to get to final round , that’s biggest issue I have with the game , hate redoing multiple fights just to try the one i’m stuck on
Yeah I'm the same dude, it gets worse after this one. The last couple you need to do are 10 rounds which takes about 45 mins to 1 hour each... And if you die you are going right back. I hate it.
The build is really good but Gilgamesh is destroying me. He has so many attacks, which is makes him a great fight but fighting through the first three phases all over again is tough
You could always try the magic build instead of this if Gilgamesh is the problem. I'm probably gonna release a couple videos showing various builds to do this because one build doesn't always work for everyone.
@@Solestro will do that. Thanks
Idk how you say gilgamesh is harder sephiroth is giving me ptsd he keeps catching the team I don’t fail parry at all but he keeps catching everyone and stop us from doing anything
It's cause Gilgamesh can do more BS than Sephiroth he has debuffs. Can turn you into a frog, remove your buffs. Sephiroth is just "I'm gonna do shadowy chains" just parry that and spam magic at him or divekick the crap out of him lol.
The problem *is* parrying 😅
10:16 how did Tifa absorb sloppy swordplay?
@@life0093 it's not absorbing it. It's Barretts lifesaver ability. He takes the damage instead of the person hit.
@@Solestro Oh yeah. That makes sense. Haha
@@life0093 😁
just a nitpick but why dont you put divekick on a shortcut? lol
Tell me you didn't watch the video fully, without telling me you didn't watch the video fully, lmao. he literally shows he did he likes to slow down time instead so he didn't use it.
well i didn't because this idea and build was from someone else where i watched that video completely.
I'm terrible with the shortcuts lol. I tried using them on a couple of my runs it just made me play worse. I didn't use them in remake either so I guess that's why I'm not used to it. Plus it's kinda cool slowing the game down lol
@@Solestro understandable thanks for the reply. that other person is right lol. my fault for not fully watching the video.
I combed through like 2/3 of the comments before posting because I didn't see any mention of it, but why did you give Cloud the Rune Blade (Magical Weapon)? Does his improved magical attack (not mp) affect his buffed spells in some way or help nullify the attacks with the armor-materia slot? I hope this question makes sense lol this game so complicated in all the worst ways.
Haha no that makes perfect sense. Tbh I didn't really think about the other characters it was mostly focused on tifa. Im gonna be making a much easier method for this soon so keep an eye out for that. But if you utilise all characters in this method with tifa it goes a lot faster lol.
I'm still struggling against Sephiroth, I'm not good at the parry at all and it takes so long to even get to him to practice. I really hate that Shadowy chains moves. I need a method that doesn't need to parry so much..
I think you can use your counter attack from the prime more etc. Don't quote me on that though. But that also doesn't help the other 2 characters.
I can get gilgamesh about half way. But i run out of magic and can't build atb quicj enough . I took off the atb boosts because i need assess materia, as well as barrier and revive on tifa.
You don't need assess materia just remember what they do. That saves you one slot you can use for something more beneficial. Also if you are running out of MP you can pair MP absorb materia with the spell you are using to get some back
@@Solestro no I need assess for sephiroth for the playlog lol.
Ahhhh lol. That makes more sense I need to do that too 😅@@LivedLegna
also you can perfect block Sephiroths shadowy chains. if you switch to the character hes targetting and parry the initial slash it staggers him. not sure if you can parry the one that starts with a projectile but i got through the entire fight with only taking one octoslash.
Nice dude happy you did it 😁. Yeah that was my first time getting to him so was still figuring him out didn't realise he could go for the others.
You can parry the projectile.
@@justfire123 that's good to know, I just wasn't sure at the time as it was my first try then.
Edit: Swiftcast stunlock finally worked on VR
Im at attempt 300 or so. I instantly die on gilgamesh, it takes me about 6 hours to get through the attempts to actually get to him and now I have a strategy but it's too late because every time I get back there he's going to beat me again and again because I instantly die there's no down time at all whatsoever I don't know what to do anymore I'm thinking of changing my build again but it's not going to work. I have to slog through 6 summons in three rounds every single time I want to get to the guy that I'm trying to destroy and then he immediately kills me zero down time again zero down time it doesn't matter what I do for some reason fire max strength twice with the genji glove and 500 magic didn't do anything I don't understand what the fuck my problem is I don't understand why I can't just kill this thing its weak to fire I use fire and then it immediately jumps up again after its pressured for 3 seconds and then kills me again I'm sick of it I wish there was another strategy I have tried all of your biuilds and every other build on UA-cam that has the strategy listed I've also gone on Reddit and Facebook and a bunch of video game sites it's to the point where I'm looking for strategies every single day to see if something updated or somebody refreshed I need help here I don't understand why can't I just have a strong party that can get through this I don't understand why I have to use the stupid brumal form, and the dive kick doesn't work on Gilgamesh there's no chance for me to actually practice him unless I can go fight him right now on his Island but I already killed him. He was much easier back then I don't understand what happened
Edit now I got Gilgamesh now sephiroth is destroying me
@@supersaiyanzero386 if you are still having problems dude save yourself the stress and just go through my patreon store and let me do it for you lol. That's way too much stress/time to put into that.
Are you sure you aren't the voice actor of Cait sith? Your accent is the same😂
Lmao il take that as a compliment, that's why I've always liked Cait sith, one of the best Scottish people in final fantasy 😁
LMFAO best comment I've seen all morning. But I assume positive compliment lol
You just got lucky with Gilga/Sephiroth in that run
Yeah I got really "lucky" parrying almost everything Gilgamesh did lol. Only thing I got lucky with was tifa not getting frogged from that 1 attack lol
Is this the build from that one asian guy? Good to see someone doing it in english to understand what is beeing said
I don't think it was an Asian guy? The one I saw just had literally no explanation so just had to figure it out. It's all cool showing a fast video bragging essentially but you gotta explain it to people.lol.
When i play this game all my wife sees is min games and combat simulators shes like what is this game lol and i have to agree kinda wish all this stuff was out the game and they used the development time to put like 2 new zones in it and add another 10 hours to the story
Same dude same. I do enjoy the mini games and stuff so I would happily keep them in but tone down the VR missions in the next game cause they are way too overtuned now and waaaaay too long. One of the last ones I'm doing is taking about an hour to get to the end and if you fail that's a whole hour gone...
I’m currently on attempt number 60 haven’t even reached Sephiroth yet 🙃
Honestly - been trying this for weeks, and multiple strategies. It’s frustrating and hard, but please do not label your strat “easy” when it hinges on good parrying abilities that much.
Why don't you try the brumal form method then? You don't need parrying for that really except against sephiroth.
Also if you are ignoring one of the most powerful mechanics in the game which is parrying, which literally negates all damage and puts you at advantage you are doing the game wrong. It's easy, plus there is materia that gives you an even bigger window if you struggle.
@@Solestro I have been trying all possible strategies. The brutal form method is the one that has gotten me the farthest, but Sephiroth’s chains are just so random and I haven’t been able to get past the first phase.
I do not ignore parrying. I do parry when I can. I just find it hard to use it consistently, even with the relative materia, because the timing changes for every boss, and very time consuming to repeat the same battles over and over again, just to learn the right timing. Please don’t say it is easy, because it is not, at least for me. I may not be a good player, but there’s a limit to the challenge - right now it just feels impossible for me with any strategy. Sorry for venting, but it’s incredibly frustrating to keep doing the same battle over and over, and keep dying either for not getting the right or getting everything in place perfectly.
Finally, I don’t believe there’s such a thing as “doing the game wrong.” When parrying is made so difficult for the average player, it just feels impossibile to learn, and I don’t think the players are to blame here.
@@RobertoPetrosinoah ok so youve tried that method too, thats the one i use to beat the challenge for the folk on my patreon always find it super easy, but you do need to learn to parry sephiroths chains or you will just lose constantly. Dont worry dude i know the frustration. If you are still struggling you can always purchase it on my patreon and il do it for you. Ive done the same with others for the VR missions with zack and sephi too.
@@Solestro I appreciate the offer but it’s a matter of principle now 😂 worst case scenario I’ll just have to live without that one trophy I am missing
@@RobertoPetrosino haha I respect that too. It's always there, but the best way to do it imo is just keep going through with brumal and practice the timing for the chains. You only need to parry him like 2 times to set up the build so you can blast him with magic.
Comming back to it wouldn't make Red instead of Cloud make more sense here if you don't really use them. I mean he is tankier (does less magic dmg than Cloud) but should get insanely fast his Vengeance bar full since you block so much.
And you can use that either for dmg or to heal or buff a full haste on everyone.
And now that I'm think of it shouldn't Sentinel Stance work against Sephiroth's Shadowy Chains?
Which in turn would make Sephiroth easier as well?
Red is probably the better choice thanks to Sentinel Stance if you're not that good at blocking.
On the other hand if your a god at blocking using Yuffie with all her perfect block buffs would make the whole fight faster as well. But with yuffie and tifa you risk that that they just both die constantly.
I need someone to do this challenging for me man. I just want to play as zack again
Zack is so good in this game I love playing as him
@Solestro thanks for rubbing it in but love the vids man. Got to sephiroth for the first time thanks to you
Had no idea unfettered fury had a 2 stage upgrade like unbridled strength. But why is divekick so strong
Tifa never skips leg day 🙏
@@Solestro tbh I was expecting a more serious answer, is it just cause it's braver but faster and tifa has higher strength?
@@chriskoloski32 haha, it's cause she can self buff unlike cloud. So at chi level 2 she does mad damage and it's just crazy quick too. Where as yeah like you said braver has a big wind up.
1 question a magnify-barrier could work for gilga and sephirot to mitigate some of the damage?
It probably could yeah but magnify cuts the time down a lot on buffs so it wouldn't last super long.
Ok thanks I'm not that good with parries thst is whu I'm looking for ways to survive more
How does Tifa regain HP from Gilgamesh's attacks?
It's Barrett's lifesaver ability. It heals the person and he takes the damage. You'll notice he takes a lot of damage lol
@@Solestro I'm 300+ hours in and I didn't know that about lifesaver 😐 thanks for the quick response! This should help me a lot now. I'm going to finish chapter 13 and 14 on hard mode to complete my folio tree because I found Gilgamesh nearly impossible.
No probs dude. There's loads to the game so Im not surprised lol. If you are still struggling at a certain point I offer the completion of rulers as a purchase on my patreon. I've done it for like 250 people now. Well mostly the bonds of friendship/to be a hero but it's there if you need it. @@imiss80sktown
Have have equip Elemental Materia with Fire Materia on the right slots with all the party memebers and Phoenix always kills me with his Flame of Rebirth. Can somebody explain me please?
Do you have it on your armour? Elemental and fire linked on your armour absorbs all the damage from phoenix.
@@Solestro Oh jeah you right it worked! Thank you!
@@Alice_Rosfieldno probs 😊
really really appreciate
No probs 😁
I think its absolutely wild you wouldn't suggest having more than one character that can heal here, and not to use magnify barrier for sephiroth, that made this so easy remove so much rng from the fight.
But tbh fuck square for letting sephiroth randomly target an ability that disables your character completely.
What a terrible fight to have after 4 fairly long but boring fights beforehand
You don't really need it with the amount of atb you get. You can constantly keep spamming pray lol. Plus I like to live dangerously. I did suggest shielding people for sephiroth but once you get the build going it's pretty hard to stop.
Well sure but pray isn't in the build at all, im not saying its not a good build but i think magnify manawall and atleast chakra on barrat is a huge failsafe
@@jp5125 oh sorry thought this was on my most recently video. That build is way easier lol. It notified me for that video sorry. But yeah the build here was just basic. For my first run through
Gilgamesh is more annoying than anything. Hes so damn fast.
@@ltlsWhatltIs it's more the fact he's random as anything too. Sometimes he will frog/silence you and other times he won't. If you get frogged it's hard to recover depending on who got hit.
Does ATB assist only trigger if you use the same ability twice or any two abilities ? Also I wonder if you can use both limit siphon and limit support and siphon someone’s max limit to give LB to both. Would probably be redundant but never actually tried
Same ability, so if you do something like tifa dive kick constantly thats the same skill so they will get atb
Also nah that only really works with aerith siphoning it from others and giving it back with her level 3 lol
I've tried this strategy several times now, and i have to ask, How do you get the enemies to attack your other players. As soon as i switch to tifa i start getting attacked by both leaving NO time for me to do the dive kick methods. during several of your battles the other characters seem to be able to hold the aggro of the other enemy long enough to get the process started. but it doesn't seem to be working the same for me.
This, it's insane at times specially when it comes to gilgamesh, the window gap for dodging it's so slim jesus
u conquered this game
I feel like I have now with how many times I've done rulers and the Zack/sephiroth Vr missions lol. Thanks though dude 😊
When i finish a round i only get 50% HP and 30% MP, someone know why? I want 50% HP and 50% MP
They changed it in the recent update.
Good stuff.
Thanks!
Damn I can't see any videos of anyone using the team I'm running for this I keep getting taken out by Alexander while I'm obliterating Odin wish we could sleep Alexander, I'm running Cloud Yuffie and Tifa cloud has enhanced expeditionary medal and just absorbs everyone's limit breaks to stun lock and deal high stagger damage and tifa deals damage yuffie is my mage / range so I swap to her often to build atb and keep the party going, the last round is the one I really worry about I had trouble with sephiroth on dynamic never mind hard 😅
I haven’t done this but don’t you need to debuff Odin as well as dodging/parrying? He always used to use zansetsukan unless I did that
Zantetsuken's "counter" goes up as he lands hits and down as you dodge and hit him with ATB. Debuffing him doesn't inherently do anything to the counter, but the damage changes may make it sway more or less.
What they say yeah, if he keeps landing hits on you you are gonna get zantetsukened. That's what builds it for him, you have to either parry or dodge out the way and keep hitting him which is easy with tifa. Hit him enough he buffs/debuffs himself and gets pressured.
I can’t finish this challenge due to Sephiroth smh. His shadow chain is annoying as hell!
Well if you ever want me to beat it check out my patreon video. Ive beat this for a few people now. Just purchase it and il do it for you.
CAN SOMEONE....ANYONE...WHOS BEAT THIS SHARE PLAY WITH ME TO BEAT MINE...I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE... PLEASE
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