General Purpose is not "Do-it-all"

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  • A regression in the industry seems to be the desire to turn "recce" or General Purpose Rifles into "Do it all" rifles. Something that was purged from the community in the mid 2016s for being a noob trap and a indicator of a inexperienced shooter. But in my opinion has been making a come back.
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  • @basher2209
    @basher2209 2 місяці тому +505

    Brass Facts is my general purpose UA-cam channel.

  • @warux8674
    @warux8674 2 місяці тому +143

    Reminds me about the one video Hop made back then "So you ruined your AR". Love these kinds of topics that go into ergonomics and all that stuff that no tacticool youtuber really goes into.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +25

      great video.

    • @flopus7
      @flopus7 2 місяці тому +4

      I used that video as a blueprint to build my general purpose. He was right, it is utterly ruined.

  • @mguerrrero
    @mguerrrero 2 місяці тому +337

    Im gonna comment my opinion before watching the video

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +148

      based

    • @ExtremelyAverageMan
      @ExtremelyAverageMan 2 місяці тому +54

      I'm gonna watch my comment before videoing my opinion

    • @bwillems1000
      @bwillems1000 2 місяці тому +13

      @@ExtremelyAverageMan Super based

    • @scottnelson3214
      @scottnelson3214 2 місяці тому +7

      I laughed when he finally admitted he wasn’t left handed

    • @Samos900
      @Samos900 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ExtremelyAverageManI’m gonna video my watch while commenting my opinions

  • @hangnwithdosei3266
    @hangnwithdosei3266 2 місяці тому +386

    Trying to make ANY rifle into a "Do it All" rifle is one of the largest pitfalls to ruining your rifle that you can do.

    • @boygonewhoopdataZZ
      @boygonewhoopdataZZ 2 місяці тому +18

      This is why the military picked up the Sig XM7. Truly a do it all rifle.

    • @breakingcomedytv
      @breakingcomedytv 2 місяці тому +4

      @@boygonewhoopdataZZyou’re right. It’s just unfortunate that still wasn’t a good decision due to the weight of the ammo.

    • @andycraig6905
      @andycraig6905 2 місяці тому +32

      ​@@breakingcomedytv we ran right back into our issues with the m14

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 2 місяці тому +7

      I wouldn't say ruin, just spend a lot of money and get little to nothing for it. I mean the rifle wtill functions and is still as capable of being a rifle as it was coming out of the factory.

    • @ZOROASTED
      @ZOROASTED 2 місяці тому +4

      That's a quote form the video?

  • @Modern_Muskets
    @Modern_Muskets 2 місяці тому +249

    Well, I guess I'll just start calling it the "General do-it-all rifle for purposes specific to my current larping needs".

    • @jimyeats
      @jimyeats 2 місяці тому +14

      Or as Nutn’ would say, Gdiarfpstmcln.

    • @Modern_Muskets
      @Modern_Muskets 2 місяці тому

      @@jimyeats 🤣🤣🤣

    • @makevelicustoms
      @makevelicustoms 2 місяці тому

      @@jimyeatslol 😂

    • @Na-if5ze
      @Na-if5ze 26 днів тому

      How much do you dhoot? How often? How many rounds do you fire in a given month?

  • @texasranger24
    @texasranger24 2 місяці тому +62

    20" super heavy barrel, suppressor, bipod, laser, light, 3-24x scope, 12 o'clock piggyback red dot, 35° canted red dot, 100 round drum mag and a bayonet for cqb. Got it, thanks.

    • @wishuhadmyname
      @wishuhadmyname 2 місяці тому +9

      Don't forget the 2.3 lbs single-stage trigger and the cupholders

    • @andrewsiscoe2712
      @andrewsiscoe2712 22 дні тому +1

      Seems like more of a recce rifle to be honest

  • @chadkhl1690
    @chadkhl1690 2 місяці тому +32

    I'm European and some of us need to consider a single do-it-all rifle simply because the red tape makes piling up ten Anderson rifles a bit harder over here

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +13

      make 1 GPR. and just understand the limitations.

    • @adam80s.
      @adam80s. 2 місяці тому +3

      Me, as a Pole keep one HK MR223 (civilian 416) 16” and all € my heart wants to spend on second rifle, my concious mind spends on ammo…

    • @n.speezly1467
      @n.speezly1467 Місяць тому

      @@adam80s.Poland is based

  • @iansanchez331
    @iansanchez331 2 місяці тому +67

    My do-it-all rifle is my M16A4 clone yessir

    • @Bryan-uw1ny
      @Bryan-uw1ny 2 місяці тому +7

      Ballistics wise, it's the giga Chad AR.

  • @mangofett927
    @mangofett927 2 місяці тому +76

    Remember the old pick 10 system in Call of Duty Black Ops 2? I tend to view gear choices using the same philosophy. Disclaimer: dumb-dumb civilian here, I have neither been there nor done that. Back to the pick 10 idea, I view everything through a weight/capability budget. I can blow my entire budget on slapping every accessory under the sun onto my rifle to turn it into what is, on paper at least, the ultimate weapon platform. But now I have to lug it and a sustainment load over a mountain and very quickly realize my 20 pound CQB/Sniper AR with 4-20× scope, offset red dot sight, a thermal clip on, a bipod, and a grenade launcher is more of a liability than an asset if I'm too tired to fight after carrying it. I think it's much wiser to distribute my budget through my whole kit and have a more simplistic rifle setup while having other capabilities.

    • @thomaseric8662
      @thomaseric8662 2 місяці тому +25

      I carry a high point carbine and MAWL. I'll use scavenger for everything else

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +44

      unironically it's not a terrible analogy.

    • @Karza_357
      @Karza_357 2 місяці тому +1

      I do the same with my ak when i go to the range. I choose between optic mount and a suppressor, adding both would make the gun quite heavy.
      The gun feels very different in both configurations, the variety is great.

    • @Jeffplsgo
      @Jeffplsgo 2 місяці тому

      This is a very good idea

    • @concertinacultist9971
      @concertinacultist9971 2 місяці тому +2

      When the Call of Duty player is unironically more reasonable about his kit than most actual ex-operators.

  • @iamtherealrauschguy
    @iamtherealrauschguy 2 місяці тому +57

    I am currently running an MOR, or 'My Only Rifle'. It's a 16" BCM carbine gas FSB upper with a Centurion quad rail and an Eotech 512. I can LARP using God-mode doing solo room clearing of my house, as well as make hits out to ~480 yards. It has successfully launched every single projectile successfully, approximately 4000 rounds. So far, it's done it all and has generally served its designated special purpose.

    • @slappomatthew
      @slappomatthew 2 місяці тому +10

      16” carbine gas. Its your funeral. 😅

    • @roughneck2204
      @roughneck2204 2 місяці тому +1

      Like the mor lol

    • @jonathansmith7306
      @jonathansmith7306 2 місяці тому +2

      Last time I looked at the bcm catalog, they don't do 16" carbine gas barrels

    • @ShepherdsSheepdog
      @ShepherdsSheepdog 2 місяці тому +5

      Yeah. 16" with carbine gas will never work...​@@slappomatthew

    • @ShepherdsSheepdog
      @ShepherdsSheepdog 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@jonathansmith7306 Probably had it awhile. Maybe even long enough to be deadly with it.

  • @MrKakemann1
    @MrKakemann1 2 місяці тому +16

    Having cleared houses with a .308 "battlerifle" and gone on recce missions with a sub gun, the GPR is a all-rounder IF you train with it and UNDERSTAND its limitations.
    And as a European (god i hate that word) not currently at war, you are not crazy for wanting the ability to defend your home(no limit on how you personally define that). Whether the threat is foreign, or domestic 😉

  • @bass779
    @bass779 2 місяці тому +101

    Quick customer experience with Modern Warriors: they listen to customers and are rational people. They refused to send a flash hider to California due to the confusion caused by stupid laws, but when I sent them the actual code and explained how a legal rifle could be configured with a flash suppressor, they changed policy and shipped it.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +32

      awesome to hear.

    • @Matt-xc6sp
      @Matt-xc6sp 2 місяці тому +21

      Modern Warrior:🗿
      PSA: 🙈🙉🙊

    • @jessefreitas44
      @jessefreitas44 2 місяці тому +11

      Still gay that they would self enforce laws that don't affect them

    • @highdesertdrew1844
      @highdesertdrew1844 2 місяці тому

      @@jessefreitas44 Nobody wants to deal with stupid california bullshit, especially californians.

    • @wolfgang_h3t
      @wolfgang_h3t 2 місяці тому +14

      ​@@jessefreitas44 Californian laws *do* affect them if they ship it there

  • @theazuzhaters9988
    @theazuzhaters9988 2 місяці тому +256

    Recce has to be one of the most overused terms in the industry

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +148

      thankfully we switched to GPR, the second most overused term.

    • @NM-235
      @NM-235 2 місяці тому +25

      @@BrassFactsat least GPR is less cringy.

    • @sethhlewis
      @sethhlewis 2 місяці тому +10

      ​@@NM-235recce rifles weren't cringe. That's what SEALs called them. That or "sniper M4". We wouldn't have mk12s without recces

    • @joesashiify
      @joesashiify 2 місяці тому +5

      I​@@BrassFacts I like SPR better.

    • @NM-235
      @NM-235 2 місяці тому +5

      @@sethhlewis no the name was cringe, unless you’re a seal then you can call it whatever and be cool as balls. Outside of replicas calling anything kinda like the cool guys use the same thing is a silly way to try and milk the professionals credibility. I was issue an Hk 416 at work and it didn’t make me like a seal, you know what I was issued an m16a4 the m4 when in the military but few want to mimic regular grunts. My personal rifle is a regular ar carbine with a 1-6 but isn’t patterned after any cool guy gear it was chosen cause it was good enough for where I live.

  • @beowulf9878
    @beowulf9878 2 місяці тому +52

    A GP rifle is like the 5.56 round. It may not get an A in any category, but it can get B’s and C’s in most.
    On the other hand, there are some calibers and some setups that let you get an A in one or two categories, but D’s and F’s in the rest of the categories.

    • @HugeCockAndBalls
      @HugeCockAndBalls 2 місяці тому

      It's an S for finding ammo lmao

    • @beowulf9878
      @beowulf9878 2 місяці тому +10

      @@HugeCockAndBalls I was going off of a school’s grading scale where top is A. Because whoever decided to put S at the top was dropped too many times as a child.

    • @sumblakdude9
      @sumblakdude9 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@beowulf9878 S is meant to be near perfect. Basically there is a difference between a 90-91 and a 99-100. S rank means exemplary/excellent. Think of it as a higher rank A

    • @UMADBRO64
      @UMADBRO64 2 місяці тому +4

      I think something that's missed with 5.56 at least, is that you can squeeze out capability of your rifle in more than one particular way. For example, you don't need a full loadout of M855, you can always pack a magazine of some flavor of 68 to 77 grain HPBT and with the right optics setup, you can easily begin quickly engaging targets with far higher precision, particularly at range.

    • @alphaomega9255
      @alphaomega9255 2 місяці тому +11

      ⁠@@sumblakdude9like A+ but lamer. 😅

  • @BumpHeadRacing
    @BumpHeadRacing 2 місяці тому +23

    Came for Nova footage, acquired perspective and knowledge along the way. 10/10

  • @CiviTac
    @CiviTac 2 місяці тому +24

    Your first fighting rifle should be built to take care of your local environments. If you start with that you’re likely to have a decent fit for your rifle and what you need it to do.

  • @johnnyringo8312
    @johnnyringo8312 2 місяці тому +15

    Dude, hate to ruin the surprise of your quest of setting up the perfect rifle. The full circle is back to an m4 with 1x and marksmanship for a civilian.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +10

      the m14 might be the biggest example of why do it all sucks.

  • @Hoplopfheil
    @Hoplopfheil 3 місяці тому +595

    This video makes me wish LPVOs were good

  • @benthephilosopher
    @benthephilosopher 2 місяці тому +10

    Another argument as to why 1x is the most important magnification is that the closer the engagement, the more risky it is for your safety, and thus the more you want to have all the advantages you can, including an intuitive and quick aiming solution.

  • @Ef554rgcc
    @Ef554rgcc 2 місяці тому +8

    You had me with "I don't know what the hell I'm talking about."

  • @user-he1vv4ce9c
    @user-he1vv4ce9c 2 місяці тому +17

    12:31 Yep, couldn’t agree more. Someone’s ideal setup in the dense woods of Georgia would likely look much different than someone’s ideal setup in the mountains of Idaho.

    • @carpenoctem5421
      @carpenoctem5421 2 місяці тому

      Exactly! Here in Alabama, I’m rarely going to see more than 150-200m. So I think even 1-4x is about perfect (I also own two 1-6x’s). I just put a P4xi on a scalarworks mount tonight for this exact purpose. If I lived in Montana, or the desert, then a 1-8x would certainly more useful.

    • @CharlesMartelsHammer
      @CharlesMartelsHammer 2 місяці тому

      And even then, North Idaho is vastly different than southern Idaho.

    • @user-he1vv4ce9c
      @user-he1vv4ce9c 2 місяці тому

      @@CharlesMartelsHammer True.

  • @frankdamsy9715
    @frankdamsy9715 2 місяці тому +10

    The way I see it:
    General purpose = built around the scenario you are realistically most likely to find yourself in (realistic)
    Do-it-all = built around being able to perform well in every possible scenario (unrealistic)

  • @DomoArigatoRobot0
    @DomoArigatoRobot0 2 місяці тому +8

    Thank you Brass Facts. Makes me want to look at "what am I doing again?", again.

  • @JOExSPARTIAN
    @JOExSPARTIAN 2 місяці тому +3

    Yes that's me... I went all onboard the 2.5-10 train, and realized I just needed a better quality LPVO system. Been pretty happy with the plxc for size and weight reasons

  • @SnapD24
    @SnapD24 2 місяці тому +58

    I just call my rifles "rifles," and I do what I want.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +13

      okay

    • @gansior4744
      @gansior4744 Місяць тому +7

      That is way too sensible for Gun Community. You need to buy more Ferro and Spiritus drop merch

    • @soma_182
      @soma_182 18 днів тому

      @@gansior4744 lmao. Forreal tho, these larper tacticool channels are cool and all and I have gathered some good info from them, but a lot of these guys take themselves WAY too seriously. Like bro let’s be honest, if shit actually hits the fan we’re all fucked. Who survives the longest isn’t going to have anything to do with how sick your 5k AR build is, it’s going to come down to who has the most cans of beans stashed away, which news flash isn’t going to last very long. Fun hobby for sure, and there’s nothing wrong with buying expensive shit and larping with it if that’s what you like to do, but some of these folks gotta chill sometimes and not take this shit so seriously.

  • @InfinitumDiver
    @InfinitumDiver 2 місяці тому +17

    16 inch barrel, mid-length gas, prism w/ RDS, A2 birdcage, light, sling. As shrimple as that.

    • @patb7723
      @patb7723 2 місяці тому

      Very similar setup to mine and the prism got a swampfox trihawk 3x30 prism optic

    • @Na-if5ze
      @Na-if5ze 2 місяці тому +1

      Same here but with a 1-6 LPVO.

  • @lordhuck2689
    @lordhuck2689 2 місяці тому +37

    A do it all gun does exist. It’s one lower with three uppers.

    • @unidentifiable100
      @unidentifiable100 2 місяці тому +6

      10.3 + 14.5 + 18 = :)

    • @lordhuck2689
      @lordhuck2689 2 місяці тому

      @@unidentifiable100 I would have gone. 7" 300 BLK +14.5 pin and weld 5.56 and 18" 6mm Arc. But yeah, very close.

    • @stephenurban9880
      @stephenurban9880 2 місяці тому +4

      @@lordhuck2689 So you are not only having to carry around 2 extra uppers, you are also now having to tote around combat loads of three different calibers.

    • @raetiran463
      @raetiran463 2 місяці тому +2

      Or a bullpup rifle that doesn’t care about having a long barrel. My 20” 308 ends up being about the same length suppressed as a 11.5” suppressed SBR the only single disadvantage is weight, but I’ll take that disadvantage to be able to go from 0y CQ to 1000+y without changing a damn thing

    • @kujob6442
      @kujob6442 2 місяці тому +1

      (If you live in the country, this novel here means nothing to you) Yea now you have to lug around another 15 lbs for no real reason. That idea only works if you dont have to be mobile all the time. If you have a homestead in the country with no one around, sure. But the majority of people live in some sort of urban environment where they are not gonna want to stay. Having to carry that extra weight will be detrimental to them if they have to move more than a couple miles. I live in bumfuck nowhere, and I plan on having a couple other uppers with a specific purpose in mind, but thats only because if SHTF were to happen, I would likely not have to move from my area. And to add on, having 3 different uppers in 3 different calibers? Now you have to lug around ammo for each system. I think you might need to sit down for awhile and actually give that idea some thought, and if you still think its a fair idea, go out in the field, and lug it around for awhile.

  • @acem82
    @acem82 2 місяці тому +6

    "There are no solutions, only trade offs." Thomas Sowell

  • @nicholas1740
    @nicholas1740 2 місяці тому +9

    After years of shooting in the Rocky mountain west with AR's from 100 to 725 yds, and some in the southeast US, my experience with AR's and the right glass for barrel lengths are as follows. And while some will undoubtedly say, well I've shot my 16" out to 800 yards! Yea...well how many shots did it take for impact? I focus on realistic distances for the stick being used.
    Red dots or holographics on pistol AR's. 10.5" barrels. It's for home defense, not 300 yards folks.
    1-6 LPVO's on 16"er's or less. 500 yrds and in, but really more like 400 at most.
    3-18 x 44 power or more for 18"' barrels. These work really well from 300-725 yds.

  • @MarkAndrewEdwards
    @MarkAndrewEdwards 2 місяці тому +9

    I guess I'm out of the loop on semantics here.
    I thought 'general purpose rifle' was something light enough to carry, short enough to be used indoors and accurate enough to hit torsos at 500 yards. But then, I still believe the 5.56 ought to come out of a 20" barrel, so I guess I'm an Old.

    • @novembermike512
      @novembermike512 2 місяці тому +5

      Yeah, I always saw it as taking advantage of the natural characteristics of an AR15. Lightweight, decent at reasonable ranges with reasonable capabilities added (light, sling, possibly LAM and suppressor). The point is that you don't add a bull barrel or optimize the optics for 600 yards. Once you get past GPRs you're trying to optimize the gun rather than bringing out the natural capabilities.

  • @protectpersevere2030
    @protectpersevere2030 2 місяці тому +14

    Acronyms make my tummy hurt

  • @skyhop
    @skyhop 2 місяці тому +13

    If you can't do it all with a 14.5-16" barrel, a fixed 4 power optic, and an IR laser, then I'd classify that more as a skill issue than a gear issue. Basically how I'm running my aug at the moment, except I have a piggyback RMR on my elcan.

    • @rustysausage69
      @rustysausage69 2 місяці тому

      The back-up irons on top of the elcan are crying at that RMR rn

    • @skyhop
      @skyhop 2 місяці тому +2

      @@rustysausage69 There's no backup irons on the fixed 4x elcan. The RMR is more or less necessary for passive aiming with NV.

  • @_Art.Vandelay
    @_Art.Vandelay 2 місяці тому +35

    Time is a flat circle. We are departing the ACOG/carry handle trends and moving back to LPVOs and RECCE.

  • @herknorth8691
    @herknorth8691 2 місяці тому +7

    This is a topic that's worth delving into deeper, IMO. "General purpose" is great... if you know your purpose. Too many people don't and just copy somebody else that posted a photo online without considering whether those people have the same purpose as you do. I fell into that trap myself; the builds that resulted weren't necessarily "bad", but I wound up liking builds that I came up with to solve a certain issue (i.e.: my general purpose) a lot more.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +7

      I did a video on METCC and why it doesn't make sense for civilians.
      The civilian Purpose, is unknown, changing and vague in nature.

  • @AJ_Sparten1337
    @AJ_Sparten1337 2 місяці тому +5

    General purpose means "can accomplish 70-85% of the situations that you'll possibly encounter" which is what most people seem to forget.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +2

      I view it more as can do %100 of them, but the perfomance drops off heavily as you extend in range as the focus is on the close

  • @LaneB16
    @LaneB16 2 місяці тому +9

    Literally just a Colt LE6920 with a TA31F and RAS + your light of choice is all you need lmao

  • @nurse-dude
    @nurse-dude 2 місяці тому +10

    Why do I feel like this a secret pro elcan video.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +16

      everything is secretly pro elcan. I'm slowly convincing the industry that Elcans are actually the best optic ever made.

    • @Statusinator
      @Statusinator 2 місяці тому

      @@BrassFacts This is the secret to selling off your Specters at a profit.

    • @Hoplopfheil
      @Hoplopfheil 2 місяці тому +6

      The universe is pro-elcan

    • @d.h.9616
      @d.h.9616 2 місяці тому

      As soon as they make one with decent eyerelief I'm in.

  • @1GruntZPOV
    @1GruntZPOV 2 місяці тому +4

    After watching I agree that the rifle to “do it all” is based heavily for your AO and given scenario. Currently my 90% solution rifle is a 14.5 with a Surefire mini2 and an eotech and magnifier. Good do most setup

  • @Jan3214578954
    @Jan3214578954 3 місяці тому +30

    Hey Brass Facts, I remember a while back you mentioned about doing an LPVO Buyer’s Guide video; any update on that?

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  3 місяці тому +84

      literally just finished about 2hrs ago.

    • @kite2036
      @kite2036 2 місяці тому +14

      ​@@BrassFacts upload it mustache man

    • @noobmaster258
      @noobmaster258 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@BrassFactshell yeah brother, looking forward to that

    • @carpenoctem5421
      @carpenoctem5421 2 місяці тому

      @@BrassFactsbeen racking my brain and going crazy for two weeks on optics thanks to your videos. Finally ordered one last night and NOW you’re gonna have a buyers guide video? You’re killin’ me smalls 😂

  • @ViktoriousDead
    @ViktoriousDead 2 місяці тому +9

    A 14.5 SOCOM battle with an ELCAN is criminally underrated.
    It’s too bad ELCAN’s cost more than a house

    • @praharin
      @praharin 2 місяці тому +1

      Same weight as a house too.

    • @ViktoriousDead
      @ViktoriousDead 2 місяці тому

      @@praharin they’re not that bad

    • @mr.stotruppen8724
      @mr.stotruppen8724 2 місяці тому +1

      They only weigh a ton for what you get out of it once you inevitably come to the conclusion that the 1x prism doesn't quite do everything you want it to (it's not a red dot and will never behave like one) and inevitably stack a red dot on top to make up the slack.
      Then you're just left with a heavier ACOG/dot combo from 2012 with stupid Canadian external adjustments and a better reticle.

    • @ViktoriousDead
      @ViktoriousDead 2 місяці тому +1

      @@mr.stotruppen8724 I take it you’ve never used one

    • @mr.stotruppen8724
      @mr.stotruppen8724 2 місяці тому

      Borrowed a friend's who bought his with police department money. The glass is really nice. The reticle is better than the standard ACOG's IMO. The crosshair model is closer but still not quite as functional. It weighed like 27ish oz with the ACRO he had mounted to the top. I did it deliberately a few times and liked it for what it was, but when actually running drills I never saw a reason to use the prism 1x because I was already so used to swapping to a chin weld with ACOGs.
      They make a lot of sense for defense contracts because bean counters want to buy one optic rather than two different ones. Zeroing a company's worth of optics on a military range is already a painful and badly executed process and one more optic to shoot with one more offset 25m zero to figure out (and actually disseminate and get people to understand) to account for the obscene HOB would just make it even more painful. But unlike work I don't have to limit myself to what comes out of the arms room.
      If you're going to stack a dot on it anyway the balance is still in the ACOG's favor. If you're not then an Elcan might be superior if you don't consider the price relative to the highest end LPVOs to be a factor.

  • @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce
    @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce 2 місяці тому +115

    Always remember
    The M14 was an attempt to make a rifle that "does it all."
    Let's not do that again.
    - People really love missing the point to defend their pet rifles.

    • @masonboard
      @masonboard 2 місяці тому +10

      R I F L R

    • @ST-zm3lm
      @ST-zm3lm 2 місяці тому +12

      We already are with the XM7 🤔

    • @blaeshoflen8663
      @blaeshoflen8663 2 місяці тому +1

      The military and civilians have different goals/capabilities. Not the same

    • @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce
      @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce 2 місяці тому +5

      @@masonboard yes, riflr

    • @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce
      @TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce 2 місяці тому +6

      @@blaeshoflen8663 rifle is rifle.
      A single rifle cannot "do it all"
      Your wants and needs have no impact on this.
      A single rifle simply cannot "do it all."

  • @brandonf7181
    @brandonf7181 2 місяці тому

    I truly appreciate this video. It brings some things into perspective, at least for me.
    I have not been able to figure out what optic I want for my rifle because I am trying to do too much. I’m a pretty novice shooter, so this video helped me to realize that I need to consider what is more likely to happen rather than every scenario that could happen. Seems simple enough…

  • @wadesafool
    @wadesafool 2 місяці тому +2

    I was not ready for this level of philosophy on a Friday 😂

  • @a.m.2694
    @a.m.2694 2 місяці тому +1

    For being an off the collar take, I thought it was very well constructed and explained. I also agree with you, as I've personally found myself trying to reevaluate GPR vs Do Everything lately. At some point, it just becomes to much and you are forced to start prioritizing, which is good!

  • @mxer515
    @mxer515 2 місяці тому +3

    Honestly, just have fun. People overthink all this shit. 16in rifle with a red dot is honestly fine. The odds of people actually using these tools in a combat scenario are quite low, and again something simple and something you’ve put training in with will be better than nothing. Chasing “perfect” setups is never ending

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +4

      if you're having fun than go ham. Nothing wrong with that.
      But some of us like to take it seriously, nothing wrong with that either.
      This video is for the latter

    • @mxer515
      @mxer515 2 місяці тому +2

      @@BrassFacts oh for sure. I am also the latter as well lol. Just think sometimes it’s easy to get caught up in the weeds on GPR,SPR etc. Hence the video

  • @KingdomKillaz117
    @KingdomKillaz117 2 місяці тому +1

    It really is a journey discovering the pros and cons to certain builds. I built out an SPR thinking it was going to be this uber-tier laser of a gun, only to find out that it's really a good gun, but it requires patience to get ready for a shot and takes developed skill to properly operate the optic to ensure consistent accuracy. Contrary to my first ever rifle which has a red dot and is essentially just a plug and play with comparable accuracy, albeit limited magnification and adjustability (and maybe quality of manufacturing). Personally, I think of my SPR build as my general purpose rifle because I live in an open rural area and generally, the magnification a scope provides is very useful for PID.
    TLDR; My opinion is that general purpose is what you consider best suits your immediate needs and abilities for the environment you spend the most time in. I also haven't finished the video yet so this may be redundant.

  • @Arkancide
    @Arkancide 2 місяці тому +3

    Home/community defense 300 BLK go-to rifle, with the option of switching out the upper with the 5.56 one for longevity(scroungable ammo) and slightly further reach, and the GTFO my farm AR10 in .308 gives me the flexibility I think I need. So close, medium, and longer range stuff is all covered. Optics that match capability and ammo stockpiles too.
    Though my area isn't a freakin open desert like yours, so the GPR concept doesn't apply quite the same to me. Having two guns with three options is my best bet. If for some crazy reason I had to choose just one and go on the run with it(unlikely), I could take the AR15 in 5.56 or AR10 in .308 and be just fine. But I know that the way I'm setting up isn't for everyone, not everyone has 50+ acres of farmland with 7 ponds to fall back to or utilize, some will want/need to be mobile and unburdened by being static.
    If things get bad enough that a static position on my farm isn't viable, well... survival may not be the best option.

  • @stevenkennedy4130
    @stevenkennedy4130 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the share!!

  • @VulcanXIV
    @VulcanXIV 2 місяці тому

    Great, now I have to go search for what a fighting rifle means. Wonderful video, well done. Glad I watched.

  • @Roxas13XIII
    @Roxas13XIII 2 місяці тому +3

    Exactly. If you try to accomplish everything, you'll accomplish nothing. Know what your rifle is for and stick to it. Nobody said you only have to have one.

  • @d.h.9616
    @d.h.9616 2 місяці тому +1

    14.5 middy + 1-6 lpvo is life. Found it when building a fighting righ based on my race rig around 2013 and never looked back. It just works.

  • @1lovesoni
    @1lovesoni 2 місяці тому +1

    Once I got a PTR 91 and mounted an ART scope on it, I started to care a lot less about trying to push my 5.56 or 7.62x39 rifles out past 400 yards. I got a 4x POSP scope and the Colt/Brownells 4x carry handle scope. Both retain zero and are fairly quick/simple to attach or remove, plus they let most of my AKs or ARs easily reach out to 3-400 yards. I would highly recommend all 3 optics mentioned for anyone looking to do a general purpose rifle.

  • @longpoint17
    @longpoint17 2 місяці тому

    Love your videos. And I always appreciate the Nutnfancy references!

  • @snakebite210
    @snakebite210 2 місяці тому +7

    Brassfacts Friday 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @joeyoung4309
    @joeyoung4309 2 місяці тому

    My GPR is a 20" 556 with an ta31, a light and a sling, its on the light side for a 20" rifle and i really appreciate 556s performance out of a 20" barrel compared to a 16/14.5/13.7. and i like the acog because its just simple and i personally just like how its just 4x, i built this entire rifle to just be simple to grab and go.

  • @marine6680
    @marine6680 2 місяці тому +1

    I have been arguing for years... That sub 100yds should always be a priority for a civilian defensive rifle. Where an RDS is king.
    For the practical realities of a two way shooting range situation, I peraonally feel that the larger RDS have some useful advantages over the smaller T2 sized options. But use what you like.
    If you think that medium range engagement is also a possibility that you want to have some improved capability for... Then add some low magnification. 4x is plenty for such needs.
    An ACOG with good RDS, offset or piggyback, can do a lot, while maintaining light weight.
    The PA 3x prisms are good budget options, possibly the 5x, but I prefer better eye box.
    I feel a lightweight but rugged LPVO is also an option, but it needs a secondary RDS, for the advantages that has.
    For most people I feel a lightweight prism scope and an RDS combo is the best option. Simple, light, and rugged.

  • @jeffr5552
    @jeffr5552 2 місяці тому

    When I built my last 5.56 I wanted a true GPR. Lightweight, moderately compact, accurate enough, enough magnification to increase hit potential at 500 but still works at close range.
    What I came up with was a 14.5" BCM enhanced lightweight barrel, Geissele trigger, ACOG, Modlite, Steiner OTAL-C, and Deadair Sandman S. It weighs a fairly comfortable 9 lbs, not too ungainly in length, still maneuverable, still has adequate ballistics, still fast at 7 yards while making hits easy at 300 and is supremely reliable. It isn't really optimized for anything, but it does a range of things quite well.
    As a back test, I recently took it to a two day carbine course where the predominant setup was predictable a mid grade 16" with some kind of unmagnified red dot. I held pace with everyone extremely well at 7 yards and came in with consistently faster hits when we pushed out to 100 yards. I wasn't initially sure how it would do at the closer ranges but it performed excellently.

  • @Condrasul
    @Condrasul 2 місяці тому

    I recently got a used Vortex spitfire 3x prism gen1
    And i have to say i love it

  • @sickvendetta9
    @sickvendetta9 2 місяці тому +2

    After I recce-mended this video to a guy on Reddit I was virtually harassed within an inch of my virtual life and came back to rewatch - apparently they didn’t care for this video. I honestly don’t give a fuck I love this content.

  • @ChemistyStudent
    @ChemistyStudent 2 місяці тому +1

    I'd be curious what your take is on the InRange/Forgotten Weapons WWSD rifle. (unless I've totally missed it)

  • @jameshull5274
    @jameshull5274 2 місяці тому

    I for one love our little talks. I myself just have purpose built shorter and longer uppers, carry them both and switch them as necessary.

  • @mitchschutter4302
    @mitchschutter4302 2 місяці тому +15

    I remember back in like 2010 when the “Do it all” was a 16” or shorter .308 (FAL/SOCOM 16) with a 1-4 or red dot magnifier. You don’t see too many of those anymore.

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +4

      we've come a long way.

    • @unidentifiable100
      @unidentifiable100 2 місяці тому +3

      16" AR10 with a 1-6 LPVO still ticks all those boxes for me

    • @natalyasparrow6748
      @natalyasparrow6748 2 місяці тому +1

      A lot of that is weight. Not just the rifle, but the ammo. 20-25g/round for .308 vs 12g for .223/5.56, which means either less ammo on hand or packing on the pounds. Add in that .308 SBRs are supremely loud even suppressed, and it's not surprising why most people left that scene.

    • @timewave02012
      @timewave02012 2 місяці тому

      FAL? M1A? More like SCAR. And yes, I have an Elcan Specter DR on my 17S. Even over on FALFiles, consensus is the SCAR is better than the FAL for practical use.

  • @ZuZaarr
    @ZuZaarr Місяць тому

    I feel that the ideal rifle build for most people (basically urban) is a 14.5p&w - 16in rifle with in order, flip up Iron Sights, a sling, 5 loaded spare magazines, a red dot + Magnifier, flashlight, and a short vertical foregrip.
    Optional accessories are camouflage to fit your neighborhood or just stand out less than all black, a QD bipod, and magazine coupler.
    I feel this makes the best compromises while prioritizing optimization for your most likely engagements. Don't cheap out on the sling and the glass and you should be fine.

  • @roul3688
    @roul3688 2 місяці тому +1

    The internet now: “GPR this…”, “GPR that…”, “GPR build”, “GPR”, “GPR!”

  • @Furiouspenguin27
    @Furiouspenguin27 2 місяці тому +4

    Hey Brass Facts, a while ago you mentioned you were going to do a how to twerk guide. Is there any update on that?

    • @BrassFacts
      @BrassFacts  2 місяці тому +4

      That's a video of my camera man, He has both the assets and the skills to twerk. I can't even floss right.

    • @Sprice93USAF
      @Sprice93USAF 2 місяці тому +1

      Asking the important questions.

  • @Esch_atton
    @Esch_atton 2 місяці тому

    Uh oh, youre upgrading my brain here, Brock. Im gonna have to re think my rifle and make a new video on it. My last rifle video was titled "general purpose" with a thumnail saying "do everything" 😅

  • @catsfrommars
    @catsfrommars 2 місяці тому +3

    Going to go full Boomer here.
    The Recce Rifle has now become the modern day Jeff Cooper Scout Rifle.
    When the internet discovered the Mk12 SPR they also “rediscovered” the Recce concept that some team guys were playing around since the early 90s. It predates the SPR, the Recce idea has been around for years (~1993 after Black Hawk Down) and somehow it’s now mutated into Internet clout.
    I also think it predated some of the competition shooter stuff because the competition community was hampered by the Clinton-era Assault Weapons Ban which didn’t end until 2004.

    • @lecherojr
      @lecherojr 2 місяці тому +2

      I agree completely. I think if Col. Cooper were still alive he’d have a URGI with a lightweight 1-4/6 scope.
      SEALs and Delta have been using magnified optics on carbines since the early 90s. There’s pictures of MSGT Horigan with his MRE M4 with what looks like a Luepold 3-9, Chapman, Holland etc etc all using free floated hand guards and magnified optics

  • @hewlett260
    @hewlett260 2 місяці тому +1

    The biggest issue people run into is building a setup without laying out a set of parameters that break down needs vs wants for capabilities. People need to be honest with their personal skill in this and once they figure out the parameters build something that ticks their boxes.

  • @RustyStator
    @RustyStator 2 місяці тому +1

    My magnified AR is and probably always will be my go-to, but it has its trade-offs. Still, the one rifle concept has its marrit. Someone that only runs one system but they run the shit out of it, is probably really good with that system. Thatnk for another great video BF

  • @Front-Toward-Enemy
    @Front-Toward-Enemy 2 місяці тому +1

    I typically set my MAIN rifle for what is the most likely environment you believe you may have to use it in. And then learn how to use it in other environments.
    In my area, I predict a lot of close quarters fighting. I have a lot of thick forrest around me. main rifle is a bcm 11.5 mcmr. My optic is a red dot/magnifier combo. Even though I believe that most engagements will be within 100 yards. Im still learning to shoot out to 600 yards with it. Why? Because, despite having mostly dense woods around me, I have a road running by my house that I can see straight down for 600 yards.

  • @rjperez2617
    @rjperez2617 2 місяці тому

    I always tell my friends a GPR is a medium to longer range rifle that can shoot up close decently and is still wieldable in closer combat scenarios, but still typically a 14.5” to 16” rifle. A do it all I say is a 11.5-14.5” rifle that can touch at 500 no problem but also super balanced for CQC primarily. Hope this helps

  • @bootlegengineer2367
    @bootlegengineer2367 2 місяці тому

    Sometimes I click on your video and think, I don’t want to hear this guy talk forever. Next thing I know, I’ve listened for 20 min lol. Love your videos

  • @giulianogottardo6094
    @giulianogottardo6094 2 місяці тому

    hay .. i m watching all your videos and that one soundtrack at the beginning drives me crazy! can you tell me the name of it ?

  • @ColeDedhand
    @ColeDedhand 2 місяці тому

    "This is going to be off-the-cuff." Points to collar.

  • @Kriss_L
    @Kriss_L 2 місяці тому +1

    16" AR-15 with 4x scope with do 99% of what 99% of people will ever need it to do.

  • @Goldenwithaleash
    @Goldenwithaleash 2 місяці тому +1

    Ain’t that the truth. I spent way too much time and money trying to build a “do it all”.

  • @norseman6306
    @norseman6306 2 місяці тому

    great info

  • @randalljeffs7272
    @randalljeffs7272 2 місяці тому +1

    Beautiful landscape shot at 10:25

  • @AllProCombat
    @AllProCombat 2 місяці тому

    @Brass Facts, what are the electronic ear pro "buds" you are running, and do you recommend them?

  • @hoplite015
    @hoplite015 2 місяці тому +1

    The #1 problem with "Do-It-All" and "general purpose" builds is this - majority of the owners of those builds don't have even half of the experience or skillsets to do all the shit those guns are supposedly made for.

  • @felixonline1825
    @felixonline1825 2 місяці тому

    Didnt watch the video but that title already got me nodding in agreement

  • @codyy8006
    @codyy8006 2 місяці тому

    What is the shortest hand guard you can comfortably run with a light and laser? I’m trying to build out a gpr but haven’t used a lam before. I like the look of longer hand guards but the weight savings and rigidity I think make up for it.

  • @BrianWood777
    @BrianWood777 2 місяці тому +2

    I think general purpose isn't meant to over the spectrum of rifle needs. It doesn't cover from 0-100. It probably covers 25-75 on the range of needs

  • @pnwrob7041
    @pnwrob7041 2 місяці тому

    probably been asked, but what kind of "eyepro" or shades are you wearing in the video? I dig em

  • @Em-Jayyy
    @Em-Jayyy 19 днів тому

    I've been watching some of your older videos where you talk about recce/field rifles and I've appreciated your well thought-out ideas on setups. One rifle/build I'd be interested to hear you talk about in detail is the KE Arms CDR. I've had good experiences with KP-15 lowers and I think the monolithic polymer lower helps a lot with mitigating weight while still being reliable. I'd love to get your thoughts on a CRD/KP-15 build, polymer lowers, and pencil barrels.

  • @highdesertdrew1844
    @highdesertdrew1844 2 місяці тому

    An interesting basis of discussion would be using the Quantified Performance division definitions. They do define GPR as a gun with a barrel of 16.5" or less, with an optic with a maximum magnification of 8.5x and a minimum of 1.5x. Practical precision is the next step up, requiring a

  • @grahamr4916
    @grahamr4916 2 місяці тому +1

    If you’ve ever been hunting in densely wooded northeastern areas, you begin to understand why magnification is so nice.

  • @Joseph_Hamilton
    @Joseph_Hamilton 2 місяці тому +1

    Would there be any chances of you talking about steel target selection for those of us who are trying to get into the kind of shooting that you do. Primarily what you run, and how you place your targets.

  • @timewave02012
    @timewave02012 2 місяці тому

    What would you favor for home defense? 8" 300 BLK, 110gr TAC-TX, Aimpoint T2, and white light?

  • @americankid7782
    @americankid7782 2 місяці тому +2

    I’m going to just say that my Bare Bones build is “General Purpose”.
    All I have on it is a sling mount and an Airsoft Quality Red Dot.

  • @zipzip5807
    @zipzip5807 2 місяці тому +1

    I really enjoy these videos.

  • @flopus7
    @flopus7 2 місяці тому +3

    It's too late batman. I've already ruined 2 different rifles.

  • @robcranston6030
    @robcranston6030 2 місяці тому

    Bcm Recce 16” upper
    Aero m4e1 lower
    Edgar Sherman sling
    Eotech xps2
    Holosun 3x magnifier
    Stream light hlx 1000 lumen light
    Perfect general purpose for my needs.

  • @si1az0
    @si1az0 2 місяці тому +1

    before watching, i think gpr = a do it "most" rifle or do the most common use cases without being hyper specific on one category.

  • @Rexolaboy
    @Rexolaboy 2 місяці тому +1

    16 inch barrel, k can, 1-6 lpvo, lightweight mlok handguard. How hard can this be?

  • @studentofthe556
    @studentofthe556 2 місяці тому

    Great video/knowledge

  • @benbergy388
    @benbergy388 2 місяці тому

    What brand was the tan rifle at 9:13? I absolutely love it

  • @orion3253
    @orion3253 2 місяці тому

    Garand Thumb has got to be the elephant graveyard of memes. Having a setup show up in a Garand Thumb video is like an internet meme being featured in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.

  • @NickAck23
    @NickAck23 6 днів тому

    What is your thoughts on suppressor covers?
    Leaning to not needed for acog or lpvo thoughts?

  • @alejandroflores-samaniego9320
    @alejandroflores-samaniego9320 2 місяці тому

    build a couple builds, 18” 16”, 14.5, 13.9”. suppressor, red dot/holographic. lpvo 1x6 1x8. and irons on one rifle. options are endless. i keep mine kinda of the same nothing super fancy, no gimmicks. just a rifle i can beat up and can continue to run hard. for comp and to shoot the f out off. Great video Mr brass. 😎💪🏽🙏🏽