Alternate Universe: The Fem Fan Experience

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 16

  • @ADavid42
    @ADavid42 2 дні тому +16

    thanks for this essay! Yes there is a link between fanfiction and feminism, and I think it goes back thousands of years, to the traditions of oral history - when women had to encode the realities of their oppression in fantastical myth.
    'Canon' is HIS story. Fanfic, is Her story.

  • @mslindadoll
    @mslindadoll 2 дні тому +9

    As a woman, I have always felt alone in science fiction.
    ....and it's never gotten easier.
    Thank you for this perspective. I will be contemplating it more deeply in the coming days.

    • @WitandFolly
      @WitandFolly  2 дні тому +4

      💗💗💗 it's lonely! And it's hard to keep fandom friendships. I hope this helps a little bit.

  • @joanmoriarity8738
    @joanmoriarity8738 2 дні тому +8

    You have articulated a thought that has been hiding at the edge of my perception for ages. I've felt it for years but only now can I explain it.
    Some fans express their fandom by deciding what is and is not "correct" according to the "rules".
    Others express theirs by inventing new things that are not so much concerned with being "correct" as with being true to the spirit of the characters and stories they love.
    The first of those two groups is subtractive. Their happiness comes from deleting the happiness and pleasure of others. In order to succeed in their purpose, they must force other fans to back down and submit to the superiority of the "canon", punishing and exiling those who refuse to submit. They feel attacked and persecuted when they discover that someone is enjoying heretical breaches of canon.
    The second group is additive. Their happiness comes from finding and creating new things to make people happy. In order to succeed in their purpose, they need to welcome as many new ideas and perspectives as possible. When one of these things resonates with them, they revel in it. When another one just doesn't work for them, they are content to shrug and say "interesting, but not for me."
    There is legitimate pleasure to be found in the exercise of mastery in a particular field of endeavour. When you spend a lot of time and effort learning the details and intricacies of a complex and challenging subject, it's not hard to understand why you might feel irritated when someone comes along and says "yeah, but what if it was something else?" But to harass and threaten and excommunicate them as punishment, especially when you were never forcibly made to take in their ideas in the first place, is wrong.
    Thank you for helping me to externalize this thought. It's like an itch I couldn't reach, and it was driving me crazy.

    • @WitandFolly
      @WitandFolly  2 дні тому +2

      Love this! This is why I make sure to not state anything such as "this is the best way to be a fan" or whatever, because there are many ways to be a fan! And my perspective alone is limiting just because it's only mine. It's good to see others' experiences. This is a really interesting take, thank you!!

  • @galahcockatoo
    @galahcockatoo 2 дні тому +5

    Great video! As a woman, I was always questioned by boys/men about the lore of the comic books and movies, which made me feel like an intruder in that fandom. BTW, Adar being Celeborn fanfic is pretty cool. Who knows...😉

  • @jenf8804
    @jenf8804 День тому +2

    LOVE your videos your takes are always so on point!!!!

  • @willvandom5105
    @willvandom5105 День тому +3

    Finally such a well articulated video about a topic that every marginalized fan has felt in their fandom. It's so true that most fanboys interacts with fandom by excluing others, because they aren't as true of a fan as themselves, just beause they don't know all the lore. So you constantly try to distant yourself more and more from others, which must be quite lonely. While fan-girls try creating an community that welcomes and hear each other

    • @willvandom5105
      @willvandom5105 День тому

      It's like girls do it to escape from their day to day marginalisation, to feel free and welcome in a safe space. While men?? Try to marginalise themselves?? But why tho

  • @swanhill5759
    @swanhill5759 11 годин тому +1

    Such a thought-provoking essay! I’m always intrigued by the history of early fandom, and how the bones of transformative fanwork may make its creativity inherently countercultural. So this is such a treat to watch. Thank you for all the research you must have done, and for those interesting fanzine images 💕
    And I so appreciate the nods to Adariel and the Adar-as-Celeborn theories. I don’t actively partake in much RoP shipping, but I love consuming it for this reason. The side of fandom that indulges imagination are simply always the ones having the most fun. And sometimes that imagining, perhaps due to a frequent focus on character and theme, can happen upon a canon “truth” or correct “theory” because we don’t limit ourselves to rules or more obvious canon in the first place. I mean…there’s a reason why early Reylos predicted the force bond. It wasn’t about uncovering something “true” before others did or one-upping the writers, but about highlighting something that could be interesting & enriching for a dynamic that shippers already spent time enjoying together.

  • @dominikkulcsar2753
    @dominikkulcsar2753 День тому +2

    Thank you for making this video! :)

  • @poenpotzu2865
    @poenpotzu2865 2 дні тому +1

    Thanks for video! It was very informative. I wont lie growing up both in school and with friends fanfiction was often viewed as lazy escapism, so its nice to see a different perspective on this topic.

  • @Merina2222
    @Merina2222 День тому +1

    Very interesting video

  • @BeLikeWater-hu4qk
    @BeLikeWater-hu4qk День тому +1

    Sooo well done 🎉

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 День тому

    Cool