Bought the 17mm and 25mm for my Pocket cam, I'm making an arthouse indie film. I have Meike's Primes, & Artisan 17mm ( which you also reviewed, what a lens for the price) and Sirui anamorphic's and a bunch of vintage glass but these are by far the best I've bought...'by far', I'd spend 3 times that on any major brand to get the same look and feel, they really feel like old Cooke glass. Loved your reviews, hope they bring out an 8mm. Keep em coming bro, bless.
@@markusrytilahti fabulous. And to tell you the truth I'm new to the whole Pro video thing so have been learning as much as i could. Shooting with my 17 mm lens that translate to 34 mm so that's my favourite lens so far. But big plans for the other lens in the kit too. Gh6 with Atmos raw is just swallowed up by my Mbp M1 pro in FCPX. Awesome all the way. I'm in love with my honeymoon right now. Thanks.
Jimmy Jimmy JIMMY!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING???? Seriously, how can you show us these gems and not GIVE them to us!!!!????? Thanks for a great video on something I would not normally see. Good stuff. Very good.
Depends on your camera setting. I used it on my Olympus and there's no crop on 4K or FHD, which means 17mm is 17mm (34mm FF equivalent). If GH5 is similar then it will be the same.
I actually almost bought the 17mm t1.0. I saw it was recently released and almost pulled the trigger. But I couldn’t help think it would resemble their photo counterparts. It seems to look identical in IQ with their photo brothers but much better cine exteriors. Which is nice for some but I prefer the smaller frame of the photo versions. Thanks for doing this!
Interesting set of lenses and you didn't waste any time-the only place I can see to buy them right now is directly from the manufacturer. Mitakon makes good lenses that don't get enough admiration. I was considering getting a Speedmaster 25 years ago and these very well-known reviewers were dismissive of it, like it was a toy, a novelty, when in fact I and others will tell you it's a very solid lens you can do nice work with.
They are pretty cool actually. I do genuinely like them. Very different to my Olympus pro lenses of course, but I would consider them as an unique proposition in some projects, that unique draw is different and something you can't do in post.
@@Red35Photography I could see a young person just out of film school, trained to use this type of lens, for whom these would be a great affordable option, especially if you're most comfortable using sets of matched lenses. And of course they extend your low-light reach into full-frame prime territory. So there's definitely a niche, as you yourself pointed out with a degree of broad-minded insight not universal among influencers. : )
@@Red35Photography that’s fine - I get what you were after - and that’s my biggest decision to make on my lenses, do I go with lenses that utilize my auto focus or do I go to cine Lens for better looking image ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Great content as always!! They do look solid, and the price is surprising!! I'd expect 600€ in Europe though... How do they compare to the Meike T2.2? Those are pretty awesome, a tad cheaper and a tad slower.
I haven't actually tried Meike, though at T1.0, it's quite a bit faster than Meike, and as you can see from my review, at T2.0 it's pretty sharp across the board on both 17 and 25mm, so it means that it's comparable if not better than Meike, so that extra cost is to give you a few stops in light :)
@@Red35Photography I asked the same question to Peter Forsgard, same answer :) let's see if I get to meet him and maybe borrow my Meike lenses. You are totally right about the T1, makes you drool a bit even. Let's see about the pricing though. The Meikes T2.2 in Europe range from 360 to 400€. If these speedmasters stay under 500€ might be a no brainer. If they go north of 600€ starts to be a different story. Thanks for replying anyway!!
The Meike are fantastic lenses for the money and produce beautiful images on my pocket cam, I have the 8mm, which is simply stunning and that's a keeper. I also have the 16 and 35mm, but these speedmasters tho trickier to use are just miles ahead pound for pound.
Great review! Now I'm considering adding cine lens to my collection for my MFT cameras, however I would like to know what is the equivalent aperture in F values shown in your camera when you open these lens at T1.0 I understand that T vs F are not the same but how does it translates in F values? Keep up the great work!
T values are usually a bit higher than F stop values, so I'd guess these lenses are around f0.95. As an example, the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 photography lens is T2.2 in the cine version. There's no direct ratio as T value is affected by lens coating and not just number and type of elements. As another example, the Olympus 17mm f1.8 exposes darker at f1.8 than the 17mm f1.2 Pro at f1.8, showing that the Pro lens has lower T values.
You have an Excellent presentation on all your Videos, you could be the "Pitch Man" for any of these Companies.... My question is , I am very interested in the 17mm, 0.95 , though I didn't want to spend the extra money for the Cinema version, do you think that the basic lens would give me the same result for Video use,,,,,, Thanks again......
Not sure why I watched this but I want to buy the 17mm just because and I rarely shoot video. 😂 I am reminding myself which two lenses I'm hoping to buy this year so I can keep focused on what will actually be beneficial for my photography.
Cheers Tea. I didn't have problem with sound here, I did compress and 'denoise' here due to background TV noise (side effect of filming from home), so unfortunately, unless I want you to hear what's being watched at time of filming, it's gonna bit some sacrifice.
Bought the 17mm and 25mm for my Pocket cam, I'm making an arthouse indie film. I have Meike's Primes, & Artisan 17mm ( which you also reviewed, what a lens for the price) and Sirui anamorphic's and a bunch of vintage glass but these are by far the best I've bought...'by far', I'd spend 3 times that on any major brand to get the same look and feel, they really feel like old Cooke glass. Loved your reviews, hope they bring out an 8mm. Keep em coming bro, bless.
from all of them, which one is really used the most or worth and performing the most?
Very interesting lenses at an incredibly attractive price, thank you for the review!
Cheers, glad you enjoyed the video!
Excellent review! Thanks!
Great review. Good pace and great info.
How is the focus breathing in these? The Meike lenses have very little breathing.
Hi.
What is the music from 00:23?
Ordered the entire kit of lenses for my new GH6. All in and I'll get back to you after some tests
So what is the verdict of these lenses?
@@markusrytilahti fabulous. And to tell you the truth I'm new to the whole Pro video thing so have been learning as much as i could. Shooting with my 17 mm lens that translate to 34 mm so that's my favourite lens so far. But big plans for the other lens in the kit too. Gh6 with Atmos raw is just swallowed up by my Mbp M1 pro in FCPX. Awesome all the way. I'm in love with my honeymoon right now. Thanks.
Another great review. These lenses are interesting. 👍🏼👍🏼
Also how do they compare to Meike or SLR?
any confused over getting these or the Sirui Nightwalker ones?!!
When will you make the video about these lenses vs the olympus pro lenses
Jimmy Jimmy JIMMY!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING???? Seriously, how can you show us these gems and not GIVE them to us!!!!????? Thanks for a great video on something I would not normally see. Good stuff. Very good.
Cheers Dave. I still try to do more variety than just always Olympus, yet still MFT related :) Glad you enjoyed it.
I have the 25 and 17 Ive done reviews for both... but not the cine versions.. will be getting the 35mm!
used in GH5 we need to put the crop factor x 17, 24 and 35mm ?
Depends on your camera setting. I used it on my Olympus and there's no crop on 4K or FHD, which means 17mm is 17mm (34mm FF equivalent). If GH5 is similar then it will be the same.
@@Red35Photography no crop on gh5
I actually almost bought the 17mm t1.0. I saw it was recently released and almost pulled the trigger. But I couldn’t help think it would resemble their photo counterparts. It seems to look identical in IQ with their photo brothers but much better cine exteriors. Which is nice for some but I prefer the smaller frame of the photo versions. Thanks for doing this!
How its compare to voigtlander f0.95 ?
Better :)
Really ? Please make conparison
what size filter does this lens use?
I still miss your comparing the Oly and the Zhongyi lenses for video use!
Interesting set of lenses and you didn't waste any time-the only place I can see to buy them right now is directly from the manufacturer. Mitakon makes good lenses that don't get enough admiration. I was considering getting a Speedmaster 25 years ago and these very well-known reviewers were dismissive of it, like it was a toy, a novelty, when in fact I and others will tell you it's a very solid lens you can do nice work with.
They are pretty cool actually. I do genuinely like them. Very different to my Olympus pro lenses of course, but I would consider them as an unique proposition in some projects, that unique draw is different and something you can't do in post.
@@Red35Photography I could see a young person just out of film school, trained to use this type of lens, for whom these would be a great affordable option, especially if you're most comfortable using sets of matched lenses. And of course they extend your low-light reach into full-frame prime territory. So there's definitely a niche, as you yourself pointed out with a degree of broad-minded insight not universal among influencers. : )
I'm drooling!
Thanks for the review! Btw, what is the follow focus are you using on crane 2S? Cheers.
how is focus breathing on these?
Did you ever make the Olympus versus Mitakon cinema lens video?
Unfortunately no, Mitakon requested the lens back urgently and I never got it back again
@@Red35Photography that’s fine - I get what you were after - and that’s my biggest decision to make on my lenses,
do I go with lenses that utilize my auto focus or do I go to cine Lens for better looking image ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thanks for your great review on these lens. I have a two questions, how long is the focus throw and what do you think of the focus breathing? Cheers!
Great content as always!! They do look solid, and the price is surprising!! I'd expect 600€ in Europe though...
How do they compare to the Meike T2.2? Those are pretty awesome, a tad cheaper and a tad slower.
I haven't actually tried Meike, though at T1.0, it's quite a bit faster than Meike, and as you can see from my review, at T2.0 it's pretty sharp across the board on both 17 and 25mm, so it means that it's comparable if not better than Meike, so that extra cost is to give you a few stops in light :)
@@Red35Photography I asked the same question to Peter Forsgard, same answer :) let's see if I get to meet him and maybe borrow my Meike lenses. You are totally right about the T1, makes you drool a bit even. Let's see about the pricing though. The Meikes T2.2 in Europe range from 360 to 400€. If these speedmasters stay under 500€ might be a no brainer. If they go north of 600€ starts to be a different story.
Thanks for replying anyway!!
The Meike are fantastic lenses for the money and produce beautiful images on my pocket cam, I have the 8mm, which is simply stunning and that's a keeper. I also have the 16 and 35mm, but these speedmasters tho trickier to use are just miles ahead pound for pound.
That’s a damn good intro. Wow!
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed that :) A bit of funky colours, a bit of music did the magic.
Very interesting review. It really made me to think to get one of them. By the way, was this video shot on Oly camera?
Great review! Now I'm considering adding cine lens to my collection for my MFT cameras, however I would like to know what is the equivalent aperture in F values shown in your camera when you open these lens at T1.0
I understand that T vs F are not the same but how does it translates in F values? Keep up the great work!
T values are usually a bit higher than F stop values, so I'd guess these lenses are around f0.95. As an example, the Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 photography lens is T2.2 in the cine version. There's no direct ratio as T value is affected by lens coating and not just number and type of elements. As another example, the Olympus 17mm f1.8 exposes darker at f1.8 than the 17mm f1.2 Pro at f1.8, showing that the Pro lens has lower T values.
0.95, but as it's for MFT cameras, it's the equivalent of about f1.8 on a super 35 camera -- which is damn impressive for an MFT lens.
Nice video, in which stop the lens start producing chromatic aberration?
Are they brighter than the Mitakon f0,95 lenses?
On paper a t1 will be brighter than f.95
Them purple flares hard,though b
Thank you for this video. I am a novice in filmmaking and don't understand much about lenses. Being MFT mounts, will there be a crop factor?
Yes. MFT has 2x crop factor compared to 35mm. So, 17mm=34mm, 25mm=50mm field of view.
thanks !!
You have an Excellent presentation on all your Videos, you could be the "Pitch Man" for any of these Companies.... My question is , I am very interested in the 17mm, 0.95 , though I didn't want to spend the extra money for the Cinema version, do you think that the basic lens would give me the same result for Video use,,,,,, Thanks again......
Not sure why I watched this but I want to buy the 17mm just because and I rarely shoot video. 😂 I am reminding myself which two lenses I'm hoping to buy this year so I can keep focused on what will actually be beneficial for my photography.
ahah Rob, yeah, like I said, photographers never complaint about having too many lenses.
Jimmy, this comment is just technical thing.
Around 4:18-19 there had a unpleasant and metallic clicking sound.
Great review! The talking head indoors sounds very dampened, sometimes hard to understand.
Cheers Tea. I didn't have problem with sound here, I did compress and 'denoise' here due to background TV noise (side effect of filming from home), so unfortunately, unless I want you to hear what's being watched at time of filming, it's gonna bit some sacrifice.
@ 1:04 Cool reverse dolly zoom.
I'm waiting for the Olympus-Zhongyi Comparison Video...with BAITED BREATH!!
Saaaaame
breathing?
all these 'i'm not paid to do this review' reviews. Yeah, but if you give a bad review companies will stop sending you free stuff!!!
Too much focus breathing
Love you Jimmy. Keep the faith brother. Seek Jesus. He is our strength.
rehoused lenses, that lack character