@@idiottalkshistoryLove that series. One of my only complaints was that the quality & amount of detail of the first ~20 episodes felt much lower than the rest of the series (IIRC he later admitted he just wanted to get to the Punic Wars?). Thankfully, that’s a big hole that you’ve managed to fix!
Your videos are incredibly well made and I've learned much about the Romans and their foes! I was and still am completely surprised at the small amount of views and subscribers you have!
This video got your channel a new subscriber. Excellent video and it's a long one to! Thank you for posting this compilation, because now my wife won't say the most dreaded words of any Roman history fan; Are you listening to that Mike Duncan guy again? At least not every night....
Well I set you a challenge and personally I thought you might struggle because I’d never really seen anything discussing the pre Romulus/Remus archeological evidence. Come to think of it there is very little pure archeological information presented by historians on Rome either pre or post Romulus! And information on the prehistory of the region is virtually nonexistent. Not sexy enough I guess. Again I keep searching for the missing jigsaw pieces. But I loved the information you provided especially on the Domus Publica. That’s truly awesome and your explanations made a lot of sense. I’ve never been to Rome but I now have some sort of picture on what life might have looked like in the pre Romulan era. Really there is a bit of a void here that could provide an opportunity for enterprising historians to create an excellent documentary. Thanks again and just to be sure, despite my opening comments, I was never in doubt that you would be able to provide the answers. Merry Christmas ( or Saturnia Festival if you like) to yourself and all the ITH subscribers.
It's always a pleasure to help get you new information! I do think this period is always overshadowed by the more flashy period of the Roman Empire and even to some extent the Republic. It's really shame as there is so much here that lays the foundation for future Roman history! Merry Christmas to you as well and thank you for all of your comments, it really means a lot!
Thanks I love this playlist. Yeah definitely we are missing some information on the Roman monarchy. The story goes from Romulus and Remus “establishing” their respective cities to a Rome that is fairly well “established” seemingly overnight! Rome wasn’t built in a day we were led to believe and for my own part the math just doesn’t work. Do we know anything about the size of Rome in 753BC? Did it emerge out of a smaller town or was it freshly established? I know we don’t have the exact answers to this but I’d love to hear your opinion. Are you aware of how far back the archeological evidence goes? For example do we know what the oldest building in Rome is and when it was built? I’d love some more detail on this if you have any. Thanks again.
Now that is an interesting question! The site that would become Rome was certainly inhabited prior to 753 BCE. The absolute earliest evidence we have of habitation is from the middle of the Bronze Age, about 1700 BCE. This comes in the form of pottery shards in an area on the banks of the Tiber. Further we know that the Capitoline and Palatine were already inhabited by this point and that the area that would become the Roman Forum (in-between the two hills) would be inhabited starting in about 1350 BCE. By the 9th century, every hill likely had some form of settlement on it. It's likely that overtime Rome was created from all of these settlements slowly growing and merging together. In terms of buildings at this point, that is a much tougher question to answer. The problem with early Roman archaeology is that the city has been inhabited for so long and expanded and rebuilt for so long that a lot of the early archeological finds that we could uncover are buried under other important buildings. The absolute earliest material evidence we have are the remains of terrace farms on the Capitoline, these date from about the 13th century BCE. We have also found several graves that correspond to roughly 1000 BCE. We have some evidence of remains of huts on the Palatine Hill that date to the 9th or 8th century. The Domus Publica, the official home of the Pontifex Maximus, was likely built sometime around 750-700 BCE so that is probably the oldest building that we know of that is 100 percent confirmed to be of some importance. The first walls appeared around the Palatine around 730 or 720 BCE. There are some historians who believe the city didn't unite until around 600 BCE. It really depends on who you choose to believe. But certainly by 600 BCE, Rome as a city was fully established and the seven hills began to function as one large unit. In my own personal opinion, I think that Romulus (and maybe even Remus) was a very successful farmer who eventually found himself in charge of the settlement on the Palatine Hill. He then used that position to work with the other hills in the area and together they all formed a sort of confederation that slowly began to merge into one city. But it's also possible that the story of Romulus and Remus has no historical basis and Romulus simply never existed. We will probably never know for sure. Hopefully that helps some! I'm going to stop here before I end up writing a whole book! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for all your research. I'd like to remind people that there is a 300 year gap between the end of monarchy and the establishment of Roman historiography. And 7 kings ruling for 250 years? That's around 30 years for each king. No stone document or monument has ever been found with any of the kings' name on it. And writers 300 years later are going to know that the republic was founded in 509 BCE, the exact year?
it is probably very instructive but the continuous change of random images with the zoom-in and zoom-out is unnerving and brings no actual information .... probably better heard as pure audio.
Yeah, these are my older videos and I really didn't know what exactly I was doing at the time. A part of me just wanted a podcast but another part of me actually wanted to make videos and so I ended up with something in the middle! The newer videos are much more engaging and more visually interesting though I promise! Thanks for watching!
It is very hard to get archaeological evidence that early in Rome's history. The city has just been inhabited so long and built and re-built so many times that much of what was standing in Rome's early history is today buried under other important archeological buildings from centuries later. Because of that, it's difficult to say for sure. What we do know is that around the time that Livy tells us the Rape of the Sabine Women occurred, new Gods began to enter into Roman history. For instance, we are fairly sure that Diana, Fortuna, Luna, and even Saturn and Sol were either Sabine deities or influenced by the Sabines. We know this not only because they appear at this point in history but because the Sabine tribes that did not interact with Rome until later in Rome's history worshipped these Gods outside of Rome. This is all just a long winded answer to say that it really depends on what you consider archaeological evidence. We don't have much in the way of physical items (say weapons or clothes) but we do have Livy's writings and the appearance of these new Gods. Hopefully that answers your question!
Im just shocked about how few followers this channel has. Fantastic video
Absolutely fantastic, not seen a playlist as good as this since the History of Rome podcast
That podcast was straight up my nightly ritual up until I finished it a few months ago.
Ah, the History of Rome is truly the pinnacle of this site IMO. I will never come close to that greatness! Thanks for watching!
@@idiottalkshistoryLove that series. One of my only complaints was that the quality & amount of detail of the first ~20 episodes felt much lower than the rest of the series (IIRC he later admitted he just wanted to get to the Punic Wars?). Thankfully, that’s a big hole that you’ve managed to fix!
Ngl I’ve listened to that podcast like 4 times all the way through
Your videos are incredibly well made and I've learned much about the Romans and their foes! I was and still am completely surprised at the small amount of views and subscribers you have!
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Romulus and Remus story was in part descended from the divine twins of proto-indoeuropean myth.
This video got your channel a new subscriber.
Excellent video and it's a long one to!
Thank you for posting this compilation, because now my wife won't say the most dreaded words of any Roman history fan;
Are you listening to that Mike Duncan guy again?
At least not every night....
My gf says Thersites but I listened to all of Mike's stuff before I was with her 😅
Sorry for nitpicking, but I'm cringing every time you say it. Calvary is the hill Jesus was killed on, mounted soldiers are cavalry.
This is going to be very interesting, but evening here so will watch it tomorrow!!
I think that people already inhabited the area of Rome, but Romulus established the city entity of Roma.
That is true. Rome was inhabited since the late Bronze Age/ early Iron Age
@Imsailig lol why did I just assume it was an empty set of hills near a river.
Amazing stuff man! Can't wait to sink my teeth into this
I have to umbridge with your use of the moniker "Tarquin the Proud". I'll have you know it's actually "Tarky Tark Super Bus"
OMG this is the best Christmas present ever 😄 that you xoxo 💋
Well I set you a challenge and personally I thought you might struggle because I’d never really seen anything discussing the pre Romulus/Remus archeological evidence. Come to think of it there is very little pure archeological information presented by historians on Rome either pre or post Romulus! And information on the prehistory of the region is virtually nonexistent. Not sexy enough I guess. Again I keep searching for the missing jigsaw pieces. But I loved the information you provided especially on the Domus Publica. That’s truly awesome and your explanations made a lot of sense. I’ve never been to Rome but I now have some sort of picture on what life might have looked like in the pre Romulan era. Really there is a bit of a void here that could provide an opportunity for enterprising historians to create an excellent documentary.
Thanks again and just to be sure, despite my opening comments, I was never in doubt that you would be able to provide the answers.
Merry Christmas ( or Saturnia Festival if you like) to yourself and all the ITH subscribers.
It's always a pleasure to help get you new information! I do think this period is always overshadowed by the more flashy period of the Roman Empire and even to some extent the Republic. It's really shame as there is so much here that lays the foundation for future Roman history! Merry Christmas to you as well and thank you for all of your comments, it really means a lot!
You must be so intellectual, deadass. So much research.
I'm a nerd, I've embraced it as the years have gone on!
Great stuff. Subbed.
Thanks I love this playlist.
Yeah definitely we are missing some information on the Roman monarchy. The story goes from Romulus and Remus “establishing” their respective cities to a Rome that is fairly well “established” seemingly overnight! Rome wasn’t built in a day we were led to believe and for my own part the math just doesn’t work.
Do we know anything about the size of Rome in 753BC? Did it emerge out of a smaller town or was it freshly established? I know we don’t have the exact answers to this but I’d love to hear your opinion. Are you aware of how far back the archeological evidence goes? For example do we know what the oldest building in Rome is and when it was built?
I’d love some more detail on this if you have any. Thanks again.
Now that is an interesting question! The site that would become Rome was certainly inhabited prior to 753 BCE. The absolute earliest evidence we have of habitation is from the middle of the Bronze Age, about 1700 BCE. This comes in the form of pottery shards in an area on the banks of the Tiber. Further we know that the Capitoline and Palatine were already inhabited by this point and that the area that would become the Roman Forum (in-between the two hills) would be inhabited starting in about 1350 BCE. By the 9th century, every hill likely had some form of settlement on it. It's likely that overtime Rome was created from all of these settlements slowly growing and merging together.
In terms of buildings at this point, that is a much tougher question to answer. The problem with early Roman archaeology is that the city has been inhabited for so long and expanded and rebuilt for so long that a lot of the early archeological finds that we could uncover are buried under other important buildings. The absolute earliest material evidence we have are the remains of terrace farms on the Capitoline, these date from about the 13th century BCE. We have also found several graves that correspond to roughly 1000 BCE. We have some evidence of remains of huts on the Palatine Hill that date to the 9th or 8th century. The Domus Publica, the official home of the Pontifex Maximus, was likely built sometime around 750-700 BCE so that is probably the oldest building that we know of that is 100 percent confirmed to be of some importance. The first walls appeared around the Palatine around 730 or 720 BCE.
There are some historians who believe the city didn't unite until around 600 BCE. It really depends on who you choose to believe. But certainly by 600 BCE, Rome as a city was fully established and the seven hills began to function as one large unit. In my own personal opinion, I think that Romulus (and maybe even Remus) was a very successful farmer who eventually found himself in charge of the settlement on the Palatine Hill. He then used that position to work with the other hills in the area and together they all formed a sort of confederation that slowly began to merge into one city. But it's also possible that the story of Romulus and Remus has no historical basis and Romulus simply never existed. We will probably never know for sure. Hopefully that helps some! I'm going to stop here before I end up writing a whole book! Thanks for watching!
very good details
This saving my Ancient History GCSE🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for all your research. I'd like to remind people that there is a 300 year gap between the end of monarchy and the establishment of Roman historiography. And 7 kings ruling for 250 years? That's around 30 years for each king. No stone document or monument has ever been found with any of the kings' name on it. And writers 300 years later are going to know that the republic was founded in 509 BCE, the exact year?
Rome was probably a few towns that grew together, Romulus and Remus may have been squabbling Kings over who would control the newly single city
You can swim in chainmail, it's hard but you can. Tiber is not that wide for it to be impossible. Just saying ._.
it is probably very instructive but the continuous change of random images with the zoom-in and zoom-out is unnerving and brings no actual information .... probably better heard as pure audio.
Yeah, these are my older videos and I really didn't know what exactly I was doing at the time. A part of me just wanted a podcast but another part of me actually wanted to make videos and so I ended up with something in the middle! The newer videos are much more engaging and more visually interesting though I promise! Thanks for watching!
Is there archaeological evidence for Sabines living in Rome during this period given the fact that there are 2 Sabine kings ?
It is very hard to get archaeological evidence that early in Rome's history. The city has just been inhabited so long and built and re-built so many times that much of what was standing in Rome's early history is today buried under other important archeological buildings from centuries later. Because of that, it's difficult to say for sure. What we do know is that around the time that Livy tells us the Rape of the Sabine Women occurred, new Gods began to enter into Roman history. For instance, we are fairly sure that Diana, Fortuna, Luna, and even Saturn and Sol were either Sabine deities or influenced by the Sabines. We know this not only because they appear at this point in history but because the Sabine tribes that did not interact with Rome until later in Rome's history worshipped these Gods outside of Rome. This is all just a long winded answer to say that it really depends on what you consider archaeological evidence. We don't have much in the way of physical items (say weapons or clothes) but we do have Livy's writings and the appearance of these new Gods. Hopefully that answers your question!
@@idiottalkshistory yes thank you very much
No problem at all!
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Hey, that's all up to UA-cam!
Being a king degenerates everyone else into a slave,
And Roman's hated slavery given that they decend of slavery