Something to consider… If I remember correctly (it’s been some weeks since I saw Morley’s video), Morley not only staged the table in a more upscale setting, he also included multiple pictures of him working on different stages of the process. Most people don’t consider how much time and labor can go into making a piece. By showing all the various steps and tools used, it helps give them context as to why a given item might have the price tag attached to it.
Fair, but at the end of the day it's a basic coffee table. Just because you pour more of your time into it doesn't automatically imbue it with more value, otherwise just keep working at the table forever until it's "worth" a million dollars. At some point the market will only pay so much, and there's only so many people willing to pay $600 for a coffee table regardless of how much TLC was used in its creation. Something to consider when watching video like Morley's is how repeatable their claim is. Based on his channel I believe Morley is actually making the lion's share of money from views, so he's incentivized to embellish what he claims to sell his work for. A simple Google search for similar items of work will tell you a more accurate estimate for what you can sell it for. Maybe a slight bump if your piece is truly artesian. If you truly could make outrageous returns consistently on this stuff the market would be flooded by people far more competent than DIYers looking for a side hustle, and the competition for the same coffee table would be competed down.
@@Trikkie87 my point is, you have to track total time to completion of the table. Given all the work from finding a free pallet to final product you need to look at the final average hourly rate. For people new to woodworking it will take even longer, lowering their final hourly rate. Not saying there's no one that will pay hundreds for a coffee table, you'd have to see the turn around time. As this guy shows, even he couldn't move a similar table to the other guy's who managed to sell it for $550. I'm personally skeptical, and consider it may have been staged for what I think is Morely's real money making idea, being a UA-camr with fantastical claims and a skillset.
Also Morley was in Toronto Canada which has a different (and less valuable) currency compared to the u.s . 600 Canadian dollars is roughly equivalent to 450 dollars USD. Still isn’t cheap but more justified
Shows you the power of design. Even though they are very similar Morley's table look much more high end. The placement of the legs and the proportions of the tabletop made all the difference.
@@Amongus-iq4kmI would have agreed with you three years ago but now I'd have to disagree. I've been buying and selling sofas on Facebook for three years, and usually free items are free for a reason. People are more drawn to expensive items because the condition is usually new or close to new. Free items are usually trash worthy. I've bought sofas for like £20 off people, and sold them about three days later for like £450. Which is about 2/3 of the price if you bought it new in store. It also doesn't help when you set a price and start lowering it a few days later. The moment someone sees the price lower, they know that persons looking for a quicker sale, and they can either wait until it's really low or offer a ridiculous price.
I have a basic shop and have access to local craft wood and even with reasonable prices it’s still tough to sell fine built tables. With all the cheap crap you can order online not many people appreciate a craftsman’s time. Great video
I would love to buy craftsman made furniture, but Ikea is more my budget. And with 3 kids, you know anything nice you buy is going to be trashed in months.
@@CB-rv2lj to make stuff at IKEA's sale price would cost that much in real wood. Even really cheap handmade stuff with soft wood is 3-4 times the cost of IKEA.
@@CB-rv2lj can’t. Cost of material is usually just as much if not more then some of those ikea type pieces. Almost zero profit margin with building cheap little projects
@@TheDiosdebaca spot on. I 100% appreciate the craftsman's time, but I cannot afford their time. Especially for furniture the kids will probably destroy over time.
As someone who sells speakers and audio gear on marketplace, I can say with 1000% certainty that the quality of the photos and the background you choose plays a gigantic role on the amount of clicks and interest you get. Speakers are a visual art to many, and so to see them fresh and clean and in a well-lit, organized room seems to be the difference between scrolling by and investigating. I would image furniture is the same way, if not more so.
I'm so glad someone has mentioned this. I buy and sell sofas, and have done for three years. One thing you learn quickly (which others who do what I do in my area haven't) is that, you gotta have a really good variety of photos to advertise your item with. Many of them take pictures outside dusty garages, and horribly lit areas, and they have those sofas for weeks with the prices consistently getting lower. I always have my photos done outside but then run an AI App on my phone which generates a professional looking background. My sofas usually go for twice what others would price at, and that's mainly due to the images I provide. They usually sell within 2-6 days. Keep hustling those speakers though man. Wish you all the best ✌🏻✌🏻
@@tuvshuun2758 hey. I used an app on Android called photoroom. Great selection, but I've started to use my main photo on my advert listings with a generated living room background, then the rest with just a white background (with shadows). Let me know if you need more information.
I really appreciate your honesty. I built my wife a really nice desk and was thinking about doing more thanks for sharing this video. It gave me the motivation to move forward.
A Pro tip I use to get the joint nice without a jointer is to put both mini slabs as close together as u can then run down the joint with a circular saw, any gap under 1/8th in is gone, repeat until the gaps gone, then glue it up. makes a seamless matched joint.
A little warning for anyone who wants to use pallets for furniture; make sure you know the entire history of what's been stored on those pallets. You don't want that ancient wood that's gone through ten oversees containers and been soaked in rain, piss, mold and a chemical spill. You never gonna resurface that, because it's core deep. Food store pallets are always the safest.
I used to work at a chemical plant. There are some chemicals that will unalive you if you get an eyedroplet in your blood stream (hydrofloric acid comes to mind). Other acids eat through EVERYTHING including their own containers. Always know the source and steer clear of pallets from chemical plants
I do furniture delivery for a living and let me tell you. It is absolutely amazing what people will spend $1000 on. I’ve seen chairs that are absolutely uncomfortable and look nasty with green coloring and they spent $500 for a chair u can’t sit on and would not want too. But some good hard work and something nice they won’t even bat a eye at. You have to wait for months sometimes to get someone to even be remotely interested. I’ve even seen a used big lots sofa sold at a refurbished store for furniture for double the money and it sold. But I had a lazy chair for disabled people brand new had to wait 5 months to sell at $200 yet they go new for over $600 bottom line when comes to furniture you can’t predict what will sell or how well even if same piece sold before
The problem with selling these type of things online, where you tried, is that most of those people are looking for hand me down cheap options to basically be functional. Also, it may have helped if you found pallets made from maple or oak. No one in the $600 price range wants pine.
@@ollevunderink6232 pallet wood is cut from the left over center of a log, thus they can be made of any wood species. Where I live, Midwest, the most common species cut down and used at mills is red oak, so most pallets I see are made of oak. Also, I worked at a mill for 4 years that shipped a weekly load of pallet wood to Coca-Cola. 90% of that wood was red oak.
@@ollevunderink6232 I worked in a pallet shop in Northern Indiana for two years. We tossed mostly hardwood into the machine. I cried almost when I had to use spalted maple. Then cedar came in one day. I pulled all of the pieces out and went to the office and bought them. lol But We used what ever people were cutting out of the woods. The good logs went to the auction block. But we saw a lot of hickory, hard maple, soft maple, cottonwood and wild cherry and also a lot of red oak.
I built a 20' by 12' Shed/Garage out of pallets I got for free (pre covid, not free anymore!). The blue Ones here are Maple. Super strong. Love pallets!
I just moved into a 350 sqft studio apartment so I was pretty torn that I might have to down size from the California King Sized Tempur-pedic mattress that my Sister gave to me after she sold her house this summer. But then I consulted with the design company Pinterest and then went to the popular building and construction conglomerate, Tik-Tok and what we came up with is beautiful! We used a total of 4 pallets cut and trimmed to an acute triangle shape or “a cute triangle” as my girlfriend likes to joke. Then after taking off the cover to the tempur-pedic mattress, I drew the outline of the cute ass triangle then carefully Cut It out! After some sanding and staining for appearance and then sealing it with whatever that shit was the guy at Home Depot convinced me to buy, I have an awesome hunchbacked Hobbit shaped bed that fits perfect!
Plus the photo really does matter. A friend of mine was struggling to sell an old table of his for weeks on craigslist. I got him to reupload it with pictures taken in front of a white backdrop and it sold that day.
Those were all the cleanest "free pallets" I've ever seen. Usually the free ones are basically only good as firewood - half broken, sun bleached, water damaged, warped...
I found a huge pile of solid oak pallets made of 4x4,s and 2x3 s at a steel company I took about 10 truck loads and they still have piles out every week, the only bad thing is most of them are wrapped in tarp that are stapled on so you got to dig the staples out
Welcome to video production. Like how Morley's vid is a scam because you ain't gonna sell evey pallet you turn into a table for $500 This video gets top quality pallets (materials) uses a purpose built space and everything on hand an claim its a d.i.y replica There's always a behind the scenes
John, thanks for making this video. As a hobby, I make handmade entryway benches out of reclaimed materials including welding up the steel frames. I have been trying to sell one of them for the past couple of months and have not found much interest. Of course, with the financial situation that most people find themselves in now, it may never sell.
You can actually get a lot of scrap wood/lumber, cribbing etc., from Home Depot/Lowe's and other lumber yards, that you don't have to spend time and energy disassembling and removing nails. Plus it can be had in larger pieces. You can also get their longer lumber pallets that have 1 inch to even 2 inch thick and 4 to 6 inch wide material that is rough cut.
My dad did this with pallets. He made chairs for children out of them, could get 2 from a free pallet, sold them for $80 each. He also made one table that we have sitting on our deck, sturdy as AF, and after nearly 8 years, it is still going strong. Cost to make $40, if it had been bought over $400. and would be rotting now. Moral of this - you can make quality, long lasting stuff out of pine pallets.
Who the fuck buys childrens chairs for $80 a pop? I bought a solid wood set of a small desk and two chair for my kids in IKEA for something like $35. Props to your dad if he genuinely did that, but those buyers are idiots :D
There is no free time. It all costs you something in dollars or taking away from something else. Hobbies are fine, but there’s something critically wrong with the idea that there is free time. Don’t waste time- time has a cost that’s often more expensive than dollars.
It comes down to : it's a pine top table. Marginally above Ikea or Walmart, and not worth such a high price point. Heck, you can get those bartop butcher block style slabs in that size for under $200, screw in those $50 legs, and finish and would have a hard time selling it for even $300 for what amounts to a loss.
Marketplace would be like, can you hold it for me and then they don't show up. When someone finally does come they try to talk you way down on the price after saying they didn't know what they were coming to get when it was all described in the post. That's after they show up 5 hours late because of getting lost on the way over some how. Maybe that's just my experience. Thanks for the great vids.
That’s the part I don’t get: why spend so much time on ‘free’ materials when for relatively small dollars up front you can build the same thing yet have more time for family, friends, recreation - OR making money.
It’s funny how many people comment on how pallet wood isn’t worth the time and effort, and how you need to find the really clean wood for it to be worthwhile and useable. I did some woodworking in high school and 25 years later, inherited some old basic tools just like what was used in this video, and I started doing some small projects with pallet wood, because it was FREE, and I wasn’t doing anything fancy to sell, I was just doing it for myself and as gifts for family and friends. I’ve gotten pretty good at what I do, and have stockpiles of slats, just waiting for whatever I wanna do next. So, is working with pallets a lot of work? Hell yes. But if you have some time, creativity, and limited resources, it’s definitely worth it.
I do woodworking as a side business so videos using cheaper tools and little space are an interest of mine. Your content is amazing and in a format that is more entertaining than any other on youtube.
I love these videos because as a aspiring woodworker without all the tools, I get to learn work-arounds like the diy track saw and the drill press attachment.
I wouldn't call that a track saw. I would call that a zero clearance cutting fence. A track saw jig would surround the circular saw on both sides. Lots of videos on UA-cam showing how to do both. Making a zero clearance cutting fence for my circular saw was a great investment of my time.
@@michellealexander6230 Just because he Called it that does not make it so. Lots of people don't know the proper name of tools even though they use them everyday.
Every other woodworker on UA-cam while using the most expensive tool on planet: "you can do it too" John: "I will use the one that you have, coz I love you" Me: my man, my brother from another mother! (melts in tears of happiness)
When I made you your flag, I had a 12” delta planer and a 4” delta jointer. Along with a 12” delta contractor saw and a DEWALT sander. It is possible to make great things with basic entry level tools. Now I have a 8” helical head jointer. 18” powermatic planer, a delta Unisaw (from the 1970s) and a mirka sanding system. Little and often makes much our good friend once said.
@@CasualClocker I know. But you have to admit. The old Rockwell delta line of tools were very well made and you can find a number of them currently for entry level prices.
A couple things with Morley's listing. He's in Canada, so his $600 would be ~$450 USD. He's also in Toronto, which has a cost of living equivalent to NY city
Selling handcrafted items in a mass produced industry is always like that. It's like Pagani trying to compete with Ford on price. It's stupid. You can sell your finely crafted pieces like they are art, or you can not sell them. But you aint competing with IKEA on price.
i went through a pallet phase about 5 years ago. I built everything, table, bar, cooler box, you name it. I forgot to seal everything and within a year and a half it was all garbage. live and learn i guess
was it all outdoors? or does it not matter with pine? reason asking: building a (garaged) workbench from (southern yellow) pine. wasnt planning on treating/sealing the wood.
I just happened to come across your channel because I watch Morley. This particular video is the first one of yours I saw. I struggled to watch because I really thought you were unfairly dogging Morley. And I thought you were being a bully. In the end, you redeemed yourself. I didn’t know you were actually praising Morley. You sold me. I am subscribing. Looking forward to more of your videos.
It's worth maybe a bill, bill and a half at most. It doesn't look like anything special, is the issue. People only drop large bills on stuff that looks unique. This looks like something you can pick up at your local discount furniture shop.
Although I haven’t tried a table as a resale project, I reclaim wood from pallets, and other sources, for reuse as custom kitchen backsplashes, accent walls, and a variety of other projects. After ensuring all materials are free of fasteners, the boards (which may be oak, pine, fir, ash, poplar, walnut, etc.) are planed to a uniform thickness, and cut to standard widths (varies depending on the board). Once planed, an ugly dirty board often exposes amazing and beautiful grain structure. There is a lot of labor to get the boards ready, however, installing custom made backsplashes and accent walls made from genuine reclaim easily surpasses the $600 mark for a pallet.
My best pallet finds are the tubular steel ones that farm implements are shipped bolted into. They make great bases for welding and work tables. Sometimes I can talk the Tractor Supply store out of one.
$600 at least to me, and apparently most, was too high of a price point. Not everyone is up for negotiations or willing to make offers that are greatly lower than ask. I’d bet the table would sell if the price dropped. A person near me makes pallet wood furniture and while they don’t use metal legs their coffee tables only sell for $100-$250.
Just factor in $40USD/hr and they are -$0.00 net loss. Think of the taxes at 27% too take that chunk. It could only hold 1hr of labor at $100. Just losing money.
Hell yes for the hand planer!! It's the only kind I have actually and it REALLY needs to be cleaned up like yours... do tell how to do that!! Please and thanks 😊
Entertaining video, and totally worth the watch, especially that little portable drill press! That made it worthwhile for me even beyond the entertainment value. Thanks!! New subscriber, but I'll be going back to watch your previous ones as well. Great work!
you guys are super lucky having a shop like that. I dont even have a shop nor a house, I just living in a appartment, I set up my workbench everyday outside the appartment. I wish I could live in my own house 🙏
Me wasting 10s of thousands of dollars to find out I can make custom furniture that doesn’t sell for under $1,000 dollars… 😢😢 kidding. I saw his video before this. For how little he knew, he gave it his all, and impressed me with his hustle.
Your table ended up looking like it was made from cheap pine... because it was. Morley's pallet was a heavy-duty pallet designed to carry greater weight. Because of that, the wood he used was harder, had a tighter grain, and just plain looked better. Even with the same tools and same skills, Morley's table was going to end up looking better.
The thing is you can spend 10 minutes looking at furniture in a donation store, or hand-me-down store, or cheaper online listings, or such. You'll see tens of couches, tables, workbenches, stools, chairs, cabinets, all kinds of hand-made stuff, just like that table but missing a liquid glaze over the top usually. Something like the table shown here would be sold for under $100 but over $30 anywhere I've seen. That's because you'll usually see another 5 short tables right next to it for $5-15 for example. Selling it to a person 1 to 1 like you tried to was the best option for a better payout, but most people already have a coffee table or look for a cheap simple one. Have to find a niche looking room for it to match in or perhaps pair it with a larger table of the same materials.
Resent the implication that an R4512 is a “beginner tool”. I’ve had one for 9 years now and - to be fair - I upgraded the fence to a Biessemeyer style fence because the factory fence was crap, but it’s a great saw! Powerful, quick startup when wired to 220 and with a good blade on it it cuts fantastic. I did have a bit of trunnion trouble but I fixed that easily myself. Not gonna say it’s as good as a Powermatic or a Sawstop but I am far from a beginner and I am not held back by my table saw very often. I’d upgrade if I had tons of cash rolling around but for the price point it’s a fantastic saw in the hands of someone who knows how to tune their machine.
Anyone can say they got this much for a small table, I just watched his most recent one and he made a desk and settled on 1000 dollars but says the guy liked it so much he paid him 1200 for it. Not really believing that one, specially since he broke a foot off while taking it up to the guys apartment. Your table was nice but a 200 dollar price tag is more realistic.
What's that giant machine Onwood 8124RK machine behind you when you are applying finish to the table? A wide belt sander with a window? Hope to see a video about it soon.
Selling pallet tables seems to be harder than it seems. Im struggling, I might need to refinish mine and paint or stain it.. You and Morley inspired my pallet table build, It would be soooo awesome if you checked my build video out!!
Your giving in to the haters, I'm so sorry you are awesomely talented. Awesome job. Also I'm a random onlooker as we just got a few free pine amazing looking pallets, and I was looking for projects this is well beyond my skill level but still watched it though :).
I could definitely see myself buying a table like that for $150, knowing that it it’s basically just glue and pallet pine I would probably buy it for $70
thank you for sharing the great idea, i will recycle the old pallets that i have prepared in the warehouse and will make a handmade one without using any electrical equipment. good luck!
I literally just commented on the guy you're making a response to xD saying I could do it in half the time, I didn't mention without big shop tools xD but yeah... I love your take on this. Kept it simple, kept it easy, you know what you're doing
That arch looks almost perfect template for the transmission hump in the rear seat for a truck box might need to be a little taller but I wish I would have thought abt that when making my box
I saw this table on your instagram and was so confused. I was like “that’s pine. What’s going on?” You made me question my wood knowledge. I was thinking ‘maybe it’s not pine. Maybe it’s some fancy species I don’t yet know about.’ I was seriously so confused. 😂😂😂
Hey John, if or when you break down another pallet. If you have a small car jack, use it between the boards on the pallet it makes it a lot easier to disassemble. Anyhow thanks for another great one bro.. take care, and happy holidays.
Great video. I always enjoy watching someone who really knows what they’re doing. I’m just now starting to look at planers and was looking at that DeWalt planer a few days ago, never knowing that something like that other planer you have even existed. Had to go look it up! Of course, NOW I want it, but I don’t even know why. LOL I’m guessing it’s like the difference between driving an old VW bug and a Mercedes.
Pallets are pretty good if you can get them for cheap. My dad built me a sturdy "play" house /house for my bunny when i was a kid (30 years ago, i would guess). It was more the focus of the bunny and the space for me inside was for hay bales and all the things I needed for my bunny. He did it right. After I grew up and didn't go to this place where he built it, it's just about the only structure still around from that time. They sawed it off it's foundation too to give it a better place on the grounds. They must've used a crane or something cos it's not that small. They put all sorts of crappy paint on it over the years, but I will always remember it as it was. Black tar paint and a white door and accents. It wasn't girly, cos daddy's girl was a tomboy. It was practical and just good. The door never stuck but kept the wind out. All that good stuff. He was a metal worker by profession, working on ships. If I tell my dad I am proud of him, the old man will tear up. :) Edit: btw, not playing favourites. I love the smell of wood being worked and metal being worked.
Great video, Morley is a friend of mine I've known for a few years now and he does incredible work and his way of approaching projects is stellar. Really glad you appreciated his work.
@Ricardo A. Marconi your entitled to your opinion, i feel that that opinion is wrong and he did make a great table. And of that is the way you feel show me one that you've made thats better.
Just once I'd like to see someone make a pallet from an old table.
Jason at Bourbon Moth made a very expensive pallet, not from a table though... a funny watch that one.
@@Loan--Wolf I expect a full written review, no more than 2 sides of A4, Arial size 10.
@@JayOfBurn i have watched him before he is good
Haha very good 😊
Totally agree!!! Just said that and then saw your comment, lol!
Something to consider… If I remember correctly (it’s been some weeks since I saw Morley’s video), Morley not only staged the table in a more upscale setting, he also included multiple pictures of him working on different stages of the process. Most people don’t consider how much time and labor can go into making a piece. By showing all the various steps and tools used, it helps give them context as to why a given item might have the price tag attached to it.
Fair, but at the end of the day it's a basic coffee table. Just because you pour more of your time into it doesn't automatically imbue it with more value, otherwise just keep working at the table forever until it's "worth" a million dollars. At some point the market will only pay so much, and there's only so many people willing to pay $600 for a coffee table regardless of how much TLC was used in its creation.
Something to consider when watching video like Morley's is how repeatable their claim is. Based on his channel I believe Morley is actually making the lion's share of money from views, so he's incentivized to embellish what he claims to sell his work for. A simple Google search for similar items of work will tell you a more accurate estimate for what you can sell it for. Maybe a slight bump if your piece is truly artesian. If you truly could make outrageous returns consistently on this stuff the market would be flooded by people far more competent than DIYers looking for a side hustle, and the competition for the same coffee table would be competed down.
@@88jpen this. I just googled it, between the 200 and 600 price range you can find a shitload of beautifull wooden tables.
@@Trikkie87 my point is, you have to track total time to completion of the table. Given all the work from finding a free pallet to final product you need to look at the final average hourly rate. For people new to woodworking it will take even longer, lowering their final hourly rate. Not saying there's no one that will pay hundreds for a coffee table, you'd have to see the turn around time. As this guy shows, even he couldn't move a similar table to the other guy's who managed to sell it for $550. I'm personally skeptical, and consider it may have been staged for what I think is Morely's real money making idea, being a UA-camr with fantastical claims and a skillset.
Also Morley was in Toronto Canada which has a different (and less valuable) currency compared to the u.s . 600 Canadian dollars is roughly equivalent to 450 dollars USD. Still isn’t cheap but more justified
He also got his friends to come over and fake buy it. That also helps.
Shows you the power of design. Even though they are very similar Morley's table look much more high end. The placement of the legs and the proportions of the tabletop made all the difference.
The fact it didn't sell on Marketplace makes this believable.
ikr i was like people can barely give shit away for free on marketplace and hes charging 600
People buy decent stuff on marketplace. And sell.
You either don’t have the right product (s) or the wrong approach. Plenty of money on marketplace.
If he lowered the price someone might have bought it.
@@Amongus-iq4kmI would have agreed with you three years ago but now I'd have to disagree. I've been buying and selling sofas on Facebook for three years, and usually free items are free for a reason. People are more drawn to expensive items because the condition is usually new or close to new. Free items are usually trash worthy.
I've bought sofas for like £20 off people, and sold them about three days later for like £450. Which is about 2/3 of the price if you bought it new in store.
It also doesn't help when you set a price and start lowering it a few days later. The moment someone sees the price lower, they know that persons looking for a quicker sale, and they can either wait until it's really low or offer a ridiculous price.
@@KentPetersonmoneyis that how it works??
I have a basic shop and have access to local craft wood and even with reasonable prices it’s still tough to sell fine built tables. With all the cheap crap you can order online not many people appreciate a craftsman’s time. Great video
I would love to buy craftsman made furniture, but Ikea is more my budget. And with 3 kids, you know anything nice you buy is going to be trashed in months.
make cheap crap then?
@@CB-rv2lj to make stuff at IKEA's sale price would cost that much in real wood. Even really cheap handmade stuff with soft wood is 3-4 times the cost of IKEA.
@@CB-rv2lj can’t. Cost of material is usually just as much if not more then some of those ikea type pieces. Almost zero profit margin with building cheap little projects
@@TheDiosdebaca spot on. I 100% appreciate the craftsman's time, but I cannot afford their time. Especially for furniture the kids will probably destroy over time.
As someone who sells speakers and audio gear on marketplace, I can say with 1000% certainty that the quality of the photos and the background you choose plays a gigantic role on the amount of clicks and interest you get. Speakers are a visual art to many, and so to see them fresh and clean and in a well-lit, organized room seems to be the difference between scrolling by and investigating. I would image furniture is the same way, if not more so.
I'm so glad someone has mentioned this. I buy and sell sofas, and have done for three years. One thing you learn quickly (which others who do what I do in my area haven't) is that, you gotta have a really good variety of photos to advertise your item with.
Many of them take pictures outside dusty garages, and horribly lit areas, and they have those sofas for weeks with the prices consistently getting lower.
I always have my photos done outside but then run an AI App on my phone which generates a professional looking background. My sofas usually go for twice what others would price at, and that's mainly due to the images I provide. They usually sell within 2-6 days.
Keep hustling those speakers though man. Wish you all the best ✌🏻✌🏻
@@KempandSonProjectswhat app?
@@KempandSonProjectswhat app you use?
@@KempandSonProjectswhich AI program do you use?
@@tuvshuun2758 hey. I used an app on Android called photoroom. Great selection, but I've started to use my main photo on my advert listings with a generated living room background, then the rest with just a white background (with shadows). Let me know if you need more information.
I’d love to see this same video but you use everything you have at the shop to make the fanciest table with a pallet. Opposite of only cheap tools :)
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i just think it can be done alot faster. the end product would be very close to the same
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I really appreciate your honesty.
I built my wife a really nice desk and was thinking about doing more thanks for sharing this video. It gave me the motivation to move forward.
The only reason Morley's video went viral is because we were all amazed he still had all his fingers by the end.
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A Pro tip I use to get the joint nice without a jointer is to put both mini slabs as close together as u can then run down the joint with a circular saw, any gap under 1/8th in is gone, repeat until the gaps gone, then glue it up. makes a seamless matched joint.
A little warning for anyone who wants to use pallets for furniture; make sure you know the entire history of what's been stored on those pallets. You don't want that ancient wood that's gone through ten oversees containers and been soaked in rain, piss, mold and a chemical spill. You never gonna resurface that, because it's core deep. Food store pallets are always the safest.
When I say this people think I’m gatekeeping. So thank you Patrick you’re 100% correct! 💪🏻
You are correct. I managed a pallet company years ago and did in fact encountered that problem. Chemical companies use pallets too.
I used to work at a chemical plant. There are some chemicals that will unalive you if you get an eyedroplet in your blood stream (hydrofloric acid comes to mind). Other acids eat through EVERYTHING including their own containers. Always know the source and steer clear of pallets from chemical plants
Hell many pallets have to be treated to kill bugs and the like to be used for shipping overseas
Don't tell this to Jackman Works...
I do furniture delivery for a living and let me tell you. It is absolutely amazing what people will spend $1000 on. I’ve seen chairs that are absolutely uncomfortable and look nasty with green coloring and they spent $500 for a chair u can’t sit on and would not want too. But some good hard work and something nice they won’t even bat a eye at. You have to wait for months sometimes to get someone to even be remotely interested. I’ve even seen a used big lots sofa sold at a refurbished store for furniture for double the money and it sold. But I had a lazy chair for disabled people brand new had to wait 5 months to sell at $200 yet they go new for over $600 bottom line when comes to furniture you can’t predict what will sell or how well even if same piece sold before
The problem with selling these type of things online, where you tried, is that most of those people are looking for hand me down cheap options to basically be functional. Also, it may have helped if you found pallets made from maple or oak. No one in the $600 price range wants pine.
where are you finding oak pallets?
@@ollevunderink6232 pallet wood is cut from the left over center of a log, thus they can be made of any wood species. Where I live, Midwest, the most common species cut down and used at mills is red oak, so most pallets I see are made of oak. Also, I worked at a mill for 4 years that shipped a weekly load of pallet wood to Coca-Cola. 90% of that wood was red oak.
@@jonkoskie8587 damn that's nice. Where i live all pallets are pinewood. Ive never seen them made from anything else
@@ollevunderink6232 I used to find oak pallets all the time but in the last year or 2 it's been mostly pine I've found
@@ollevunderink6232 I worked in a pallet shop in Northern Indiana for two years. We tossed mostly hardwood into the machine. I cried almost when I had to use spalted maple. Then cedar came in one day. I pulled all of the pieces out and went to the office and bought them. lol But We used what ever people were cutting out of the woods. The good logs went to the auction block. But we saw a lot of hickory, hard maple, soft maple, cottonwood and wild cherry and also a lot of red oak.
I built a 20' by 12' Shed/Garage out of pallets I got for free (pre covid, not free anymore!). The blue Ones here are Maple. Super strong. Love pallets!
As a novice woodworker, this encouraged me SO much! Love your work and your humor.
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@@johncarpenter5415 It's hilarious how many of you actual NPCs do not see the irony of randomly typing "NPC" underneath comments.
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I just moved into a 350 sqft studio apartment so I was pretty torn that I might have to down size from the California King Sized Tempur-pedic mattress that my Sister gave to me after she sold her house this summer. But then I consulted with the design company Pinterest and then went to the popular building and construction conglomerate, Tik-Tok and what we came up with is beautiful! We used a total of 4 pallets cut and trimmed to an acute triangle shape or “a cute triangle” as my girlfriend likes to joke. Then after taking off the cover to the tempur-pedic mattress, I drew the outline of the cute ass triangle then carefully Cut
It out! After some sanding and staining for appearance and then sealing it with whatever that shit was the guy at Home Depot convinced me to buy, I have an awesome hunchbacked Hobbit shaped bed that fits perfect!
Morley is in Canada. His initial listing of $600 is around $445 USD. You probably would have gotten a lot more hits at that price.
Toronto is also a pretty hipster place. Not sure where John is located but it's definitely an amazing market for products like these.
Great point Eli
And Toronto has roughly 3x the population of Pittsburgh. Along with Toronto probably being a more “hip” city as Neil said.
Plus the photo really does matter. A friend of mine was struggling to sell an old table of his for weeks on craigslist. I got him to reupload it with pictures taken in front of a white backdrop and it sold that day.
thanks for letting us know🤣I can't believe we didn't think of that when making the video
Morley made his table with love.
Those were all the cleanest "free pallets" I've ever seen. Usually the free ones are basically only good as firewood - half broken, sun bleached, water damaged, warped...
I found a huge pile of solid oak pallets made of 4x4,s and 2x3 s at a steel company I took about 10 truck loads and they still have piles out every week, the only bad thing is most of them are wrapped in tarp that are stapled on so you got to dig the staples out
Welcome to video production. Like how Morley's vid is a scam because you ain't gonna sell evey pallet you turn into a table for $500
This video gets top quality pallets (materials) uses a purpose built space and everything on hand an claim its a d.i.y replica
There's always a behind the scenes
Finding “clean” pallets is the least difficult aspect of all this. They are easy to find if you know where to look
@@TheOlderSoldier where
@@WoManticore Paper printing Industry use fine pallets, I got mine for free. And clean...
John, thanks for making this video. As a hobby, I make handmade entryway benches out of reclaimed materials including welding up the steel frames. I have been trying to sell one of them for the past couple of months and have not found much interest. Of course, with the financial situation that most people find themselves in now, it may never sell.
change up the marketing. 99% of securing that sale is in the marketing.
You can actually get a lot of scrap wood/lumber, cribbing etc., from Home Depot/Lowe's and other lumber yards, that you don't have to spend time and energy disassembling and removing nails. Plus it can be had in larger pieces. You can also get their longer lumber pallets that have 1 inch to even 2 inch thick and 4 to 6 inch wide material that is rough cut.
My dad did this with pallets. He made chairs for children out of them, could get 2 from a free pallet, sold them for $80 each. He also made one table that we have sitting on our deck, sturdy as AF, and after nearly 8 years, it is still going strong. Cost to make $40, if it had been bought over $400. and would be rotting now. Moral of this - you can make quality, long lasting stuff out of pine pallets.
Yes but let's say he charged $15per hour of his time. What would be the actual cost
@@vanderumd11 Obviously, the dad made it in his hobby time or free time.
Who the fuck buys childrens chairs for $80 a pop? I bought a solid wood set of a small desk and two chair for my kids in IKEA for something like $35. Props to your dad if he genuinely did that, but those buyers are idiots :D
The A in AF stands for As, just for next time 😅
There is no free time. It all costs you something in dollars or taking away from something else. Hobbies are fine, but there’s something critically wrong with the idea that there is free time. Don’t waste time- time has a cost that’s often more expensive than dollars.
20 minute breakdown including nails is pretty solid!
Worth running a metal detector/magnet over that before running pallet wood through
It comes down to : it's a pine top table. Marginally above Ikea or Walmart, and not worth such a high price point.
Heck, you can get those bartop butcher block style slabs in that size for under $200, screw in those $50 legs, and finish and would have a hard time selling it for even $300 for what amounts to a loss.
I agree with you, the materials are garbage and no amount of varnish is going to change the fact that it's simply very low-quality wood.
Straight forward presentation, clean video without unnecessary scripts and beautiful videography.
Subscribed !!
Marketplace would be like, can you hold it for me and then they don't show up. When someone finally does come they try to talk you way down on the price after saying they didn't know what they were coming to get when it was all described in the post. That's after they show up 5 hours late because of getting lost on the way over some how. Maybe that's just my experience. Thanks for the great vids.
This is awesome. My best friend made an entire bed frame from old pallets and it come out awesome. Took him like 3 months but she was a beauty
That’s the part I don’t get: why spend so much time on ‘free’ materials when for relatively small dollars up front you can build the same thing yet have more time for family, friends, recreation - OR making money.
Epic Upcycling is an awesome channel where the guy uses pallets to make very cool stuff. It’s what got me into using pallets.
He does epic stuff indeed, definitely worth the watch !
Love this mate straight after watching Morley's 12 hundy table! Great finishing statement.
All you had to do is Have a friend pose as a buyer. Then you would have done it just like Morley.
😂😂😂😂
It’s funny how many people comment on how pallet wood isn’t worth the time and effort, and how you need to find the really clean wood for it to be worthwhile and useable. I did some woodworking in high school and 25 years later, inherited some old basic tools just like what was used in this video, and I started doing some small projects with pallet wood, because it was FREE, and I wasn’t doing anything fancy to sell, I was just doing it for myself and as gifts for family and friends. I’ve gotten pretty good at what I do, and have stockpiles of slats, just waiting for whatever I wanna do next. So, is working with pallets a lot of work? Hell yes. But if you have some time, creativity, and limited resources, it’s definitely worth it.
I do woodworking as a side business so videos using cheaper tools and little space are an interest of mine. Your content is amazing and in a format that is more entertaining than any other on youtube.
That drive by crop dusting scene alone earned my subscription. Pretty much a daily occurance in just about any shop haha!
And that's the way it should be!
I love these videos because as a aspiring woodworker without all the tools, I get to learn work-arounds like the diy track saw and the drill press attachment.
I wouldn't call that a track saw. I would call that a zero clearance cutting fence. A track saw jig would surround the circular saw on both sides. Lots of videos on UA-cam showing how to do both.
Making a zero clearance cutting fence for my circular saw was a great investment of my time.
@@maddogshwa he called it that in the video.
@@michellealexander6230 Just because he Called it that does not make it so. Lots of people don't know the proper name of tools even though they use them everyday.
@@richardrodgers1883 I still find it more helpful than your mansplaining comment. Have the day you deserve.
Every other woodworker on UA-cam while using the most expensive tool on planet: "you can do it too"
John: "I will use the one that you have, coz I love you"
Me: my man, my brother from another mother! (melts in tears of happiness)
I never called it a drive by, but crop dusting. Great video!
Nah crop dusting is more of a the person is behind you while walking move.
Awesome! I’ve enriched my vocabulary (“crop dusting”) and learned that old pallets can be useful!
Thanks I'm so glad your still creating content
When I made you your flag, I had a 12” delta planer and a 4” delta jointer. Along with a 12” delta contractor saw and a DEWALT sander. It is possible to make great things with basic entry level tools.
Now I have a 8” helical head jointer. 18” powermatic planer, a delta Unisaw (from the 1970s) and a mirka sanding system. Little and often makes much our good friend once said.
Jesus, the only thing you were missing was a 6’ Delta operator.
@@CasualClocker I know. But you have to admit. The old Rockwell delta line of tools were very well made and you can find a number of them currently for entry level prices.
A couple things with Morley's listing.
He's in Canada, so his $600 would be ~$450 USD.
He's also in Toronto, which has a cost of living equivalent to NY city
@colletedavis967 you scammers don't get tired?
6:39 😂 you got a sub with that!
this is so accurate. selling already-built furniture items is nearly impossible.
If you're a boomer selling to other boomers, maybe.
Selling handcrafted items in a mass produced industry is always like that. It's like Pagani trying to compete with Ford on price. It's stupid. You can sell your finely crafted pieces like they are art, or you can not sell them. But you aint competing with IKEA on price.
tool set up is so dope....love it👌👌👌
i went through a pallet phase about 5 years ago. I built everything, table, bar, cooler box, you name it. I forgot to seal everything and within a year and a half it was all garbage. live and learn i guess
Why what happened?
@@rockinHurley777 if you don't heavily seal the porous and soft pine it weathers to crap reeeeaaaal quick.
How do you forget to finish EVERYTHING? Lmao
Even when you seal it, it's so soft it dings like crazy... You can bang it up from literally looking at it...
was it all outdoors? or does it not matter with pine?
reason asking: building a (garaged) workbench from (southern yellow) pine. wasnt planning on treating/sealing the wood.
I just happened to come across your channel because I watch Morley. This particular video is the first one of yours I saw. I struggled to watch because I really thought you were unfairly dogging Morley. And I thought you were being a bully. In the end, you redeemed yourself. I didn’t know you were actually praising Morley. You sold me. I am subscribing. Looking forward to more of your videos.
to be fair... 600 bucks for a coffee table is pretty outrageous. That table is worth about... 200 tops.
It's worth maybe a bill, bill and a half at most. It doesn't look like anything special, is the issue. People only drop large bills on stuff that looks unique. This looks like something you can pick up at your local discount furniture shop.
Although I haven’t tried a table as a resale project, I reclaim wood from pallets, and other sources, for reuse as custom kitchen backsplashes, accent walls, and a variety of other projects.
After ensuring all materials are free of fasteners, the boards (which may be oak, pine, fir, ash, poplar, walnut, etc.) are planed to a uniform thickness, and cut to standard widths (varies depending on the board). Once planed, an ugly dirty board often exposes amazing and beautiful grain structure.
There is a lot of labor to get the boards ready, however, installing custom made backsplashes and accent walls made from genuine reclaim easily surpasses the $600 mark for a pallet.
"Let's go find a pallet!" *proceeds to find a pallet made of 200 year old pine heart wood*
My best pallet finds are the tubular steel ones that farm implements are shipped bolted into. They make great bases for welding and work tables. Sometimes I can talk the Tractor Supply store out of one.
$600 at least to me, and apparently most, was too high of a price point. Not everyone is up for negotiations or willing to make offers that are greatly lower than ask. I’d bet the table would sell if the price dropped. A person near me makes pallet wood furniture and while they don’t use metal legs their coffee tables only sell for $100-$250.
Just factor in $40USD/hr and they are -$0.00 net loss. Think of the taxes at 27% too take that chunk. It could only hold 1hr of labor at $100. Just losing money.
Hell yes for the hand planer!! It's the only kind I have actually and it REALLY needs to be cleaned up like yours... do tell how to do that!!
Please and thanks 😊
Entertaining video, and totally worth the watch, especially that little portable drill press! That made it worthwhile for me even beyond the entertainment value. Thanks!! New subscriber, but I'll be going back to watch your previous ones as well. Great work!
you guys are super lucky having a shop like that. I dont even have a shop nor a house, I just living in a appartment, I set up my workbench everyday outside the appartment. I wish I could live in my own house 🙏
I still don’t believe he actually sold it for as much as he did.
to be fair it was 550 canadian so more like $400 US but yeah that still seems high to me
LOVED this video man. Thank you! I am just getting into woodworking now
Me wasting 10s of thousands of dollars to find out I can make custom furniture that doesn’t sell for under $1,000 dollars… 😢😢 kidding. I saw his video before this. For how little he knew, he gave it his all, and impressed me with his hustle.
Your editing is ON POINT! I was chuckling throughout. I look forward to catching up with your entire catalog.
To be honest, I saw Morley’s original video and thought that it may have been sensationalised for UA-cam
Definitely was faux
Yet ANOTHER super video!!! Thank you for all the hard work to make us laugh!
Morley is doing some amazing work!
At charity auctions ppl will pay $45 for a used pencil ... lets keep it real folks, smfh
Thank you for the continued supply of ideas! Will have to try this one out myself 😁✌️
I'd like to see a home tour of Tyler's to see all the builds he's ended up with lol
I can make that happen
John, Thank you for the video I enjoyed it!
Your table ended up looking like it was made from cheap pine... because it was. Morley's pallet was a heavy-duty pallet designed to carry greater weight. Because of that, the wood he used was harder, had a tighter grain, and just plain looked better. Even with the same tools and same skills, Morley's table was going to end up looking better.
Loved the new planer technique!
The thing is you can spend 10 minutes looking at furniture in a donation store, or hand-me-down store, or cheaper online listings, or such. You'll see tens of couches, tables, workbenches, stools, chairs, cabinets, all kinds of hand-made stuff, just like that table but missing a liquid glaze over the top usually. Something like the table shown here would be sold for under $100 but over $30 anywhere I've seen. That's because you'll usually see another 5 short tables right next to it for $5-15 for example. Selling it to a person 1 to 1 like you tried to was the best option for a better payout, but most people already have a coffee table or look for a cheap simple one. Have to find a niche looking room for it to match in or perhaps pair it with a larger table of the same materials.
Great project! Love this video man. Thank you!
Long shot here, but... isn't the table overpriced AF at 600 doll-hairs?
Resent the implication that an R4512 is a “beginner tool”. I’ve had one for 9 years now and - to be fair - I upgraded the fence to a Biessemeyer style fence because the factory fence was crap, but it’s a great saw! Powerful, quick startup when wired to 220 and with a good blade on it it cuts fantastic. I did have a bit of trunnion trouble but I fixed that easily myself. Not gonna say it’s as good as a Powermatic or a Sawstop but I am far from a beginner and I am not held back by my table saw very often.
I’d upgrade if I had tons of cash rolling around but for the price point it’s a fantastic saw in the hands of someone who knows how to tune their machine.
Anyone can say they got this much for a small table, I just watched his most recent one and he made a desk and settled on 1000 dollars but says the guy liked it so much he paid him 1200 for it. Not really believing that one, specially since he broke a foot off while taking it up to the guys apartment. Your table was nice but a 200 dollar price tag is more realistic.
Exactly, fake videos
What's that giant machine Onwood 8124RK machine behind you when you are applying finish to the table? A wide belt sander with a window? Hope to see a video about it soon.
Selling pallet tables seems to be harder than it seems. Im struggling, I might need to refinish mine and paint or stain it.. You and Morley inspired my pallet table build, It would be soooo awesome if you checked my build video out!!
Your giving in to the haters, I'm so sorry you are awesomely talented. Awesome job. Also I'm a random onlooker as we just got a few free pine amazing looking pallets, and I was looking for projects this is well beyond my skill level but still watched it though :).
As a delivery driver, I'm always mystified people making things out of pallet wood. Most pallets I move are nasty, greasy things.
They are full of toxic chemicals. This pallet making furnisher needs to stop.
I could definitely see myself buying a table like that for $150, knowing that it it’s basically just glue and pallet pine I would probably buy it for $70
thank you for sharing the great idea, i will recycle the old pallets that i have prepared in the warehouse and will make a handmade one without using any electrical equipment. good luck!
the «Pine, pine, pine» seaguls KILLED me hahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
I love how honest he is. Makes his content 10x more entertaining!
He turned one into $1200 apparently! Fair play! Good vid John
it was so easy for this guy. Morley put a lot of heart and soul into his tables and he's learning in front of us. It's nice.
I literally just commented on the guy you're making a response to xD saying I could do it in half the time, I didn't mention without big shop tools xD but yeah... I love your take on this. Kept it simple, kept it easy, you know what you're doing
That arch looks almost perfect template for the transmission hump in the rear seat for a truck box might need to be a little taller but I wish I would have thought abt that when making my box
The morale of the story actually inspires me!... Thanks for showing us...
That's a really nice table! YAY!!!! TYLER!!!!!!
Just found your channel I love it. I like that you make projects approachable to the novice
I love it too. And you get to be creative and use something that will last a little longer!
If I remember right, he had one of the hardwood pallets for his project. Also location makes a huge different in market values.
I saw this table on your instagram and was so confused. I was like “that’s pine. What’s going on?” You made me question my wood knowledge. I was thinking ‘maybe it’s not pine. Maybe it’s some fancy species I don’t yet know about.’ I was seriously so confused. 😂😂😂
I’m such a newbie. What all tools are those. I bought a wood lathe and got into wood working. I think doing stuff like this would be fun too
The fact it didn't sell on Marketplace makes this believable.. this is so accurate. selling already-built furniture items is nearly impossible..
just stumbled across your video and you crack me up, I just subscribed because your work is awesome and your videoing sarcasm is hysterical.
Tyler takes table home next minute checks inbox and sells table the same day 😂
Hey John, if or when you break down another pallet. If you have a small car jack, use it between the boards on the pallet it makes it a lot easier to disassemble. Anyhow thanks for another great one bro.. take care, and happy holidays.
Great video. I always enjoy watching someone who really knows what they’re doing. I’m just now starting to look at planers and was looking at that DeWalt planer a few days ago, never knowing that something like that other planer you have even existed. Had to go look it up! Of course, NOW I want it, but I don’t even know why. LOL I’m guessing it’s like the difference between driving an old VW bug and a Mercedes.
I enjoy watching videos of people who know what they are doing, but I still come here sometimes.
The instagram comment that said “How many coffees can it hold?” Made me spit my coffee out laughing hahaha
Pallets are pretty good if you can get them for cheap. My dad built me a sturdy "play" house /house for my bunny when i was a kid (30 years ago, i would guess). It was more the focus of the bunny and the space for me inside was for hay bales and all the things I needed for my bunny. He did it right. After I grew up and didn't go to this place where he built it, it's just about the only structure still around from that time. They sawed it off it's foundation too to give it a better place on the grounds. They must've used a crane or something cos it's not that small. They put all sorts of crappy paint on it over the years, but I will always remember it as it was. Black tar paint and a white door and accents. It wasn't girly, cos daddy's girl was a tomboy. It was practical and just good. The door never stuck but kept the wind out. All that good stuff. He was a metal worker by profession, working on ships. If I tell my dad I am proud of him, the old man will tear up. :)
Edit: btw, not playing favourites. I love the smell of wood being worked and metal being worked.
What makes it expensive is the creativity and craftsmanship that goes into making it.
1st Great table for personal use. 2nd that was not scrap. Palet was still fine and could be used ifor years again. 3rd Legs are badass! Great content.
I love it!!!! Greetings from The Netherlands!!!
I Love These Videos ✌🏻🐉
Great video, Morley is a friend of mine I've known for a few years now and he does incredible work and his way of approaching projects is stellar. Really glad you appreciated his work.
he didn't appreciate morley work, he is making fun off him, he is a pro, you don't see that ?
@Ricardo A. Marconi what i saw was that he admitted he got out done in the the end, and either way Morley made a great table in the end.
@@MakerCuisine i'm sorry but he din't make a great table
@Ricardo A. Marconi your entitled to your opinion, i feel that that opinion is wrong and he did make a great table. And of that is the way you feel show me one that you've made thats better.
@@MakerCuisine sure that's my opinion and i don't have to prove anything to you !!!