Surface Grinder Restoration || INHERITANCE MACHINING
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Join me in the machine shop for the surface grinder restoration. This is a precision surface grinding machine that I inherited from my grandfather. It is an industrial machine tool designed for the sole purpose of making parts extremely flat. So why on earth would a hobby machinist require such a specialized piece of equipment in his manual machine shop. Well, because it’s cool of course! This surface grinder includes a magnetic chuck, a flood coolant system, and a dust collection system. All of which are a complete mess. And there are even some broken bits in the mix. So I’ll be unleashing my arsenal of rust removal techniques. Including, but not limited to, the sandblasting cabinet, scotch brite pads, evapo rust, and more. Once everything is cleaned up, repaired, and reassembled I’ll go through the process of dialing in this machine. This includes leveling with a precision level, grinding wheel dressing, grinding wheel balancing and resurfacing the magnetic chuck.
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0:00 Intro
1:06 Teardown
3:27 Oil System Problems
4:50 Table and Saddle
6:54 Oil System Repair
8:00 Reassembly
8:59 Leveling
10:09 Coolant and Dust Collection
12:25 Wheel Dressing and Balancing
14:27 Mag Chuck Resurfacing
15:49 Revisiting Collet Blocks
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Thanks for watching! I've put off leveling and aligning the lathe for long enough, and now I can't avoid it. Stay tuned for that adventure on Friday April 1st at 10am Eastern. (for real) And who knows, I might actually get to finish the collet blocks!
Maybe you lathe "problem" isn't the tailstock but the leveling (I don't know how you did it, maybe watch the video from "this old tony" about lathe leveling if you didn't already)
@@maximelenfer6280 lol the problem is I haven't leveled it at all yet!
@@InheritanceMachining lol, Yea that'll do it. Just throwing a framing level in my lathe was a huge difference. And I was actually SHOCKED how close it was when my brother barrowed a "Very Expensive" machinery level that he uses to set up large machines at his place of employment. It was so close he thought he must of not calibrated it correctly. However when we check it on my Index 745, it proved it was. But leveling the Wells Index 745 was a nightmare. Thats the ONLY thing (leveling system) on that mill that I think they could have engineered better.
I vote you keep the "Side Project Counter" as a must in each published video!! Great work on the videos and keep em' coming!
It might have to make a comeback :D thanks again!
@@InheritanceMachining I suggest a counter from the beginning!
@@tkeay37 I'm going to run out of room!
@@tkeay37 , Me, too!
Find this comment after watching all his recent videos is very fun
In the UK, almost every machine shop has in the corner a 1960s jones and shipman 540 surface grinder. Be glad you don’t have one of them, everything on it is hydraulic, including the x, y & z auto feeds. They’re actually a pain to service in the UK because they’re all imperial threads but a marvel of engineering none the less.
I know there is one very proud man watching his grand-son restore and use all of his old tools!
Thank you 🙏
I know nothing about machining and I just happened to stumble onto this channel. But now I am obsessed, this is so satisfying to watch!
I've been doing it since highschool. These videos are like crack if you know your stuff.
Love your channel, you are going to kill it when more people find it. Like how you do a COMPLETE task instead of some others who drag out something like a vise handle project into 10 episodes. Or, they do scraping every other week. Keep it up!
Haha! Much appreciated! I'm sure I'll have some big projects that simply aren't reasonable for a single video. But who knows, Ca Lem magically crams a custom 6 jaw chuck into a one episode.
@@InheritanceMachining We all know Ca Lem is a wizard and isn’t bound by spacetime like us mere mortals. Looking forward to the lathe leveling episode!
You must be referring to Keith Rucker.
@@mayshack Keith is okay, just keep the big ball peen hammers out of his reach 😁
@@rickpalechuk4411 I work with a guy that makes me feel uneasy anytime I see him grab a hammer
Grandpa would be proud. I’m very fascinated with the older generation’s technology. Like all of our grandpa’s words and phrases like, “They just don’t make ‘em like that anymore” are never more truer than now. Great repair. Cheers
Thank you! I definitely share that sentiment. Some of the solutions people came up with that were completely mechanical astound me.
I am enamored of your website. My dad had a shop in our basement we were never welcome in, so my brother and I lived in the shop until he gave up and told us leave our fingers where God put them. At 10 years old, he finally gave me shop lessons and an ice cream cone to my brother. He was 11 months younger than me, and Mommy always liked him best. I didn’t care as long as I got the bandsaw and the drill press, it was an even trade as far as I was concerned. I really don’t know which program I like best between you and “This old Tony”, both of you touch all of my memory moments.
My grandpa was T&D for ford too, I chose the millwright path for the blue oval. Always cool watching the finesse work get done
Love the side project count. It's a good day in the shop when you can keep them from overwhelming the main project(s). But then again any day in the shop is a good day!
I had the assemble my own small machine shop but the wood shop has all my dad's equipment. He's been gone awhile, but he's with me in the shop when I'm working.
16:07
You’re too funny!
It reminds my struggles with myself, when everything IS working fine, but I still have to squeeze that last drop of precision where there ain’t!!!
Love your videos!
Your grandfather sure was big on Enco! I remember seeing and reading their catalogs at work when I was an apprentice in the late 70's...
Evaporust, paper towels and Saran-wrap!! This is a gem of an idea!!
Oh man. Who else misses Enco. I know I do.
Honestly, I think this is the best channel on UA-cam…
thank you 🙏
Love the videos, it's like machinist therapy. And that surface grinder is in really mint condition
Thank you! Yeah this is definitely the "freshest" machine in the shop
@@InheritanceMachining One thing worth knowing about surface grinding (which you probably already knew but others reading this might not): for best finish and flatness, the trick is to use relatively deep (z axis) "cut" increments and relatively modest (y axis) "feed" increments. This is so the majority of the wear to the wheel occurs at the corner which first encounters the work. If your depth increments are too fine, the wear is progressively spread over most of the width, meaning the work is not ground so flat, and because each granule is not being aggressively dislodged when it gets blunt, the wheel quickly gets less and less "sharp" and less free cutting. Then the wheel loads up (as it did after your little woops at the outset due to the bump stop) and burns the work or otherwise gives a poor result.
Also use fairly aggressive y axis feed when dressing the stone for stock removal. And not TOO fine even for finish grinding. You don't want to glaze the wheel (same reason as above.)
Use a soft stone to grind hard material (counter intuitive). A hard stone will quickly load up, because it does not "self sharpen" (as above) quickly enough.
@@Gottenhimfella This is really great information. Thank you! I seem to remember Adam the Machinist releasing a video a while back talking about that method. He's got a lot of great SG related content, actually.
@@InheritanceMachining Thanks for that. I only discovered him recently, (not to be confused with Adam A-bomb!) and I really rate him as an expert in his field. I'll check out his stuff further, AND yours (which I also only just came across). What I have seen from you has been fantastic - you are one of the clearest thinkers/ communicators I have come across on UA-cam on any topic. And when it comes to over-engineering: like you, I'm inclined to apply the "Liberace" principle: too much of a good thing is precisely the right amount.
This channel reminds me of rainfall projects. Very calming voice.
As a toolmakers apprentice, I've been learning a lot about surface grinding. And theres a few things I'd like to mention.
First thing is my journeyman told me to let the spindle run for a good 15 - 20 minutes before doing any grinding. This allows it to warm up to operating temperature before any actual grinding is done. And so that nothing changes when you're in the middle of a pass on your part.
The second thing is, please, use your dust collector as much as possible! In the shop we have a central dust processor hooked into all the machines, which makes it fairly quiet. A stand alone unit like yours will make a racket, and it might start driving you crazy, but your lungs will thank you for keeping it on.
This guy is living the life....
That was enjoyable to watch. Thanks
You bet!
Restoration with love and precision but not overdosed like cleaning each atom of each part. That is what I love about your videos. And no crappy kidding backgroundmusic of course. Keep it up! Greetings from Germany, Sven
Haha time simply wouldn't allow that level of cleaning. Any it would be a waste anyway. Thanks for the support!
You have already joined the ranks of abom, tot and uncle fracker himself ave
Wow! That is such a compliment. Thank you!!
Good job👌👌👍👍
I appreciate your nonlinear historiography. It gives a good sense of how things are connected.
Gotta make sense of this chaos somehow! haha
So I just recently found your channel, and am working my way through your videos from the beginning. Thoroughly enjoying seeing an engineer's methodical approach towards dealing with these types of projects. I'm not an engineer, but over-time I hope to acquire some of the skills you display, for use in my hobbies. Thanks for sharing!
I always get a kick out of the usage of "metric" instead of "standardized international units" and seeing a boutifull old machine restored. :)
Atta-boy, Getting er done one side job at a time. Enjoying your journey
It's the only way I know how!
The Side Project is definitely an art form.
So glad I found your channel. I'm a machine repair apprentice at Ford in the Rouge and your videos helped me out alot.
I've been waiting.
Kid is taking a nap. I have a cup of black coffee and a cinnamon roll. Let's go!
Haha! I can relate!! Thanks for watching!
Amazing video!
I keep thinking "Heirloom Machining" is a better, more poetic name for this channel 😊
Very cool still learning again Thanks
Following this journey for sure . Nice tooling bro . Thanks for sharing
Welcome!
You Sir, in the most honourable sense of the phrase, are a scholar and a gentleman. Delighted to see a fellow Engineer just lean into his machining and tinkering roots. Good on you, good for you, best of luck with the shop and so looking forward to watching more of the videos. Each and every one of them is such a gem so far 🙏🏾
Wow, thank you! I really appreciate that!
You are so lucky with your background! Good luck!
I think you Grandfather would be very proud.
Thank you!
Happy to have found your channel, i've always got room for more machining & fabricating!
Welcome aboard!
Well done from a fellow ME.
Thanks!
I'm loving the calm and consistent narration in the video. I just acquired a Reid 618 3-axis automatic surface grinder for my garage and there is one subtle thing I was informed of and I wanted to bring this to your attention if you're not aware of it already. The magnetic chuck to table interface should be ground completely flat on both surfaces when re-installing the magnetic chuck. If there is a bow or gap under the magnetic chuck the chuck can actually warp slightly when the magnet is energized. It's recommended to grind the surface of the table flat by itself and then clamp the magnetic chuck upside-down and grind the bottom surface of the chuck without energizing the magnet. Once that is done then you can reposition the chuck back onto the table and re-grind the topside as normal. Note that when clamping the magnetic chuck to the table the left clamp should be tightened down while the right clamp should be just snug, this should allow the magnetic chuck to slide across the table under thermal expansion instead of bowing up in the middle.
I wish you good luck in your inheritance and I'm jealous of that bandsaw you have there, the table/throat clearance is huge for a small shop.
Thanks, Kyle! Some of these points were brought up to me so I will be revisiting before the next high precision requiring project. Also the point about the clamps is a new one but totally makes sense. Thanks for the info and support
Love your videos. Have binged them all in a couple weeks. Please keep it up!
Haven't used a surface grinder in a few years since changing jobs and this is making me miss it
Love your series. Truly enjoy watching you explore your inheritance and making the old new again.
Much appreciated!
I loved working on the surface grinder it was so well cared for as we had contracts with MoD, and the nuclear industry. It would grind to within 0.00012" over a 300mm square. You are so methodical it makes watching you very pleasing, even with the side projects. Your surface grinder looks very good.
Loved this!! Fantastic attention to detail
Another really nice video. Thanks!
No, thank you!
You are quite good at this.
That's amazing. Perfect content ❤
I never knew either of My Grandpas. He left an awesome inheritance. I wish I'd been introduced to machining and engineering young
Love your comment about using your tools to make more tools. Reminds me of when I was learning Basic Machining. We make the tools that we needed for the next project. Like 1X2X3 blocks and then our step clamps. Love the channel. Keep up the great work.
Sounds about right. If I'm not restoring the tool I need, I''m making it! haha! Thanks for the support!
Saturating paper towels with evaporust to cover large areas with small amounts of liquid is a fantastic idea! Can't believe I didn't think of that!
nice job.....
Thanks for taking the time to make the video and share it
My pleasure. Thank you!
Love your content, dont change the way you do these videos! Awesome content, as a fellow machinist its heart warming to see you restore these machines and bring them back to life 😊 Best regards from Finland 🇫🇮
Thank you very much! We'll keep them coming!
I picked up a surface grinder for my home shop last year. I've been hesitant to take it apart, but I'm sure it needs work. This video has inspired me to go for it. Thanks!
Your voice and pace is quite relaxing!
Thank you!
Surface grinders are in a special class of machines that fascinate me, just like jig borers and micro-milling machines. The surface you achieved on the mag chuck is beautiful! Looking forward to seeing the lathe get leveled and trammed. Thanks much for your efforts to share your experience with us.
Much appreciated, Bruce! Thanks again for the support
Fantastic pacing, music and style in your videos. Im 2 down and looking forward to bingeing the rest of them.
Wonderful seeing you restore theese machines. Hope that you enjoy making this content, would love to see more in the same style in the future!
Thank you so much! I do love making these videos and have no plans to stop
I work in a massive machine shop and we have 3 of the same machine down to ever detail. It cool to see another
I am sincerely hoping that you someday get to do a side project for a side project for a side project. Would be a glorious day. After all, a machine shop is just a set of tools to make tools for a machine shop.
You know it! Though what would really be amazing is to find a circle of side project dependencies. None of which I can start until one of the others is completed. It will be quite the conundrum!
i showed up for the pen bit stayed for the craftsmanship
So therapeutic. Broadcast quality 👌👏👏👍😀
All hail grandpa I sure would like to have met the man
Hi Brandon,
I enjoyed the video. You are doing a great job. Surface grinding can be a bit tricky. Proper wheel selection and wheel truing /dressing are very important for success. Traversing slow or fast while dressing will give different results. Finding the sweet spot is important for success. Selecting the right wheel for the job at hand is very important. You have different company brands, grit size and types, bonding hardness A-Z, and wheel diameter all make a big difference. Heat build up in the part will be one of the biggest challenges to overcome and all the above affects this.
Steve
Thanks, Steve! I suspected there would be a great deal of nuance to grinding. The little bit of research I did on coolant had me lost in the weeds, so decided to just start with what I have. Same goes for the wheel selection. I'm sure as my needs become more specialized I will be branching out. Probably not too distant in the future!
Love the channel bro, prime asmr content 4 me.
😎 Thanks, man
Love watching your channel, learning alot about machinery that has always fascinated me.
Loving the videos. Been binge watching all weekend after hearing about it from Jimmy Diresta's shout out on Making It. I love that you show your missteps but also the depth of knowledge that you already appear to possess about all of the machines. Keep it up...I'm almost inspired to do a little deeper cleaning on some of my machines...my lathes could both use a deep clean like what you have done as well.
😮 well that just made my day! Welcome to the channel and thanks for letting me know about the shoutout!
Ran surface grinders for years , been over 10 now but remember it well. Ours was a mattison 12 × 48 chuck , made a lot of money with it
@3:50 literally said in awe out loud.. DUDE
Thoroughly enjoying following your progress making the machines your own.
I appreciate that! Thank you!
I am so glad I found your channel. Just the sort of videos and content I love.
Welcome!
Great informative video love the video quality and the seamless transitions between scenes. That surface grinder looks great now and nice job setting it up. Definitely will be subscribing and watching all your other videos.
Thank you so much!
you inherited so many machines from your grandpa! you have a sandblasting cabinet too?
in the next time i watch another one of your videos, wonderful videos by the way,
you're gonna be like:
ah this looks like a perfect job for my flippin industrial forge
Ah, good old Turcite ways, I recently learned about its use on machine ways either as the ways or as a coating for an old sloppy set of ways by cleaning and applying a release agent to the sliding side and pumping it in through the grease fittings.
That's what I was thinking these are. Trying to find out if they are original from the manufacturer, or if there were a retrofit.
Another outstanding video!
I used one of these in my apprenticeship to be a tool and die maker. It was really awesome to see it cleaned up.
I like the way you make your videos. Nice job and keep it up!
It has definitely leveled up my capabilities in this shop. Thank you!
Perfect I was really hoping for a good video to watch while I work today
Great video and well filmed thanks for sharing👍
Thanks!
I have an Enco surface grinder which I’ve restored. This video was really helpful! Thanks!
That’s great! Glad I could help!
I LOVE your channel. I'm so happy that you've decided to share this process with the world, because it's a joy to see you work on these machines.
There's so much love in the way you work with those tools. Not just for the tools themselves, but also for the history they have.
You've also knocked the style of filming out of the park. I can clearly see that you've taken some inspiration from other makers, but I know from experience that this style of filming is not as easy to get right as it might look.
I also like the balance you find between explaining what you do and letting the footage speak for itself.
I could go on with the compliments, but in the end I just wanted to say that your videos your videos are great and that I'm excited for what's to come.
I really appreciate you saying all that, Tobias! I was really hoping to bring something a little different with my channel. And find a niche that hasn't been explored yet. I have a pretty lengthy background in hobby photography so have been trying to being my style from that into the filming. Thanks so much for the support!
Love your videos, keep it up! You are inspiring me to clean up my old machining equipment. I use my shop for side work at night, and it’s hard to find time to clean the machines. I might have to take some time off for some long overdue deep cleaning and maintenance.
I can say it's so pleasing to work on a clean machine. Good luck! Thanks!
Just binged your entire channel, currently studying engineering after spending time in machine shops all of highschool. No one in my family has a history of engineering nor machining though! Haha I love the work, thank you for sharing
Gotta start somewhere! Thanks for following along!
Beautiful video.
Thank you!
your videos, shop, style, and projects are all wonderful, helpful and fun to watch, thanks!
My pleasure! Thank you!
So happy your channel popped in my feed. I'm a big machining enthusiast and watched several of your videos so far and it didn't take me long to subscribe.
Looking forward to the lathe leveling.
Welcome aboard!
I started working at a machine shop about six months ago with a baseline knowledge of nothing in the trade, and now half a year later it feels pretty amazing to look back and see how much I've learned. As a brand new machinist, finding an informative and well shot channel like yours is inspiring, and there's a part of me that wishes you started this journey half a year ago lol. But I'm glad I stumbled upon your content now, allowing me to see a more seasoned tradesman at work. It's also great to see you bringing these old beautiful machines back to life. I look forward to many more of your videos, and hope to pick up some more knowledge from your content. Keep up the good work :)
I really appreciate that! Though I wouldn't consider myself seasoned by any measure. I've forgotten most of what I used to know. And there is so much more beyond that. I'm sure you know what I mean. Thanks again!
Long story short better born in a family with a machinist grandpa.
To surface the mag plate, use the smallest coarse wheel you can without hitting the spindle head onto the plate. This keeps the heat down and reduces out of balance issues. Dress a hollow in the center (ish) of the wheel. Do not turn off the spindle. Cover the top of the mag plate with blue ink. Find the high spot on the plate, touch off the wheel there to start. Use coolant to keep the mag plate at a constant temp. Feed into the work no more than .0005" and always down feed from the same side. Meaning take a pass and do the spark out back. In and out on this grinder will float a tad so keep the in out feed motion smooth and constant. Make in and out passes no more than the 2 touching parts of the wheel width.
Truly never ending, the hobby that keeps on giving!
Thanks for sharing,
Cheers
Exactly! Thanks!
@@InheritanceMachining I have a little Atlas 618 l'm about to restore which could use some grinding work. I'm in the central Alberta area.
Awesome video
Thanks!
There’s a lot you can do with a small surface grinder beyond getting things flat. You can use it with a square angle plate to square up blocks. You can use it with a sine plate to grind precise angles. This looks like a good one. Definitely use dust collection and coolant. And I would recommend using a mask
"Oh, this machine was made in 1998 so it's pretty new!" ... God, I'm getting old.
revisiting this video i felt i need to point out to those watching that might think the surface grinders a non-essential in a hobby shop..
the three core machines in any machine shop holding tenth tolerances are
lathe, mill, surface grinder,
with these three machines the only limitations are skill set and work envelope.
the lathe is for cylindrical
the mill is for square
the grinder is for flat.
Lift the coolant res off the floor on 2 blocks. That way the coolant is at room temp and not floor temp which is generally cooler. Will give better results. Thanks for another great video. Your journey is very special and I appreciate you sharing it.
Thanks for the tip and support!
love those side projects . very nice work .
There are never a shortage of side projects. Thanks!
Thanks for another great video. Have a good one.
Thank you!
balancing systems are pricey!
great stuff that your grandpa had one. not suprising of course, what with him being a tool and die maker.
Great videos man! Surprising to see such a young channel producing such high quality and entertaining videos.
Thank you! My wife and I have a little bit of a back ground in photography and film making. So we're somewhat hitting the ground running.
Loving this series 💗 The videography, editing, narration and concise scripted content is truly inspiring. I was an indentured engineering apprentice in the ‘60’s. It took about a year of controlled indoctrination to impart a similar amount knowledge with less understanding at that time. That was the style of the gnarly old engineers that acted as tutors at the time. Unfortunately the engineering industry in the UK was not only economically in decline at the time but it was also socially derided so I dropped out early (age 20) and went into ‘Data Processing’ as it was then called.
I always hankered after a machine shop and this series reawakens that dream. Too late now.
Thank you so much for this gift of education, entertainment and nostalgia.
Loving your videos so far, I enjoy watching your progress. One trick i have used to get stubborn surface rust off, is to use scotchbrite pads with a angle grinder, removes it quickly and easily.
I think i saw people doing this on bench grinders, but I like the mobility of the angle grinder. I'll have to give that a try! Thanks for the support!
Best channel i got on youtube, glad you share this material. Looking forward to your projects.
Wow! That's very kind of you!
Every side project is a step towards becoming a better machinist. I miss working at a small tool and die shop. Just not the 16 hour days when it was crunch time for a large project.
Exactly! I look at every little side project, restoration, or whatever else as all part of the fun. I've sensed some of that pressure making some of these video already