Are sugar substitutes dangerous?
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This clip is from episode 300 ‒ Special episode: Peter on exercise, fasting, nutrition, stem cells, geroprotective drugs, & more.
In this clip, they discuss:
- What doses of sugar substitutes are toxic to humans?
- Do sugar substitutes cause cancer?
- What are the safest sugar substitutes?
- And more
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"We gave rats 30 grams of saccharin every hour for 4 months straight and it didn't end well for the rat." Wow, really? Who would imagine.
If you inject enough water directly into your veins you will die, so naturally water bad don't drink it
If using artificial sweeteners allows you to maintain a healthier body fat level by removing sugar then the benefits of that outweigh the drawbacks of artificial sweeteners.
In some cases yes. But there is always the drawback of the longer term effects such as risks to the gut microbiome equilibrium
Yes, on balance, it’s better not to consume sugar substitutes at all, but if the alternative is obesity and diabetes due to too much sugar consumption, then they are still the lesser of two evils!
Xylitol is interesting.. the rest of them seem like junk...
Sugar substitutes have been a key for me losing 15kg over the last 2 years. I use it for my cooking and make sweet sauces to make my foods much more palatable.
Now that you have lost the weight, take the next step in fixing the damage these substitutes do.
@@dronepocket325 what damage?
I lost 15 kg over the last one year by switching to the carnivore diet.
I switched from putting sugar in my coffee to putting milk in my coffee.
All the doctors in the carnivore diet UA-cam videos say to take the carnivore challenge and try it yourself so I took the challenge and I found out that they were right. A low-carb diet really does work. But don't believe me try it yourself.
Artificial sweeteners initiate an insulin reaction though, because your brain thinks sugar is coming. May not be a good thing long term.
Breathing the air in most places has an astronomically higher risk to your health, but you don't see nearly as many people talking about that as you see talking about the 0.1% relative risk increase for some esoteric subpopulation that _may_ result from an unrealistic amount of artificial sweetener intake
Seriously, Dr Peter Attia is fantastic! Even though I don’t consume sugar substitute, he’s got my heart when used the Tylenol analogy! Just perfect!
Anybody out there also reached the point where you have to reintroduce sugar as a dosed pre-workout so as to continue adding work capacity and intensity on an otherwise relatively clean diet?
Dr. Attia, thanks so much for your wonderful videos. 💕💕
I’ve been using pure powdered mono fruit. My doctor asked me to switch to that from stevia. I only use it in my tea in the morning. I hope he says it’s ok!
Would you please share the reason your doc asked you to switch from stevia to monk fruit? In case it helps us stevia consumers.
Thank you sir.
I have no problem with sweetners. I have a problem with how sweet they make these beverages. Seriously it starts feeling gross if you drink soda after a month of abstaining
Involuntarily abstinence?
Peter, I wish someone would have collected your interviews and put it on paper and make it to books. There is a lot information lost when listening, with a book, you could access the information more conveniently and its easier to comprehend the dense information 😊 please 🥺😅
He’s got a book titled ‘Outlive’ - I expect much of what he says in interviews is in it, though I haven’t read it myself.
Muscle and tendon recovery time after exercise and age would love to hear Peter talk about? Experts say muscle recovery takes 3-5 days (healthy individuals)after Hit workout. Now Tendons take 7-10 days for recovery after HIT workout. How true is this?
At this point, everything is going to kill us. Nothing more dangerous than stress though. So enjoy your Diet Coke and chill the hell out.
Exactly
Are we talking about the usual types or plant based, such as Monk fruit sweetener?
I was surprised to find out you can buy xylitol in a bag like table sugar. I use it in my tea sometimes and the taste is pretty good. Crazy that it may benefit my teeth, because it's so similar to table sugar.
So how is Sucralose? You mentioned its in the protein powders but failed to give an opinion or at least rank it together with the others? Is it better or woese (metabolically) than xylitol, erythritol, allulose?
Not enough data on them.
allulose and erythritol are pretty worthless. they are not very sweet at all.
@@sukkeri I find it depends on the other ingredients and also the temperature of the food you're mixing into... Erythritol for example goes better in cold shakes (than coffee for example where xylitol or stevia do a better job)... I'm not as familiar with allulose myself (although I've used it and find it somewhat similar to erythritol)
So a little with my two cups of coffee every morning is basically ok ❤🎉😊
use truvia packets ( made from stevia leaf. ) Have not used sugar for years! No gut problems for me with it.
What do you think about the latest study on neotame?
I recently quit drinking diet soda, which where I live, contains aspartame and ace-k, and it has made a world of difference in terms of sleep and energy. Something just ain’t right with that stuff.
you cut your caffeine ?
I think this could be due to the effects of the caffeine. I also noticed an increase in my eczema there is definitely an inflammation that occurs.
This is why anecdote isn't valuable... The stuff is perfectly fine but as the others have pointed out, there are other factors changing, namely caffeine...
Could def be the caffeine, but still drinking tea and coffee, and still felt better. Diet soda isn’t healthy at the end of the day.
@@AirPowereddiet soda is mostly neutral and if you want to drink something sweet it is preferred option to sugar drink. You just reduced your caffeine intake, that’s the only thing which changed and makes sense.
I use monk fruit ☺️
I'm not going to give up decent-tasting sweetness. It's either the good artificial sweeteners (aspartame and sucralose) or sugar. And sugar has more toxicity than aspartame.
Aspartame is definitely not a good option. Perhaps choose more wisely: Xylitol, erythritol or allulose tend to show little to no adverse effects...
@@joviankaz Allulose makes me feel sick when I eat too much of it, and stings my throat like fructose. Erythritol leaves an unpleasant aftertaste in my mouth for hours and has been linked to excessive blood clotting. Meanwhile aspartame doesn't make me noticeably sick and tastes great.
"linked to" articles tend to misrepresent the cause and effect - perhaps (most likely) erythritol has been linked to blood clotting because the body produces it DUE to the clotting (or other cause)...
Aspartame is definitely a poor choice if you want a healthy microbiome (gut) & that doesn't tend to show up immediately (until too late or perhaps late enough to cause severe discomfort in gut health related symptoms)
That taste-the sweetness-causes havoc in your body starting with poor gut health. Don’t use anything that makes things ‘sweet’
@@joviankaz the non-nutritive sweetener that has the best data connecting it to gut microbiome disruption is stevia, yet idiots always recommend it because it's "natural." "Microbiome" is the latest buzzword people mindlessly use to justify the biases they already had, like "detox."
The last time I had to take broad-spectrum antibiotics, my gut health noticeably improved for a few weeks. So I don't think there's much going right for me for aspartame to harm even if that were a real risk (which I frankly doubt).
My main concern is to what extent can sugar substitutes affect gut microbiome, It is very hard for any clinical study to assess that
Absent any clear benefit for non-nutritive sweeteners, I'm sticking with plain water. For protein shakes, I get the unflavored stuff and flavor it myself. Usually, I just blend it with a small amount of fresh fruit. Once you switch to unsweetened foods, the sucralose laden stuff just tastes gross.
Why are you doing this to yourself? Not everything you consume needs to be “beneficial”. By the way in the context of someone trying to loose weight blending the protein with fruit is not that great of an option unless you blend it with strawberries or something like that. Unflavoured protein is awful in taste. The point of artificial sweeteners is to enjoy sweet things but not risk getting weight because unlike sugar, they have no calories. That’s it. If you don’t like sweet stuff, good for you, I like to enjoy every once in a while.
@@retwertsUnflavoured protein goes really well with coffee and oat "milk" and flavoured protein is very, very sweet for those that don't sweeten food or beverages. I don't think you should judge what others find pleasant.
@@mestrinimaster3602 listen, if you like disgusting protein, that’s fine with me. Some people like that taste of sh*t, I guess
absent clear benefit? the products taste fantastic and have no calories.
@@sukkeri I'm pre-diabetic, so I'm looking at long term metabolic health. The problem with non-nutritive sweeteners is that your pancreas and liver don't know they aren't sugar. Most sweeteners have a mix of positive and negative health effects, and I'm not persuaded that on balance they're benign. Also, sucralose tastes disgustingly sweet. I genuinely prefer things that are only minimally sweet. When I was a kid, I preferred Cheerios to fruit loops. Sometimes protein powders make sense if I'm out for a long bike ride, but most of the time, if I feel a need for supplemental protein, I just eat a tin of mackerel. Whole food with some omega-3s.
We can’t lump them all together. Stevia isn’t aspartame which isn’t monk fruit.
Some have studies showing positive outcomes. Aspertane is not one of those.
I’d like to see a big study on all of them.
What do you mean “positive outcome”? Most generally have neutral effect on health and in general if you drink sugared drinks if you switch to artificially sweetened drinks it would have a positive effect because you would reduce your calories. Of course you don’t have to drink sweet drinks but if you can’t resist it’s better to be with artificial sweeteners. It’s not really that complicated.
Anyone know which protein powder he uses ?
I consume all of the different sugar subs , and i have for years, and im perfectly fine. But im healthy to begin with.
Allulose!
It has all the loses!
@@nattyfatty6.0 what are you saying?
how can you talk about artificial or substitute sugars without being VERY specific?
each one is completely different!
Can i use stevia???
I dont eat them.
Any thoughts on monk fruit extract?
I heard the theory that even artificial sweeteners can have an impact on insulin despite no impact on blood sugar...
only sucralose has shown to have an insulin response….stevia , allulose, etc none at all
Pretty sure your brain thinks you’re eating sweets and acts accordingly, but with no need to break down the sugar as it doesn’t exist. Probably only an issue in diabetics.
Nope
@@j.rob.5943 Here's an article that can corroborate what I said above - www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7014832/
and dr... it's NOT what YOU do or eat...not what you put in your coffee...the question was actually are they good or not good?
boy... You're really contributing to the dialog around this subject
@@derekcraig3617 Yeah, he is. _Boy_
@@derekcraig3617 i wasn't supposed to be. i was the INTENDED AUDIENCE, the group supposedly to BE INFORMED.
the dr was the source.
and i am expecting better from him than this video....he did a rather poor sugar informational video here.
@@paulpellico3797 he basically explained something informed viewers have known for well over decade at this point - artificial sweeteners are mostly neutral to health and the few studies linking them to cancer are not reliable at best and absolutely useless at worst. The only question which is still for discussion is the effect on gut health. People should stop wasting time on artificial sweeteners- they are not good nor bad, they are useful when you want something sweet but can’t afford extra calories. That’s it. Let’s all move on!
@@retwerts i know what he said. and i agree but already knew about this.
i WAS hoping for more news than year-old news on these sweeteners.
\and IF the only NEW questions are the effects upon the gut, some of that is already known, especially allulose.
but he did not provide any new gut/sweetener news so, again, this was not one of doc's better videos and feels very click-bait.
not something i want in a medical news source.
Black coffee is like a punishment
Nah, it is heaven. Once you acquire the taste, beer tastes amazing as well.
@@michaelyoon9355 I love beer and whiskey just can’t get used to black coffee
@@eyeinsee I despise the taste of alcohol, _especially_ whiskey, but black coffee I'm fine with. If you get use to drinking black coffee you start to see the quality of coffee in various places. Eg. McDonalds or Starbucks are bitter and acrid garbage, but Wafflehouse stuff tastes wonderful without bitterness. Though I feel the bitterness of cheapo coffee kinda helps wake me up. Either way I normally use caffeine pills since it's way cheaper mg/$ caffeine and you don't have to prepare them
@@nattyfatty6.0 I was actually thinking that, maybe its the type of coffee im drinking black thats bad because I know so many that enjoy black coffee and I just don’t get it
The best way to have coffee - unless you want a sweet milky drink with some coffee in it
This is why I just drink regular Coke 😀
Mexico went that route now they have a really bad obesity and diabetes problem
So sweet
Aspartame gives me mad shits, so no Diet Coke for me.
It’s probably the caffeine not the aspartame dude
@@retwerts I drink black coffee, and caffeinated teas on a daily basis with the occasional non-diet coke on the weekends. No issues there.
Cannot understand why Peter doesn't chew nearly 100% of his protein. Drinking it is disgusting.
Because some of us don’t have all day to eat and it’s convenient to get extra protein fast with as little extra calories as possible. What exactly is so complicated?