The J.B Bickerstaff hire also gives me more belief as hes handled a similar situation with Dmitch and Garland in Clevland could be the year things start to click for Cade and Ivey.
I agree he's good with guard s,both have defined roles with Bernie,Jaden been putting in the work with that shot and it shows, people forget he's been coached since the womb.
Iveys rep took the biggest hit from Montys antics last season. His role and playing time were never truly defined, and the pistons were a development hell last year as well. i think this year the stability and plan alone will help him take a mini leap, and the vets that actually want to be here and mentor a little bit will go a long way as well.
They had to deal with what the rockets delt with, with salas. Was hard for anyone to develop there without structure, which is why I think green is having a longer curve of development. Hopefully JB can help develop these guys.
He looks awesome in the regular season so far too. Different player from his first 2 seasons. He's confident on drives, good form from the 3, doesn't forcekickoffs, and he's no longer a negitave on defense
If the players and coach can strike a balance between Ivey and Cade actions, with Ivey providing rim pressure and hitting his catch and shoot jumpers while Cade does his perimeter creation and decent slashing, that's the foundation of a really good offense there, even with the theoretically awkward fit of two high volume guards
One of them are gonna have to get a better shot though, because neither rn are plus shooters and makes spacing really hard for them to create separate from each other
@@elitetv1735 I mean, if Ivey's jumper is real, that's a great sign. And I feel like with guys who can feed him, Cade should have a better c&s percentage
Yup. Ivey was scoring on 50/40/80 averages before the losing streak and benchings got out of control and Ivey and the rest of the team's confidence dipped.
Lol who cares, athletes are some of the most overpaid and overrated people on the planet. What they do is a luxury, not an essential right, sometimes it doesn't work out and they will live 😂
I have a signed Jaden Ivey jersey framed in my room, It was signed at a random Purdue football game that Jaden was speaking at I think in 2023. I met this man in person and in real life. He was the most humble and genuine young man I’ve ever met. I say this but I’m only (21). Jaden is a year older than me, regardless… This dude is the real deal. He is SPECIAL. It makes me sick knowing he isn’t getting the playing time he deserves. But this man is SPECIAL. he is a FREAK of athleticism it only can get utilized if the higher coaching staff utilizes him. Which Monty didn’t. I know Jaden will prosper one day eventually, God will put him into a position where he has no other option but Suceed. This man is the real deal. TRUST…. JADEN GENUINELY IS THAT GUY AND CAN BE BETTER THEN CUNNINGHAM. I PROMISE YOU. JADEN IS THE REAL DEAL. YOU BEST BELIVE.
I think Ivey is gonna have people asking if Cade is the true future of the franchise by the time this season ends. Theyre still gonna be ass, but I think he could have one of those early career jumps that other young athletic guards tend to experience
@@urbaindelva7869everyone with a brain… they barely improved from the trash team last year and Ivey always looks good in preseason and yall fall for it another season
One of the biggest things for Ivey was Fred Vinson coming into Detroit. It’s an underrated thing but a top tier shooting coach helping Ivey develop his shot is going to do wonders for him and the team as a whole
JB is probably the biggest thing for me. He seems to prioritize team Basketball A LOT better and getting them to buy in better as well. But Vinson’s work is huge. Ausar is out rn, but I’ve seen some footage of he and Vinson training that jumper. It looks a bit smoother, and I can tell he’s most likely been his focus all summer
This is the Ivey I saw in his rookie year. Some things needed to be cleaned up fs, but he showed great potential. That second year was crucial and it was sort of “wasted”.
I’d like for Cade to lean how to keep the defense honest with disguising the intention with his passes a bit more. He does it from time to time, but players of his archetype like Luka do this well. At 7:11, he looks at Ivey way too early when he should’ve held that help defender with his eyes until the last moment.
Kinda 180 disagree with the statement "As much as I like Cade, he doesn't do a great job of getting downhill and initiating contact at the rim and drawing double teams for his teammates". I actually think Cade is much better at this, but I sorta get it too. Ivey gets almost past his first man always, but settles super quick. Cade is better at forcing his way but doesn't quite have the finish timing and steps down. Either way no chance Ivey draws doubles more. I also think Ivey operates awesome off chaos and isn't very good decisions vs a set D.
Let's see what he does when he gets left on the perimeter guarding Book, or Franz, etc. I want to see him score on Jrue and White. Pre-season excites people who think they know about basketball. This MIGHT be Ivey's break-out season, but right now, you're just guessing. Weird how people always guess in their teams favor.
Ausar Thompson is the starting shooting guard of the future. Jaden Ivey's ideal role is a Jordan Clarkson type role. 6th man microwave. Him accepting that role is the problem.
Good stuff here Hoops, you hit the nail on the head saying they were robbed of their chemistry building. Year 1 bc of Cades injury and year 2 bc of Killian Hayes and Monty’s perceived disdain for Ivey.
Fw the video heavy and I think Ivey is gonna be a darkhorse MIP candidate. But Cade definitely brings rim pressure, it’s just that our spacing has prevented us from unleashing it until now
Cade’s rim pressure has definitely improved and I expect it to show a lot this year for sure, I just think Ivey’s natural athleticism gives him the opportunity to leverage his rim pressure more naturally
@@AlexHoops it’s definitely more natural and easier for Ivey to create rim pressure with his speed. I really think both of them will take a leap in efficiency and rim fg% in our much improved offense.
Nah son. He's been a terrific prospect and now being allowed to play and learn on the job. He's good. Again, this is why Monty Williams is an idiot. For real tho somewhere down the duke forgot how to coach
Bro he’s a 78 I think in my team on 2k25 and he be making his shots on that bih when I think it’s awful timing that’s when I knew this dude was good . And ngl this other dude named Isaiah joe .id personally do videos on them myself and I was cool like this UA-camr but . Nah I just keep comin back to your vids bro keep up the good work and I would consider doing videos on the Orlando magics just cause they roster only got better with Cole ant, and Jalen suggs
The Nets should make a move for Ivey, really good chance to buy low now and have him develop in a low pressure situation with a better fit than next to cade
Where you stated Cade doesn't get to the rim as much as you like, it's because he is good with the mid range shot. He knows when he has space to pull up and doesn't need to go to the rim as much. Cade doesn't use speed to get past his defender, but is more cunning with hesitations and stop and goes. This is what I think Ivy is doing more to, but Ivy will go to the rim more also. He has a good three level scoring ability, which is being showcased more. For them being able to be on the floor together, Ivy will give another good catch and shoot option when Cade gets past his first defender and help drops from the three point line. It will be good to see what happens this year with the addition of Tobias's scoring ability and if it helps to open up more for Ivy too.
@@scottwickett1273Tanking? They've been rebuilding for the last 6 years with almost no progress, at least team-wise. The front office hired some new management who added/re-signed 4 quality 3pt shooters to improve the spacing around their best player(s). They hired a new coach after their last one blatantly wasted a year where they could've shown some progress. Their front office wouldn't have made all of those decisions if they were trying to tank. And why would they tank NOW when they've been bottom feeders for the last 6 years? Who tanks after a 14-win season? That makes no sense.
@@urbaindelva7869 If they WEREN'T tanking, they would have addressed backup point guard and rim protection in some manner, and they haven't done either one of those things. They still don't have enough talent to ever become a competitive team, and the new GM seems to be aware of that fact. I'm just following the breadcrumbs here: they need to keep tanking specifically because everything they've done for the last six years (culminating in last year's 14-68 record) has failed disastrously!
Interesting thing to note: lot of youngsters coming into the leagues w/ some afro/dreads haircut. As soon as they get rid of it, they usually turn to another level of performance. Not cause hair amount impact their CoG at shooting, but youngsters rather become more of a mature persons.
i saw the same thing with bagley 1 year....he was tearing it up but once the season started he went back to ass. i think ivey still gonna be one of the best driving guards in the league
I've been telling you guys since before his draft y'all just don't realise how wrongly he was being used, as well as being a super young point guard in the near shittest team in history.
Wait, wut? No, those would not have been superior choices. (Weaver was in fact the very worst GM in the history of this sport, but not because of the Ausar pick!)
Predict Jaden Ivey’s stats for this year 👇
19pts, 3reb, 4.5ast, 1.5stl, 0.5blk
21.5pts 4reb 5ast 1stl .5blk
22 pt 4 rbs 6 asts
46/35/82
@@ryanruffer99615 blocks?
@@J_basketball23 .5 didn't put the 0
Finally somone who understands how valuable Ivey can be instead of these arm chair experts who wanted to trade him. Good analysis
We still don’t knows his true value this is just pre season it’s more like a small spark of his potential
This is the perfect time to trade him, they will have to pick between him or cade sooner or later and we all know cade isn’t going anywhere
@@calraymond7756 why can’t they play together
@@Justfrank_0 Because there are better options, by definition.
@@calraymond7756why they playing good together
As a Purdue fan, this makes me so happy. He’s my favorite boiler to watch of all time.
I absolutely hate Purdue basketball but man watching him and Carsen Edwards in college is something I'll never forget
The J.B Bickerstaff hire also gives me more belief as hes handled a similar situation with Dmitch and Garland in Clevland could be the year things start to click for Cade and Ivey.
I agree he's good with guard s,both have defined roles with Bernie,Jaden been putting in the work with that shot and it shows, people forget he's been coached since the womb.
Iveys rep took the biggest hit from Montys antics last season. His role and playing time were never truly defined, and the pistons were a development hell last year as well. i think this year the stability and plan alone will help him take a mini leap, and the vets that actually want to be here and mentor a little bit will go a long way as well.
No bro ausur took the biggest hit monty gave him blood clots he stressed him out so bad
They had to deal with what the rockets delt with, with salas. Was hard for anyone to develop there without structure, which is why I think green is having a longer curve of development. Hopefully JB can help develop these guys.
@elitetv1735 rhen you got guys like alp an cade who just get better no matter what
@@adamperry4216 😂😂😂😂
@@adamperry4216 Bro that's wild 😭 he gave him blood clots..
You got me dying
He looks awesome in the regular season so far too. Different player from his first 2 seasons. He's confident on drives, good form from the 3, doesn't forcekickoffs, and he's no longer a negitave on defense
If the players and coach can strike a balance between Ivey and Cade actions, with Ivey providing rim pressure and hitting his catch and shoot jumpers while Cade does his perimeter creation and decent slashing, that's the foundation of a really good offense there, even with the theoretically awkward fit of two high volume guards
🎯
@@AlexHoops
Just finished the video and realized I summarized it, I like the way you think, Mr Hoops
One of them are gonna have to get a better shot though, because neither rn are plus shooters and makes spacing really hard for them to create separate from each other
@@elitetv1735
I mean, if Ivey's jumper is real, that's a great sign. And I feel like with guys who can feed him, Cade should have a better c&s percentage
I am a HUGE fan of this dude since his days at Purdue. He’s gonna be a great player in time of the pistons are patient it’ll pay off
blame monty williams
Yup. Ivey was scoring on 50/40/80 averages before the losing streak and benchings got out of control and Ivey and the rest of the team's confidence dipped.
Monty's obsession with Killian Hayes set the team back lol
Benching him, what was he thinking, I think because of that since it humbled him,this will be his year
He'll be alright
Dude was a red flag from the introductory press conference
monty robbed the pistons of $70m and a year of their cores development.
Lol who cares, athletes are some of the most overpaid and overrated people on the planet. What they do is a luxury, not an essential right, sometimes it doesn't work out and they will live 😂
@@meh7348 Then why are you wasting your time typing this shit?
If they were smart they’d keep Monty and tank another season for Cooper Flagg. They won’t because they are not smart like in San Antonio or OKC.
HE IS A BEAST ! GREAT VIDEO !
I have a signed Jaden Ivey jersey framed in my room, It was signed at a random Purdue football game that Jaden was speaking at I think in 2023. I met this man in person and in real life. He was the most humble and genuine young man I’ve ever met. I say this but I’m only (21). Jaden is a year older than me, regardless… This dude is the real deal. He is SPECIAL. It makes me sick knowing he isn’t getting the playing time he deserves. But this man is SPECIAL. he is a FREAK of athleticism it only can get utilized if the higher coaching staff utilizes him. Which Monty didn’t. I know Jaden will prosper one day eventually, God will put him into a position where he has no other option but Suceed. This man is the real deal. TRUST…. JADEN GENUINELY IS THAT GUY AND CAN BE BETTER THEN CUNNINGHAM. I PROMISE YOU. JADEN IS THE REAL DEAL. YOU BEST BELIVE.
Got him on my fantasy team so I sure hope you're right and he impresses everyone this year
Monty should never get another high level coaching job again.
I think Ivey is gonna have people asking if Cade is the true future of the franchise by the time this season ends. Theyre still gonna be ass, but I think he could have one of those early career jumps that other young athletic guards tend to experience
Are they go be ass ass or BBL ass
They're going to be great so my problem is Duren --- illegal screen
@@Veritifiy They're not going to be great, and the problem with Duren is his terrible defense.
@@scottwickett1273Who says they're not gonna be great? Even then, they could be very good.
@@urbaindelva7869everyone with a brain… they barely improved from the trash team last year and Ivey always looks good in preseason and yall fall for it another season
God bless Jaden Ivey. God loves you and I do too. Blessings ❤
I agree! He's finishing! And that was a big problem the past couple years. He seems more confident and it's because he's been in that gym!
Awesome video Alex. Ivey gets way too much hate and i really hope him and Cade can work well together this year since I'm high on both
One of the biggest things for Ivey was Fred Vinson coming into Detroit. It’s an underrated thing but a top tier shooting coach helping Ivey develop his shot is going to do wonders for him and the team as a whole
Jb
JB is probably the biggest thing for me. He seems to prioritize team Basketball A LOT better and getting them to buy in better as well. But Vinson’s work is huge. Ausar is out rn, but I’ve seen some footage of he and Vinson training that jumper. It looks a bit smoother, and I can tell he’s most likely been his focus all summer
This is the Ivey I saw in his rookie year. Some things needed to be cleaned up fs, but he showed great potential. That second year was crucial and it was sort of “wasted”.
Great breakdown thanks!
I knew that ivey was going to breakout when i saw just how much his jumper got smoother
Happy I drafted this guy in the 11th round
I’d like for Cade to lean how to keep the defense honest with disguising the intention with his passes a bit more. He does it from time to time, but players of his archetype like Luka do this well. At 7:11, he looks at Ivey way too early when he should’ve held that help defender with his eyes until the last moment.
It’s look we got a coach that understands how to win in the NBA not the NBA in 2010 but the current NBA.
Great start
Kinda 180 disagree with the statement "As much as I like Cade, he doesn't do a great job of getting downhill and initiating contact at the rim and drawing double teams for his teammates". I actually think Cade is much better at this, but I sorta get it too. Ivey gets almost past his first man always, but settles super quick. Cade is better at forcing his way but doesn't quite have the finish timing and steps down. Either way no chance Ivey draws doubles more. I also think Ivey operates awesome off chaos and isn't very good decisions vs a set D.
Exited to see new coach doing this thing..jb did a good job with cavs
Let's see what he does when he gets left on the perimeter guarding Book, or Franz, etc.
I want to see him score on Jrue and White.
Pre-season excites people who think they know about basketball.
This MIGHT be Ivey's break-out season, but right now, you're just guessing.
Weird how people always guess in their teams favor.
Great Video Alex! ❤
Ivey been cold!!! Idk what that coach last year was doing with him, but this is no new player!!!
Great vid! Prediction: 20 / 5 / 4
Ausar Thompson is the starting shooting guard of the future. Jaden Ivey's ideal role is a Jordan Clarkson type role. 6th man microwave. Him accepting that role is the problem.
Yes, all of this is true.
A shooting guard who shoots under 30% from 3
@@ynk-ike I mean, ideally not forever!
sick viddeo
Good stuff here Hoops, you hit the nail on the head saying they were robbed of their chemistry building. Year 1 bc of Cades injury and year 2 bc of Killian Hayes and Monty’s perceived disdain for Ivey.
Fw the video heavy and I think Ivey is gonna be a darkhorse MIP candidate. But Cade definitely brings rim pressure, it’s just that our spacing has prevented us from unleashing it until now
Cade’s rim pressure has definitely improved and I expect it to show a lot this year for sure, I just think Ivey’s natural athleticism gives him the opportunity to leverage his rim pressure more naturally
@@AlexHoops it’s definitely more natural and easier for Ivey to create rim pressure with his speed. I really think both of them will take a leap in efficiency and rim fg% in our much improved offense.
Nah son. He's been a terrific prospect and now being allowed to play and learn on the job. He's good. Again, this is why Monty Williams is an idiot. For real tho somewhere down the duke forgot how to coach
I’ll always hate Monty
Bro he’s a 78 I think in my team on 2k25 and he be making his shots on that bih when I think it’s awful timing that’s when I knew this dude was good . And ngl this other dude named Isaiah joe .id personally do videos on them myself and I was cool like this UA-camr but . Nah I just keep comin back to your vids bro keep up the good work and I would consider doing videos on the Orlando magics just cause they roster only got better with Cole ant, and Jalen suggs
Ivey looks more comfortable this preseason, and his shot looks nice
If this isn't a fluke, then damn im excited to see his progression
Monty was forcibly decreasing his time on the floor which hurt his development
it's just preseason and JB has already drawn more efficient plays for them
At this point they have to start winning games or at least looking competitive right?
W VIDEO!!!
idk looks the same to me so far in the regular season
Bro changed the thumbnail
Monty definitely ruined his confidence. He had a great rookie season, only to get benched
The Nets should make a move for Ivey, really good chance to buy low now and have him develop in a low pressure situation with a better fit than next to cade
Lol is this a bot? lmao
@@patrickwickett1787 No this is a human, I promise.
Good bench player on a 13th seed
Yep!
Monty Williams did the worst coaching job I have ever seen in my 44. Years as an NBA fan
Cade is holding him back
How?
wtf I gotta get off this comment sections, foolishness
Where you stated Cade doesn't get to the rim as much as you like, it's because he is good with the mid range shot. He knows when he has space to pull up and doesn't need to go to the rim as much. Cade doesn't use speed to get past his defender, but is more cunning with hesitations and stop and goes.
This is what I think Ivy is doing more to, but Ivy will go to the rim more also. He has a good three level scoring ability, which is being showcased more.
For them being able to be on the floor together, Ivy will give another good catch and shoot option when Cade gets past his first defender and help drops from the three point line. It will be good to see what happens this year with the addition of Tobias's scoring ability and if it helps to open up more for Ivy too.
Ivey started to look like young buck
I could hear you saying the title before clicking in the thumbnail 😂
Beef stew coming off bench,pure genius
glad i never sold my poison ivey stocks. been a fan since purdue and it hurt me seeing how monty used him
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
A cool 18 ppg 4.5 rpg and 5.5 apg on 46/36/83 shooting and A PISTONS PLAYOFF BERTH 😤
I think he can get 20 ppg if they get him downhill alot as a primary scorer I think his 20 will look easier than Cade's.
They're not making the playoffs: it's still a very bad roster, and they're probably tanking.
@@scottwickett1273Tanking? They've been rebuilding for the last 6 years with almost no progress, at least team-wise. The front office hired some new management who added/re-signed 4 quality 3pt shooters to improve the spacing around their best player(s). They hired a new coach after their last one blatantly wasted a year where they could've shown some progress. Their front office wouldn't have made all of those decisions if they were trying to tank. And why would they tank NOW when they've been bottom feeders for the last 6 years? Who tanks after a 14-win season? That makes no sense.
@@urbaindelva7869 If they WEREN'T tanking, they would have addressed backup point guard and rim protection in some manner, and they haven't done either one of those things.
They still don't have enough talent to ever become a competitive team, and the new GM seems to be aware of that fact.
I'm just following the breadcrumbs here: they need to keep tanking specifically because everything they've done for the last six years (culminating in last year's 14-68 record) has failed disastrously!
Interesting thing to note: lot of youngsters coming into the leagues w/ some afro/dreads haircut.
As soon as they get rid of it, they usually turn to another level of performance. Not cause hair amount impact their CoG at shooting, but youngsters rather become more of a mature persons.
bro what lmao
Dude gonna look like a scrub for another season lol
its preseason
i saw the same thing with bagley 1 year....he was tearing it up but once the season started he went back to ass. i think ivey still gonna be one of the best driving guards in the league
He was always solid it was Killian Hayes that dragged this team so far downhill the last few years
Cutie patootie
Earlyyyyy gannnng
Jaden Ivey is a point guard
No, he's not.
Bro it’s the preseason
reminds me of donovan mitchell
Except for the fact that Mitchell is good, right?
Idk what anyone says, they should be building around Ivey, Duren and Thompson
Monty was actively tryna stunt his progression smh, comeback season I'm predicting MIP - 23 PPG
I swear u did this last year w him lol
My last video on Jaden Ivey was in November of 2022
I've been telling you guys since before his draft y'all just don't realise how wrongly he was being used, as well as being a super young point guard in the near shittest team in history.
He's not a point guard.
If we had taken Whitmore and Edey we'd be flying our gms suck
Wait, wut? No, those would not have been superior choices.
(Weaver was in fact the very worst GM in the history of this sport, but not because of the Ausar pick!)
first
Still not the Amen Thompson vid babe, go back to sleep
Who?
We have reached the point where NBA preseason is just as overrated as the NFL preseason😂😂😂